Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - A Shady Publicist, A Tiny Penis & A Homewrecking Whore

Episode Date: August 7, 2026

Kiki and Krystina are back in the studio with Scheana, and absolutely nothing is off limits. From friendship drama and fashion emergencies to the latest headlines rocking the VPR universe, the trio dives headfirst into the week's biggest stories—including Brittany Cartwright finally breaking her silence on ex Jax's affair with their shared publicist, Lori, Jax's eyebrow-raising "Smartwater campaign," and Tom Sandoval's court filing that exposed his "tiny penis." They also take a thoughtful moment to discuss the recent Perez Hilton situation, social media's obsession with turning real-life crises into content, and where accountability ends and compassion begins. Then it's onto House of Stassi as they break down the premiere, Katie Maloney's glow-up, and whether Stassi's newest friendship raises questions about the very standards she once famously held others to. Kiki and Krystina also share their perspectives on the changing landscape of Black representation in reality television and whether the industry is taking a step backward. Plus, Scheana responds to comments made about her on House of Stassi, revisits the timeline behind one fractured friendship, and starts wondering if she should start billing storyline fees every time a reality show she doesn't appear on uses her as a plotline. Tune in for all the tea! Follow us: @scheana @scheananigans Co-Hosts: @thetalkofshame @krystinaarielle Purchase your very own copy of the NYT Best-selling book/audiobook MY GOOD SIDE at www.mygoodsidebook.com!Episode Sponsors:Shop at http://REVOLVE.com/GOODASGOLD and use code GOODASGOLDfor 15% off your first order. #REVOLVEpartnerJoin Wayfair Rewards today to get 5% back on every purchase and start saving on your next home upgrade. Head to Wayfair.com to shop all things home.Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.Produced by Dear Media.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The following podcast is a dear media production. From Vanderpump Rules to Motherhood and everywhere in between. Warm up the kettle. It's time to spill some tea. Let's get into some shenanigans with Shea Shea. Welcome back for another week of shenanigans. Got my girls in the studio with me this week. Kiki Monique, Christina Ariel.

How we doing? I know you were just in New York. You were at GenCon. Where was that? That was in Indianapolis. That's right. And then before that, you had Comic-Con? I was in New York for Spider-Man.

They did this, like, cool thing where they showed, like, Spider-Man, like, leaping from one building to the building where we were for the rooftop party. And they put a Spider-Man suit in my room, so I had a full, like, officially licensed Spider-Man suit with, like, not flat, regular cosplay things, but, like, actual tennis shoes built into it. And I cried and fell on the floor, and I was so excited. So I went from there to San Diego Comic-Con to do coverage, like, looking for Spider-Man, made on the floor and do some promotion for brand new day. And then I went and I ran my own first Dungeons and Dragons game as the lead storyteller.

And my first MPC they meet is Beyonce and I'm very proud of that. I don't know what that means, but I love that for you. It's a non-player. And NPC is a non-player character. I do know that from a movie I watched with like Ryan Reynolds or someone, I don't know. And then I went to Jen Con in Indianapolis. Wow. Fun.

I will say when you said Spider-Man, it reminded me. Did you guys see those two base jumpers who crawled over and jumped off the space needle in Seattle? Like a week after I was just at the Space Needle in Seattle. Oh, wait. They climbed the... That was the Empire State Building. Wait.

Yeah, no, no. This is not... Nothing to do with Spider-Man. I was like, if they were going to do that, they should have dressed as Spider-Man. I was not to say, were they? Yeah, I know. I would love that.

But the way they climbed the glass. Like, I just posted my vlog today where I'm like, see, it's glass, you can lean on it. You can't do anything. But these guys just like Spider-Man, like climbed it and then jumped off and parachuted. Oh. They're like looking for them. I just could never live that life.

No. That is too terrifying. I have high blood pressure. Yeah. I have high cholesterol and it's gotten even freaking higher. But thanks to function health, who's not an ad on this podcast, but they were, I think. You can use code good as gold still. I found out it's even higher than it was last year.

Oh. Okay. That was a beautiful segue. Yeah. Like, that's a professional right there. And my cortisol levels were a little bit out of range. And I'm like, I walked away from reality TV to lower my cortisol. Now I'm out of range.

What the fuck? I feel so much more at peace. Just being a viewer, you know? But are you a viewer? I feel like you're still part of it. I feel like you're still on my screen all the time. Yeah, because on the Valley reunion part one, I'm like, should the word of the night be Sheena? Every time you hear my name take a drink?

I haven't watched it yet. Okay. Well, at least three or four. Really? Yeah. Well, Sheena's not here to film. Well, Sheena's the one with this. And Sheena, I'm like,

No, Janet, I was not the one looking up Lacey. That was you. You are the millennial Kevin Bacon. I can see that. The Kevin Bacon of Reality TV. There was a whole, like, text thread. There was a thread on threads where people were talking about. They were like, yeah, she was the millennials.

Like, I live in Oklahoma and I'm even one degree of separation away from Tina. I love that. And then you were just in New York. Yes. How was that? That was good. They had the Real House Wives. Roaring 20th for the Ultimate Girl's Trip

that's premiering on Sunday. And it was like the Oscars of Housewives. Oh, I love that. Everyone was there. Portia and Shimea were both there, which I thought was interesting. It did not look like they interacted.

I did meet Portia Stylist and he was very cool. But yeah, like everyone was there. Obviously, like the main characters, Kyle, Dorinda, obviously, Luan. And... Arendia? No Nini.

I know. So I thought Angela Oakley would be there. The whole next-gen NYC cast was there as well. Oh, I saw you with Riley on your carousel. I was like, you know, this is a Riley, we protect Riley here. I was like, no slander on my page for Riley. So yeah, it was a super fun party. We partied all night and yeah.

Fun. Yeah. Nice. You're like in the mix. I love it. I like to be in the mix. I mean, like there's like there are parties that are worth flying into New York for and I was like, this is going to be one of them, even if I'm going to be exhausted.

Oh, for sure. I would have too. Yeah. I had a girls dinner this weekend at Boulevard. And I was like, I have to tell the story on the podcast. So it's me, Christy, my friend Sarah, and then two of my high school friends, Michelle and Alexis. And we're just at Boulevard, normal girls dinner. But I mean, it's five of us all dressed up, makeup, you know.

My girls looked good. And I guess I was okay too. So this guy walks over to our table and just. sits down at our booth. And for all I know, he's, like, best friends with the owner. Like, Christy's husband is an investor. My friend's husband is the executive chef in one of the owners. So I'm like, maybe he's here with, like, one of the guys.

