Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - EMTs, Exes & Escrow

Episode Date: April 17, 2026

Scheana is joined by Kiki Monique & Ryan Bailey for an episode that spirals in the best way—from real-life health scares to reality TV chaos, with absolutely no shortage of tea. And trust, this one covers everything: a DoorDash delivery in the ambulance, a hair dye allergy gone wrong, and Scheana casually admitting she may have poisoned baby Summer Moon. Then it gets existential. Scheana revisits a psychic reading that somehow blamed her behavior in a past life for her ex Rob’s behavior in this one, while also declaring Brock a soulmate… but maybe just a lesson, versus a life partner? Jury’s still out. Coachella chaos delivers exactly what you want: Scheana’s best (and worst) sets, wandering the desert with friends, a gummy kicking in at the worst possible moment, and a case of mistaken identity that had people convinced she was hanging with Tom Sandoval. Which…is how rumors get started! Also, how did Summer Moon play a role in finding Brock’s lost phone at Neon Carnival? And after three years, Tom and Ariana’s house is finally in escrow—so of course, they have thoughts. A lot of them. Press play if you’re ready for the kind of episode that starts with an ambulance and ends with an IG block. Again. Follow us: @scheana @scheananigans Co-Hosts: @thetalkofshame @sobaditsgoodwithryanbailey Purchase your very own copy of the NYT Best-selling book/audiobook MY GOOD SIDE at www.mygoodsidebook.com! Episode Sponsors:Wake up with clearer skin, smoother hair, and cooler sleep. Use code GOODASGOLD for an extra 30% off at blissy.com/GOODASGOLD.Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.Nuuly is a great value at $98 a month for any 6 styles, but right now you can get $28 off your first month when you sign up with the code goodasgold. Just go to Nuuly.com and enter the code goodasgold at sign up to get $28 off your first month. Nuuly Subscription Clothing Rental. Change Your Clothes.Produced by Dear Media.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The following podcast is a dear media production. From Vanderpump rules to motherhood and everywhere in between. Warm up the kettle. It's time to spill some tea. Let's get into some shenanigans with Shea Shea. I make my tea. Is this like a Mr. Rogers part of your show or you make the tea? Before you spill it?

Yeah. I wanted to make an announcement with you guys on today. Second book. What's in, oh, you... What's the announcement? We won't tell. I won't tell. I won't tell.

I can't trust this guy. Shut. Ah, yes I can. I mean, listen, I've learned, I've kept now, I've, ah, you're right. You're right. You're right. I'm just, I'm not going to argue. I get, I'm not going to argue it.

I get laid my own baby's name on my video. I'm not going to argue it. We should just leave in all of this before. Ryan, don't say anything. He's like, I thought you just meant about that. Yes. And then I was like, defending you and I got Mark it. I was like, what the?

There was another time where I was like, well, I was defending, Sheena. And I was like, fuck. I just can't win. Okay. And here we are getting into some more shenanigans. Is there anything to stay away from or not say or yeah. Okay. No, say whatever. We're not live. It's not Jeff Lewis. You know, when you announce your baby's name in the world. Oh, God. It's brutal. Ah, okay. How are we doing today?

We got Ryan Bailey, Kiki Monique in the house. Yeah. Yes, what's up? How's dad life? Are you sleeping? No. Good. That's the correct answer, by the way.

But it's like a happy not sleeping, you know? Totally. I'm exhausted, but I'm happy. Yeah. I think the first week and a half was truly a slap in the face. It was just like, whoa, this is what everybody said it was going to be, but actually feeling it. Yeah.

And you're running on adrenaline. So you feel like you would lift a car. But it's amazing. Yeah. I love that. Yeah. Have you been Kiki? I know you were in the hospital last night. Well, I didn't take myself to the hospital. I called 911.

Okay. And that took a lot because it feels very dramatic. That's scary. How long did it take for them to pick up? They picked up right away, but they just dispatch you and then you have to like wait for the fire department and the EMTs to come. So I'm like waiting outside for the sirens. Because also I'm like, I'm like, I'm standing outside. I'm like in case I do drop dead. I want to be on the sidewalks. So someone can see you? Yeah. And like what are you like, are you like, what am I wearing right now? No. I throw my flip flop. because that was the easiest thing, and I just have my bag

because I was like, I got my ID, I had my insurance card, so they take me to the good hospital. You say you had your IUD? No, my ID. Guys, always remember to bring the IUD. Well, the E&T was hot. But can I tell you?

Hey, guys, I have an IUD if anybody's... The most humbly moment was, you know, because I'd gone home and I was like, oh, I was like, just going to do like an Instacart order and just like order some soup, watch some TV, go to bed. And then I get in the ambulance, they're checking my vitals.

And one of the firefighters is like, are you Kiki? And I'm all like... Shut out. Yeah, yeah. Reality chat, serious. And he's like, your DoorDash is here. And I was like, oh, thanks.

Anyway. It's like when someone asks me if I can take a photo and I'm like, sure, and I go to Pose and they hand me their phone to take one of them. Okay, so the DoorDash guy was hot. No, well, the fire. The EMT guy was hot. Oh, the EMT was hot. Yeah, he got the DoorDash order from the guy who was waiting outside. I guess he'd been calling me, but I was in the ambulance, you know, saving my life.

That would be a very L.A. thing if you ordered it from the ambulance. Yeah, I know. Right. I guess I had an allergic reaction. I'm waiting to hear back from the dentist because I only know of one allergy. And so I don't know what I was allergic to. You went to the dentist yesterday. I went to the dentist before. And then it was like I got home and then all of a sudden I started just like having an allergic reaction. I don't know what to do. And the only thing I hadn't eaten or drinking anything since I got home. All I took was

some Advil. And so I don't know. Maybe you're allergic to Advil. But I've always taken Advil. So I don't know. That'd be a weird thing to suddenly be allergic to. So I don't know. I guess I got Well, as you get older, this is another horrible story about me. As you get older, you do develop allergies. I used to, I have like pretty much a white beard now. And I like about nine years ago or so, I started dying the beard with like just for men. And then all of a sudden, my face had an allergic I looked like the nutty professor. No. And it just blew up. Like an hitch. Yeah. And then I went and they were like, oh yeah, you're having an allergic reaction, you know. And I was like, I've used this before. You goes, yeah, your body will change over time.

And then this is how big of an idiot I was. I was like, what's the chance it's going to happen again? And I did it two months later. Same damn thing. Same damn thing. Yeah, I do not learn. Yeah, but here's the thing. That's the only way you do learn. By having to happen three times? I mean, at least twice.

Yeah. So I learned the hard way feeding my daughter salmon at a young age. I gave her just a little bit. She's eating this up. And I was like, oh my gosh. It's like she's between, I don't know, seven and 11 months or whatever, but eating food and whatnot. And so I'm like, oh my God, she loves salmon. This is great. So I keep giving her more. More. You can overdose on Mercury when you're a baby. So I don't know this.

I'm a new parent. How the fuck would I know? I was just so proud of her that she was eating so much salmon. Then, you know, at that age, they take three naps still. So then I put her down for a nap. She threw up in her crib. And I was like, oh my God. Oh, well, milk after salmon. Like that is kind of disgusting. So that's probably what it was. Fast forward another week or two. I give her salmon again. Same thing happens. And I'm like, shit, I wonder if she's allergic. But I wouldn't have no. I was like, I need to try it again. Because I thought it was maybe just the milk later down too quickly after. So then we start researching. And no, there's just only a very small amount. You're supposed to give a baby between seven and 12 months. That's great. That's a good tip.

