Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - Book Tour Diaries

Episode Date: August 2, 2025

This week, Scheana is podcasting from various stops on her NYT BEST-SELLING BOOK TOUR! She is joined by her sister Cortney and friend Krystina Arielle, as they unpack life on the road for the... second leg of tour, which saw Scheana in five different cities over five nights. They detail things going wrong on tour, from Chris Martin greeting the Boston crowd of a Coldplay concert with “Hello Canada” (though thankfully overshadowed by the now infamous Astronomer CEO affair) to Scheana arriving to her Salt Lake City venue to find out there are no books! Elsewhere, Scheana learns that MY GOOD SIDE is a NYT Bestseller and details the unconventional celebration that followed. Plus, Scheana shares her thoughts on this season of “The Valley” and where she stands with the cast. Who did she recently make up with? Tune in to find out! Follow us: @scheana @scheananigans Co-Hosts: @krystinaarielle @cortney.erin Come see Scheana on tour & buy MY GOOD SIDE! More details available at www.mygoodsidebook.comEpisode Sponsors:Go to cokeurl.com/simplyPOP to find out where you can try Simply Pop!Learn more and join using my link. The first 1000 get a $100 credit toward their membership. Visit www.functionhealth.com/GOODASGOLD or use gift code GOODASGOLD100 at sign-up to own your health.Produced by Dear MediaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The following podcast is a Dear Media production. From Vanderpump rules to motherhood and everywhere in between. Warm up the kettle, it's time to spill some tea. Let's get into some shenanigans with Sheena Shay Hello everyone, we are doing shenanigans from the road. This is the second leg of tour for me. And I just found out that I'm a New York Times bestseller. Hey. Woohoo. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:00:58 So exciting. My friend Christina Ariella is here with me in Atlanta. Yes, we are. I am from Columbus, Georgia and Sheena said come to Georgia and I got to be in my hometown when one of my best friends found out that she is a New York Times bestseller Yes! while getting ready to go out for a stage show
Starting point is 00:01:17 and present to a crowd of people that got to see her as she is. And I am so proud of her and looking her in her eyes right now and hoping that she truly hears that she deserves this moment and I'm so proud to be in it with her. Thank you. So, so exciting. It's like, obviously you write a book,
Starting point is 00:01:34 you want it to be a best seller, but I did not for one second expect it because I just feel like, and this is something I talk about in the book, but I feel like, and I talked about it on stage the other night too, I just feel like, and this is something I talk about in the book, but I feel like, and I talked about it on stage the other night too, I forget what city, because I'm like, where am I, what time zone is it?
Starting point is 00:01:53 But I feel like my confidence has just been beaten down so much from reality TV that I'm like, okay, I'm gonna do a live show, are people gonna buy tickets? Okay, I'm gonna write a live show. Are people gonna buy tickets? Okay, I'm gonna write a book. Will people actually buy it? It's like having this experience the last few weeks with the book and the excerpts
Starting point is 00:02:14 and the magazine covers and everything. But I know there's definitely negative comments out there. There always are. But staying out of the comment section and just going on tour, meeting people who actually want to be here to support me has been so amazing. Like I haven't felt this much love since like BravoCon a couple years ago. I absolutely felt the love.
Starting point is 00:02:41 I cannot wait to go back. But this is so different because this isn't me representing a show. I'm on book tour for writing a book about myself that people actually wanted to read. And I understand that people are very easily to dismiss Sheena's experiences, even if she tells them as they are but tonight to be in that moment with her and to have so many people come up to me
Starting point is 00:03:13 and say being in this environment with Sheena and seeing her in this setting and this understanding that I have of Sheena I don't get to see the unserious Sheena. The Sheena that's silly. The Sheena that is honest and goofy and open and just herself. And the one that lays herself bare that's not too self-serious, that's the Sheena I love and that's the Sheena I fell in love with. Like she has a great heart and so to be in a room full of people that come up to you after that say, I got to see her. I got to see her in a way that I've watched this woman for multiple seasons of television for the last almost 12 years of my life and I've
Starting point is 00:03:56 got to look at her tonight and just see her as she is without the edit, without anything. And so many people left in a way feeling seen and heard and hearing you in a way that they never have. And listen, we don't have a script tonight. We don't have a plan. But I'm gonna give Sheena her flowers tonight because. And so did your husband. That was so sweet. Literally sent flowers for both of us to the hotel.
Starting point is 00:04:27 The absolute sweetest. And like, Sheena is not gonna like ring her bell in the way that I am, but. No, but we can make it about me tonight. Can we make it about you? Can we make it about a New York Times bestselling author who is sitting here right now with me? And I wish you could see the joy on her face times best-selling author who is sitting here right now with me and
Starting point is 00:04:47 I wish you could see the joy on her face and Know how important that is that she? Whatever your feelings set those aside and know that this person made a dream come true for themselves. Yeah Watching someone have their dream come true and be realized and able to be in that moment, that I don't think between me, Mark, Courtney, like any of us, there was a dry eye. And we're in my state, we're in Georgia. And I got to be here and I'm here because Sheena knows,
Starting point is 00:05:22 I don't get home very often, I don't book stuff home very often. That I want to see my sister, I want to see my best friend. And because of her, I got to see that. And because of that, we all got to celebrate her tonight and be involved in a moment that is going to be monumental for the rest of her life. We get to watch Raw Joy as she found out for the first time.
Starting point is 00:05:42 She's a New York Times bestselling author. So crazy. And you guys will say that she's making it about her, but in this moment, I am going to make it about her because I know what she put into this and I know what is in her. And if you've ever seen anything that I've done, most of you haven't. My job is to give people their flowers while they can smell them. My husband sent her literal flowers to smell and I'm gonna give Sheena her flowers right now. I love you. Sheena is a person that I count on, that I call on
Starting point is 00:06:12 and I want you to know that I'm so proud of you in this moment. And to get to share this with you in the state that means much to me, like with your sister, your mom, like just all these people who mean so much to us. Like you deserve this. I know, we gotta hang out with our sisters
Starting point is 00:06:27 in Georgia tonight. Oh my gosh, we got to, it was so great. So fun. Can we talk about where we went? Oh my gosh. Okay. So we are staying at Hotel Clermont. Did I say that correctly?
