Sawbones: A Marital Tour of Misguided Medicine - Sawbones: Tesla Medbed

Episode Date: November 26, 2024

Somehow the Tesla medical bed, or Tesla Biohealing Wellness Hotel and Resort is not related to Elon Musk. It is also not really related to actual medical care. Dr. Sydnee and Justin talk about another... wellness product and what this harnesser of biphoton energy is supposed to do.Music: "Medicines" by The Taxpayers https://taxpayers.bandcamp.com/

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Sawbones is a show about medical history and nothing the hosts say should be taken as medical advice or opinion. It's for fun. Can't you just have fun for an hour and not try to diagnose your mystery boil? We think you've earned it. Just sit back, relax, and enjoy a moment of distraction from that weird growth. You're worth it. All right. This one is about some books. One, two, one, two, three, and welcome to Sawbones, a marital tour of misguided medicine. I'm your co-host Justin McElroy. And I'm Sydney McElroy. That's it. That's it? That's a whole show. That was all we had in us.
Starting point is 00:01:06 No it wasn't. We're just getting started. If it wasn't so cold in your office. Oh poor. Honey, can I tell you something? Honestly, I left my phone upstairs so I can adjust the temperature. But I, for you, I'm not going to do it. I'm going to do it.
Starting point is 00:01:14 I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it.
Starting point is 00:01:22 I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. It wasn't so cold in your office. Honey, can I tell you something? Honestly, I left my phone upstairs so I can adjust the temperature, but for you, for my wife, I'm gonna try to log into the web browser interface of our thermostat.
Starting point is 00:01:37 You can't turn on the heat because then it makes a noise, and I am so dedicated to the quality of our show for our listeners that I will huddle in my sweatshirt. Kidding aside, they'll remind me, I'll get the ceramic heater and bring it down here. I know, and it's probably, here's the truth, it's probably like 74 degrees in here. Oh, no, no, no, I should have said for the listener,
Starting point is 00:01:58 it's perfectly comfortable. Absolutely, you can't even, it's the perfect temperature for anybody. On earth, we would be like, oh, comfortable in here. Except me. Except for old four layer sin. If you can find her on the blankets, you'll hear her complaining about how cold it is. Justin, I got an email from a couple of our listeners. As in I got one email from two people.
Starting point is 00:02:25 So thank you ahead of time, Fega and Mazel for this email. And it was titled, oh, it was so exciting, the subject line of this email, Tesla MedBeds. And I got so excited because I thought, Wow. Tesla MedBeds.
Starting point is 00:02:43 That was quick. Could we be so lucky? Could there be a fake medicine thing, a sham product, medical product, that is tied to Elon Musk? Is that possible? Now, listener, we kind of used a version of this on you, right, because you downloaded the episode really quick
Starting point is 00:03:08 because you want to find out too, right? So you're in that same liminal space as Sid was. And I thought like, this will be great for everyone because then we can all laugh at this ridiculousness together and then we'll feel angry about it and then we'll feel sad. But maybe then we'll feel angry about it. And then we'll feel sad. But maybe then we'll feel angry again. And I was so excited to go on this journey together,
Starting point is 00:03:34 Justin, you and I, and then with our listeners about what has the creator of the Cybertruck wrought upon us next. But I am going to tell you right now that Tesla med beds have nothing to do with Tesla the car company. We already got your download, it's too late. We gotcha.
Starting point is 00:03:58 I've read a bunch of articles about this. I'm gonna tell you what these are and why, it's still hilarious. But the thing about Tesla BioHealing, Inc. is that very frequently in news articles, when they're writing about Tesla BioHealing, Inc., they will put immediately following that, not related to the car company.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Which I feel like, are they, I wanna reach out and say, are you trying to help them like do the work for, like is this, who mandated this? It almost feels intentional. Like did the, when they interviewed them, were they like, now listen, every time you name our company in your news article, you do need to contractually,
Starting point is 00:04:37 we do need to put not related to the car company afterwards or we will get in trouble. And how is there another Tesla? How has Tesla allowed there is there another Tesla? How has Tesla allowed there to be another Tesla? Well, somebody's name, right? Maybe it's because you can't trademark somebody's name. I do think it says something about both Mr. Mosca
Starting point is 00:04:54 and his business that the articles have to specify, like come right out and say, there's a part of you that may think that this is a Tesla thing, but it's a different Tesla. Like they have to specify, it's close enough to believable, where you're like, yeah, that tracks. It could be that. Like, if there was a company called Burger King Waterslides, they wouldn't have to come out and say, it's not the burger restaurant. Like, yeah, we know. It's Waterslides. Sure, sure. No, that makes total sense.