I felt so bad. But I was like, oh my God. I'm like poisoning my daughter with mercury. You were just about to take her to an omicasa She was fine, no allergy, but I swear to you, she has not eaten salmon again. I wouldn't either. And I'm like, there's no way you remember that shit, but when you were like eight months old. Come on. Well, she is going to remember it and you have the choice

to tell her that you tried to poison her or not. And you almost became a Netflix special. Yeah. Have you seen Mommy, Dad, and Dearest? The Sheena Shea story. Oh, my God. I felt terrible. Oh, God. Yeah, so now she has a fear of salmon that I put in her at a very young age. She swears she remembers stuff.

She's like, I remember when I was born. I'm like, really? And I'm not going to say she doesn't. How do I know what you remember? You know, if I was five, maybe I would remember things from when I was, as she says, zero. But what did she say? Like, what does she remember? She'll just like make up, or maybe she's not making up stories, but she's just like, yeah, I remember.

And then I saw the doctor. And then I cried, but then I didn't cry. Or like, she'll, like, take stories that I've told. And then she'll recount them, like, as if she remembers them. I didn't know if she was like, I was in a Sir Alleyway. And I remember you doing a scene with Lala. Oh, my gosh. Well, I love those stories that you hear about where kids talk about like, yeah.

And the next thing I knew, I died and then I woke up in your belly. And it's like reincarnation stories. Yes. It's really remembering these other lives they had. Yeah. And like, those are creepy. But it makes me hopeful that reincarnation exists because I'd like to leave evil people get reincarnated into the worst. But the reincarnation.

of it exists it just because you don't remember your past. Like I always want to be like, I don't know, there's something about like, I want to remember who I am now even if, well, I don't know. But you don't remember necessarily, but there is something inside of you. So like, I hate to bring up my ex, but apparently. Which one? Rob. Rob, okay. For those of you at home, the TV guy. Yeah, TV guy. So back right after we had broken up, I saw, a psychic and she was telling me that he was a carmic cosmic, carmic, whatever soulmate of mine. And that somehow in every lifetime we find each other. And I'm like, dear God, in the next lifetime, can you just leave me alone?

And she said that in the past life, I guess I had done something that really hurt him, broke his heart, whatever it was. And for whatever reason in this lifetime, he was still carrying that with him. And it's not that he even realized it, but that was why he, like, couldn't get close to me and couldn't say he loved me. It was just something inside of him that, like, wasn't allowing him the chance to get hurt again because of what the fuck I did it in past life. So the psychic ended up blaming you. Yeah. I would be so pissed if I paid money for that.

I didn't pay. It was free. And, by the way, it seems like you've taken this seriously, so you will excuse his behavior in the present life. I mean, it did make sense when she went into detail. There were other things she said that I was like, you're not wrong. Yeah. But. Does Brock get pissed?

Like, he's like, what do you say about me comically? So back then, when I had that reading, did not know Brock at all. This was like 2018. This is pre-Summer and all of that pre-pandemic. But I did have another reading last year. And this psychic, who several friends of mine have seen, she told me, I mean, there's multiple soulmates you can have. It's not just like there's.

one person for everyone. You have to find your soulmate. Like, I don't believe in that shit. It's not a thing. There are cosmic or karmic, whatever soulmates. There's this type of soulmate. And not every soulmate is meant to be your life partner. Some of them, like Rob, was in my life to teach me a lesson. And that lesson was to put myself first because I never did. I put him first in everything. And had I continued doing that, I would have missed out on the show in Vegas and all of these things I needed to finally put myself first. And so Brock is one of my soulmates. Maybe he's, I mean, I hope, you know, my life partner soulmate, maybe he's just here to teach me a lesson. Like, I don't know, DVD, but, you know.

Sorry, Brock, TBD. Yeah. What did the psychic say about the valley? She said to fucking run. Dude, I got to, sorry, I'm going to go hard against his psychic right now. I disagree. I told you, I think the valley needs you completely right now. But I'd like to see you. I'm sorry, I'd like to see you on the Valley.

Why? I just, I mean, we're only two episodes in. I don't want to be a hater. I'm still enjoying aspects of it. I just think for the storylines, you actually do know all of these people. You do have your relationships. You do have a child.

You do have a relationship where you kind of revealed something that's interesting in your book that I would actually want to hear more about. There's all of these natural relationships and fights and people getting along that I was like, you, like, watching Schwartz try to, like, have a conversation with like Michelle and things. new people. You can see that he's a pro at reality, but you can even see he's like, this is actually a lot harder than I thought it was. You're the glute.

Like when Lala tried to have, you know, Janet and Nia come together and then she sort of left. And I was like, okay, I appreciate the effort. But actually, Sheena would have made more sense because you are really close to Nia. You've been close with Janet for a long time. And I think like, hey, you would have stayed there for the conversation. And I think it would have gone somewhere. And you would have made Janet apologize, which is what she needed to do. I mean, not poor Janet.

I've kind of poor Janet. Like she did, she had two, like zero for two batch. Yeah. She goes up to Jasmine. That doesn't go anywhere. She goes up to Nia, that doesn't go anywhere. And you're like, God, this is like, all. And at this point, I just want Janet to lean fully into being a villain.

Right. Just lean at this point. Yeah. Like, let's just pick a lane and pick that one because the other one's not working. And be confident with it. Like, don't like whiver, lever. Like, you know, even if that's not who you are in real life, go for it. Yeah.

Yeah. No, for sure. And like, the thing is, Nia would have never been at that party if there weren't cameras there. They're not friends. None of these people would be there if there weren't cameras there. No offense to Lala. Good on your psychic. Yeah. Maybe in the future. But yeah, let's see how the season plays out. Yeah. Let's take a quick little break and then get into some Coachella, Cella, whatnot. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So one thing we all do every day, every night, we go to sleep, right? It is one of the things that is just a guarantee we're going to sleep. So we should do

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I haven't watched it yet. I have the Valley and the Summer House on. I just got Valley, but I watch the Summer House and it's like a weird It's going to make Amanda look even worse. Yeah, I mean, it's like not the best episode of the world, but like West has and Amanda You get a screener every week? Yeah. But now, but they used to give it really, like,

they used to give it like four days before and now they're doing it. Like literally, yeah. Like, when it shows hot, they give it to you like right before they were like, nope. But there's a lot of like Amanda, like Sierra like going to bat for Amanda of like, I love you so much, Amanda. I want you to see how beautiful you are. And you're like, oh, damn.

Yeah. Yeah. Wait. Okay. So as we're talking about Summer House a little bit, Is it true or is Brock pulling my leg? He said that there's going to be Summerhouse Ozark starring West. That's the rumor.

They are trying to make West the bridge to this new franchise that there's been no confirmation from Bravo. Even though I love that Bravo is sliding into the comment section and confirming and denying things now because people were also had this rumor about Summerhouse that there were going to be two separate reunions. Guys, use your brains. They're not just going to agree to have two separate reunions. No. They would have done that for me and Raquel. Exactly. I mean, that's the thing that annoys me.

And I would say at this point, Scandival, or just at least my feeling on it was so much more high-press. I mean, I were just like, I felt like that at the time, but I was losing my mind. Yeah. This is intense, but like, no, they're going to have everybody in the same room as they should. And that's what they signed up to do. Their reality starts. Yeah, there are no restraining orders. You saw that.

