Scamfluencers - ENCORE: Superstar Sports Scammer | Part II

Episode Date: September 18, 2023

In the finale to this two-part series, which originally aired last fall, Alex Guerrero comes under scrutiny from the FTC, but Tom Brady stands by his business partner. Together, they open a s...ports center, publish a book, and promote their own brand of supplements. But as their popularity grows, some of their most troubling beliefs will come to light.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, Prime members, you can listen to scamfluencers early and add free on Amazon Music. Download the app today. This is part two of our two-part series, Superstar Sports Gamer. If you haven't listened to the first episode yet, you might be a little lost. I highly recommend you go back and do so. Oh, and a quick note, we're continuing the story with our guest host, Emil Niazi, a writer whose work you may have read
Starting point is 00:00:30 in places like the New York Times, the Guardian, Buzzfeed, and the Cut. She is so funny and a very dear friend of mine, Sachi will be back next week. Emil, I have a question for you. Have you ever been at a job you know you should quit, but for whatever reason you just stick it out for way longer than you probably should.
Starting point is 00:00:52 Pretty much every job I've ever had, I should have quit and I just stayed way too long. I just, I'm scared. Well, you might be able to relate to part two of the story because it's about perseverance, determination, and honestly, a pretty big case of not being able to read the room. It's about a guy who simply refuses to retire, and he'll do anything to prove he can still do his job, even when it becomes a little too toxic.
Starting point is 00:01:20 Sarah, since we started talking about this story, I have not been able to stop thinking about it, and I am so genuinely excited to see what happens. In January 2015, Tom Brady steps behind a podium to face a room full of reporters shouting questions at him. He's 37 years old, but he kind of looks like a little kid. I mean, he's wearing a new England Patriots beanie with a pom-pom, and for someone so accustomed to the spotlight, he seems quite nervous and unsure.
Starting point is 00:01:53 He points at the first reporter who asks, when it comes to the walls, when it's out, you're supposedly onto the walls. Tom Brady should be talking about the Super Bowl. It's only 10 days away, but instead, he's answering questions about a scandal that's about to consume the NFL. So here's what the scandal is.
Starting point is 00:02:15 He's been accused of purposely underinflating footballs, which is in violation of league rules. His opponent states cheating because it gives him an advantage. He prefers a grip of softer balls. Yes, softer balls. Unsurprisingly, the media has a feel-day with it. Did they? Or didn't they? It's the alleged cheating scandal launching a thousand saucy headlines to flake gate. And it wasn't just headlines. There were so many puns and so much innuendo, it was relentless. So, I mean, they put the ball sack on the sideline and officials should be watching it.
Starting point is 00:02:50 People from the NFL should be watching the ball sack. It's even parodied on SNL. Son, we live in a world that has balls. And those balls have to be inflated by men with pumps. I remembered to flake gate. I don't know anything about pumps. I remember deflate gate. I don't know anything about football. I don't watch the Super Bowl outside the halftime, but I remember my life just being taken over by news of Tom Brady's balls.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Well, I know it seems very funny, but to Tom, this isn't a joke. Just days after the accusations come to light, the Patriots head coach Bill Belichek speaks to the media about it. Football's are something that he can talk about in much better detail than I could possibly provide. Yeah, his own coach refuses to stick up for him. So now Tom is on his own, no coach to defend him, so he decides to go in front of the press himself to answer questions about balls, which he does for more than 30 minutes.
Starting point is 00:03:51 You know, I didn't hold to the ball in any way. I had a process that I go through before every game where I go in and I picked the balls that I want to use for the game. At that point, you know, it's a me, they're perfect. I don't want anyone touching the balls after that. I don't want anyone rubbing them, you know, putting in the air and I'm taking the air out. To me, those balls are perfect and that's what I expect
Starting point is 00:04:15 when I show it on the field. And there's one response that immediately becomes a sound bite. So can you answer right now? It's Tom Brady, too. Yeah. I don't believe so. So can you answer right now? It's Tom Brady cheered. I don't believe so. And by the way, the Patriots win the Super Bowl. And Tom's name, the Super Bowl MVP.
Starting point is 00:04:34 But deflategate won't go away, and it actually really tarnishes his reputation and causes a rift between him and his head coach. It also prompts some journalists to start digging into the backstory of Tom and his personal guru. And the next thing coming, it won't be a cheap shot, because under a new, harsher spotlight, some of Tom's most troubling beliefs will be exposed for all to see.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Hello, I'm Hannah. And I'm Suryte. And we are the hosts of a Red Handed, a weekly true crime podcast. Every week on Red Handed, we yet stuck into the most talked about cases. But we also dig into those you might not have heard of, like the Nephiles Royal Massacre and the Nithory Child Sacrifices. Whatever the case, we want to know what pushes people to the extremes of human behaviour. Find, download, and binge-read-handed wherever you listen to your podcasts. I'm Rob Briden and welcome to my podcast, Briden and we are now in our third series. Among those still to come is some Michael Paling, the comedy duo Egg and Robbie Williams.
