Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - Can Reality TV Survive This Week?!
Episode Date: April 3, 2026Scheana and Kiki are back with a jam-packed episode diving into the reality TV drama everyone’s talking about—from the Hamptons to Utah. They break down the chaos surrounding Summer ...House stars Amanda and West, from shocking rumors to timeline questions, shifting group dynamics, and what this could mean for the show (and its spinoff). Plus, why didn’t Kiki believe the rumors at first? Then it’s over to Utah, where the relationship mess only gets messier. Is it all real, or is something else going on behind the scenes? Scheana also opens up about her own experience jumping from one relationship to the next—and why taking time to heal matters. One thing they do agree on: your friend’s ex is off-limits. Plus, a viral “queef” misunderstanding has them crying laughing, MLB’s new tech is exposing years of height catfishing, and they debate whether future technology could reveal all of our real stats…whether we like it or not. Messy, hilarious, and unfiltered—just how you like it. Follow us: @scheana @scheananigans Co-Host: @thetalkofshame Purchase your very own copy of the NYT Best-selling book/audiobook MY GOOD SIDE at www.mygoodsidebook.com!Produced by Dear MediaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Warm up the kettle.
It's time to spill some tea.
Let's get into some shenanigans with Shea Shea.
Okay, and we're back.
For more shenanigans, I mean, we are just going to have to jump right into this because I feel my blood pressure raised.
I feel PTSD from Scandival.
I mean, I think we just have to start with this,
and then we'll go back to what I was going to talk about in the beginning.
But West and Amanda, oh my God.
WTF.
Like, I will say, I was, till the very end,
I was just like, I refuse to believe this.
Literally last night, Brock and I are watching,
and we're watching everything.
And he's like, I think it's true.
And I'm like, there's no way.
Like, Amanda and Sierra were partnered with.
with everything together at BravoCon.
And Amanda was like, oh, it's just like, no offense to Paige.
She loves Paige.
That's like her best friend, you know, but she was like, it is nice since Paige isn't here.
I get partnered with Sierra.
And I don't have to be with Kyle for everything.
Because obviously, shit already had hit the fan with them by the time.
BravoCon came around, even though she was acting like everything was fine.
But it was the three of us did a shoot together.
Okay.
And then they did some with just me and Brock.
Then they did some with just Amanda and Sierra.
but it was the three of us, like doing this together.
Oh, my God.
I think the reason I was so torn is because there are certain accounts I fully trust.
They are very good sources and they were telling me it's true.
It's true.
I'm telling you it's true.
And so I had no reason to doubt them.
The only reason I started to doubt them is accounts that were making up lies about you
and I during that whole Orange County stuff.
Oh, the Gretchen stuff.
Yeah.
So I was like, you know, I knew those were lies.
So I was like, I can't trust these sources.
So I was literally caught between both, but I was like I should have done.
just one with the people I knew were very legit.
Oh, this is so crazy.
So it's like West is now ready for a relationship.
Amanda wanted zero time to be single just from one to the next, one man child to another.
No.
I mean.
It's not, this is like, I just don't understand when she had so much goodwill about to be poured
upon her.
So much.
These brand deals and like.
Yeah.
And look, I'm glad Sierra's going to get the glow up.
I'm so down for it because I am so hurt for her.
It's me too.
This is not okay.
And like, I'm sorry.
No, I'm not making any excuses for Amanda.
Yes, we saw how Kyle treated you all summer.
That is still no excuse.
And I can't believe Kyle is going to come out looking better than Amanda after this season.
How crazy after calling her a dumb ass bitch.
On camera.
I feel like Amanda was about to get the Ariana treatment.
And now she is Raquel.
Yep.
She's the Rachel.
Yep.
And I can't see the brands knocking on her door again anytime soon.
No, and I don't see that.
I mean, look, the only empathy I have for her is she has been very open about her, like, mental health
struggles.
Yes.
But I also don't know why she would put herself in this position, knowing that she needs to work
through those things anyways.
Like, I'm sorry, men are not the thing that are solving your problem.
So why are you jumping into a relationship with another man?
It doesn't make any sense.
You are not a healed problem.
person. Like I get, you can't help who you fall for, but like your best friends, dude, that you
clearly see, they still have chemistry, they still have an attraction to each other.
You've been pushing it during the season, sort of. The last two episodes, I caught up on both of them
last night. And it's like, you see West with Sierra, like, touching her arm and, like, rubbing her back
and, like, just wanting to be close to her and, like, getting obviously very bothered by Jesse asking
if he could make out with her.
At least he asked.
Yeah.
Did you ask Sierra Amanda?
Did you say, is it okay?
And then, like, West whispering, like, I love you.
At least walking out the room.
That I love you literally hits different.
Like, it felt odd in the moment, but I was like, okay,
he just really did not like how Kyle was treating her
and wanted to make her feel that she is important.