Yet, yet. But you saw that, that little clip of John Hamm talking to West Wilson, where West Wilson says, he was interviewing John Hamm and he's like, what do you think of the Ozarks? I'm working on a project with Bravo about the Ozarks. He goes, I mean, not working on, but this was a clip from like months ago when somebody pulled out last week. Okay, I didn't see that. Okay, okay. But at this point, do you think if you were Bravo, do you go ahead and continue to green light

that show with Wes Wilson being a villain right now? I don't know. Here's the thing. Someone made a very good comment. At least with Tom Sandoval, not only was he a villain, but he was giving us something. He had charisma. Like, there was, I still wanted to watch Tam Sandoval, like, because he was just crazy. I don't know.

West isn't like the most. exciting person to me. And especially when he talks on a reality show, like when he has to be like on Watch What Happens Live or the reunions, he doesn't speak in full sentences. He's really good at his social media. He's good on this show. But remember Sandoval when he was giving us like, Lisa, oh! And he was like crying against the window, you know, like, we're not going to see that from West. He's not going to allow himself. He's not going to allow himself to be weirdly vulnerable like that, you know? No, for sure. Just like clams up. So Brock and I were at, I think it was somber.

set and we're in the front like pit area and we look over and he goes oh my god it's west and i was like wait what and so i look and i was like he looks like he looks like shit and he was like and there's this brunette girl then there's this other girl and i'm like honey i don't think and he goes that's west and i was like hold on i'm seen from a profile i'm like okay he must be going through it the beard was like just like grown out and scraggly and it looked like he'd maybe lost some weight. But wasn't him? No, he wasn't him.

No, he was in New York. No, he was in New York that morning, even Amanda Betula's apartment, you know? He turns around and Brock goes, oh, not west, not west. Okay, okay. But I was like, do I get the phone out? And just like, you know, because I'm like, hold on. Let's, let's confirm before I just start recording a random. Yeah.

I really did expect to see Sierra there, though. And I almost was so weirdly pleasantly surprised that she wasn't. Yeah. I was like, God, every move that she could like lean in harder into the publicity the aspect of this. She doesn't. And I think that's such a weirdly classy move. But it made me also think she's working on something so much bigger. She would not, because, you know, Mia was there. Jesse was there. Like, she had every reason to hang out there. But she's like, first of all, she's like, I've done the tart house. That was

me like two years ago. Yeah. And like, I don't need to be here. I'm on to bigger and better things. So I even love that more. And my friend was talking to too. She doesn't seem like the person that, you know, a lot of people would probably want to come up and be like, oh, Wes, I'm so feel so bad for you. She doesn't want that. No. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. Other than that, yeah, how was Coachella otherwise? Coachella? You know, it was good. I only did two days. We did Couchella for day three, went to a pool party on our way out of town.

But I feel like I do have a good, you know, just a good cross-tab for all things, Coachella. When you think festivals, you thank Kiki and I. Yeah, exactly. And then I was actually there. So we had you, you know, nostalgically posting while, you know, doing your little baby chella. Yeah, I mean, I've been to 13 actual Coachella's in my lifetime. I mean, I, I, that festival gets so shit on and I get it. But I have never had anything but an amazing time.

It's always the people that you go with, too. Like, I look forward to it every damn year. And I still get nostalgic, like I am at home. What was the first year you went? Got it had, I think 2007. Oh, wow. Wow. Yeah, okay, so, oh, gee.

When it was only a one weekend festival. Yes, exactly. Yeah. At one point it was a two-day festival, one weekend. I mean, but I've seen the best performance of my life was seen Prince at Coachella. That was hands down. I've seen so many concerts that is the number one. I saw Baychella.

I saw, I saw, I saw so many amazing things. Did you see Eminem? I did. I did, yes. The Tupac. Hologna. So, I mean, like, there's been such amazing experiences.

So I still have this huge soft space in a spot of my heart. But it's also how many amazing artists are there? Like, just every type of music. And the fact that we can sit at home and just flip through every. stage is so awesome. It was cool when we were doing that Sunday. I didn't even know who some of the people were. Yeah. Doesn't matter. Just go explore. Now I love F.K.A. Twigs. Oh, she's awesome. I had no idea who that was on the set list. Oh, really? Okay. And then we got home and I was like, oh, shit, I'm into that. And you know, she used to date Robert Pattinson, and then she dated Shia LaBouf and

Shia LaBoof. And then she sued Shia LaBoof. I think rightfully so. I mean, she should. Mm-hmm. So from what you were covering, Kiki, I mean, take it is she. wind issues. I know there were so many Airbnbs that canceled on people. Yeah. What stood out to you the most? Honestly, I now, because this is my third year, so my version of Couchella is just sitting at home on couch or in my bed, making fun of all the things that are happening. But I really actually enjoy the people who authentically go, like probably the youths, who just are like not there to like dress up. They're really there for the music and they're just having a good time. And they're going to tell you the good and the bad. And so that was really fun. It seemed like, though, the big drama this year was between two things.

There were a lot of influencers who got really big, like a year ago, just being a regular person. They turned into influencers. And now they were at brand houses that didn't align with the morals of their followers. And so their followers were trying to cancel them because they were like, how dare you turn on us? So that was a big drama. And then also apparently the pizza allegedly was making a lot of people sick. You see that Tyler Rell's guy that he thinks the pizza, there was a bad batch of pizza potentially. Like in the VIP tent and GA?

I don't know. I don't want to name names. I'm like a suit for defamation. But people were saying one particular pie slice was they ate it and they were feeling queasy afterwards. So we don't know. Some people were saying like pizza is easily, you can get food poisoning because sometimes you have undercooked dough and fermentation process. And like food that sits out all day. That's like. So yeah.

So those were the two big things this year. But then obviously everyone was calling it Beberchella. So that was the one performance I wanted to see. And then I got a lot of, you know, crap. because I was not impressed by the performance. How long did you make it into watching it? I made it about halfway through. I didn't even, I don't think I got too far.

But yeah, I just was like, I don't know. They're just like, you just don't get it. And I'm like, I'm not a believer. You're not a believer. But see, that's what I think is amazing about that you. And I got a negative comment on my show because they said we were infantilizing him, you know. But at the same time, each performer has a story that they tell, right? Totally.

So you're thinking about the historical length of his career thus far. that he was not doing well at multiple points in his career. We just had on Sunday that it came out that Britney Spears checked into a rehab, right? Yes. So if all things had gone well, Britney Spears would have been headlining Coachella at some point, right? So we see how it can turn left at any point. And I think part of it is like all of these fans that they grew up on him. And this was a massive fandom are like, oh my God, they thought he wasn't going to show.

Like they thought he was going to like he was going to have a mental breakdown or something. So people were celebrating that. He's singing. No, he is not dancing. He's not doing any of those things. but his style of music at this point, he's more into that kind of Dijon-McGy style of music that it wouldn't make sense for him to do choreography.

I don't know, but I do think it was slow as hell. And I'm just not a fan of when somebody sings four lines of a song and then moves it on. I hate when DJs do that. It pisses me off. Like before you get to the rap break down and wannabe and then they cut it off. Yeah.

Yeah. So being there in the crowd, I was so excited to watch this with my sisters. She is a believer. And she had VIP. We had artist band. So I was like, you know what? I'm going to try and just go up for the first part of it, get a couple videos.

We walk up. I was like, nope, I'm out. Like, we were in the pit and I was like, this isn't fun. As close as we are, like, it was like sardines. Yeah. So I was like, no, no, I'm good. I'm going to go back and like hang with her. One song, two song, three song, four.

And I'm like, is this a new song or is this the same song? Like, it just, the first several songs. It was just the same melody, beat, just kind of all started to sound the same to me. So I was like, okay, he's playing his new stuff. I don't really know this. I really have to pee. And I want to pee and be back before he plays like the good stuff. And Ali was like, I'm bored as fuck.

