Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - Coach Seats & Couture Crimes w/ Chanel Ayan & Kiki Monique

Episode Date: September 18, 2026

Scheana is joined in the studio again this week by Kiki Monique, and she’s brought along the fabulous, funny & unfiltered Chanel Ayan! Chanel catches Scheana up on why her son may be flying coach indefinitely (& why Jesse from The Valley might be responsible for that), how only getting eight hours of sleep somehow qualifies as exhaustion in Chanel’s world, and what we should make of her dream that Scheana is pregnant with triplets. Then, the ladies break down the good, the bad and the truly baffling looks from the Emmys—who served, who got done dirty and who needs to part ways with their stylist. Along the way, they get into nipple-cover emergencies, merkins, Kathy Hilton not realizing she was live on television while presenting an award, and Chanel’s unforgettable introduction to Carole Radziwill—which got off on the wrong foot…or rather, leg. Things turn royal as Scheana, Kiki and Chanel unpack the latest surrounding Harry and Meghan, leaked parent-group messages and why Chanel would simply leave every school group chat. Finally, Scheana gives Chanel her flowers for using her platform to speak openly about surviving female genital mutilation, leading to a powerful conversation about shame, forgiveness and Chanel’s mission to help protect other girls from FGM. From fashion crimes and school-group politics to a conversation that truly matters, these ladies hold nothing back. Follow us: @scheana @scheananigans Co-Hosts: @thetalkofshame @chanelayan Purchase your very own copy of the NYT Best-selling book/audiobook MY GOOD SIDE at www.mygoodsidebook.com!Episode Sponsors:To get 15% off your first order go to REEF.com/GOODASGOLDGOLD or, use code GOODASGOLD at checkout.Ready to reach your goals? Visit forhers.com/shay to get personalized, affordable care that gets you. Right now, podcast listeners can save up to 48% off their first order at pendulumlife.com/GOODASGOLD.Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.Produced by Dear Media.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The following podcast is a dear media production. From Vanderpump Rules to Motherhood and everywhere in between. Warm up the kettle. It's time to spill some tea. Let's get into some shenanigans with Sheena Shea. All right. Welcome back for another week of shenanigans. I have two of my absolute favorite women across the media space and in real life, too.

With me in the studio today, you know her. You love her. She always knows the tea before the rest of us do. Kiki Monique back once again. And joining us as a woman who truly needs no introduction. She's fabulous, hilarious, always says exactly what she's thinking, lights up every carpet or catwalk she's on. And today, she's lighting up our couch all the way from Dubai, Chanel A.on, in the building. How we doing?

I'm doing great. So good to see you. And Kiki, too. I love when you come to L.A. I know. I feel like I live here right now. Right? I'm like, I just saw you a couple months ago for pride. Yes. Oh, that was such a good time.

That was so fun. I don't know if I told you what happened. What? Okay. So I was dancing on the table. My son was dancing with your husband, by the way. And your husband made my son feel so comfortable. He was wearing this pink top and pants. And he was just living his best life. And my son was just like, oh, my God, I just love how confident everyone is and stuff.

So I went on the table. And I was dancing with lesie. I did not Jesse was in the back dancing with me and going like this and so I'm focused on Lesi and of course I just love dancing with everyone and my son was pissed

he was so mad he was like how dare you dance with another man is that what you do when you're not around dad like how dare you he was so much I was like I didn't even notice like that's the problem you need to pay attention because you are a married woman you're my mother

how can you do that and I'm like who's dancing behind me, he's like, Jesse was like, but he's like all the way down here, so he didn't even see him. I know, exactly. So he was grinding on me. So my son, because of course he goes to college, so I bought him a

economy class ticket, and I graduated him to business class so he wouldn't tell his dad because he was threatening him, like, I can't wait to tell you dad, dad needs to know what you do when you're not around him. Oh my God. We got home, I upgraded his ticket. I thought he was going to be quiet, which is sad like I was buying my son off, but I gave

home, the first thing we opened the door Tudge goes, you need to know what your wife does in America. He was letting these guys to work on her. And he's like, I didn't see it. She saw it. And I was a snitch. Permanent coach for you. Coach forever.

I know. He just left me up. I know. So I'm like, I'm afraid of Jesse now. Yes, stay away. Right? Lacey was there with us too. Yes.

Yeah. Oh, that's so funny. It was a good time. We had so much fun. Brock lifted you up. Yes. Yeah. So much fun. So how are we doing today? We have a good morning. Yes. I just walk up. Fabulous. You just woke up. I woke up like that. No, seriously, I only slept to eight hours. I'm exhausted. I'm exhausted. Only eight. I think I get eight. That is incredible. You guys sleep under eight. I got like three hours of sleep last night. Oh my God. I get 10 to 12. What? Yes. Oh, my gosh. The other day I slept almost 20. Yes. Brandon or not? I went to bed at 4 p.m. I walk up like almost the next day at 6 a.m. I should probably take the advice of the woman that looks like this.

Right. No, I just love sleeping. I do too. It's my favorite thing. But my five-year-old loves waking up early. She's like, mom, I'm up before six today. Let's get up. Do you want to play a game?

Do you want to do that? I'm like, I would like for you to go back to sleep. I know. And we'll get up in an hour. You're going to miss those days. No, I don't have any of those days. They're so memorable and cherishable. Yeah.

Like I used to be annoyed. And now I'm just like, my house is so quiet. I would love to repeat that. Oh, totally. No, I do. I soak it all up. But when it's 5.49 in the morning and the sun isn't up yet, I'm like, can we just cuddle for like an hour and then get up? Yeah, guess who dreamt you were pregnant with triplets this morning? What? Me. Oh, hell no. I literally dream that you had triplets and you are pointing at me in your stomach that you have three pregnancies. Like you have a triplet. Have you been having a lot of sex?

No, actually. We have a gas stain with us right now. So it's kind of put a little mert. Yeah, but in my culture, it means like a lot of good things are coming your way. Hell yeah. Like good changes and big opportunity. Okay, not babies. Okay. That's what it means. pregnancy rarely means actual babies.

Both mean something else. Yes, maybe about the same. No, I pray that my IUD works. Like every year when I go back from my checkup, I'm like, is it still there? Are you sure? Because. Oh, you don't want to get pregnant? No.

Really? I'm 41. And I was already super high. I risk at 35. I got preeclampsia. I got help syndrome. So like I genuinely worry about my life. And I'm like, I can't risk Summer's mom's life to give her a sibling.