Starting point is 00:05:21 But like, when I saw TeslaMed, and can I tell you as I started researching this and reading the articles, because our listeners helpfully linked me to a few to get me started, I was, I was reading them, I thought it was Tesla. I, in my head, I assumed, like I hadn't read anything to confirm that.
Starting point is 00:05:40 I just thought, well, yeah, of course, of course, of course. But then it is not. So this has nothing to do with Tesla, the car company. If you are somebody who understands the law better than me, I would, I'd love to know why this is happening. I feel like a company as large as Tesla and someone with, I mean, unchecked power, it, I assume like Elon Musk would have stopped this. So I don't know. It feels wild to me.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Maybe the clock's ticking. Maybe, listen, I have no intention of. Whoever wins, we lose. I don't wanna help either of these companies. Justin, here's what I want you to do. I want you to go to Pittsburgh. All right, see ya. Well, not yet.
Starting point is 00:06:20 Hold on, no. We gotta finish the podcast first. Okay. Okay. But here's what you're gonna do. You're gonna go to Pittsburgh. Oh man, I'm really paying for standing up so suddenly. I feel like this is what it's like to get directions in Appalachia.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Okay, here's what you're gonna do. You're gonna go to Pittsburgh, okay? Then you're gonna turn and you're gonna head 45 minutes up north, okay? Yeah, I did say minutes. I'm not gonna give it to you in miles. This is Appalachia. We give it to you in minutes, okay?
Starting point is 00:06:43 Or hours. Or stoplights. Or stoplights. It's a time thing. It's not gonna give it to you in miles. This is Appalachia. We give it to you in minutes, okay? Or hours. Or stoplights. Or stoplights. It's a time thing. It's not gonna be a miles thing. We don't know. And then you're gonna arrive in Butler, Pennsylvania, and you're gonna see an old building
Starting point is 00:06:54 that looks like a roadside motel, and there's a good reason for that. It was indeed a Holiday Inn roadside motel. But now it isn't. It is the Tesla Wellness Hotel and MedBed Center. Justin, it made me think, we once stayed at a wellness hotel. Do you remember this? Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Accidentally. Accidentally. Can I just, I mean, if you didn't already know this about us, it was accidental. It was accidental, yeah. We were in town for Lynn's birthday party and we booked ourselves into a wellness spa. What was it called?
Starting point is 00:07:28 Equinox, something like that? I don't even know. I don't remember. I don't remember what it was called. But I mean, it looked pretty. It was a nice hotel. We thought we were giving ourselves a nice experience. And it was, I'm not gonna sit here and say it wasn't.
Starting point is 00:07:39 It was also not our first choice. I had booked for the wrong night. Remember, we had to do like hotels tonight or something to see what was available. So we stayed there and it was perfectly nice, but they did have like an infrared sauna and a cryo room you could pay for. And then in your room, they were like,
Starting point is 00:07:56 I mean, things that like, I don't think of as weird wellness stuff. Like there was a yoga mat, that's nice. That's pleasant. But then, and like a foam roller, but then also some oils or something and some supplements that you could purchase that's pleasant, you know. But then, and like a foam roller, but then also some oils or something and some supplements that you could purchase from your room if you wanted.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Yeah, the supplements were fun, yeah. This was an accident. We did not know that we had, the duo behind Sawbones was staying in a wellness hotel. But if you stay at this wellness hotel, you know, because it's right there in the title. You can rent rooms nightly, so it is a know, because it's right there in the title, you can rent rooms nightly. So it is a hotel, but it's also a wellness center.
Starting point is 00:08:28 So I guess you can stay more if you want to. But that's like, that's, I mean, lots of places are like the Great Wolf Lodge, it's like that, you know, it's a hotel, but it's also a water slide park and not a Burger King. Can you imagine if you got a room at the Great Wolf Lodge, not knowing, like just thinking it was a hotel? Like what a weird name for for a hotel. Whatever. I'm sure tired ready for a good night's sleep What the arcades open 24 hours a day? Why does the entire building smell like pizza?
Starting point is 00:08:54 Why does every inch of this building the the the showers smell like pizza? Everything smells like pizza. I love Great Wolf Lodge So okay these rooms in the in the Tesla Wellness Hotel and med bed center Everything smells like pizza. Everything smells like pizza. I love Great Wolf Lodge. So, okay, these rooms in the Tesla Wellness Hotel and MedBed Center, this is not the only one of these, there are others. If you're thinking like, well, there's another, yeah, I know, I know, we'll get there.
