Scamfluencers - The Billionaire Gucci Master: Part II

Episode Date: August 1, 2022

Hushpuppi is expanding his business with some new partnerships, including with the North Korean cyber criminals who hacked into Sony. He’s becoming one of the most elite Internet scammers in the world, and he’s well on his way to pulling off a massive, multi-million dollar money laundering scheme… If only he could stop posting about it on the gram.Support us by supporting our sponsors!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Hey, prime members, you can listen to scam influencers ad-free on Amazon music. Download the app today. Okay, Satchie, I do have a serious question for you before we begin. I need to be honest. All right. Has anyone ever snitched on you about something? Slash? Have you been a snitch? Anyone ever snitched on you about something, slash, have you been a snitch? No, snitches get stitches, and so if anybody has ever snitched on me, they are dead now.

Okay, so I want you to imagine you're doing something super illegal, and one of your partners in crime, squeals on you, to the same person, you are scamming out of money. That would be upsetting and confusing, I think. So that's actually what happens to Hush Puppy in early 2020. And at this point, Hush Puppy is now one of the most elite cyber scammers in the world.

So he has a lot to lose. Hush Puppy is at home in Dubai when he finds out one of his scam partners, Vincent Kelly Chabuzo has pulled a double cross. Hush Puppy and his other partner, Jama, are pumping their mark a business person in the US for as much money as they can. But Vincent has been trying to get the mark to pay him instead.

Okay, and this is the business person who wants to build a school in Qatar, right? And he thinks Jama and Hush Puppy can get him alone. Yeah, that's exactly it. And Hush Puppy is furious. After everything he's done for Vincent, how dare he go behind his back. Hush Puppy pulls up his own Instagram profile and picks a recent photo. It's one of him in his Versace penthouse, wearing the rich and meal watch worth

230K, which he bought with the money from the Katari school scam. And he types out a caption. Do you want to read it? Of course I do. One of the best things I learned that keeps me going is to never take criticism from people I'd never go too far advice.

Insofar as Pablo m'goes, it's pretty good Pablo. Absolutely. But he thinks passive aggressive captions, they're just not enough. So Hush Puppy pulls up Vincent's number and he starts typing a message and it's aggressive, aggressive. That's more of my speed. Yeah, it's just like texting you. Hush Puppy, Tex of Vincent, telling him he's committed a crime that won't be forgiven.

He says Vincent will regret messing with him and adds very soon, very, very soon, the wrath of my hands shall find you and when it does, it will damage you forever. I love that. It's what I hope my real housewives tagline would be. So this is more than just a real housewives tagline or an empty threat. Hashpapi wants revenge. And he needs to be sure Vincent can't keep interfering in the scam. So he's about to call in a favor from one of the most powerful people in Nigeria.

But in seeking revenge, Hashpapi will betray his past, setting himself up for an international fall from grace. I love my kid, but is a new comedy parenting podcast from Wondry that shares a refreshingly honest and insightful take on parenting. Each week, the host will share a parenting story that will have you laughing and thinking, yes, I have absolutely been there. Listen to, I love my kid, but on Amazon Music or wherever you get your podcasts.

Hi, I'm Lindsey Graham, the host of One Race Podcast American Scandal. Our newest series looks at the story of OxyContin, a popular painkiller that helps spur an epidemic of addiction and drug abuse, in which prompted a broad campaign to hold the pharmaceutical industry accountable. Listen to American scandal on Amazon Music or wherever you get your podcasts. From Wondery, I'm Sarah Haggy, and I'm Sachi Cole, and this is Scamful Insurs. And our last episode, we met the least subtle scammer, Ray Hashpapi Abbas. Hashpapi rose from Nigerian cybercafes to Versace Palaces by scamming businesses and people out of millions of dollars over email. And he washes that money by buying luxury outfits, expensive sneakers, and fancy cars, which he breaks about to his 2.8 million followers on Instagram.

God, how did these people get so many followers in the first place? Well, that's a whole other scam. But what Hush Puppy doesn't know is that at this very moment, his social accounts are being watched closely. And not just by gossip blogs trying to figure out what he does for a living, but by the FBI. And they are closing in fast. Hush puppies downfall involves fancy watches, North Korean hackers and dirty cops.