No, no, I get it. So we definitely are open to surrogate, to adoption. That's just a big cost also. Did you see today Lena Dunham announced that she had a daughter by surrogate? No. I was like, is that the funny girl? Yeah, from girls. I'm always like these other these women who I didn't expect to have kids who are now having kids

whether by surrogacy is like been so surprising because even what's the chick who was from Parks and Rec who Aubrey oh yeah like she had a bit like I just all these people I was like they're kind of having babies that I didn't expect them to yeah and I mean I definitely know I want to give summer a sibling but I also know that I just don't feel it yet yeah maybe it's just thinking about how much it costs for us. It's so expensive. You know, but I know that when it's the right time,

I'll feel it. And I think like an eight year age gap could be totally fine. My sister and I are 12 years apart and we're so close. So I'm like... My brother and I are 10 years apart. And like now... Not in between? No. Oh, okay. And like I feel like I was more of a second mom

than anything. But like there was also a boy. So it might also have been different. So, you know. My mom never made me like babysit or anything like that. She didn't want me to feel like that was my kid at 12. Oh, really? Oh, my mom made us babysit.

Cleaned, do everything, work for free. Like, oh, my mom was all there. Yeah. Yeah. It was great because at that. At that time, my mom was working from home. She was the apartment manager where we lived. So it was like her office was one of the rooms of our place.

Okay. So it was. great that I still got to go and live my life, but I had a little sister. That's so cute. And I think in a couple years, maybe summer I'll be ready for one. But right now, there are so many single kids, like only children in her class. So it's not like everyone has a sibling except her. Well, I just feel like I can imagine that that would be the norm because in addition to it just being so much more expensive, the activities that I hear my friends, kids having to go through, I'm like, they're like booked and busy every day.

I don't even know how you would do it with like, and she does have two. And that's why she is like, she has help because she can't do it on her own. It's very expensive to have kids. Yeah. One of Summer's friends, the mom has two younger than the five-year-old. And so we were all at the football game and it was just her and her husband with the three of them. And I'm like, how do you? I can't.

I only said if I had more than one, I would be in a mental institution. I swear, I'm not kidding you. because it was so hard just first to give birth already a job then you carry for nine months and then you have to breastfeed and then you have to feed

the baby make sure they are safe, loved it's a whole job and I remember I was the selfish auntie because like when you know my friends had one it was easy like we could still go to the bar and I know that's out but like you could and you have just one kid

they're hanging out you're having a good time two you can't there's like one's running around it's impossible I took my son everywhere to the bars to be everywhere. Like, we just traveled and he would go anywhere. I think if I had two, I don't think I would have the life I have.

No. And that's the thing. Like, I took summer to a little backyard adult party with me the other day. I was like, okay, on the way to your cousin's birthday, mommy's friends have a birthday. And so let her, you know, throw the ball for some beer pong. Yeah. Obviously, she's not drinking.

Yeah. As we should say that right now. It's so fun. I have the cutest photos. I actually want to pop a couple of those up Because she was just like, it was a disco country theme. So she had her pink sparkly boots on, her Jessie from Toy Story hat. And it was so cute.

She was the only kid there. But she's like, you know, just playing with us. I loved being, you know, because I was pretty much an only child kind of. Like, I loved being at the adult parties. Like, I feel like it, I don't know. I feel like it made me kind of a well, more well-rounded adult. Yeah. Yes, you become more mature.

Yeah. And you're more social. Like, you're not as shy. Like, because I can still have a tendency to like, But like you're forced to, right? Yeah. And then my friends, they are like early 30s, don't have kids yet. But they had a little kiddie pool filled up with like fishing, the little magnet things.

And then they had little water guns. You don't put water guns out if you don't want to be squirted. Summer finds the guns. Yeah. Exactly. Who brought the kid to the party? But I'm like, well, don't have water guns out if you don't want to be shot. So, but that was fun.

So anyway. So what did it take for you to be this fabulous this morning? This morning I woke up. I mean, can I just tell the audience the truth? You just gave me two socks because I forgot to put nipple cover. I was walking. My naples were all out. And I looked at my friend and I was like, oh, my God.

And you brought me socks. I'm literally wearing socks to cover my boobs. As much as I love my boobs out there, I don't think it's for America. It's more for my village people because I used to it, you know. Even though, did you see Nini at New York Fashion Week? Oh my gosh, she texted me. Oh, okay. Wait, no.

She goes, are you in New York? And I'm like, no. And then I see her pictures. I'm like, you know, I love when women are like that, you know? It's hot, it's sexy. She doesn't give her shit. She looks amazing. And I feel like we're in the world now where it's not like how I grew up where they're like,

when you're 40 or 50 as a woman, you should be giving up. No. Do you know what I mean? I love the women. She's like, oh, my people. Yeah. Yeah. And her boobs are all out.

I love that. She was pretty much wearing like a sheer top kind of like your sleeves. But nothing under. Nothing. Love that. I know. I just love women right now how we are in society and how we care about how we just don't give a shit. I love it too.

Yeah. I'm very much now free the nip. When if you watch season eight, I was very judgy about the nips out in the sur dress. What do you mean you were judgy? I just didn't understand why the girls would show up to work in their surdress without a bra on. So they can make a tip. Wow. If I walked in, sir, I will be completely naked 24-7.

I'd be like, tip, darling. I don't know how the waiters. If I was a waiter in America, I swear to God, I will do anything. My darling, you look fabulous. And I'll just boops up. And then they'll tip me. I'm sure I'll make a lot of teeth. It was probably because I needed a push-up bra to make the tips because I didn't have a lot going on.

Okay. So maybe I was just jealous. I don't know. But ever since having a baby, breastfeeding after that. I'm like, I hate wearing a bra. Well, I was, like, skeptical about the skim's brawl with the

nipples. Yeah. And then I went, they have basically a bra that has these fake nipples to make it look like pointy nipples. And I was like, who would want that? Well, my friend Cece, she was, we were in San Francisco. And I was like, oh, my God, you look great. And your tits look great. She's like, I'm wearing the skim. It actually made her boobs look

really good. And I was like, right. I didn't think I would like that, but I kind of like it. I go buy one. I'm not against the nipple bra. It was the Merkin. Oh, God. Well, that was sold out of. What's a machin?

It's like a thong, but it has hair. Fur for your crotch. And she sold out of that. Who bought it? And the Camel's shoes? I don't share my hair. Like, I'm lazy right now. No, I usually did laser, but I hate it.

It was painful. But naturally, I can just grow my hair. Why would I buy that? Yeah. I don't know. I think those are stands. Yeah, I think those were just stands. Because, like, why would you want?

I think it's a joke. And the camera. And the camera. She actually could buy. Remember? She had cameltoe shoes. Oh, God. I don't.