And they're, like, sending drinks over, whatnot. So he sits down and just starts talking to us. And then I realize, oh, you're just like a creep kind of, like, hitting on us. Yeah. And I was like, so single, I take it? And he goes, no, I'm married. And I'm like, where's the ring? And then he just, he was saying weird off-the-cuff things.

And he was like, oh, so are you girls just like friends because you're all hot or like this and that? And I was like, well, we went to high school together. I met her last week. And I was like joking but not because this girl, Sarah, she's my neighbor. I literally did meet her just a couple weeks ago. But what? Do you know her? She's dating a guy in his name.

Yes. Okay. So her. Yes. Yeah. So funny. So that was one of the things she said. She was like, wait, Brock, you met this guy who, Magic Castle, blah, blah, blah.

So funny. So we hit it off very quickly. We have so many mutual friends. We were both going to warp tour. It was her birthday. And so we just became like fast friends over the last couple weeks. So I'm kind of joking. Because he's like, oh, you're just friends because you're hot.

And I was like, well, hurry. I just met her last week. I'm like, you're cool. Let's be friends. And then I shake his hand. I'm like, enjoy your night. And then I realize I was like, ew, I need to go wash my hands like before I eat. So I go to the bathroom.

When I think it's going to be two seconds in the bathroom, quick wash my hands. I walk into this girl's fashion emergency. She has a one piece, like a full body suit on. The zipper has broken. And I'm like, oh no, oh no, what do we do? And so she has one friend in there. So I'm trying to like hold it up while she's like trying to get dipped in it. And then they're like, this isn't working.

This isn't working. The girl like runs out. So now I'm just in there with her. And I'm like, I got you. I won't leave. And she's like, I have long hair. Like maybe I can just cover it and walk out. And like, I mean, it's all the way down.

And I'm like, what do you do? Yeah, what do you do? Like, you're out, you're at a nice restaurant for dinner. And now just everything. She had big boobs, big booty. Like, it was such a good outfit on her. And so her other friend comes in and then I go out to the manager and I'm like, do you guys have any safety pins?

Like a sewing kit. I go to the table. I'm telling the girls. And then my friend Alexis, she works on set, makeup artist and whatnot. She's like, I can do wardrobe. Like, let me help. And there was no helping this poor girl. But her friend had a sweater in the car.

Okay. But I was like, wow, I was just going to wash my hands from the creepy guy and ended up helping a fashion. That's like my worst. That's like my worst. I have this one body suit that it's literally like it zips up all the way. And I'm like, and I'm like, I can fit it now, but I'm too scared to leave the house in it because I'm like what happens? Like if that zipper doesn't hold up. I was at a Marvel premiere and it was at the cemetery.

Like at like, and it was like in the dark one. I like, I'm creeped out by it because I'm like some. ghost. But they were having like Marvel Zombies like screening. I step out of my car and my dress just goes like the top is still class. The zipper is down at the bottom. I'm just sitting there. The zipper's in the front? No, the zipper was like down at the bottom of my back. And so like my friend helps me get back into it and I'm like, I'm fine. I go sit down. I'm eating my popcorn. I just hear. No, no. And I have to like get up and run into the bathroom and bless the women's restroom where you meet the kindest people in the world because these women came and like suck me back into that dress and

like made it work and then happened again at Dancing with the Stars and they sewed me into my dress in wardrobe. It was wicked night at Dancing with the Stars and my dress popped open and like bless Ariana. She tells them like, oh, somebody help her. They go and they take me and they sewed me into my dress and I never got to wear that dress again because that they bless them. Those people are some talented seamstresses. Yeah. I had a fashion emergency. This was like not too long. long after I had moved to L.A. And it was still kind of COVID time. So there was random mask around.

And I will tell you why that's important. I had this jumpsuit that I wore all the time. And here's the thing. I'm a granny-panny girl. I don't wear thongs. I really don't. But I was like trying to be sexy that night. So I threw on a thong.

Bad mistake. Because this was the night that this jumpsuit decided to split in the ass. But I didn't know it until my friend was walking behind me. And she was like, oh, my God, your entire ass is out. And we were basically had to go to another event. And like, we're not in a place where I can go home or anything like that. And we're like, what do we do? We had a black mask.

And we basically just like put black mask in my ass. And like we couldn't and we just kind of just had to keep him in place like with a jumpsuit. And I was like, that's all we can do right now. That's brilliant improvisation though. Literally. Well, there is so much to get into this week. I swear the amount of headlines that came out of like the VPR Valley universe is actually kind of insane. So I don't know where to begin. We have Brittany who finally broke her silence on Jackson

Lori, which flowers to Brittany. I mean, good for her. Jacks, speaking of, apparently got caught faking a smart water brand campaign. And I'm telling you guys, I was walking around yesterday in Santa Barbara with a bottle of smart water. And I felt like I could do it. I was like, to keep it in my bag. My mom was like, oh, you're shooting anything. I was like, I had like my vlog camera. And I was like, Oh my God, I feel like I can't drink smart water anymore. Like, you ruined smart water. Can I just say it reminds me a Zoolander? Like, all I can think about is what if they actually did have this deal and it'd be like, water is the essence.

It's like, that's all I can figure is like, it's a burn man, pop. And then I saw you posted today that the court ruled that Raquel's case against Ariana will move forward to trial, which in my opinion is bullshit. And we have more to say on that. Speaking of also, Tom Sandoval complaining that Victoria said he has a tiny penis. Yeah, why would you admit that? I mean, it's like things that you couldn't like waterboard, like information out of me. Then the, I don't know. And of course, you know, I'm just a storyline on another show on Hulu, brought up on the Valley reunion this week.

And I'm just like, where's my check? I'm not even getting paid. My name just keeps coming out of everyone's mouth. I know. You should be getting residuals at this point. Lala. Jason, Janet, and Andy on the reunion. All four of them said your name.

Stasi, Christina. I don't know if he did, but I'm like, it just, yeah. So, okay, but before we get into all of that, there was an incident online recently. And before we discussed, I did want to let listeners know that this conversation includes discussions of mental health and self-harm. And if that's something difficult for you, just like skip ahead to the next segment. And just a reminder that if you come across videos or images of someone experiencing a mental health crisis, please don't share them or seek them out. Those moments deserve compassion and privacy, not amplification.