Starting point is 00:09:14 So these rooms come with bio-healers. Now what is a bio-healer? It's like a, it's a can. It's a small canister. I hate this crap. Bio-healer, healer, bio. It's just saying healer. I know.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Biohealing is nonsense. It's not even good phlegm flammary. You know what I mean? It's like threadbare. There's so much of that in this. There's so much of that. Great, keep it coming. Can I say that as I was reading through this,
Starting point is 00:09:44 the word healing does a lot of work for a lot of these fake medical kind of companies. I think my guess is that you can get away with saying healing when you can't say treat or cure. Okay. So because those specifically, there are regulations. If you try to say treat or cure, the FDA will jump on you.
Starting point is 00:10:01 See, why does the FDA, I feel like treat is, does not imply an effect. Well, it does. No, I think there is, legally, treat does imply an effect. Now, how did our language evolve to think treat is an effect, but heal isn't? I'm talking semantics, but yeah, I appreciate you.
Starting point is 00:10:20 I think a lawyer would just tell you, because it does, because we have decided, legally, that it does. So, these canisters exude What is called by by the company? life force energy, okay, uh-huh or technically Scientifically, these are bio photons now I do want I think it's bad in a podcast to tell people to pause your
Starting point is 00:10:42 Podcast and go look at a website and maybe if you're like me and your brain gets itchy, if you're not doing at least two things, you could do this at the same time. Unless it's driving, I do wanna make that super clear. Do not, please don't look at your phone or another computer while you're driving. But if you can, I really want you to look at the website for the Tesla Bio healing wellness hotel and resort
Starting point is 00:11:05 Because what you will notice I think this is one of my favorite parts of it is it is I didn't tell you the whole title Of it. It's the Tesla bio healing wellness hotel and resort Ramada by Wyndham nice. It is a lot of folks Ramada that's good. That's how that's a name you can trust. Which also I wanna call Ramada and say, this you, y'all are into that? This is your thing? Like, this is good? This is a Ramada.
Starting point is 00:11:33 So it's all the amenities you can expect from a Ramada. Yeah, I like that they definitely still have the smoking gazebo outside, the legally mandated smoking gazebo that every Ramada must have. Yes, they're right there. And, and then there's a geocache at the honey to mom, by the way, if you're ever up around the smoking gazebo, you remember that said we, we, a quick sidebar, we, we,
Starting point is 00:11:56 during COVID, there was a, the peak of COVID, I should say there was a, we did a lot of geocaching because it was a very safe way to get out in the world. But we, there was a geocache at it was a very safe way to get out in the world. But we, there was a geocache at the Cirque de Gazebo at the Ramada up at the mall. And that we stood, there was people out there smoking. We stood just kind of like watching people smoke, debating, like, I don't think we could just roll up
Starting point is 00:12:17 to get our geocache while people are smoking. I think we're gonna have to wait. We should wait. And then we were trying to keep our six feet. Yeah, right. The combo of the two. Yeah. So anyway, it is a Ramada with all of the amenities
Starting point is 00:12:30 of Ramada, I mean, it says right there, free breakfast. You got free wifi. It's got a pool. But then also you have special canisters in every room that emit life force energy and will help your body heal itself. Now you've gone from exude to emit. First of all.
Starting point is 00:12:45 I don't know. It's so incredible that you have all these different words of things, gushing out of things just on hand. So the company, let me give you a little bit of context for what, how did we get here? How is there a Romano? Romano was a family of hoteliers. No, no, no, no, no. No, okay. Not, listen. Okay. How is there a Ramada? Ramada was a family of hoteliers.