I don't think we have any of these things in Dubai. Camelto shoes. That might be a little too provocative for Dubai, I feel like. Yeah. That's why I didn't see it. Yeah. Yeah. No.

Skims isn't reaching that demographic. People are very interesting to buy that. Yeah. Yeah. And the fact that they sold out. I was like, this is crazy. Yeah. I think it's fetish.

Yeah. It has to be. Or you just like have it as a collection. to be like I bought the Merkin because it's going to be so random one day. Imagine if you wear that underwear. That's what I'm thinking right now in my mind. You wear that underwear.

And it's either you're queer or you're with a straight man or something and you come out with it. I would be like... No, straight men will never get that. They won't understand. Yeah. Yeah.

Anyway, I do want to talk some Emmys with you because I saw you were on the carpet. Yes. Before we get into that, we're going to take a little break so I can sip some tea and then let's spill it. Yes. Okay.

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So I didn't know most of the people there. But when people walked in like celebrities, people were really excited to see them. But most of them I really didn't know. So I really just spent time with the housewives. I was with Kathy Hilton, Dorrit, what's her name? Boz. Kyle, Kyle and Dorrit are getting along. Really?

Ooh. I know. I know. They are getting along. They were happy with each other. It was actually good to see. I love that. It was really good to see.

I was like, wow, got a lot of tea. So they're doing, they're being friends, which is good to see. I think it has a lot to do with the fact that they have such a fun cast. When you have a fun cast, you don't want to be fighting. You want to go have fun with your cast, you know? And they've been friends forever. So I really love seeing them being friends. Like, I really like that.

I love that. Okay. So I just spent a lot of time with them. And then Kathy Hilton gave me the best compliment I think I've ever. I mean, I get compliments, but this is Kathy Hilton. Right. You know, like she doesn't speak like that. Yeah.

She talks to me and she goes, you are the most beautiful woman I've ever seen. She goes, not only that, I just love you in your heart, but we did something together, me and her presenting, but she didn't know it was going to be on air. So she goes, did you know we were going to be on air? And I was like, Kathy, we were on stage, recorded. Of course we're going to be on air.

She goes, I did not know. I'm in the teleprompter right there. Like I just love who she is. I think she just was going to show up to the party and thought she was just presenting to the room. We were presenting for boss. Like best, like it was a big deal, you know, for Jason Lee event.

And it was published. And she's like, did you know? And I'm like, yes, Kathy, I knew. But it was so funny because I just love who she is as a party. She's like hilarious. She's funny. In that Paris Hilton reality show, when she came in, she like thought she was drinking just like a seltzer.

But it was like a hard seltzer. Like she's just like, yeah. I think it's caffeinated. She really is how you see her on TV. Yeah. Yeah. Which is so beautiful. Like she's funny as else. I just spend a lot of time with her.

And I really had a good time. So I just honestly was with the girls more than like I was socializing much. Yeah. I sat by her at BravoCon for the Christmas show that we did. Was that last year or the year before? Whenever it was. But just sitting next to her and getting her commentary and her asking me like, who is that? I know.

What am I? doing here? What's next? I know. She is the cutest. Oh, fantastic. So that's what I did. I just hang out with everybody. Yeah. Okay. I love it. Well, I feel like we have to get some of your takes from

the looks because there were some crazy ones, some gorgeous ones. I just want to know, like, who are your favorites? Who were you side-eyeing? Who could have done better? Okay. So I'm going to pull up some looks as well because I just, I want to hear your thoughts and your all things fabulous. Yes.

Let's go. Okay. All right. So, first one, we've got Louisa Jacobson, Merrill Streep's daughter, wearing Tom Ford by Hyder Ackerman, sleek, sexy, men's wear. I like that it's like an oversized tucks, you know, nothing underneath. It's sexy. It's sleek.

It's not too try hard. It's not like, I need this. big gown to get attention. What do we think about this luck? I personally first love her mother. Yeah. Fabulous lady. But she looks very sexy. I think it's beautiful.

I would honestly wear this. Yeah. She pull it so well. I like the black and white. She looks chic, the hair in the back. I would wear that. Yeah. It's gorgeous.

I think my goal one day is to be able to wear men's wear, but I feel like only very slim bodies can do it. Otherwise, I just look like a big old bunch walking around. I think you would look fabulous. in it. I don't know. I love it. Yeah. I would wear that. That is the one thing I do love about not having any boobs is that I can do like a plunging thing and not worry about that. So I'm like it's one benefit for a small. She's stunning. Boob girl. Gorgeous. Gorgeous. Love it. Okay. So one of my personal favorites, Selena Gomez. Yes. She just looks like an award. Absolutely gorgeous.

It's beautiful. Louis Vuitton. That's Louis Vuitton. The gold star. Yeah. Did you love that like every caption was like, good is gold? Celina's good as gold. Well, and you know Selena watches the show. Oh, does she?

They all watch the shows. Yeah. So, I mean, I'm not going to say it's Gina inspired, but I feel like Gina inspired. Gold is good. It's just, it's beautiful. She looks amazing. Looks like a trophy. I love the hair.

It's short. I love how she's posing. All the way gold is stunning. I would wear something like that. Yeah. I love one. things like that. And I like that the hair make, it's just like simple.

Yes. You know, it's not like a crazy updo or anything. Like the dress was enough that she didn't have to do anything else. Exactly. Mm-hmm. Okay. Then we've got Cheryl Lee Ralph. Full glamour in like a camouflage inspired print, which I also love.

I love anything like camo or leopard or anything like that. I'm so blind. I can't see it. Do you mind? I swear. Like I need to see closer. Oh, I would wear that. Yeah, right?

It's very pretty. I like it. I mean, because there's Cammo with the Emmys is obviously a choice, but it's a choice. I would have done hair up for her. Well, you know, that's the thing, though, because I think she's like in her late,

late 50s maybe or something. What? Just the fact that she is that age. And sometimes, like, when she wears her hair up, it could go very avid elementary and then she looks older, whereas I think it almost like, she can be still so youthful looking.

Wow, she's still. Stunning. Yeah. Stunning. Yeah. When I saw that, I loved that one. Yeah, she looks good. She looks good.

That was another one of my face. All right. And then, okay, see, and I'm going to be honest. I don't watch a lot of these shows, so I don't know. Me too. Also, who a lot of people are, and I may say their name's name. I apologize. But I owe Edebari.

Edibiri. Edibiri. I. Edebiri. Okay. Okay. Custom Chanel. What do we think? Got a big red bow on the back.

I have to see. I like her, but I'm not a fan of that. She's pretty, but the dress, the dress is Chanel. It is Chanel. Like Chanel Chanel Chanel. Chanel. Like Vio Chanel. Oh.