And it's immense status as an unlikely folk hero. This is part two of billionaire Gucci master. It's January 2020. Master. It's January 2020. A man named Abba Kiyari, the Deputy Commissioner of the Nigerian Police Force, is in his office. He's in his mid-40s and tall with a shaved head, and he has a habit of wearing airpods at all times. And his office, it's kind of a shrine to himself. There are shelves lined with plaques and awards, several framed photos of him in uniform, and in the corner, there's even an oil painting of himself,

of course. And to be fair, Abba has a lot to be proud of. He's the most decorated officer in the history of the Nigerian police. And he's famous in Nigeria. The media there refers to him as a super cop. He's risen through the ranks to become a deputy commissioner, including many years managing SARS,

the special anti-roberry squad. Okay, wait, why does that sound familiar? It's the police force that went after the Yahoo boys. Abba made a name for himself by going after scammers and also kidnappers and bank robbers. He's also become kind of a cop influencer, like tens of thousands of people follow him on Instagram, where he posts pictures of himself winning awards

and bragging about arrests and hanging out with celebrities. And one day, he picks up a call from a familiar number. A young Nigerian celebrity called Drumroll, Hush Puppy. Wait, okay, so how do they know each other? We actually don't know for sure, but about four months earlier in September 2019, Abba visited Dubai. And while he was there, Hush Puppy loaned him a car and a driver. So they're friendly and they text back and forth. Like Abba sends Hush Puppy selfies and articles praising his accomplishments. It's kind of like your text to Misachi.

And at one point, Hush Puppy texts him, and really happy to be your boy. I always love getting that text from you. Yeah, but Abba quickly realizes this isn't a normal social call. Hashpapi is pissed off and he's asking for a favor. He wants Abba to help him get revenge on Vincent, the business partner who crossed him. So Hashpapi, the world's most successful Yahoo boy

is coming to the super cop to ask for help. Okay, this seems ill advised, but something tells me there's more to this than I know. Yeah, I mean, there's a reason why Hashpapi is going to Abba in the first place. And it's because this super cop is a super dirty cop. Ah, for years, Abba's police teams have committed

the same crimes they were supposed to be protecting Nigerian citizens against. I'm talking like obstruction, abduction, intimidation, and torture. Abbas forces have even been known to murder people and then clean out their bank accounts. It's truly disgusting. Yes. But Abba is like Teflon. Even though his awful tactics seem to be an open secret in Nigeria, at this point, he's never faced any consequences. And today, his boy Hushpuppy wants help locking up a fellow scammer. So, after mulling it over, Abba says, yes, for a price.

And just like that, Hushpuppy becomes a part of the same corrupt system that terrorized him as a young man. But little does he know, this is the move that will bring down Nigeria's most crooked cop for good. A week later, Hush Puppy's phone buzzes with a new message. It's from Abba. It's a photo of Vincent and a jail cell. He looks miserable

and exhausted. Abba made good on his promise to have Vincent arrested, and now that Vincent's behind bars can't interfere with Hush Puppy's scheme. But Hush Puppy isn't satisfied, so Hush decides to take it one step further. He texts Abba, I want him to go through serious beating of his life. When Abba replies, ha ha ha ha, Hush puppy writes back, seriously sir. That is a very tense ha ha ha ha text. It's absolutely insane that this is all happening

over text message. It's like, hey, let's just take our corruption another step further. And I want you to beat this man. And I also will have records of it on my phone. Yeah, they really love to leave a paper trail. I'm seeing. Considering how much Hushpup you should know about fraud and like online safety, it's crazy that there's a text trail of this. And you know what, that's not even the worst part.

Hashpapi follows up and offers to send Abba a big chunk of change. If he and his team make sure that Vincent suffers for many years and Abba accepts the offer, he texts Hashpapi a bank account number so he can deposit the cash. Later that day, Hashpupy sees a new post from Abba on Instagram. It's a super cop standing next to a lectern surrounded by other Nigeria police force officers.

They're at a press conference announcing the arrest of 60 kidnappers. Abba steers right into the camera, radiating pride. Oh, Jesus Christ. I know. So, Hush Puppy gets back to the Katari scam. Without Vincent there to mess things up, him and Jama manage to get hundreds of thousands of more dollars from the business person.