Perez Hilton is someone I would consider a friend. I've known him for many years. He was on my podcast as one of my first guest back at Podcast 1 years ago. And we've stayed in touch. I see him in Vegas often. And I just wanted to take a minute to talk about what happened because this was genuinely heartbreaking. So if you didn't follow it,

Perez appeared to be experiencing a very serious mental health crisis during a TikTok live. And from everything that's been reported, he was exhibiting very concerning behavior and engaging in self-harm. It's all on TikTok live for, I heard it was about 30 minutes. The police responded to his home and after reportedly what became a several hours standoff

while crisis negotiators worked to de-escalate the situation, he was safely taken to the hospital for treatment. His family released a statement today saying he's receiving medical care and I'm really glad to hear that. I'm also glad to hear that his kids were not with him at the time that this happened. So hopefully, you know, they never have to see any of this. And I also just want to say this again. I've been told not to watch the videos or seek them out, and I would encourage anyone listening to do the same. No one needs to consume someone's worst moment as entertainment.

And one thing I've noticed online is that there are a lot of comments saying this is karma because of how Perez treated people years ago. And look, I understand where that's coming from. There were a lot of people, including me, who were hurt, mocked by him over the years, stuff drawn on our face and whatnot. But I just don't agree with celebrating something like this. That's just never the answer. Perez has publicly acknowledged that the way he operated back then caused real harm and he's apologized for it on multiple occasions. People can grow and learn from their mistakes.

You know, that doesn't erase the past, but also I don't think someone's lowest moment is an opportunity. for all of us to pile on. That's just dark. It's unnecessary and it's just unkind. Did either of you see any of this unfold or have you? Yeah. Unfortunately, like I, it was like right after the Real Housewives party and someone like DM me. And so I just was like, of course, went to Twitter X, whatever and saw that video.

And I watched it on the way to the other party and I was like, why did I do that? Like that was horrifying. And that was my immediate reaction was like, the part I hate about this is there are going to be people who are celebrating this because they feel like he deserves this. And I just, and there was one comment. I remember someone said, because someone made a video, you know, going through all of his past, you know, behaviors. And someone said, I get all that, but like I cannot turn off my empathy. It's just not something I can do. And I feel the same way.

Like I don't care like how bad someone was at some point. Like this is a human being who's going through a crisis and we don't know. I know people are speculating on the sepsis. He's a dad. He's a son. Yeah, but he has kids. Exactly. It's just like I feel so bad.

His mother, you know, is older and all of those things. It's horrible. I know. I saw them last year at Rise Festival. It was him, his kids, his mom. And I just see someone I've always kept in touch with. And it's like you truly don't know. what's going on inside someone's head

and closed doors. It was just heartbreaking. I saw a couple seconds of it, thankfully blurred, just heard his voice and I was like noop, no, no, no, new, new. And you can disable auto play on your Instagram and other like social media sites because I unfortunately had to

learn that the hard way watching people get murdered in broad daylight over and over again that look like me. So please just remember to disable that because no matter what like just give people their humanity and a time that they're going through it. It doesn't matter what you're feeling about it. Just you don't have to delight in it.

You can just keep it moving. And also another thing that someone of my followers said when I said, don't watch this video. She was like, thank you. And then she said, I've put filters with his name in it just so that videos with his name won't even come up in my algorithm. Yeah. So it's like that could also be a way to like avoid that sort of thing. And then someone sent me a message or a post today that said, and I don't know how real this is, but if you do see videos that are very graphic and violent, supposedly plain Tetris can help, I guess, something with your brain, like, get back to a normal place.

I don't know the science behind it. It was just something that someone had posted. And I don't know why Tetris specifically. I do love Tetris. It's kind of like if you're having a panic attack, if you, like, I keep warheads on me just in case because like the sourness. of the warhead shocks your brain so much that it kind of like allows your body a moment to calm down.

That's one of my like favorite coping mechanisms especially when stuff is like intense. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean with this, you know, it's like at the end of the day my biggest thought is his kids. And they they need their dad. You know, they need a healthy parent. So it's like

whatever your opinion of Pres Hilton is, I just I hope that he gets the help he needs. He has the time and privacy to recover and that his family is doing okay. I'm just sending all of my thoughts and prayers. And before we move on and take a break, I just want to reiterate that if you or someone you know is struggling with their mental health

or experiencing thoughts of self-harm or suicide, please know that help is available. You don't have to go through it alone. If you're in the U.S. or Canada, you can call or text 988 to reach the suicide and crisis lifeline anytime 24-7. And if you're elsewhere, just please contact your local crisis service.

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See you Wednesday. Okay. We're back and moving on to some people who don't deserve our grace, and that's Jackson Lori. So Brittany's interview with People Drop today, did you all watch it? I listened to, I think. I saw like two parts of it popped up. Yeah.

And so now I get why she was like, everyone don't talk about it until I do because she wanted this to come out in the right way. She wanted to have time to gather her thoughts. It didn't deserve an emergency podcast the day the TMZ thing came out, you know? So this is the first time that she's publicly addressing everything head on. I've intentionally held back from really discussing that relationship between docs and Lori because, you know, out of respect for Britney. obviously, but now that she has shared her perspective, she said, go in.

Okay. So, you guys, I was there the night that the rumors started a couple years ago. I get a 911 text from Kristen with zero context. Just 911 for Brittany. I'm calling Kristen. I'm texting her. She's not answering. Thankfully, you know, I have everyone's location.

Yeah. And so Brock was like. Like, Brittany was at an Airbnb at the time. And he's like, for all we know, Jacks is there with like a gun or something. Like, you're not going over there. Absolutely not. He's like, all we know is 911 Britney.

And now that's it. Yeah. So, I mean, Kristen, she wasn't pregnant at the time. I don't even know. Oh, I think it was her dog. Okay. Her dog was very, very sick at the time. And so she had to get back to her dog.

And so Brock was like, what's her location? Like, I'll go there. So Brock goes over. knocks on the door. Brittany is like shocked to see Brock, but then just like breaks down and was like, oh my God, did Kristen like tell you guys?

And so that night, it ended up, Brock and I switched places. Janet came over. We were just trying to figure out if this was true. I was on the phone. Not proud to say this,

but with Tom Sandival and Victoria, because they were in Canada with Jackson Lorry on this trip. And Schwartz wasn't answering. was like, Sandoval might answer. Like, I was desperate. I was like, I will get whatever information I can. Yeah.

And Victoria, in that moment, was very much a girl's girl and was like, I'm going to get to the bottom of this. I'm going to go listen at her door. Like, it was a whole investigation. We were doing that. But can I ask, when Brittany got the information, was it because someone posted something online? How did she initially?