Starting point is 00:05:48 The list goes on. So do sit back and enjoy. Brighten and on Amazon Music, Wondery Plus or wherever you get your podcasts. From Wondery, we're going to be doing a lot of work. We're going to be doing a lot of work. From Wondry, I'm Sarah Haggi, and I'm a meal Niazi, and this is Scanploinzers. In our last episode, we saw how Alex Guerrero, a gifted personal trainer with a snake oil
Starting point is 00:06:27 streak, teamed up with NFL superstar Tom Brady. Now, with his grew out of sight, Tom appears to start questioning the system that took him to the top, and he becomes convinced he can do the impossible. Play championship-level football well into his 40s. He's out to secure the legacy, not of a team or franchise, but of one man. This is superstar sports scamer, Part 2. In May 2015, a few months after Tom's press conference, an investigator hired by the NFL finds that Tom was probably
Starting point is 00:07:04 at least generally aware of inappropriate activities surrounding deflate game. The leak issues Tom a four-game suspension and finds a Patriots $1 million. The Patriots deny the investigator's findings, calling them incomplete and incorrect at best, and Tom adamantly objects to them. He actually appeals the decision in federal court in September, a judge overturns his suspension. Then a fell immediately appeals that decision, but for now, Tom can keep playing while the court battle rages on.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Then, a month later, another explosion shakes up Patriots Nation. Boston Magazine drops a bombshell article. Amel, can you please read us the headline? Tom Brady's personal guru is a glorified snake oil salesman. This really feels like, after years of escaping the spotlight and real scrutiny, the foundations of his little pyramid scheme are starting to fall.
Starting point is 00:08:03 I know, I mean, at this point, it's been years and someone's finally covering it. The article written by journalist Chris Sweeney exposes Alex Guerrero's past. Like the fact that the FTC find him for calling himself a doctor when he isn't, and that the FTC also dinged him for promoting a drink, supreme greens,
Starting point is 00:08:23 that he claimed could prevent cancer and AIDS. And he lied about a study of terminal patients. It's the first time the public hears about Alex Guerrero's past, and all of these shady dealings, and it's pretty humiliating for Alex, and it puts Tom in a really rough spot. He could either put his team first and disavow Alex to avoid scandal, but on the other hand, Tom's just spent the offseason fighting a legal battle against the NFL with no help from the team.
Starting point is 00:08:52 So, Emile, what do you think he does? I think Tom Brady chooses Tom Brady and backs Alex. Exactly. Tom doesn't interview with Boston's WEEI radio station and goes on the defensive. He says he has tremendous belief in Alex and what he's accomplished over the last decade or so. And he also says that Alex has never been wrong. But the host of the show push back. They asked Tom how he can support someone who's been accused of quackery.
Starting point is 00:09:23 And Emil, can you please read Tom's response? He says, quote, when you say this sounds like quackery, well, there's a lot of things I see on a daily basis in Western medicine that I think, wow, why would they ever do that? That's crazy, it doesn't work. But that's just the way life is. I think a lot of things that are the norm
Starting point is 00:09:43 that are very systematic don't work. The hosts don't give up their line of questioning. They ask Tom about Alex's run-ins with federal regulators and Tom shrugs it off. He says those are all things that happened years ago and that there are a lot of gray areas. This is one of those things where even though it's Tom Brady and he doesn't need my help, I want to throw him a lifeline and just say, pal, give it up. Like this guy is doing stuff that's really, really bad. And now he's putting your whole legacy in danger. Yeah, and again, he defends Neurosafe, the sports drink that's marketed as a seat belt for your brain.
Starting point is 00:10:22 And he says he drank it himself before the FTC pulled it from shelves. You know, as a parent, I just think having Tom Brady's support behind something like that that is so not just wrong but dangerous. It really upset me because I think there must have been a lot of parents who bought that drink for their kids playing football, thinking that it was somehow going to protect them from the very real damages that those head injuries can cause. Well, this radio interview becomes huge news. And it's the first sign that Tom's starting to think outside the Patriot way, because now he's thinking about Tom's way.