No. No, she's a beautiful. Is that denim? I don't know. It's not denim. It's just like that like cornflower blue. Which is one of my least favorite colors ever unless it is denim. She's very beautiful.

She's very beautiful. But to be honest, I don't want. want to be rude, I don't like it, especially if it's Chanel. It looks like something you can just throw yourself in a... And it's like she's a Superman cape attached to the back. Yeah, I know. But beautiful girl. Maybe if it was daytime Emmys or something, I don't know.

But... It's more like a cocktail party. Yeah. Like a lunch in the beach or something. It's not Emmys. I wear bigger coutures and I go to coffee. So I expect more from Chanel. Like, seriously.

Shelly Chanel did a daddy I don't like it Yeah Beautiful girl though Bad Fabric Bad Fabric Beautiful girl

Bad Fabric Yeah I mean It's got a bow in the front And the back Oh too much going on Too many bows Too many boys I love a bow

But yeah It's too much going on Pick one Yeah Yeah Okay Next Carrie Mulligan

From the row In a cobalt blue I have to see Sorry It looks just like It's not tailored. Like, it looks funky.

Yeah, that dress was not made. Yeah. In a, in a tailoring place. Like, it doesn't even look even on the top near her. Yeah. The silhouette is not there. It's not shaping her. Beautiful.

Oh, I like her. I love her. Yeah. Nice arms. But no, this is like a curtain. It's like somebody took a curtain and just wrapped it around and say, go to the Emmy. Yeah.

Like, that is terrible decision. It's so bad. Like, look here. Honestly. Yeah. It doesn't even fit her. She's a beautiful girl. Yeah.

No, they did her dirty. You have to be careful with these stylists. Sometimes they're jealous. Right. Because why would you dress me like that on an Emmy? What is the reason? What's the point of that? It looks like IKEA curtain.

Absolutely not. Who made it? That one? Oh, okay. Mary Kate and Ashley. Oh, I like them. The twin little girls. I love them.

Oh, I love them. But why did you do this girl like this? I didn't know they were doing girls. I love Mary Kate and Ashley from that full house show. pretty girls yeah I literally did a dachi

yesterday I used a gif of one of them as like a kid doing like a funny little dance that's so funny I did not know they I could never tell the difference between the two of them

maybe that's what they couldn't When they get a little older you could Yeah All right then we've got Carrie Coon and Mariska I never know what to say

Is it Hargate? Yeah Yeah I love her Law and Order I mean she can do no wrong. I think she looks absolutely stunning. I'm good at faces that name. Oh, that girl is good. She can find people that kill you. Yes. She's very, she's very good at a job. Yes. Yeah.

That's how I've learned out to not to be, uh, to go to jail. It's from her. She looks like she's dressed from the show. What's the show? Is that a funeral? No, like the oldie time show that she's from. Oh. That's, Gildedade. Like she looks like she's, my favorite show ever. But she looks like like she's at a funeral in the Gilded Age. Oh yeah, I know. Why would she wear that? She looks amazing in Ging. Was she nominated for the Gilded Age?

Like was she like, was this like a... I don't know. That looks like she's going to pray in the mountain to find Jesus. That's why I would wear. Up in the mountain, in the middle of nowhere, being like, God find me. That is not for the red carpet. Yeah. But I do like on Gilded Age.

It's one of my favorite shows. Great show. Great shows. I heard of say, though, Mariska. I feel like she showed up. Looking like she came to host the Emmys, win the Emmys, present herself with an Emmy. She's that red. I love a lot of the details.

She's bringing out her mom, Jane Mansfield, very, like, yes, bombshell. Love it. That was one of my favorites. Yeah, Jane Mansfield. She was the, like, a bombshell in, like, the 50s. And then she was the reason why semi-trucks now have what they call the Mansfield bar because they were driving down the road and they got in a car accident. Like, her mom got decapitated.

Mariska was in the car when that happened and survived. What? Yes. She was just a baby. Oh my God. Yeah. Oh my God. There's like a documentary or something.

Yeah. And Mariska, she was, she participated. I think she, I don't know she produced it, but she participated in it. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Oh. And she won the Emmy for that documentary. Oh, that's funny.

And she was the host of them. That's amazing. Yeah. I mean, literally like she just, like I'm proud of her, but that's really hard for a child. I can't even imagine. I cannot imagine. Oh, she was so beautiful too. Okay. Now, you guys, Meg Stalter. Oh my God. I love her. She can do no wrong ever. What is this? I love Meg. I met her. I met her and she's hilarious. Like, like, I don't care if she wears a cup in. Yeah. I'm going to support her. Like, I don't know how she came up with this idea of the gold look. Would I have won it

pull it off? No, but she pulled it off very well. It's giving an Emmy statue had like a one-night stand with a Victoria's Secret Angel. That's true. I love it. I love it. I love it. And like every time she's like in every shot when they're like panty in the room and she's just there. Like I just I love that. She knows how to steal a moment. She does. It's like she's like what I aspire. Like I would love to be that kind of comedic actress where it's just like. Yeah. She didn't give her shit. She just loves herself and just does what's best for her. And I admire that. Yeah. I respect the commitment to the bit for sure. That took hours to do it. Oh, God. That took hours. Right. Yeah. Painted gold to carry that. That thing is heavy because I used to model. So I know that whatever she's cutting in her back is not going to be easy for her.

The worst part is though, like the after parties, right? Because then if you have to wear that the entire after party, it's like then you start feeling like, but I don't think she would care. I think she would. No, she would. I would love it. She loves attention of Merah. And she looks good in attention. Yeah. I support her. I aspire to be her. Yeah.

A kind of a little bit the same, so I should not lie. We all laugh, but you know what I mean. She's good. Okay, another one of my personal faves, Sarah Pigeon and Chanel, but this, like, lilac color. You know, like, not a lot, she doesn't have a lot of cleavage and just how it drapes. That's pretty. I love it. very delicate, very 90s.

I feel like I can't see her anything else than Carolyn Beset after Love Story. Yeah. She just like embraces that. It's so good. Who's Carol Bessette? JFK Jr's wife, the ones that died in the plane crash. Oh. So she did a show about her.

Yeah, they did a love story. It was a Ryan Murphy like series that they did on their life together up until when they passed away. Oh, wow. Which, you know, Carol Radzwell was married to JFK Jr.'s cousin. So she was. Carolyn Beset's. They got from New York. Yeah. Housewife?

