Scamfluencers - ENCORE: The Billionaire Gucci Master | Part 2

Episode Date: July 3, 2023

In the finale to this two-part series, which originally aired last summer, Hushpuppi expands his business with new partnerships, including with the North Korean cyber criminals who hacked int...o Sony. He’s becoming one of the most elite Internet scammers in the world, and he’s well on his way to pulling off a massive, multi-million dollar money laundering scheme… If only he could stop posting about it on the gram.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, prime members, you can listen to scam influencers ad-free on Amazon music. Download the app today. Okay, Satchie, I do have a serious question for you before we begin. I need to be honest. All right. Has anyone ever snitched on you about something? Slash? Have you been a snitch? Anyone ever snitched on you about something, slash, have you been a snitch? No, snitches get stitches, and so if anybody has ever snitched on me, they are dead now.
Starting point is 00:00:31 Okay, so I want you to imagine you're doing something super illegal, and one of your partners in crime, squeals on you, to the same person, you are scamming out of money. That would be upsetting and confusing, I think. So that's actually what happens to Hush Puppy in early 2020. And at this point, Hush Puppy is now one of the most elite cyber scammers in the world.
Starting point is 00:00:55 So he has a lot to lose. Hush Puppy is at home in Dubai when he finds out one of his scam partners, Vincent Kelly Chabuzo has pulled a double cross. Hush Puppy and his other partner, Jama, are pumping their mark a business person in the US for as much money as they can. But Vincent has been trying to get the mark to pay him instead.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Okay, and this is the business person who wants to build a school in Qatar, right? And he thinks Jama and Hush Puppy can get him alone. Yeah, that's exactly it. And Hush Puppy is furious. After everything he's done for Vincent, how dare he go behind his back. Hush Puppy pulls up his own Instagram profile and picks a recent photo. It's one of him in his Versace penthouse, wearing the rich and meal watch worth
Starting point is 00:01:43 230K, which he bought with the money from the Katari school scam. And he types out a caption. Do you wanna read it? Of course I do. One of the best things I learned that keeps me going is to never take criticism from people I'd never go too far advice.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Insofar as Pablo m'goes, it's pretty good Pablo. Absolutely. But he thinks passive aggressive captions, they're just not enough. So Hush Puppy pulls up Vincent's number and he starts typing a message and it's aggressive. That's more of my speed. Yeah, it's just like texting you. Hush Puppy, Tex of Vincent, telling him he's committed a crime that won't be forgiven. He says Vincent will regret messing with him and adds very soon, very, very soon, the
Starting point is 00:02:31 wrath of my hands shall find you and when it does, it will damage you forever. I love that. It's what I hope my real housewives tagline would be. So this is more than just a real housewives tagline or an empty threat. Hushpupby wants revenge. And he needs to be sure Vincent can't keep interfering in the scam. So he's about to call in a favor from one of the most powerful people in Nigeria. But in seeking revenge, Hushpupby will betray his past,
Starting point is 00:03:02 setting himself up for an international fall from grace. Every big moment starts out with a big dream, but what happens when that big dream turns out to be an even bigger failure? Each week on Wondery's new podcast The Big Flop, post Misha Brown is joined by comedians to chronicle some of the biggest blunders in pop culture history. Listen to the big flop on the Wondry app or wherever you get your podcasts. Mike Williams set off on a hunting trip in a North Florida lake, where it was thought he met his fate in the jaws of a vicious alligator, except that's not what happened. And after the uncovering of a secret love affair,
Starting point is 00:03:42 the truth would finally be revealed. Binge all episodes of Over My Dead Body Gone Hunting right now, Add Free, on One Drey Plus. From Wondery, I'm Sarah Hagi, and I'm Sachi Cole, and this is Scample Insers. And our last episode, we met the least subtle scammer, Ray Hushpupi Abbas. Hushpupi rose from Nigerian cybercafes to Versace Palaces by scamming businesses and people out of millions of dollars over email. And he washes that money by buying luxury outfits, expensive sneakers, and fancy cars, which he breaks about to his 2.8 million followers on Instagram. God, how did these people get so many followers in the first place?