But, like, now that I love you, because now we got to get to timeline.
We have to understand timeline.
I just interviewed this whole Summer House cast for Sirius in New York City
that was in January.
The girls seemed to have a fine relationship, so clearly...
They were still hiding it then.
They were hiding it, but what was going on?
Like, when did the deriding start?
And was it at a time when Sierra was still confiding in you
about possibly wanting to rekindle things?
Like, how long has this been going on?
Oh, my gosh.
And now with Summer House, I mean, this is happening, obviously, in the off season.
We know there's a new, like, city spinoff with Amanda and Lynn.
I don't know if Sierra was going to be on that.
If she was going to stay on Summer House,
are we going to like see this fallout at the reunion?
Right?
They haven't filmed the reunion yet.
Exactly.
And like what's that feeding chart going to look like?
It's going to be worse for West than last time.
I mean, like, how do we even put,
I wouldn't want to look her in the eye.
I wouldn't want to be next to her.
Like, but like what really pisses me off, honestly,
is like there's something, I don't know.
I don't want to say sinister,
but it's, I just feel like Amanda almost wanted to blow up Summerhouse.
she went on to the spinoff because we just got amazing new additions.
I love all the new additions for SummerHouse.
I do too.
I really do.
Yeah.
And I love that Sierra had support with Mia and KJ.
I loved that we got to see.
I loved those conversations.
And now it's like, what is, at the end of the day, if she wants to move on and we can go on with the,
I'll be fine with that cast and move on because I don't know, are you trying to blow up
this summer house on your way out?
It feels very, I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Maybe we don't know, maybe we don't know.
I mean, at the end of the day, we don't.
I mean, you might know her more than some people, but.
Kyle better. I've always been closer with Kyle just because I have known him longer, but
Kyle checks in. Kyle shows up. Kyle comes to my birthday. I've hung out with Kyle at festivals.
And every time I see Amanda, it's like catching up with someone I haven't seen in years. I'm like,
oh my God, how are you? And like, but she's not good at texting back. I'll say that.
So it's like anytime I invite her to something or text her, send her love, like she very rarely,
if ever, responds. I will say, I always thought it was weird because I've probably met Kyle like four or
times. A few of those times were in like public events. I was kind of like, okay, you know, maybe
Amanda didn't want to show up. But a couple times were at your birthday. And I always thought it was weird
because one time I think Amanda was in L.A. So I was like, why is she not at the birthday? And I did
think it was weird that she like never came around. This is so nuts. And like for her to post a joint
statement with Kyle just a couple months ago. And now with her new boyfriend, Wes, like, is this a record
of joint statements and relationships in the Bravo sphere?
I just, the reason it gives me so much ick is that I just,
any woman who just centers men,
because she's trying to act like she has now become this new woman.
No, you are still centering men, it seems like, in every decision in her life.
Girl, if you want to be that, fine, go off.
But don't try to pretend to be this like girls, girl,
independent woman, all of this stuff.
No, just go do your thing.
I need Paige and Hannah's hot take on this.
ASAP drop the Giggly Squad episode right now.
No.
They need to host the Summer House reunion with Candy.
Like, they need to be on that stage.
Right?
Yeah.
Oh, this is so crazy.
Had it been posted tomorrow, I wouldn't have believed it.
I'm like, it's an April full joke, right?
Like, they're fucking with us, which is fucked up for Sierra.
But like, they're fucking with us.
Yeah.
But no.
They drop it on March 31st.
Mm-hmm.
This is the craziest news I've heard all of spring break.
I know.
And I hate that we're recording so early because who knows what's going to happen between
now and Friday.
That's what's crazy.
It's Tuesday.
Shit.
Because we're going to, I mean, I don't know.
Okay, so you kind of know, because you've gone through this.
Yes.
Do you think that Bravo will put like a whole, like, not like, Sierra won't be able to make any
statements?
She might be able to make a statement, but say anything more because they want to just
capture it all for the reunion.
I think this could be a camera's up emergency situation.
Okay.
Let's get her reaction.
Let's get a Sierra Jesse Solomon scene.
Let's get a Kyle scene.
Let's get as many scenes with this group.
as possible. Maybe not necessarily pick up cameras for two weeks like Scandival did, but there's no way
they're not going to capture this moment and just save it for the reunion. I think this is too big of a deal,
especially with what's airing right now. And you are seeing West comfort Amanda. What actually
happened in the bathroom? Sure, they're wearing mics. You hear their conversation. But there could
have been some touching, caressing, like, eyes, gazing, something staring. Like, I don't know.
My God. And then what does this do for the end of the city spinoff? Because, like, I now don't want
to watch a series. I mean, they've already filmed it. I don't want to watch a series where it's just,
like, a man and Kyle talking about their ending of the relationship. I'm done with that.
