Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - BRAVOCON DEBRIEF: Squashed Beef & Spilled Tea

Episode Date: November 21, 2025

This week, Scheana and Kiki Monique return from BravoCon with the ultimate recap. Scheana breaks down which beefs were squashed, which ones were addressed, and why Tamra Judge’s perplexing ...behavior has her concerned. From hallway trauma-dumps to surviving the weekend on IV drips and nap strategy, the two spill all the behind-the-scenes chaos.They also get into LVP’s comments about Scheana’s book, the DeuxMoi blind item linking her to a brawl with a Southern Charm star, a confrontation in the glam room, Adriana’s onstage meltdown during the RHOM panel that Kiki moderated, and Kathy Hilton being unintentionally iconic. Plus, why was Shep yelling in the hotel bar, what was going on between Lindsay Hubbard and Tom Sandoval and his girlfriend Victoria, unexpected new friendships, and Kiki’s appeal for Mary Cosby to unblock her…but why did she get blocked in the first place? Tune in to find out! Follow us: @scheana @scheananigans Co-Host: @thetalkofshame Purchase your very own copy of the NYT Best-selling book MY GOOD SIDE at www.mygoodsidebook.com!Episode Sponsors:Get $25 off your first purchase when you go to TheRealReal.com/goodasgold.Head to Fabletics.com/GOODASGOLD and sign up as a VIP to get eighty percent off everything.Get 61% off your first Coffee+ Starter Kit, a free A2 Probiotic Creamer, with over $100 in free gifts by going to everydaydose.com/SCHEANA or entering SCHEANA at checkout.Don’t miss out on early Black Friday deals. Head to Wayfair.com now to shop Wayfair’s Black Friday deals for up to 70% off.Produced by Dear MediaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The following podcast is a Dear Media production. From Vanderpump rules to motherhood and everywhere in between. Warm up the kettle, it's time to spill some tea. Let's get into some shenanigans with Sheena Shea. All right, we're good as gone. Because we're good as gone. Because we're good as God. Because we're good as good.
Starting point is 00:00:41 All right. We are back for another week of shenanigans. Kiki and I are here in the studio. We survived BravoCon barely, if my voice is any indication. I had a great time. I had a good as gold time. loved meeting all of the fans, catching up with my Bravo fam. We have so much to get into.
Starting point is 00:01:06 I've been trying to rest my voice as much as possible. Yeah. But I know you can hear it. So I posted for questions. We got a lot of questions. Where do we even start? Well, I, of course, need to know. Did you squash any beef this weekend?
Starting point is 00:01:22 Because you had a lot of beef you could have squashed. True. So squashed some beef addressed. other beef. We'll get into all of that. But I wasn't called up for a segment of squash the beef. Okay. But I did squash some backstage. And then I probably started some new beef on stage. Oh, I've heard a lot about what was apparently allegedly happening backstage. I mean, so, so many things. Yeah. But I mean, oh my God, how are you? And how are you functioning right now? You're booked and busy this weekend. You had, what, six panels you moderated? Six panels, three days, which I mean, I'm glad.
Starting point is 00:01:58 they threw me in the deep end. I got to experience every stage. But, oh, my God. Like, it took a full two days to recover. But I'm so glad that I upped my Pilates. Because I told my instructor, I was like, I need two private sessions a week. I'm so glad I did that. Because the endurance and the core strength and the walking strength you need to get through
Starting point is 00:02:17 is wild. I know. And I'm in heels the whole time. Oh, my God. I had IVs come every morning. The first night I stayed. It was technically four nights. Like, we had day zero.
Starting point is 00:02:27 and then day one, two, and three. Yeah. So day zero, that first night at the bar at the four seasons, everyone was down there. So we're mixing and mingling for a few hours. I was supposed to go see Maddie Reese's DJ set, and I was like, you know what? I can't do that tonight. Like, I already felt like I was losing my voice. I was just getting over being sick.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Post made it some NyQuil. Ordered a $35 chicken noodle soup to the room. Brock went out. I just went to bed. Yeah. I felt so good the next day. My sleep score was 93. I was like, who would have thought I'd get the best sleep of my life at BravoCon?
Starting point is 00:03:06 I know. It was short-lived. Okay. So as I'm getting through day one, I was like, I have to book an IV for tomorrow morning. And then I felt so much better after that. I booked one again for the next morning. So, yeah, but I got through it. And I don't know if people understand.
Starting point is 00:03:26 And if you haven't been to BravoCon, but it's like, when we're working BravoCon, how much it actually takes. And for you, I mean, how much time and work goes into prepping everything. You know, like, are you doing all of the questions yourself? Is Bravo giving you certain questions? No, Bravo is, you know, the producers, I will say, oh, my God, so many props to them. Those producers are amazing and they put together everything they organize. But the day I landed, I'm rehearsing. And so it's go, go, go.
Starting point is 00:03:58 But, you know, I mean, it was so much fun, though, at the same time. Even as busy as you are, it's so much fun. I mean, yeah, because you're essentially doing six different live shows with all different material for each one. And dealing with a lot of different personalities, I will say. Yeah. Different pressures. Yeah. I mean, and a lot of these people, I mean, I haven't met a lot of them.
Starting point is 00:04:19 And so it's like, and, you know, my first panel of the day had Tamara, which I think had, you know. Oh my God. That was your first one. That was my first panel. So I was like, you know, there was a little bit of anxiety because we hadn't seen each other since I think New York. Watch what happens live. And a lot has gone down since then. Right.