Starting point is 00:06:42 You did. Okay. Tell the listeners about this hotel. Gather round shenanigans listeners as I weave ye a tale. Sheena Shay sends me a message and she goes, oh, Christina, we're gonna stay at this hotel called Hotel Claremont. And I was like, in Georgia?
Starting point is 00:07:02 Like in Atlanta? On Hotel Claremont? And she's like, yeah, it's like this rustic hotel. It's like 100 years old. Here's this like old- Cute little boutique hotel. And it is, it is beautiful. It is, my best friend who was with us tonight,
Starting point is 00:07:14 Jana, she was with us and she goes to Savannah College of Art and Design for like interior design. This is one of the buildings they studied of like beautiful designs because a lot of the buildings in Georgia, like in Columbus and Atlanta are made from repurposed old mills. So that's why you have like the beautiful like brick fronts while you have all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:07:36 And so the building that we're in is called Hotel Claremont. And she tells me this and so in the basement of Hotel Claremont there is what's called the Claremont Lounge and since I was in my early 20s it has been a legend and a thing of lore and we got to go there tonight there are no cameras there are no anything it is just a beautiful adult entertainment club and it did like in a way that like it's a gentleman's club. We went and there were. But a dive bar. It is the dive bar.
Starting point is 00:08:10 And it is in the basement of the hotel. So it is it's nothing tawdry. It is quite literally just a dive bar in the basement of a hotel where you don't have control of the touch tunes machine. And I don't know if you've ever been to a dive bar that's important. That security guard was like, do not walk here.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Do not touch that. We're like, he's really good at his job. Also, you know who else was great tonight? Our girl Callie. Oh my gosh. She was so beautiful. She was so nice. And she just was just, I'm from the South.
Starting point is 00:08:42 I expect like the warmth and the kindness of it. And they all came up and thanked us after. Yeah, it just was such a great random night. It's such a, I know people like to go on ghost tours and things like that. But you need to go to the Hotel Claremont in Atlanta, go downstairs to the Claremont Lounge. It is a storied establishment since like 1964. It is just absolutely unique in the experience and I don't think you can
Starting point is 00:09:12 tell anybody about this experience. And they have a cute rooftop too. We went up there and did a little TikTok and then I felt like people were staring and I was like okay we cannot shoot this one more time. Well you know how they have like in like the Roosevelt, like they have those like the like MGM letters, like the build, which the first thing I think about is like, what is it? It was great when it all began, a Rocky Horror Picture Show.
Starting point is 00:09:37 So like the first thing I think about when I think about that is like the RKO music tower and Rocky Horror Picture Show. That's what it looks like on the top of this roof because it's just like Claremont. Loki reminded me of Hotel Cecil, the thing on the top, you know? Yes.
Starting point is 00:09:51 I was like, wait, but like also it kind of reminds me of the Fontenoy where I used to live, where it had the neon letters on top and it was like old Hollywood and it looked haunted. But this is old, Georgia. Do you think this hotel, which is literally 101 years old this year, what is the likelihood that you think this hotel is haunted?
Starting point is 00:10:10 Yeah. It's so beautiful and unique and greatly designed. But I also think about it in the sense of like, this is an old mill. Like there's a old hotel, it's a Marriott hotel, and it's a grist mill. Like there's like, what was it one? I'm at Swift. They used to make jeans out of old recycled Coca-Cola bottles. I don't know if you remember this.
Starting point is 00:10:33 No. It's they used to, it was a Swift textile mill, and they would collect old plastic bottles and recyclables and turn them into jeans in old mills like this. But this mill, they've turned into a beautiful boutique hotel where we have. Yeah. Hang it out. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:52 So going back to the lounge, we walk in to this lounge and there are three girls who we recognize from the show tonight. the three girls who we recognize from the show tonight. And she literally had my book on the bar. I was like, Sheena, you're a New York Times bestselling author. Where do you wanna go? And I'm like, the strip club. We're going to the Claremont, baby.
Starting point is 00:11:19 The lounge. But so funny, I was not on my bingo card to walk into there and to have someone have my book on the bar and she goes, I was literally just reading it at this club. And we did tonight, the segment that I did with Sheena at her live show was Sipper Spill and we went over just audience asked questions
Starting point is 00:11:41 and this girl was in the front and she kept raising her hand for the audience questions. Yeah. And so we ended up kneeling down and getting to hear her question. She just felt... Kelsey. Kelsey. Oh she was so sweet and she just had the greatest time and she was another one of those that just felt she got to see you in a different light and just to see yourself. So please make sure that you are going out and getting your tickets to the Sheena Shea Book Tour for her New York Times best selling award winning book. My good side.
Starting point is 00:12:10 We only have three shows left. Three shows left. How is it, this has already gone by so quick. Like this leg, it was five cities, five nights, and now I go home tomorrow, I get to see my baby girl, I miss her so much. And then we've got Cincinnati, Nashville, and Philly left.
Starting point is 00:12:34 And we're still trying to figure out St. Louis and DC, because change of plans. We'll get to that later in the show. But still figuring out like, are we able to add Canada? Do we do a live show in LA like I? Don't know I think my biggest question for you is Given everything that you've taken in today I don't think you literally found out that you were on the New York Times Bestsellers list Kind of before you were getting ready to go on stage
Starting point is 00:13:02 And I don't know that you truly had a minute to process what that means for you and the work that you put in and just whatever hesitations you may have had in yourself, what of that was the swage tonight do you feel? Like, what are you feeling after such a monumental day? Very proud of myself for not giving up because I say this in my opening monologue at my shows, there was a time where I wanted to give up on this book,
Starting point is 00:13:32 like the process of it, the betrayal I went through, it was just like, I didn't even, at one point, I was like, I don't even care that there's a book deal, like how do I get out of this? Like, I don't think I can go on. Like, I'm not a quitter. It takes a lot for me to walk away from a job, like never, that's never something I've done.