Yeah. So, like, what happens? I know. I mean, I don't care to watch that. No. I don't think
anyone is going to be done with Summerhouse this season. So I was like, page is gone. I'm over it. But I'm
like, no, I'm still friends with a lot of these people. I'm still going to watch it. And I'm
truly enjoying it. Yeah. That I'm like, I'll just keep watching Summer House. Yeah. Yeah.
I just, oh, God. Sending all of the flowers and love to Sierra because this girl has just been
put through it on this show. She does not deserve it. She is one of, if not the most stunning person
I've ever met. Like, she is so sweet in and out. I just absolutely adore her. And this is just so
fucked up. Yeah.
Like, I'm just like, there's no coming back for Amanda
for this. No. I just like, who?
That's just energy. Yeah,
that energy is, mm-mm.
Mm-hmm.
I just had to get that out first.
Okay, but can we also talk about there was a time when Sierra did make
this post like, I don't like when
girls or when people move weird.
And we all thought she was talking about Sally Carson,
who was supposed to kind of canoeing.
Oh, I did see that recently.
But, like, what if she kind of knew this all, like,
she had a feeling.
Yeah.
My sister said that they were just seen, I don't know if it was here somewhere, like in Orange
County or whatever.
She goes, oh, yeah, they were just together the other day.
Yeah, they were apparently in Corona Del Mar.
Yeah, Corona Del Mar.
That's what she said.
I mean, I just, that's why I was just like.
The nerve.
Yeah.
Wow.
And you know what is so crazy?
Okay, I'm going to go, Ali, I do love you, but she's not always my resident, astrologer.
I've got to play this for you because it definitely, hold on.
Let me just lie it.
The full moon on April 1st, April 2nd is delivering karma to those who have wronged you,
and it's exposing lies, especially in relationships.
If someone has lied to you, manipulated you or treated you poorly,
they are going to receive bad karma for that immediately.
Their consequences will be worse than whatever they inflicted on you.
And you will find out every truth about them.
This is because the full moon is in Libra, the sign of justice,
and it's opposing Saturn, the planet of truth and karma.
So if someone's been playing mind games on you,
or they've been dishonest, they're going to lose control,
you're going to see right through them,
and something's likely going to go wrong in their personal life.
Or if someone's backstabbed you,
you're going to find out,
and someone will likely batstab them back.
People who have hurt you are going to get hurt back,
and you are going to find out everything you want to know.
For example, if someone's secretly obsessed with you,
they're not going to be able to hide it,
and you likely will find out.
Or if someone's been hiding something from you,
or they've been playing mind games to have power and control over you,
you're also going to find out.
Because this full moon will bring justice.
and reveal the truth.
I'll post exactly how each sign is affected by this full moon.
And my...
Yeah.
Like, karma's coming.
Yeah.
April first.
Yeah.
I can't even believe we're already in April.
I know.
This year is going by so quick.
My kid's about to turn five.
Oh.
Like, what is happening?
Yeah.
We're on a two and a half week spring break, which is so long.
So long.
I know.
Get that long for spring break.
I think it's because she's on gear round at her preschool.
Okay.
So it's like really long breaks.
And like she was just saying, the full moon.
So it's a full pink moon.
Okay.
Tomorrow night.
I'm going to take summer up to the planetarium, the observatory, and go up there because she knows she was born on a pink full super moon.
Oh, was she?
Okay.
Yeah, that's where her middle name comes from.
Oh.
That full moon is marking the full arrival of spring, and it just ushers in a time of renewal and growth.
And this is wild.
It is wild.
Well, Sierra is about to grow.
She's about to bloom.
I cannot wait to see it.
Yeah.
She deserves all of it.
She really does.
Yeah.
Okay, so April Fool's Day.
We've got the Valley premiering.
That is actually happening, right?
It's not a joke.
Yes.
It is happening.
I know you've seen the first episode.
Do you think just based off the first episode that anyone who maybe was disliked
will be liked more or do you think it's going to kind of be the same?
I'm interested to see what the audience thinks.
I will say I'm interested to see the dynamic because, you know, first episode, we do see Lala and Janet very much buddy buddy.
Obviously, people did not like Janet last season.
I'm curious, like, if the Lala will make her more likable or if it's going to bring Lala.
I don't know.
Like, I don't know what's going to happen there.
So, yeah, I don't know.
But it's, you know, I don't really notice Jack's missing.
but I'm curious as the season goes on
if that will be more obvious
but like, you know, we have a full cast
and, you know, everyone's coupled up.
The big cast, was it 13 of them?
I mean, it's a lot.
It's a lot of people, yeah.
Are you going to watch this season?
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
All right.
Yeah, it's still like majority are my friends, you know,
minus one.
Okay.
Yeah, so, no, I will absolutely be tuning in.
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Okay, so I have to say, I'm sure the cast of Secret Lives and Mormon Wives with this news today, they're feeling like, oh, okay, it's not just us.