Starting point is 00:04:33 So, yeah. And so that was on your panel where she said she loved me or she was excited to see me. Obviously sarcasm. Well, I don't know. But I'm only reading transcripts. So I didn't get a media to a panel. Teddy came out first, hugged. Teddy looked great.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Tamara then came out. I can't remember if we hugged or just leaned in and sort of cheeked kiss. And then she actually helped me out because I was using a new lipstick. I hadn't worn before, and I was very worried about it. And I guess it was getting on my teeth, which I hate, you know. I hate that. And so at one point, Tamara did look over and she was like, did the thing, you know? And I was like, oh, my God, thank you.
Starting point is 00:05:05 So she was helpful. And then I can't remember exactly what was said when your name came up. And then she was just like something, Sheena. And then, you know, the audience. I thought it was like, oh, who are you most excited to see? And she was like, oh, well, sheena, of course. Or something like that. Something like that.
Starting point is 00:05:19 But I didn't see any clips. I mean, I wanted to go to panels, but they kept us on such a tight schedule. I didn't have time to do anything else. But I read like a transcript somewhere and I'm like. And she said she loved you. And so I was like, okay, are we going to squash the beef? She was like, I love Sheena. So I was kind of like, okay, I feel like we're headed towards a squash the beef situation,
Starting point is 00:05:38 whether it's on stage or not between the two of you. Very interesting that one. I do have more thoughts on that, but I know there are questions about it. So I'll save that. How was this experience different from your last BravoCon? Well, the last ProvoCon, I never left the red carpet or the blue carpet room, whatever they call it. I pretty much was just interviewing the entire time. So I never got to.
Starting point is 00:06:00 And this one, I am backstage. I'm hanging. First of all, best people watching ever. Oh, yeah. Back there watching. And then finally getting to meet people. And then obviously, I never moderated. So being on stage and getting to moderate and engage with the fans, which again, like, I didn't expect people to, like, have be fans of me.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Yeah. And that was like really, really nice because people were really saying some, I was like crying. People were saying like, you know, I would have four stage cancer and your content, helped me get through treatment. One woman was like, you inspired me to get on Zepbound because you were so honest about it. And now it's changed my life. And so hearing those stories and like, I was like, I went to my room and cried. Yeah, that happened to me last BravoCon. So this year, I had Xanax on me just in case.
Starting point is 00:06:47 But it didn't actually happen this year. but I got trauma dumped on back to back to back at my booth at the last one. And I love hearing what an impact I've had on people when they do say those things to you, you know. But it was like four devastating stories back to back. And, you know, just like Kristen Doty, I am an impact. And I was feeling it. It was like, can you do a video for my friend's mom? She only has a week left to live.
Starting point is 00:07:16 And I was like, oh, my God. And then it was like, he did a cameo for my parents. best friend and she passed away and it was just like so many of them and I was like trying to keep it together and right after we did that like meet and greet it was at my booth I bolt through the crowd I'd go into just the first corner and I was like and I was like oh my god and then this bravo con I saw Maddie Reese and she clearly looked like upset and overwhelmed and so she was walking out I went up to Joe and I was like oh my god is she okay and he's like it's just it's a lot you know people are coming up and it was the same thing I was like oh my god that's
Starting point is 00:07:54 exactly what happened to me two years ago people just saying you know how inspiring she is and her sobriety and this and that but as someone who is sober and has anxiety you know she can only take a beta blocker yeah and so I went up to her I gave her a big hug and she was just like thank you so much I was like girl I get it like it's a lot in the best way in the best way yeah no I mean it's like I'm still on a high and it's like yeah yeah yeah same okay let's get into some questions because we've got a lot. How did you guys survive BravoCon? Personally, I had morning IVs.
Starting point is 00:08:28 I took a nap every day, which I was very proud of, except for the last day I just powered through and had Celsius. Yeah. But I didn't drink either until day four. Okay. I had a mimosa and an espresso martini. And that was the first espresso martini I've had since August 18th. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Yes, I remember the day. It's my friend Daniel's birthday. I was with Zach and Benji, and I can't even count how many espresso martinis we had. One of the worst hangovers of my life. I was like, I'm never going to be able to drink these again. And then I saw Heather Debrough walk in with one, day four, which, well, I guess day three, but like my day four. And I was like, you know what? That looks good.
Starting point is 00:09:11 And I'm not going to have time for a nap today. And so I had one. And just that one drink, because I hadn't drank in, I don't know, a week. or more. I got a little buzz and Mark was like, did you just smoke some weed? He's like, you look so zen and you're just, I was like, I guess that martini just hit. And it was like right before I had all my photos in the photo studio, they're playing Dancing Queen. I was like, how did you know this is my favorite song? Yeah. And day four, I was like, you know what? Let's, let's do a full send. I did a minor send. Yeah. But I love it. Yeah. No, I think because I was
Starting point is 00:09:45 moderating. It kept my drinking down because I was like, I'm on the job. So I'm like, it's like, I can't drink during the day. So like I really didn't drink much at night. And then yeah, I went hard kind of the last. I went hard Friday night because I didn't have the Miami panel until 5 p.m. Saturday. And then I went hard like Sunday night. But yeah, I wanted to do IVs, but I felt like I never had time. I was like when I get back, I probably need to do one. But I think it was just like the fact that I didn't drink much. Yeah. Yeah. Same. And I just did my IVs when I was in glam. Yeah. So I had them come hook me up and just, I'd have to say. sit there and get hydrated, but I've never done an IV for like a recovery thing. I always just
Starting point is 00:10:21 power through. And it was good? It was amazing. I did a mega Myers drip. Okay. So it was like B12, magnesium, zinc, something with a TH that I can't pronounce that they do at the very end because it's like really cold when it goes in. Yeah, that definitely saved me. My voice. I had the lingering cough still from being sick a week before. And every housewife who walked in the glam room, they were like, oh, it was so smart. I'm like, I know. I know.