Okay, it was on, okay. Yeah. And then there were like the photos that were posted and whatnot. Got it. And so I think someone, what it was, yeah, the Reddit thing, but it was that someone saw them coming out of a bathroom together. Okay. And like, heard them or whatever it was. Yes.

To quote the ancient sacred text, season one, Van derPump Rules, we have a history of behavior and bathrooms. Yeah. So from my perspective, that it wasn't a rumor. Like, that shit was going on. The next day, I was in touch with Victoria. And she said, oh, so Lori was supposed to come to the event with us tonight. She just canceled her hair and makeup. And like, this and then, girl was acting suss.

Yeah. So that night, I literally had, like, messaging Mark at 1 a.m. I was like, okay, Britney's publicist is fired. I'm going to need you to just, like, step in, help her. We need to set up some meetings. Janet, get her a divorce attorney. We're doing this. Like, we had everything, like, ready to go for her the next day.

Yeah. But then Cruz had occupational therapy the next day. She's just obviously going through it emotionally. And then fucking Lori got in her head and was like, I would never, I would never. And she believed her. And then continued to work with her. But like that night when we were at her house, it was just like, you're a fucking snake. Yeah.

Like I. But it has to be worse like to keep her on like not only like confiding in her but like probably confiding in her about her son telling her her feelings while this is still happening and to just be that like you have to be kind of wary of people

that are like that. It's like managers PR people that are just like so forward facing and needing to be in the mix. Like that kind of stuff can be dangerous and like when I think about Lori Kay I know Lori Kay the Bachelor like all of the like San Diego people like

immediately like Dylan and all those people. Yeah. Hannah stopped working with her a couple years ago. Mm-hmm. And I did watch and in Big Brother World, I did watch a Pauley Calli Fiori break down. Oh my God. That was a long ass video. I couldn't get through

the whole thing, but I was like, I already know this woman to fuck. But no, it's a deep betrayal because she is deeply in that girl's business. She was deeply in her face. She used her for visibility and you're probably also taking stuff back in pillow talk and giving this man information on her that he should not have access to,

is already, like, bad enough. Like, the only reason I used to be, like, keep this man on TV is because I, like, somebody needs to have a camera on that man because whatever, like, he just, she doesn't feel safe for her in those situations. And that's the thing, I don't know, like men with fragile egos

that cannot take criticism to be on the other side of something like this. That's always, like, irksome to me. So, since Brittany read a text on the people thing, I would like to read my text the last time I heard from Lori. Oh. I, of course, discussed this on my podcast a couple years ago when all of this was happening. Because I'm like, this bitch is a fucking snake.

Yeah. So it was May 24. I did a podcast. I talked about it. She messages me. Hi, Sheena. I hope you are well. I'm not writing to convince you to believe something one way or the other because clearly you have your opinions on the situation.

But all I ask is that you please reframe, refram. reframe, not Refrain. Reframing. I think you're reframing what happened, but okay. From commenting or talking about me publicly, you hold a lot of weight in this universe. Thank you.

And fueling these rumors is so damaging to my family. Maybe don't talk your friend's husband. I don't know. You are a mother, and I have two little boys and a husband that don't deserve this. Oh yeah, she was still married

at the time when all this is happening. I know you don't owe me anything at all, but I've always been kind to you, respected you and even worked on several deals for you. Going back to like the pandemic, her and Ryan, Britney's manager, that they had something. They're like, oh, I got this offer for you, Britney and Kristen. If you want to jump in on this, I'm like, sure, or whatever.

I'm hoping you can kindly respect this request. If not for me, for my family. I'm trying to just move forward and focus on my family and livelihood that provides for them. I'm sure you've been going through a lot too. And I hope you and your family are holding up okay. If you'd like to call me, I'm always available. As you can see, I've never messaged her. again or even acknowledge that text.

I was just like, no, no, no. And the next time I saw her was at Jackson's bar when Brittany had decided to believe her, forgive her, and Britney sees the rage in my eyes. And she was just like, Sheena. And I was like, for you, I will be kind. Yeah. And Lori came up and she was like, hi, Sheena. And I think it was like a half-ass like hug.

And I was just like, hi. Oh, my God. She could feel it. Yeah. Don't fucking talk to me, bitch. I see you for who you are. My picker and radar and so many things were off for so many years. But I do feel like in the last year and a half, two years, it's gotten a little better.

Yeah. Post-season 11, sadly. But yeah. So looking back, I do understand why Brittany chose to believe her version of events. I think that was definitely easier. You know, her and Jax were separated, but I think there could have still been a part where hoping, you know, maybe eventually, like, he does go to rehab, he gets on the right meds, he changes, they could have this family. I think there was still hope there, and that's why she hadn't filed for divorce yet. Yeah.

It's just easier to believe that a betrayal isn't happening. Yeah. Yeah. You don't want to, like, it's so much easier to live in denial, right? And, like, because when you start thinking about all the things you have to do when it's true, it becomes overwhelming. And I know she was probably already dealing with already so many things

with her son. Obviously their marriage was not in a great place already. Like you just don't want to, you start thinking about like, what do we do with the house? What do we do with the like custody? And you're just like,

no, if you're going to tell me you're not sleeping with them, I'm just going to believe you because it's easier. And this woman wasn't only Britney's publicist. Like this was one of her nearest,

dearest, closest friends. She also has, I'm not sure if both of the twins have special needs, but I know that she at home has a similar situation that Brittany has with Cruz. And so that was something that Brittany was like very open with her out because, you know, you don't understand what like to have a child with special needs until you do.

And so to have this woman to also be like a soundboard for her, I mean, it wasn't just a publicist. Like their relationship went so deep. And she was deeply involved in Brittany's business, her career. Like just everything. And obviously her relationship. Because even if, let's say she wasn't telling her stuff herself, it was on TV. Like we were very aware of every situation that's happening in her life. And there's nothing more intimate.

Yeah. And just like if there's a part in the interview where she talks about the fact that like on one of her very worst nights, it wasn't just like Janet and Jason there. Like, it was Lori there with her. Yeah. Like holding her while she cried. And there's like a certain. like, I don't know, like, there's just an extra level of just, like, being diabolical. Yeah.

