Sawbones: A Marital Tour of Misguided Medicine - Sawbones: Urine

Episode Date: September 13, 2013

Welcome to Sawbones, where Dr. Sydnee McElroy and her husband Justin McElroy take you on a whimsical tour of the dumb ways in which we've tried to fix people. This week: We keep your pee pee in a cup. Music: "Medicines" by The Taxpayers (http://thetaxpayers.net)

Saubones is a show about medical history, and nothing the hosts say should be taken as medical advice or opinion. It's for fun. Can't you just have fun for an hour and not try to diagnose your mystery boil? We think you've earned it. Just sit back, relax, and enjoy a moment of distraction from that weird growth. You're worth it. that weird growth. You're worth it. Alright, time is about to books. One, two, one, two, three, four. We came across a pharmacy with a toy and that's lost it out. We were shot through the broken glass and had ourselves a look around.

Some medicines, some medicines, the escalators, my cop, for the mouth. Wow! Hello everybody and welcome to Saul Bones bones my name is Justin McRoy and I'm Sydney my friend This is our marital tour of this guy to medicine and Sydney, we hurry this one up Well, why I want to brush it. I want to rush to the end. Why would you want to rush to the end? This is so much fun I got a pee I got it. I got a pee. I got a pee. Oh, okay. Well, that's all, that's good.

Could you, would you mind when you do go to pee? Would you, I've, I've stocked the bathroom with several, well, hundreds of small plastic containers in which I'd like you to collect your urine. Do you mind doing that for me? Real quick. just so. Oh. Just pee in any one of those cups. If you could also follow the instructions I've posted

on the wall as to how to sterilize yourself before, just to make sure I get a good sample. Midstreme too would be good. Right, so. I just want to take really good care of you, Justin. I go peepee in the potty. I go, I go peepee in the potty. I go, I go classically. I go peepee in the potty.

Well, I understand that's what you've been taught. That's great, but I really, I'm really gonna need, you know, I am a physician and I wanna, you know, take good care of you too. So if you could just, you know, save all your urine for me, just all of it in those plastic cups Sydney why on earth Would we

Want to store my urine? Well other than for kicks urine is is really a great a diagnostic tool. It's been recognized for centuries that you can tell a lot about what is going on inside the human body by what comes out of it. Considering this is a myrtle tour of misguided medicine, I'm going to assume that some of the things that we have thought that you could tell from it, we were making up. Oh, absolutely. Now, before get into that I do want to thank Chris Parker and Ashley who suggested the topic of urine to us. Yeah. Thank you, Chris and Ashley If you'd like to suggest topic you can email us. Sobones at maximumfund.org So let's talk about pee. Let's do it. Do you know what's in pee?

pee Wait, well, hold on. I know this. I'm not gonna just be an idiot. Come on, Justin. What's in urine? Uh, well, let's see. There's water. There's yellow. There's smell and peepee. All right. Bad job. Uh, but even considering that, you were still like 95% right. Hey, that's, that's something. You gotta give me that, 95% not bad. I saw I got most of those.

Well, just mainly because urine is 95% water. Okay, so by quantity, I guess I got it right. Close enough. So in addition to water, there's urea, there's electrolytes like sodium, chloride, potassium, creatinine, then a lot of other random organic and organic compounds hormones and the like. Now, so what's urea? I'm not familiar with urea. It's a byproduct of metabolism in the human body. It's a waste product and we don't need it, so we get rid of it.

Get on out of here, urea. That's right. And it's a common belief that urine is sterile, That's right. And it's a common belief that urine is sterile, which is kind of a misconception. It is sterile, but that's until it passes through the urethra. Which it has to, right? Obviously, it gets out, the whole. Unless you have a super pubic catheter, but that's a whole other thing. Super pubic catheter, that's something. Super pubic catheter.

Yes, so it does have to pass through the urethra and there are likely bacteria in the urethra and therefore then it doesn't come out, Sarah, which is why we ask for a midstream catch. Thank you. So we get those germs out of the way. What do you mean by midstream catch? Well, you pee a little and then you pee in the cup

and then you finish up in the toilet. Good, pee pee in the potty. These instructions are posted in the cup and then you finish up in the toilet. And good. Peepee in the potty. These instructions are posted in the bathroom and any doctor's office you may ever attend and have to give a urine sample. Okay. I will pay attention next time instead of just peeing like I normally do all over everything, like a monkey. Right.