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Starting point is 00:14:32 and said she doesn't like someone telling lies to sell books. Well, I can't say I'm surprised at those comments, but like I've said this before, the book was not Elisa Vanderpump, tell all. You know, she is a part of my story of my almost 40 years of life, but not all of it, you know, and I put everything in there. I put the good, I put the bad. I feel like my relationship with Lisa is complicated, and my book details those experiences with her. I talk about some good times. I talk about the bad times. We had a lot of fun. We shed some tears. You know, I mean, I think I put a bit of all of it in there. And I don't even
Starting point is 00:15:21 have ill will towards her. You know, I'm not trying to take her down. I was just trying to tell my truth. But she knows. I did not make up anything. I was not telling lies in the book. She wants to spin it however she wants to spin it and say well as a producer it's my job to give a heads up on what's happening throughout the day good impression thank you yeah if you guys haven't already you can um listen to this version of me on my audio book my good side it was a new york times bestseller but her attempt to discredit my truth is an effort to conceal hers and that's all I want to say because, as I said in the book, it was a very polished producer and a very reliable source who confirmed she knew from day one.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Wow. I guess we're not squashing that beef today. Don't think so. I am curious if Brittany's comments the day before she ran into Lisa, had Lisa heard them yet or not? Because there was a photo I saw of Brittany and her, like, on the red carpet. And Brittany was like, hey. Oh, oh, God.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Yeah. But she had just said, like, that she hasn't heard from Lisa in, what, four years. Oh, really? Wow. She sent us each a baby gift when the babies were born, four and a half years ago. Yeah. And Brittany's never heard from her again. Not, like, checking in.
Starting point is 00:16:47 And that's, and then I saw comments and people are like, well, she was your boss. She's not your friend. I'm like, no, she prided herself on being a mom to us as being a friend to us. She was more than just a boss. So, yes, I do think she. should have checked in with Brittany after the divorce, you know, it's like Lisa was a huge part of their wedding and their life. And so to not check in, and especially after Cruz got diagnosed with autism, like, you can't pick up a phone and call, send a text. Yeah. It just, but it doesn't
Starting point is 00:17:21 surprise me. So, okay, next question. Who did you fight with from Southern Charm? What did you think when you heard that. Oh my God. I mean, this was the funniest thing ever because I wake up to a post that says that Sheena got into an altercation backstage. I'm thinking if that happened, I feel like you or Mark would have texted me. I feel like I would have heard this, but I'm also like, Mark didn't know. No, but I was also like, okay, and I'm like, what is going on? Like, yeah, I was just like, what, tell me what really happened. No, it was so odd. There is literally a zero truth to any of that. Then I started to get in my head. I was having fun with it on Saturday. I played jokes on people. I had one of the Bravo executives just like go. He really believed it.
Starting point is 00:18:06 So then I got another exec on it with me. I was like, let's play a joke on Dave. Okay. And he was just like, why can't you tell me? And I was like, well, you know what? Now it's a legal matter. And he was like, wait, what? He's like, Sheena, who? And I was like, I don't know their names. I was like some blonde. I was like, Molly, Sally. And he was like, wait, was long hair short. And I was like, and then I'm like laughing the whole time as I'm playing the joke and he's like, are you fucking with me? And I'm like, yes. And he goes, no, you're not. And he goes, who was it? And I'm like, it's a legal matter. I can't say anything. So, like, I was having fun with it. But then the next day, I wake up with like the Sunday scleries. And I'm
Starting point is 00:18:43 like, oh my God, we're applying to private schools right now. What if the schools see and they think that I'm like this got arrested. I was like, oh my God. But we don't have our interview for a couple of months. I think it'll be okay. It was not true at all, completely made up. I got so many calls. I had my phone on do not disturb or sleep mode as I always do when I go to bed. And when I turned it on, well, actually I woke up that morning to Mark calling me because I slept through my alarm. And he was like, just so you know when you check your phone, you're going to have messages from your mom and probably a lot of other people. But like, it's okay. Like you didn't do anything wrong. And I'm like, wait, what? And then I look at my phone and
Starting point is 00:19:22 I just see everyone. Literally, like everyone and their mom was hitting me up about this. How do you think this rumor got started, though? Like, what? I have my theories. Okay. I think whoever it was is someone, I don't want to say necessarily close to me, but like someone I know who was trying to take me down in a sort of way. But it completely backfired because then I was just the most talked about person on day two of BravoCon.
Starting point is 00:19:52 Everyone wanted to know who did Sheena fight. Yeah. I had housewives coming up to me. Golnessa came up to me. Who's asked do I have to kick? You tell me, I got your back. Like, Shannon Badoor. I mean, so many women were so supportive
Starting point is 00:20:06 because they were just like, who's fucking with my Sheena? I ran into Shannon and Sophie in the lobby bar. And they were just like, wait, what's going on with Sheena? And I'm like, what do you mean? I'm like, I don't know. Yeah. No, it was so funny. So I'm like, whoever started that rumor, it just made me the most talked about person.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Everyone's getting asked on the red carpet in their panels. Who did Sheena? That is so funny. Yeah. Interesting. Mm-hmm. All right. Next question, Kiki.