It just kind of lives in that space. And listen, but however, shout out to Brittany because her sensory room, like, those swings. Oh, my God. It's incredible. Like, she deserves so many, like, just props for the, like, the attentiveness that she does. Like, the one, I wish, I have three children. My house is never going to be that clean. She just is like so put together and takes such like has taken such great control over her life

And so I hope that this is not like like people that like to blame a woman for a man's action Yeah, this is not on her. She has rebuilt her life, put herself into a position to make life better for herself and her child. And like that man should be the least of her worries and that lady should be the least of her worries too because she is going to thrive beyond that. And for them to say that it only became romantic in the last couple of months, give me a fucking break. Yeah. I'm wondering, honestly, if it ever stopped over the last two years. Like, did it ever stop?

Because that's where I just, I'm like, you guys, you did what you did. Sure, maybe you didn't. You did what you did. Yeah. You got caught. Yeah. You got forgiven and believed as if that wasn't the wake-up call. Like, you're going to go and do it again?

Yeah. And then this time just throw your whole. whole life, career, friendships, everything away. Yeah. No. For Jacks? Could you guys imagine throwing everything away for Jason Couchy? No.

I can't. No, for any man, honestly. Like, I can't. No. And I feel like now Brittany has to revisit all of this with like an entirely different lens. You know, every conversation like she was saying when Lori would ask like who she's dating this and that.

It's like, were you just getting information for Jacks? Every piece of advice. Every time that. encourage her or maybe discourage her from making a certain decision, whether it's a brand deal or personal or a statement that makes like one of them look a certain type of way or refraining from being like, oh, well, you can't say that about him and be so bad. Like, how is he going to be able to send money to you and provide for you when like he can't get these deals? And she probably has put aside so much of her own personal like weight and baggage. Yeah.

in the name of protecting somebody that wouldn't protect her in a fire. Yeah. And Brittany, I will say, has also shown a tremendous amount of restraint when it comes to what she's chosen to publicly talk about with Jacks because, trust me, I know I've seen the videos,

I've seen the text, I've seen so much. There's a reason why he's not on the show anymore. Yeah. Because people have seen the videos. Yeah. And she has chosen to not see. any of that. And now it's like, I'm wondering. So I wonder if she's wondering, was like some of that advice to, you know, like, protect him, like Lori protecting him and being like, no, no, no,

you shouldn't share any of this because X, Y, and Z. Well, it could have been that. But I also truly believe, which is why I did not believe Jacks for a second when he said, Britney is trying to ruin brand deals actively. I said, I don't believe that for a second because I know that she wants her son. She wants you to give you. And so, yeah, she needs you to have revenue. And so I don't believe that for a second. So yes, Lori could have been in her ear, but I also think that she was like,

I need him to like be, you know. Can I tell you? Oddly, Jack Taylor is doing very well on cameo because I'm always in their top 100 creators. Yeah. And so every day there's a leaderboard.

Yeah. And I think today I was 33. I went up to 22. Okay. He is in the top 15 every fucking day on the leaderboard. And I'm like, I know what I'm making. Yeah.

And I think he charges more than I do. Wow. And the fact that he has been still, as of this morning, in the top 10 to top 15, is wild. That is wild. So stop booking it. I'm just kidding. No, keep booking him. I'm talking to me about nerd stuff on came in.

No, keep booking him because Brittany has a lot of bills that she has to take care of, not just for herself in the house, but for her son. Yeah. For school, for therapy, for all of these things. It should be a 50-50 contribution. Yeah. Like. Absolutely. So anyways, we're not even there yet, but Jackson Lurie are my jacksholes.

And Britney gets all my flowers because she deserves them. And yeah, I don't even think it's possible to rebuild trust after this level of betrayal. You know, like there's no coming back from this. Yeah, no, not at all. You came back from it once. You don't get to come back. It's like, full me once. No.

You know, but they're, no, no, no, no. No, they need to have like no contact. I will say, I know we don't really talk about her too much in the show. But Lala was on Jeff Lewis. And I was just listening to her relationship with Randall. And the thing I thought was interesting, she has this essentially, it's a text message program. Yeah, it's called our family wizard. Yeah.

And I thought it was like this is like the OFW. Yeah. I'm like, I think this is how all couples who are in this position need to communicate. Because essentially like it never gets deleted. And if you start getting too aggressive, it will be like, nope, you're too aggressive and like give you a warning. And I'm like, you know what? I think that's where Brittany and Jacks need to be at this point. I think they are communicating on that because she said like, oh, he said in the app or whatever that he was going to be out of town.

Okay. In California, it's like it's part of the whole process. Like even going back to like years ago with our stuff, like it's just part of it. Okay. Yeah. So that is a good thing. Any no more toxic men soon. Got to have all these apps for these toxic men.

Right? What the fuck? And let's stop giving them a platform. Well. Except in their shoes I love reality TV What I mean? Because I don't know like

What? Okay yes toxic toxic men Good reality We gotta figure out We gotta find where's the line Exactly Yeah That's the thing

Because you want the entertainment But when it's so dark Yes Agreed You gotta draw the line And that's why he's not in the show anymore Yes You know?

Like I love reality TV Like as a like Conscious Observer of the Human form It is like We always talk about We want these dynamic portrayals of women in these like varied like show the context the layers we get all of that in these shows we get people who are at their lowest we get people and i think that sometimes what we see is dark so

much is like the things that reflect the things that we are trying to escape from so when the escapism becomes that thing that you're trying to escape from it's just a hard pill to swallow that like oh no like the monsters exist and now they're on my tv too yeah and i will say i was falling for the changed Jacks Taylor bullshit recently. He had reached out a couple times, just like checking in and said, you know, he's like on his meds, he's doing therapies, a year and a half, whatever, sober, this and that.

We talked about stepping away from reality TV and he's like, it's been so good for my mental health and this and that. I'm like, wow, this is like a different jacks. And then at Jasmine and Melissa's wedding, Brittany and I are talking and I go, I'm going to be honest, he reached out to me, a few days ago or last week.

And it was just like a really nice exchange, like hoping that she would be like, yeah, he's been better. And she goes, oh, I'm glad it's nice with you. And she's like, do you want me to show you what he says to me? And I was like, oh, okay, I'm a fucking idiot. Like, I fell for it again. And I'm like, no, no, no.

There's a whole word for it, Sheena. He's. Jaxed. Yeah. Yeah. But I just really, it was like, it made me so happy. Just like the way he was speaking. and it seemed like, finally, you're getting help.

Like, this is great for your son. It's like when people go to therapy and they get therapy words to get themselves out of situations. And it's like they don't actually apply the behavior. Yeah. They are just like, oh, man, I've just changed so much and I've gotten so introspective.

And, like, they'll throw in, like, a really, like, random, like, word that they wouldn't normally use just to be like, look, even my word length has grown. Yeah. What are we doing? I mean, do we talk about the Smartwater of it all? The whole situation is just bizarre.