Like, let's go. So she's like, I'll go to the bathroom with you. So we go to the bathroom. VIP completely changed their bathrooms this year. So it's all only port-a-potties. They were nicer, but like the trailer ones that they usually they have in the back, they did not exist. There were none of those.

But they're like, instead of that, here's a vanity. So then they had like vanity set up, which nice, I guess. But I don't know, maybe it made the lines less because it was just all individual instead of girls all lining up to whatever. Anyway, we go, come out of the bathroom, still slow. And my friend Daniel and like, all of the gays were in the Yuma tent. And I was like, do it. Let's do it.

Let's go in the Yuma tent. And I hadn't been in there yet. So we're just like, okay, we're going to go on an adventure. So we go in the Yuma tent. And I mean, it is just shirtless, sweaty men. God knows who the DJ was or whatever was happening. And Daniel goes, I'm underneath the second disco ball closest to stage. There are thousands of people.

And so I look and I'm like, okay, he's right there. I was like, Allie, you ready to go on an adventure? And she's like, okay, I was like, hold my hand. and we are just going through. I mean, I don't even think there were really any girls in there. But I mean, these men were getting after it. I love it. And I was just like, I used to have crazy anxiety and crowds.

And now I just can't let myself like get claustrophobic or get anxious. I'm just like, there's a lot of people. It's fine. Just breathe. There's no weapons in here. You're safe. It's okay. And so Allie's kind of like, oh, my God.

And I'm like, we got this. We got this. Second disco ball. Just look at the destination. It's right there. Think of heated rivalry. And so right when we get to. the second disco ball. All the guys are right there. We stay for a few and it was so loud.

I was like, okay, well, that was fun. We exit the Yuma 10. And then we're like, fuck, we're in GA. Now we have to get back. Oh, no. Women in children first. Guys, the lines to get in VIP, the amount of people. And you would just try to, it would just be this big cluster and you would just try to squeeze through this small opening with a security guy. Because they also changed that this year. There's only one way in and one way out of VIP. Normally you can go the side. You can go here. You can go there.

No, it was just one way in. So we're like, shit. But thankfully, Beber was already playing. So it wasn't crazy. So we get back. We're at the top where like the lions are, the gazebo and whatnot. And we look down at the E3 pole where our friends and my sister is. And I was like, I can't do it.

I can't go back and push through that many people. Then my sister's texting me. She's like, wow, really? You're just like, don't come back. And I was like, I can't do it. I'm sorry. Like I'm looking at where the exit is. Then he like plays the head.

And she's like, I believed in you. Okay. We're gonna, we're dancing. We're like up there. My friend Elaine is literally sitting on the lion. Oh my God. I mean, best view though, honestly. So we just were like up there for a little bit.

But then I'm looking. I'm like, I don't want to go back into that crowd to then leave in that crowd. We were on e-bikes. So the thought of being on an electric bike with just tens of thousands of people at one time. I was like, I can't do it. So we did end up leaving a little early and we were staying at a house really close to the festival. We got to the house right when the fireworks went off

and saw the whole fireworks shows. We were like, oh, perfect timing. We saw the whole thing. Well, you must have been staying really close. Have you got home by the time the fireworks went off? No, it was like a seven-minute bike ride. Oh, okay. Which I was wondering, like, how many experiences did you have this weekend of

some random person like tripping their ass off and then all the going like, is that Chinochet? Yes. Does that happen a lot? I would imagine. Because if I was like rolling my balls off, or something and then all of a sudden I saw somebody that I watched on television for like nine or ten seasons I think I would lose my mind. I would like this isn't real kind of a thing.

Yeah, there was one moment where, you know, right when the gummies hit and Brock was going to find, because Brock, I swear, if you were at a festival and you're trying to find me, like, Brock will find you. He is so good at it. Like, he just always can bring everyone together. So I'm in my space and he was like, okay, I'm going to go get whoever it was. And I was like, right, I got this. And right when it hits, this girl comes up. Can I get a photo? Another girl comes up.

Can I get a photo? And it's like flashing lights. And I was like, and then one of my friends, Troy, he comes up and he's like, okay, it is you. He goes, I thought that was you. And I didn't know for sure. And then once I saw people coming up, I knew it was just like, okay, good. I was like, friend.

I'm like, here. Of course, at the one time that I'm like by myself. But so then I went and hung out with that. And then we found everyone. It was so much fun. And the thing is, it's like, I never mind. Like, if I'm going to be out in public, then I expect people to come up to me. Are you bummed if they don't come up to you?

No, they always do. Okay. I didn't know if I didn't know if you had like. Never happened. I don't know if you've ever seen that awesome movie soap dish with Sally Field and Wobie Goldberg. And she goes to the mall just to get recognized. And it was like, it's like a really funny scene in that movie.

Oh, funny. That hasn't happened to me other than being in Amsterdam. It was like day six of our trip. And I realized I was like, I haven't, no one stopped me. for a photo. Like crazy. I guess they don't get Vanderpumbrules in Holland.

When fans take pictures, do you make them show you the picture before they leave? No, what I do do is if I know it's bad lighting, I tell them to check it. I go, just make sure you like it. It's not like, well, what do I look like? I want to make sure they get a good photo.

I have a picture with you at Coachella from a bunch of years back. And I didn't even think of it at the time. And I posted it and they're like, wow, she let you take it from not her good side. And I was like, I didn't even think about it. No, unless a fan points out like, oh, is this your good side? But I'm like, what's your good side?

And I did this all of book tour because I don't care what I look like in your photo. I want you to look good in your photo. I want you to have your good side in the photo. So I probably look horrendous in half the photos I've taken at Coachella and whatnot. But I'm like, whatever, you got a photo. It's a memory. Post it. I don't care.

Now, you were with Allie. What is she up to? So she's moved to Charleston. Yeah. Isn't she in Southern Hospitality this season or about coming up? I mean, that's the movie. I saw her in the first episode. She had like a little cameo.

She didn't say anything, but she was in the line outside. I need to know where to look for her because I'm caught up on that show and I didn't notice her yet. They don't make a deal of it. They don't put her name or anything like that. But I was like, oh, that's Allie. Well, I do know some things that she did while cameras were around. And I'm very curious if that's going to be shown or not. Is she dating or is that not published?

She is single and she likes to mingle. Okay. Yeah. And she needed that. I think she needed a reset. She needed to get out of L.A. She needed to just focus on herself. No, I certainly hope not.

Yeah. Yeah. Are any of the Southern Charm boys trying to get with her? Or Southern hospitality, you guys? I don't know. We did see James was at Coachella with some, like, blonde girl. He's shirtless. She's in like a bikini.

And so Ali saw that. And she was like, oh, my God, that's like the hottest girl ever. And I looked and I was like, no offense. No, she's not, Ali. Okay? Like she's just in nothing. She's blonde. She's cute.

Yeah. But I'm like, that could have been a fan for all we know. It was just like a photo posted. But was Tom Sandoval there? Did you guys see anything of him posted? I didn't look at his stories or anything. Okay. Apparently, I'm blocked again.

From Sandoval. Yeah. Someone sent something the other day and like I couldn't click on it. And I was like, oh, I guess I'm blocked again. I don't know what I did this time. I don't really care. But it was so funny because we're sitting down in like, the back of the VIP area, they have kind of like a secret teaky bar and there's like the water

and the palm trees and everything. So we're just like having a moment. One of my favorite things to do at festivals is just sit down in the grass, stretch and just like take a moment. And this guy comes up to our friend Will and he says something and then he looks at me, looks at Elaine, and he was like, oh, sorry and walks away. And so I was like, oh, he just thought he came up to the wrong group or whatever. Right then Brock's walking up. He goes, did he just say Thompson? Sandoval. And then when Brock said it, the guy turned around, he goes, yo, did you say Tom Sandoval?