Starting point is 00:04:32 Well, that's a whole other scam. But what Hush Puppy doesn't know is that at this very moment, his social accounts are being watched closely. And not just by gossip blogs trying to figure out what he does for a living, but by the FBI. And they are closing in fast. Hush Puppy's downfall involves fancy watches, North Korean hackers, and dirty cops. And it's cementous status as an unlikely folk hero. This is part two of billionaire Gucci Master.
Starting point is 00:05:04 It's January 2020. A man named Aba Kiari, the deputy commissioner of the Nigerian police force, is in his office. He's in his mid 40s and tall with a shaved head, and he has a habit of wearing AirPods at all times. And his office, it's kind of a shrine to himself. There are shelves lined with plaques and awards, several framed photos of him in uniform, and in the corner, there's even an oil painting of himself, of course. And to be fair, Abba has a lot to be proud of. He's the most decorated officer in the history
Starting point is 00:05:41 of the Nigerian police. And he's famous in Nigeria. The media there refers to him as a super cop. He's risen through the ranks to become deputy commissioner including many years managing SARS, the special anti-roberry squad. Okay wait, why does that sound familiar? It's the police force that went after the Yahoo boys. Abba made a name for himself by going after scammers and also kidnappers and band-growers. He's also become kind of a cop influencer, like tens of thousands of people follow him on Instagram, where he posts pictures of himself winning awards
Starting point is 00:06:16 and bragging about arrests and hanging out with celebrities. And one day, he picks up a call from a familiar number. A young Nigerian celebrity called, drum roll, Hush Puppy. Wait, okay, so how do they know each other? We actually don't know for sure, but about four months earlier in September 2019, Abba visited Dubai.
Starting point is 00:06:41 And while he was there, Hush Puppy loaned him a car and a driver. So they're friendly and the text back and forth, like, Abba sends Hush Puppy selfies and articles praising his accomplishments. It's kind of like your text to me, Sachi. And at one point, Hush Puppy texts him, and really happy to be your boy. I always love getting that text from you. Yeah. But Abba quickly realizes this isn't a normal social call. Hashpapi is pissed off and he's asking for a favor. He wants Abba to help him get revenge on Vincent,
Starting point is 00:07:17 the business partner who crossed him. So Hashpapi, the world's most successful Yahoo boy, is coming to the super cop to ask for help. Okay, this seems ill advised, but something tells me there's more to this than I know. Yeah, I mean, there's a reason why Hashpapi is going to Abba in the first place. And it's because this super cop is a super dirty cop.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Ah, for years, Abba's police teams have committed the same crimes they were supposed to be protecting Nigerian citizens against. I'm talking like obstruction, abduction, intimidation, and torture. Abbas forces have even been known to murder people and then clean out their bank accounts. It's truly disgusting. Yes.
Starting point is 00:08:00 But Abbas is like Teflon. Even though his awful tactics seemed to be an open secret in Nigeria, at this point he's never faced any consequences. And today, his boy Hushpuffy wants help locking up a fellow scammer. So after mulling it over, Abba says, yes, for a price. And just like that, Hushpuffy becomes a part of the same corrupt system that terrorized him as a young man. But little does he know, this is the move
Starting point is 00:08:28 that will bring down Nigeria's most crooked cop for good. A week later, Hush Puppy's phone buzzes with a new message. It's from Abba. It's a photo of Vincent in a jail cell. He looks miserable and exhausted. Abba made good on his promise to have Vincent arrested, and now that Vincent's behind bars, he can't interfere with Hush Puppy's scheme. But Hush Puppy isn't satisfied, so Hush decides to take it one step further. He texts Abba, I want him to go through serious beating of his life.