Starting point is 00:20:34 What were you thinking during the Real Housewives of Miami panel when things with Audriana went off the rails? Wait, what happened? Audriana had, she wanted to do a little stunt because obviously the whole thing she went viral for saying, you know, that Julia slept with a Haitian mortician and she had to give him a coffee maker. Yes. So, like, during the panel, she gets up and she's like, I have a gift for Julia. and she walks around to the back of the couch.
Starting point is 00:20:58 She pulls out this coffee maker that I'm pretty sure was the coffee maker in our rooms at the more season. And she holds it up and, you know, she kind of brings it out and like, here's a coffee maker. And so everyone gives a little chuckle. So I'm thinking, okay, this is kind of the end of the stunt. Great. She'll sit down.
Starting point is 00:21:11 We'll move on. Oh, no. She's like, and does everybody want to know the identity of the Haitian mortician? So now I'm like, okay, I don't know if this is part of the stunt still. So I'm like kind of waiting for producers saying. They're not saying. So I'm like, okay, we're going to go with it. And she's like, does everyone want to see?
Starting point is 00:21:26 And she's like, everybody see Haitian mortition. She's like, I think she's yelling for someone named Megan or Melissa. She's like, Melissa, I mean, Melissa. Now I'm like, who's Melissa? And like, what are we doing now? But there's no Melissa showing up. So now she's not getting what she needs. Now she's walking backstage.
Starting point is 00:21:41 She just leaves stage. Now I'm like, what's going on? So now the producers are like, okay, we've got to move on. So I'm trying to move on to like the next set. I'm like, Gertie. So then she comes back out. She's still yelling Haitian mortician. And then she's like, I have a picture.
Starting point is 00:21:52 Do you want to see the picture? And I go, I don't think I want to see the picture. Because if there's really a picture, I don't want to be deposed. I don't, this. Right. But then she pulls the picture out, and it's a picture of Fadra. And now I'm like, girl, go sit down. Please go sit down.
Starting point is 00:22:05 And then she won't sit down. It was just like, it derailed. It fell flat with the audience. It was so awkward. I want to like just move on, die. Yeah, Thedra's not Haitian. I know. The whole thing is so awkward.
Starting point is 00:22:18 The whole thing was the night before at the talent party, Julie had told me, she's like, she got it wrong anyways. It wasn't a Haitian mortician. It was a Haitian mortician beautician, which I thought was hilarious. Oh, my God. And I said, okay, let's talk about that. If you want to talk about, you, that didn't, I think Julia kind of got that out. But at that point, you couldn't even hear her say that.
Starting point is 00:22:39 So the whole thing just, oh, my gosh. Well, I don't know if there was a question about her, but her and I squashed the beef right before we walked out on stage together. Okay. I had the penguin. She's like, why do you have the penguin? And I was like, oh, it's a long story. but like da-da-da-da-da. And so then we're standing backstage for like 10 minutes just waiting to go out.
Starting point is 00:23:01 And it's, I don't know her. Yeah. I don't watch her show. I have nothing to talk about with her. So I'm like, I feel kind of awkward. Yeah. And she was like, this is an odd pairing. And I'm like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:13 I was like, well, at least our dresses look really good together. You know, we both got the green memo. And then she goes, okay, can we just like say that I have no issue with you, you know, like Captain Jason. I are fine, blah, blah, blah, blah. So, like, are we good? And I was like, yeah, and I never said anything. I go literally, all I said to him that night was you were a hot topic tonight. And I said that you were talked about by Ashley Darby and Adriana. Like, that was it. And she was like, it's okay, it's okay. She's like, I don't want to do it. And I go, okay, cool. So we're squashing
Starting point is 00:23:43 it right now, but we're about to walk out on stage. So what if we get called up? And she's like, we just, we go with it. And I was like, okay. So then right when they pull the lever and I was like, wait, shit, are we going to do it? And then I'm like, I don't. say we just squashed it backstage like we put it on a show like what and so i was so glad that they didn't call us up for that yeah and then um yeah i'm sitting in between her and kathy hilton i'm i don't know what to say to the i feel just awkward with audriana because of that yeah but then kathie is she's so fucking funny hilarious she can't hear anything and so she keeps looking to me and she goes what did they say and then i'm explaining and she goes were they
Starting point is 00:24:22 And I'm like, okay, that one's on Summer House, that Southern Jump. She was, I don't know anyone. I don't watch anything. And she's like, who's honky-dory? Oh, my gosh. She's amazing. No, I love Adriana, so I'm glad you squash the beef. She's lovely.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Kathy was hilarious. Like, I did the Kathy and Kyle panel. Nikki Hilton came out, which was amazing. At the end, they wanted to take fans with pictures with all the fans. And Kathy lays down on the stage because she wants to get close to the fan and take picture. Then she can't get up. So, now Kyle is like, it's the most hilarious thing. Like, she's hilarious.
Starting point is 00:24:50 No, I had so much fun with them. Yeah. I saw someone posted and they were like, did anyone else notice that Sheena was just sitting on that stage? Like, why am I here? And she looked like sad and awkward and da-da-da. I'm like, I was literally like making jokes with Kathy Hilton. But like, I don't know how to have a conversation with Kathy Hilton. We just started talking about her dogs. And then we were talking about Sutton because her house, she had just found out that her house was burglarized. And then I read that Kathy's was too. Yeah. And Rick was home. Yeah. That's what was crazy. So crazy. But I'm glad that at least that beef was squashed.
