Scamanda - Chapter 7 — This Lady Royally Sucks

Episode Date: June 19, 2023

Amanda moves to Gilroy for a huge promotion - to Principal of a local Christian School. Nancy is still making trouble for her. In an attempt to get Nancy off her back, Amanda takes Nancy to court to g...et a restraining order against her. An explosive piece of evidence is submitted to the court. Scamanda is a Lionsgate Sound podcast: http://lionsgatesound.com Hosted by Charlie Webster. New episodes every Monday. Listen to another Lionsgate Sound podcast hosted by Charlie Webster, Died & Survived: https://link.chtbl.com/diedandsurvived?sid=sc Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 A mandasi Riley had some bad news for the followers of her blog and her cancer journey. The doctor was gentle, but basically explained that at this point it is no longer medically plausible for me to be cured. In all fairness I knew it was coming, but it was still tough to hear. I even asked how long, again. He said it all depends on how my body reacts to the drugs. Maybe three to six months? Two weeks later, the blogs stopped being updated. There was no activity for five months.
Starting point is 00:00:44 Until. A new broad post. It's been a while since I posted. I've been trying to rediscover normalcy. If I'm being honest, this isn't quite what I thought life without cancer would be like. Yep, Amanda's cancer was officially gone. In her longest post yet, she got vulnerable
Starting point is 00:01:06 with her loyal readers and really opened herself up, telling them what she was actually feeling about finally saying goodbye to cancer. But it wasn't quite what you might expect. Cancer changes you. I am not the same person I was before I got diagnosed. Cancer made me stronger, bolder, and a little harder. The things I liked before cancer
Starting point is 00:01:29 and I thought were important aren't now. The people I wanted to spend my time with and the things I wanted to do have drastically changed. I feel like cancer made me grow up a lot faster. I'm not as ignorant. You can imagine how much of a toll it takes never knowing what day will be your last. Constantly being told you have months to live.
Starting point is 00:01:53 Only to go into remission and then relapse, over and over again. Cancer undoubtedly changed Amanda. And with it came the responsibilities and pressure of sharing her story so openly for all to see. After cancer is also really lonely and kind of dark if I'm being completely raw. When I was going through treatment I got unwannably shoved into the spotlight of receiving 24 hour a day support. People cheering me on, leaving me nice messages, checking on me, although being the center of attention is never something I wanted, it was what I needed.
Starting point is 00:02:35 His interest in the way Amanda felt like she'd been shoved into the spotlight, given that it was Amanda herself who chose to start her blog, too. Not only keep friends and family in the loop, but serve as a resource to all those newly diagnosed. Being a cancer influencer is difficult, especially when there's questions about the authenticity of what you're putting out there. Was the spot like truly unwanted?
Starting point is 00:03:01 Don't forget, while Amanda was posting this, she knew at this point that the IRS were investigating her and watching her every move. She told me that she was going to be taking down the curbsome of her social media and her blog. She told her close friend Rebecca Caffero that the blog was coming down. She said because of that, because they were doing all of this
Starting point is 00:03:23 research or investigation, she was taking down her blog, and she was going to be a lot more private on social media. It turns out this was to be her last ever blog post. It's almost like PTSD for cancer, living in constant fear of when will it come back without all the distraction to keep you out of your head. But while it might have been the end of her blog, when will it come back, without all the distraction to keep you out of your head? But while it might have been the end of her blog, it wasn't the end of Amanda C. Riley and her cancer story.
Starting point is 00:04:23 I'm Charlie Webster. You're listening to Scamander. With the ongoing IRS investigation and the court battle with Nancy over a restraining order, Amanda probably needed a break from the blog anyway. At the same time, her career was taking off with a huge promotion. She left her job as an English teacher at Valley Christian to become principal at Pacific Point Elementary School in Gilroy, California. At the time that Amanda was going for a restraining order, she had become principal of a Christian elementary school, Nancy.