Starting point is 00:09:06 When Abba replies, ha ha ha ha, Hush puppy writes back, seriously sir. That is a very tense ha ha ha ha text. It's absolutely insane that this is all happening over text message. It's like, hey, let's just take our corruption another step further and I want you to beat this man and I also will have records of it on my phone.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Yeah, they really love to leave a paper trail I'm seeing. Considering how much Hushpupby should know about fraud and like online safety, it's crazy that there's a text trail of this. And you know what, that's not even the worst part. Hush Puppy follows up and offers to send Abba a big chunk of change. If he and his team make sure that Vincent suffers for many years, and Abba accepts the offer, he texts Hush Puppy a bank account number so he can deposit the cash. Later that day, Hush Puppy sees a new post from Abon Instagram. It's a super cop
Starting point is 00:10:10 standing next to a lectern surrounded by other Nigeria police force officers. They're at a press conference announcing the arrest of 60 kidnappers. Aba Stairs right into the camera, radiating pride. Oh, Jesus Christ. I know. So, Hush Puppy gets back to the Katari scam. Without Vincent there to mess things up, him and Jama manage to get hundreds of thousands of more dollars from the business person.
Starting point is 00:10:36 They eventually get 1.1 million dollars from the scheme, but by mid-February, the mark has started to catch on. They cut off communication with Jama, then Hush Puppy for good. While the scams unraveling, Abba messages to save Vincent has gotten sick and jail. He has a fever and a rash, and with the scheme winding down, Hush Puppy texts Abba,
Starting point is 00:10:58 saying that he'll forgive Vincent for the sake of God. He says Abba can release him, but keep all of his confiscated electronics. So Vincent is free, but Hushpuppey is proven that there's no honor among thieves. A few months after the Katari school scam fell apart, FBI agent Andrew John in Ascente is hunched over his desk in Los Angeles. He's scrolling through a mountain of digital data. After his team arrested Canadian cyber scammer,
Starting point is 00:11:28 Galeb Alumari late last year, Agent Innocendi has been focused on Galeb's associates, including an ostentatious influencer who calls himself Hashpupi. The FBI has to prove that Hashpupi is a man who worked with Galeb to target a maltees bank. So they request user data from Instagram. And once that rolls in, it confirms that Hashpuppey's account is associated with the same number Golebb
Starting point is 00:11:52 was communicating with. And the email used to start the account lists Palazzo Versace as its address. And recent logins are from an IP address in the United Arab Emirates. Okay, I feel like even I am harder to trace than this person, and I'm pretty online. I know, and once the FBI gets access to that email account, they find scans of tons of IDs Hush Puppy used. Real and fraudulent. Photos on those IDs match the charming half-smile
Starting point is 00:12:21 plastered all over Instagram. And the birthday matches up with several posts Hush Puppy makes celebrating his birthday with custom cakes from Gucci, Versace, and Fendi. Oh, and who could forget the video of his birthday party at Burberry? Remember this clip from Daddy Freeze's YouTube page? So it's Hush Puppy's birthday? I'm wearing a celebrate seat.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Happy to be tomorrow. How? How could I have forgotten? Well, evidence of Hashpupi's identity, his whereabouts, and his wealth is all over Instagram, and it doesn't take long for Agent Innocenti to connect the dots. But Hashpupi isn't the ultimate target of his investigation. The FBI has its sights set on the North Korean hackers, the ones who broke into Sony, and who helped golebb and Hushpuppie rip off the bank in Malta, right? So the FBI is approaching this like a mob case. Go after the lower status members like Hushpuppie and get them to flip. What their help, you get closer to the real bosses, which in this case,
Starting point is 00:13:20 is the North Korean hackers. And this is a massive operation. The FBI is working with the government of the UAE, the Dubai police force, the US secret service, and the Kenyan government. And I'm sorry, this is hilarious. This just proves that men are really like little boys forever. They're calling this investigation. Operation top dog. Jesus Christ, you can hear how proud they are of that name.
Starting point is 00:13:51 They are so proud. So Agent Innocenti decides it's time to bring Hashpapien to learn what he knows. So he calls his colleagues at the Dubai Police Department and gives them the green light. Just past midnight on June 8, 2020, Sekuru Adukoya, who goes by PAK, is flipping through the channels on TV. He's stretched out on a plush sofa in the penthouse of the Palazzo Versace. He doesn't live here, but he's visiting his childhood friend, Hush Puppy.