Let's take the heat off us for a second.
Because, I mean, the reality TV friend group, you know, Vanderpump Rules, I think, was kind of just known for it being a bit incestual within the workplace.
But, I mean, what is going on in Utah with Jesse and Chase, who.
Miranda's ex-husband, Miranda's her friend.
Also, Kate's ex-boyfriend, Kate is her friend.
What are we thinking of this?
Look, I mean, I will say I always thought Chase was probably the most attractive within that group.
But I'm like, okay, you guys, there's got to be other men in Utah that you can get with.
This doesn't make any sense.
I just feel, again, bad for Miranda.
Even though she doesn't even want Chase, she's just like, why is my baby daddy always with my friends?
Please, leave him alone.
The things she posted was like, it's like a revolving.
Revolving waiting room or something like that revolving or waiting room for my ex-husband.
I just like, it's weird because, like, in this situation, I do feel like there is an element of, like,
trying to make more drama happen that is unnecessary because that's how they know how to make TV.
Like, so I'm kind of like getting less interested in it because I'm just like, what's, what's real?
Are you got, like, are you really making out with this guy because you like him?
Are you making out with this guy because it's, like, going to be something fun to talk about next season?
Because you guys are filming so much.
And that's what I was wondering, like, is it even real?
Is it just to, like, take the heat off of Taylor?
Yeah.
Is it, because, I mean, come on.
Yeah.
You're supposed to be girls' girls.
Yeah.
It doesn't.
Isn't that what mom talk is about?
It doesn't really make sense.
But again, like, I don't know.
I don't know.
You know, have you talked to Jessie?
I mean, you're...
So I talked to her last week.
Okay.
I saw she was in L.A.
Okay.
And so I had texted her.
and she's like, oh my God, I have so much to catch you up on.
And I was like, I'm driving for an hour to the gym today, like to and from.
I said, if you can call me.
And then she didn't text me back for a few hours.
And she was just like, sorry, crazy day.
I have a podcast tomorrow.
Obviously, we now know that was call her daddy.
And I haven't talked to her since.
But then it was like that next day, like everything came out.
So I'm like, you don't have to catch me up.
The internet caught me up.
Yeah.
I did find it interesting.
I saw somewhere that it was like Demi and Jessica.
I guess are the ones that are being Taylor, Frankie Paul was saying,
are the most supportive for her,
which I thought was interesting because I'm like,
the two of them still are not talking.
I know, right?
But yeah, Demi has been in constant contact with Taylor,
with her family, just like providing her resources and really being there for her.
But then it just seems like everyone else is kind of doing their own thing.
Obviously Whitney is like fine being a Broadway star.
I don't think she has any interest in returning to Utah.
No, she wants her own show and all of that.
Do that.
And then like Jen and Michaela have.
moved to California and it seems like...
Oh, Michaela, too?
Well, I saw her in...
I don't know if she's moved, but it sounds like she had made a move.
I don't know what it was for.
But I guess Jen, it sounds like, is going to be doing this possible Mormon-wild
spin-off in OC.
That's happening.
And then, yeah, I don't know.
Which Macy would make the most sense on...
That's what I'm saying.
I was kind of like, that's who...
That's how I learned there was this huge Mormon community from her book.
So, why would she not be a part of it?
I think her sister is.
Oh, okay.
From what I've heard.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Okay.
But, oh, so much.
I mean, Chase has now had something with, what is it, four of Miranda's friends.
Yeah, gross.
Taylor.
Layla.
Yeah.
Which I, that's, and then she went with the brother.
Yeah.
weird. I don't know. Like, I just don't have friends
like that, but, like, maybe that's more common in Utah.
I don't know. Yeah.
Miranda, her quote was,
unfortunately, I'm familiar with this territory,
clearly. It's been before. I knew
there had been communication between Chase and Jesse,
but not to what extent.
Then Chase was up front and told me
they were talking and that they kissed.
Jessie reached out only after
she knew Chase had told me something was going
on with them. And today, at the
same time, a rumor started spreading online
that something was going on with Chase and Jesse.
I received apology flowers from Jesse.
Messy Jessie.
I did not see this coming.
Messy Jesse.
I mean, and right when I feel like people were going to be really supporting Jesse,
really supporting Amanda.
Why do you go and hook up with your friend's ex?
Again, these are unheeled women.
And I'm saying this from a place of love.
And she even admits I'll call her daddy.
Jessie does how she jumped from her marriage to this relationship with Jordan
and ended up in the same.
Yeah.
So like, let's heal ladies.
Let's work on ourselves.
I know.
I mean, look, I'm guilty of that as well.
Post-divorce, I was immediately like the ink wasn't even dry yet.
And I was like, Rob, let's go out.
But I'm like, learn from my mistakes, people.
Yeah.
It doesn't usually work out when you just like, you don't process it.