Starting point is 00:10:59 And that will put him in the crosshairs of one of the most powerful coaches in the league. him in the crosshairs of one of the most powerful coaches in the league. About nine months later in July of 2016, the appeals court upholds Tom's suspension for deflate gate. At this point, Tom spent more than a year fighting an uphill legal battle. His only option would be to appeal to the Supreme Court. But Tom decides, enough is enough. He accepts his four game suspension. And Tom's pissed, fans are distraught, and the coaching staff has to scramble to salvage the beginning of the season. But one person has to have been
Starting point is 00:11:35 at least a little bit happy about the situation. Tom's back up, Jimmy Garoppolo. Jimmy is 25 years old with a rugged beard, hazel eyes, and dimples. He's a midwestern kid with an aw-shock's attitude who signed with the same agent as Tom. But for the last two years, while he's been tombrating his back up, Jimmy hasn't exactly been set up for success.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Tom doesn't see it as his job to train his replacement. He's even ice Jimmy out when he outperforms him in practice. Poor Jimmy, I know. But now, with Tom ordered to the bench, Jimmy's finally getting the chance to start his quarterback for the New England Patriots. Jimmy's seen as a super talented rising star in the NFL and his head coach, Bill Belichek, believes in him.
Starting point is 00:12:21 But seeing Jimmy position himself as a future of the Patriots franchise is Tom's worst nightmare. Except he isn't there to see it. He's in Italy, sunbathing in the nude with his wife, Supermodel Giselle Bunchan. If I was Jimmy, this would be the most frustrating part, is like, just go live your beautiful life, move on. There's more to life than football. Well, unfortunately for Jimmy, in his second game, he's knocked out with a shoulder injury.
Starting point is 00:12:48 So later that week, he decides to do what tons of Patriots starters do. He seeks treatment at TV12, Tom and Alex's Sports Therapy Center, which is just across the street from Gillette Stadium. But when Jimmy shows up for his appointment, it's locked. No, no, he's getting iced out by Alex and Tom. This is every person's worst nightmare at work.
Starting point is 00:13:10 I know, and Jimmy calls a few of the trainers, but no one picks up. It takes a phone call from a Patriots operations employee days later to get Jimmy into the TB12 building. And by the way, this is all according to ESPN's Seth Wickersham. He's been covering the Patri-12 building, and by the way, this is all according to ESPN's Seth Wickersham. He's been covering the Patriots since 2001 and literally wrote the book about all this
Starting point is 00:13:31 behind the scenes drama. Jimmy denies the account when it's made public, and Tom and Alex deny it too, or at least that Jimmy was intentionally locked out of the building. But either way, the message is clear. There's only room for one starting quarterback in New England, and that's Tom Brady. But Jimmy isn't the only player getting mixed up in this epic standoff between TB12 and everyone else. Tom Brady comes back from suspension in October 2016.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Just four months later, he leads the Patriots to a remarkable Super Bowl victory at age 39. But one of his teammates, Rob Grinkowski, has to watch a Super Bowl from the sidelines. He injured his back, and now he has to have surgery. Rob, or as the sports world knows him,
Starting point is 00:14:18 Gronk, plays tight end, which is basically a jumbo-sized receiver. He's enormous, six foot' and 265 pounds, and he's got a big smile, a huge jawline, and a party animal reputation. Just a few months earlier, Groanke took over and a region cruise to the Bahamas, and packed it with 700 rappers, DJs, comedians, and fans who paid to party with him, and his dad and three siblings. People just seem to love him. Who wouldn't love a guy called Gronk? I know, but
Starting point is 00:14:50 despite how Carefree Gronk seems, he's taken a beating in his career. He's had four back surgeries, four forearm surgeries, one knee surgery, and one ankle surgery, all before the age of 30. Injuries have kept him from playing a full season for years now. So now, in the spring of 2017, he's considering retirement. Tom does not want Groanke to retire. Groanke's one of the best tight ends in the history of the NFL.