They eventually get $1.1 million from the scheme, but by mid-February, the mark has started to catch on. They cut off communication with Jama, then Hush Puppy for good. While the scams unraveling, Abba messages to save Vincent has gotten sick and jail. He has a fever and a rash, and with the scheme winding down, Hush Puppy texts Abba, saying that he'll forgive Vincent for the sake of God. He says Abba can release him, but keep all of his confiscated electronics. So Vincent is free,

but Hushpuppey's proven that there's no honor among thieves. A few months after the Katari school scam fell apart, FBI agent Andrew John in Ascente is hunched over his desk in Los Angeles. He's scrolling through a mountain of digital data. After his team arrested Canadian cyber scammer Galeb Alumari late last year, Agent Innocendi has been focused on Galeb's associates,

including an ostentatious influencer who calls himself Hashpupi. The FBI has to prove that Hashpupi is a man who worked with Galeb to target a maltease bank. So they request user data from Instagram. And once that rolls in, it confirms that Hashpuppey's account is associated with the same number Galeb was communicating with. And the email used to start the account lists Palazzo Versace as its address. And recent logins are from an IP address in the United Arab Emirates. Okay, I feel like even I am harder to trace than this person and I'm pretty online.

I know. And once the FBI gets access to that email account, they find scans of tons of IDs Hush Puppy used. Real and fraudulent. Photos on those IDs match the charming half-smile plastered all over Instagram. And the birthday matches up with several posts Hush Puppy makes celebrating his birthday with custom cakes from Gucci, Versace, and Fendi. Oh, and who could forget the video of his birthday party at Burberry? Remember this clip from Daddy Freeze's YouTube page? So it's Hush Puppy's birthday.

And we're celebrating Happy Birthday tomorrow. How, how could I have forgotten? Well, evidence of Hush Puppy's identity, his whereabouts, and his wealth is all over Instagram. And it doesn't take long for Agent Innocenti to connect the dots. But Hush Puppy isn't the ultimate target of his investigation. The FBI has its sights set on the North Korean hackers, the

ones who broke into Sony and who helped golebb and hushpuppie rip off the bank in Malta. Right. So the FBI is approaching this like a mob case. Go after the lower status members like hushpuppie and get them to flip. With their help, you get closer to the real bosses, which in this case is the North Korean hackers. And this is a massive operation. The FBI is working with the government of the UAE, the Dubai Police Force, the US Secret Service, and the Kenyan government. And I'm sorry, this is hilarious.

This just proves that men are really like little boys forever. They're calling this investigation. Operation Top Dog. Jesus Christ, you can hear how proud they are of that name. They are so proud. So, Agent Innocenti decides it's time to bring Hashpapiyin to learn what he knows. So, he calls his colleagues at the Dubai Police Department and gives them the green light. colleagues at the Dubai Police Department and gives them the green light. Just past midnight on June 8th, 2020, Sakuru Adakoya, who goes by PAK, is flipping through the channels on TV. He's stretched out on a plush sofa in the penthouse of the Palazzo Versace.

He doesn't live here, but he's visiting his childhood friend, Hashpapi. And he's known him long before he went by that nickname. Pock's beard is less bushy than Hashpapi's, and he's a bit more trim, but the two look like they belong together, just like they did growing up in suburban Lagos. As kids, they looked out for each other. When Hashpapi got suspended from school, he knew he could hide out at Pock's house, and Pock gave Hashpapi his first pair of Nike's. So when Hashpapi moved away from Nigeria and got a major life glow up, he invited his friend to come to Dubai. Hashpapi took Pock in and helped him look for work. But it's been hard for Pock to get a good job.

And just when he was about to head back home, Pock got appendicitis. Hashpapi paid for his friend's medical care, of course. And then, by the time Pock had recovered, the pandemic shut down all travel. So Pock's still here, crashing at Hoshpocky's penthouse, waiting for his luck to change. Okay, well, if we're making a podcast about if something tells me it won't.

Actually, they all live happily ever after, and this is the end of the episode. And our show is done, we have no more stories to tell. Well, back to reality, suddenly, there's a loud thud at the front door. Pock jolt's up from the couch, just as a SWAT team rushes into the room. They're decked out in helmets and flak jackets, batons in hand. They grab Pock's phone out of his hand and motioned for him to get down on the floor.

They tell him he's under arrest and they demand to know where Hushpup is. They're yelling, where are his computers? Where is his money? Agent starts scouring the house, ripping drawers open and rifling through closets. Oh, wait, okay, so is this the raid from that wild ass police video? okay, so is this the raid from that wild-ass police video?

