Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - Good as Gold(en Globes)

Episode Date: January 17, 2025

This week, Ryan Bailey is back in the studio with Scheana, and they are breaking down all of their favorite moments from the Golden Globes. Who did they feel had High Body Count Hair, and why did Demi Moore’s acceptance speech resonate with Scheana so much? Plus, Ryan reveals who from the VPR cast got the best marks in acting class. Who does he say was “not as funny as he thinks he is?” Plus, Scheana spills some insider tea on the process for selecting interview looks for reality TV confessionals, shares her worst Red Carpet moment, and explains how Bob Dylan played a part in the unraveling of her first marriage?! Tune in to find out! Follow us: @scheana @scheananigans Co-Host: @sobaditsgoodwithryanbailey The video version of this episode will be available on Scheana’s YouTube page on Friday, January 17th, 2025.  DISCLAIMER: This episode was recorded prior to the devastating wildfires across the Los Angeles community. If you would like to help support relief efforts, please see links to aid organizations below: American Red Cross of Greater Los Angeles California Community Foundation  California Fire Foundation  LA Fire Department Foundation Pasadena Humane Society Ventura County Community Foundation The Center for Disaster Philanthropy's California Wildfires Recovery FundThe Entertainment Industry Foundation's Defy:Disaster ProgramDirect ReliefTeam Rubicon World Central Kitchen Episode Sponsors:Stay focused on what’s important to you with Noom’s psychology and biology based approach. Sign up for your trial today at Noom.com.Head to acorns.com/goodasgold or download the Acorns app to start saving and investing for your future today! Right now, ShipSkis is offering our listeners 20% off your first shipment when you go to Shipskis.com and use the code GOODASGOLDProduced by Dear MediaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The following podcast is a Dear Media production. This episode of Shenanigans was also recorded prior to the devastating wildfires in Los Angeles. I again debated on putting out new content this week and I haven't been ready to get back into the studio to record anything new. So since we already had this episode banked, I figured I would put this out as I do have listeners all over the world. But I just want to emphasize that my thoughts and prayers are with everyone in Los Angeles who is experiencing such a tragic loss. I will be back next week in studio with

Ryan and Kiki with an all new episode. But until then, I will again be putting resources in the podcast description of how you can help those in need. From Vanderpump rules to motherhood and everywhere in between. Warm up the kettle, it's time to spill some tea. Let's get into some shenanigans with Sheena Shay. Hello, hello everyone. Welcome back for another week of shenanigans. Today I have Jax Taylor post no sir.

Oh, sorry. Ryan Bailey post nasal surgery out of his recovery bed. But first a lot has gone down this week. So let's get into it all. Happy 2025 to you and your audience. I can't believe we've made it. I do sound like Jax Taylor in earlier seasons of Vanderpump Rules. It's a sinus surgery that I got.

Everything is okay. It just sounds like I'm underwater. So not a nose job. No, I actually like my nose. I would get so many things done before my nose. Like lipo, so many things, but I like my nose. I like your nose too, you got a good nose. Can I put that on LinkedIn?

Sheena likes my nose. Yes. But how has the recovery been, healing process, all of that? It really sucked. Like they said it would be like three or four days of like pain, but I thought, oh, it won't be anything. But it really was bad.

It had light sensitivity issues. So I couldn't really look at my phone or TV, which is like my life. Oh yeah, that's like my lifeblood. And then like about four days in, I was just like, maybe this was a mistake. It started getting better about a day and a half ago. I get my stents out tomorrow.

There's like two tubes in my nose, but it's just been intense. So I don't know like if it worked, but I was getting sick every month last year and they said I had a huge blockage and I just sucked because I worked so much on the podcast and it just kind of affected things. So they roto-rudered my whole sinuses.

So we'll see. Yeah, I feel like it's one of those things where there's never gonna be a good time to have the surgery. Well, then they were like, well, you'll be on pain medicine and that sounded like fun, but it wasn't the kind of fun like pain medicine.

It was like in pain where you need the pain medicine. That sounds horrible. I want to take that back completely. Meanwhile, I'm just trying to figure out when I could have two days of downtime to get my CO2 laser. So, you know, there's that, I'm like two days. You can do two days. No, I know, but I'm like, okay, well, I've got this trip,

then I have this, then I have to do a podcast. The fact that you don't stop is so ridiculous. I'll look at your Instagram and you just keep going. I know. So prime example, this past weekend, I had nothing on the calendar. Going into the new year, you know, we're not filming. I don't have anything.