Starting point is 00:13:55 But I had literal panic attacks writing this. And then I was just like, no, like, this is such a good story. Like, we're gonna tell it, the book is gonna come out, and I just hope that people understand me a little better after reading it, and I just hope that people are able to relate to stories I tell in it, and understand why I put them in the book,
Starting point is 00:14:22 instead of just questioning why I put it in the book instead of just questioning why I put it in the book and going on a podcast and talking about it. I think the important thing in that is this is your story. This is your story as you've laid it out. Everybody is different. Everybody's experiences are different. The way that we process things are different.
Starting point is 00:14:41 And you processed in a way that allowed you and your family to continue in the way that you all needed it to. And I think that that gets lost in the moment is that this is what's most important for your family, for your child, for you moving forward. If this were gone tomorrow, your family is still there tomorrow. So what do you do to make sure that that is the most important thing in your ecosystem? Because it is your ecosystem. And I think that gets lost in the translation of it,
Starting point is 00:15:10 that it's not just saying things to be saying it or to be salacious. You don't go to somebody and say, I'm going to write a book. I'm going to write a book. You're going to give me a book deal. I'm going to go out on the road and do this thing. That's not something you volunteer for. That's not something you can just walk up and be like, I had an idea and do this thing. That's not something you volunteer for. That's not something you can just walk up and be like, I had an idea to do this thing. That's not how life works. That's not how the world works. So for you to go and to be vulnerable and to lay yourself bare in
Starting point is 00:15:35 this way, knowing what criticism could be there, knowing what it is, there is a courage in that that a lot of people do not possess, nor do they know what goes into that and the heart that goes into that. And so to be in a position where there's two shows left, and those are two shows where there are people... Three? Three shows? Cincinnati, Nashville, Philly, for sure. And those people are going to see you. I'm down to do more, but we gotta figure it out, scheduling. My two of my best friends that came tonight
Starting point is 00:16:07 saw versions of you that resonated in them. And different ones too. And just like in your birth story, in your postpartum journey, in your OCD journey, these are things that are genuinely helping people see themselves, feel heard, and either get help or know that they're not alone. And as much as anybody can say anything, that is a courage because there is so much shame, there's so much stigma, and for you to put
Starting point is 00:16:38 yourself out into a world that you already know for the last 11 to 12 years has nitpicked every single thing you've done and you've continued to lay yourself bare and put yourself out there. And sing good as gold at wildly inappropriate times. Exactly. That is a level of courage. Yeah, I'm 40, yeah, I'm a mom, I'll still be on a bar.
Starting point is 00:16:56 F-O-R-T-Y, I love you. Oh my gosh, wait, we have to talk about this. So you guys, Christina wrote me a song and she wrapped it for me. And I'm like, I have to record this. It's so good. Like it could be the new Apple's anthem. It is.
Starting point is 00:17:16 And it's all about the fact that people like, I love to see in the comments that people are like, Sheena, you're like 40. That's great. Cool, you know what, I'm 39. You know what happens? Your back hurts. You know what happens? Your kids are driving you crazy
Starting point is 00:17:34 and you have to do all these things, but you know what you're gonna do? You're gonna keep going, and that's what we're doing. Because regardless, we're still cute, we're still living our best lives, but we're also really great parents. And we love our children and our lives and we're doing the best we can.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Just like everybody out there right now is doing the very best they can just to survive. And the grace that we put out is the grace that we give. So I just hope that we all get it. And I love how well our kids get along. It's so cute, cause she's right in between their ages. And I love it. And my daughter calls you, Ms. Cheena.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Ms. Cheena. Every time you're FaceTiming me, I know. I'm like, this isn't for me. This is for Summer and Zoe. It's not. And just put the unicorn face on. Yeah. Just put the unicorn face on and back up.
Starting point is 00:18:22 Literally. Always. All right, well, it is so late right now. I don't even know what time it is. We're on Eastern time. I think it's 1 a.m., 2 a.m. So we're gonna take a break, but then after the break, we're gonna go back to Pittsburgh last night. We're gonna go back in time together
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Starting point is 00:22:03 Hello, hello everyone and welcome to Shenanigans. Here with my sister in Pittsburgh. How you doing? Hi guys. We are at the Oaklander Hotel in Pittsburgh. It was like maybe 15 minutes from the venue that I was at tonight for my live show. And compared to some of the other rooms
Starting point is 00:22:23 I have been staying in, it is so nice to have space. It's so cute. Everything about this little spot is so cute. Yeah. The place the last night was just like a little closet. And the view. It's so nice. What is that memorial right there? We are by University of Pittsburgh, and everything is just old and gorgeous. Yeah, it's so pretty. They don't make it like this anymore.
Starting point is 00:22:46 No, it's like, you can tell that you're not in LA. The grass is green. Yeah, no, it's crazy. When we were Ubering from the airport over here, mom was like, is there like wildlife over there? And the Uber driver was like, what? We were like, is there wildlife over there? And he's like, oh yeah, a lot.
Starting point is 00:23:02 It's been so fun. So this was night four out of five for this leg of tour. Started in New York, then went to New Jersey, Chicago, came back to LA, Salt Lake City, Austin, Boston. Now we're in Pittsburgh. Tomorrow we go to Atlanta. And this is the first time ever in my life I've just done like a tour,
Starting point is 00:23:27 but a different city every night. Well, back to back shows are not, I feel like this normal. Like I've toured a couple of times and I feel like at the most you have three nights back to back but then you normally have a few days off. But this has been so much fun. Every live show that I've done has been so entertaining. Like the crowd just loving getting involved,
Starting point is 00:23:50 coming up on stage, singing Good as Gold. We're giving away the boo-boos and vinyls and books. And how was your first show? Cause you just joined us on the tour tonight. Tonight was so fun. I actually think you've gotten funnier. So thank you. You're welcome. Wow. Tonight was so fun. I actually think you've gotten funnier. So thank you. You're welcome.