I'd really appreciate it and so what are cleaning ladies if you stop doing that? Deal. But urine has been used as a- No, deal. I rethought it. I know. I was not that naive. I know you better than that after seven years.

But urine has been used, like I said, for thousands of years. They ancient Babylonians and the Sumerians recorded recorded urine analysis of a sort, results on clay tablets. Hippocrates thought that for all of history to read, let me just jot this down. The smell of urine. The smell's weird. Hippocrates thought that as far as far as diagnostically the most important system in the body was the urinary system. And it you're and really came into its own in the middle ages when they came up with the

name Eurascope or Euro-Mancy. You know a lot of people talk about some of his other books. I think Euro-Mancy is probably my favorite William Gibson of his work. It's a tough read, but I think it's well worth the effort. Euromancy or youroscopy was practiced by many doctors who would diagnose you simply by asking for a bottle of urine. No history or exam required. Well, you would have to go to them, right? I suppose either that or you send your urine in a bottle with your messenger boy. And they would just look at the urine and get that. Yeah, just check out the urine.

You know, a lot of people didn't enjoy it, but I really like Middle Ages house when he would just sit around the table with his four young doctors and they would stare at a bottle of pee. And they would jot ideas about it up on the up on the board and up on the screen. Was it smell like middle middle middle ages sharpies and the lupus. It's never lupus. But let's definitely treat him with high-dose steroids, broad spectrum antibiotics and then chemo. That's house. And then we'll figure out it was a toothpick all along. It was a toothpick from their trip to Africa that they took for our table.

This is even referenced in Shakespeare. Do you remember what Shakespeare this is referenced in? Justin? Mm-hmm. As a student of the theater, I suppose you should know. If I remember correctly, in Henry IV, I suppose you should know if I remember correctly In Henry the fourth I think it was false staff Ask what says the doctor to my water as a way of asking about that if memory sir Well, I just and I'm really impressed. That's absolutely right. Thank you, Sid. How did you know that?

Well, I'm a the I was a theater major of course. I thank you, Sid. How did you know that? Well, I'm a theater major. Of course, I have the first folio by heart memorized. Right. And that's definitely how you knew that. It's absolutely how I knew that. Can you please just give me this one win? There's one win. All right.

Fair enough. And of course, then you know that that was a way of him asking about not just his urinary health, but his health health in general because that's all you need to know. Right. Well, I mean, I've done some light analysis too of these lines. It's not just wrote memorization, folks. You got to dig into the text. Really?

Find the IAMs. Right. Sure. At the same time, this was also a period where you could use urine to tell if someone was a witch. You could? Sure. Times have changed. Because I don't think that would work anymore. It was also a period where you could use year into tell if someone was a witch. You could? Sure.

Times have changed, because I don't think that would work anymore. No, we have much more sophisticated methods of witch hunting now. I think I'm so far in our witch hunting. Yeah, we are strides. How do you exactly tell if somebody is a witch? Well, it's simple.

You pee on them, and if they turn you into a frog, they're not a witch. They're perfect. It's fine. If somebody peed on me and I was able to turn them into a frog, I definitely would. Absolutely not a witch. Proven. Stone cold proven. But that's not what they would do. They would have this suspected witch pee into a bottle. Then they would fill that bottle with metal objects, pins, nails, whatever. Cork it and wait to see if the cork popped out. If it does, a witch. Witch. If not, not a witch. Unless you find another way to prove that they're a witch, which you probably will. Witches have carbonated pee. Lots of people don't know that, but that's that's a fact. That's part of their witchcraft. That's science.

It's the first thing they teach you at Hogwarts. I think my favorite, my favorite use of urine as a diagnostic tool is the urine flavor wheel. Oh man, I am into this right now. I want a urine flavor wheel already, I don't even know what it is. Well, I mean, it's kind of self explanatory. So a urine flavor wheel was a wheel

with different properties of urine recorded. And you could connect different sensory properties of the urine sample to different diagnosis. So you could find the protein that you're having that evening, turn the wheel until it lined up and find the protein that you're having that evening, turn the wheel until it lined up and find the urine that best paired with that protein. If you could become a urine sommelier. Perfect.