Starting point is 00:13:05 No, no, no, no, no. Listen, that man, that is your kind of thing, isn't it? Knowing the history of Ramada. Oh, honey, I remember I was at the last time I was at a double tree, there was like a sign about why it's called the double tree and like the ranch that it's named after and all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:13:23 Oh man, I think that that stuff is, is fascinating. I know you do love. I know. So what's happening here? Tesla bio healing Inc was, is a company that was founded by Dr. James Liu. I think it was within the last four or five years. It's really hard to find a lot of great history on this company or on its founder because there's some legal
Starting point is 00:13:54 issues in the past. I'm not sure, but it was created to treat and cure chronic diseases in an innovative way. And when I say treat and cure, I of course don't mean treat and cure because right there, a classic switcheroo. Yes, right there on the website for Tesla Biohealing, Inc, which you can go explore if you so choose, Tesla Biohealing does not provide any medical advice. Our products, FDA registered Tesla-healing OTC, over-the-counter medical devices and services are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease or medical condition.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Please consult your own healthcare provider if you have any medical issues. But like all of these scam artists, they put that and then they proceed to sell you a variety of products. Now that that's, honey, this is like, it's the exact same thing you see
Starting point is 00:14:47 on Haunted Doll listings, right? You have this incredible tapestry of a story about, you know, all the ways that the spirit has appeared to the person. And then the last paragraph is always, eBay says that I have to tell you that this whole thing I just told you was for jokes, but yeah, you and I both though, but it was all a lie. I have to tell you that this whole thing I just told you was for jokes, but yeah, you and I both though, but it was all a lie.
Starting point is 00:15:07 I have to tell you, I was lying about that. Wink. Wink. Yeah, well, and that's the thing is you are allowed to list a bunch of diseases on your website. You can't say that you are treating and curing them, but you can say that this is a med bed center, that these are healing devices,
Starting point is 00:15:26 and then you can list a number of conditions that people who have used them might also have. So the implication- You, I don't know, you connect the dots. What do you think? I'm just laying the pieces out here. And I think that it's, I mean, I guess part of that would be based in sort of a caveat emptor kind of idea.
Starting point is 00:15:48 It's on you if you're gonna spend your money in a bad way, I guess too bad. But I think the problem is as always, when it comes to quote unquote wellness products, is that they are preying on people and specifically they talk about it with either chronic diseases that are difficult to manage and maybe we don't have a lot of great tools for,
Starting point is 00:16:07 or things that are incurable currently. And so people who have this diagnosis or family members of these people may feel very desperate and may engage with something that typically they would be too rational or too logical to engage with. Right, they're vulnerable. They're depending on that. They're depending on that. They're depending on you being so vulnerable and scared
Starting point is 00:16:28 that you'll put those dots together for yourself and try it out. So let me tell you about what, first I'm gonna tell you what the science, the quote unquote, these are air quotes, science behind it. So the products harness bio-photon energy. That means that, and this is, so going back to like 1920, we found that living things, living cells,
Starting point is 00:16:53 can emit small particles of light energy photons. Right, that's the source of all magic. We all know this, it's mana. Sure, you know what? I feel like that will be called upon in one of these books I'm reading at some point, all of my fairy sex books. So anyway, there are biophotons.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Now the implication of that, I mean, we don't really, in actual medical science, we are not trying to harness your biophotons to do anything. Just because something exists doesn't mean it has value in medicine in any way. But that is exactly what they are trying to do is use this bio photon energy that is being released by these canisters
Starting point is 00:17:38 and then there are other products as well and help your own living cells, which also emit bio photons, cure themselves. Yeah, okay. So it's creating this energy field that will fix you. Easy, yeah. But it won't, we can't say fix, it will-
Starting point is 00:17:55 Treat. We can't say treat. Oh. It will- Heal. Help. Heal, I don't know, one of these. So your body's gonna fix itself,
Starting point is 00:18:03 but this is just going to create the energy field that allows you to do that or the guy in charge of the Ramada James Millen who's not all Ramada is just this Ramada James Millen Who's a chiropractor and the Butler facilities clinical team leader says? Life-force energy is the body's ability of innate intelligence to make changes or repair itself. Don't try to parse it, it's impossible. If you go to the website, here's how they explain it. The energy field generated by our devices is the same biophoton energy that any human body
Starting point is 00:18:35 or living being naturally generates and emits, and we've harnessed this power using natural pre-activated materials through a proprietary process rooted in a comprehensive understanding of biology, physics, and chemistry. These devices effectively recreate Earth's invigorating and vitalistic energy within our environment, offering a compelling and holistic approach to optimum health and well-being."