Not filming, what show were you a part of? It was called Vanderpump Rules. I've heard of it. I'm a huge fan. Yes. So essentially we were all fired and replaced. Oh, right, right, right, right. Yeah. I know. It's okay. Wait, the big announcement is that you're coming back for season 12? Hey, we're waiting until a little later for that. Okay? But this weekend, this past weekend,

I had nothing on my calendar. So I'm like, must fill calendar. What should we do? Did you get like nervous when there was nothing on your calendar? Yeah. I just, I need to do something. I need to stay busy. And I've been wanting to get back down to San Diego to visit our old neighbors who are old in age, but also old we used to live by. And I was so excited to be able to go and see them.

And Brock needed to get some building stuff done with his friends he used to own F45 with their opening up a new gym. They asked if he could come down and do some Brock the Building series stuff. Building benches and whatnot. And I was like, you know what, perfect. I have nothing on the calendar.

Let's go to San Diego. So we go, we have an amazing night Friday. We go to Barbusa, our favorite restaurant in Little Italy. Stay up watching Wicked. I'm telling you, I have seen this movie every day for the past five days. Where's Brock with Wicked? I'm not mad at it. Is Brock still loving Wicked? He loves it.

Okay. Yes. He hasn't watched it all five times with us. Sure. But someone was like, I wish we could just watch Wicked every day. And I'm like, well, look, until you go back to school, if Wicked's on, I love the music, I love everything about it.

So I'm like, we could watch it every day for now. But, so we have an amazing time with our neighbors. And then the next morning we wake up, they're not a fan of using the heater. So the house was freezing. And so I'm just cuddling with Summer in bed. And I'm like, oh my gosh, you're so warm. We're just getting our cuddles in watching some TV in bed and then we go downstairs and she's cuddling up with Mike

He is 86 years old. He kind of looks like Santa Claus He is the sweetest man I've ever met my entire life and she is just obsessed with him So she's cuddling him on the couch and I'm like so adorable. I go and get an acupuncture appointment I come back and they're like she and I don't think she's feeling well and I just see it in her eyes and I'm like, so adorable. I go and get an acupuncture appointment. I come back and they're like, Sheena, I don't think she's feeling well. And I just see it in her eyes. And I'm like, wait, this morning, I just thought she was really cuddly

and was just excited to like spend some time with him. Oh no, she's burning up. When I thought we were just warm in bed. Wait, did Summer get Mike sick? No, thankfully, at least not yet. He's still okay. I checked on them yesterday, but I'm like, oh my God, she's got a fever.

So I'm like, we gotta get out of here because I can't chance her getting them sick. And she's already exposed them to whatever this is. I don't want further exposure. So she's crying. She's so sad. She doesn't wanna leave. I'm like, I'm sorry, honey, but like we gotta go.

So we pack up the car, we get on the road, leave Brock in San Diego. You're literally defied gravity at this point. Seriously. We leave Brock with all of his tools and equipment. I'm like, honey, we gotta go figure out how to get home. So on our way home, we're on the five. All of a sudden I see this car in front of me

kind of come into my lane and I'm like, oh my God, I slam on my brakes. Boom. We crash into each other. Was it Stasi? No, it was Kristen. Wait, you got into an accident? Yes. We get into an accident on the way home. It was just one thing after another. She was asleep in the car. She didn't even wake up. Thankfully it wasn't that bad. It's just mostly some scratches. It was just a little bump.

But there was that, that now I still have to deal with. So we got home yesterday. We woke up, we watched Wicked. Back to Wicked, good, good. Did not leave the living room kitchen area until like 5 p.m. I didn't even get fresh air. Like we were just, she had a sick day. Are you doing full signal logs? Would you watch?

We did yesterday. Yeah. We watched this. Yeah, actually. Yes, we have. So the part when Alphaba and Glenda or Galinda at the time, when they have the moment with just the two of them and you know, the dance moves, Summer loves to do that. So we follow their dance moves and do that part together, but every time a song comes on, she's like, mommy, let's dance, let's dance.

So it's been fun. I love that you're creating storylines, even though you're not on reality TV at the moment. You're like, literally, I got into an accident. There's like a sick old guy, there's six, like it's a constant movement. It was a lot. So what we thought was going to be just a relaxing weekend

in San Diego, chill on the beach, see all of our old neighbors and just relax. Just brought Stranded in San Diego right now? So he got a ride back with his friend yesterday because also I needed some help at home. We needed stuff from, like I had Kevin, my bandmate and close friend, run to the grocery store for us yesterday.