Oh, this is a great, a lot of tans. A lot of tans. No, at that time, you know, they understood that urine could be used to tell things about the inside of the body, but they didn't know exactly how to evaluate it. We didn't have like your analysis yet or microscopy. So you evaluated urine with your senses, the color, the taste, the smell, you know, how turbid or how cloudy or clear the urine is. So the urine flavor wheel would tell you the different flavors that your urine might

have that could be associated with certain diseases. For instance, if the wheel said, you know, if you turn the wheel to urine that was astringent, sweet, white and sharp, it sounds like a cheese. This is delightful. This is challenging. This is challenging, urine. I like this. It's okay. This is delightful. This is challenging. This is challenging, Aaron.

I like this. It's oaky. Going with some grapes with this. This would be fantastic. We're weird, by the way. We're weird Romans, so we love this. This would be the urine of a diabetic. Oh, wow.

Okay. Yeah, that's actually where diabetes malitis gets its name. Diabetes references to pass through, which is the large amounts of urine that a diabetic patient would pass. And then Melitis from honey. So passing large amounts of sweet urine. Sweet sweet urine. That's right.

You could also, if you didn't want to do that, you could just pour that urine on the ground and see if bugs came. Okay. That was a good sugar. Okay. Okay. Weird old scientists.

Can we do that one? Instead, maybe? No, let's just taste it. Let's just give it a sweet. You know that they all did, except for like after they discovered that trick, there was one guy who just wouldn't give it up. I really, I really, I really think you get to better, more reliable, read if you love this type of one more sip.

And this, you know, this analysis of urine actually led some women in ancient Rome to drink turpentine to make their urine smell like roses because bad smelling urine was associated with bad health. And drinking turpentine wase with death, so. Yeah, so it wasn't a great plan. No, kind of a short game you're playing there, ladies. And they're hitting on things that are right. I mean, urine that smells bad could mean infection.

Urine that smells sweet or certainly taste sweet, if that's your thing, could mean diabetes. And then certainly we know that there are some foods that you can eat and tell that, you know, you've eaten them from the smell of your urine. Asparagus comes to mind. So if we're just relying on color though, are there actual real life not made up things that you can tell from looking at urine? There are some generalities, yeah. Yeah, oh, did you want to share them with me? Well, I didn't know if you wanted to know.

I do, I do. Let me quiz you. What colors would you like to have at the top? I'll quiz you. I'll quiz you, okay? Okay. Go. Dark yellow.

That's probably dehydration. Orange. That could be vitamins, maybe your jaundice, disease or some medications like the over the counter like peridium urestat. Some people may have taken that. Red. Unfortunately, that's probably blood. That's bad sign. That's a bad sign. Pink. Well, that just means you've been eating beats. Gosh, doc, you know, I, you know, looking at it in this light, it really seems to be more of a pink. I think, don't you think? Yeah, that know, looking at it in this light, it really seems to be more of a pink. I think, don't you think?

Yeah, that's, that's kind of a close call there. I'd say if you're, if you're unsure if it's beets or blood, I'd let a doctor make that call. I don't know, it seems pinkish in a certain light green. You may also have been eating a lot of asparagus, or some medications can turn you your in green. Blue. Usually that just means you were exposed to

methylene blue, certain medication you might have in the hospital. Does food coloring get filtered out in your organs? For the most part, I suppose if you were eating a large amount of just food coloring, you may be able to turn your urine. And I am, I usually am. Nowadays we usually use your analysis to evaluate urine for, you know, the, for protein or

different markers of infections and nitrites, white blood cells, that kind of thing. Although, although I did once hold urine up to the sun in a patient that had porphyry to watch it turn purple. I remember that. Those are very exciting. Do you remember that? I left it in our window still all weekend. Man, how could I forget? You know, one interesting thing, Justin,

is everybody always likes to reference how bad a sparigus can make your pee smell. Do you know that only half of people can smell that? I did not. That's fascinating. Yeah, only 50% of people are able to smell that. So, you know, I like to smell because I know it's supposed to be bad, but you know, it makes me feel I know that I've been eating vegetables. Like I may seem proud, it's a proud smell for me.

Well, you could have vegetables, like, I mean, that's awesome. Go for me. I mean, to be fair, you would also know you're eating vegetables because you ate vegetables Yeah, but like it's a good reminder in case I stop being proud of myself Since I've finished eating boy my piece smells bad good job great job Justin. So proud Well, we've kind of covered the different ways we used urine for diagnoses But you know urine was also uses a treatment treatment. I mean, you got stored. You've got all my urine stored here.

