Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - Farrah Abraham on Finding Agency

Episode Date: September 12, 2025

This week, Scheana and Kiki are joined by “Teen Mom” Farrah Abraham for a raw and unfiltered conversation about reinvention, resilience, and reality TV. Farrah opens up about raising Soph...ia, why she’s stayed tattoo-free, and how reality TV created a “hula hoop of toxicity” in her life. She gets candid about her identity as an adult entertainer, the importance of taking agency over your body, and the stigma survivors of abuse often face. From finding love in brokenness to walking away from toxic shows, Farrah shares how she’s learned to transform pain into strength—while reminding us why you should never become best friends with your production company. Tune in for all the tea! Follow us: @scheana @scheananigans Co-Host: @thetalkofshameGuest: @farrahabrahamPurchase your very own copy of the NYT Best-selling book MY GOOD SIDE at www.mygoodsidebook.com!Episode Sponsors:Get organized, refreshed, and back to routine for way less. Head to Wayfair.com right now to shop all things home.Head to REVOLVE.com/GOODASGOLD, shop my edit, and take 15% off your first order with code GOODASGOLD.Produced by Dear MediaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:00 with Sheena Shea Shea. Hello, everyone, and welcome back to another week of shenanigans. Kiki and I are joined in the studio by a very special guest this week. She's been a storyline, a headline, a headline, and a full-on lightning. but today she's here as herself from teen mom to business builder and boundary setter thank you for being here with us today fair abraham you for having me both of you ladies i really appreciate being here and yeah it's it's a wild time right now no so excited to have you you look absolutely gorgeous thank you how are we doing what brings you into town
Starting point is 00:01:50 oh my goodness so i just actually got offset from subby tmz live with harvey uh-huh and then doing like some TMZ podcast. A lot of TMZ this morning. But it's so good to be back because I actually moved out of Los Angeles. So it's like kind of full circle. But I get to host a after dark, Farah After Dark, TMZ tour. So yeah, so Master P is going to be there with me. And we're going to have a good time. Yeah, I haven't seen Master P in like five years. I did a, he had me on one of his like comedy feature films. So I can't wait to just catch up with everybody. Oh fun. Yeah. Hollywood was a wildest. scary place for me, but now I'm hosting the tour. But when were you in L.A.? Where do you live now?
Starting point is 00:02:32 And when did you live in L.A.? Okay. So I lived in L.A. I think I moved out January 2021 after I got attacked, like viciously. And so yeah, I was just living in like Hollywood, Hollywood Boulevard, always dodging TMZ buses, by the way. And so now it's just fun to, you know, recover a helplight. But I live in Austin, Texas. Okay. And so I went out there for the trauma program. And I just stayed. I love Austin. I mean, Austin is entertainment too. Yeah. So it's just nice. I love it. My husband has never been, but that's where he wants to live. Oh, okay. Yeah. I mean, yeah, I love Austin. It can feel very tiny at times. So like my daughter, even right now, Sophia, she's just like, I think we need to move to Dallas. Like, you need a bigger place. And like coming from Iowa,
Starting point is 00:03:21 I was born and raised in Iowa, Midwest. And I feel like sometimes I can only stay so long in a smaller city. But yeah, it's wild. It's a wild time moving around and you get to have all these choices of where to live. Yeah. Oh my God. And Sophia, she's 16 now. Is she driving? Yes, she's driving. She's gone through two cars and. Wait, like not crashes. She's not crashes, thank God. But she has damaged her own cars. And I just, I say, well, you know, I went through cars too. Yeah. I didn't even have a girl and I gave up to her. Yeah. So it was, so it's just been 16. It's just been 16 and it's wonderful. I can't say enough. I love the teen years. I just think of myself being a teen. So I got nothing bad to say about
Starting point is 00:04:10 teenagers. I was curious what you thought of because you know that it was going viral that Kim Kardashian in Northwest, there was like a picture she had a dermal piercing under her finger and everybody was flipping out that this 12 year old. Yeah, like between her fingers here. Oh, the knuckle. Yeah. And like people were freaking out like, oh my God, she's only. 12, but Sophia, you, when did she start getting piercings? So, speaking of piercings, she's, she's trying to peer pressure me into more. Oh, really? So she's trying to get tattoos.