Starting point is 00:15:19 Together, they scored an insane number of touchdowns and he's a great teammate. They're bros. So with Tom's encouragement, Groanck decides to hold off on retiring and try something different in the off season. Amel, any guesses as to what he does? No, I don't know this man,
Starting point is 00:15:37 and I'm suddenly feeling so protective of our Groanck. Don't tell me that he's about to start trading at 2B12. Oh, he starts training with Alex Guerrero. He gets vigorous massages in an effort to achieve pliability. Remember, that's Alex's theory that long-lean muscles are more durable than thick dense ones. And Grohnk also starts eating like Tom, an alkaline diet that's all about eating
Starting point is 00:16:00 organic and avoiding sugar and nightshades. Come on. Now Grohnk, our party animal, who probably loves throwing back a tequila and a bag of tomatoes, has to suddenly stop eating nightshades. You're telling me this, meat and potatoes man can't eat potatoes? That's like telling Shrek,
Starting point is 00:16:19 he can't live in the swamp. Pfft. Pfft. So when Gronk shows up to training camp in the summer, he tells the team that he's going to follow Alex's instructions on how to train. But Balochek is pissed. He thinks a Patriot's medical staff know what's best for Groang. Fed up, Balochek actually yells at Groang for choosing TB12 over team docs in front of
Starting point is 00:16:40 the whole team. Groang is probably fuming, but he doesn't back down. He says he's sticking with Alex. It's actually kind of the last straw for Belicek. Groanck may have won this battle, but in the showdown between TB12 and the Patriots, Belicek is determined to win the war. In September of 2017, Tom and Alex published the TB12 method book with Simon and Schuster,
Starting point is 00:17:10 and it's an immediate success. It hits the number one spot in the advice category of the New York Times bestseller list, and the cover, well, Emil, you've got to look at this. I mean, it sort of looks like a sports magazine. You've seen them on the new stands, but it's a close up of Tom Brady's beautiful face. And the sort of subtitle is, how to achieve a lifetime of sustained peak performance. And you're just thinking,
Starting point is 00:17:40 oh my God, this man wants to live forever and actually thinks that he can because of Alex Guerrero. Well, you might also notice that Tom Brady is credited as an author of the book, but when he and Alex give interviews about it later, they call it their book, as in they wrote it together. And it has some recipes, workout ideas, and some real wacko statements, like suggesting that if you drink enough water,
Starting point is 00:18:05 you won't get sunburned. The idea that you could drink enough water to not get sunburned is shocking stuff. The book is part of the growing TB12 branded ecosystem. They've expanded to newsletters, workout videos, brain games, exercise equipment, and protein supplements and snacks, and the company's goal has changed.
Starting point is 00:18:26 It used to be about accelerating injury or recovery and helping athletes play longer. And now they say they want to redefine strength, health, and wellness for an entire generation. This is why ambition is bad. Alex Guerrero couldn't just be satisfied with building a couple of high profile athletes. Now he's got to change wellness for everybody.
Starting point is 00:18:49 I agree. I mean, deal with Tom. Tom is your cash cow. Yeah. He will support you forever. Like, why expand it and open yourself up to the world? Like, what kind of arrogance is that? Flu too close to the sun. And Belichek notices that the popularity of TB12 among Patriots players is creating weird power dynamics, especially for new players.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Tom is such a legend already that a lot of younger players call him Sir, and some of a guys Tom appears to throw the football to the most, like Gronk, are TB12 guys. So for players trying to get Tom's attention on the field, they figure they might need to gain favor with him off the field by going to TB12. Some of them feel like seeing Alex could literally make or break their careers. This is awful. This is so bad.
Starting point is 00:19:39 It's really wild that he's become like this mob boss of his team. And to be fair, not all Patriots players want to go to TV 12. But they tell Patriots staff that they feel pressure to go anyway. According to SPN, one player goes to TV 12 for treatment. But he's worried that Alex's famously intense massages might keep his legs from healing right.
Starting point is 00:20:01 So he asks Alex to focus on his arms. Another player says that team trainers want him to do squats, but Alex wants him to avoid lifting weights. And some players are just turned off by how strict the TB12 method is, especially the diet. And the media takes notice. One Fox Sports analyst even compares TB12 to a cult. Meanwhile, Seth Wickersham, the ESPN reporter who broke the story about the whole
Starting point is 00:20:26 scandal says, I think that all the issues have started around Brady and his trainer and body coach and business partner Alex Guerrero. And I think that they're severe distrust in the building. But Balochek wants to regain control. So he calls Tom in for a meeting to discuss this pressure to join TV12. And Tom's all, what pressure? At least that's what an anonymous source told ESPN. So Bill takes the next step and revokes Alex's access entirely, no more office at the stadium, no more access to the sidelines during games,
Starting point is 00:21:01 and the trips on the team jet, forget about it. Now Alex is only allowed to treat Tom Brady the sidelines during games, and the trips on the team jet forget about it. Now Alex is only allowed to treat Tom Brady in a private room at the stadium. If you're Bella Check, this is an impossible position to be in. I would just basically have him banned from everywhere my players are. Alex texts the players he's seeing, making it sound like Bill is refusing to let them train at TV12, which isn't true. And Patriot's staff feel like this was a strategic move to drive a wedge between Bela Check and
Starting point is 00:21:31 the players. They call him Yoko Guerrero. Tension is building inside the Patriot's organization. With Tom and Bela Check at odds, there's only one man who can settle the score. He's gonna have to make the final call, citing either with a legendary coach or a once in a lifetime player. Ghost Sound Reel At least is a journalist, that's what I've always believed. Sure, odd things happen in my childhood bedroom, but ultimately, I shrugged it all off. That is, until a couple of years ago, when I discovered that every subsequent occupant of that house is convinced they've experienced something inexplicable too. Including the most recent inhabitant who says she was visited at night by the ghost of a faceless woman. And it gets even stranger.