Starting point is 00:24:06 Wow. I loved your jokes. I was like, wait, this feels like a standup show. Like the opening monologue. That's what it felt like. Yeah. I was like, wait, like, where is this gonna go from here? Like, it was just so funny and the games were so fun.
Starting point is 00:24:19 I feel like some people like loved getting into involve their friends that didn't get to make it. Like there's truly something for everyone and all the husbands and boyfriends were such good sports. I know. No, it was so fun. I'm glad you guys were at this show. And just to come to the city where our grandma was born, I've never been here before. So it's cool to see that, too. Yeah, no, that was really fun.
Starting point is 00:24:43 And I also learned a Pittsburgh term from what was her name? Jess, I met this girl named Jess tonight. I met a Jess tonight. I wonder if it was the same Jess. I know there was a couple Ericas, there was a couple Wills, Gens. We were like, should we make the two Gens
Starting point is 00:24:59 with two Ns go up on stage and like fight? Or the two Kellys the other night, there was Kelly spelled K-E-L-L-Y and the other Kelly K-E-L-L-E-I-G-H. I feel like there's a game there. Maybe there's something you could do on stage. Who has the same name. Let's do that.
Starting point is 00:25:16 That sounds fun. Okay, same name game. Okay, but Jess told me tonight, have you ever heard of the word nebby? Nebby? Nebby? Nebby. N-E-B-B-Y. No.
Starting point is 00:25:29 So I pulled it up on Urban Dictionary just so I can accurately give the right description. So nebby, used mainly in the Pittsburgh area, and it means to be nosy, snoopy, inquisitive, and annoying. And I asked her, I was like- Did she call me that? I don't know what the context was, so I was like, wait, so you're saying Sheena's nebby?
Starting point is 00:25:51 And then I was like, wait, is this a noun? Is this a verb? Is this an adjective? It's an adjective. So it's a descriptive term. Yeah, so- Of someone annoying. Urban dictionary says,
Starting point is 00:26:01 Bobby Joe quit being so nebby and get me a pop. So I was like, wait, so I think it's like in a silly way, though, like someone who's nosy, like someone who like wants the tea. Yeah. So Nebby, we're going to have to add that into our vocabulary. But it's so funny that it's specific to this area. It's not like, oh, it's a northeastern term. Are we in the northeast? Are we in the Midwest? I don't know. I'm not good with geography because it's like we're so close to Ohio.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Right. So that's like the Midwest. I honestly don't know where I am. I was on stage in Boston last night and was talking about like Lake Michigan or something, because I was just in Chicago and we're looking out at the water and we're like, that's so crazy that that's not the ocean. Yeah. But then I said that in Boston and my tour guide was there.
Starting point is 00:26:43 He's like, She know, we literally looked at the Atlantic Ocean together. I go, wait, no, sorry. Okay, now I'm here, but I was there. I'm like, where am I? What time zone is it? It makes sense on why so many artists that are on these giant world tours
Starting point is 00:26:55 often will say the wrong thing. Like it makes sense now. I actually remember it was a One Direction show once and Zayn yelled, Connecticut, this is my town. And like, no one told him Connecticut wasn't a town. And like, honestly valid. Like, he's not from this country. How many cities do you think he could name in Connecticut?
Starting point is 00:27:17 Right? You know? Hartford, New Haven. Well, that's you being from here, but him. He just thought like, oh, we're in Connecticut. That must be like, we're in LA. Oh, that's so funny. Yeah, I him. He just thought like, oh, we're in Connecticut. That must be like, we're in LA. Oh, that's so funny. I always think about that.
Starting point is 00:27:27 Connecticut, my town. I heard that at that infamous Coldplay concert, that night for the first time ever, Chris Martin said the wrong city. He said Canada when he was in Boston, and he was so like low-key happy that something overshadowed it, because he's never in his career done that. I mean, there's a first for everything.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Yeah. My makeup artist in Boston was at that show. She saw it live. She goes, everyone was like, what is going on? I saw on Pop Crave today that allegedly the CEO is now suing Coldplay. What? But also I guarantee like walking into that venue, I'm sure there's some signs anywhere that's like you
Starting point is 00:28:13 are consenting to be on camera or to be filmed. Like so many of those shows they're there to capture. It probably says it in the fine print and the tickets. Yeah, so I'm like, I mean, wouldn't a lawyer know that? I know that there's no like legitimacy to this lawsuit. So I guess we'll see where that goes. But I guarantee it's just to like throw a fit and it's going to get dropped. Yeah. Like, I don't think we can blame Coldplay.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Like, no, don't bring your side chick out in public. Right. Don't have a side chick. How about that? But if you do keep it behind closed doors. I did see a couple of people saying, though, like, we can support, like, at least if he's going to, you know, be with a co-worker. It was age appropriate. You know, they seemed like they were the similar age, you know. It's not like he's dating his 20 year old colleague.
Starting point is 00:28:59 Does that make it better or worse for the wife? I don't know. I don't know. But I don't think it's Coldplay's fault. It could have happened to anyone. It's not Coldplay's fault. This could have happened at the heiress tour. This could have happened at your tour. Like this could have happened anywhere. It could happen anywhere.
Starting point is 00:29:14 Yeah. And Coldplay puts on a good fucking show. That's one of the coolest concerts I've ever been to. It was so dope. We just saw them in Vegas a couple months ago. Yeah, no, wait, at the Sphere? No, I wish it was at the Sphere. I'm going to go see Backstreet Boys at the Sphere though.
Starting point is 00:29:31 That's awesome. Very excited for that. But yeah, no, not Cold Place fault. No, definitely not Cold Place fault. That literally could have happened anywhere. Mm-hmm. Hmm. Anyway, tomorrow we're going to Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:29:46 I've never been to Atlanta. I was just going to ask you that. I've never been to Pittsburgh either. I literally had to look up the routing of the couple tours I've been on before. Because you know, when you're on tour, and I'm sure you're experiencing this now too, you typically drive or fly in somewhere and then you get to the venue and you spend your entire time at that venue. And then you move on to the next place that like I've only ever like I only think about places like St. Louis and
Starting point is 00:30:09 Kansas City because of the venue I was at. Like I know nothing more about the city than like that one venue being like, oh, they had really good catering and like the green room was really big. Like that's all I know of some of these cities. So I had to look it up and I was like, nope, never made it to Pittsburgh, never made it to Atlanta. But I know it's hot, right I was like, nope, never made it to Pittsburgh, never made it to Atlanta, but I know it's hot, right? It's hotlanta, right?