Starting point is 00:04:37 No, so here's the thing. I actually got, okay, so to answer the question, Mrs. Sophia did get her first, like, piercings and like, you know, snake bites and all this other stuff. She started that, I think, like, at 13. Okay. Which I thought was wild because I never even thought of getting piercing. like belly ring piercing all my girlfriend's at 15 we're like oh we need to all go together you know I'm just a public school girl and so that is why I got my belly ring pierced the first time
Starting point is 00:05:07 and that was 15 with my dad there and nobody in the family was for that and then my daughter is just like super artsy super creative is like this is what I know I want and she like yeah so she's having me right now like filter out tattoo artist. Oh, okay. Because she started drawing her tattoos on her. And I was like, okay, we need to stop using ink and like stop this. I'm like, what are you trying to get from me? But yeah, she's she wants her belly ring after she gets her belly tattoos. And I'm like, huh, why like that? But, um, this is Sophia's prerogative. So I just say, you know, you guys, to do your research tattoos don't last forever we know what they look like when we're older you can get them reversed you can get them taken off there's a lot of care and i just want her to be super
Starting point is 00:06:04 educated and super for sure before she walks down any piercing or tattoo line you know so oh yeah but yeah i love that she's her own self you know i love that i sat at a tattoo parlor many a nights many a days and i had so many offers for just figure out a tattoo you want like we'll give you whatever you want, you know? And I never went through with a tattoo. You never did. Still none. Still none. Oh, wow. Ladies and gentlemen. That's rare. Oh, my gosh. I can't even count how many I have. Like, I don't know. I think because of my like ADHD and attentiveness, like, I, like, I just don't, sometimes I don't even like looking like myself. Like, if someone thinks of Farah in one way, I like to totally, like, look like Farah in a different way. And I think, like, if I have tattoos,
Starting point is 00:06:50 it's just always you're going to recognize it. I mean, I think because I have, this like birth mark on my neck everybody has always mentioned that since i've been little it's like i just don't like a mark because i have this a birth mark and so i think yeah tattoos and marks me and that yeah okay so you're back on tv now tv time a and e's new docu series secrets of celebrity sex tapes which premiered this week why was this the right time and project to return to tv for you yeah I think this was the right project and the right timing. I didn't choose the timing. So I wasn't self-willing it. It just is what it is. It's an alignment. And so, yeah, A&E chose to do this. It was nothing that I sought out. I was kind of like trying to not work for two years when this popped up. And you know what I realized from going on to that set and then getting this interview done and like leaving this set is that I knew inherently because I was, I know like my coaches or like people who are guiding me in my life are like you need a step back and you know maybe this isn't for you anymore uh television and i left there knowing innately
Starting point is 00:08:04 tv is for me i love tv there is a reason that i'm supposed to be doing television and if that's to impact people's lives help women on their journeys or men on their journeys somehow some way i need to share my life so yeah i think any secrets of celebrity sex tapes there is no better time for this because I never got to sit down and think of, you know, like self-compassion and insecurities, all of these things that have really been happening and like, they call like a hula hoop at like a trauma center, but your family and your base of life. And we go through all these layers of, you know, like how we create our own mindsets and our brains and how these things happen. And I think a lot of the time, like, again, people love to sensationalize
Starting point is 00:08:52 a sex life and not actually see it as, whoa, what is really lying underneath of why someone would feel okay to do something or why they choose what they choose in their business, in their personal life, what's really going on with them? And I love that they sat down and they did that. Yeah. If you don't sit down and dive deep into something, you will really never know. Absolutely. Yeah. I love the reason why you said you love doing TV. Because I completely align with that and it's nice to hear someone else say that that's why they like doing it you know some people who i've been on a show with they enjoy the fight they enjoy like that gets them off and i'm like no i like to share my experiences to help other women feel less alone and all
Starting point is 00:09:38 of that so i really i love that the women journey it can go lonely at many of times you know and did you feel that way i mean when you obviously when 16 pregnant came along were you already having that thoughts like I want to share this because like I want to be able to like help other teenage girls who might be in this position or I do not got into that place yet. Oh yeah. If you guys see my casting tape, they have those online. The 16 and pregnant casting tapes. I specifically say I am sharing my life so others know like no matter what they go through, they can make it. They can make something of their lives. They can get through hurdles or anything. And I still live by that same message today and I think that is like in your life you you feel like you're fearless but then you get
Starting point is 00:10:22 things that will literally knock you off your course of what you think you're going to go live and can you pick yourself back up every time and start over and keep going towards like your best self whatever that looks like for everyone and I have done that and it's like a promise to myself that it's you know sometimes people let themselves down they're like oh I can't I can't do this or, you know, we blame something, this and that. And I, like, I feel like that has helped me very accountable. And also, right, the fun competition of having other peers on a TV show who say they're going to do the same thing and then they don't.