Yes, this is the exact raid and I think we could actually hear more of it here. In the operation, police officers were also able to seize items worth more than 150 million dirums after they claimed 21 computers, 47 smartphones, 15 storage memory devices, and five hard disks containing data. And that comes out to over $40 million. The police run upstairs and return with the blirried Hashpuffy wearing a white t-shirt and green track pants. His hands are tied behind his back.

Pock lays on the ground, face down, mind racing. He doesn't understand why this is happening to his friend. Does Pac know that Hush Puppy is a scammer? Well, Pac swears he doesn't know that he thinks Hush Puppy made all of his money in real estate just like his Instagram bio says. So he and Hush Puppy are arrested, taken to police headquarters and jailed separately.

Four days later, a Dubai prosecutor and FBI agent's question-pock. He told them Hush Puppy was a businessman. He never even seen him use a laptop at the penthouse. Pock knew Hush Puppy, the Nigerian boy who transcended poverty and was generous in his success. He never knew the international cyber criminal, but now the whole world is going to learn the truth about the billionaire Gucci master. All the influence in the world can't help push puppy now. After the raid, Hush Puppy is expelled from the United Arab Emirates, and his arrest

is huge news in Nigeria. We begin what's trending with a viral video by the Dubai Police Department detailing a raid on a cybercrime gang led by Nigerian Instagram celebrity popularly known as Hush Puppy. A few weeks after the Dubai Police raid, the FBI files aly known as Hush Puppy. A few weeks after the Dubai police raid, the FBI files a criminal complaint against Hush Puppy charging him with conspiracy to engage in money laundering. If convicted, Hush Puppy faces up to 20 years in prison. The FBI calls Hush Puppy a key player

in a large transnational conspiracy. They accuse him of flaunting an opulent lifestyle while ripping people off all over the world, including victims in the US, which is how Hushpapy ends up in a prison in downtown Chicago. His preliminary hearing is set for July 2nd, 2020. Hushpapy's first lawyer is a local Chicago attorney,

Gael Pizetski, from a law firm called Pizetski and Berliner. He's trim, bald, and wears round glasses, and he has a website where he calls himself a modern-day Perry Mason. You know, the righteous criminal defense attorney from the 1950s TV show, it's a very current reference. Oh no. And Sasha, Gowl has a sizzle reel. He has a what? He has a sizzle reel, babe.

Okay, we actually have to watch this. I have litigated hundreds of fourth, fifth, and sixth amendment motions in which law enforcement violated my client's constitutional rights. like clients' constitutional rights. I'm Galpy Setsv, and I'm here to defend, protect, and fight for your rights. It looks like a trailer for like a new law and order, but for nerds. Well, Gal has a plan for Hashpapi. He tells him to plead not guilty.

And he starts talking to the media, saying, Hashpapi is a legit influencer. Gal tells Forbes that his to plead not guilty. And he starts talking to the media, saying, Hashpapi is a legit influencer. Gal tells Forbes that his client is, quote, an Instagram personality. He was promoting brands, and that's how he was very legitimately making his money. Can you please read the rest of this quote, Sashi?

I can. He is a social media influencer with millions of followers, with millions of people that respect and loved him. And he loved them, and that's what he did. In today's society, that's a business. Oh, that is the darkest thing I've ever heard in my life. I mean, where's a lie? I guess. Love is a business. Ugh, Christ. Well, Gals says the US government is just trying to make an example of him. They know that this will be reported in headlines, especially around the world, and they knew that people that engage in B.C. schemes, especially from Nigeria, I think, will hear it and will know

Nigeria, I think, will hear it and will know that the United States will go after you and they will punish you. But this approach, gotta say, doesn't seem like a great move. Gal also admits that he is not 100% familiar with social media and his children consider him too old. But he says he knows that's how people make money today. Okay. But he says he knows that's how people make money today. Okay, so that's not really what you want to hear from the person who's going to like Get you out of jail and his entire defense hinges on being social media stuff. Yeah, and a few weeks later, Hush Puppies transferred to Los Angeles

where Agent Innocenties FBI squad is headquartered to a wait trial. And shortly after he gets there, Hush Puppy stops returning Gals calls and hires a new attorney. And then it seems he has a change of heart and a complete change of strategy. He decides to plead guilty. The billionaire Gucci master has been brought down to Earth and he isn't the only one facing consequences.

Meanwhile, Hush Puppy's friend Pock is in Hotwater 2. Ever since the FBI raid, he's bounced from prison to prison in the United Arab Emirates for almost 6 months. Oh God, that's a long time. I know, it's not fair and he's in hell. He has no idea what's going on. The police there don't even let him shower for weeks at a time, and they ask him over and over again about his friend.