Starting point is 00:14:21 And he's known him long before he went by that nickname. PAK's beer is less bushy than Hashpapi's, and he's a bit more trim, but the two look like they belong together, just like they did growing up in suburban Lagos. As kids, they looked out for each other. When Hashpapi got suspended from school, he knew he could hide out at Pock's house.
Starting point is 00:14:40 And Pock gave Hashpapi his first pair of Nike's. So when Hashpapi moved away from Nigeria and got a major life glow up, he invited his friend to come to Dubai. Hoshpapi took Pock in and helped him look for work. But it's been hard for Pock to get a good job. And just when he was about to head back home, Pock got appendicitis.
Starting point is 00:15:02 Hoshpapi paid for his friend's medical care, of course. And then by the time Pock had recovered, the pandemic shut down all travel. So Pock's still here, crashing at Hoshpock's penthouse, waiting for his luck to change. Okay, well, if we're making a podcast about if something tells me it won't. Actually, they all live happily ever after,
Starting point is 00:15:22 and this is the end of the episode. And our show's done, we have no more stories to tell. Well, back to reality, suddenly, there's a loud thud at the front door. Pock jolt's up from the couch, just as a SWAT team rushes into the room. They're decked out in helmets and flack jackets, batons in hand. They grab Pock's phone out of his hand, motioned for him to get down on the floor. They tell him he's under arrest and they demand to know where Hushpup is.
Starting point is 00:15:52 They're yelling, where are his computers? Where's his money? Agent starts scouring the house, ripping drawers open and rifling through closets. Oh, wait, okay, so is this the raid from that wild ass police video? Yes, this is the exact raid and I think we could actually hear more of it here. In the operation police officers were also able to seize items worth more than 150 million dirums after they claimed 21 computers,
Starting point is 00:16:18 47 smartphones, 15 storage memory devices, and five hard disks containing data. And that comes out to over $40 million. The police run upstairs and return with the blirried Hashpuffy wearing a white t-shirt and green track pants. His hands are tied behind his back. Pock lays on the ground, face down, mind racing. He doesn't understand why this is happening to his friend. Does Pac know that Hush Puppy is a scammer?
Starting point is 00:16:49 Well, Pac swears he doesn't know that he thinks Hush Puppy made all of his money in real estate just like his Instagram bio says. So he and Hush Puppy are arrested, taken to police headquarters and jailed separately. Four days later, a Dubai prosecutor and FBI agents question Pock. He told them Hush Puppy was a businessman. He never even seen him use a laptop at the penthouse.
Starting point is 00:17:14 Pock knew Hush Puppy, the Nigerian boy who transcended poverty and was generous in his success. He never knew the international cyber criminal, but now the whole world is going to learn the truth about the billionaire Gucci master. All the influence in the world can't help push puppy now. After the raid, Hush Puppy is expelled from the United Arab Emirates, and his arrest is huge news in Nigeria. We begin what's trending with a viral video by the Dubai Police Department detailing a raid on a cybercrime gang led by Nigerian Instagram celebrity popularly known as Hush Puppy.
Starting point is 00:18:05 A few weeks after the Dubai police raid, the FBI files a criminal complaint against Hush Puppy, charging him with conspiracy to engage in money laundering. If convicted, Hush Puppy faces up to 20 years in prison. The FBI calls Hush Puppy a key player in a large transnational conspiracy. They accuse him of flaunting an opulent lifestyle while ripping people off all over the world, including victims in the US, which is how Hush Puppy ends up in a prison in downtown Chicago. His preliminary hearing is set for July 2, 2020.
Starting point is 00:18:40 Hush Puppy's first lawyer is a local Chicago attorney, Gael Pizetsky from a law firm called Pizetsky and Berliner. He's trim, bald, and wears round glasses, and he has a website where he calls himself a modern-day Perry Mason. You know, the righteous criminal defense attorney from the 1950s TV show, it's a very current reference. Oh, no. And Sasha, Gal has a sizzle reel.