Starting point is 00:10:58 But I feel like that has been always top of mind. And I have to say 16 years later from making that casting tape to now. Yeah. And what I've lived through and still feeling like I'm in one of my primes. my life, that is, I'm always amazed. Like I'm sitting down now doing a memoir book over it. And I am always amazed by the girl or the woman that I have become. And I think everyone should get to reflect on their times of their lives, men, women, young girls, young boys. It is amazing what you will go through in this big life. And that's why I think sharing it is like a serious,
Starting point is 00:11:39 a serious thing. And like, everybody's like, oh, I haven't lived life. I haven't done this. I shouldn't be able to share. I think no matter where you are, you should write a book, no matter where you're at, you should just share your life. You should go on live, have like an Instagram group or a Zoom or a Discord because you don't know who you can actually really help. So I love that. And I am so blessed that I did that.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Wow. I love all of that. Seriously. I feel like you've done like, have you done like a lot of self help over the years you were talking about? You did this like, is it a 12 step trauma program? Yeah. Intensive.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Yeah. Intensive healing. Maconopath. Shout up to them. And yeah, so it is based in 12 steps. I think a lot of people, though, when I say 12 steps, sadly, they only think of like alcoholics anonymous. And I want to just say 12 steps, like with Tony Robbins or Brunay Browns, they all went to 12-step
Starting point is 00:12:27 programs. And what they did was in formulaized it into apps, books, programs. And you do that for, you know, food eating disorders, coke disorders, focus. If you have time management, everything of success is based off of the 12-step principles. so please do not hinder yourself by thinking it's for one thing. And I think that like that's a sad education or the miseducation is it's only for one thing. But yeah, I've been teaching my daughter all these good things too. And I really hope that she has a better life. Yeah. That's amazing. Seriously, I'm like I'm obsessed with everything you just said. It's like the reason why I wrote a book.
Starting point is 00:13:05 And I agree. So having agency over your own narrative and putting it out there like good for you. I can't wait to read it. Yeah. I think that's what I also loved about like the A&E, Secrets of Celebrity Sex tapes. It was that it was the finding of your agency. I felt like I was so, because people were like, oh my God, it was planned, right? They always think like everything is planned in your life or some of my cast members are like in disbelief that something horrendous happened to me, but because I made it out a good thing, something bad didn't happen to me. And I think like finding my agency was, I guess the whole synergy of the Secrets of Celebrity Sex Tape is how all these layers helped me find my agency and speak up when other people would say or do things
Starting point is 00:13:53 around me trying to control my narrative, which is non-consensual. It's like very rapy vibes. And I think finding that agency and fighting through whether it was a crew, my family, just odd different people along my journey here with smear campaigns about my career and my life, finding your agency, if that's one thing you get from this podcast, is that and that show. So yes. Yeah, I love that. Do people like meet you now and like they say like, God, I had such a different impression of you because like, no, it's so funny because it's like like when you think about like how you were, I guess, portrayed on like teen mom and all of those things, but when I look back, I'm kind of like, okay, well, she's the one that only has one kid. She has a lot
Starting point is 00:14:36 of businesses. She's financially stable. You were financially stable even on team mommy. You were opening up yogurt, like all of these things. Anything. I was very entrepreneurial. And like a lot of them didn't turn out like that. I mean, it's just interesting sort of. Yeah, it is very interesting. It's like a good case study. Yeah. That's what I really love about looking back. What was the question? Sorry. Did people come to you now? No, did people come up to you now? And they say like, God, I had such a different impression. You were just so different than like what I thought you would be. You know what is great about that. Even my attorneys. Like when I flew in one time, recently for a court thing, my attorney who I had represent me was like, oh my God, you're actually
Starting point is 00:15:12 really pretty. Like I get that. Like such a backhandic compliment. Yeah, I'm like, wow, I hear that so often, if not all the time every day. But I also, like I was in bath and body works with my or was the bathroom body? I don't even know. We're buying candles and getting soaps and it smells good, whatever that store is. But like some of the girls will be like, oh my God, you have come a long way. And I think like that is the beauty of sharing the story. You see a transformation, right? People buy like digital marketing. I'm getting, I'm finally graduating in my master's with that. But it's everyone wants to understand a transformation. Why people buy things online for me, whether it's mentoring or packaging or anything. It's, they know, they know that this
Starting point is 00:15:56 girl has shown her transformation and she knows how to get from the lowest of the low time. whatever your low is, to the highest of your prime, and then, like, keep going and reinventing yourself and doing it for someone else, even my daughter. So I think, like, transformation is key to see. And I think people should not shy away from that. I think a lot of, like, me growing up and being raised, how I was raised in Iowa was you go work for the same person your entire life and you retire that way. And that actually did a big disservice in a lot of my family's lives and their successes, but I love them because they showed me hard work ethic. To me, it's harder to go to work, do the same thing every day repetitively for like, I don't know, God only knows,