You have one of the band members that wrote apples running errands for you? It was for summer and it was just popsicles. She wanted popsicles. And I mean, they are so close. Like she is obsessed with Kevin to the point where Brock, I felt like got a little jealous yesterday.

We were on FaceTime with Brock and she's like, daddy, I want to call Kevin. We're calling Kevin. And he was like, oh, no, no, no. He's like, it's one thing if my wife is hanging out with this guy all the time and working on music and whatever, it's another one my daughter starts asking for him over me.

Here's another storyline right here. This is like, this is season one Vanderpump. You know, so yeah, so that was my weekend, but Brock came back with a friend yesterday because that was his only ride back. And now today he's gonna get a rental and go back because all of his equipment's still there and he needs to finish the job.

What is Brock gonna get like an HGTV show? Like I'll watch his Instagrams and it's like, it's like I get fixated on them. Cause I'm like, dude, this dude actually knows what he's doing and he walks you through it. Like, is he gonna do an HGTV show or something like that? Building with Brock or something like that. Brock the Builder.

Yeah. Yeah. Brock the Builder, can he fix it? Is that, is that your safe word? No, that's from Bob the Builder. I'm joking, I'm joking, I'm joking. But anyways, other than all of that for me this weekend, I know the Golden Globes were last night,

but Summer and I first were in a wicked hole, and then she's actually really into football. Shocking. I wonder how that happened. Yeah. So we had Sunday, day and night football. She watched the entire Chargers game with me. Then we had the Lions game last night. So I didn't get to see the Golden Globes. I read some transcripts. I looked at all the looks. Do you have to stress the importance of the awards shows and award seasons to summer mood yet? To be honest, football and who's gonna make the wild card playoffs was more important

than the Golden Globes in our household. Kids, these val, but you're a performer, Sheena. I would think that you would like show the importance of both. I'm also a season ticket holder and the Chargers Raiders were playing. It was Chargers Raiders. It was a division game.

It was a very important game and I'm teaching summer football. She knows how many points a touchdown is and field goals and I'm teaching her the game. So that was of importance yesterday. But I do want to get into the Golden Globes because I watched it. So we're going to take a quick little break and then we'll be right back. This episode is sponsored by Acorns. And I don't know if y'all know this. Obviously every year, you know, we all set all sorts of big goals at the beginning of the year, but only 8% of people will stick with their resolutions all year long.

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So many funny jokes and I feel like the Globes, I mean, it's definitely not an easy show to host. No. Yeah, like last year, Joe Coy did it, the comedian, and he had a really rough go of it. So Nikki Glaser came in and you could tell she just loves pop culture, loves brilliant TV, and we wanted to laugh with her. The audience seemed a little tepid, but I think they're just nervous and they're stars. Yeah, and they're like, what is she going to say? Because she's known for roasts and she's like, I'm not here to roast you, but like a little bit, but not out for blood. Well, she was on Stern today talking about like

the jokes that didn't make it and the process with all the, the writing team. And I just love all the thought that goes into it. And she could talk about how you could lose a room. You might win the audience at home, but you might lose the room and see how to be careful of that. But I was even thinking like in all of your time in Los Angeles, did you might lose the room. Right. And see you gotta be careful of that. But I was even thinking like, in all of your time in Los Angeles, did you ever go to the Golden Globes? No, that's actually one I haven't been to. I actually haven't been to any of the really big ones,

like the Grammys, the Oscars, the Globes. I've just been to the Creative Arts Emmys. Yeah. And like the music award shows, People's Choice, Teen Choice, MTV, all of those ones. Yeah. But not the big ones. I do think it's weird that the Golden Globes don't have a reality show category because they have like box office achievement now, which is like wicked what that, but I think it would be

interesting to see what the foreign press thinks of American reality TV. I feel like that could be something in the future. Yeah. You know? Definitely. Never know. But it definitely takes a special talent to navigate hosting Oh, she that type of show I think yeah, no, she did so great. She looked amazing She had funny moments But I loved how in her monologue where she's calling out like various projects nominated in the room and she's like the bear the penguin Baby reindeer, you know all things you find in RFK's refrigerator.