I can't, sorry, I just can't even still picture West in a serious relationship.
I mean, he's never been in one.
Right?
I don't know because, like, I'm still trying to piece together this whole, the girl he was dating from Montana.
People have been sending me DMs and she's been posting sort of comments or reaction pictures online.
But I still don't understand the connection if they're saying that he cheated on her with Amanda.
I don't know if that's the connection they're trying to make.
I can't figure it out, but I just, oh, no.
I just, I can't stop thinking about how.
this is making Sierra feel.
And when she's like, you know, it's like,
I'm just the one that like the boys want to have fun with
and like not settle down with.
And it's like West wasn't ready to have a relationship with Sierra,
the full fucking package.
But he's ready to jump right in with his friend's misses.
If it was Ben, I would believe it.
I would have been like, okay, well, you could see a little flirtation with them.
But West?
And West laughed the hardest when he was just like,
I can't believe that, you know, they're saying like,
She's saying I want to fuck my maid's missus.
And West, I think he even laughed harder because, oh, God, I can't.
Because he wanted to fuck his maid's misses.
Uh-huh.
Or maybe it was already West.
We don't know the timeline yet.
We don't.
That's the thing.
What if it happened when she was still married?
I mean, they are still married.
Yeah.
They can't be divorced yet.
Yeah.
But, wow.
Okay.
Do we have anything else on that before we want to move on to some other topics?
I'm like stuck.
I know.
I'm so stuck.
I just.
Who do you?
think was the most blindsided by this news and this post specifically with their fucking
joint statement?
Well, blindsided none of them because I think all of them found out.
But I think the one that found out the information was the most shocked.
It was probably Carl only because I've never seen him post anything in relation to the drama
like in his stories in this way.
And the fact that he even posted something, I was like.
Wait, he did?
He just, he like, I think he posted like a like a picture like, you know, like.
I think he was in his stories, though.
Okay.
I might...
Wait, he just posted that?
No, it was yesterday when, like, I was all.
Yeah, he's on his way here right now.
Oh, is he?
Yeah, he has an event tonight.
I talked to him last night.
Oh, my gosh.
Like, I want to spill.
I want him to spill to you, like, when they found out, how they found out.
No, honestly, I'm going to be like, hey, so after that screening tonight, you want to grab a mocktail and chat?
And I'm going to find you, and I'm going to sit behind you incognito and listen in ear hustle.
No, literally.
I mean...
Yeah, because now I need all the information.
Yeah, absolutely.
I was just texting him because I was going to obviously ask,
but I'm like, hey, how are you?
Like, I haven't talked to in a couple weeks.
And then I sent him the invite for my birthday.
And then he responded and he was like,
hey, I'm actually boarding a flight right now to go to L.A., da-da.
So while he's out here, I am definitely going to try and see him.
Do it.
Oh, my gosh.
I feel like this episode needs to come out sooner than Friday.
Yeah, I know.
Get to editing now.
Okay. As the great Andy Cohen says, switching gears, I feel it's hard to talk about anything else.
But I did come across the story of this woman. She was just laughing about this at a good chuckle yesterday.
This woman who said her mom told her growing up that quefeing meant throwing up.
So her entire life, she believed quefe equaled vomiting.
My God.
I feel like, too, there are things that, you know, as a parent, where you don't tell your kid exactly what it means.
I can't even remember what it was that me or Brock or someone said in someone's like, what's that?
And I'm like, it's a cheese.
Yeah.
So, you know, if she just said that one tap and she just always thinks that.
Yeah.
But so one day she's out.
She sees a girl who looks like super nauseous and goes, oh my God, are you okay?
You look like you're about to queef.
The girl was probably like, excuse me?
Literally, excuse me?
Like, I feel like that is the moment your life splits into before and after, you know,
like before learning what queef means and after you learn what quefe means.
Yeah, exactly.
But needless to say, she learned the real definition of the word queef that day and what it meant in the most public humiliating way possible.
Oh, my God.
But honestly, like, now I've been thinking about how many times this girl could have used that term.
Yeah.
Even just thought it to herself.
You know, it's like, oh, my God, I drank so much last night.
I wanted to quefe the whole Uber ride home.
Yeah, exactly.
That's what I'm thinking, too.
Like, if you call into work and you know, it's like, if you call into work and you know, it's like, oh, my God, I drink so much.
you're just like, I need to call out today. I've been queefing all day.
Right. Like, oh my God, my mother-in-law is like, lasagna made me quefe.
It was like, excuse me? Yeah. And if you like, if you just say that to someone, you know,
like a bus driver, like, can you let me off? I have to quefe. I mean, they might be like,
that's, thank you for letting me know. That's actually appropriate.
No, I mean, like every time dad talk, you know, like pops up on your screen, you're like,
oh, this makes me want to quefe.