Starting point is 00:16:42 50 years. And that's it. That is so hard for me to do because I am that entrepreneurial, like, I want to make a concept, I want to sell it, and then I want to move on and I want to keep doing something else, more, more, more. And I think that's why I kept leaving the show or being totally fine with leaving the show. And I think in this world of adulting, I am doing better in the adulting arena because I don't know, like my independence, my agency, I was not going to let anyone steal that away from me. And I think if you weren't a teen mom or if you didn't have these struggles that I had, there is still something in someone's life. Like whether you're like I always relate this to like my girlfriends who are in a marriage. And for instance, if you happen to choose
Starting point is 00:17:29 a wrong person, but if you happen to choose the right person, it's awesome. I just happen to still be dating. So when I'm picking, it's just like if I, if I don't fully see what I'm getting myself into, and I think that was a lot of like my early years, I wasn't seeing who I was around. I couldn't pay attention to it. I was still very much in trauma state and bereavement and loss. And now that I get to see it fully, I can honestly choose better men. So like I used to just go to like, I don't even know a dating show and I wouldn't know their background and they'd be like okay this is great you guys are now dating showman's vibes but then this person is broke they asked me to find love and brokeness and it sets me up as a foundational woman who is trying to like build an empire to go broke
Starting point is 00:18:17 I feel like that is the key concept of like let's see what we've learned in a transformation and let's just try to elevate your life I mean it hurts my heart to see other women find love in brokenness. Because I know, I know, I've been there. And then you have to dig yourself out of it. And it's hard. It's so hard. So shout it to everyone who's going through their transformations. Yes, absolutely. And on that note, we're going to take a quick little break and we'll be right back. Okay. Okay. So you guys know how much I love shopping on Wayfair for everything home. I am obsessed. I have just made more purchases from Wayfair because there's just always something new to add to my house. Recently, I got some really cute fake accent flowers just to, you know,
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Starting point is 00:22:21 public eye, you know, brings up its own unique challenges. Yeah. People criticize Every decision we make, you know, they judge, you show your kid too much. You're exposing them. You haven't showed your kid in a while. What's going on? It's just like you're an absent parent. You're never with your kid. Wrong parenting choices. You should have done it this way. You know, the list goes on and on. And you've been doing this as a single mom the whole time, which is extremely impressive. But on those early seasons of teen mom, we of course saw your mom, Deborah, you know, being quite involved. What is your support system? look like these days. Yeah, I have no support system. I actually don't talk to them. And I think that that is what I highly recognized was television was keeping me in a hula hoop of toxicness that is not good for my parenting, for me to grow up, for me to learn things real world. And once I got fired, which looked like a horrible thing, it actually enabled me to have freedom. And I basically like rolled up my stores, all the stores that I had. I rolled up the house that I had. I put everything in storage. And I just took my daughter like she was doing
Starting point is 00:23:40 homeschooling. I was probably doing an online school program myself. And we just traveled. And I think I needed to get back to what is healthy. I needed to go immerse myself in that and it has not been easy. So I can't say a lot of us can just go shut off our families. Right. I know a lot of people don't do that. And I just know agency. Again, if you don't have your own agency and you keep letting your family who raised you that didn't really, I don't know, we raised people, but there's a difference, I feel like there is a very big difference in parenting today than parenting as I grew up. as I was raised. So when anyone has anything, anything ever to say to me, whether it was a man or a woman, if you have not truly seen everything that I have done for self-development and then child
Starting point is 00:24:37 development that has gone far beyond my parents, then there's no words. There's no words that could even hit my ears that even matter. And I think like that's a big thing in parenting. So I'm breaking cycles. There's not one thing that is the same from my parents to myself. I'm not concerned about my child getting pregnant at 16. I was definitely put in like an incubator of teen pregnancy is what I look back and I call that. And I think a fun fact of like our society is we have a feature in our society because we don't have laws that include contraception prevention. And so I've been a huge advocate of that, hopefully get a new law in place for that. But my daughter very much sees how I was raised and how great she is raised. And so I love her for that. She is that
Starting point is 00:25:31 mirror. She is that reminder of we are in a different life because sometimes you get so traumatized as a human from your childhood. You're going to be like, oh, oh, like everything freaks you out. Yeah. And that's what a lot of my friends and my parents feel like they feel freaked out. And I just know, like, keeping at bay the parents back helps me know, like, this is where I am presently, this is how good life is. And I am not going back to anything. And I'm not regurgitating that or making my child go through the same thing I did. That is a waste of time. Yeah. Breaking the generational cycle. So, so important. I was like curious. Yeah. Because like, were you, like, really shelter? Because it seems like obviously you and Sophia have a very transparent relationship.