Yeah, and she did like, what are like a couple of words, it was like everything Ben Affleck yells out when he climaxes. Yes, in bed. So good. No, so good. I also saw there was a clip from the night where she called out various things plugged

in acceptance speeches this far, like cast and crew 10 times, mom four times, Mario Lopez one time. God, the creator of the universe, zero, Mario Lopez one time. Wait, can I read a couple that like didn't make the cut? Yes, oh my God, please do. She was unstirred and she, I like transcribed this

because I loved it so much. It says, the Golden Globes, where people who won the genetic lottery get paid like they won the actual lottery, can win another thing. The Golden Globes is the only show where you can see the biggest stars in movies and television joined together with the same goal, getting out of here tonight before Dax Shepard

asked them to do his podcast. Let's see, by the way, they were talking about the movie Night Bitch. By the way, Night Bitch is what Diddy hears every evening before lights out. And there were so many of them. But it was great because she walked through the process of like, why this didn't work, why she went with this one

instead of that one. And I loved, like, just the art of it. There's like an art form to it. Absolutely. And how she said she wasn't gonna touch on anything Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni. She's like, no matter what, it's gonna seem like I'm on the wrong side of history, which I'm not, but it's just better to not say anything. Well, you just, we're talking about that

a couple episodes ago. You're damned if you do, damned if you don't sometimes. Well, that's the thing. And when I felt like, you know what? I do need to make a statement about James because I feel like if I don't, everyone thinks I support it, but then I do and I still upset some people. And I'm like, I'm damned if I do, damned if I don't.

It's also weird though, because also being a woman, I support it, but then I do, and I still upset some people. And I'm like, I'm damned if I do, damned if I don't. It's also weird though, because also being a woman, for some reason we still want to find ways to be angry at a woman, rather than the guy will still find ways of like, how can I be mad at Sheena in this? Or how can I be mad at this other woman instead of the person that actually

it's all revolving around? Okay, so back to the Golden Globes, because one thing I also did watch was Demi Moore's acceptance speech. Fucking incredible. Oh my God, I felt like, I mean, it just really resonated with me with just being on TV for so long

and how she said that she was told by a producer, she was just, you know, a popcorn actress, which I didn't even realize what that meant, but just like, meaning that she could only be in like commercially successful ones, you know. Like 20 years ago, she was the highest paid actress. Like strip tease was like a box office, like payday high for women.

She did that, G.I. Jane, but she wasn't considered like a real actor. Right. So just seeing all of that and her feeling like she was never gonna be taken seriously for her art, I mean, that was like heartbreaking, you know? It's something that I feel like many women have heard some variation of, but.

But isn't it interesting to think about Debbie Moore where you're like, she has it all. Oh my God, what a star, what a legend. And then she has doubts about herself. She's been told she's less than. And that message of don't snuff your own light out. You are enough. I was talking about this with a friend last night saying,

I loved her in The Substance. I thought that was a great, really weird, awesome movie. But I didn't think she was going to win. I thought Cynthia Erivo was going to win for Wicked, but now she's got a real shot of winning the Oscar, not just because her performance was great, but because she's telling a story. That inspires people. We want to be inspired by Hollywood and television actors and what we see, and that's inspiring the passage. Absolutely. It's like if she wasn't a favorite to sweep award season, I think after that speech, I would bet on her for sure.

It's a real race though. Yeah, no, definitely. She also was by far one of my favorite looks of the night and I'm going to get into some more looks. Thanks for having me on to talk about fashion. Yeah, you know, my fashion correspondent, Ryan Bailey here. But yeah, her message was just so powerful. And I honestly could not believe that she's never won an award. Dude, that was shocking. Anything like I was, I was like, wait, is that I went back and check because I was like, there's no way that's true. It was true. Yeah. That's so wild. And on top of it, to hear that she felt like just a couple years ago, she thought her career was over and she was at her lowest point.

That's why you could never like even take away Hollywood. You could never give up on yourself. Like we all have those like dark days, those dark moments, no matter what industry you're in, just like, just wait until tomorrow. Like just, just put one foot in front of the other. It's that was so inspiring to hear. No, everything she said. And it just goes to show, you know, you can't put people in a box and- Well, we want to put ourselves in a box too.

Yeah. It's easier to think negative things about yourself and to hear it. Like you get so used to negativity. Yeah. That you just start to accept it. Yeah. I feel like after being on reality TV for what?

12 years now, which I mean, I'm grateful for everything that has come with it, but her speech really did resonate with me. I was an actress before I was a reality star and her speech just saying, I am enough and everything she said, it was an important reminder for me of that. Well, just, I hate to keep bringing up Vanderpump rules,

but that's how it all started. You guys were like actors, performers, trying to make it. I was an actor trying to make it. I worked at like an acting studio for 12 years where I saw the cast of Vanderpup rules coming in to take classes. Like it's such a hard industry. And like, I always joke that like,

if you're an actor in LA, you'll hear more inspirational phrases by the time you're 27 years old than most people will hear your whole life. Because you have to have something to keep you going because it is such a lottery. It is so, and every year that passes, that window closes. You just feel it like a noose around your neck.