Starting point is 00:04:53 When that happened, I was dumbfounded by it because her previous work experience was a substitute teacher for English. And then when she got the job as a full English teacher, she taught for a few months and then was out on sick leave from months on end until they let her go. And then she got hired as a summer camp person at the Christian Elementary School and went from camp counselor basically to principal, which is mind-boggling. Amanda had moved to Gilroy, a half-hour drive from San Jose.
Starting point is 00:05:29 It's classed as the southern gateway to Silicon Valley. We drove up to Gilroy to get a feel of where all this happened. The town is known as the garlic capital of the world. We could smell garlic from miles away. 90% of America's garlic is processed there, with over 100 million pounds of garlic harvested every year. I was born at Wheeler Hospital in Gilroy in 1978, and my mom was a nurse, and my dad was a police officer.
Starting point is 00:05:59 I was here my whole life. It was a smaller town than you know, you walked to school, you did everything. This is local Gil Roy Mom, Rebecca Spencer. She has two boys, James and Jonathan. Jonathan is terminally ill. He has a rare fatal disease called Neiman Pick Disease Type C. Everybody's very given and donating to my son,
Starting point is 00:06:21 people are amazing. We had this big fun, we raisediser at the winery every year, and we've raised hundreds of thousands of dollars for my son's disease, and people go out of their way to help my child. Giorgio is just a special place. There will always be home. I still live here else.
Starting point is 00:06:38 I'll live here till I die. Rebecca was looking for a new school for her son, James, Jonathan's younger brother. Giorno Husband, we're looking for a new school for her son James, Jonathan's younger brother. Gina Husband were looking for somewhere that would be able to cater for their family's needs. She settled on Pacific Point where Amanda was principal. My husband went to private school in the same town and to Christian private school. When my mother-in-law passed away, her last wish was that my son would go to private
Starting point is 00:07:04 school and especially a mother-in-law passed away, her last wish was that my son would go to private school and especially a Christian private school. So we went and we met Ms. Riley, we had a tour, we talked about how amazing the school is. We just walked around the school with my two children and they showed us the different classrooms and what the school was all about. At that time, classrooms and what the school was all about. At that time, I had talked to her because we were talking about James, you know, having this brother with a terminal illness and how hard we wanted to make sure that they knew that he would be missing school because he had to come with us at that point for Jonathan's treatments. So she said, oh yes, we understand and we prayed together.
Starting point is 00:07:45 At that time, she told us she was in remission. And that she had been getting treatments for years. And that she was doing better. She just had to go in a few times. And that's all I knew about the cancer that she was in remission. What we have first impressions of her? Amazing, sweet, kind, beautiful, well-spoken, her son and my son were in the same class.
Starting point is 00:08:14 We knew that was happening. I just thought she was wonderful. My husband and I both thought she was wonderful. We were impressed. My son struggled with learning things in the beginning of kindergarten. So we had to come into meetings with her and the other teacher and kind of talk about him
Starting point is 00:08:32 different ways of him learning. So she actually tested him in her office and did all these things with James. Just kind of see where he was academically because he wasn't quite with the other kids. Now he is, but at that point, he was a slow learner. So she did all the testing with him, called me about it. So, I mean, she seemed like she knew exactly what she was doing. I never once thought she wasn't a great principal. Every morning, she would sit there and she had this big board. They'd do their assemblies and then you would walk up to the board and it would say,
Starting point is 00:09:08 you could neither ask for a high five, a nod, a hug, you know, and all the kids would point to what they wanted and she would hug. Every kid they wanted to be hug, high five, every kid that needed to be high five, and really made it personal. She was so good with the kids. Most of the kids wanted to hug her, not shake her hand or wave. It was just an amazing thing. All the most of the parents stayed for this every morning. It was a very happy place to go to and she made things happy.
Starting point is 00:09:38 She could walk in and light up every child in that room. Although Amanda was no longer updating her blog after her news that she was cancer-free, Pacific Point was doing a fundraiser for two six staff members. One of them was a mandasi Riley. Her cancer was back again. We found out that her cancer was back when her and Miss Cindy did a fundraiser together. She used to come in in the mornings like in her pajamas and stuff, like sometimes to get work done before she had to go have treatments. So of course we all donated, we all wanted to help both of them.