Starting point is 00:25:25 And I had such a fun show. Day four, you want us to sing at the very end of it. But it was such a fun way to end it. But I was so thankful. I didn't have a solo. Lisa Barlow, I could not believe she sang. Because her voice was worse than mine. It meaning like she lost her voice.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was like, are you really going to sing tonight? She's like, yep, we're going to do it. Oh, my God. She had to keep her glasses on because her eyes. You know, and like it gets like red, like the blood. Busted capillaries, yeah. That happened.
Starting point is 00:25:56 And she was just like, I don't even know how I got this. I'm like, we are falling apart, ladies. But Melissa Gorga. Gorgia. Gorgeous. On the sleigh. Oh, my gosh. She's gorgeous.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Obsessed. Yeah. She looked so good. That was like my favorite part. Just her coming out on that. Yeah. So good. Before we move on, any other tea from your panels and which one was your fave?
Starting point is 00:26:19 Honestly, I really liked the rumor spill. That one had Denise Richards, Brittany, Countess Luann, and Kim Zolsiak. And, you know, they kind of tailored it, I think, to kind of make fun of me being the, like, world's famous blogger and all of that. And at one point, Luanne talks about how, you know, there was a rumors of her and Joe Bradley. And actually this was a rumor. Well, that was the thing. Like, it was kind of like, you know, going back and forth.
Starting point is 00:26:42 And then a woman comes up to her at the bar and she's like, I just want to introduce myself. I'm Joe's mom. So she ended up, like, kind of hanging with Joe. Radley's mom. Yeah, I did meet his parents. And so that was really funny. And then Luanne also said, I, or no, Kim said I wanted to spell the rumor. You know, I did not sleep with Jack's Taylor.
Starting point is 00:27:00 I did not have, wasn't pregnant with Jack Taylor. Wait, who said? Kim Zolciat, because, you know, there was rumors that Kim and Jacks. I thought it was Ramona. No, well, Kim, there was a rumor that him, Jacks was going to meet them up for dinner. She's like, I never slept with Jacks. And I wasn't pregnant with his baby. I wouldn't do that.
Starting point is 00:27:13 So that was kind of funny. But, yeah. Wait, that's funny. Yeah. All right, we're going to take one last break. and then be right back with the rest of your questions. Since I started with a new trainer, I have been tracking my protein.
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Starting point is 00:30:35 Had to Wayfair.com now to shop Wayfair's Black Friday deals for up to 70% off. That's W-A-Y-F-A-R.com. Sale ends December 7th. Okay. Next question, at BravoCon, and I just want you to know, I've not looked at any of these questions yet, so I'm just, I'm like, okay, wait, Kristen, what? At BravoCon, Kristen said that she's missing part of the story of the drama between you and Lala, but she also said that Lala never talks about you, suggesting that you talk about Lala. Okay, well, that's interesting. I guess the part of the story she's missing would be mine.
Starting point is 00:31:12 I haven't talked to Kristen about the reasons for the fall. out. So anything she's heard would have had to have come from Lala because I have not talked to Kristen about that. Kristen and I are cool, but like we're not best friends. And I'm very happy being in that lane. Like you got a mom question. I'm here for you. You need something. I'm here for you. But we're just not the friends who are going to be, you know, going to each other's houses for lunch and like hanging out all the time. But her speaking on me once again without knowing the full story is annoying because I know she said something at the Valley Panel. And it's like she has a way of saying things to fit in narrative.
Starting point is 00:31:55 She wants people to buy, you know? And I mean, case and point, she says she's missing part of the story and then says Lala never talks about me. She could have said, I'm missing Chena's side of the story. Neither speaks to me about one another. Something along those lines. So, and also I've talked about it on the podcast. Like you're going to tell me you haven't seen it.
Starting point is 00:32:16 Come on. Like, you know why we had a fallout. But, I mean, I saw Lala. She came up to me, gave me a hug. Okay. I talked to her at school on Halloween. Ocean came in. Adorable. She was Wednesday. She had a thing on her head. Right when she walked in, I was like, Ocean, there's something on your head. And like, we just had like a cute little moment. I'm like, we're fine. We're cordial. But it's like the kids still go to school together. Yeah. You know, they might do some extracurricular activities next. year they might end up in the same dance class again or whatever because I know we're applying to different schools.
Starting point is 00:32:51 Yeah. But yeah. Anyway, did you squash any beef at BravoCon? Is this for me or you? I mean, I didn't think I had any beef to squat. Well, you know. Yeah. So, I mean, I squashed it with Adriana, as I said.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Didn't even know there was beef in the first place until she was on Watch What Happens Live. I addressed beef with Katie in glam. We were there together every morning. Okay. And I know she told people about it because a bunch of the O.C. ladies were coming up to me that day. And they're like, I heard that Katie said or that you said to Katie to keep your name out of her mouth and like this and that. And I was like, that's a little more aggressive.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Is that what you said? I didn't say it in that way. No. Okay. I just went up. I introduced myself and I just said, I know you know who I am because you've been talking about me. Okay. So if that is how she interpreted.