It's really, really scary. So you need to hear things like that. You need to hear to not give up. And like people would be shocked that even you doubt yourself. You're like, wait, you've been on TV since 2013. Like people don't realize that you actually have real feelings real doubts literally and

Because of being on reality TV for so long I feel like it's taken so much of my confidence and all of that from me where I started this show as a confident 26 year old, you know trying to be an actress and make it an entertainment and now I'm like am I good at anything? Wait, you wait it hasn't Added more confidence at all. No, I feel wait, it hasn't added more confidence at all? No. See, I feel like it's like made you more, like your resolve is stronger.

No, quite the opposite. Cause you, it seems like when even we've talked in the past, you're able to deal, like there's always like drama going on behind the scenes. You're able to like roll with it. Where like that would, like I've had a couple of things happen in the last couple of years, like it's literally like driven me off a cliff.

Like I don't know how. I feel that way too. You know? Yeah. So wait, when you worked at the acting studio, did you hear any feedback about us, Vanderpump rules people as actors? I don't know if we talked, yeah.

I don't know if we'll have a lot of, so you came in and I remember this was, I think pre-Vanderpump, you at that time had done something with the Jonas Brothers. I did, yeah. It was like 2008 or 9. There was detailed notes on everybody. And so I would geek out.

I would just look at the system at everybody's notes. Like Paris Hilton took classes there. Every cool person was going through there. They still do. But yours was like, you knew what you were doing. You were like, you had booked a couple of commercials. You knew it. Unfortunately, the men of Vanderpump, they were like really good looking.

Tom and Tom. And there was one that was like thinks he's funny, not as funny as he thinks he is. Ariana got great, Ariana got great notes. Dodie, I don't remember. But it was like, I remember you and Ariana got the highest notes, if I'm allowed to say that. Nice. Yeah.

Yeah, you're totally allowed to say that here on Shenanigans. Okay, again, back to the Golden Globes. Did you see the ring on Zendaya's finger? Well, did you check your phone in the last hour? No, I have not. They announced that they are engaged. Okay, so they did. Oh, yay.

Tom Holland popped the question over the holidays. I love that. Asked for dad's permission a couple months ago. So they are engaged. Oh my God. And it was awesome that he wasn't there last night because you can just picture he's out there making a fire in some cozy sweater, you know,

waiting for his lady to come back. Like he just seems like a dude that loves to act and doesn't love to get caught up in like the Hollywood BS. And she's so insanely talented. So it seems like a perfect. Insane. I love that I don't know a lot about them as a couple. Yeah, I don't really either. I just I love them together.

And I thought she looked incredible as well. Also, Kylie Jenner and Timothy Chalamet hard launched their relationship last year at the Golden Globes. But she was there again this year to support him, although she skipped the carpet like last year. Did she skip the carpet or was she see, how does that conversation work? Right. Like when you were first dating Brock and you would go to events, was there a conversation

of I'd rather just walk this alone? Like I know that's a smaller scale, but like, was there ever that conversation of I wanted to just be me? Usually, and what we still do to this day is I do solo first, and then he comes on for a couple photos, and then I continue on. And if they want solos of him, then he stays and does solos. But I always will do solos first, no matter what. So solos are just when they get a shot just of you posing.

So my thing is, is there a conversation had? Is there a negotiation? Is Kris Jenner involved? I want her on that red carpet, damn it. Is the goal to get on that Oscar's red carpet. And personally, I kind of want to see it. I was hoping Timothy Chalamet was going to win last night just cause I wanted to see them kiss.

I wanted to see if he thanked Kylie because it's been a couple years now. And I also want to know if Kylie's even like what she thinks of Bob Dylan. Like does she have to listen to Bob Dylan's music? Like Sheeta, have you seen the Bob Dylan movie yet? I haven't seen anything that Timothy Chalamet has been in. If I'm being honest, I know him as Kylie Jenner's boyfriend.

You haven't seen Wanda, at least? No. What? Are you against, is this a feud with you and Timothy Chalamet? No, it's not. I just haven't seen any of those films. I wanna see Dune. He's an amazing actor.