It's actually not a bad word for throwing up. I kind of wish quefing did me throw up.
of a cuter way to say barb.
Queef.
Quif.
I just have a little quif.
Yeah.
I'm always worried that when the small times that I do allow summer to watch YouTube,
because especially she likes to watch our vlogs, that's why I have a YouTube channel and I do the vlogs
are for her to watch and her memories.
But there are times where my channel automatically starts playing the podcast.
And I'm like, no, no, no, we can't.
She's like, no, mommy, I want to watch this.
I'm like, no.
Mommy, what's a queef?
Why are you talking about elf on the shelf?
What do you mean?
I'm like, unicorns are real.
Yeah, exactly.
No, my God.
But I'm like, okay, if this is like a little vertical that we make on YouTube,
I'm just going to make sure she doesn't.
I don't want my daughter growing up thinking,
queef means.
Yeah.
She'll be that girl.
I know.
She's in kindergarten.
She's like, teacher.
Yeah.
I have to que.
Yes.
Oh, my God.
It's like, you would definitely be called in, like, child services, be like, what is happening?
Oh, my.
God, I can't. I just, I saw that and I was literally laughing out loud, just reading this story.
And so while I was just looking at random things, this is one of my favorite random stories right now
because it's so petty. Is it petty with the purpose? I don't know, but it's just so real. So you
know how men, I'm sure, like, are you on the apps? I forget.
I am. Half and half. But it like says man's height. You know, like, men are always lying about how
tall they are. For sure. And it's like, when they say they're six foot, I'm like, so 5'10.
5-9, 5-10, exactly. You know, like, you're not really six-foot. Maybe with your shoe lifts or some
like quaffed hair, not queft. Yes, not quefed hair. So as of 2026, major league baseball basically
said enough line and started re-measuring players' heights using actual medical grade standards.
Oh. And why you might ask? Well, because this.
new automated strike zone system. So it needs exact players' heights to properly call balls
and strikes. Oh, okay. Which makes sense. Yeah. You know? So suddenly, over 200 players shrunk.
You know, it's like that osteoporosis really kicking in. Yeah. Yeah. Not physically shrunk,
but their official heights dropped. A hundred and seventy-one players lost one inch. And we know
every inch counts with the men.
Yeah, for sure.
48 players lost two inches
and six players lost
three inches.
I mean, three inches
is not like a rounding air. It's not 5-11.
I'm going to say six foot because it just looks better
to have a six instead of a five.
Like, I mean, that's a lifestyle lie.
But why are you lying
to your athletic team anyways?
Like, it doesn't even make sense.
I think for what's on your baseball card.
Yeah.
For what pops up on screen, for the girls you're trying to get, who watch your games.
Oh, my God.
Guys are so dumb.
So dumb.
Literally.
It's like what other inches you line about.
Exactly.
But Bo Nailer from the Cleveland Guardians, he went from six foot to exactly, like you said, 5'9.
Gavin Lux, Tampa Bay Rays, 6-2 to 5-11.
That's major.
All of these sixes, like Alex Freeland from the Dodgers, 6-2, also to 5-11.
Yeah. Connor Wong from the Red Sox, 6-1. He's actually 5-10. Austin Riley from the Atlanta Braves, 6-3. He's 6-1.
Why lie? You're 6-1. Like, that's above average. Why do you need a lie and say you're 6-3?
You're 6-1. I mean... Men lie to say they're 6-1 when they're really... I have 10, 5-11.
I'm 5-6, but I think I'm shrinking. I think I'm 5-5 and a half. I'm still going to say 5-6 till I die.
And I think I'm 5-4 and 3 quarters to be technical, but I'm like, I'm 5-5. I've always been 5-5 of brown eyes. It was a
a song and that is me. Yeah, girls only like lie like smidgen. Literally. It's not even like half
an inch. It's like, and with these shoes, I'm always wearing a shoe. We wore heels. Exactly.
Yes. But I mean, the MLB just literally accidentally exposed what's been going on on the dating
apps, driver's licenses, probably resumes for years. Yeah. And it's not just a little exaggeration.
It's like full on catfishing. It is full on catfishing. Even though I will say, I didn't realize you had
put your weight on your California license until I moved here because you didn't have to do that in New York.
I def. I mean, I full on went. Lied. Lied. I was like, this is the way when I finished my Zepout,
I'll be. Yeah. Do you think any of the men on the Valley lie about their height? Oh, yeah.
I mean, we know Jacks did. I mean, he's not there, but like it's just like when you have the scenes
where it's like Zach and Danny or Zach and Jesse. Jesse has to. I'm sure he does. You see the extreme
difference. When it's Jesse and Danny or like Jacks or whatever.
whatever, it's not that crazy.
Yeah.
But I think Zach is six, four?
Oh, okay.
I don't know.
He's tall.
Yeah.
But he doesn't lie about it.
But I just, I wonder how many people on TV are still wearing lips.