How did Hashpapi make his money? How did he invest? But Pock doesn't budge. He says he genuinely doesn't know anything about Hashpapi being a scammer. Um, I don't know if I totally buy that, right? He was so obvious about it. I think there's a part of me that believes

that someone like Hashpapi, who still has this grind mentality and sees himself as an inspiration. Maybe he wouldn't tell his closest friend who knew him before he was, who he is. And I mean, I could see him hiding that side of himself. And I guess if they're sort of connected in ways beyond sort of his like business nonsense. Yeah, and also like,

Pock doesn't really have anything to gain from lying. Like Hushpuppies out. Yeah. Okay. And regardless, the police aren't buying it. They threaten to keep Pock in a Dubai prison for life unless he testifies against his friend. He's held without charges or a lawyer.

Then one day, Pock is suddenly transferred to immigration custody and released. Then authorities tell them he has to fly back to Nigeria. Only they leave him with nothing. No phone. None of the cash he had when he got arrested. Not even his own clothes. So how is he going to get home? Yeah, we actually don't know how he gets home, but thankfully he does get home and he

doesn't have to spend life in prison. And if what he says is true, Pock is an innocent bystander who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. But there's one Hushpuppi associate who's about to get exactly what's coming to him. In February 2021, while Hushpuppi is still being held in LA, representatives from several U.S. law enforcement agencies hop on a virtual press conference to announce a result of a year's long investigation into a group of North Korean cyber criminals. The same group that hacked into Sony in 2014. North Korea's operatives using keyboards rather than guns, stealing digital wallets of cryptocurrency

instead of stacks of cash, have become the world's leading bank robbers. That's John Demers, who is then Assistant Attorney General for National Security. He goes on to announce charges against three North Korean nationals who allegedly attempted to steal and extort more than $1.2 billion from financial institutions and companies all over the world. Basically, North Korean hackers are all about financial crimes because the country is hard up for cash, given its weak economy and years of brutal sanctions. And they've gotten really, really good at it.

Members of the FBI, the Secret Service, and the Justice Department have been working together for years on this case. Being able to announce the names of three hackers and roll out their wanted posters is a really big deal. Here's John again. To show to these actors that they are not, as anonymous as they think they are, as you see,

in this indictment, you can see photos of the hackers at issue. You think your anonymous being on the keyboard, but you're not. So are they actually gonna arrest these North Koreans? Like, what's happening here? I mean, probably not. But law enforcement agencies are basically blowing up their spot.

So now they have to come up with new fake emails, fake company names, and new methods of scamming. And they're trying to build upon an international movement to crack down on cyber fraud. We chose to unfeel the indictment today for several reasons, one of which was the related announcement of a criminal case against the money launder, Gala Balamari. Gala Balamari conspired to steal and then laundered tens of millions of dollars for the North Koreans and other criminals. That's Tracy Wilkinson, who was then the acting US attorney for the Central District of

California. Basically, she's saying, Hoshpuppi's pal, Galeb, Big Boss, agreed to a plea deal. All right, so Big Boss is just going to be another broke asshole in Mississauga. He's just another broke boy from Mississauga. But when the Justice Department charges Hush Puppy for his involvement in yet another scam, it sparks an international uproar that hits close to home right back in Lagos.

In July 2021, a little more than a year after Hush Puppy's arrest, he's indicted by a federal grand jury in Los Angeles. The indictment calls Hush Puppy one of the most high-profile money launderers in the world. It alleges he took part in stealing more than $1 million through the Cotari school scam, and it also reveals one of his high-profile collaborators, Abba Kiari, Deputy Commissioner of the Nigeria Police Force for taking hush

puppy's money to throw Vincent and Jail. The FBI charges confirm an open secret in Nigeria that ABBA is a massively crooked cop. ABBA is immediately suspended from his job, and the Nigerian police start an investigation into the accusations. But for many Nigerians, this is a really painful turn of events. Remember when we talked about how Abba led the SARS task force for years? Yeah, they were profiling young men in Nigeria, they were harassing them, arresting them, extorting them, and sometimes they were killing them just for carrying a cell phone or a laptop. Yeah, it was extremely brutal. And a few months before Abba's arrest, a viral video allegedly

showed SARS officers killing a young man, and it sparked two weeks of protests with a movement called Hashtag and SARS. The government announced it was dissolving the SARS unit, but the protests kept going. Then the police opened fire on a crowd of demonstrators, and according to Amnesty International, more than 50 people died during the protests. Though the government promised to create panels to hold officers accountable, they never followed through. So, when the news about Abba Kiari breaks, the news media explodes. What next for Abba Kiari?