Starting point is 00:22:19 It just so happens that the alleged ghost haunted my childhood room might just be my wife's great-grandmother. Who was murdered in the house next door by two gunshots to the face. From wandering Pineapple Street Studios comes Ghost Story, a podcast about family secrets overwhelming coincidence and the things that come back to haunt us. Follow Ghost Story on the wandering app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free right now by joining Wondery Plus. Emily, do you remember when Wondirection called it a day? I think you'll find there are still many people who can't talk about it.
Starting point is 00:22:56 Well luckily, we can. A lot, because our new season of terribly famous is all about the first Wondirectioner to go it alone. Zayn Malik We'll take you on Zayn's journey from Shilad from Bradford to being in the world's biggest boy band and explore why when he reached the top, he decided to walk away. Follow terribly famous wherever you get your podcasts. And I feel like a... Bob Crap is 76 years old. He was raised in a working class Orthodox Jewish family outside of Boston and made his fortune
Starting point is 00:23:35 and paper and packaging. More than two decades ago, he bought the New England Patriots for $172 million. Under his ownership, the Patriots went from League Punching Bag to epic, unprecedented dynasty. He hand-picked Bill Belcheck as coach, and he often refers to Tom Brady as his fifth son. But now, in the 2017 season, that dynasty has come to a turbulent crossroads. Tom's contract is expiring in the next two years.
Starting point is 00:24:06 He wants to play for the Patriots, but he is 40 years old now. And Bell Check wants to start playing Jimmy Garoppolo, the hot young quarterback he drafted. Meanwhile, Bob Crapp wants to keep peace between two men he considers family. What's a billionaire to do? Oh gosh. I mean, it seems so cut and dry to me if there just is like, two men he considers family. What's a billionaire to do? Oh gosh. I mean, it seems so cut and dry to me
Starting point is 00:24:26 if there just is like no gray area in this for me. I would just fire Tom Brady. I would be like, move on with your life, go live in your mansion. It's time for Jimmy Garoppolo to take the stage. Well, Kraft is actually leaning one way. After his wife died a few years back, he let his white hair grow out,
Starting point is 00:24:47 and he started wearing suits with no ties and pairing them with Air Force ones, and he's dating a 38-year-old actress and shows up on TMZ. He's in his golden years and he's having fun. Just like Tom. Tom's cool and exciting. So Kraft makes it clear that he's sticking with Tom.
Starting point is 00:25:07 And he tells Belichek to trade Jimmy Garoppolo. Belichek is furious. So, he shoots off a text to the head coach of the San Francisco 49ers. And when that coach gives him a call, Belichek trades Jimmy Garoppolo, one of the most promising young quarterbacks in the NFL to the 49ers for a second round pick. Okay, as I mentioned, I don't know anything about football. So is that good? Is that bad? Is he angry?
Starting point is 00:25:35 Well, the consensus in the NFL is that this was a very not great trade. Basically, Bellicek was reportedly so mad at being overruled. He orchestrated a trade that was super lopsided in favor of the 49ers and really bad for the Patriots. It's like he's cutting off his own nose to spite his face. And it's totally uncharacteristic of Belicech, who is the ultimate team first guy. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:01 He was heated. He did something to undermine his own team because he was so upset. And that does seem very out of character for this man whom I know nothing about given everything that you've just told me. Yeah, I mean, we'll never know what he was really thinking, but it's clear that something unprecedented
Starting point is 00:26:20 is going on with the Patriots this season. But it isn't over yet. This feud is about to be exposed, making the conflict between Tom, his coach, and his guru, Front Page News. Despite the behind-the-scenes drama, the Patriots cruise to the playoffs. But a week before their first playoff game in January 2018, they wake up to an explosive article on ESPN.com. It's written by Seth Wickersham. It gets into Alex's shady past, the locker room tension around TV12, and craft overruling Belicek on the Jimmy G trade. It's a damning portrait of the power struggle between craft, bellichek, and their star player.