I'm glad I could be put to good use. Right, so I can figure out what's wrong with you. I hope somebody can. And then maybe I can fix it. Fix me. I'm ready. So if we go all the way back again to ancient Rome, Pliny the Elder. What?

You know, Pliny the Elder. What? You know, Pliny the Elder. David the No. No. You never wish and dream and happy home. You will find a kingdom of Pliny the Elder. That was my favorite cartoon. Pliny the Elder.

Pliny the Elder. He's a wizard. He advised using urine for all kinds of things. Put it on sores or burns or scorpion stings or affections of the anus, perhaps. It's not a long trip for your urine. Just work that out. Easier if you're a female, probably. You could maybe if you didn't want to do that,

you could like get some stale urine, you know, kind of like you can use stale bread for certain things, right? Uh-huh. Croutons or whatever. If you got some stale urine, you can mix it with ash and then just put it on your baby's bum for their diaper rash.

Hey, baby, baby, come here, I want to try some. Got to test this medical theory or whatever. I'm gonna pee on you. Just gonna pee on your butt though. I'm gonna pee on your butt, baby, stay still. You can write a book about it someday. Don't worry, I'm gonna rub some ash on it afterwards.

I'll be ash too, baby. Just don't, just don't move, okay? He also wanted to make sure you're remembered to always spit into your urine immediately after you passed it so that you can prevent being cursed. Sure. Sure. Well, that may mean, I mean, obviously. Who doesn't do that really? I still spit my urine. Right. Well, I mean, your guys, as long as you're standing there.

Yeah. What else? What else? Let's get all around everything. You could also brush your teeth with it. Well, you couldn't. I mean, you could. Well, you could. You could. It was known to make your teeth very bright and white and shiny, and your mouth would smell

like pee. So yes, it's kind of take the good, you take the bad, I guess. I guess. One of those situations. That's really a situation where you don't want to eat asparagus. It's when you're going to be seeing a lot of people, but not getting too close to any amount. But not talking necessarily.

Right for lectures. In the same time period, it was also advocated that you could treat a fever by boiling an egg in some of the patients urine and then burying it in an antil. I mean, can we not treat that like a medical treatment and anything other than voodoo? I suppose that falls in that. Well, I guess it's not gonna hurt anybody category. Yeah, except the ants. Thank you.

Thank you so much. This is fantastic. What does this say? Yeah, it smells like an egg, boiled, and pee. This is great for ants. I mean, we have souls, nobody deal. We have some standards. We have like standards.

You can just like put a pee egg in our home. Hey, maybe it was a diabetic and then their sugar and then we're all good. Yeah, maybe. And maybe they look down on the answer, I don't know, man. You go ahead, Jerry's tucking in and he loves it. I think he's weird. Do you remember Justin, the French surgeon

that we mentioned in our Amputation episode? I am Ambroise Pérez. You have vaguely. He had something to say about urine as well. Sure. Get it out. Get it out of the system. So let's say, you know, you got a pee.

Why not just go ahead, pee into a barber's basin, like you do. Right, everybody's got one of those. Everybody's got one of those. Keep it all night. And then tomorrow morning, in case your eyelids are itchy, you could just wash them with it and it'll help. That is really thinking ahead.

That is a level of preparation that I really can't, you know, my eyelids might be itchy tomorrow. I am gonna go ahead and pee now. So it's good and stale overnight and Just rub it on there good. Do you know how itchy my islands would have to be like the edges like it's here then boy and also Treacherous walking at night got off to get him a night snack just Watch watch where you step mind those barber's basins of pee that I leave around but we're happy to have you

Uncle Dan never staying with you people again. I should have paid for the motos It was very reasonable the the French also advocated soaking your stockings and urine and then wrapping them around your throat if you had What will it will we would now know as strep throat. A richly called peanut. Old peanut. Oh, you got the old peanut. You got the peanut.

I hate that. See, a lot of these cases recently. They're also over in England on the advice of both Robert Boyle and Thomas Willis, who is the richest doctor in England. You should just drink your own urine. Why not? Every morning, it'll keep you healthy. Just.

Let's step it up a notch. We're wrapping it around our neck. We're boiling eggs in it. No more. We're rubbing it on our eyelids. No more games. Let's just drink it. Let's just drink the urine. We've all been dancingbing it on our eyelids. No more games. Let's just drink it. Let's just drink the

urine. We've all been dancing around it for millennia. Let's just drink this pee. And it continued to be popular to use urine. I mean, for all sorts of things, an Italian doctor, Leonardo Fioravanti, urinated on a man's nose after it had been sliced off during like some kind of dispute, some kind of sword battle, some kind of display of swordsmanship. Sword, sword challenge. Sword challenge. He immediately urinated on the man's nose and then sewed it back on. Fantastic.