And he goes, yeah. And we look at Will and we go, oh, my God, he thinks you're Tom Sandoval. I'm like, this is how rumors get started. Sheena's seen with Tom Sandoval sitting on the grass at Coachella like we used to do. But I'm like, Will, I don't think he looks anything like Tom, but he had the exact same of the black hat, like Tom always has like the bent bill like hat. He had just like a black like hoodie on or whatever. And so this guy, he ended up, he was from New Zealand.

And so then Brock was like, oh, come over. And then he was like, yeah, I thought I heard you say that. So then when he looked at me, he realized like, oh, it probably is. But we just thought he walked up to the wrong group and was like fucked up or something. His name was Benjamin. Shout out to him. Shout out. Benjamin. Proud I remember that.

But I was, I do. Like the fact that you got out so quickly, though, that's what I was trying to explain to people that were talking about the Bieber performance is that, you know, it was so mellow. And he was like, he got to do what he wanted to do. and a lot of people just were so moved by and thought it was beautiful. But I was trying to impress upon these people. They've been going all day. They're sweaty as hell. They're like on maybe various substances or not.

They're so tired. And then, you know, GA especially, you have to walk two miles out to get into. And then you have to fight for Uber for another hour and a half. So it's a lot. So usually you want like a big, huge, like pumped up performance to like get you ready to go for the night. Yeah. I felt like I'm excited to watch it back this weekend because I, did feel like Sabrina and Justin's performances were very much tailored for the live stream.

I love Sabrina. I saw her a couple times on her most recent tour, but I felt like I enjoyed the tour maybe more than this because it was, I guess if you were watching it at home, it was like a movie and it was like scenes and like moving through. I wasn't getting that from the crowd and where I was. Which is interesting because like I think that was, I saw one creator who was like, a lot of these performances did seem Taylor for the live stream, but you should be performing for the people who've spent thousands of dollars to eat here. But it's like, how do you, you know? I was wondering that was also inspired a little bit by Bad Bunny Super Bowl performance because it was so filmed. Right. It was like, the stage set up. Like, he knew exactly where the camera was. Oh, yeah. And that was

incredible. But I was like, is that the style of where these big performances are going to go instead of playing for the audience? Yeah. So I saw a lot of backlash about Bieber. And then I also saw a lot of praise. And I'm like, okay, I didn't stay for the whole thing because I just, I didn't want to deal with the crowd. It wasn't like, oh, this is so boring. I'm leaving. Yeah. I did feel that way and I went to the bathroom. And I was like, okay. I just didn't say it. Here we go. Now I was singing the hits. Are you in a fight with your sister now that you didn't love, love the performance? Maybe. Yeah. She just was like, of course, just like giving me shit at the end. She's like, oh my God, it was so worth it. The best thing ever. I'm already rewatching it. Da da da da da da. And I was like, I don't

doubt that it got more hype and got better. I did not want to deal with the crowd. It is the only reason I left. I would have stayed till the end, but then I would have waited an hour and a half until like 2.30 to get on the bike and leave. Yeah. And I didn't want to do that. Like we wanted to go to an after party and it was just, it's no amount of anyone was worth the crowd for me that night. Lady Gaga, I did stay till the end. That was worth the crowd for me. Yeah. I'm also a millennial. I'm not gender. Z. I was like, this shit starting at 1130. I've been here all day. My feet hurt. I'm tired. Like, I wanted to just get back to the house in time to watch the end from the live stream.

And you're like an energizer bunny. So if you're tired, I would have been dead. Oh, yeah, on the couch. Like, I'd have been up all day. Like, we'd bottle feeding and stuff like that. And like, I was like, just thinking about my knees out there walking out. And there is something magical about when it turns the night and you feel that cool wind blowing. But at the same time, there's also something magical about your couch. And having food there. and whatever you want to drink, and then being able to go downstairs to your bedroom, you know? No, I loved that. Like, I had on Sunday, I had my cats with me,

we're on the couch, we're all cuddled up, and I'm like, okay, I didn't know. I didn't know Carol G at all, really, and I watched her performance, I was blown away by it. I was like, wow. Did you see any of her? I didn't, but. She was awesome, yeah.

Okay, nice. Well, I'm excited to watch some of it back for weekend, too. But Friday, we're going to a charity gala for Jared. He does the big charity events every year. So I'm like, okay, I'm going to miss Sabrina. I'm like, I have to look at the Coachella lineup to see. You can stream it on your phone during the events. Yeah.

We did that once at the Vanderpum Doggala. Lisa was not happy with us. It was like a- Is Lisa ever happy with you guys? It was like Mike Tyson, De La Jolla, Jake Paul. I don't know, some big ass fight that we're like, we're not missing this for the dogs. I'm sorry. And we had it like live streaming on like five different tables. And she was so pissed.

We're still here. We're spending money. Yeah. Like, why do you care what we're doing? Anyway, yeah, so I'm excited to watch it back because what I, see, I've heard mixed things about Beber where I saw people saying, you know, like he sold his catalog for like $200 million and he couldn't perform certain songs. And so the loophole was like karaoke and whatnot. And then we did a deep dive with chat this morning. I was like, okay, that's not true actually.

But what I thought, which you debunked right before we started this, I was like, you know what, mad respect to him for just going live. on the stream and being like, what do you guys want to hear next? This, boom, let me play it. Oh, the Wi-Fi, hold on. Fuck, let me, like, I was like, you know what? That's awesome for just like a DJ, you know, if you don't have a pre-made set list. So that came out yesterday.

It was all planned. Even the moment when he was like, oh, man, this Wi-Fi, those were all moments. They have videos of him rehearsing like during the day and Haley. But also, like, to his credit, yeah, that was all planned out. That wasn't just him, like, let's see what videos I can look up. Yeah. That was, and that's also a set that he said.

sound check. Like, you know, the cover of Neo, so sick, and the Chris Brown cover. That was so good. Like, I think maybe right when we came back from the bathroom, it was like right at that moment. And that was like very nostalgic. And so like that was cute. And I liked that he was singing over his baby voice, you know, little baby Bieber. But I just, I liked my bike and no crowd more. All right. Well, I don't know. I'll watch Weekend 2 along with you and see if I changed my mind. I'm just curious if there's any changes because it does seem like the kind of performance that you could make changes to if you wanted because there was only like a laptop and a table out there. Who's it? He had two acoustic guitars at one point.

Yeah. Mm-hmm. So yeah, we leave early. We go to Neon Carnival. We get home from Neon Carnival. Brock's like, where's my phone? And he says, check my location. It's here, right?

No. His location was still in thermal. No. And the TikTok that I filmed that night that took so many times to get it perfect was on his fucking. What's thermal? That's the city where Neon Carnival is. Oh, okay, okay. And his phone location was in thermal.

And thankfully, he was like, I'll deal with it in the morning. I go, no, no, no. You're going to go log on, lost phone, put the thing. So my number pops up. 8 a.m. we get a call. They found his phone. They knew who he was.

They recognized the photo of Summer on the phone. Amazing. And he got it back. And I was like, thank God because that TikTok, it needed to be posted. It was so good. Also, what other photos are on that phone? Well, it was just the background one. It's not like they were going through his photos.