Starting point is 00:27:05 The article asks, is this beginning of the end? The response is immediate. The Patriots' workplace drama gets plastered all over the headlines, and the person taking the brunt of the media scorn is Tom. Alex is officially making Tom look bad. The Patriots are trying to focus on the playoffs, but the new cycle is so vicious and so damning that they're forced to respond.
Starting point is 00:27:31 The same warning the article comes out. The team puts out a statement saying the team's owner, it's head coach and it's quarterback all-stand united. And Tom takes the defense step further, going on Boston's WEI to deny everything and the article. Again, it's hard to even answer those questions.
Starting point is 00:27:49 It's so far from any truth that I know or any characterization of my relationship with my teammates. Again, I think this speaks just to someone, whether it's the writer himself or, you know, whoever he spoke to, what, you know, agenda they may have, you know, in painting some type of picture. This isn't the first article that's come out about Alex and his sort of shady practices, and I'm just wondering how many of these exposés is it going to take for people to start really looking at Alex as the scammer that he is, and more specifically for Tom to start realizing that Alex is bad for his brand.
Starting point is 00:28:35 Yeah, I mean, it is weird to me that he's like, all these people have an agenda, but not Alex. Yeah, but even as a Patriots win two playoff games and make it to the Super Bowl. Bill's comments to the media suggest there's some truth in the reporting. After a playoff game, Bill declines to praise Brady's performance, saying, Tom did a great job and he's a tough guy. We're not talking about open heart surgery here. Boom! I mean, if my coach said that about me, I would quit football right there and then.
Starting point is 00:29:08 That's like the kind of thing you say to someone who you know is, like, good at what they do, but you're like, who freaking cares? Yeah, big whoop. Well, the Patriots go on to lose to the Eagles in the Super Bowl, and that's when everything really cracks open. the Eagles and the Super Bowl, and that's when everything really cracks open. After the Super Bowl lost and yet another Belechek burn, Tom's demoralized. He might be the greatest quarterback of all time, but he can't even get the respect of
Starting point is 00:29:38 his head coach. So Tom asks Team owner Bob Kraft if he could be released from the last two years of his contract, and Bob says no. Tom asks team owner Bob Kraft if he could be released from the last two years of his contract. And Bob says no. Tom could demand to be released, but he'd risk losing his massive fan base and tarnishing the TB 12 brand. And TB 12 is just about to open a new two story,
Starting point is 00:29:59 10,000 square foot flagship location in Boston across the street from the Boston Public Library. Going back to the cult comparison, you have to wonder how Tom Brady doesn't see what's right in front of him. Like so many people that you would think he trusts and respects who have helped him throughout his career like Bella Check
Starting point is 00:30:20 are sort of raising these red flags and he's just refusing to acknowledge them. Yeah, and the common denominator here is Alex. Alex, the tone inside the Patriots organization has shifted. Bellishx camp and Tom's camp appear to start staking out opposite corners. Here's Tom in an interview with ESPN Sportscaster Jim Gray just months after the Super Bowl loss. And so when Giselle says feel appreciated, this brings to mind coach Bella check and Mr. Kraft, do you feel appreciated by them and do they have the appropriate gratitude for what
Starting point is 00:30:58 you have achieved? I plead the Sess. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha not Bill Belichek. So Tom gives him an ultimatum, allow Alex Guerrero back into the facility or Tom will walk. Belichek agrees as long as Alex doesn't interfere with any other players. It's a temporary choice, and for a short time, it works. The Patriots return to the Super Bowl in 2019 and beat the LA Rams, and at 41,
Starting point is 00:31:43 Tom becomes the oldest quarterback ever to win a Super Bowl and the first player ever to win six Super Bowls. And this is where I go right you can ignore red flags as long as you're winning and you're achieving results and you're doing something that achieving results and you're doing something that forget football. Most athletes do not compete at that level past the age of 3035. So it is pretty remarkable what he's managed to do. Yeah, I mean, it is undeniably remarkable, but playing for Bill Balecheck is an ego-swallowing grind. And after 18 years, it's probably getting a bit old. So Tom skips voluntary practices. He spends a spring skiing, cliff diving, and going to Disneyland with his family. And that fall, he returns, reluctantly, to play another season for the Patriots. His buddy, Gronk, retired in the off season. And though the season gets off to a great start, Tom is miserable.