Have you been high catfish before?
I really.
You showed up to a date and the eyeline was like lower than you expected.
No, I don't think so, no.
Yeah.
I know Brock has worn his heels, you know, and people like to give him show.
for that, but I'm like, he's also not lying about his height.
Although he does say he's six foot, and I'm like, let's get you up on that wall.
Let's measure this.
When you had your long hair and you're like bun.
All right, we're going to get that MLB measurement and bring it over to your place.
I do feel like Brock is right at six foot, but then there's some days where I have really
tall heels on and I'm like, are you 5.11 and a half?
We'll go with six foot.
He's also just like so built.
Okay.
But I don't know.
I've never actually measured him.
I've only measured my daughter because we're just waiting to see.
Is she 42 inches?
And at Disneyland, there were a couple rides that were 42 and she got on.
But I know she's not 42 inches yet.
I had her heels in the stroller just in case we needed them because it gives her a full inch and a half.
There are the sparkly little gold heels.
It's like Disneyland, princesses everywhere, girls and dresses and heels.
That's hilarious.
I'm like, they're not going to be like, kid, take off your shoes and get measured.
You know, it's like, no, I'm not taking my shoes off in this dirty amusement part.
But I did learn that more rides there are 40 inches instead of 42 that I didn't know before.
So I was like, oh, we didn't even need the heels for cars.
I swore it was 42.
Anyway, okay, moving on, technology.
It's just humbling us all.
I mean, we've spent years worrying about how technology is going to reshape the future, you know, AI, taking jobs.
We've seen so many things with companies in the,
layoffs in all of this recently, robots taking over. But no one warned me about this. I do know
that when my daughter goes to school, she's going to be on an iPad. She's going to be learning using
AI and technology and whatnot because every tour we went on, they're like, no, we have to
incorporate that. That's the world we're going into, right? But I feel like technology is about
to start humbling all of us. It's like, are we headed towards a world where there's just, you know,
a device that can stand you and instantly pull up your real stats.
Height, weight, age, you know, no rounding up or on a good day, whatever, no angle is just the
truth.
Because, like, there's, have you been to the Intuit dome yet?
No.
So you don't have a ticket, you don't have anything scanned on your phone.
You have to take photos of yourself, upload it to the app before you get there.
No.
And you just walk in.
It's just facial recognition.
It's crazy.
I don't like that.
I have digital ID at the airport.
I have that too.
Which is nice.
But when I went to the Intuit,
at Dome, I was walking up and I was like, oh shit, I need to get like my ticket and it just
let you in?
Yeah.
And I'm like, well, if that's the case, we're all in trouble.
I'm already, I mean, you lied on your driver's license, you know, I, did I lie on my height?
I don't know.
Invalent, exactly.
They look like, you lie, bitch, you can't drive anymore.
But, you know, we joke about men lying about their height, but if technology starts coming
for women's ages and weights, I mean, what's next?
You know, that would feel targeted.
It would feel personal.
It would feel like misogyny.
It does.
Like, because, like, yeah, I mean, that's part of the reason.
I remember the reason I, one of the dating apps, I kind of stopped logging into
was because it wanted to be connected to my Facebook age, which I had been telling the truth.
And I was like, absolutely not.
No.
I can put whatever age I want in this out.
This is how I feel.
Have you ever been to, like, a club or a bar or whatever, when they scan your ID in the age
pops up and it's like this big. Oh my God. It exposed an old friend of mine once.
Rude. Yeah, she was lying about her age saying she was five years younger. And to like your closest
friends, why are you lying? Would never show us her driver's license, would never let us inside her
apartment. It was like, there were just some things that were a little off, right? But we literally
were at a bar one night and they're scanning our IDs. Oh my God. And it popped up five years older.
And I just like let it go and like didn't say anything.
But I was like, okay, you're lying about this.
What else you're lying about?
We've never been inside of your house.
Like that's weird.
Like I remember being eight months pregnant and I had to pee so bad.
And she would not let me in her house because she said her mom was worried about COVID.
And I had just COVID tested myself because I was worried about COVID.
And I'm like, I just have to pee like so bad.
She would not let me in her house because we had still been living in insane.
Diego at the time had a long drive home.
And I had to go, Pita gas station, super pregnant.
Was she a hoarder?
She might have been a hoarder.
I don't know.
We'll never know.
Probably a hoarder.
Crazy.
But also, I feel like if that did happen, millennials are absolutely not going down
without a fight.
You know, there would be apps within like 48 hours in a filter that just says like,
data unavailable when scanned.
Yes.
We would find a way.
Signing up for that one immediately.
Yes.
I mean, there would be like,
TikTok tutorials.
How to hack your biometric scanner.
So it thinks you're no emotionally stable
and have facial symmetry.
I love to.
My friend Maddie,
she's taken my photos before.
And her and I have the same good side.