Starting point is 00:10:15 It was heartbreaking that these two women who give their life to the children were both out of their remission and their cancers both came back. It was just fundraising just to raise money through donations and stuff to both of them. They would email us through the school too. It was, you know, the school was involved. They just wanted to help them with whatever they needed for expenses. So everybody just donated money. The school set up a website with a title,
Starting point is 00:10:43 helping Mrs. Riley and Ms. Cindy to fundraise. They said that all proceeds will go to help them both with medical bills and living expenses, while they are fighting the good fight. Those who donated would receive a personalized t-shirt with the term, Pat Pointe Strong on it. These are some of the comments that were left on the fundraising site. Mrs. Riley has been a blessing to my children. We love you Mrs. Riley and our love and prayers are with you both. Love you Miss Cindy. Riley and Miss Cindy are in our prayers and we wish them all their all praying for Mrs. Riley and Miss Cindy. May God bless them and give them courage through
Starting point is 00:11:22 this difficult time. W wishing them both good health. We personally donated 500 as a family and we donate it to both of them. We just donated because you know you always try to help other people. Seeing Miss Riley having two little boys, One in the same class as my son, the other one a year older. It was heartbreaking seeing the little boys and wondering how their mom's doing. One time I saw Miss Riley coming in the morning
Starting point is 00:11:54 and she was still in her pajamas and she said, you know, she was just having a really hard time and she needed to get the kids into school and, you know, that it had come back and that, you know, she's just trying to get back together. She took a couple of months off at that point and then she was coming back and we were all so excited when she came back. What were you told about that period of time? That she was back into treatment and we were just told by the school that she was very sick and that trying to support her through
Starting point is 00:12:22 the cancer coming back. They had told us it was Hodgkin's lymphoma and they were just supporting her. Even though the blog was officially finished, Amanda's updates didn't stop, though now there was no specific mention of the word cancer, just that she was sick. The pictures moved to Facebook, and instead of writing blogs, she posted
Starting point is 00:12:46 selfie videos in hospital, like this one. So today is my 70th day in the hospital and it is my last day in this hospital. As I found out, I'm officially moving to a higher level care hospital tomorrow. So if you could just pray against my nerves and that the doctors are able to find answers and bring with them. And when you saw her after that, what did she say? She just said her cancer was back and she was you know in treatment and hoping that it would get better. And then we all would pray, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:25 and they would pray for her and they assemblies. And did you pray for her then? Absolutely. It was devastating, you know, you don't want somebody that is that passionate with your children and that wonder, well, anybody in general with cancer or whatnot. And having a child that's sick
Starting point is 00:13:41 and seeing all the stuff that really goes on in the world with sick kids. I need faith, my son. If some reason we don't find a cure and he goes before me which hope to God it won't happen, but reality is it probably will. I want the faith because I have to believe that there's something more out there.
Starting point is 00:13:58 I have to. The school didn't give much information to parents about Amanda's continued absences. We heard that she was in the hospital and she was just getting sicker and sicker. But one person did. Nancy called and that's like how I found out more information. Nancy was calling anybody she could get a hold of to let people know that there was more to Amanda's story than meets the eye. And Amanda was doing all she could to get Nancy out of her life.
Starting point is 00:14:29 The restraining order she wanted was not just for me to be restrained in talking to her or coming near her, but also restrained against her family. So from her husband, the stepdaughter and the two children that they were concerned about. It didn't want me contacting employers or relatives of the protected parties. Amanda reached out to Rebecca Cafiero. She was the friend that took the family photos and used to work with Amanda's mum Peggy. Amanda asked me if I'd been contacted by a reporter. I'm like, no, what's going on? And she's like, oh, well, apparently there was some conflict with Cory's ex-wife,
Starting point is 00:15:09 but there was allegations going against Amanda and Cory and some type of tension. And she just said that his ex-wife has a friend that's a reporter, and they're trying to create a slanderous case, but they've been reaching out poking around but there's you know there's no truth to any of it and so they can't get any information because none of it's true so the reporters they came and they're not even gonna be able to do anything with it. She said she was like filing restraining order she was putting a kibosh on it. What was your response to that? I remember just thinking like how
Starting point is 00:15:43 unbelievably horrible that you know, to be one just going to cancer and like the day to day of like figuring things out, you know, you know, you know, I mean, feeling like crap. Your bills, like, what if I die? And I'm like leaving two children behind like all of these things and then to deal with something like someone slandering you.