Starting point is 00:26:16 Yeah. So how did, like, you just kind of like taught that on your own? Because it, obviously, Which wasn't something that you, like, learned growing up. Yeah. I learned a lot about my family when I, it was just, you know, so you couldn't ignore how famous I was. And I learned a lot of inner family secrets. And it was from other extended children in the family. So I didn't have a clear view of who I was raised with until I was super famous.
Starting point is 00:26:43 And I think you wonder things as a child. You're trying to find words. And like, again, I learned the most words to kind of like articulate what I feel and what I see today at a trauma program. Wow. And I think most of us don't learn the words, our feelings to be in touch, to have agency from our family dynamics, sadly. And so when someone feels like they could judge or say anything about parenting, I think it's like, well, do you want me to wake everybody up and with the honest to God truth? because I am one of the best parents I've ever seen in my life. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:20 Yeah. And I think, you know, obviously people, you know, judged you because then you decided to get into the adult entertainment industry and they would say, like, how does that impress upon your child? Like, when did you feel like you had to have conversations or when did you start having conversations about Sophia? Or do you even having conversations about, like, you know, I made these choices and like, but it was the right thing for me or like, you know, raising a daughter, it has to be
Starting point is 00:27:42 hard. Yeah. I think that's a very important point that you've raised. up adult entertainment. So some, some reporters notice this, but one of the top things that I get requested on adult entertainment sites is almost basically the same pose of which women are giving birth. That was on 16 and pregnant for everyone to see me in maybe a sexualized position. And I think we need to just go back to what was going on, not isolate. Oh, Farah decided something. I actually didn't decide that for my life.
Starting point is 00:28:16 That put me in a very, like a lot of people put me in a very bad situation. Again, I made something or the best I could out of it. Again, Annie, Secrets of Celebrity Sex Tips is diving in on it. But I never decided to be a part of adult entertainment. When you are famous or like if you have some of your, I guess, intimate moments out on national networks already from 16 and pregnant. You can't put a genie back in the bottle. You can't, if you have a public status, if you have anything, same way with, like, court issues that I'm going with right now about consent culture and, like, non-consent culture, there are things that you can put back in a bottle and there are things that are just like, this is who the person is. For me, we obviously saw that I did not do a big grand press announcement that I changed my career.
Starting point is 00:29:06 You can have smear campaigns that try to ruin your career. So, yeah, like, again, I am such a TV person. personality, like even with comedy and stand-up now that I do, I feel more comfortable just like writing it, go performing it, recording it for a special, then I do getting up on stage and just, you know, doing it for a small audience. So I think I'm always fair Abraham TV, but I do always note that people think or impression upon me that I chose something. I very much rode with a wave of a lot of things. And again, finding your agency, you put a full stop to whatever anyone assinuates that is not you. So my daughter very much knows her mom.