Starting point is 00:32:42 He can't help but feel that despite his unparalleled success, he just isn't welcome in New England anymore. Tom makes news when he and Alex both put their houses up for sale within a month of each other. The Patriots make the playoffs, but the 2019 season and Tom Brady's career at New England ends with a whimper. A loss at home to the Tennessee Titans. The sports world knows Tom's contract is up, and that this is the end of an era. Here's what the announcer say at the end of his final game. I just want to see the reaction here
Starting point is 00:33:16 as Brady walks off the field. Will you ever step foot on Gillette to the again? Greatest career ever. Combination of him in Bill Bellicic unmatched before hideout. You'll ever see it again. A few weeks later, Tom officially announces that after 20 seasons of almost uninterrupted dominance, he won't be returning to play for New England. He's quitting the Patriots, but he's not quitting football. At the age of 42, he's gonna find a new team
Starting point is 00:33:50 to try and prove that Bella check is wrong and that he and Alex are right. In March 2020, Tom Brady signs with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And the only thing that's bigger in use in Tom Brady switching sides is COVID-19. Tom and Alex lean into this moment of uncertainty. Just as the world is shutting down, TV 12 releases protect.
Starting point is 00:34:17 It's marketed as an immunity blend supplement created to support a healthy immune system to help you stay strong. And it has ingredients like vitamin C, zinc, and elderberry. Isn't it so wild that they're like hmm, we're all to shut down and indistress at this unprecedented time. Let's create a little multivitory. How can I make money off this?? Well it's only $45 for a 30-day supply. Tom steps outside into a beautiful garden on a sunny day to promote it on Instagram. We're in a tough moment but I know we can overcome it and just taking some of these small steps
Starting point is 00:34:58 can really make a huge difference in your life. A lot of celebrities during that initial beginning phase of COVID were out in their beautiful gardens, sort of convincing all of us that we could get through this together and that their lives and our lives were the same. And that video just took me right back to that and how incredibly well it convinced me that our lives are so, so different,
Starting point is 00:35:26 and we'll never be the same, and no vitamin can bridge that divide. Yeah, I mean, at the time, people didn't know a ton about COVID, but it's like, this is what you're doing. Forbes calls it unethical and misleading. The Boston Globe called this blatant cash grab, something bordering on wartime
Starting point is 00:35:45 profiteering. And on that decidedly sour note, Tom heads down to Tampa to play for a rag-tag group of underdogs and see if he really still has what it takes. And of course, the move has a strategic business angle. Winning is good for Tom's brand. But Bill Belichack can only watch as a superstar he molded go south and plays for a rival team. Now, everyone's waiting to see if Tom is about to fall off a cliff or if he can still play world-class football at 43 years old. Boss. Boss Legacy returns, now streaming. Matt has been taken.
Starting point is 00:36:30 Oh God. His daughter. He's in the hands of a madman. What are the police have been looking for me? But nothing can stop a father. We want to find her just as much as you do. I doubt that very much. From doing what the law can't. And we have to do this the very way.
Starting point is 00:36:47 You have to. I don't. Bosch Legacy. Watch the new season, now streaming exclusively on FreeV. And I feel like a... Like a... In August, just before the start of the 2020 it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get Gronk, Brady's favorite receiver and a TB12 acolyte comes out of retirement to play for the Bucks. And they're like a dream team.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Tom Brady leads the Buccaneers to a wildcard playoff spot and the Bucks make it to the Super Bowl for the first time in almost two decades. You can just imagine told in a different way with like really inspiring music in the background. This is like a total comeback story. This is for all the people like me, 39-year-olds who are thinking, man, will I ever have a shot at the big time, even though I'm this age,
Starting point is 00:38:01 and Tom Brady and Groan are proving that you can. And it's just, if it wasn't for that dang Alex. This is almost like a feel good story. Yeah, it's almost a feel good story. If like it didn't involve Alex Guerrero and Tom Brady had like an entirely different personality and demeanor. Yes, yeah. If a lot of the details were different, but it's just funny, because I'm
Starting point is 00:38:22 strangely rooting for him right now. Oh, come on. Don't go there now. Too far, too far. As the oldest player in the NFL, Tom leads the team to victory. Only 25,000 fans attend due to COVID restrictions, but the whole world tunes in to see Tom Brady defy his haters and father time by taking a new team all the way to the top. Tom is named the NFL's most valuable player for a record extending 5th time.
Starting point is 00:38:52 He's also got more Super Bowl wins as an individual player than any single NFL franchise. That is genuinely incredible. And I am a little bit like, wow, he did it. I can't believe he did. I really did not see that coming. I assumed he was gonna tank it when he went to Tampa Bay. This is an incredible story, right?