No, I mean, as soon as I saw that picture, I was like, there's absolutely no way Smartwater hired this guy. I was literally like, this has got to be fake, right? Right. So he's known for doing stuff like that too. Like he'll post like luggage and it's like literally like out of Nordstrom or whatever. But he's like, thanks like to me or whatever. Like he would do stuff like that over the. years, like thanking brands, but like he wasn't actually being gifted or like working with that.

Do you think he was getting this advice from Lori? Like, who was giving this advice that this is a good idea? So anyone who missed it, Brittany shared on her podcast that Smartwater actually reached out to let her know they had nothing to do with the content that Jacks was posting. He had shared photos by the pool with Smartwater bottles, tagged it like it was a partnership. And apparently the brand was like, yeah, that's not us. And then Jacks came back and said he genuinely believed it was real campaign. Then after that, Brittany and Kristen shared what they believe are receipts showing that the documents he sent them and then posted to social media were AI generated. At least it looked like AI info, like in the top left corner. So like when I first saw this post, I mean,

I was shocked that Smartwater was working for him. But again, my first thought is good for him because what's good for him is good for Cruz. Good for Britney. That's all I thought. And I honestly didn't even fully watch it. I don't follow him anymore, whatever. So I'm like, it's not impossible, but it caught me off guard because I was like, hmm, that's a big brand to be working with Jack's Taylor. Maybe they have something in the sobriety world. I don't know. I don't know. However, they do have the opportunity to jump on this pre-made marketing campaign and hire one Britney Cartwright, have her hanging out and then have Zach in the corner going. Yeah. And just, listen, it's right there. Rights itself, people. Come on. Just throw it on during the Valley Reunion.

Boom. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, did you think it looked legitimate? No, I mean, I just didn't think it was, I was just kind of like, there's no way that we went from Jennifer Aniston to Jacks Taylor. Like, that's not, the smart water is not targeting. No. No.

I told you it's a zoo lander. Yeah. Okay. Where do we go next? House of Stasi, have you guys watched? I did. I was going to and then like a weird thing happened and so I didn't. What weird thing happened?

I just, it was, like, I hate... Okay, so I made a video about how... Say it with your chest. How, you know, when I saw the premiere party for House of Stasi, how... Obviously, I was like, okay, the cast is all white, fine. I don't believe in, like, injecting, you know, diversity. It doesn't fit, even though I do think it's weird if you live in L.A. and New York. I don't have a different friends.

I think it's weird. But anyways, what I stood out to me was that none of the creators at the party that were showing up on my feed were black creators. It was all white creators who had the party. And then I did, you know, someone did confirm. He was like, yeah, there weren't any black creators that I saw at the party because he was there. And so I just thought that was weird because I was like, okay, if I had gotten, you know, accused of being racist, I would think that I would want to reach out to people to say, I want you to watch the show. I want you to know that, like, this show is also for you. The video I made, though, was really, I used it as an example, but it was really just about how I,

I thought that the reality TV industry was sort of like kind of getting trickled down from what was happening. It's DEI as a whole, right? We were seeing like a bunch of like black producers, black positions and those sorts of things go away. And I'm like, maybe the black reality space is also going away. We're losing love and hip-hop. We're losing a lot of black reality shows. That was really the point of the video. Anyway, so I made that video.

It went pretty good about, like lots of comments and stuff like that. Yeah. Anyways, the next day, I'm scrolling. Obviously, there's like a lot of House of Stasi feed. And then I see a post from Stasi showed or show up in my feed. And then it said, follow. And I was like, I thought I followed her. Like, I don't know if I did, but I was like pretty sure I did.

Did she remove you as a follower? Well, that's what I thought. Because I was like, I thought I followed her. So then I was like, I don't, again, I don't think she manages her social media. But if someone who was managing her social media, I know how the algorithm works. I was going viral. Maybe it showed up in the feed. Maybe they thought, I want to remove this because it's like negative from the feed.

removed this person as a follower. So anyways, what that said to me was like, we're not worried about you liking our show. We don't care if you want to watch it. And so that was sort of kind of like, why, I wanted to watch it. But now I feel like you don't care and you don't want me to be a part of it. So then I won't. But I don't know. Maybe I'm just like, I don't know. I mean, I think it's easy to feel that way because I always do this. Like when I go and I look at like someone's profile and you, if I have to scroll back 50 11 years to see that you even know a black person, I feel a certain type of way about it. Yeah. Because it's like it's not far fetched to have like a feeling of like, is this person safe to me and my world?

Do I want to invite that into my, do I want to invite that into my space? And we don't want to check and make sure we're safe all the time. People just want to live and exist and be able to just be a person and not be othered even in their friend groups. But it's like that's just the reality of the world that we. live in. And it is, you get tired of seeing shows that have absolutely nothing to do with you. Like, yeah, there's entertainment value. And we've all grown up on this same type of media. So there's no choice but to like have some form of an investment. But when there's no like investment back into you, it's kind of hard to sit there and kind of take that in. Yeah. And it's like, and I did.

I watched it from very like, I watch reality TV. You watch all a episode? I watch. I guess. I watch like, I watch like I watch reality TV. It's what I do. I've, enjoyed it for years going back to real world. And so I did try to watch it as like an objective, like, viewer. However, I did, like, I was live threading my thoughts, obviously. And oh, I didn't see that. Because, like, just as I usually do. Like, I talk about everything, Summer House, all the stuff.

And especially if it goes back to that world because, like, I'm a Bravo base. But it's, like, I enjoyed it as a reality show. I love a fourth wall break. I think that's fantastic. Did you think it was too much of it? I've seen discourse around like... I understand. Because I love a fourth wall break.

I love a fourth wall break. And I love a fourth wall break, especially if you're beefing with your spouse. And I want to see kind of like the like thing. And it's like, it was very real. Like imagine your like the tension of film and a reality show and then you turn around and now you've got beef with your partner. Yeah. And like those kinds of things. Like you don't intend for that to be the storyline.

But it becomes it. I'm watching because one, I love one K. Katie Menlonia. I just do. Like, I got to see Dana and her beautiful brunette hair. I'm watching. Yeah, and Ariana's there. She's got her, like, I love, look, they got all my brunettes. I mean, the thing is, she's going to support Katie.