Mm-hmm. She was like good friends with Carolyn Beset. Wow. And then that's why her show, like her book that she wrote 20 years ago after her husband died, ended up back on the New York Times bestseller list 20 years later. After Love Story, people got really interested in her book. Wow. Wow. I met her. I met her in New York recently. Yeah. I met her. I saw her at the, I went to the Roney Hampton's premiere party. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I saw that. Yeah. I saw her and I keep saying this story because it's the funniest shit I think I was tired from Dubai. I flew into New York to film the girl strip. And of course they put you in a room in the kind of the girls and she was sitting next to me. So everyone was introducing themselves because I didn't know who she was. And she was like, I'm from New York.

Immediately in my head, I thought she's the woman that doesn't have legs. So I sit here and I go to her. Oh my God, nice to meet you. How's your legs? She goes, what do you mean? I'm like, because how is your leg? Like, do you have a nice leg? Like, how can you walk? Like, she goes, she looks at me. She's like, I have legs. I'm like, do you have legs? Like, do you have a new leg? Like, we're having conversation about leg the whole time? She goes, I have legs. And I'm like, yeah, but is it new? Like, is it like revubish? And she goes, I have legs. And she probably thought I was psychotic because I thought she's the woman that threw the legs of the ground. But it's not her. She actually has her legs. And she keeps saying, I have legs. And I have legs. And I'm But do you have legs?

But are they real? Yeah. I was thinking, is it real legs? Because I, because, you know, like, I don't watch the shows that much, right? So you can get these clips of housework that's iconic sometimes online. So I saw this woman throwing the leg. And I thought it was her. She was not happy with me because I kept on saying, girl, do you have legs or not?

In the end of the night, she goes, I have legs. I'm like, okay, girl. Did she show you her legs? No, but I thought she was mad at me because she really doesn't want to talk about her legs. And I wanted to know how she walks with the legs. That was my first encounter with her. First and last? Yeah.

She was just like, are you serious? You're like, yes. And Camille, Camille, grandma was there. She goes, she has legs. Why is Camille looking? Camille was like having, trying to educate me. She has legs. I love Camille.

Did you want to say, Camille? Yeah, I can't. You know. What did Carl say about Camille? That was fun. It was like a common line. I saw them use the other day at Girlstrip because I'm watching Girlstrip. Camille leave or something.

I don't know. But that was Doreet called Camille that, right? Yes, Dorit called her a cunt. Yeah. And then what did Kyle say? I like, I like Camille. Goodbye, Kyle. Yeah.

Yeah, goodbye, Kyle. Yeah, good bye, Kyle. Okay. Have we seen practical magic too? No, I'm going this weekend. It was so good. It just made me fall in love with Nicole Kidman all over again. So she's up next.

Gorgeous. Oh, she never disappoints. She always. She doesn't disappoint at all. It's not my favorite. I think that it's the length because for me I'm like, I either wanted to hit the ground or I want it to be. Yeah.

Yeah. The ankle length is weird. I never like anything. If it's like right below the knee, okay, maybe. I like that. That's like a sexy. But the men calf. I like it because I find it's like classy.

It's her. You know, she always wear stuff like these. But she never edges. I love that. I don't know what she drinks. I don't know what you guys have in a leg. Literally, you guys, in the movie, like really?

There was a part where I was like, wait, is this from the first movie? Or does she just look this young and this good still? Yeah. Is she a real witch? Whoever is working on her face is doing a good job. Because it's so natural. I think everything is just perfection.

And she should gate keep them. It's L.A. I don't know why you guys drink here, but people here don't age. It's like vampires, I feel. Well, there's vampire facials. There's photo. Oh, yeah, but I'm talking about the little vampire that sucks your blood. To survive, you know.

No, she looks good. Yeah, but I love the hair, too. Just kind of like the messy. It's classic. Updou. She's also in Chanel. Who's the other girl? She's pretty.

Emmy Rossam. Emmy Rossum looks amazing. Yeah. That is absolutely a look I love. She's in a new. new show that just came out oh god I can't remember the name it's on Hulu Furious

it's a new show called Furious which is really really good we know her from shameless originally which was this like very long running showtime series where you know it was a dysfunctional family but this yeah yeah she's very pretty gorgeous I like the love everything

the curls the hair the yeah like beautiful outweather yeah and then I'd wear that to my enemies of mine The fanning sisters. Ellen Dakota. They can do no wrong for me. These girls are pretty.

Like I still see her as the five-year-old girl that was in Mexico in that movie with Denzel Washington. Oh, yeah. I just love her. I have both of these looks. I'd wear both of these looks. I love them.

Yeah. Yeah. The black and white one actually reminds me of like my prom dresses. Yeah. It's pretty. That one is. The only one I didn't like

is Carolina Herrera. is what she's wearing. The girl, the girl who had like purple gloves, that's pretty. Mm-hmm. That's pretty.

Mm-hmm. Ralph Lauren. Classic. They have like Ralph Lauren. Yeah. Gorge, gorge. They're just such a cute little sister duo.

I love them. I think we can all probably agree that this is one of the looks that stole the night, Zendaya. Oh my God. I mean. I mean, I love,

but I feel like Lo, Lo, but I feel like, did you see my dress? For the event I did, I cannot pronounce the event, please don't make, make sure I say it right. Las Culturus. Oh, yeah. Las Culturistas. Okay, let me repeat.

The event, Las Culturistas. I feel like I was wearing silver skirt and a top. I feel like my look matches her. So maybe I feel like I was a father, but I love this look on her. She never, ever disappoints. She's a beautiful girl. Like, oh. And like, you saw law on the carpet.

straightening out her train. Like, he always makes sure she looks perfect. When he says he's a big brother to her, he really means it. Yeah. And not everyone can't... Because we are friends. Lord, did you watch mine to see this way? But, like, not everyone can pull off a pexy cut.

No. Very few people... I love it. I love it. She looks good on anything. How did she feel about, like, some of the photographers yelling at her, Mrs. Holland, Mrs. Holland, just to try to get her attention.

Yeah. Did they get at it? I mean, I'm sure it. gave her attention, but I was kind of like, I don't know. First of all, she's a one-name woman. Yeah, you don't need to call somebody. She doesn't even need a last name. And so, like, to throw that last name on her was kind of weird, right?

Are they trying to be respectful? I think they were. I think they were trying to be cute, but it was also just kind of like... Call her name, Zendaya. Yeah. But also, it could be, like, cute because, like, she's married. That's her name now. But also, I understand you being like, everybody knows her husband. You don't need her husband.

Right. Also, you know, so I understand both sides. Now, did you, do you? You know the whole like rumor that like, okay, at New York Fashion Week, Law and Chloe Sevenier were at the same fashion show. I don't know which fashion show it was. And they were seated opposite. And people were in the comments were like, ooh, they hate each other. And I was trying to read through and supposedly.