Did you see any celebrities at Neon Carnival? Like DiCaprio or anything? No. I don't think so. I just the performances. But yeah, now, I will say my highlight of the weekend was Katzai. Huntrix coming out, singing Golden, like nothing was going to top that for me. It was so fucking good.

We were front front at the barrier. It was amazing. And this is just like my age and I don't, I watched that Katzai performance. And the golden thing was cool, but the amount of people freaking out about cats, I'm trying to understand the, I know, I'm sorry. I don't think they're bad. I don't think they're bad. What?

It's just. Those girls can dance. They sing. They are incredible. No, I'm not saying they're not incredible. I just don't understand like the ins, I don't know. I'm just going to shut up now. Let's cut this.

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what it was and I realized I was blocked. I guess Victoria deleted all of the content of them together on Instagram again. So I don't know if they broke up again. But I also saw, I think it was on your page, Kiki, that their house finally sold or is an escrow. Oh, yeah. Finally. Three years later. I know.

It took so long. That was actually really, it's a follower that, you know, I really, there's certain followers that DMA that you just trust. And I was like, even though I was like, I don't know if I'll be able to get confirmation. And I was trying to. I was like, I'm running with it because I believe this person. Yeah. And I know that they have. And then TMZ ran with it shortly after there.

So, but yeah. Did they get a good deal on it? It sounds like they got asked, but I don't even, I don't know what the listing was, what the ask was. So they got full ask and it was like no contingencies, fast closed. Fast close. It's been three years. I know. I know, but I kind of dipped out from a lot of like sandball and all that kind of stuff.

He dipped out. Dipped out, dude. No, is that like, I thought he had wanted to stay in that house. He has for three fucking years. He did. You eventually do want to move to a new house. And then like, you know, he was like, I can, you know, maybe buy it. But I think at the end of the day, Ariad was like, I don't care if you can fucking buy.

You're living in this fucking guys. Exactly. Why would you not get my dream house a little? Why would you want to stay in that house after everything, you know? No, seriously. Is the Raquel lawsuit still going on? I don't know. I wanted to check in on that and see where that was. She's got to let it go.

I heard she's like married and pregnant. Do you know if that's true? I just saw her doing a sound bath the other day. Which by the way, I feel like Amanda Batula, will you be doing sound baths? No one's doing Amanda Patula. Wait, did you guys see that TikTok of someone they're like out in the desert and they're pretending to be Raquel having like Amanda come over? They're like, oh.

Oh, yes, yes, yes. That was so funny. No, but I did see that there was a Jimmy John's ad that Amanda was a bunch of stoners. And it's like, it's really sad that you gave that up because I was really happy when I found out. She was a stoner. Yeah. And she had been able to sort of. Oh, so was Rebecca.

Rebecca was like, oh my God, Amanda just got way cooler. Yeah. Yeah. And then just ruined it by. She could have made a whole line. And like now I'm like, I don't want to smoke your weed. I don't want to. I'm like, this is energy.

Do you ever hear of like a drug saying you're not good for our brand? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Jimmy Johns. was it. It's like March 31st or whatever day the scandal broke. It's like, I wonder what they're thinking. Well, she had multiple brand deals obviously put into place before any of this broke. But I do wonder, like, what was her thought process knowing that she's in this relationship with West, that this will eventually come out? What was her thought process? Because also,

then I question in my mind is that are we doing some sort of like anti-brand branding where at least they're getting interaction of people like hate comments, but at least people are watching it? Or are advertisers? Like, I want to believe. advertisers still want positive press? Well, yeah, I don't think all press is good press necessarily. You know, when it's so much negativity towards the brand and they're like, cancel her, this and that. It's like...

Especially in the comments when people are basically saying Jersey mics, you could do something really funny with this. And so it's like if Sierra was all the side of the Jersey mics' postman, we'd all be buying their sandwiches. That's true. Capitalize on that. I have a feeling we're not going to see Sierra with any kind of sandwich deal. It's going to be something way bigger.

Yeah. Too many sandwich things with Bravo, okay? I know. Also, Lindsay Hubbard's right there with sandwiches. Yeah. Yeah. How many sandwiches? Are we watching Rhode Island?

Hell yes. Okay, who's our favorite? I love them all. I really do. It's a great cast. Liz is great. Joellen is amazing. Alicia is so amazing.

Alicia with her dolls this past episode. Oh my God. Yeah. I like them just for the artistic. I love it. The eyeliner, the lip color. She's just effortlessly funny. And she's like, I ran over.

lady. I know and they're like, excuse me, what do you mean? She goes, I ran her over. That's it. It's a reality show that feels fully formed already. And there's not a, like, usually you have these speed bumps. You're like, oh, they're getting to know each other. And it's like this feels like it's been on for a couple of seasons. It's also, school housewives for sure. It's so great. And it's like Dolores is there as a friend of, but I would even say, you don't need Dolores. You don't. You don't. But she fits and seamlessly. She fits. The twinning aspect of it. I love to see it. When she said she excused herself from the scene and she goes, I need to go get an all natural diet soda. I'm like, why do you say all natural diet soda?

You can't just say a diet soda? Like an all natural diet soda? She must be coming out with a new line of all natural diet soda. But also that that four-person conversation between Joe Ellen, her husband, and Rula and her husband was so awesomely awkward. And where Joe Ellen's husband totally stands up for Joe Ellen. And her husband brought, you know, he's just like, yeah, yeah. She's like, why did you stick up for me? You would take a care of yourself.

She's probably going to say I was at some ditty freakoff party, you know? You probably were at this point. I know, right? Why are you saying that? Were you, sir? And then it ends on this, like, cliffhanger of, like, the girl that's in a sugar-duty relationship. Kelsey might have also been hooking up with Dino, who was the friend of Liz who might have. Sorry, this might not make sense if you haven't watched it.

But go ahead. But I'm just saying it ends on this thing of like, wait, Kelsey has this guy that lives in Miami six months out of the year and provides her with this amazing lifestyle. Then she's dating this new guy, big. because, you know, she wants love and potentially a family. But then at the end, it's like she also might have hooked up with this guy, Dino, who last episode we found out as the best friend of Liz and Liz's husband, but also Liz might have banged. Yeah.

But I thought she said she didn't. She absolutely did it. But she keeps, like, down-dust protest too much. It was an interesting. She even refers to it as an inappropriate relationship because when her husband was basically out of town three weeks out of the month for three years deep sea fishing, he's like, Dino, take care of my wife. Now, it wasn't just checking in to.

fix a few things around the house. They were going out party and getting wasted together. She goes, and I can understand why people would think that. We were going to clubs. I'm like, do you ever, he was sleeping on my house? Like, come over and watch TV, like going out to the clubs. And also, who picks up a, that intense of a hobby that laid in life of deep sea fishing where you're gone three weeks out of four? Yeah. I don't know deep sea fishing, but do you really have to go, like, and she said this was for years? Yeah. And those deep sea fishing boats, I was talking about this with Durinda on the show, like, you're not really, it's not a yacht. It's not like a little, like, fishing boats aren't like the sexies to be on three weeks out of the month, you know?

No. What I love about it is that like there's all of these questions and we're like, oh, good, because this is going to run for multiple seasons. There's so much to discover. Yeah. And because these people have known each other so long, the secrets that are buried between all of them, this is what's going to make the show great and also rip apart some friendships. Yeah.

But it'll be good. And the age gap is interesting. You know, I mean, you've got like 31 to 55. Yeah. It's the biggest gap, I think, on pretty much any franchise. Yeah. Maybe a little bit on Potomac or no, because Ashley, I feel like she's caught up now. Yeah.