So it's always like when it's our trio,
we're like, okay, well,
Christie's side is the right, thankfully.
I'll just go middle so Maddie can go left.
But I'm like, you do see like
that I have a good side, right?
And people are like, no, you don't, no, you don't.
And Maddie goes, I photographed you.
And yes, I have photographed you.
can tell. And I'm like, and yet I'm still giving you yours. And you know that I have one too. And she's
like, but look at my nose. And I was like, oh, now I see it. But it's not something I would notice.
But I'm like, my face photographs different. Oh, it's a fact. Yeah. I mean, I know that you would
permanently want to keep your age on lock. Like that's classified, never to be discussed.
No. Are you 48 or 22? We'll never know. Never know. And that's okay. Because you have the skin of being in
your 20s, and I'm sure you will for a very long time.
Trying.
You're very lucky.
Have you watched that age of attraction show?
I did.
What did you think?
I just was like, at first I was like interested, but like honestly, it became sort of a joke
because some of these women were just so young.
I don't even know what they, if they knew, know what a 50 or 60-year-old looks like.
So when they thought everyone was like, you're in your 40s, I'm like, that man is definitely
older than that.
And what I didn't like was like that one guy who, you know, that one guy who.
who was in his 40s,
and it seemed like he only dated 20-something years old.
There's just something about, like,
you never want to mature.
You just always want to have.
Like Nick Bile?
I mean, he's the one that created the show, right?
I did see they did get a second season renewal,
but I'm like, I'm just like, I just, there was too much,
it just got weird.
It was like guys with mommy issues, it seemed like,
and got in, like, girls that just didn't,
I don't know.
It was okay, but I just wasn't believing in either.
relationships. And I honestly just felt sorry for the women who were older because they were just
so insecure about it. And I didn't feel like, you know, the men were really reinforcing them,
making feel better and like, girl, just like live your life. Yeah. I don't know. Have you watched
Love Overboard? I love Love Overboard. Okay. My trainer just started watching that.
I was like filling me in on all of it. Like, it was fun. Thoughts on Brandy Glanville,
positioning herself for the Golden Bachelorette. I didn't. I'll say, self-professed,
Not positioning herself, propositioning.
Oh, propositioning yourself.
You know, I don't know if that, you know, look, it would be entertaining.
She is very entertaining on television.
I haven't seen her on television in a long time, so I don't know if that still holds up,
but I would try it.
I would watch an episode.
She's like, if Taylor Frankie Paul can be the Bachelorette, I can be the Golden Bachelorette.
Yeah, why not?
Go off, girl.
Get it.
There anything else that happened this week?
Because I just feel like that took over.
I know. I think that like anything that happened this week will get buried, which is like, it's weird, right? Because why do these stories? Why do certain stories just consume us so much? I don't know why, but they just do.
Yeah. Well, my flowers of the week are going to the one and only Sierra because she deserves them all. She deserves all the brand deals, all the love. I mean, she just, she does. She's such a good person who does not deserve to just keep.
being walked over and used and have shitty friends and exes and all of it.
Like, I hate that for her.
Yeah.
So she gets my flowers.
And I mean, the jacks hole has been made quite easy for us with those who have betrayed
their friends by hooking up with their exes.
Amanda, I never thought Amanda would be my jacks hole on this show.
I was sort of calling it Scamandival.
What do you think of that name?
Ooh.
Not no.
Okay.
Uh-huh.
But where's the West in it?
I know.
Mm-hmm.
This is the problem.
Damn.
Well, Raquel wasn't really in Scandival either.
True, actually.
It was just Tom Scandival.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
What did you say it was?
Scamandival.
Scamandival.
Because it's like the T-Moo, Scandival.
Oh, just crazy.
Crazy, crazy. Are you caught up on Housewives?
I'm all caught up. And yes, I watched Rhode Island. I did all, even, you know, that's coming out that
came out this week. Beverly Hills, question, because it's something that's been talked about in
my friend group. Do you think Bose is jealous of Amanda? I don't know if she's jealous of
Amanda, but I do think it's interesting that Amanda brings up that Bose did try to have a similar
online business that is not as successful. It got the same critique. Exactly. So what are your thoughts of
Amanda. I actually, that's the thing. Bowes really fumbled the ball because Amanda was making her more
liable. Came in as like the most easy to not like and now I'm like totally like on Amanda's side.
Yeah. All right. Well, thank you all for listening. Thank you Kiki for joining me in the studio today.
There was no one else I wanted to Kiki with about all of this scandal. So make sure to listen to Kiki
weekdays on Radio Andy's reality track and find her at The Talk of Shame for all of your pop culture
It's the only place I go to.
And, yeah, we'll be getting into some more shenanigans next week.
I don't know with who or about what.
I guess we'll just have to see what's in the news cycle.
But until then, happy spring break.
Happy Easter.
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