Starting point is 00:33:45 it, then yeah. Okay. Keep my name out of your mouth if you're going to be spreading lies. Okay. And I said that that was not true. And I thanked her for giving Shea the opportunity to DJ her party. I thought that was really dope. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:34:01 I'll get into more of this next week with Chanel, but. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Anyway. Okay. Okay. There was kind of, I don't know if it was beef, but one thing I wanted to squash. So, like, I love Mary Cosby. I've always loved her.
Starting point is 00:34:12 She blocked me like two years ago. I know. What? Because I don't think she understood that, like, my sense of humor and I thought she was really funny. Basically, she was, like, doing, like, a Father's Day tribute to Robert Sr., but the whole tribute was a video of just pictures of herself. And I thought it was hilarious because I was like, there was not a single picture of him in the Father's Day tribute. And so I, like, kind of was like, oh, my God, I love Mary. She's hilarious.
Starting point is 00:34:31 It was like, oh, my God, best day ever. I posted in my feet and immediately blocked me. And I was devastated. But I was always like, but I still love you. I don't know you blocked me anyway. So I saw her in the lobby bar and I just went up. And this was after she'd been on reality check. So she knew me.
Starting point is 00:34:45 So I was kind of like, okay, I just want you to get to know me. And I went up and I said, you know, Mary, I love you. And I just want to ask, like, do you think there's any chance you block me? And she was like, well, why would I have you blocked? I only blocked people who disrespect me. And I said, well, I just think that you didn't get my sense of humor. I was really just like saying how funny you are. But just if there's a chance to get unblocked, you know, you know me now.
Starting point is 00:35:05 So I don't know. We'll see if it happens. I hope so. I'm praying. You don't know if she unblocked yet. I mean, it didn't happen that day. I would have been like, get your phone right now. It's at the talk of shame.
Starting point is 00:35:17 Angie was sitting there and she heard the whole thing because she was kind of horrified. Like, wait, what did you do to get blocked? And so I'll follow up with Angie and be like, okay, just nudge, you know, Mary. Yeah. I felt so honored that Mary knew who I was. Oh, my God. I went up to her. So I'm in the like talent holding area where they have all the food and it's like, you know,
Starting point is 00:35:36 hundreds of people in there. And I had my slippers on because my feet were killing me. I go up to Andy in my slippers. take a selfie with him because also then I'm like about the same height rather than like six inch heels that I had on that day. And then I see Mary and I was like, oh my God. And I'm taking my slippers off. I put my heels on. And Mark goes, you're going to put your heels on for Mary and not for Andy. I'm like, absolutely. Do you see how she's dressed? Have you seen her closet? So I put the heels on. I run over to her and I was like, I just have to say like, you are one of
Starting point is 00:36:06 my favorites. You're so funny. She's like, oh my God. Thank you, Sheena. And I was just like, you know who I am. Oh my God. Okay, that was like, okay, that was another moment that I had. We're at the party, the Friday night party. And I'm sitting there. And then someone's like said something like Kiki Monique. And then Sherey Whitfield looks over.
Starting point is 00:36:22 She goes, Kiki Monique. The Kiki Monique. Oh, I'm going to come get to tea from you, Kiki Monique. And I was like, I died. Yeah, we didn't get to talk because she was busy. But I hope I get to see her again one day. But just like, I'm like, the fact that you know my name. I know.
Starting point is 00:36:35 And then when Bronwyn said, Sheena, I was like, oh, you are just iconic. I know. I loved it. So good. Still sticking with the beef. There's the Tamara of it all. Here's the thing with Tamara. There is a lot of shade I could throw back at her.
Starting point is 00:36:52 But I'm going to say this. After observing her behavior this weekend, like I am genuinely concerned. I said what I said on stage. But Tamara and I, I mean, we were at one point talking almost every day. You know, I was. talking to her throughout the season, despite Gretchen being a good friend of mine, I was checking
Starting point is 00:37:15 in on her when I saw she posted the story saying she quit. I commented on the story as well as text her to check in. And like, we were on the phone often. Like, I felt like we were good friends. And this weekend, it's like, there was just something off where she just doesn't seem well. and I don't know it's like I I care about her I want the best for her but she wants to keep having a go at me and I don't know why I'm like do you want me on your show do you want to have a go at me on real housewives because you're campaigning for me maybe like I don't I don't know what it is but I mean I don't want anything bad to happen to her you know I've had friends go through severe mental health crises before and it's just kind of what she's reminding me of. It's a bit
Starting point is 00:38:09 like Jekyll and Hydeish, you know? But like, okay, when was it? I think it was Saturday night maybe. We were getting back to the hotel and I was with Mark and a couple other people and we're getting in the elevator and they go, oh, Tamara and Eddie just stopped because she realized like you were getting in the elevator. And I'm like, okay, well, I don't need her getting in the elevator. with me anyways. But when we stopped, so the floor that Mark had to get out on, I guess is the same floor she was staying on. So both elevators opened at the same time. Mark gets out. And then I see her and Eddie walk by. And I just like, I was surprised. I didn't know she was going to be getting out on that floor. Yeah. So I was not giving her a death stare, but I just kind of looked like probably
Starting point is 00:38:55 confused. Yeah. And I'm pretty sure my Botox is still intact. And she looks and she goes, but in like not a sarcastic way. Okay. It was in like a genuine way. And so then I'm like, huh? I'm like, first she said she was excited to see me.
Starting point is 00:39:13 But then, oh yeah, then she was like blowing kisses. Like, I love you. And it was just, I was very confused. Did you blow kisses back?