Starting point is 00:16:01 I mean, I was like, this ex-wife is a piece of work. Amanda's court case had nothing to do, however, with the ex-wife, Alita. Amanda filed for a civil harassment restraining order against Nancy. Claiming Nancy had gotten her fired from her previous job, gotten her husband fired from his job. That Nancy was harassing her family members and friends
Starting point is 00:16:24 and posing as a federal agent. So what was it like going to court for this? So we ended up having a two-day hearing with a judge assigned to the case. Almost like a little trial. There's no jury or anything, but the judge is your jury, basically. And it's presented just like a trial. I had to take the stand.
Starting point is 00:16:47 My lawyer walked me through whatever they did and then her attorney crossed examine me and asked me questions also. I took the stand, a man took the stand, or husband Corey took the stand. We had a couple of witnesses that took the stand, and it's like going through a trial. I knew that the ramifications of this one South
Starting point is 00:17:11 could jeopardize my work, my career. You know, that's my livelihood. I knew it was important, and I did not take this lightly at all. The consequences for Nancy, if the civil harassment case didn't go her way, were serious. It wasn't just her ability to contact Amanda's circle that was on the line. It was her professional credibility and reputation.
Starting point is 00:17:35 She had to prove that what Amanda was claiming about her wasn't true. It started with employment records from Amanda's previous job as an English teacher. We presented all our evidence. The records that were subpoenaed from her previous workplace, it's a three-inch binder of them communicating with Amanda via texts and emails about her never showing up to work because she has cancer and that she's too sick to teach and too sick to come in and parents complaining that their kid's teacher isn't there. And so the school had no choice but to replace her. They couldn't find substitutes anymore and that they were paying, and she was not coming into work because she was too sick because of her cancer.
Starting point is 00:18:26 There was a parent at that school that was of the mindset that she didn't have cancer and told people at that school. And I got a call from the principal of the school. The first thing she asked me was, why didn't we see it in her background check? I said, Amanda Riley is not charged with anything. I said, I cannot tell you on the phone that Amanda Riley does not have cancer. I said, what I will tell you is that if you would like more information, here is the name of the federal investigator.
Starting point is 00:19:02 Here is her name, here is her contact number. And if you have questions about anything, you should call her. And that was the extent of my conversation with that school. So I never got her fired. I never called the school at one point. She's claiming I emailed the brother hundreds of times, called the school hundreds of times.
Starting point is 00:19:26 I mean, we subpoenaed all my cell phone records, all my work phone records. We brought all of that to court for the judge. There's no calls. There's no calls. There were calls. Nancy did make calls, maybe not hundreds, but she was actively calling people.
Starting point is 00:19:43 My attorney prepped me amazingly. There was a lot to prep. There was a lot, because you basically had to go through the list that Amanda included in the documents and then have evidence for that, you know, of me not doing these things and the best of the ability to show that. And prepped to be able to answer questions not only from my own attorney but from whatever her attorney would ask.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Was that the first time you met Amanda in person? Yes. What did you think? She came in impeccably dressed, very well put together. You know, she was at that point a principal at an elementary school so she looked very much that part, you know. Blazer dress heels the whole bit. She was very bubbly, she was very friendly.
Starting point is 00:20:29 Towards the judge, kind of giggly, like, oh, where do I go? What do I do? Am I doing this? And her attorney was with her. We testified, and then there was like a 10 minute break, and then we had lunch. It was a lunch break. And at that time, I was talking to my council, so it was myself and two attorneys at that point.