Starting point is 00:18:52 Can I ask you a question? Are chiropractors at a point like applied kinesiology where the ones who are actually doing anything need to change the name of what they do, so it's not the same as the rest of it. I think that, and I'm going to be real careful here because I live, I'm a doctor, so I live in a glass house. Sure. Right. But I do think- That's because it's very pricey. So you see, only doctors can afford these elegant glass houses. I think that there is this idea that certain professionals are so professional that they can all regulate themselves and we don't have to We don't have to watch them too closely because certainly they will call out
Starting point is 00:19:40 the bad actors within their community and I would say that, yes, the chiropractic community would do well to be very vocal about guys like this guy who is, I mean, I don't know what that has to do with chiropractics. And I certainly don't know what that has to do with science or medicine. And if he were saying, I am a doctor of medicine
Starting point is 00:20:03 and this is something that we believe, I would want to vocally say, no, we do not. That is not a thing we believe. This is not a thing. Y'all gotta get your house in order, all right? No, he does not speak for any of us. And you know, like I say that, I am not looking for press releases
Starting point is 00:20:19 from whatever the National Society of Chiropractors is called. They may have, they made him, honey, they may have done this. Right? Like they may be doing this. But, honey, they may have done this, right? They may be doing this. But it's not just for this one cat, right? Like I'm not just saying this one cat needs to go get picked up by the chiropractors. I'm gonna get emails for this,
Starting point is 00:20:34 but I think you all know this chiropractors, there's a lot of quackery among chiropractors, there is. And I'm not saying every single, certainly. There's a lot of quackery among doctors. We talk about it on this show constantly. I'm just, yeah. So, but yeah, I do think it's important that we call out our own profession
Starting point is 00:20:51 when we're doing something wrong. Which is why I repeatedly say the American healthcare system is a disaster and needs to be completely rebuilt. Not in the way it's about to be destroyed, but in a good way that is in service to humanity. So Justin, what is in these canisters? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:21:09 I'm going to tell you, but first I'm going to make you go to the billing department with me. Let's go! The medicines, the medicines, that escalate my cough for the mouth. Okay, Sydney, the secret of the ooze. I'm ready. What could be in these cans? And if you like, look, you can look at a picture of them on the Tesla. If you go to the website, they've got all their products and like right now, all their
Starting point is 00:21:37 products have little red bows on them because I guess the holidays. Love that. So what is in this can it's a mix This is a quote a mix of fine naturally active stones and activated fine metal grout sands and proprietary Polymers that are manufactured with a special technology that is can you I'm sorry one more time It's a really good of fine naturally active stones and activated fine metal grout, sands, and proprietary polymers that are manufactured with a special technology. All right. It's like rocks and dirt and some metal.
Starting point is 00:22:18 One person who bought it, I know, gave a bad review and said, this is just a can of concrete. I hate it. So, no, I don't, I don't, I don't know. Special polymers. I don't know if it, I don't know. Listen, that concrete is not my area of expertise. I don't know if this is indeed how you make concrete, but maybe this is a similar process to making concrete.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Anyway, that's what's in the cans that they put under your bed in the motel. So basically if you go stay at the wellness Ramada, the Tesla Wellness Ramada, whatever, you know, that place in Butler. And I'm sorry, if you live in Butler, this is no shade on you. I'm sure you feel very frustrated
Starting point is 00:23:02 by the presence of this ramada. In the motel, they just put these under your bed and you can sleep on the bed and then they're emitting the energy in the room and so you're great. They also have some in the pool. I found like a news article where they had a picture of someone swimming in the pool
Starting point is 00:23:18 and they're all these big like plastic, because I guess they didn't wanna put metal because it would rust. So they're like plastic jugs that are like sitting at the bottom of the pool, I assume also full of the concrete-esque mixture. And then you swim in the bio energy, the life energy. A night stay is gonna cost you like 300 bucks.
Starting point is 00:23:43 Although when I looked at the web, that's what they say, but when you look at the website, they've got deals right now, so you might be able to get in for like half that. Wow, nice. Okay, cool. And can I say, I'm talking about this, this facility has gotten a lot of press,
Starting point is 00:23:56 so it's really easy to read some details about it. There are other wellness resorts, hotels, across the country, not a ton, but there's more than one. And each one offers slightly different things. So like this one, you sleep on the beds and you get the energy and there's a pool. There are others that have specific like spa areas where you go in a room and get a treatment
Starting point is 00:24:16 as opposed to just sleeping on the bed. Or like they have pet facilities if you wanna treat your pet with life energy. All right. Then you can do that too. So there are different things on offer at different facilities. facilities if you wanna treat your pet with life energy. All right. Then you can do that too. So there are different things on offer at different facilities.
Starting point is 00:24:29 But, and I'm sure some are more expensive depending on where you live too, right? Like different areas of the country. But let's say you wanna own one. Why just one night? It's too powerful. You can't have it underneath you. You get overwhelmed.