Starting point is 00:30:29 They call it that. So I didn't know what to pack. I was like, I don't know what to do with like potentially rain and 90 degrees. Like, what do you guys wear? What, if you live in Atlanta or in the South, like literally what do you wear? Yeah, for that weather.
Starting point is 00:30:44 No. It's like you want to be covered, but you don't want to you wear? Yeah, for that weather. No. It's like you wanna be covered, but you don't wanna be hot. Yeah, no, I don't know how they do it. I don't know how anyone lives outside of Southern California. You guys are so brave. Yeah, because Southern California is fucking expensive. But the weather, it makes sense.
Starting point is 00:31:02 I mean, that's why I'm still there. Yeah. I don't know that'll be there forever. Will you, that's why I'm still there. Yeah. I don't know that'll be there forever. Will you be there forever? Yeah, Orange County. Would you ever move to Australia? No, I've never been. I can't say I'm gonna move somewhere.
Starting point is 00:31:13 I've never been, so I mean. I could see you loving Bondi Beach. I probably would, but I mean, dream is to have a home in Orange County in that perfect weather, and then me and Justice, my boyfriend, really would love a ranch in Las Vegas. You're speaking Brock's language. That's like his dream.
Starting point is 00:31:33 So have like maybe like an acre in Vegas and then whatever we have in Orange County can be smaller. Like we just need a big enough yard for the dog, you know? But I would love, like we wanna have horses one day. And honestly, I'm like, I know Brock wants horses. And I'm like, I think we'll get horses before you and Brock do. No, it's like a race.
Starting point is 00:31:52 I mean, yeah, he really wants one. He did give up on the chickens though, I heard, right? He did, thank God. That's one of the things where I am thankful, A, that he doesn't listen to this podcast. B, I pick my battles. I let him think what he wants sometimes instead of being like, no, we're not doing that.
Starting point is 00:32:13 I'm not gonna shut him down like mom shuts dad down. And his brain, his like ADHD brain like moves on too. So like, I feel like he'll change his own mind. The thing with the chickens though is obviously you have two cats, Penny and Salem, and you guys travel a lot. And I feel like he'll change his own mind. The thing with the chickens though, is obviously you have two cats, Penny and Salem, and you guys travel a lot. And I feel like sometimes it's even a struggle to make sure like the cats are covered.
Starting point is 00:32:32 If you're gonna be gone for a while, like who's splitting the time? Who's going over? Who's staying with them? And then you want them to take care of chickens on top of that. And that's what I'm saying. I'm like, you need to find a separate chicken babysitter because I'm not the chicken babysitter.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Exactly. I don't think cousin Jasmine's the chicken babysitter. Like you have cat babysitters and now you have to find a whole new role of a chicken babysitter in the Valley. Like where are you going to find that? No, I'm so thankful that he finally, him and Summer planted a bunch of vegetables and stuff like the snap peas are already growing.
Starting point is 00:33:05 They did the whole vegetable garden on the side and now he's into that. So he's like, well, what if we just like made more of a garden area and did some more plants? I was like, that's a great idea. So I'm like, you know, I let him for a year think he was getting chickens instead of shutting it down and fighting about it.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Just pick my battles and now I win. It's like he likes the idea of chickens. I don't think he really wants chickens. I think he likes the idea of chickens. But I think he does actually want them because he grew up on a dairy farm. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've heard hens only lay eggs for a couple years.
Starting point is 00:33:41 They're only fertile with eggs for a few years. And then you have a few year old chicken that's gonna live for a couple years, you know, they're only fertile with like eggs for a few years. And then you have like a few year old chicken that's going to live for 10 more years that doesn't produce eggs anymore. So then that's just a pet, you know, asking me to correct you if you're wrong. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure hands only lay legs for a few years. And then there's years. I mean, think about of like an animal being fertile and you know, like reproducing for only a certain section of its life. And then after that, it's just a pet.
Starting point is 00:34:11 And I just feel like now what is, you're not gonna kill the chicken. You're not gonna, you know what I mean? So now it's just like, kind of, you're signing up to have a pet eventually. You get eggs for a couple of years and now you have another pet. Like, do you want more pets? No, I never wanted a chicken.
Starting point is 00:34:27 I just, and it's so funny that as I said, he doesn't listen to this podcast. There was a clip that I posted from the podcast, I think talking about the chickens and he overheard it when I was playing it back and he got so annoyed because the way I said it, I was like, do this before and then like, then you can get your fucking chicken.
Starting point is 00:34:43 However I said it, he like looked at me and I was like, I was just being funny. Yeah, no. Yeah, of course honey, we're getting chickens. Don't give him a goal because then he will achieve that. Maybe actually this is leverage and you could use it. When you want him to do something, being like, do this, this, this, this and that,
Starting point is 00:34:57 and you'll get your chickens. Or just the next thing that he wants, you know? Okay, our mom is sitting next to us and Google this for us. No, hens don't lay eggs for a couple of years. While their peak egg laying period is typically within the first two years, they can continue laying eggs for several more years, though at a reduced rate.
Starting point is 00:35:15 Most laying hens will be productive for about three to five years, with some continuing to lay sporadically even longer. Still, you're talking three to five, and then they still live longer than that, you know? Did you know that a butterfly only lives like two weeks? Wait, really? They only live that long? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Wait, that's so sad. I know. But it almost makes it more special for like how often we see them. I have seen so many this year. Are there just more butterflies this year, or am I just noticing them more? I see them at my daughter's school,
Starting point is 00:35:42 or at summer school all the time. Yeah. Like there's always this butterfly, it's named Allie. I'm sure it's the same one. Yeah, it's the same. For all school year. Same one, but there is like a cocoon in the area by one of her classes.