Starting point is 00:29:48 Yeah. My daughter knows her mom like nobody's business. So I don't ever worry about my daughter being 18 like a little Tay and going and doing it only fans. My daughter knows that I am so successful in that arena as a sex icon that that is just part of that's part of what it is. That's what the world has put on her mom's identity, but that is not her mom's identity. it is just something that lives out there
Starting point is 00:30:13 like my daughter will not even do footfinder like my daughter will never be in the same position than I was because of her just seeing full on how hard I had a fight to take control over myself from someone trying to ruin my career by saying there is a porn star
Starting point is 00:30:30 and that and that manager and again the the pornster who I had that intimate situation with again they were exed out of my life and if anyone was trying to plot that put me in that space and put that on me like they were Xed out completely of my life and it turned into a legal thing so yeah fight for your agency and if adult entertainment happens to you like
Starting point is 00:30:54 there are ways to get things down we have AI we have attorneys and if no one's listening to you have to stand in your own agency I sadly some people kill themselves over adult stuff that leaks online and I just speak on that because let nobody bully you over your body like it is your body find that agency it may take years it may take time some people will never see it but that is not a you issue that is a world's issue yeah yeah good for you powerful because no like and like i don't think people realize that like you say like it wasn't my choice and i don't think people understand like you just get somehow pressured into doing these things that you are again riding the wave because you think that's what you're supposed to be doing or
Starting point is 00:31:40 you have to do in order to stay in a certain place and it's i don't know i just had a situation where it wasn't something of me or like whatever it was like blackmail i almost felt like severely blackmail like you say like when someone makes something out to be so innocent like oh fair you haven't had sex or you haven't done this and they use like your mom's horrible relationship to you know coerce you all of these illegal things right because you are famous just know there is no no perfect way to live through something and you're living through it like you are the crime scene and i have to just say again when we talk about taking agency nothing will be perfect but how are we going to turn this horrible situation of someone basically blackmailing you like this is to the
Starting point is 00:32:26 extent two-facedness when someone says oh i respect your privacy i'm totally here for you like this is our own thing they leave from being seen with you and then they go make their own press conference about something that they never consented with you about. It's like very rapy vibes. So what I say is that's not something I chose. I never allowed anyone to do that to me. I didn't approve of that to be done to me. So again, like, whatever people insinuate or think, this stuff happens to people every day. People blackmail people, people do unconsensual things every day. People don't know how to get control over their own sex line. So, again, like, I can only, like, praise secrets of celebrity sex tapes and, like, breaking that down wholeheartedly to whatever extent we could legally.
Starting point is 00:33:19 But yes. Wow. Yeah. Speaking of legal, I know this is. Speaking of legal, I'm going into law. No, this is something I didn't remember until we were prepping for this episode. And, I mean, I was just floored going back to it. And if you don't want to talk about it, it's totally fine.
Starting point is 00:33:38 Okay. But back in 2021, you filed a police report accusing a politician of drugging and sexually assaulting you. Yeah, I'm still, I have a seven-day trial for that next July. Come and watch, Gina. Yeah, I mean, Kiki loves to go to a trial. I do love a trial. I do.
Starting point is 00:33:55 First of all, I want to. I do. I do. But, I mean, first I want to say, you know, obviously, I'm so sorry that that happened to you. That must have been so scary, especially knowing it's like a government figure. So I applaud you for having the strengths to come forward. That is not something that is easy to do.
Starting point is 00:34:13 But I think you speaking out about that, you've definitely made it easier for other victims to come forward. So I think that is incredible. And this man resigned hours after your report surfaced. And since then, I think it was like 15 other women have come forward with similar claims. Unfortunately, I guess the California Attorney General said they don't have enough evidence to warrant filing charges on the cases. is not barred by the statute of limitations. Are you able to discuss where things currently are, or is this where we have to go to court and see?
Starting point is 00:34:48 I will say, I look forward to the day of court. I showed up for a press conference for this, and you guys can see it on YouTube or anywhere. I did not know. I thought I would be so strong and I would show up and I could talk so easily about this. And I think today I can probably talk a little easier, but it's because I continue.
Starting point is 00:35:08 to do trauma therapy. So I've been a big advocate and talker on ketamine therapy. So if you are going through trauma, if you are experiencing like sexual violence of any sort that's non-consensual, I highly believe in ketamine treatment. But I will say I don't, I don't feel like talking about everything because I still have to go to court obviously. But again, like with a lot of my legal things, there is only so much at certain times that can be allotted. And it's there's no fault of Farah, Abraham. I will tell you that. But there are even my own legal teams or even other people that I have to work with. There's a lot of not seeing eye to eye. And that's sad for rape victims. And if anyone can get through a lot of hard times, it's me. So you will see Farah will win and
Starting point is 00:35:57 Farah will be up on top. And I do feel like that is important to say because a lot of the victims are disheartened. They don't have enough proof. They don't have this, that, or the other. again, it's hard being a crime scene. It is hard, hard being a crime scene. It's hard going to a rape victim center doing a rape kid on your own. It's hard going against your friends who say, oh, they feel bad for the rapist family
Starting point is 00:36:20 and you go and you do the right thing. It's hard when your family doesn't know what to do because they've allowed non-consensual, illegal sexual acts. They didn't know how to behave. It is hard when you are that person who thinks it will never happen to you and people disarm you in every way
Starting point is 00:36:40 and they do illegal things to you. So I think that is all that really needs to be said here. And when you get to go see it in trial and you get to go see how our society behaves, you know what to do and change the future. And I think that's all I can do is invite people to watch something, know and learn from me,
Starting point is 00:37:01 know and learn from others who weren't successful and make sure that you change your future because I would hope that we don't keep continuing, like, with Russell Brand. Like, so a lot of people just keep letting these people go, hide behind women, have children, say they've never assaulted people. And I feel like woman abuse is at such a high level. People don't recognize it. And my therapist and my success team has just peeled all that back.