Starting point is 00:20:51 We were saying, oh, yeah, we should walk out and go get something to eat. We were in downtown San Jose. And she walked right over to us, I said, oh, you should try this cafe. You should try this place to get coffee, and they make great sandwiches. And I heard the voice, but it took me a second to register that this was Amanda talking to us. And I just kind of like turned and looked
Starting point is 00:21:11 and my attorney went, OK, thank you. And she was like, oh yeah, there's so many great places down to it. Just like nothing was wrong. Like we were just all there together for some. It was a very strange interaction. I thought it was extremely odd. What was she saying on the stunt?
Starting point is 00:21:30 Oh, well, she spoke, you know, all about how I got her fired because as far as she was concerned, they told her that I called and I threatened them and I said, if you don't fire her, I'm going to go public and say that you allowed this fraud to continue. She talked all about that. She talked about how I would call and represent myself as a federal agent to people and that if they didn't say what I
Starting point is 00:22:03 wanted them to say, I was gonna arrest them. I was supposed to be this menacing, threatening person to everybody. You should talk about that. Yeah, she's just a shed no problem lying. I wanted to trust in the fact that the judicial system worked for me or worked properly.
Starting point is 00:22:25 One of the calls Nancy did make was to a team Amanda supporter who wrote a letter to the cords backing Amanda up. She says in her letter, Nancy claimed to be calling on behalf of the IRS and was trying to acquire pertinent information to this case. I have pointed out to her that I had witnessed a more than one occasion, Amanda violently throwing up from treatment, and that to me was not something that could be faked. The letter goes on to say, She strongly suggested that was false, and that because the investigation was underway,
Starting point is 00:22:58 I was another of many who was being scammed. I did not for a second believe these deplorable allegations. To know how much Amanda has been through, Nancy's actions are quite frankly unconscionable. And the letter continues, I have zero questions out of the legitimacy of this, because the woman I saw with my own eyes was someone who was fighting the battle of her life. Rebecca Caffero was also backing up team Amanda. This is a voice note Rebekah sent Amanda. I love to understand the whole thing, as much as you feel comfortable sharing. But I will tell you, if this is, I mean, I don't know the situation, but if this is his
Starting point is 00:23:42 acts and this reporter and corrupt IRS agent or just a super unfair one, I will put the full power of everything behind exposing this bullshit. Amanda and Rebecca were exchanging voice notes about the court case. This is a voice note that Amanda sent to Rebecca. So the first day courts over a second day tomorrow would help Luba walk away with a straining order and charges. So, hey, you're able to say, I wish no ill will against anybody, but these people who
Starting point is 00:24:13 all the lady royally suck. I was a really big problem for her, and I wasn't going away, and she needed me to go away. I remember we came back from a break after we presented and she came in and she printed out a picture of an award. She claimed she got that we were able to show it was in her employment file that she had lied about it and they had found that out. That was one of the reasons they fired her, right? They actually fact checked her resume and she came in physically with the award. It was the strangest thing. It
Starting point is 00:24:51 was like she had it in the car. I don't know where that she went and got this from. She just was a very strange individual. The things that shouldn't have mattered. She shouldn't have cared one Iota that there was this little thing about her claiming to get this award when she was in college. Like, that shouldn't have been her focus, but that was her focus. She came back in from break to prove she had that award. It's very strange.
Starting point is 00:25:19 And what was Corey's involvement in any of this? Corey testified to the fact that he too lost his job because I contacted his workplace that didn't happen. He had already left that place of business like two or three weeks before I ever called there. So I knew he was lying. He went on there and he, because my lawyer took them through her going back and forth to New York, all the treatments she had. Oh, so you went with your wife to appointments?
Starting point is 00:25:49 Yes, I was there by her side. I was always with her." Amanda did post pictures of Corey and her in hospital throughout her blog, and even after she took it down, she still posted the two of them in hospital together on Facebook. Here's just one of the posts that she shared. Alongside a selfie, she took of the two of them in hospital together on Facebook. Here's just one of the posts that she shared. Alongside herself, she took of the two of them in hospital, Amanda in a hospital bed, and Corey by her side. Special shout out to this stud. It's been a crazy ride, and he's been there the whole way,
Starting point is 00:26:22 right by my side, holding our family together. Comes to all the doctors, surgeries, and hospital trips, and still works and loves on our boys. Thanks for being our rock. She'd never ever produced anything to the judge to show that she had cancer, which would have been done in two seconds. She could have came in, but here's a note from a doctor. This is who it is, Judge, why don't you go call?