Starting point is 00:24:43 No, you can own one, honey. You just buy them off the website. So the small, so the adult size canister for adult help, healing, whatever, is 599, as in $599. Let me be very clear. I know it sounds like a can of rocks and dirt would only be $5.99. That is not what I mean.
Starting point is 00:25:04 You mean $599. $599. For the adult size, that's like a 2.2 pound can. Okay. But if that's expensive, maybe you just wanna treat your dog. The pet one is gonna cost you $499. It's slightly smaller.
Starting point is 00:25:20 It's like a 1.8 pound can. And then, let's say that you wanna treat your kid. Now that's your cheapest model. Yes, that is right. Why? It is cheaper to heal your child than your pet. Smaller can. 399 for the 1.2 pound kid can.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Imagine getting bombarded with that kind of energy from such a young age, it's fantastic. And you just put these little cans under your bed. Or I guess maybe if you're like working all day, you could probably like put it under your chair. Like right now you could have one under your chair and you could just be absorbing life force energy all day long.
Starting point is 00:25:57 Now they do have bigger ones. So these are the little, like I said, these are just the little guys. They have big cans if you want a real big one, and those are really gonna cost you. So a 28 pound canister. Oh wow. Which also is like, they have a number on the website,
Starting point is 00:26:12 it's like 100 times stronger, so that's why you would pay more, right? Is $11,000. Wow. But, sometimes they offer a twofer, so you can get two for 20,000. Why do I need two of them? Cause then it's 200 times stronger.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Whoa, wait, wait. Here's what I think. As long as there's no numbers higher than two, I should be okay. I think what you're trying to decide is like, do you just wanna put this under your bed or do you want to, I don't know, like dig into your foundation
Starting point is 00:26:42 and put a bunch of these under your house? I mean, it's a question your house. You know someone would. Do you want one port with one modem that you use to call prodigy or do you want like eight gig Wi-Fi booming through your house? Like obviously if you're gonna go to town, you might as well go into Lincoln.
Starting point is 00:26:58 Get the big cans. Get the big cans. But maybe you don't want cans. Okay. Maybe you want a box. A box? Yeah. Because. Flexible want a box. A box? Yeah. Flexible.
Starting point is 00:27:06 Because after they released the cans and they came out with boxes. Yeah. And the boxes. Changed everything though. Are caused the bio-photonizer plus, which is $2,490 or the bio-photonizer alpha, which is $4,950. And the advantage of the box is that depending the Botanizer Alpha, which is $4,950.
Starting point is 00:27:25 And the advantage of the box is that depending on which side of the box you have pointed at your head, it's different amounts of energy. So like the, like, I mean, it's a rectangular box, right? You're picturing that like a shoe box. If you've got the broadest side facing you, that's the most, but the least concentrated energy. So then as you go to the two smaller sides, right?
Starting point is 00:27:48 So you've got the edge that's long and thinner, and then the smallest edge on each end of the box, that's the most concentrated beam of life force energy you're gonna absorb. Okay. So it gives you options. You don't get an option with the can, you get an option with the box.
Starting point is 00:28:02 They also have a bio photon infused eye mask for $299, which they have a whole list of things it'll do for you. And one of them is improve your self-esteem. Okay. So I don't know. I mean, you do like to sleep with an eye mask. I do like to sleep with an eye mask, but I don't know how it would impact my self-esteem
Starting point is 00:28:21 to spend $300 on an eye mask. I think it would already be pretty low at that point. They also have a biophoton-infused pillow for $495, and it comes with fluff instructions. That's gonna be a pass for me. I already found my pillow. I know. I had a moment as I was reading about the pillow where I thought-
Starting point is 00:28:36 Not my pillow. I cannot, no. Well, no. Similar energy in this whole thing. But I had a moment of fear, Justin, as I was reading about their special pillow, because I know you're on this lifelong quest for the perfect pillow.
Starting point is 00:28:51 I used to be, I used to be, not anymore. The pillow queue is- I know, but I get nervous if I start describing a great pillow to you that you're gonna start, you might be vulnerable. That search is done, I've moved on to blankets. It's a new thing. And the most comfortable wrist braces
Starting point is 00:29:06 for carpal tunnel syndrome. They don't sell any wrist braces or blankets that I found, but now that we've said it, I feel like it's gonna happen. And of course, energize, bio-healing, energize spring water. Of course they have to sell water. Everybody who is making a fake wellness anything is gonna wanna sell you a bottle of water
Starting point is 00:29:25 that costs too much for a bottle of water, right? Everybody's gonna do that. This one is sourced from the foothills of the Appalachian mountains. It's local water. Now listen, it comes from some sort of reservoir. I'm sure that it's fine for drinking. I'm not questioning whether or not the water is dangerous,
Starting point is 00:29:46 but I'm just gonna tell you, as somebody who grew up here in Appalachia, and as somebody who knows very well the history of the coal mining industry here, and as somebody who did a science fair project on acid mine drainage that did win, saying that your water comes from the Appalachian mountains isn't always as clear a cut of a positive as you think it is.