Starting point is 00:19:06 He has a what? He has a sizzle reel, babe. Okay, we actually have to watch this. I have litigated hundreds of fourth, fifth, and sixth amendment motions in which law enforcement violated my client's constitutional rights. I'm Gal Pesetsvim, and I'm here to defend, protect, and fight for constitutional rights. I'm Galpy Setzwin and I'm here to defend, protect and fight for your rights. It looks like a trailer for like a new
Starting point is 00:19:35 law and order but for nerds. Well, Gal has a plan for Hashpapi. He tells him to plead not guilty and he starts talking to the media saying Hashpapi. He tells him to plead not guilty. And he starts talking to the media saying Hashpapi is a legit influencer. Gal tells Forbes that his client is quote, an Instagram personality. He was promoting brands, and that's how he was very legitimately making his money. Can you please read the rest of this quote, Sasha? I can. He has a social media influencer with millions of followers, with millions of people that respect and loved him. And he loved them, and that's what he did.
Starting point is 00:20:11 In today's society, that's a business. Oh, that is the darkest thing I've ever heard in my life. I mean, where's a lie? I guess. Love is a business. Ugh, Christ. Well, Gals says the US government is just trying to make an example of him.
Starting point is 00:20:27 They know that this will be reported in headlines, especially around the world, and they knew that people that engage in B.C. schemes, especially from Nigeria, I think, will hear it, and will know that the United States will go after you and they will punish you. But this approach, gotta say, it doesn't seem like a great move.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Gal also admits that he is not a hundred percent familiar with social media and his children consider him too old. But he says he knows that's how people make money today. Okay, so that's not really what you want to hear from the person who's going to like get you out of jail and his entire defense hinges on being social media savvy. Yeah, and a few weeks later, Hush Puppies transferred to Los Angeles where Agent Innocentie's FBI squad is headquartered to wait trial.
Starting point is 00:21:23 And shortly after he gets there, Hushpuppey stops returning Gals calls and hires a new attorney. And then it seems he has a change of heart and a complete change of strategy. He decides to plead guilty. The billionaire Gucci master has been brought down to Earth and he isn't the only one facing consequences.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Meanwhile, Hushpuppey's friend Pock is in hot water too. Earth, and he isn't the only one facing consequences. Meanwhile, Hashpuppi's friend Pock is in Hotwater 2. Ever since the FBI raid, he's bounced from prison to prison in the United Arab Emirates for almost 6 months. Oh God, that's a long time. I know, it's not fair and he's in hell. He has no idea what's going on. The police there don't even let him shower for weeks
Starting point is 00:22:06 at a time, and they ask him over and over again about his friend. How did Hashpupi make his money? How did he invest? But Pock doesn't budge. He says he genuinely doesn't know anything about Hashpupi being a scammer. Um, I don't know if I totally buy that, right?
Starting point is 00:22:24 He was so obvious about it. I think there's a I totally buy that, right? He was so obvious about it. I think there's a part of me that believes that someone like Hush Puppy who still has this grind mentality and sees himself as an inspiration. Maybe you wouldn't tell his closest friend who knew him before he was, who he is.
Starting point is 00:22:40 I mean, I could see him hiding that side of himself. And I guess if they're sort of connected in ways beyond sort of his like business nonsense. Yeah. And also like, Pock doesn't really have anything to gain from lying. Like Hoshpuppies out. Yeah. Okay. And regardless, the police aren't buying it.
Starting point is 00:23:01 They threaten to keep Pock in a Dubai prison for life unless he testifies against his friend. He's held without charges or a lawyer. Then one day, Pock is suddenly transferred to immigration custody and released. Then authorities tell them he has to fly back to Nigeria. Only they leave him with nothing. No phone. None of the cash he had when he got arrested, not even his own clothes. So, how is he going to get home? Yeah, we actually don't know how he gets home,
Starting point is 00:23:32 but thankfully he does get home and he doesn't have to spend life in prison. And if what he says is true, Pock is an innocent bystander who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. But there's one Hush Puppy associate who's about to get exactly what's coming to him. In February 2021, while Hush Puppy is still being held in LA, representatives from several U.S. law enforcement agencies hop on a virtual press conference to announce a result of a year's long investigation into a group of North Korean cyber criminals. The same group that hacked into Sony in 2014. North Korea's operatives using keyboards rather than guns, stealing digital wallets of cryptocurrency
Starting point is 00:24:19 instead of stacks of cash, have become the world's leading bank robbers. That's John Demers, who is then Assistant Attorney General for National Security. He goes on to announce charges against three North Korean nationals who allegedly attempted to steal and extort more than $1.2 billion from financial institutions and companies all over the world. Basically, North Korean hackers are all about financial crimes because the country is hard up for cash, given its weak economy and years of brutal sanctions.