Which did you see that Ashley is now like 11 season housewife longer than Nini made it longer than, you know, 10? Like I was shocked to find out. Wow. And she started at like 20 something. Yeah. 24, 27. And she was really young when she started. It's going to be interesting on Potomac next season because Robin's back to see if

Giselle and Robin, you know, because Giselle's leaned on Ashley these past two, you know, two seasons without Robin. So I'm wondering if now Giselle and Robin, we're going to be. we'll go back to making fun of Ashley all the time. She'll be on the outs. And speaking of Ashley's, we've got Ashley I. I will just forever call her Ashley I. Because if you watch The Bachelor, Bachelor in Paradise was Ashley I. It's interesting for those who were like Bachelor Nation fans to now see their story years later play out on a different franchise.

Because you saw, you know, her chasing him so much. And now it seems as if she is the breadwinner, he is really struggling. And it's like, that's a very real and relatable thing. You know, they've got two kids. He's trying to make this business work. She's having to work her ass off. Like, maybe she didn't even want to do the show necessarily, but it's like, well, hey, this is a future.

This is an income. Like, let's do this. Yeah. But I love to see her in just this chapter of life. Because I've been, I've known her, however many years ago she was on the show. Like we met, done each other's podcast and whatnot. Then I remember her telling me when she was moving to her. to Rhode Island. Oh, wow. Did she move just for the show? No, she moved like five years ago,

because he's from there. Yeah, they were just, I think they just wanted a change and we're just kind of over L.A. and we're like, you know, if she's just doing a podcast and whatever, like, they could do that from anywhere. I, I dip in and out of the Bachelor franchise and I knew Ashley I from there, but I didn't watch like Bachelor in Paradise with her, but the Bravo investigator yesterday posted a clip of her on Bachelor in Paradise where she got voted off and then she came back And she was like, I want you to take me back. He was like, yes, okay. And I was like, this is amazing.

But I'm like, you get your man, girl. I mean, she fought for that. And look it. She got her happily ever after. I think this is a successful, like, where they're able to bring someone from another franchise into one. And again, I didn't know her from Bachelor. I don't watch Bachelor. So I'm enjoying watching her.

But I think Bachelor people also like you are excited to see this other side. Right. Well, it's the same thing like Real Housewives of Atlanta. I wasn't familiar with Kay Michelle. Okay. And so I'm, you know, we recap that on today's episode. and K. Michelle, because I'm a huge fan of her on Atlanta

and only two episodes in. But there's another thing of, like, she's already established, but she works really well on Atlanta. Like, the whole last scene was that her ass exploded from, like, illegal injections. I know. Like, this is perfect reality television.

Amazing. I wonder how they cast Rhode Island, like, who they started with. Like, did it start? I thought they said they started. Was it Alicia or Liz? I think it was one. I think it was Liz.

Wasn't it Liz through Dolores? Was it? I don't know. Because I also heard that it. It started through Ashley because she was already kind of someone with the following. But she's like the newbie in Rhode Island. So I'm like, did she have those connections? And it branched off that.

But it's a great lesson, though. It's like if you have a friend group that actually know each other's histories, that's the way to go. Like Rhode Island, it's like I even hear that's not a proper representation of Rhode Island. But it doesn't matter because it's like we're watching people that know each other. No, it's so good. And I was like, am I going to take on another franchise? Am I going to do it? Well, I thought you're about to say, am I going to move to Rhode Island?

And then I was like, am I going to do it? Rock, get ready to lose your phone in Rhode Island, buddy. But I love it. I'm so glad that I did watch it. And I mean, just Kelsey, that whole dynamic, it's so unorthodox and it's so interesting. You know, she's very open about it, which I love.

72 TVs. Like, that's the dream. I know. Crazy. I mean, I was going to ask delicately. Like, could you ever have seen, like, if your life it went a different way, being taken care of by a man, like either of you? No. I mean, I'm not, I just, I don't think I could see it, but I wouldn't mind trying it.

Don't knock until you're trying. I mean, obviously, we know my situation has never been one of that. So I don't know what that's like. Me neither. But I don't know. I've just, I've worked since I was 16 years old. I've always taken care of myself. I can't imagine what that would be like.

I mean, I guess it would be nice. Yeah, asking permission to buy things or needing my, like, I've never. That's the thing, though. I want to have control over my spending. I don't ever want someone telling me like, oh, you can't spend more than this. You can't do this and like having to answer to someone. Hell no. Well, that's Alicia's storyline on Rhode Island too, is that, you know, she has to ask permission

for money and they don't, you know, they, you know, she has no control over anything. I wouldn't marry him either, especially if he's not saying, like, if anything happens, you can have the house for the kids. It's just like you're on your own, figure it out. Like, what kind of shit is that? Yeah. I mean, we all know how relationships on reality TV go. A lot of them don't survive.

So I'm not wishing for that upon any of the Rhode Island Housewives, but. Oh, there's no way rule is going to stay with Brian. You know, there will be. Anyway, where should we go next? All right. Well, per usual, we have so many topics that we don't get to because we just chit chat, which I love. I love having you guys here because it makes it easy.

But let's end on a fun. note before we wrap it up and play a game of would you rather. Okay, we're all going to answer. Would you rather have your situation ship, read your group chat about them, or you have to read theirs about you? Oh, God, I guess I would rather them read the one that I have with my friends about them. Same.

100% same. Yeah. I don't know that I'd want to see what they're saying. No, I don't go on Reddit. I don't love to read. I don't love to read bad things about myself. Call me crazy. Would you rather be ghosted or get a brutally honest closure text?

I don't know. I've been ghosted twice in the last month. Have you already told those stories? Well, I mean, what's the story? They're ghosted. No, I know, but it's just like. Great point. That's the story.

He never heard from again. He never showed up. Yeah. So I guess, yeah, just keep ghosting me. Why not? Yeah, I think I'd maybe rather be ghosted. I think when I was younger, ghosted, if it was now, I, I think,

tell me why. No, I do you think, yeah, what's wrong with me? You'd feel like, oh, that's emotionally mature, you know? I guess it depends what the brutally honest text says. Yeah. Yeah, true. True. Would you rather run into your ex looking your absolute worst or your absolute best,

but they're with someone hotter? My absolute best always. Agreed. Yeah, because that usually doesn't happen. So the best for, that would be amazing. Yeah. It did happen to me once when I, I was with Brock and we ran into Rob and it was the best.

Like, that's how you run into your ex. It was the best. Oh my God. I ran into Penguin and he was, I feel bad. He was tray passing at an event that I was obviously on the red carpet for with Brock. And he comes over and realizes it's me and then Brock has no idea who he is. And he's like, oh, hey man, can I get one of those? And when you come back around, can you like?

He like brings them. Oh, God. And I was like, honey. And then he's like, hey. And I'm like, hi. And Brock's like, oh, you two know each other. And he's like, don't worry, man. I'll go get another tray of sliders.

I'll be right back. And Brock was very nice about it. It was just like, he took the last one and was like, hey, next time you come back around, like come to the big guy first, you know, like he's always eating. And I was like, that's penguin. And he was like, penguin? Like penguin? I was like, yeah.

And he goes, oh shit, well, that's awkward. I'm like, yeah. And you just made it more awkward because now he's going to come back with more food and we have to see him again. What's the lifespan of a penguin? Do we have an update on the penguin that was adopted now? I feel like they live like 99 years. You don't keep track of this penguin?

It was a one year donation adoption. You have to renew it every year. You orphaned the penguin? Oh yeah. Forget about punched the monkey. Forget about punch the monkey. I needed the full Gina Penguin story. I'm going to do a deep dive on the panel.