The scandal around the so-called super cop is still raging. Yesterday, social media was a gop with information about the Deputy Commissioner of Police, Aba Kiari. Aba Kiari, a deputy commissioner of police in Nigeria, is one of the country's most popular police officers. Not with his indictment by the FBI and the issuing of a warrant of his arrest. The integrity of the police again comes to the spotlight. The news reignites outrage over police corruption

and Igerians aren't just angry about Kiyari. They're upset that Hush Puppy, the former Yahoo boy, turned aspirational legend, has been colluding with the enemy. While Hush Puppie negotiates a plea deal in the U.S., Aba Kiari is desperate to salvage his reputation in Nigeria. So he follows in the long and story tradition of influencer apologies and posts a long message to Facebook. In it, Abba claims he was only helping Hush Puppy investigate threats against his life.

As soon as he figured out that Hush Puppy's beef with Vincent was a money squabble, he let him out. Oh, and those bank numbers he shared with Hashpuppey, that was for payments to a local seller of native clothes and caps, he writes, no crime to see here. Unfortunately for Abba, absolutely, no one buys his weak ass excuses.

It just makes people even more pissed off. So he deletes the post, and he hasn't posted to Instagram since the accusations were made public. But if we've learned one thing in doing this series, Sachi, it's that scammer's gonna scam. So before and long, Abba's in the headlines again. While he's still under investigation,

Abba posts photos to Facebook of himself at a wedding for the son of the Inspector general of police. That would be the guy who's leading up the investigation against Abba, conflict of interest much. And after some massive backlash, he takes the post down from Facebook. I think everybody is posting so much in this story. Like everybody just needs to shut up and be quiet and stay home. I know. But then, nearly a year after that, Abba is arrested for his alleged involvement in an international cocaine smuggling ring.

According to Nigeria's National Drug Law Enforcement Agency, Abba was caught trying to sell coke that the Nigerian police force confiscated, so now he's behind bars awaiting trial. And he isn't enjoying having the table turned. In May, Abba begs the court to let him out on bail because he doesn't feel safe in prison. It's July 28th, 2021. Hushpupby has been in an L.A. jail for about a year. He's reached the end of the road and he can't hustle culture his way out of this one. So he pleads guilty to money laundering and fraud. And the FBI says they've tallied up how much he ended up swindling people out of. And it's

roughly $24 million. Oh, that's a lot of watches. But even though Hush Puppy is in a US prison and has admitted to a truly shocking level of international scamming, he remains a kind of cultural force in Nigeria. Like as of right now, the Hush Puppy soldier's fan page has over 35,000 people who are still standing by him. Even with all the scamming he's done, there's still a lot of people that look up to him as kind of an aspirational figure. Like, on Hushpapy's birthday, the year he was arrested, his fan club posted a photo of him during happier times.

At a luxury car dealership, a drink in his hand. Sachee, I need you to read us a message they posted along with that photo. I'm here to help you remember that nothing is going to happen to you that you can't handle it. May the Almighty answer the wish and the prayers in your heart. Here's wishing you a happy birthday with many more to come, remain the strong person that you are. Someone else who posted an honor of Hashpapi's birthday as Pock, his childhood friend who remains loyal to him to this day.

In the caption, he says he will stand by him till death. But, Pock also posts about how traumatic his experience has been. After Dubai police dumped him at immigration, Pock somehow managed to find a way back home to Nigeria. In an Instagram post on the anniversary of his arrest, Pock says the six months in jail were the darkest time of his life. He says he wouldn't wish that on his worst enemy and that he still has nightmares. I feel bad for Pax, but like,

he's still loyal to Hushpapy, even though he's the reason he went to jail. Like, why? I could see it kind of being a thing of like, this is someone I loved in my life. Like, you know what I mean? Like, he's got, it's like Stockholm syndrome. He's like so in it. Well, Pock isn't the only one who's still got a soft spot for Hosh Puppy.