Starting point is 00:24:53 And they've gotten really, really good at it. Members of the FBI, the Secret Service, and the Justice Department have been working together for years on this case. Being able to announce the names of three hackers and roll out their wanted posters is a really big deal. Here's John again. To show to these actors that they are not as anonymous as they think they are.
Starting point is 00:25:16 As you see in this indictment, you can see photos of the hackers at issue. You think your anonymous is on the keyboard, but you're not. So are they actually going to arrest these north korean's like what's happening here i mean probably not but law enforcement agencies are basically blowing up their spot so now they have to come up with new fake emails fake company names and new methods of scamming and they're trying to build upon an international movement to crack down on cyber fraud we chose to unfeel the indictment today for several reasons, one of which was the related announcement of a criminal case against the money launder, Gala Balamari.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Alamari conspired to steal and then laundered tens of millions of dollars for the North Koreans and other criminals. That's Tracy Wilkinson who has been the acting US attorney for the Central District of California. Basically, she's saying, Hoshpuppi's pal, Galeb, Big Boss, agreed to a plea deal. All right, so Big Boss is just going to be another broke asshole in Mississauga. He's just another broke boy from Mississauga. But when the Justice Department charges Hoshp Puppy for his involvement in yet another scam,
Starting point is 00:26:30 it sparks an international upward that hits close to home, right back in Lagos. In July 2021, a little more than a year after Hush Puppy's arrest, he's indicted by a federal grand jury in Los Angeles. The indictment calls Hush Puppy one of the most high-profile money-launders in the world. It alleges he took part in stealing more than $1 million through the Cattari school scam, and it also reveals one of his high-profile collaborators, ABBA Kiari, Deputy Commissioner of the Nigeria Police Force for taking Hush Puppy's money to throw Vincent and Jail.
Starting point is 00:27:10 The FBI charges confirm an open secret in Nigeria that ABBA is a massively crooked cop. ABBA is immediately suspended from his job, and the Nigerian police start an investigation into the accusations. But for many Nigerians, this is a really painful turn of events. Remember when we talked about how Abba led the SARS task force for years? Yeah, they were profiling young men in Nigeria, they were harassing them, arresting them, extorting them, and sometimes they were killing them just for carrying a cell phone or a laptop. Yeah, it was extremely brutal.
Starting point is 00:27:44 And a few months before Abba's arrest, a viral video allegedly showed SARS officers killing a young man. And it sparked two weeks of protests with a movement called Hashtag and SARS. The government announced it was dissolving the SARS unit, but the protests kept going. Then the police opened fire on a crowd of demonstrators, and according to Amnesty International,
Starting point is 00:28:07 more than 50 people died during the protests. Though the government promised to create panels to hold officers accountable, they never followed through. So when the news about Abba Kiari breaks, the news media explodes. What next for Aba Kiari? The scandal around the so-called super cop is still raging. Yesterday, social media was a gulp with information about the Deputy Commissioner of Police, Aba
Starting point is 00:28:34 Kiari. Aba Kiari, a deputy commissioner of police in Nigeria, is one of the country's most popular police officers. Not with his indictment by the FBI and the issuing of a warrant of his arrest, the integrity of the police again comes to the spotlight. The news reignites outrage over police corruption, and Nigerians aren't just angry about Kiyari. They're upset that Hush Puppy, the former Yahoo boy turned aspirational legend, has been colluding with the enemy.
Starting point is 00:29:18 While Hushbubby negotiates a plea deal in the US, Aba Kiari is desperate to salvage his reputation in Nigeria. So, he follows in the long and story tradition of influencer apologies and posts a long message to Facebook. In it, Abba claims he was only helping Hush Puppy investigate threats against his life. As soon as he figured out that Hush Puppy's beef with Vincent was a money squabble, he let him out.