Starting point is 00:30:08 So anyway, this one is bottled and sold to you for only $150 for a 24 pack. Yeah. Wow. They have financing options, so don't worry. Oh, thank goodness. Don't worry. Now, the thing that stands out the most
Starting point is 00:30:23 when you look up Dr. James Lew or Tesla Biohealing Inc. is all the letters he's gotten from the FTC and the FDA. A lot of disagreements there, I think. Yeah, that's actually, it's interesting when you try to Google, just like look up Tesla Biohealing Inc. Those are the first kinds of things you get are like these letters of warning and there was a there's a court case that came up against the facility in Delaware. There's a facility in Delaware too. And I haven't I didn't read all of the specifics.
Starting point is 00:30:54 But obviously, and I don't need to because there are claims implicit to this that are not backed by any sort of science. So it appears that Dr. Lew at one point was selling an asthma treatment device. I think it was advertised as a treatment device called the Asthma Care Kit. And this was under a previous company called Dr. Natural Healing, Inc. And the Asthma Care Kit,
Starting point is 00:31:23 and this is from the letter from the FTC that he got. I could not find any trace. I have like tried to find a picture of this or something to tell me what does this look like. It's been like scrubbed from the internet. But the asthma care kit consists of a nasal irrigation device and homeopathic spray that purport to prevent or reduce the occurrence of asthma attacks as well as alleviate or reduce
Starting point is 00:31:45 the severity of asthma symptoms, including minor shortness of breath, wheezing or tightness in the chest. So he made these claims, they were false, because it was a, I mean, it sounds like a neti pot, or no, a nasal irrigation device, that would be like those, you know, those sinus, instead of a neti pot where you're just sort of pouring
Starting point is 00:32:03 the water in, it'd be those things where you can spray, yeah. Irrigate your sinuses and then a homeopathic spray and we know homeopathy isn't real, so. Who wouldn't do these things? We had to stop making these claims and then the FTC noted in their letter that they were closing it out because one, he took a bunch of those claims off the product
Starting point is 00:32:20 and two, he sold very few. So they were kind of over it. The FDA has, I found a letter from last August, as in 2023, so this has been over a year ago, where the FDA sent a letter about the Tesla MedBed, bio-healing products, and said, basically you are marketing medical devices. These constitute medical devices,
Starting point is 00:32:43 and there is a process for getting- Right, we have laws. Yes, a medical device approved, and you haven't done any of it. I couldn't find a closing letter in that action to see what happened with that. So I don't know if that's ongoing. I don't know what's happening there.
Starting point is 00:32:58 But definitely the FDA has noticed. But Dr. Lew is always quick to remind you that these aren't medical devices, these aren't treatments, these aren't cures. The people who he takes money from at the old Holiday Inn aren't patients. He says that very clearly. We are not a clinic, not a doctor's office.
Starting point is 00:33:15 For me, for the company, I always call them customers. That's what they are. The customers come first at the Tesla BioHealing Resort by Wyndham. There is a process by which you can receive refunds, but I was reading through it on the website. It's very complicated and it's not a complete refund. There are other facilities in Delaware, Illinois,
Starting point is 00:33:34 Arizona, Massachusetts, and there are two in Florida. Yeah. Oh, Florida. Listen, I can't say much. I live in West Virginia, but you never fail at this point. So you can find other facilities across the country. Please don't.
Starting point is 00:33:49 So there is no, I don't even, I don't know how I unravel why this would not work because it doesn't make any sense what they're saying. It would work. It's a big nothing. It would be a waste of money. I will say, and now they do, they have two clinical trials that they say they're working on to prove that it works. There was a, one is ongoing,
Starting point is 00:34:09 so you could still get enrolled in it, which is on Alzheimer's, dementia, and traumatic brain injury, and Parkinson's. And then they have another one that they say they've completed on chronic stroke patients, and they put out a press release about how great it went, but I can't actually find the data from it. They just, just the press release.