Starting point is 00:26:51 And you could talk all about my cancer, because that would have been really bad for me, right? That would have been the way to make me go away. And we stated that many times over. And there was never anything. When we were going to court for the restraining order, we had subpoenaed all documents. We had asked us subpoenaed documents from the medical facility that she was being treated of, which is Columbia, New York.
Starting point is 00:27:20 They didn't have anything that they could release to us. And then they said, what we do have, I thought we are able to share with you, is not a medical record, but a letter that Amanda Riley wrote to Columbia. After I had talked to Columbia and sent them the blog links,
Starting point is 00:27:41 they were quite concerned about what they saw in the blog. They reached out to Amanda and asked her to stop including them in the blog. Basically, a cease and desist letter was sent to her. And with that, she wrote the letter to them apologizing for wasting their time and explained why she did what she did. Here's a selection of excerpts from the letter that Amanda allegedly wrote to Columbia University Hospital. I intended to be public with my decision to stop treatment,
Starting point is 00:28:17 but I panicked. When people asked me what was next, I told them I would keep fighting. When the reality was, I already notified my hospital I wouldn't. People kept asking what trial I was doing and how the treatment would go. So I lied. There's just not a nice way to say it. I somehow justified it in my mind that I would keep refusing treatment.
Starting point is 00:28:43 And by people thinking I'm still in treatment, they wouldn't think I was a loser or a quitter when things got worse. I'm really sorry for doing that. It was a really bad choice. I wish I could take back, but I can't. I've pulled down the blog and again, apologize.
Starting point is 00:29:02 The letter to Columbia was accepted into evidence. Though the judge acknowledged it was hearsay evidence, Amanda's team denied she had ever read or written the letter. After two days on the stand, multiple witnesses and testimony from Corey, Amanda, and Nancy, the final verdict was in. You're not panicked. You feel very empty and I don't know what the word I'm looking for. A lot of apprehension, just stomach and knock, like you're just kind of waiting.
Starting point is 00:29:36 Waiting is hard. Regardless if you feel, hey, everything went great, we were able to impede you on several things. We knew we did what we set out to do, but we didn't know what to expect from the judge. So, yeah, there's this knots in your stomach feeling while you're waiting. And what did the judge rule? The judge said, found there's no reason for me to be restrained and that nothing was granted. There was no restraining order. So, what was it like when the judge said there was no grounds? That was great. It was great. It was a big relief. He found that there was no reason to issue a restraining order. Her attorney did say, well, we feel we're going to appeal this. And I remember like, I just looked at my attorneys
Starting point is 00:30:24 and the judge said, if that's the route you're going to go, that I think you should be warned, that if you're going to file charges against Miss Mosquitello, then she will have every right to every last medical record of your client. So as long as you're aware that by going down that road, you should be aware that that opens up the door for Miss Mosquitello and her attorneys to every last bit of medical information on your client.
Starting point is 00:31:00 There was a very small part of me that was like, oh, well that would be interesting. You know, because of me that was like, oh, well, that would be interesting. You know, because you have to think like, that would be the end of it. How much did that cost in the end? Over $200,000. The judge ultimately found that Nancy was protected under freedom of the press granted by the First Amendment. However, at Nancy not being a freedom of the press granted by the First Amendment.
Starting point is 00:31:25 However, at Nancy not being a part of the press, the judge said that, if Miss Mosquitello referring to Nancy was not a journalist, I think I would conclude that barely and just barely, there will be sufficient evidence to issue a protective order. to issue a protective order. I was, you know, extremely annoyed, frustrated, angry, that she would do this. But I have to say, it was not unexpected and not at a character for her.
Starting point is 00:31:55 I mean, I was a really big problem for her. And so, she threw everything she could at it. You have a daughter and partner. What did your own family think when it started to become... Like, you know, you have folders and folders and... You know, especially when she starts to drag you through a core and what did they think? Did they question your almost obsession? It's almost like you both became obsessed with each other.