Chloe Sevenie, she's like, you know, big 90s icon from kids. And like she's always just been like a fashion girl. I'm not traumatized. Oh, traumatized. Yeah. Why was it ever made? Because, I mean, you know. Fucked up.

So I hang out with law a lot. Yeah. And we talk a lot. I would say. something like Lord literally lives his life the way he lives his life. Okay. Like honestly, he doesn't pay attention to nobody because I've seen it. He's very kind to people.

Like when I'm with him in Paris, people would come take pictures. He would stand up. He will take as much pictures as you want. He's never like rude or anything. So I don't think it would be anything. Well, I think she's like supposedly she said he didn't, she didn't think he was a great stylist or something like that. Of course.

I don't know. I don't know if that's true. That's just what the comment section said. If he said that, I would understand. Why Lowe would not want to sit next door. But Law, you know what? I actually was a great start. I was the bartender on Watch What Happens Live for the first time with Porsche and Law.

Really? Yes. And I was like, like, and they came out every break and they were just both Porsche and brushing his hair. And I was like, oh. And I'm just sitting there like sweating drinking my tequila. I, I've never been jealous of somebody's weeds. I'm like nobody is powdering my face.

I've never been jealous about anybody weeks until you see next to law. Oh my God. You just look like the best. That's like a $6,000 wig. It's a hair. Uh-huh. You know, like, yeah, it's $6,000 for sure. Not a thousand dollars.

You can see the difference. That's why from law it looks like, he'll be like, it's my hair. I know. He would never say, okay, no, we know it's your hair. It's not a wig. Okay, we have to talk about Shailene Woodley and the Valenciaga. She wore Balenciaga.

What is happening? I don't. happening. I feel like honestly, personally, I would wear that look if it was high-wasted. Okay. I feel like it's because it's low-wasted. So it just doesn't make sense because the top is big here. But can we talk about, I saw some guy saying that he asked her to be engaged to her. And she said that I want to sleep with somebody before I marry you. Fucking love her. Erin Rogers, which like, who is he? He's like a quarterback. ex-football player.

He's not even thinking... I mean, is he? Yeah. I thought he was like injured immediately. Is it like the... Oh, is he on the Steelers? Okay, okay, so he still plays. Is it the one that they throw the balls in your chest?

Yes, correct. Yes, I know that one. I know that game. I've watched it. And I thought it was weird when they were together because it was like he was like this quarterback guy and she was, you know, this kind of earthy actress. Like I felt... But yeah, I mean, if she did say to him, I want to sleep with other people for her, we get

married, I actually like like her even more. I respect her because imagine a lot of people that get into marriages and then they didn't, like I got married at 18, right? I'm happy like I'm not a very sexual person so I'm perfectly fine. But like other people, if you're not married, you get married so young. You haven't really

tried every flavor. So I like that she said, let me try this. Then I'll come. I have a feeling she's tried a lot of flavors. It just makes me think that his flavor wasn't so great and that she maybe was like, if I'm going to get married to flavor no no I love I feel like everybody should be like her there should be rules like that like

hey you want to get married no problem before I commit to you for the rest of my life it's very hard choice to commit somebody for the rest of them and I'm happily married yeah because you have to deal with them when they snow when they fart when they pee when they leave the clothes on the ground like it's a lot to give yourself as a yeah and then also carry babies for them deal with their mother-in-laws it's good I every woman should be like I'm gonna go through it and then I'll come back to you. And men should be like, perfectly fine.

Yeah, because they do it. They do it. Yeah. I've done it twice. It's both the ways. You know, I love that for that. I don't like the look. I think it was too much going on.

I mean, it's like the rainbow necklace, the gloves. It just, it was like. Well, the blue top with the red gloves and then, yeah. It's not a fan. But beautiful girl. You know what I am a fan of? Yeah. These gorgeous women who were on Bravo.

Well, Sierra still is. There's nothing she can do wrong. I know Sierra. This dress, it was Mark Bauer, and it was Whitney Houston's. Yes, dress. So I know Mark Bauer as a designer. He's amazing. He used to dress Whitney Houston so much.

She looks incredible. So he made her the dress exactly the Whitney wore on the Emmys. Wow. To wear it a lot of movies. I thought that was pretty cool. That's awesome. Incredible. I mean, she can also do no wrong.

She looks beautiful. And Lisa Rena, I love her now. I can't, I just want to go through her archive, like whatever the archive of clothes that she has. I can't even imagine whatsoever. I also told me where she gets a lot of her stuff from and I have gone. Yeah. Oh, cool stuff from there. Okay.

I'm like, okay. She is, I love Raina for just leaving the housewives and just like literally doing everything she's doing as a bad beach. You know, not to want to say at her age, please remove that because women can look good at any of the one. But I'm just saying like she looks good. Yeah. Like she's modeling. She's, her daughters are singing. I saw her at the party that I was in.

She was there with Harry and I've never met him. So I was really excited to me because everybody knows Harry Hamley. Don't talk about my husband. You know, like, so I can see they were so close. They were together admiring each other. I just really loved seeing them together. Yeah. And they look so good together.

Did you read her book? It was really good. It was so good. I listened to the audio book. And I mean, I've always loved her. But I just had. such a newfound respect for her and just everything she has accomplished

at this stage in her career, post-housewives, is so inspiring. And this dress is stunning. I want to wear that. The legs. She looks so good. So good. The Bravo girls looked amazing.

Yes. Yes. All right, there are a couple other hot topics I want to get into. I just wanted to get through all of those looks. I had some of the guys, but we don't need to talk about them. So, all right, quick water break, BRB.

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Okay, so we've spoken a bit about Harry and Megan, moving back to the UK, but this morning I saw, they've now had to pull their kids out of their new school because of security concerns. Oh, really? So I don't know if this was a part of those security concerns or if these are two separate things, like completely, but apparently Megan had been added to a WhatsApp group chat. And I assume with the other parents in Archie's class, she sends this totally normal message, introducing herself saying, hi, moms, thanks for the warm welcome.

So happy to be a part of this community. And then apparently, one of the moms took. screenshots from the group and leaked them to the press. Including the phone number she was using. That's nasty. That's nasty. Right? That's crazy.

That's crazy. Especially she lives in the UK. I'm sorry. I actually when she got married, I was in the UK when she got married. Like I wasn't in the wedding, but you know how they close the stuff and things like that. She's so hated in the UK. It is crazy. As a black woman, I feel like that's crazy.

Yeah. Whatever she does is too scrutiny. into this and to that. And it's like, that's so crazy. I love her. And I don't understand why she gets all the hate that she gets for no reason. She's never done anything wrong to anybody. Yeah.