Starting point is 00:34:27 So that means nothing, right? If it's not published and peer reviewed and blah, blah, blah, we know. A press release about it doesn't mean anything. Here's the weirdest thing. If you start digging into med beds, this is not a corner of the internet I want to be on ever again.
Starting point is 00:34:43 I looked it up on TikTok and I will hate my algorithm for a long time now because the idea that med beds in general are the future of medicine, it has really penetrated a lot of QAnon type conspiracy circles. And I don't just mean the Tesla med beds. There are definitely people who are huge fans of this
Starting point is 00:35:05 as the thing that's gonna save us all. But if you start digging, there are tons of med beds out there. Some of them are sort of like weird space sage looking pods that you can pay to go sleep in. The science that the people who take your money so that you can sleep in them, the science that they try to explain for them
Starting point is 00:35:26 makes no more sense than this does. Sometimes they don't always talk about biophotons, but they're always just talking about some vague idea of energy that they're surrounding you in. And then the idea that you're treating yourself, which maybe that's the loophole. You're curing yourself. We're not curing you.
Starting point is 00:35:40 We're just facilitating your body's ability to cure itself. You didn't cure you good enough. So how can we, you can't blame us. You should have cured you better. You didn't believe hard enough. That's right. That's what it is, right?
Starting point is 00:35:50 What I have found is that there is one specific conspiracy theory that there are people like Donald Trump who have been using these for a long time and many other wealthy and powerful families. It could be alien technology, we're not sure. And that now that he has won the election, he will make sure that all of us get a free med bed. Well, at least that's something to look forward to.
Starting point is 00:36:18 I wanted to point out, I've been looking at the menu. The website is truly wild. I've been looking at the menu. The website is truly wild. I've been looking at the menu for the onsite restaurant. And I just wanna, I wanna, I'd like to close with this thought, Sydney. One of the energized sweets at the cafe is the, and this is one of their signature dishes, right? The Guinness Brownie Trifle.
Starting point is 00:36:41 Housemade Guinness chocolate brownies layered with Bailey's Irish whipped cream and chocolate sauce. That sounds great. Now that sounds great, right? So obviously I'm not shaming me because I would eat that. But what exactly are these beds fixing? What damage are they doing
Starting point is 00:36:57 that has not been done to me specifically by Guinness brownie trifles layered with Bailey's Irish whipped cream. That is the exact thing that I'm trying to get out, right? Everything in that is, aren't those the toxins that they're worked up about? How are they chucking you full of Guinness whipped cream? And like, we're fixing you. Justin?
Starting point is 00:37:20 This is a wild one, babe. Like, this one's like, pretty beyond. The, the. The suit. There's fish and chips. I mean there's fish and chips. It fits perfectly. This is why when I saw Tesla, I just assumed it was the Tesla,
Starting point is 00:37:35 is because we are also talking about a time where the soon to be head of the Department of Health and Human Services a week ago was talking about basically how food like McDonald's is poison, and then just now was photographed sitting across from Donald Trump eating McDonald's. Because the cognitive dissonance is part of it.
Starting point is 00:37:57 But what I will say is I did find what I'm pretty sure, and I'm not good at identifying this, a very deep fake of Elon Musk talking about Tesla med beds. Weird. I can't imagine it's real though, because this has no relation to Tesla. And I would think if he wanted to sell Tesla med beds, oh, he could.
Starting point is 00:38:16 I mean, yeah. But he probably wouldn't let this other company get all the money. I don't know. But anyway, there's nothing here. This is wild. It's a wild one. I would not advise, please don't buy these products
Starting point is 00:38:26 and don't go to these. We could get out here, Sam. We could get out here. If you wanna go out for a week with a camera, just go film ourselves hanging out. I can't. I don't want, I really don't wanna like, that feels too predatory.
Starting point is 00:38:38 I don't wanna like yell or argue with people and I would not be able to just like experience it because for us it would be like investigation, but for some people they go to these places as the last, they're clinging to this last shred of hope. And that's why it's okay to get angry about it. That's why if this upsets you, that's okay. Like it's not, yes, it's ridiculous
Starting point is 00:39:01 and we can laugh at how ridiculous it is, but at its core, we need to call it out when we see it because it's predatory and harmful. Thank you so much for listening to our podcast. Thanks to the taxpayers for the use of their song, Medicines is the intro and outro of our program. They are on Bandcamp and often putting out new like viral releases and doing shows from time to time.
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Starting point is 00:40:29 That is gonna do it for us. Until next time, my name is Justin McElroy. I'm Sydney McElroy. As always, don't drill a hole in your head. All right!

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