Starting point is 00:35:58 Yeah, I'm sure it's the same one though. Yeah, same butterfly. For sure. For sure. According to summer, for sure. You guys all sent in a bunch of questions and as my sis moderated the Q&A Sipper Spill Game tonight in my live show, we're gonna do that on the podcast.
Starting point is 00:36:15 Okay, let's just dive right in. Kiki Ra7 asked, have you met Kristin's new baby? I have not. She sent me a photo, but I have not met her yet. I also want to make sure I'm completely like tour germ free before I would even let myself. Yeah, so. I feel like what age do you normally let people
Starting point is 00:36:36 meet newborns anyways? It depends on, I don't know. Yeah. Okay, so I know you've talked about this a little bit, but would you consider playing a bigger part on the Valley season three? Tee under store Katola asked you that. TBD.
Starting point is 00:36:56 That's it? That's all you're giving them? Yeah, I mean, if it makes sense, then, you know, yeah. But I know people keep asking you that. Giving the demand is there. Yeah, but then all of know, yeah, but, um. I know people keep asking you that. I see. Giving the demand is there. Yeah, but then all of the comments say, we don't want her. Yeah, pick one.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Get her off our screen. I'm like, I'm not going anywhere. Pick one, you know? Well, just speaking of the Valley, what do you think of the fans and viewers perception of Janet? I think that people need to remember that there's so much more to the story.
Starting point is 00:37:24 It's literally the reason why I wrote a book is to add more context. And when you have more context and you see other sides of people, you don't feel the same way. And I know that personally, I'll use Michelle for an example. We have a mutual friend. She's my friend, but she's also one of Michelle's best friends. Friends, so mutual. And when we were talking about the Valley, her opinion of her was what most viewers think. And I go, well, let me introduce you to her because I guarantee you'll see another side.
Starting point is 00:37:59 And now they go to Nobu Malibu without me. But I love it because we do our girls' dinners every month. And now they go to Nobu Malibu without me. But I love it because we do our girls dinners every month and now Michelle's part of the clique. Like we've not let anyone else in it. It's me, Ashley, Christy and Katina. We've done this since Boulevard opened once a month girls dinner and Michelle's the first one to join the group.
Starting point is 00:38:21 But they're just like, oh my God, you were so right. So it's like, people need to remember that Dave and Buster's Janet is the only Janet I know. So the version you're seeing on the show is not the fun loving Janet I've been friends with for eight years or however long, I'm sure I'll get corrected if I'm wrong. I mean, at this point, would you just advise anyone
Starting point is 00:38:41 who maybe is being perceived a certain way on TV or on social media to like write a book about their good, you know, all of their sides? Like you only see one side of me. That's the thing. It's like, that's what I love about having this podcast, but there's just something different about obviously when it's on the show, it is the biggest reach.
Starting point is 00:38:59 But when you write a book, I think that that just has a different reach too than just an episode of a podcast. And so it's like, unless you've been, you know, listening to shenanigans for years, you don't know the side of me that I talk about all of the time. So I put it in a book.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Yeah. Well, I know you FaceTimed Zach tonight of the show. What is your current relationship with Zach? We are good. We went to lunch recently, talked out some little things that we needed to talk out and knew York, he came to 92Y to the first event that we did around the book.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Jasmine came, I had all my New York friends and I loved that the stars aligned, that they were able to be there the first night. It's not like anyone's going to fly out for that. You know, I had the Grove book signing. Yeah. But it was so cool that they were both there. And then day of, I get asked if I'm done with my signing early enough,
Starting point is 00:39:58 if I could just appear on Watch What Happens Live as a surprise doorbell guest and bring Andy a book. And I was like, I mean, I'm already gonna have my hair and makeup done, like me as well, that'd be so fun. So then I surprised Brittany and Zach at watch what happens live in the green room, they didn't know I was coming. And we just had so much fun.
Starting point is 00:40:14 So it's, you know, he's gonna be at my show in Cincinnati and we have different friends. So it's what makes it hard for Brittany and I in friendships when it's like, okay, but we're good again, but I don't like the way you treat my friend. But then it's just. Well, that's always tough with like friendships in general
Starting point is 00:40:37 where it's like, well, that person didn't do anything to me, but you did something to my friend. And it's like such a tough path to navigate. And I feel like that's always me. And I try to be better about that. So I'm like, look, I'm gonna say this for all of my friends. If you have an issue with someone I'm friends with, just don't talk about them to me.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Because I don't wanna hear it. Because when you have an issue with someone, do you expect all of your friends to have an issue with that person as well? No. Yeah. No. Yeah. No. Yeah. So.
Starting point is 00:41:05 Yeah. So yeah, Zach will be in Cincinnati. So yeah. So yeah. So yeah. Back in. We're tired. I don't know if you guys can tell.
Starting point is 00:41:15 This reminds me of the old days that, especially Janet, but we would like wherever hotel we would be, Australia, like her and I used to tour the literal world together, but we would just sit in the hotel room and we would do like drinking and podcasting or would be on my couch and Marina. Or I think of like the Hollywood apartment with like the leaf wall.
Starting point is 00:41:38 Yes, totally. But I have not podcasted from a hotel bed in so long. It's so giggly squad of us, I feel like, when they're on the road. I know, they lose the video, they don't get to see us. Yeah, oh, I know, that was the thing too. People were complaining about there being no video last week, but I'm like, I have very small windows
Starting point is 00:41:59 that I can record in. I was with Brock, we got it done. And this one also, sorry, no video because we're sitting in a hotel room at almost midnight. What time is it? Yeah, it's 11 54 PM. My sister took a red eye here. I forget what time zone I'm in, but. Yeah, we had to learn what our mom learned
Starting point is 00:42:23 what GMT was today. Why doesn't it just say Eastern? I don't know. I still can't explain it to be on. But yeah, we had to learn what our mom learned. What GMT was today. She said, why doesn't it just say Eastern? I don't know. I still can't explain it to be honest, but it means Greenwich. Uh-huh. Mountain time. Is that it?