Henry the A-Surgeon, Thomas Vickery, he also advised washing battle wounds in urine. No, that would not help, right? That's the sterile thing again. Right. I mean, that's not as good. Or if we didn't have no sterile back then, like we did in the beginning. No, no. We did think it would help, you know, there is some thought that the urea could help a little bit with like killing bacteria, but again, it's still not a great thing to wash wounds in. It also probably didn't work for ulcers as it was advised for gangrene or poisonous bites or insect stings. Pretty much anything. It was used against

the plague, but what didn't we try? It wasn't. And then they're also in the 1670s, they began to collect vast quantities of children's urine because it was thought to be cleaner to distill it down to make a salt. And then the essence of urine was sold to upper-class women for the vapors. You know that even after they dispelled that, there was still one guy. You know, I've got all this child's urine. I'm just going to hold on to it. You never know. You know, these treatments go. Might come back around, might come back in a fashion.

Last year they told us not to eat eggs, this year they said eggs are good for you. You know, it's so, let's just keep the kid pee. You never know. You never know. The, you know, this is- We're also not gonna fight, I can't take- Collect it again, let's take forever. Those parents are never gonna let me into their houses again. You know how much candy I had'd give away? Crazy amounts. This trend followed American pioneers to the New World

and they used to actually put P in their ears and then plug them up with washcloths for earwrakes. He's got a friend of life super still. She don't move. Just, Jerry, if you could hold real still. Just get a friend to lie super still. You don't move. Just, Jerry, if you could hold real still. Just, Jerry, just don't move. Just don't move, Jerry. Really don't, you should probably close your mouth.

Just close it. It may be your eyes too. Just close anything open. Just definitely not the ears. Really don't move. Just really, oh, see? See, move, that's not my fault. That's totally on you.

That's on you literally, it's on you. It's on your my fault. That's totally on you. That's on you literally. It's on you. It's on your cheek. No. Now other than medical, other than medical uses, you know, urine was also advocated as a beauty aid that women should wash their faces in it. It would improve your complexion.

They thought it was good for baby skin, so they actually thought it would be a good idea to just once you take off that P diaper just go ahead and rub it on your baby's face Baby Take this take that welcome to life. This is what the world is like baby This is what it means to be human is life Remember I did this you'll thank me one day. You won't. But your skin, your skin won't be any different because I'm an old idiot. And this is the first thing you're going to tell your therapist in 20 years. No, I mean, do you know what they did? This was

1975. I mean, this has been thoroughly disproven by this point. Please don't rub your baby's diapers on their faces. I mean, just don't. You'll get CPS will be called. Yeah, sorry. Sorry. It was used to clean hats. It was you, it was tried for a while as invisible ink. Your in was. You know, that might work.

Okay, no wait. You can't try something as invisible ink for a while. Like this is it. Well, we wrote it and it disappeared. We're still waiting for it to come. Yeah. Well, you know, there's something, a lemon, a while. Like we wrote it and it disappeared. We're still waiting for it to come. Well, you know, there's something, a lemon, a candle. There has to be something to make my pee appear. I don't make it come back.

Oh, you know, it was used for gunpowder, too. Pea on some straw and it would rot. And then you would, I don't know, mix it with something. Anyway, it could be used for gunpowder. It alchemists tried to distill it down to make gold. That was really a last ditch attempt by Alchemists. Anything at this yellow. I don't know. There might be gold in there. We've been trying really hard. We can't make the lead thing happen. Nothing is working. You know, in World War I, we used urine. I thought this was interesting. Soldiers were instructed because the enemies were

using chlorine gas against our soldiers. They said, well, if you think that somebody's about to use gas, then you have this cloth we give you. So just pee on it real fast and hold it over your face and use it as like a gas mask. Because it was thought that the ammonia and your urine would counteract the chlorine in the gas. But I'm guessing not. No. That doesn't work. It actually probably becomes more toxic. The mixing of ammonia.