Starting point is 00:39:22 No, I just looked confused. And then it's like the doors were closing as she was doing that. Eddie had given me like a couple smiles over the weekend. And I'm like, I don't have any beef with you, dude. Like, you know who you're married to.
Starting point is 00:39:35 So it was just, it was weird, you know? But it's like, I've never done anything to this woman except hold her accountable when she has allowed lies to be spread about me and perpetuated rumors about me. And I'm just like, what did I do to you? You know what? I feel like this requires what? A dinner at the quiet woman. Oh, my gosh. To settle it all.
Starting point is 00:40:02 Right. Next season. I'm just kidding. But also like seeing her behavior on the reunion, you know, just how she's behaving towards Shannon is also just someone who's not well. And, you know, I hope she's still sticking in therapy. I don't know if she needs a new therapist or if she just says she's in therapy because that's what people want to hear. But she's not really able to regulate her emotions right now. Like, I feel like my four and a half year old daughter can regulate her emotions better.
Starting point is 00:40:33 And I'm listening to, as we know, the Let Them Theory right now, she should listen to Chapter 7. It is all about emotional immaturity and when adults have the emotional regulation of like a five to eight year old. And there were just a lot of things when I was listening to that chapter that I'm like, she should have a listen. It talks about adults throwing tantrums. And I genuinely feel like Tamara is one of those adults who throws tantrums. The way she snaps so quick and just her responses to things, I mean, I guess you can say that's what makes her an iconic housewife. But it also, as someone who I felt like had been her friend for so many years, like it does
Starting point is 00:41:23 concern me. So I wish her the best. I wish Teddy nothing but the best. I wish I was able to, like, go up to Teddy and hug her, but I was getting weird stairs from them. And I was just like, I made eye contact with Teddy. And I didn't really, like, know what to do or say because she was the one that started the rumor about me in the first place. And then when I asked her about it, it was like, oh, this is so silly. Like, I'm not giving this any light. You know, it's like, be accountable, accountable coach. And like, we've been friends for years too.
Starting point is 00:41:53 I'm just like, what did I do to these women, you know? And right when I passed Teddy and Tamara on the bus when we were on our way back Friday night, they both just were like, like, right after I walked by and I'm like, y'all, chapter seven, let them theory. Oh, my gosh. Listen to it. It's a good listen. Anyway, okay. Moving on, what did you think of Shep yelling in the bar about Paige?
Starting point is 00:42:17 Wait, what? Yeah, like someone got on video. Oh, I did see something like that. And I don't know who he was talking to, but he was ranting about how Paige and Craig made millions as a couple, and then she broke up with him on a podcast. But I'm like, Shep, why are you screaming about this in the hotel bar, not even like the Four Seasons one, just the Mandalay Bay to open to the public? Interesting.
Starting point is 00:42:40 And why are you thinking about Paige right now? It was so weird. Yeah. Someone else wrote in and said, please call Lindsay Hubbard live to find out what happened with Tom and Victoria. I was wondering how that started. Well, you were there kind of, I think, towards the end. I was watching him in Victoria for like probably a good 40 minutes before that.
Starting point is 00:43:00 They were all over the place. They were running, kind of like walking around the bar. It felt very erratic. They were going over the black velvet rope that was, you know, courting the public off back and forth, back and forth. And I was like, what is happening there? And so it felt like Lindsay probably was trying to just like be a mom and be like, y'all need to calm the fuck down or something.
Starting point is 00:43:16 But I don't know. Like, I would love to find, like, you should find out from Lindsay like what was going on. She was one of the best dressed, I will say. She looks right. She looked fucking incredible. for like having to be, I mean, everyone was, I was like, next year, I am going to be so on it. Oh my God. I loved that Chanel Ion told me I was one of the best dressed and one of her favorites.
Starting point is 00:43:40 And I was just, no, you look amazing. But she was on the red carpet because I didn't really do any interviews. But then I saw her and I was like, okay, yours I will. And she had the panther dress on. And I was so obsessed with it. I'm so excited. she's going to be on the podcast next week. But when she said that to me, I was just like,
Starting point is 00:43:58 you're just being nice, you know, because we're doing an interview, but no, she meant it. No, like, I only want to be interviewed by Chanel Ion. Yeah. This is her lane. Like, she could be like the new Joan Rivers. Like, this is it.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Like, she's, no one will ever be able to take that spot again. No. It is dedicated to her. She's iconic. How were all of the OC ladies with you, Kiki, after the drama that went down this season? Honestly, everyone was so nice.
Starting point is 00:44:23 I think I talked to every single. one of them, obviously minus one. But, yeah, like, we all talked and, like, they were all very, like, supportive and just, like, Heather was the first one I saw as I was checking in. And, like, I didn't realize her and Terry were there. And she came over and she just wanted to say, like, thank you. I know it's been a lot. Like, you've, you know, you've been through the ringer, basically.