Starting point is 00:29:43 Oh, and those bank numbers he shared with Hashpuppey, that was for payments to a local seller of native clothes and caps, he writes, no crime to see here. Unfortunately for Abba, absolutely no one buys his weak ass excuses. It just makes people even more pissed off. So he deletes the post,
Starting point is 00:30:02 and he hasn't posted to Instagram since the accusations were made public. But if we've learned one thing in doing this series, Sachi, it's that scammer's gonna scam. So before and long, Abba's in the headlines again. While he's still under investigation, Abba posts photos to Facebook of himself at a wedding for the son of the inspector general of police. That would be the son of the Inspector General of Police. That would be the guy who's leading up the investigation against Abba,
Starting point is 00:30:30 conflict of interest much, and after some massive backlash, he takes the post down from Facebook. Everybody is posting so much in this story. Like everybody just needs to shut up and be quiet and stay home. I know. But then, nearly a year after that, Abba is arrested for his alleged involvement in an international cocaine smuggling ring. According to Nigeria's National Drug Law Enforcement Agency,
Starting point is 00:30:59 Abba was caught trying to sell Coke that the Nigerian police force confiscated, so now he's behind bars awaiting trial. And he isn't enjoying having the table turned. In May, Abba begs the court to let him out on bail because he doesn't feel safe in prison. It's July 28, 2021. Hushpupby has been in an LA jail for about a year.
Starting point is 00:31:23 He's reached the end of the road and he can't hustle culture his way out of this one. So he pleads guilty to money laundering and fraud. And the FBI says they've tallied up how much he ended up swindling people out of. And it's roughly $24 million. Ooh, that's a lot of watches. But even though Hush Puppy is at a US prison and has admitted to a truly shocking level
Starting point is 00:31:48 of international scamming, he remains a kind of cultural force in Nigeria. Like, as of right now, the Hush Puppy soldier's fan page has over 35,000 people who are still standing by him. Even with all the scamming he's done, there is still a lot of people that look up to him as kind of an aspirational figure. Like, on Hushpapy's birthday, the year he was arrested, his fan club posted a photo of him during happier times. At a luxury car dealership, a drink in his hand. Sachi, I need you to read us a message they posted along with that photo. I'm here to help you remember that nothing is going to happen to you that you can't handle it. May the Almighty answer the wish and the prayers in your heart.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Here's wishing you a happy birthday with many more to come. Remain the strong person that you are. Someone else who posted an honor of Hosh Puppy's birthday as Pock. His childhood friend who remains loyal to him to this day. In the caption, he says he will stand by him till death. But Pock also posts about how traumatic his experience has been. After Dubai police dumped him at immigration, Pock somehow managed to find a way back home to Nigeria. In an Instagram post on the anniversary of his arrest,
Starting point is 00:33:05 Pax says the six months in jail were the darkest time of his life. He says he wouldn't wish that on his worst enemy and that he still has nightmares. I feel bad for Pax, but like, he's still loyal to Hushpapy, even though he's the reason he went to jail. Like, why?
Starting point is 00:33:22 I could see it kind of being a thing of like, this is someone I loved in my life. Like, you know what I mean? Like, he's got, it's like Stockholm syndrome. He's like so in it. Well, Pock isn't the only one who's still got a soft spot for Hashpuffy, because Yahoo boys now have folk hero status with a lot of Nigerians.