Starting point is 00:39:14 And Tom succeeded with Alex right by his side. It's validation of every insane diet he's promoted, all the vigorous massages, and every time he went to the mat for Alex. Tom tried to stick it out in a brutally thankless New England system, but now that he's cut loose, he sees no downside in looking out for number one, or in his case, number 12. The Bucks were totally fine with it. They even gave Alex his own Super Bowl ring, to match the one he already has from the
Starting point is 00:39:44 Patriots last Super Bowl ring to match the one he already has from the Patriots last Super Bowl win. Ew, he gets his own ring too. He didn't do anything. We are as qualified as Alex to give vigorous massages. 100%. And now that their world champions again, nothing can stop Tom and Alex from their mission, turning their TB12 method into a global movement and becoming even more filthy rich along the way.
Starting point is 00:40:12 After all that, Tom Brady announces his retirement in February 2022. Hang it up, the goat is done. Just kidding. 40 days later, Tom announces he's unretiring. This season, Tom's 45 years old and still playing top-tier football in the NFL. I mean, you know, Kudos to him for still having the energy and stamina to play at that level at his age, but take a page from Serena Williams' playbook and retire with grace and do it once and move on with your life. Well, to be fair, he is also staying busy off the field. Tom and his wife, Jizal, are shareholders in a crypto trading exchange called FTX and Brady co-founded Autograph and NFT platform. He also launched his own ATHLEASURE brand, Brady,
Starting point is 00:41:06 where a running shirt will cost you $75. Well, that's good. I mean, he's finding other ways to scam people that aren't just selling supplements. Oh, and he signed a 10-year $375 million contract with Fox Sports to be a lead analyst whenever he finally actually retires. So we'll be seeing Tom Brady and maybe Alex Rarrow too for the rest of our lives.
Starting point is 00:41:36 Well, Emil, this story has all the drama of a Greek tragedy. Where should we start? What a tale. And I think what's interesting is that the beginning, you know, I really saw Tom Brady as not a victim, obviously, but a little bit more pliable if I can use one of Alex Guerrero's own words. And then you just sort of see this turn where the narcissism or that single-mindedness to achieve and to when it turns him into
Starting point is 00:42:07 into a scammer and seeing his sort of willful support of Alex despite all of these people like Bill Bellicek telling him, you know, he should probably part ways. Makes me think so differently of him and everything that he's accomplished because it's just tarnish now in my eyes. Here's a thing that kind of trips me up. Anyone can look at Tom Brady's success and be like, well, it worked for him. It's like kind of this by any means necessary view of success.
Starting point is 00:42:38 What I think it is is that there's been diet gurus for women since time immemorial, but there are so few men who openly talk about what they eat, what they don't eat, talk about aging in this way to this level and at his platform. And I think that that actually makes this relationship so much more dangerous because this is kind of the guy that men look to and what he's espousing is so cuckoo. Yeah, and you know what? There are people I know who see something like,
Starting point is 00:43:15 well, you know what, if it's good enough for Tom Brady who's the greatest football player to have ever existed, like, what, it's gonna hurt me kind of thing. Honestly, even myself, and I'm, I can't believe I'm admitting this, but I did hear that Tom Brady does need nightshades, does need tomatoes. And at the time, I was like, oh man, if Tom Brady does need tomatoes,
Starting point is 00:43:36 should I stop eating to, like, that's how much of an influence he can have on people. This wouldn't have worked if Tom Brady wasn't such an amazing athlete and so good at his job. And that's the shield that Alex will always have. That Tom Brady is 45 years old and still able to play football. Yeah, at any point in this story, if Tom Brady had lost, then Alex would be exposed for a fraud. But because Tom Brady is so good at what he does, Alex is allowed
Starting point is 00:44:06 to keep on scamming. Yeah. Amul, having heard all of this, what is your takeaway from this story? I mean, my personal takeaway is, as someone who is kind of at that age, where you're starting to think a bit more about your mortality and where your life is going, I just think it's okay to age, it's okay to accept that you are aging and that that means a bunch of different things for your body, for your lifestyle, for your family, but it's okay, it's good. We live in a society where it's really like
Starting point is 00:44:46 frowned upon to age publicly, to have gray hair, to have wrinkles, you know, and I think that is how a lot of people do allow themselves to be taken advantage of or to be manipulated because they're so scared of what aging means for their place in society. And I think that we need to obviously address that. Yeah, I mean, I think the lesson here is,
Starting point is 00:45:09 it's okay to get old. Yeah, getting old is great. You don't give any apps. You hopefully have a little bit more security and confidence and maybe the Tom Brady lesson is that he's more insecure than any of us imagined. Wow, that's it. That's a ticket of meal. Hey, Prime members, you can listen to ScanFluencers add free on Amazon Music.
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