She is about to get canceled for this. We got a koala instead, okay? Would you rather your partner be best friends with their ex or hate all of your friends? Best friends with ex. Yeah. Best friends with ex. Yeah. There's been times where I've been like good friends with my ex. Brock is working with one of my exes right now.

And his kids are staying at my house for Coachella. Love it. So. I don't know if I'd go that far on what I'd want, but yeah. Well, here's the thing. We dated like 17 years ago. I was 23. He had, he was a single dad, three kids, two baby mamas.

the son from one mom. So the son split time. But the two girls didn't have a relationship with their mom. So he completely raised them on his own. And I got so close with these little girls. Like I was literally doing school drop off, pick up. And so then when we broke up, it was just like, wait, what about the kids? You know, and back then, I think I had a Blackberry. Maybe these are children. They have no devices. There's no social media. I had no way to really keep in touch with them. and then years later, social media comes around, and so I've kept in touch with them. And a couple years ago,

we were going to a Love Actually live show in Beverly Hills, and this was like my favorite movie that I would watch with my ex. And we had just still kind of been friends, and he had sent me a link to tickets for this. He was like, hey, he's like, I know you love this movie as much as I do. Like maybe you and Brock would want to go. And I was like, oh, my God, I'm buying tickets right now.

We both buy tickets at the same time, but you can only pick the section. So obviously I pick section A. I want to be as close as possible. We get there. I told Brock, I was like, oh, just so you know, like my ex, whatever, 17 years ago. Jeff, like, I think he's going to be there with someone.

We end up. We meet up. We're walking to our seats. And all four seats were right by each other. And so Brock is like, look, if you wanted to like go on a date with your ex, you could have just went on a date with your ex. You're going to drag me along. I like you just told three stories of like,

Penguin with Trey Pass. Rob, you were looking great, and Brock was looking great and this. I was like, did you guys ever go out where you don't bump into somebody that you dated? No, and then there was like the max of it all, you know? Oh, yeah. He disappointed my daughter one too many times, so we don't see him anymore. No Apple Watch update for him.

Nope, and I still have his rae bans. He left at my house. But it was so funny. So then after that, we made a joke. We all went to the show together the next year, and now they work together and, like, Brock does some stuff with his production company and the film industry and whatnot. But so funny.

So my sister and his oldest daughter are still really good friends. And then the younger one is staying at my house this weekend. Okay. But I'm like, I love it because I got the kids back. Yes, that's great. Anyway, would you rather have your search history or your intrusive thoughts exposed? Search history. Yeah, search history.

I mean, it's like, it's trash. Yeah, she's weird stuff. It's like Bravo and like it's straight trash. I don't know. I might go intrusive thoughts just so you guys know the fucked up shit that I think about on a daily. But that's what I'm saying. you wouldn't want us to know all the fucked up shit you think on the daily. Well, here's the thing.

Sometimes when I put my intrusive thoughts out loud, I project them onto others, which I'm trying not to do. Prime example, leaving Neon Carnival. We had a very drunk and loud Zach Wickham in the car with us. He was already there, but he was staying at the house with us. So we didn't drive with him there. He drove with us back. And Elaine's friend who was with us, we had, she sat in the third row, which we realized was the VIPC. We thought we were punishing her by putting her in the third row.

she had the VIP seat. So then Brock and our friend Jay, who was driving, get in the front. Me and Elaine are literally pushing each other. Like, no, you're going to go in the middle. You're going to go in the middle. And she's like, Sheena. And she's like, I know what you're doing. I was like, Elaine, I have very intrusive thoughts of me sitting in the middle and going

through the windshield just fucking sit in the middle. And she's like, oh, fine. She gets in the car. And then she realizes she's never seen the side of Zach Wickham before. When he gets drunk and there's music, he's already a loud person. But he likes to make up his own lyrics and sing them. this close to your face where you feel like a light mist coming out of his mouth on your face. I'm dying laughing because she's like, I knew what you were fucking doing.

I wonder Brock left his phone behind. Great way to end it. Yeah. So he's like, I think that when I was trying to like close the thing, he like dropped his phone when he got out. It was a whole thing. Anyway, okay, let's do two more to wrap it up. Would you rather accidentally send a naughty picture to your dad or your boss?

My boss. my dad I don't know I don't know like either I would I think my dad because it's family they still have to lie

I mean how naughty are we talking like a dig pick I've never sent a dick pick in my life I would just so sad like I at least my boss

I feel like is in my age range and would know how to like delete it like that was bad words I feel like my dad just might live on his phone and he wouldn't know how to delete it and then like it sent to know how did it

on Facebook marketplace Would you rather have to be naked at work for an hour or be dropped off two miles from your house while you're naked and have to try to get home? Oh, two miles, because I can pick things up along the way. I don't mind picking up trash. I work at home. I'll do the first. I'm not even naked in the shower. Like, I don't, no way.

Okay, last one, actually. Would you rather accidentally say your ex's name during sex or your partner's best friend's name? X. That makes more sense. Right? Yeah, that's a tough one, but I would... Brock and Rob kind of sound similar. I didn't say Rob.

It's a frog. Get your ears clean. Did you just say Brock and Rob sound the same? No, they don't. She's Eminem right now. He can make it happen. Yeah, I would say the X. Yeah, for sure.

All right, well, to wrap it up, this week's flowers are going to go to the home. Tom and Ariana once shared because it's finally in escrow. So finally, moving on, it's been three years, which it looks wild for something to take this long. But we know how stubborn he can be. Do you think he's going to pay his mom back now? I mean, he's done enough other shows now. He should be able to, you know. I think he did more shows than any of us after this.

Like, Special Forces, Traders, House of Villains, Mass Singer, America's Got Talent. And he's doing that like trivia tour. He's doing a lot of stuff. Yeah. Well, hey, progress is progress. We love to see it. And just to stick on the same lane, you know, for old times sake, let's just give the jacks hole to Tom Sandival. Just for dragging his feet for three years. You know, great freedom. Everybody changes. And you go, and the jackshole goes to Tom Sandival. And he blocked you again. And he blocked me again. And like, what did I do this time? Will you reach out to him to say, why did you block me? No, I'm sure I'll awkwardly run into him sometime, somewhere. But, you know, I mean, just holding this whole situation. over Ariana. It's just, it was way too long, is way overdue in more ways than one.

Oh, no, I was thinking, sorry, real quickly, that Laguna Beach Union. Oh, yeah. I was like, the 20th anniversary of Vanderpump Rules would be 2008, right?

Okay. Shut up. Wait, what? Wouldn't it be? No. No. Oh, 2012. Sorry.

So we started, I was driving over here thinking about this. We filmed our pilot, 2011. We filmed season one, 2012, and we're on air 2013. Okay.

Okay. Because I was like, oh, yeah, 20th. I was like, oh, I bet they'll be a 20th anniversary, like Laguna Beach. There's going to be something. Let's just do a 15. Do we think everyone will show up? Yeah, I think. Everyone.

I mean, Stasi, Ariana. It really depends on where everybody is at in their careers at that point. Oh, you're for first season people. Yeah, for first season people, well, yeah, I think first season people. And if they really made it like a classy event, what really would be an event. Yeah. Will sir even be still open in 2028? TBD.

We'll take place in Vegas. God. All right. Well, thank you all for listening. Thank you, Ryan and Kiki, for joining me in the studio today. Make sure to listen to Kiki Weekdays on Radio Andy's Reality Check. You can find her at The Talk of Shame and catch Ryan's podcast. So Bad It's Good with Ryan Bailey, wherever you listen to your favorite podcast.

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