Starting point is 00:32:28 My daughters were in high school, in my husband. You know, they know the work I do. I've worked in true crime for over 25 years, in some capacity, in everything from the OG Simpson case, being involved heavily in that, to Amy Fish. Like, there's so many cases I worked at over the years They were just used to me being Whatever the case was I words working on of the story
Starting point is 00:32:52 You know that's part of my life like you this is what you do They were very used to that This was such an unusual case for me because it was Happening in real time They knew how much I loved my work and how good I was at it and that I wasn't gonna stop and we would joke about it. My husband definitely at one point when they tried to sort of papers for the harassment, his biggest thing was you know he said that this is coming to the next level now and they know where you live,
Starting point is 00:33:27 they know who you are and that we just pay more attention to comings and goings here, you know, like just who's around and where we're at. Wasn't it, he was fearful of her as much as the husband. The husband is a bodybuilder, he's a big guy, he seems like a hothead, like those are the things I could gather from what I was looking at and understanding.
Starting point is 00:33:49 And that was more of the concern that boy, this guy's got to be really angry with you as well. If you are accurate and she does not have cancer, you are there worst nightmare. Because he knew I wouldn't stop, They knew that everybody is touched by cancer. Everybody has people that have died from cancer. Close or family members, you know, we lost my sister. We lost my mother-in-law. We lost.
Starting point is 00:34:15 My father, like, in a very short period of time, a lot of people took cancer. And he felt the same way I did it. This was someone that needed to stop doing this. It made me know what she was capable and know that she needed to be stopped even more. Because someone else wouldn't have had the ability to defend themselves like I did.
Starting point is 00:34:41 The end of the civil harassment case spawned a chain reaction. She just kind of stopped going to church. I didn't question it. I didn't. You know, some people I know that you sometimes you grow out of church and you go find another church. I kind of made that assumption. Maybe she just grew out of it and found another church. But yeah, she just kind of just stopped going out of nowhere. I remember the repeat moments I would catch myself like,
Starting point is 00:35:03 let me see how she's doing. I'll go on her page, you know? And I would see pictures of her again that she's struggling with cancer. I remember I checked on her page, you see, because I haven't heard from her. I seen her in the hospital bed crying, like, bald, you know? I'm saying, I'm going through something so rough right now. The worst season of my life.
Starting point is 00:35:25 And that was, like even then, I still was like, oh, she's still going through stuff. Like I didn't still think anything of it. Your blog was disabled and, you know, and that's how I kept up on a lot of things and it was just gone. I didn't get wind that anything was going on until I got that letter.
Starting point is 00:35:43 The Department of Justice tracked me down and that's when I found out. Because I never thought she would ever, you know, buy about it. She comes off like a really trustworthy person. So I didn't really think, that was on my head thinking like she's making this out, you know? I was not emotionally ready. August 25th, 2020, in the midst of the pandemic. I got out of like a call and I had emails from Department of Justice, I had emails from family who had emails from Department of Justice
Starting point is 00:36:11 and I had text messages because most of my close friends had given it some point so they were contacted. I was home babysitting and one of the parents the one that donated $100. and one of the parents, the one that donated $100. She's called me. She says, Mahasti, I got this email from the Sturker Trunny about Amanda Riley. I was like, wait, what? Like, this is crazy. Like, tell me this is not true. Like, this is nuts. I received a victim's notification from the Department of Justice.
Starting point is 00:36:47 I opened up that email and read that she was being investigated. It was shocking to say the least. I was shook. Amanda took the blog down. She hit me with the restraining order and that went on for six months, and then she was indicted. Scamanda is hosted and produced by Meanie Charlie Webster and produced by Jackson MacLennan. Amanda's blog posts are read by actor Kendall Horn, edit and
Starting point is 00:37:26 theme music by Nico Pellele, assistant producer Casey Hertz, assistant editor Seema Greywall, additional production support from Steven Sletton, Will Hagle and Nicole Irwin, executive produced by me Charlie Webster and Nancy Moskotello. Scamander is a Lionsgate Sound Production engineered by Pilgrim Media Group.

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