She's just a good wife. The husband, I mean, if you watch royal stuff, you will understand why they want in space. Like, you know what I mean? Like, it's a lot. Even us, for example, three of us. We're in the media, in social people. Yeah. It can, like, we're not them.

And it can get a lot. Yeah. It can get a lot for. you for me or for you when you meet people. So imagine them every single day over and over. If she even does a jump, oh, she thinks she makes better jump. She thinks this. Like, it's such...

I don't understand. Like, I love her. She's a great mom. Yeah. That was so nasty. That was really nasty. And especially knowing what they know about her, Princess Diana. Like, why would you want to put his wife in danger knowing his history? Like, that's crazy.

Like, was that a paycheck? Like, what did you get from that? And then the son runs a headline saying, Megan leaked her own personal number. Oh, my. Why would she do that? Do you see, I just say that. Exactly.

I just say that. They do, the media in UK is, I would honestly say this and you can, I don't care. I think they're racist towards that girl. Because they really bully her so much. It doesn't make any sense to me. Why would she leak her own number? Right.

Like, why? And how would she leak it? Because if she leaked it, somebody would, can you imagine Megan leaking it? They will literally show her leaking it. Yes. So it can go more viral that she leaked it. Yeah.

It's like she gave it to her parents in her son's class. Like I'm in a group child. I was asked if I wanted to be a part of it. And they're like, just so you know, there's like 65 families in it. And I'm like, I don't care. Like, I want to be up to date with school stuff. I would not have known that I was supposed to bring my daughter to one of the, it was like orientation.

I knew it was just for the parents. Yeah. But we're supposed to drop off the kids in class for the hour while we go to orientation. I would have had no idea had I not been in the group chat. So it's like there are certain things. You know, it's like reminder, picture day, this and that. Like, I want to be in the group chat. Do you think, like, I'm curious because like, do you think that Megan, I would assume that

Megan would have like a nanny or assistant who that would be who would be communicating mostly through instead of her actual personal number? So do you think that that was actually her actual number? I mean, as a mom with a young kid in school, it's my number. Okay. There, as room mom last year at preschool, there was a very rich, wealthy dad. We never saw him. We saw his husband.

Never saw him. He was not in the group chat. But the other husband and their nanny was in the group chat. Okay. So it's one thing if there's like a parent and a nanny, but to just have a nanny represent, I don't know. I feel like as a parent, at least me personally, I want to be person. personally involved, not like, hey, nanny, what was the group chat today? I think I just realized I was a terrible, terrible mother in the group chart.

Wait, what? When my son was in school, I left those groups. Every time they added me, I left. Because they will be like, the kid doesn't eat peanuts. The kid does, I don't know. I wouldn't bring food because I'm scared. Because there was so much list of the classes of what kids can do, what can do. And then the parents were always having conversations and stuff.

So I just go bored. I always left. Then my son would be like, you're supposed to do this. I'm like, I would show up for the things I need to show up to. But I just didn't feel like I needed to be communicating with the parents 24-7. You know what I mean? So maybe that's what Megan should do because her volunteering to be there to get to know the mothers.

I think that's a huge betrayal for one of them to like literally do that to her. Like that's what I'm so confused by because oftentimes, look, we want to be in higher levels of society so that we can have a little more privacy, right? And why wouldn't you want to build a relationship with someone who's connected to the royals instead of like leaking it to the press? It doesn't make sense. And so I'm like curious because like obviously you running these circles too. Like I assume once you make it to a certain level everyone trusts each other that we're not going to be screenshoting and doing this sorts of things. Right? And like the people I'm not going to say who, but like the celebrities who I see on campus at summer school.

Yeah. Like no one's going up, no one's bothering them. It's just like a respect thing. It's a safe space. We have security everywhere. They're behind a gate. You have to scan a thing to get in. But it's just like, you just know.

It's not like. But now for her now, if I was in her position, now I wouldn't even take the kids to get to know my kids. Because you don't know if they come over to your house. The one of them, because you don't know who leaked it. We'll take a picture. We'll send to the news. now she's just like, like, that's just such a betrayal of a young mother to deal with instead of you guys like uplifting her and being like that's nasty. So nasty.

Yeah. They always say many, many bad things about her. I never understand. I never understand. God has never done anything to anyone. Just protect our family. Yeah. Yeah.

I was like, her wedding was the greatest day ever. I was like there is a black princess baby. I was like this is a holiday. He was amazing. Yeah. But also, you know, I love watching history. Do you know there's always been black princesses in that royal family?

They just cut out the whole story. That's messed up. I know. They've cut all of it. The Moors. If you really Google, there's people called the Moors. They used to be the rich people that came in.

So there were princess before Megan that were black. Well, I guess that's kind of what Bridgeton is sort of, you know, like the queen and Bridgeton. Yes, yes. And they cut all that history out. So they were like, Megan is the first black princess. Megan is, but it's not. Like, they were a lot of Africans that came in the malls with so much money. They educated them.

Show them how to shower. How to do things. And they cut all the stories out. So they're trying to make it like, she's the first one. But she's not the first one. And I just, I don't understand like with this world where it's like, why are we still caring about skin color and passing that there? Yeah.

Yeah. You know, look at the babies. Black is beautiful. I know. They're so. Oh, yes. The little redheads and just so cute. So cute.

So cute. I am wondering, like, now that we're seeing all of this startup again, like almost immediately after they moved back, do we think they regret moving back? Because I swear, I do not think that happens here at the L.A. private schools. We respect our celebrities. But I also think personally, I don't know any reason, but I also think there was a, I think that maybe there could be health issues, that maybe they want to be closer to their family. I think maybe they know, I think maybe they know things.

we don't know. Maybe they want the kids to get to know each other. I think so. They live so far away like the cousins and stuff. Because if I was her, I wouldn't move back in a place that I'm that bullied, you know, and like broken into pieces. She's a strong girl. Yeah. You know, like so yeah,

maybe you're right. Maybe it could be family stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Or cousin get to know each other and things like that. Yeah. Because the UK weather is really ridiculous. She would rather be in L.A. Right? Yeah. Oh, well. Sending them love. Yeah. Yeah. It's just so unfortunate when it's like such a breach of trust and privacy and also like the mother went through so

much princess diana at this point is like we should just respect the kids and show them love and not treat them the same way they did the yeah they did princess diana i didn't even know who she was i just remember her dying and my mom was crying you know and now i of course i know who she is how she came to africa how she's like people were scared of sitting with people with AIDS she would like hold the babies like she was a queen like treat the kids with respect instead of like, you know, putting them through what the mother went through. I don't understand it. Yeah.