Starting point is 00:37:29 So I will never be around people of that nature ever again. And I'm just so grateful to see that. So, yeah, I highly encourage people to watch to read, be all in the true crime watching this. I know that's odd, but that's the only way you can learn like I did. I was like, how long has this been going on? Yeah. And honestly, I was one of the last victims who came forward publicly on this matter, but it had been going on for over 20 years.
Starting point is 00:37:57 Wow. And I think when I have to go to a press conference and talk about something that I never thought I'd have to talk about, you just kind of feel like this has been going on for 20 years before I got sexually assaulted. What has a world been doing? Yeah. You know? And I think like that is the saddest thing I can get out of being sexually assaulted is like, and the point of it is what can I do to change this? You know, people in law have been sexually assaulted that are a part of this.
Starting point is 00:38:35 girlfriends of the person were, I guess, assaulted for like three years. I have had the most mind-blowing open realizations about sexual assaults and non-consensualness in our society, but I definitely know how to pinpoint, how to change it now. That's why I'm going to law school. I'm going to law school starting next year, finishing my, yeah. Congrats. That's amazing. I got my paralegal certification, which took so long.
Starting point is 00:39:03 but it's like I know I am so excited to advocate not only in like consent culture and helping women so we don't have more Farah Abraham's being raped right but like I just overall want to shorten that like let's not wait 20 years let's wait two years statutes of limitations and I know like Los Angeles they've gotten better laws over this time I've been waiting to go to trial for sexual assault victims I'm just so grateful for those little steps but I know like my future and my life is really full of advocacy and change. And that is to heal from trauma and be able to go back in in spite of all that negative and toxicity and lies and abuse. That is the power that I hope people can get by watching trials or trauma work or just being a true crime
Starting point is 00:39:55 watcher of all. Because yeah, I used to watch true crime. And then sadly, it's like, oh my God, this is like in my life. And we're getting ready to do like a true crime special on it. And that has just been insightful. So again, I try not to run from all this darkness that is our world, sadly. And I think, yeah, I was very shielded from that maybe growing up. And I wish my family would have talked to me more before I experienced an assault of this kind. So yeah, I hope I've changed that in some way for my daughter. And she will not. find herself being too kind and being around the wrong people. So yeah. Well, I'm sure you will prevent that. I can't imagine anyone would try to like kiss you off or get in the way of you.
Starting point is 00:40:41 I'm coming with a mom a bear. I'll come to the law with it. But yes. Yeah. You mentioned a little bit earlier, the 12 step trauma therapy that you went through. Can you tell us a little bit about that experience and how you maintain your mental health today? Yes. So today from 12 step, my 12 step trauma experience intensive healing. I have an inventory, a nightly inventory that I have in like my bathroom or on my phone or in my bag. And I just kind of go through that so I can get out resentments. I think that's the biggest thing I could say is having an inventory, get out those resentments. So you do have court or if you do have a hard thing at school or if you have something hard at work, there is no resentment. You can think clearly kind of like, let's take
Starting point is 00:41:25 down the emotions so we can get your point across and move on from stuff. up. So I love that every day. Yeah, absolutely. I want to wrap it up with a few final rapid fire questions. What advice would you give a teen on reality TV today? Never become best friends with a production company and you'll be straight. Oh, yeah. Okay. That's good advice for even us, adults. Love it. If someone only listens to this last minute, what do you want them to hear? never forget your agency stay close to your heart your inner child and do not lose sight of that that is your power everything is within you you need nothing outside of you that's it i love that which project made you feel true creative control for the first time
Starting point is 00:42:19 i haven't had that yet your memoir oh yeah it's coming oh yeah the memoirs obviously the new york times with selling a book, obviously. Yes. And I'm so proud of that. But I also want to do like a book adaptation, like a film. I want to win an Oscar. I think those will be like the height of the memoir coming alive. Mm-hmm. I love that. One business win you're proud of and one lesson from a misstep. One business lesson I'm proud of is relying more on AI. My Joy AI, my telegram my I, my doppelganger accounts, like, where it's faceless, I don't even work. I just make passive money. AI for life, digital marketing queen. So can't say enough of that. And then something that I learned. One lesson from a misstep. One lesson from a misstep, being a brick and mortar