Well, it makes you an ammonia and bleach makes chlorine gas. OK. I have a new number one worst way to die. And it is in WWE one Holding a p-rag over my mouth to defend against the gas attack that would be The worst that hopefully it didn't actually cause any death as much as it just Resulted in a lot of soldiers unfortunately running around with pee on their faces I'm wishing for death maybe

praying for the sweet release of death. You know, in this whole theory of drinking urine urine is actually still, I mentioned it earlier, it's still practiced some today. Alternative medicine, they call it urin opathy or uropathy. The it is advocated any from it to help with anything from increasing fertility, stimulating sexuality, fever, yeast infections, diabetes, bladder problems, cancer, breaking down blood clots, gosh, gosh, man, that sounds like it's curing a lot of things.

You know, you can almost call it. Maybe it's almost something of a cure all. I think you could call it that. What have we learned about cure alls in this show gang? Cure alls, cure nothing. Okay, I know people are still doing it. You know, if you want to try it Let's just keep it in a historical perspective. Okay. I should I should note that the American Cancer Society advises against drinking your own urine to prevent cancer

Finally me the American Cancer Society finds some common ground There there has also been urine has been used for practice in yoga called amarali. Is that what hot yoga is? I've been one man. I hope not. It was advocated by the former prime minister, India. I do itchy wet yoga.

You just pee on yourself. You just pee on yourself. It's hot. But the thought was that if you drink your first AM urine, it might contain some more melatonin, which is the chemical. It's a hormone in our brains that makes us, it calms us down, tells us it's sleepy time. So if you drink it in the morning,

then maybe you'll be better at meditation and yoga and generally being calm. You know, I can buy melatonin. I would advise doing that. You know you can buy it. Yeah, don't drink your pee. In Mexico, there's still some places where they actually have a child. If you broke, if you break a bone, they'll

have a child urinate into a bowl of charred bone. And then they'll make a poultice and put it on the broken bone. Not something I do in my office. I was gonna eat that cord. God darn it. It should be noted that there are some famous people who would advocate this. It was said that Jim Morrison, John Lennon, Gandhi all tried this and... And it killed them. Drinking their own pee. No, no, I didn't say that. I don't know that it helped anything. And Madonna, she doesn't drink her own pee as far as I know, but she does pee on her feet to help with her athlete's foot. So you learn two things today. I think that's just a good excuse for

peeing in the shower. Good job, Madonna. You found a way around the system. Sydney, I know that there's a lot of, we've talked about a lot of pluses and minuses. What about the big one, jellyfish things? Is that an actual application for PP? No. Oh, man. No. And as a matter of fact, from everything that I have read and researched, you're in probably,

it well definitely does not help jellyfishistings and it probably makes it worse. Oh man. So much to the chagrin of friends fans. If you watch the show, you get that reference. That indie hit. Don't underground. Don't be on your jelly fisting. And I should note to the, the army actually recommends many,

many times not to drink your own urine, no matter what kind of survival situation you're in, no matter how dehydrated you are, drinking your own urine will only make things worse. If you're really hot, you could pee on a shirt or towel or something and wrap it around your head. That's a good idea. I think we saw bear girls do that. I think so. this strikes a chord.

But still don't drink your own peak, no matter how dehydrated you are getting, it will make things worse. Well, I have all this peace, said, what's it used for? Is there anything? We can do some things with P. Obviously, as I mentioned, it can still be used for diagnostic purposes

in many, many ways. But as far as treatment, there are hormones in urine that we can synthesize. For instance, estrogen replacement therapy, Primmerin is made from mayor urine, as in female horses. Sure. We do use urea creams, so urea, that is in urine.

We do use creams not synthesized from urine necessarily, but urea-based creams for dry skin. So that whole beauty aid thing comes from somewhere probably. And there is, you know, I scoffed at the breaking down blood clots, but there is an enzyme Euro kinase that synthesized from urine that we do use to break up blood clots. Now again, there's no evidence that drinking your own pee will do anything of that nature. But why not give it a shot? Yeah, all these things come from somewhere, I guess. I still, I have to say, I know I don't

give medical advice, but I still have to say that drinking your own urine is probably not a good idea. Just no, there's no call for it. What there is a call for is for us to say thank you to you at home for listening to another episode of Sal bones. We hope you've had as much fun as we have want to thank those of you who are reviewing the show on iTunes people like dumb people suck cannibal chain saw detective a 1F Tom I'm a teacher H. J. Cheerio bunny Fufu loomi in Ecclen Angelente and Helenteg. There we go.

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