Starting point is 00:42:35 Greenwich something. I do know there's mountain time, but I thought Utah was on mountain time. Is there a different mountain time? Yeah. I. It's like I've been in every time zone this week. It's like they wake up, new time zones just dropped. I need to learn what they all are to be honest.
Starting point is 00:42:51 That's funny. But yeah, so Zach will be in Cincinnati. And so will Allie. Yes. That one's gonna be really fun. I have FOMO for that one. You can come. I'll be in Spain.
Starting point is 00:43:03 Oh yeah, that's right. That one's gonna be so, so fun. Yeah. But I know we've got some questions about St. Louis and DC. Yes, so due to some scheduling and venues, we had to cancel the two live shows, but I'm still trying to make a bookstore signing happen.
Starting point is 00:43:27 So I don't know if that's going to happen yet. I wish it was just up to me because I would literally come to every state in the United States if I could on book tour. But we'll be posting more about that this week. I'm sure by the time this podcast is out, we'll have that sorted as well because I already booked flights and stuff. So I'm like, can we still make something happen? I'm trying my best, but just keep an eye on my Instagram for updates because I will post as soon as I find out. Okay. So I see a lot of questions about the book and I feel like one general one
Starting point is 00:44:04 that I've kind of gathered from a few of questions about the book and I feel like one general one that I've kind of gathered from a few different questions was how does it work talking about different celebrities in the book? Like they're wondering how you get their consent to talk about them or kind of how that works. So I found this out because my book had to go through a full legal review and if someone is a public figure, then you can freely talk about them because they're a public figure, then you can freely talk about them
Starting point is 00:44:25 because they're a public figure. If it's someone who has passed away, I also learned you can't defame the dead. So. Also, how do they decide who's a public figure? Like that seems like such a gray area. Like how many followers do you have to have to be a public figure?
Starting point is 00:44:42 You know what I mean? Maybe if like your name has been in the news or something, I'm not sure how they determine that. But- Is it like determined by a judge? Like would a judge make the call? Well, I mean, everyone I talked about in the book was famous enough that- For sure. I'm just like, okay, someone on this season of Love Island,
Starting point is 00:44:57 are they famous enough? I think that would be way questionable. Yeah. No, I don't think so. I feel like it's different because these are like actual like A, B and any D list actors. Yeah, no, totally. But I was like, oh, I wouldn't have known that. I feel like there's a lot of things like that, that people don't know. You know, like I saw another question too, and I know you talk about it in your book, like people want to know more about like, what it's like when you got
Starting point is 00:45:22 demoted. And like, I doubt you'd want to say exact numbers, but one person asked how much less do you get paid when you're demoted and what's that versus like a friend of do friend of get paid like they don't see it because they just see characters they see you guys as characters on their tv like you know I feel like sometimes people forget that you're it's even a job you know at the end of the day. Oh, this is a good question. Do you feel like you are finally getting support from fans with your book launch versus some of your other eras?
Starting point is 00:45:52 I do actually, and especially being on tour, meeting so many people, the meet and greets have been sold out for every show. That has been so amazing because I'm like, oh wow, these people paid extra and genuinely wanna be here to see me. And oh my gosh, I have to bring this up because what happened in Salt Lake,
Starting point is 00:46:15 something with the venue, I don't know if they ordered the books too late, but the books for the book tour show did not arrive. So I walk into the meet and greet room and it's like a quiet room. I literally started playing music on my phone, like a psycho, because I'm like, we need like some sound in here.
Starting point is 00:46:32 And Mark and I are looking around and he's like, there's just something odd. And we're like, what is missing? And we're like, oh my God, no one has books. So he's like, let me go get the books. So that's the point, like picture, sign the book. And he went out and they said, oh, they didn't come in in time. So I'm like, let me go get the books. So that's the point. Like picture, sign the book. And he went out and they said, oh, they didn't come in in time.
Starting point is 00:46:48 So I'm like, okay, well now we have all these people that need to go leave their address to get a book sent to them. And I'm like, they have to get a book. They- I'm like, okay, this is probably not an option, but like my brain goes, I'm like, can we just go to Barnes and Noble
Starting point is 00:47:04 and like go pick up like a hundred something books? Like I my brain goes, I'm like, can't we just go to Barnes and Noble and go pick up 100 something books? I think about that when I'm at a coffee shop and the coffee shop is in the same center as a grocery store. And they're like, sorry, we're out of oat milk. And I'm like, then go get some, queen. Like, it's right there. So I heard that Barnes and Noble for certain types of books
Starting point is 00:47:22 only buys so many. Got it. But I know that the Calabasas one, Courtney Berman went the other day and she was like, oh, you're sold out. I got the last one. And I go, was it the last one on the shelf? Or like, did you ask?
Starting point is 00:47:35 And she goes, no, they said it was literally the last one. Oh, that's cool. But I'm like, did they buy five? Did they buy a hundred? Like, I don't know. Yeah. But yeah. No, that sucks that no one was checking in Salt Lake
Starting point is 00:47:44 like at least the day before. Cause like worst case we could have Amazoned, you know? 100%. I would have just paid for them. So I'm like, if people don't get their books, I said this tonight, I'm just gonna Amazon them. Like I'll pay for them and figure it out later because they want people to get their books
Starting point is 00:47:59 like this week too, you know? Or if I'm able to do an audible code for everyone, like I will make sure that we figure this out. And we just heard it's on Spotify. A few people tonight said they listened on Spotify. That was cool. A new stuff. I know, I was like, ooh, go stream my good side.
Starting point is 00:48:15 Yeah. Do you have any plans or even thinking possibly about writing another book yet, or is that so far into the future? I don't think it's so far into the future. It's just what would it be about? I don't wanna necessarily be like an Andy Anderson how-to girl.
Starting point is 00:48:36 And I feel like Stassi's kind of in that lane. It's obviously not gonna be another memoir biography of any sort because I put it all in this book. So I'm like, I do have a couple ideas, but that needs to be like way fleshed out. And I think I'm just gonna enjoy this one for now. I think would be cool. Also looking at some of these questions that came in,
Starting point is 00:48:57 like obviously you're not a doctor or a psychiatrist, but like how much this has touched like the OCD community, like doing a book like about your OCD and just like really like detailed on that, maybe partnering with some sort of doctor or psychiatrist or something. I think that would be really, really cool. It's niche too. Like niching down.