Starting point is 00:43:10 owner of something like in person. And even with cameras and lawyers and all this stuff, your employees will attack you no matter what, even if you gave them pay advances and you're the best boss. So that was my business misstep that I learned a lot from of being a brick and mortar owner. Okay. A deal you regret saying yes to and what would you do differently now? You know, I can't even think of any business deal I regret. That's good. Again, I always just try to make something out of a negative, you know, positive. I try to do the best that I can. and I'm just grateful that I have all these contracts from all this business that I've done because I need that in my law program. So there's nothing. Yeah. Yeah. We've got our own Kim Kardashian
Starting point is 00:44:00 right here. I think. I'm going to be calling you up on Zoom. You know, I have a fair AI life coach. She's available 24-7. Girl, I'm already there. I'm also using AI in my law firm if I ever have one. But yes. Amazing. I mean, that is the future. Yeah. You know? We're here. Yeah. I've got my daughter. She'll take my husband's phone and be like, hey, chat like tell me about the Milky Way and she learned so much who needs teachers yeah right yeah that's another thing I wanted to just quickly ask you about okay so what what made you make the decision to homeschool your daughter yeah um the point of when she was in some of these schools or whatever kind of schools it was talking about boyfriends and girlfriends the teachers kind of control it there was again
Starting point is 00:44:45 introduction to gas lighting which is abuse mental abuse and so teachers would blame things. They want to take care of the bullies, those things. All those things shape your children's brain. And if you let that go so long, they get okay with more and more abuse, right? It's a very bad word. But that's how you groom people. And so I saw that and I saw her breaking down and getting upset and sad about that. I wasn't going to have her go through what I went through, which made me strong. Like, I'm pretty fierce because of all that abuse. But my daughter will sometimes feel like I'm being a bully because I've had to be so strong. So I think that's why I took my daughter out of that.
Starting point is 00:45:23 And so she can keep her softness. And that's what I love so much about where she is now as a homeschooled child. So or adult. Yeah. At what age did you pull her out of school? Yeah. She was pulled out of school in first grade. So like almost like seven.
Starting point is 00:45:41 I know Brock is trying to. Because right now what we're applying to the private schools and stuff, we'll get her in for kindergarten. He really wants to homeschool. And so I'm like, it's made the world of difference. I'm going to be asking you for advice in about a year on that. And relationships and how she chooses things. I am just so grateful that my child's more advanced than I was in the right direction.
Starting point is 00:46:03 So God bless her. Yeah, absolutely. Last question. Is there a boundary you enforce that costs you a job or relationship, but you'd still do it again? Yeah. I play with this boundary every day. If you make me do more work and if you say you're a manager or this or that, you have a job, job title. And then you put more on me and you don't do your job. I have a strict boundary like
Starting point is 00:46:24 today I had to say it. If you don't do the wire, if you want me to do more stuff and I've sent everything, then I'm going to have to turn away. So yeah, I turn away money nonstop because I am staying true to my boundary. When people make me do more, I don't do anymore. I do the professional what's needed. And if you need to be unprofessional, that's on you. Bye. Yes. These are all of the things I needed to hear today. I know. I love it. I want to make this work and do this. No, I think it was manifested. I think it was serendipitous. Thank you for having me. Yeah. That is the word of the podcast. Agency. And now I'm going to go watch the secret lives of, what is it? The secret lives of sex
Starting point is 00:47:02 tapes. I've got to watch it now. It's a little true crimey. So, check it out. I love it. Um, on this podcast, we always name a jack's hole at the end of it. Is there anyone? Jack's hole? Like Wyoming? Like a jackass. Geez, where do I be getting? Gosh, I don't want to just name one. They would actually love that I call them that. Yeah, there's so many. You know who you are.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Yes, you do. Yes. Well, thank you guys all for listening. Thank you, Farah. Thank you for joining us today. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Yes, you can catch her on A&E's new docu-series Secrets of Celebrity Sex tapes and follow along with her journey online at Farah, Abraham.
Starting point is 00:47:41 And if you haven't already gotten a copy of my memoir, My Goodside, My Goodside Book.com. New York Times bestseller. God bless that good side. Can't wait. Thank you so much. This is great. Bye, y'all. Bye, everyone.
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