She's going to show up and do that. Yeah, it wasn't a scene with Stasi. That actually would have surprised me. It also helps promote the sandwich shop. It's like, she's not in there, like, being messy doing any of that kind of stuff. Yeah. But it's, I don't know. Like, the, yes, I did say that Sheena's living rent-free on this show, because it was so unnecessary,

especially when Jesse comes in and Kastasi was hosting some event with the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. She sits down at the table. Well, I mean, it's a crossover. She hosted the reunion. No, no, I'm saying what she said about me. Oh, well, obviously.

It was like, I have tea, and it's about Sheena, and you're, like, giddy at the fact of, like, I know that she dislikes this person. So let me, like, curry favor by, like, just saying whatever I can, especially when we all know the context and we've heard, like, the podcast where you said, like, and acknowledged it,

like that you're joking on your live, like, on your book tour, you acknowledged it with her on stage that it was a joke. It literally was planned before the show with Jesse and Demeter. They're like, like, what could we do? That could be like a funny prank and, like, Jesse was in on it. Yes, but so then to take that and weaponize it and put it into a situation where you know, like, you claim to be friend, but you're also now talking to someone that considers me and I while I'm chilling at my house.

And it's like you, like, it was unnecessary to just kind of pop that in there. And it's like, Sheena loves attention. Sheena loves. And it's like, I mean, the show is self-titled. Like, respectfully, you are on reality TV as well. So those kinds of things sometimes I can't, like, that's the fourth wall you need to break, which is like, I obviously curry this too, or I would not be on TV talking about how I chase down thing for the show. And like, I'm on Hulu.

I'm a Hulu. Like, yeah, we get it. We clock it. But you don't have to be mess. about it. You can acknowledge your past while not being like this version of this person that I dislike or like, oh, I had to be stuck somewhere with Sheena. Why is Sheena at a birthday party? It's like because she was fucking invited. She didn't invite herself and just pop up. And that's the kind of stupidity that I don't like on reality television. Yeah. Don't play in my face and act like we're not seeing a whole situation. How dare she show up to a place? How dare she show up on this show? Because you don't cast yourself on a show. You don't put yourself into those situations. So to sit here and act like we're all dumb and just be like Sheena's inserting herself. You use. You don't cast yourself. You don't. You don't put yourself. You don't put yourself. You don't put yourself. So to sit here. So to sit here. So to sit here. So to sit here. So to sit here You brought her up. Yeah. Like, y'all are talking about her.

And then if you respond, then all of a sudden, it's like, oh, my God. Of course, Sheena's making it all about herself. Sheena's self-centered. No, Sheena is fucking replying. She is replying. And that shit irks my nerves because it's just like, I'm sorry, I really will like end my feelings about this.

Obviously. Like, I was going to watch the show anyway. But it's just like, you don't have to sneak this, like sneak this, sneak this. Or what? Like, you're just hitting people over the head with it. Obviously, you said I know it makes good reality. television. So the name drop I'm going to do is Sheena Shea and put it in here because I know somebody's going to say, oh, look, they're beefing again. You know Sheena's going to respond because

you brought her up. Like, if you're going to play the game, play the game out loud. I'm curious if that scene was filmed in real time or if it was a pickup. Because if that was filmed in real time when Unwell-Con, whatever was happening, that was like first or second week of October. I was just with Jesse a couple weeks before that for the page 6, virtual reality awards where her and I were both awarded with something. And we spent the entire night catching up and talking and like, we were friends. I had just come off book tour where I was there with like her mom and sisters in the salon and just apologizing for the Marciano of it all.

The amount of voice notes, literally, but like the amount of voice notes I have from this girl, like I have probably 20, 30 minutes of voice notes from Jesse. just apologizing about dragging me in for the Marciano of it all saying, I'm so glad that a greasy man didn't get between us and our friendship and this and that. Yeah, she called him a greasy man. I have that in a text. Oh, my God.

But like, we were in a good place. It got weird for a minute because of Marciano. And then we were good. And so for you to then just go and like try to like buddy up to Stasi because you've worshipped her since season. when you were like in fucking high school and you're like, oh, I have tea. It's about Sheena. I'm like, that's just

so thirsty and so gross. And like now I saw someone sent me this morning. Marciano just tattooed her like Jay, like a Jay Z style Jay on his wrist with the heart. Yeah. And to me it's upside down. That's why I'm removing this one because it's

facing me and I think his was, I'm like, shouldn't it be? I don't say also. I don't think she was expecting that to come like to be something that might have been brought up in the like despite how? No, no, not to No, I'm talking about like that little cut. I don't think that like if you look at Stasi's face and the way her

eyebrows go like when you're brought up like it was like it was brought back to you. Like obviously I guess they were going to do it anyway because that's part of Christina Kelly's beef with the whole like I don't want to hang out with Shina. Like it's. But also Christina Kelly and I had a really good moment in Mexico

which I'm, I mean if it wasn't aired we definitely filmed a scene where she came over and was like I'm just here like to support Katie like I'm sorry for anything in the past and like her and I were friends ever since that moment I invited her to the after party in Mexico for my wedding but she chose to obviously stay with Katie but like her and I were good granted we haven't talked much in the last like year or two but I've always been like fine with her so sorry I had a reality TV fact pop in to be like oh well technically on that evening it probably went left because Katie was

been upset with you that evening. So that probably played into the like anything after that was like. So we're just going to like. Yeah. We keep it 100. But look, I will say, congrats to Stasi for getting this show, you know, greenlit and filmed. I know that that is not something easy. I know selling a show takes a lot of hard work and persistence.

And I did enjoy the first episode. I thought it was well done with the way it was shot. like it looked aesthetically pleasing. I like the little like thing, pop-ups and stuff. It's cute. So like... I mean, look, the TikTok discourse of like how, like, everything that's going down makes me want to watch it.

And like, honestly, here's the thing. I really wanted to support it because I know Taylor Strecker. And so like I actually, I can give me that. That girl. I know. And nobody likes her. And that's what's even crazier because I was like, damn, like she's not coming. Like, I knew her from before she was whoever she is now.

And so I was like, damn, like, I guess she's not coming across well. I don't know. That girl. Well, I think it's a lot of people like are stuck on that fact where it's like, oh, I have opportunity to be on Netflix. My child's going to be born, but it's Netflix. And I think where you kind of like, huh? No.

Oh, the podcast. The podcast was going to be aired like through like Netflix and all that fun stuff. I don't know. It's interesting. I will give it that. It is very interesting. Interesting enough for me to sit and watch it. Also, like, again, the Katie Confessionals are worth it.