Because Yahoo boys now have folk hero status with a lot of Nigerians. An overwhelming majority of Nigerians are under 24 years old. And only one third of them have full-time employment. The government and police have major corruption issues, so a lot of people sympathize with Yahoo boys, and even glorify them like a lot of the rappers who name Drop Hush Puppy. And his Instagram, which is still up, has more than 2 million followers and gets flooded with positive comments. Oh, and he's also going to be made into a movie. I will see that movie.

We're first in line. Well, of course, not everyone is sympathetic. Voice is banner, a rising Afrobeat star dropped a diss track after Hush Puppy's arrest. They will catch you Hush Puppy. He says he wrote the song because he's been the victim of scammers and it's honestly a banger I do have to say. While Sachi this story took us all over the world and include some of the most fabulous and honestly the most reprehensible scammers we've seen so far.

So now it's time to figure out, what do we make of all of this? Yeah, this is a really weird story where the scam goes from like, not great, but stupid to like evil. Real bad, very bad. Yeah, it's really like evil, real bad, very bad. Yeah, it's really crazy because it's like Hashbapi kind of dug his own grave because he just was addicted to posting.

And it was weird because he actually ended up doing the legitimate work influencers do, which is going to fashion shows and propping up designers and, you know, posting from stores. But he was actually like an international cyber con man. If you were just rich and quiet, you could get away with so much in your scam, but all these people need to brag. This is one of the themes in the podcast.

It's like, if you just like live a peaceful and an ethical life, no one will know. But if you yammer about it, people will know. Yeah, it also is crazy because it's like, they didn't have to work that hard to take them down. No, they're acting as if they like had to do all these background checks. It's like, they did one Google and looked at his Instagram

and were like, oh, here is. I will say this again. Any woman in her 20s or 30s could have easily figured this out. Like, there's this guy at the gym that I saw today. No joke. I found him on Instagram and five minutes Sachi. Okay. If this episode also serves as anything else,

perhaps it serves as a reminder of the ineptitude of some police, frankly. Yeah, I think this is also a very interesting story because there is a ton of racism towards Nigerians, especially when it comes to the jokes about Nigerian scammers or whatever. But also, I do understand the idea that like some people are in the situation where this seems like the best way out. I do see the inspirational folk hero kind of Yahoo boy thing though. Like I see how that can happen really easily.

For sure. I don't know that Hashpappi is the worst person in this. I think it's, I think it's the super cop. Oh absolutely it's a super cop. I don't think Hashpappi is the worst person in this. I think it's the super cop. Oh, absolutely it's a super cop. I don't think Hashpappi is a worst person at all. I think he's just extraordinarily fascinating because he was such a legitimate influencer and actually had millions of followers

and so many people who were into him. But Abba was way worse. Way worse. I mean, Sarah, are there any lessons that you will be taking into your own social media diet? There absolutely is a lesson here. And to me, it's, you don't have to be so flashy, like don't be tacky.

If Hashpapy would have never become the billionaire Gucci master, we wouldn't even know about him. He wouldn't have know about him. He wouldn't have been caught. Hmm, yeah. That's, I think the lesson here is, if you or someone you love has posters, disease,

please consider seeing a professional. Yeah. Also, don't trust a man from his saga. Don't, oh, listen. The man comes up to you and he's like, I'm from Toronto. The first question is, are you sure? And then if he says, well, I'm from Mississauga, run. Take it from Sachi. Take it from me.

Don't trust anybody from Mississauga. I've made that mistake before. I will never do it again. LAUGHS Hey, prime members! You can listen to scamful answers, add free on Amazon Music. Download the Amazon Music app today, or you can listen ad free with Wondery Plus and Apple podcasts.

Before you go, tell us about yourself by completing a short survey at Wondery.com slash survey. This is part two of billionaire Gucci master, I'm Sarah Haggy. And I'm Sachi Cole. We use many sources in our research, a few that were particularly helpful were Evan Ratliffe's feature for Bloomberg and Jeff White's book, The Lazarus Heist. Paola Mejia wrote this episode, additional writing by Satya Cole and Sarah Haggi. Jen Swan is our senior producer. Our producer is John Reed. Our associate producers are Charlotte Miller and Tate Busby.

Sarah Enny is our story editor. Our senior story editor is Rachel B. Doyle. Additional research by Chisol Mpeter Joke. Our music supervisor is Scott Velasquez for Free Sun Sync. Aegean Tapia provided audio assistance. Our sound design is by J. Rothman. Our executive producers are Janine Cornelot, Stephanie Gens and Marshal Lumi for Wundery.

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