Well, to wrap up the episode, we always do Flowers of the Week. Yes. And I actually want to give my Flowers of the Week to you. Oh, thank you. Specifically for the advocacy you've done for women and girls, you know, just by being so open about something incredibly personal and traumatic from your own childhood. I know we talked about that the last time when you were on my podcast. FGM, yes.

Like there's obviously an expectation when you sign up for reality TV that you're going to share your life. But sharing the fun, messy, dramatic parts of your life is one thing. And sharing something that was done to you as a child that was so deeply traumatic and intimate is something entirely different. Yeah. So you have been very open about being subjected to FGM as a child. And I obviously can't speak on your experience. but in reading accounts from other survivors, I've seen women talk about carrying tremendous shame about what happened to them

and just somehow feeling less whole, less desirable, or even less of a woman because of something that was done to them without their consent. And I just think that's why your willingness to stand up and say, this happened to me, I'm not going to hide it. It's just so powerful. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

So incredible. Thank you. Really, you do it all. Thank you. No, I really appreciate that. It's like you say, like you feel like it's shameful. I talked to you actually the other day about it at lunch. I was talking to Kiki.

I went to lunch with Kikki and I was telling like, it's something that you have to deal with every single day. Like you know, it's not something that I think about it every day. You know what I mean? So for me, it's like I do talk about it as much as I get hate from my culture about it. Like, hey, why are you doing this? Why are you discussing it? because it's normal to my culture but it's not normal to me and a lot of girls now are speaking up and

stuff like so yeah thank you i do like to bring awareness to it because i feel like every woman or child or something we were born beautiful and there's no way to change our bodies for to make men excited i don't know i don't even know what the fuck the reason is till today have different reasons but none of it makes sense to me you know so yeah i do talk about it and i do sometimes honestly have shame about talking about it because it's like it's like nobody understands it and then it's like you're talking about it and I feel like people look at you differently too in a way it's like it's like really weird situation

but I'm okay to talk about it because I want people to know about it and I want people to to read about it research about it educate yourself on it and just like yeah yeah and it's like when somebody like you someone who people watch and laugh with, admire, feel like they know you. When you talk about surviving it, you make something that can otherwise feel distant, like incredibly real.

Exactly. And you just give visibility and a voice to women and girls to me never felt comfortable speaking about their own experiences. Exactly. I try to be the voice. And I definitely, if I had to change one thing in life, it would be that, honestly. I wouldn't change a lot of things.

I would really change that because a lot of women get depressed. Like it's a lot of girls die so young, infections, all these things. So I would definitely love, like if I had a magic hunt, do it, that's probably one of the things I would do. And so I tried to bring it as much as I can. And I've been, even, I was just at lunch with Kiki, I brought it up for like, because it just comes out of nowhere and I talk about it. But yeah, so I definitely use it. to talk about it to stop it. And I don't think you could ever fully know

the ripple effect of doing that. It's like you could have totally changed the trajectory of someone else's life by simply showing her that what happened to her, you know, isn't something that she needs to be ashamed of. Exactly. And it doesn't make her any less, any less whole, any less a woman. Exactly.

Exactly. No, I feel like I'm a full woman, you know. Just don't have some of my body. But it is what it is. the cards I was dealt with in this world, you know. So if I can stop it for other people, that would be my dream come true. You know what I mean? So we have a foundation actually with Iron Beauty, my makeup line where we try to, every time I go home, I go talk about it to the girls in the village, meet up with people to discuss it, see how I can help. And they just keep telling me, talk about it

in America. You have all these positions to discuss it. You have more power to talk about it with the places that you go to. So that's all. can do is talk about it and then of course we have proceeds from my own beauty that goes to to do that and help out so i feel like i'm trying my best but i'm not a magical person i wish i had a magical one right you know but yeah yeah thank you for that of course flowers to you and before we go what's next for you i that you can talk about i don't know if i can talk about it but i met your best friend recently Stasi oh how is that I'm like which one I met her she's very pretty I don't know because I've never watched but I just know you guys were in the same show yeah so I had a

great time with that that's all I can say for now anything I can look forward to that you're yes yes yes yes I do a lot of bravos oh I'm doing fun fest for bravo so I'm really excited to see all the girls and a lot of shows. And I love doing it so much because I have no clue about the shows. I was actually asking Kiki about this sultan hospitality. There is this. There's all this. And I don't know what they do, how their characters are. So I'm excited to learn it on the carpet. So that's my favorite thing. I do a lot of hosting now for Bravo. This year, next year. So you'll get to see me do a lot of fun things with Bravo social media. You know Donald. Yes. Love it.

Donuts. Love donuts. I do a lot of things with donuts. All right. Well, that is something I look forward to. Yeah. Yeah. So that's coming up next month. Amazing. And I'm going to watch it up in live next week. Yay. Yeah, which is exciting. I'm excited about that. And I was in Galshrip. Yeah. Yeah. Love it. Okay. Yeah. We need you on our screens. Yes. Well, thank you. Are you doing the Valley? Anyway, this isn't about me. It's your interview. Oh, God, I can take over now. We're done with me. Hey, Shina. Since Nia and the husband are gone, are you coming back with your husband.

Thank you so much for being there today. I love you. I love seeing you. I personally think, I think personally you should do it. And I'll tell you why. I think that you bring a lot of fun. And I think that you bring you and Lala don't get along now. And I want to see why you guys don't get along. Because I'm just a nosy bitch. So I would really love to see that. So I need you to. to come back. I've met Lala one time in my life at BravoCon. So I've never met her before. I've never watched anything about it. I just know she's very opinionated. She speaks her mind and you guys are not getting along and you're both young mothers. So I want to see what happened. That's a good thing of a lot of things I want to see. So I want to see that part. Right.

Well, produce it, I guess. Yes. So if I had a chance, I'd be like put you in it. Because I feel like Lala was fighting with the people that left. Yeah. Who is she going to fight with me? Now she's going to have to figure out her own storyline. Oh, okay. That's what I'm saying your storyline would be great with her. Mine. Yeah. Yeah.

Your storyline, she needs her own. Yeah, but the baby, they fight. Why did you guys fight? Why did you guys fight? We don't have time for that. I have time. I'm in L.A. I love gossip.

You're like at here all week. That's why we're having dinner tonight. Yeah, we can gossip at dinner. So we can gossip to dinner. Yes. Lala, I will tweet. about the gossip. I wouldn't ever.

Thank you so much for being here. I love seeing you. And I see you. Yes. Oh, my. Thank you. Always. You guys can listen to Kiki Weekdays on Radio Andy's reality checked.

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