Literally, she looks so good. That little cut she has right now is so flipping cute. Like, I just, listen. Did you see the photo she posted today? She has never looked better. The bangs with the short hair, so good. So that's the only reason I watched past episode one. I watched episode one because I knew I was brought up in it.

Then I heard I was brought up again later. So I was like, I think I'm on episode four or five maybe. I'm kind of fast forwarding through it. Yeah. Just to, you know, see the scenes that mention me. Yeah, obviously. You're kidding. It is worth, I have like a Katie Maloney eyebrow moment.

Ever since that reunion where she walked out and she had got that long hair and, like, the, listen. The eyebrows. Yeah. So, you know, congrats to Stasi for getting the show picked up. How do we feel about Bo in the season? Do we feel bad for him? You haven't watched it. I haven't watched it.

But, I mean, based on what I hear, here's the thing. I don't know. He knows who she is. So why would I feel bad for him? He knew exactly who she was married. But he also was with a non-reality TV filming Stasi for the last six years. And he wants to go back to work. Which is longer than they were together while she was filming.

Okay. Maybe not a reality TV Stasi, but she was still a podcast, Stasi. She was still a traveling live tour Stossi. Well, they had that paywall podcast. It was like a parenting podcast. And he was like one of the main people that was good, the bad and the baby. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Never listened. No. Listen, one thing, I told you, I love my deep cuts. I was interesting on this show to me. I will say I miss my friendship with Bo. Like him and I were football buddies. We would text every Sunday and talk about, like I became, I don't want to say a Rams fan because that is just like blasphemy.

But I became someone who enjoyed their wins because it like gave me something to talk to Bo about when it came to football. And like vice versa. with the Chargers. And even when the Rams were playing the Super Bowl at SoFi, however many years ago, that was, I don't know, probably like six years. I don't even know. Whenever that Super Bowl was and like Dr. Dre and Snoop and all of them performed.

And the Bengals were in it. Yeah. Okay. Didn't remember that. I just remembered it was the Rams. Bo and I were looking at getting tickets because we're like, he's like, I might be able to get one. I was like, I might be able to get one.

I'm like, when was it? 22? Okay. I was like, did I have a baby? Did I know? I don't know. But we were talking about, like, should we just, like, go to the Super Bowl? And I'm like, I do miss him.

And I feel for him going through this because there are similarities with my marriage with Brock. And watching the show, I mean, I am nothing like Stossie. I think we all know that. But it did just remind me to, you know, have the physical touch aspect and to have just that quality time and whatnot. because I can get caught up with work sometimes, but I mean, I'm not berating my husband. You know, he is an incredible help to me. And if he wasn't home as much as he was, I wouldn't be able to do as much as I do. Or I wouldn't.

My kid would be with a nanny or, you know, I mean, my mom, but now she's in school. And I love that Brock is around as much as he is. So I mean, I haven't watched the whole season, but I just want to give a shout out to Bo because it's not easy to be a stay-at-home parent, let alone a stay-at-home dad. I think that does something to your ego. And two kids is no joke. I got one, and she's an angel.

And it's hard on days when I'm solo parenting. So shout out to him. That was a good acknowledgement that they did, like, especially from an entertainment perspective of what that looks like in our families, where it's like, I just got off the road for four weekends. My husband's having to pick up the slack of that and kind of like try to make sure, like,

oh, I can bring the kids here to meet up with you. And like with Brock, like Brock, you guys, summer will get her a little suitcase and hit the road too. But it's like trying to have like a hands on life

be a hands on present parent and give your child a great thing while also like doing a job that allows you to have the flexibility to like be there for those moments that you'd need to or to be a room mom or to show up or to like teach your kid to eat broccoli. You can drop me a hint. Those like it's a good look at that kind of like.

Yeah. that battle of like trying to balance the thing and also like having your kids and trying to like figure out how to be a parent when you like like get overwhelmed. Yeah. One thing I'll say though that I didn't like was him saying that like his passion was like casting, directing and whatnot. He just like really wanted to go back to that and that wasn't good enough for her. It was like you need to dream bigger, be better. And he's like, oh, what, just do like social media ads. And she's like, well, I've gained you all of these. followers and like I've given you this platform so like do something with it. What if he doesn't want to? Yeah. He just wants to go sit on a fucking casting couch. Like what is wrong with that? There's nothing wrong with that. If that's where his passion is. So I do hope for him he can either

one day get back to that or find love in social media ads, you know? It's like Jared on Rory on Real House Rise of Rhode Island. Like Ashley's always like you have the opportunity to do all these brand deals. And Jared's like, but I just want to sell Audrey and coffee and Audrey. Because it gives me meaning and passion. It's like I feel something when I do it. Whereas like I don't like, sorry, like holding up a product and doing all of this doesn't make me feel anything. No, that was upsetting to me. Because if Brock told me his passion was like working in the minds or like doing something that was, you know, just really hard work every day. It's like, okay, well, let's find a balance to where you can do that on these days. We figure out drop off,

whatnot, you know, the kids are getting older. Like, Hartford's in school. Messer just started in school, I know. So it's like, why can't he take those hours to do something he enjoys doing? Yeah. I don't know. Also, one thing I wanted to note, which I just found extremely interesting and hypocritical, what did Stossie label me when Vanderpumperl started?

Homeworking War. Yeah. What is Jesse, by definition? Her best friend. Her little friend. Just saying. Not calling her a whore. I'm just saying she cheated on her first husband with her last husband.

And then cheated on her last husband with Marciano. That is the definition of a homewrecker. And I just find it very interesting that this is who Stossie is platforming on her show, allowing to talk shit about me. Just saying. We got to. She just had to address the homewrecking whore of it all. She just said,

feelings and I'm going to say them. Yeah. Well, also, I'm listening to my EP the other day. Summer wanted to listen to the lesson song that she did. And then Misunderstood came on. You know the first line is Miss Homewrecker. And she goes, Mommy, is this song called Miss Homewrecker? I never thought I would hear my five-year-old daughter say the word homewrecker.

And I go, no, honey, this one's called Misunderstood. She goes, oh, because the first lines is Miss Homewrecker. And that's just what reminded me of that because I was like, and here she is befriending the woman who just cheated on her husband. Anyway, I kind of already said it, but just to reiterate, my flowers of the week go to none other than Miss Brittany Cartwright for just her bravery, her everything, talking about this publicly.

It's never easy doing what we do. and, you know, sit down and have to relive all of this. And just to put it out there, I know that she's helping people, and I'm very proud of her. Jack's Hole, again, Jack's Taylor. It's just too easy. And Lori, you suck. Thank you, ladies, for being here.

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