Starting point is 00:33:41 An overwhelming majority of Nigerians are under 24 years old, and only one third of them have full-time employment. The government and police have major corruption issues, so a lot of people sympathize with Yahoo boys, and even glorify them like a lot of the rappers who name Drop Hush Puppy. And his Instagram, which is still up, has more than 2 million followers and gets flooded with positive comments. Oh, and he's also gonna be made into a movie. I will see that movie. We're first in line.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Well, of course, not everyone is sympathetic. Voice is banner, a rising Afrobeat star dropped a diss track after Hush Puppy's arrest. They will catch you Hush Puppy. He says he wrote the song because he's been the victim of scammers, and it's honestly a banger I do have to say. While Sachi, this story took us all over the world and includes some of the most fabulous
Starting point is 00:34:46 and honestly, the most reprehensible scammers we've seen so far. So now it's time to figure out, what do we make of all of this? Yeah, this is a really weird story where the scam goes from like, not great, but stupid to like evil, real bad, very bad. Yeah, it's really crazy because it's like,
Starting point is 00:35:09 Hashbapi kind of dug his own grave because he just was addicted to posting. And it was weird because he actually ended up doing the legitimate work influencers do, which is, you know, going to fashion shows and propping up designers and, you know, posting from stores, but he was actually like an international cyber con man. If you were just rich and quiet, you could get away with so much in your scam, but all these people need to brag. This is one of the themes in the podcast. It's like, if you just like live a peaceful and an ethical life, no one will know, but if you yammer about it, people will know.
Starting point is 00:35:52 Yeah, it also is crazy because it's like, they didn't have to work that hard to take them down. No, they're acting as if they like had to do all these background checks. It's like, they did one Google and looked at his Instagram and were like, oh, here he is. I will say this again, any woman in her 20s or 30s could have easily figured this out. Like, there's this guy at the gym that I saw today. No joke. I found him on Instagram and five
Starting point is 00:36:20 minutes, Sachi. If this episode also serves as anything else, perhaps it serves as a reminder of the ineptitude of some police, frankly. Yeah, I think this is also a very interesting story because there is a ton of racism towards Nigerians, especially when it comes to the jokes about Nigerian scammers or whatever. But also, I do understand the idea that like, some people are in this situation where this seems like the best way out. I do see the inspirational folk hero
Starting point is 00:36:55 kind of Yahoo boy thing though. Like I see how that can happen really easily. For sure. I don't know that Hashpappi is the worst person in this. I think it's, I think it's the Supercop. Oh, absolutely it's a Supercop. I don't think Hashpappi is the worst person in this. I think it's the super cop. Oh, absolutely, it's a super cop. I don't think Hashpappi is a worst person at all. I think he's just extraordinarily fascinating because he was such a legitimate influencer
Starting point is 00:37:14 and actually had millions of followers and so many people who were into him. But Abba was way worse. Way worse. I mean, Sarah, are there any lessons that you will be taking into your own social media diet? There absolutely is a lesson here. And to me, it's... You don't have to be so flashy, like, don't be tacky.
Starting point is 00:37:38 If Hashpapi would have never become the billionaire Gucci master, we wouldn't even know about him. He wouldn't have been caught. Hmm, yeah. That's, I think the lesson here is, if you or someone you love has posters, disease, please consider seeing a professional.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Yeah. Also, don't trust a man from his saga. Don't, oh, listen. The man comes up to you and he's like I'm from Toronto The first question is are you sure and then if he says well, I'm from Mississauga run Take it from Sachi take it from me. Don't trust anybody from Mississauga. I've made that mistake before. I will never do it again Hey, Prime members, you can listen to ScanFluencers add free on Amazon Music. Download the Amazon Music app today, or you can listen ad free with Wondery Plus and Apple podcasts. Before you go, tell us about yourself by completing a short survey at Wondery.com slash survey.
Starting point is 00:38:50 This is part two of billionaire Gucci master, I'm Sarah Haggi, and I'm Sachi Cole. We use many sources in our research, a few that were particularly helpful were Evan Ratliffe's feature for Bloomberg and Jeff Weitz book, The Lazarus Heist. Paola Mejia wrote this episode, additional writing by Sachi Coleol and Sarah Hagi. Jen Swan is our senior producer. Our producer is John Reed. Our associate producers are
Starting point is 00:39:12 Charlotte Miller and Tate Buzzfeed. Sarah Any is our story editor. Our senior story editor is Rachel B. Doyle. Additional research by Chisolm Peter Job. Our music supervisor is Scott Velasquez for Freesson Sync. Agent Tapia provided audio assistance. Our sound design is by Jay Rothman. Our executive producers are Janine Cornelow, Stephanie Gens, and Marshall Luey for Wendry. you

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