Starting point is 00:44:43 Yeah. Thank you. So they were all just very much, like, thank you. I love that. Yeah. What happens after you leave BravoCon? What do all the Bravo Labs do? So, well, if I announce this and everyone's just going to know what we do, but I host a Sheena Shea
Starting point is 00:45:02 Shea Unofficial After Party and it started out very slow. Everyone was like, I don't know about this, Sheena. And I was like, trust me, it's going to be fun. We all ate some chocolate. We got out on the dance floor, started some rumors, and had the best time. It was so much. fun. Schwartz and I were walking out of our rooms Monday morning at the same time. And he goes, I kind of wish I just had like one more day. He's like not to like BravoCon, but just to go down to the pool, to chill, to go to the spa. And I'm like, you know what? We should do that next year. Like even just if we leave in the evening instead of the morning. But, you know, I'm a mom. I had to get back. I wanted to see summer the second she got out of school. But I'm like, oh, that would be
Starting point is 00:45:52 nice to just hang in Vegas or even just like a couple extra days, but maybe have summer and like my parents come out do a show, a dinner, and just completely decompress. Yeah, no, I would have loved to have. I didn't get one pool day because a Saturday would be in the one day maybe I could have, it was raining like crazy. So I wanted a pool day and a massage. I know, me too. I didn't even use the full room credit that we had. You did it? No, I was like Jesse Solomon or someone too. It was like, never have I ever had a room credit that I didn't fully use until this weekend. You must have gotten more than me because we blew through ours in like no time. Yeah, I just, I wasn't, I guess, at the hotel enough.
Starting point is 00:46:33 We had two or three things of room service. And it was also, it was two of us. So we had a double credit. But, yeah. Did you make any new friends that might surprise us? Did you? I feel like Denise Richards and I got closer. Yes.
Starting point is 00:46:49 I feel like we got closer. I don't know. Everyone I met, I feel like I kind of became a friend. Like, they recognize me. I think it's like maybe they didn't recognize me now that Durinda and I have the show. I think I'm more recognizable as the Kiki with Durinda and, you know, maybe they'll go watch O.C. And see more. I feel like I just got closer with people I already knew.
Starting point is 00:47:10 And then it's like I met some of the Salt Lake women who I had never met before, Mary, Angie Kay, Bronwyn. But I just got. deeper connections with the ones that I already knew. Like Captain Sandy's done my podcast before, but then we had a little surprise event together, just her and I. Okay. So we were backstage the whole time with her beautiful wife. She had the same suit that I had, not on,
Starting point is 00:47:35 but she's like, wait, Nadine Marabi, I have that suit. Oh, my God. And it was just such a good time. It reminds me what a family Bravo truly is. Like, I don't know if any other network is like this. family sort of, you know? I don't think it's possible because I think the other networks are so sort of like new in their reality
Starting point is 00:47:57 that like the sort of infrastructure you built with that. It just with newer, newer like whatever reality stars, I don't think they would get it. So yeah, I know it's such a family thing. And I will say the one thing I was so like that made me feel so good was as I was meeting these like Bravo Labs that maybe only knew me
Starting point is 00:48:15 from OC or whatever, we're still sharing tea with me. And so I was kind of like, that made me feel good. Like, my reputation is not been stained by this, like, BS allegations that I go and run my mouth. Everyone knows it's BS. I know. But it was nice. You know, I like hearing tea.
Starting point is 00:48:32 Yes, I know, right? What are your thoughts on the Jeff Lewis and Andy Cohen beef? Well, now it seems like, from what I understand, they've squashed it, they've made up. And I was so glad because I didn't get to watch that panel until I got home and watched it on peak. cut. And I, the whole time was like literally like white knuckled. Like this is the most awkward thing I've ever watched because it was so uncomfortable. So I'm glad they made up because like that was like it was hard to watch. Yeah. Last one just says give us the tea. What hookups happened that we don't know about? I'm not going to tell. Anyway, jack's hole of the week, you know, I'm going to give it to LVP. It's like she may not like what I have to say, but it is the truth. So we always close out the show with the jacks hole each week.
Starting point is 00:49:26 But it hasn't sat well with me to highlight something negative while not balancing it with something positive. I am on this. Let them positive manifestation. journey right now. And the whole Jacksonville thing, it just happened organically. I think I just said it once. And I was like, oh, my God, that's funny. We should do that. But I just didn't know quite how to structure it. So this week, I'm going to be rolling out the flowers of the week. We can give someone a jackshole, but then we can also give someone their flowers. So our inaugural flowers are going to go to you, Kiki. Yes. You are a one woman media operation competing.
Starting point is 00:50:07 and often getting it more accurate and out in the world faster than legacy media companies with hundreds of people on the payroll. And I mean, you crushed it at BravoCon. You know, like, I'm so happy that people are seeing how talented you are. They're catching on to it. They're still giving you the tea, which I absolutely love. I love that people know your full name, Kiki Monique. It's like, you know when people come up, they're like, oh my God, it's Cheney. It's like, you just, when they say your full name, it just makes you feel a little cooler. So, I just am so happy about that. I'm happy to have you as a friend and a co-host.
Starting point is 00:50:42 And, I mean, six panels at BravoCon, just amazing. You crushed it. And I still don't know if you sleep, but your face card suggests that you do. So that's good enough for me. And I also would like to give an honorable mention to Chanel Aion. She was the star of BravoCon and just an icon. And I love her. And I can't wait for her to be here next week to get into some Chanel.
Starting point is 00:51:07 nanigans with me. So thank you all for listening. Thank you Kiki for joining me in the studio today. Make sure to listen to Kiki Weekdays on Radio Andy's reality checked and find her on Instagram at the Talk of Shame. And Mary, can you please unblock her if you see this? And if you haven't already gotten your copy of the New York Times bestselling book, My Goodside, or the audio book, at mygoodsidebook.com. Thanks for listening. See you next week. Thanks for listening to shenanigans with Shea Shea. Tune in next time for juicy updates from the world of reality TV, pop culture, and more. Download new episodes every week on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you like to listen.
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