Starting point is 00:49:19 Yeah, that's one of the things that I have an idea about around also like maternal mental health, just like in general, because of what I went through in my labor that you never saw on the show. You got a bit of it at the reunion. And I obviously talk about that experience in the book, but just going into more like, okay, there's postpartum OCD, but then I learned at the conference, there are so many different types that I had never experienced. And then it's like women who get preeclampsia,
Starting point is 00:49:53 help syndrome, but then women who get postpartum anxiety and don't know like exactly what it is. So again, we'd need to be flushed out. We're just talking about this live, but I've definitely thought about doing something around OCD. No, I think that would be cool. I also think it's hard because I see a lot of people online talk about how they only want to consume positive birth stories or positive pregnancy stories.
Starting point is 00:50:15 Not everyone wants to fear monger, but I think talking about all the things that you just referenced, it's almost just preparing people to know what things to look out for. And it's not necessarily fear mongering or talking about the worst case scenario, but it's like just being aware of symptoms, like the same way that people are aware of like diabetes when you're pregnant. What do they call that? Gestational diabetes. There's so many things that are normalized, like look out for certain signs for.
Starting point is 00:50:38 So it's like talking about all of this, I feel like it's not to scare people. Like I would obviously never- No, it's to be proactive. It's being proactive and it's just like, you know, getting ahead of things. Yeah, like I genuinely remember my What To Expect app. It would send emails, I think every day, if not every week. And one time I got one that was like, signs for preeclampsia and help syndrome. And I'm like, why is help spelled with two L's? I'm like, I don't have that. and I just like deleted it. I didn't even open it to read it.
Starting point is 00:51:07 And maybe had I read it when I found out there was protein in my urine and they asked like what I had for breakfast, I might've been like, or do you think it could be this, not just the protein smoothie and the Greek yogurt or whatever. But that's what sucks too that you have to be your own advocate. Like that shouldn't be a thing anyways.
Starting point is 00:51:25 You know also another thing that just sucks about insurance and medical stuff in America, if I do a surrogate, it's not like I can put her on my insurance. My insurance will not cover anything with a surrogate. Like you can't just like add her to the family plan. No. It like has to be her insurance
Starting point is 00:51:49 or it has to just be all out of pocket. I guess maybe if it's like protecting each party somehow that maybe makes sense. I just feel like there should be insurance for infertility, for IVF, for all of these things. It should be offered. And instead I feel like it's just being stripped away. But I mean, the more that people are doing IVF, IUI,
Starting point is 00:52:12 all these different fertility things, it's just normalizing it. And it doesn't make it so taboo, you know? This person asked, what's been the biggest surprise about touring? This person said they loved the Boston show. Yay, thank you. That was so fun last night.
Starting point is 00:52:27 I think the biggest surprise has been that I'm still able to have energy every day after a little bit of sleep, getting up early, going to the airport, doing another glam session straight from the airport. But wait, is it not the Celsius and the espresso martinis and the coffees and the- I didn't have Celsius today.
Starting point is 00:52:47 But you did have a couple espresso martinis. I guess, okay. Well, regardless it's working and the fact that I've been able to have high energy four nights in a row, I don't know. And I'm not comparing myself, don't come for me, to Lady Gaga or Taylor Swift. But like, I'm talking for 90 minutes.
Starting point is 00:53:06 They're touring the world full, like hours and hours long of choreography. I'm like, how do they do it? Have you seen, I've seen videos of singers training by running on their treadmill while singing and that's how they get like their endurance and also their like breath work or whatever, like up to like standards. Yeah, I just, so impressive. Yeah. Okay, let's see if there's one good last question. To wrap it up and then because we've been doing this
Starting point is 00:53:39 at my live shows, we'll also name a Jack's Hole on the podcast. Okay. Oh, people wanna know if you're gonna do my Good Side merch. Have you considered that? So I didn't even think about that, especially for tour. Like we could have done that.
Starting point is 00:53:55 I mean, it would have been more stuff to bring in set up. But like now that I'm thinking about it, we absolutely could have had something. The sweatshirt I wore at the Austin show the other night, this girl who I met in, I believe Chicago, I think it was my first night, but her name was Lindsay. Lindsay Bell, shout out to you. And that amazing sweatshirt.
Starting point is 00:54:17 She's like, I know you like things oversized. It was the perfect size. It was so cute. I immediately knew that that was something I was going to wear for one of my nights and with the boys and my new docs that I got, it was perfect. But I had so many people that night say,
Starting point is 00:54:33 where are you selling those? Yeah. Did she just make one? I think she just made one for me. Yeah, I've gotten some really sweet, unique gifts on tour that are like so personal. This little girl in Austin gave me a picture that she drew for summer with a rainbow. It was so sweet.
Starting point is 00:54:51 It's so sweet. Arabella. Cute. I know. Well, I guess if there's a demand. Yeah, I love it. If there's a demand. I wish we had it for the tour, but some people didn't even get books on the tour.
Starting point is 00:55:05 I cannot get over that. It will be fixed. I will not allow it. I also feel like some people have so many books now. Some people are like, well, I pre-ordered one, but then I went to a signing and then I went to a show and it's just like books for everyone. All of the preschool moms are like,
Starting point is 00:55:19 Sheena, we've bought like three of your books now. They're so sweet and so supportive to come. But yeah, we're gonna give them out for Christmas presents. I know, I got my first copy at the Grove signing. Yeah, love it. Well, thank you guys so much for listening. I apologize that you're not able to be watching, but it's just too much to set up.
Starting point is 00:55:40 So we will be back to video podcasts after tour. And in the meantime, stay good as gold. Thanks for listening to Shenanigans with Sheena Shay. Tune in next time for juicy updates from the world of reality TV, pop culture, and more. Download new episodes every week on Apple podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you like to listen. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest
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