I know. Dune's really great. Brock has seen it, and he was so excited when Dune 2 came out. I was like, yo, I got to watch one first. See, if Summer Moon's going to watch Wicked, you've got to also let her watch the Bob Dylan movie to like balance it out. Right, totally. Yeah, I know we have it. No, but I do want to see like, it is funny to think about Kylie because all we know of

her is dating like rappers like Tyga, Travis Scott. Yes. And then all of a sudden, Timothee Chalamet is, I don't know if it's a complete 180, but it's very different. And just in the music silings, they see Timothee Chalamet is, I don't know if it's a complete 180, but it's very different. And just in the music silings, they see Timothy Chalamet listen to nothing but Bob Dylan for like five years straight. Oh, wow.

So did Kylie Jenner just have to sit and listen to folk music for like, I wanna know her thoughts. Like I wanna know, I don't know, the whole time on the Golden Globes, I just kept looking for like Kylie Jenner in the audience because I was just fascinated with it. She looked incredible. I will say fascinated with it. She looked incredible.

I will say though, it was kind of awkward. I saw Perez Hilton posted when Demi Moore had kind of snubbed her. She's talking to Al Fanning, and then Kylie's like, congratulations. And you see, she kind of looks at her, so maybe she said thanks or whatever. But then she goes around to her,

says hi to Timothy, and then walks off. Well, I always wonder, does Kylie Jenner get insecure? Like she's a billionaire. She has nothing to be insecure about, but does she get insecure in rooms like that? Does she get shy? And like, does Timothy go out of his way to go, hey, this is my girlfriend, Kylie.

You know, like how does that all work? But I saw that moment and it looked weird, but maybe Demi was nervous to say hi to Kylie. Who knows? I don't know, but I feel like Kylie, just from what I've seen watching, you know, every episodes of Kardashians ever, I feel like she does have a lot of insecurities

and you could be a billionaire and the youngest richest person in the world, but I feel like as many fans as she has, she still maybe feels like she's not enough or when people are like, they're not talented. It's like she is not enough or when people are like they're not talented they're not it's like she is businessly talented and also she can sing she just doesn't oh yeah what was that rise and shot rise and even when they were all doing the Christmas album and she's like look out of everyone like I can sing I

just choose not to maybe she doesn't have the confidence what's so interesting though and I know you don't know a lot about Bob Dylan, but like he came up in a time in the sixties where he didn't like, you know, obviously social media wasn't around. He didn't have to promote himself. He wasn't trying to make it. Like this happened to him. And we live in a society now

that is based around social media that Kylie Jenner has benefited from. So it's so interesting for Timothee Chalamet to play somebody like this, but also to be potentially in love with somebody that is so different than what Bob Dylan represents. Yeah.

And I always wonder like how Timothy kind of talks to himself about that. Like, you know, how does he make sense of that relationship? Like, I want to know what makes them work together. Yeah, well, maybe we'll find out. Have you ever seen Bob Dylan in concert? Yeah. Did you fall asleep?

Dude, I had a big Dylan, like I'm a nerd. I had a big Dylan period in my twenties, because that's what you do as a lonely, weird kid. And so I loved him. So I went to the Hollywood Bowl. This a-hole said that you couldn't film him. So I had like nosebleed seats in the back of the Hollywood Bowl. I think I saw Bob Dylan. All I heard was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah. Like all of a sudden, I think I heard blowing in the wind. Like he like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Like all of a sudden, I think I heard blowing in the wind. Like he'd like changed up all of the structures to the song, but I saw him, I guess. It was such a bummer. Yeah, I saw him at Old Tella Desert Trip back in the day. Oh, with like the stones and all that stuff, right?

Like 2016, yes. Yeah, it was, they had two bands each night for three nights. And- Wait, were you there with Tom and Ariana? I was, all of us were there together. That was my last weekend of my marriage, honestly. That was one of the weekends that was really a big turning point for Shay and I.

Bob Dylan broke you guys up? He did. Wait, why was that the last weekend? It was two weeks before we actually separated. Were you guys fighting the whole weekend of that trip? It had to do with his sobriety that weekend and some things that I noticed and my mom noticed that were really off.

And yeah, it was the desert trip was like a really big turning point in our marriage. And it was kind of the beginning of the end. Wow. I, that's, well, what does Cheetah Shay think of when she hears Bob Dylan? Were you like, who is this guy? I hate this.

I know who Bob Dylan is. I knew who everyone at Desert Trip was. I grew up listening to Clack the Croc and all of that music. So anything, I mean, even back to like Elvis, I mean, I loved old music growing up. I wasn't really a kid who, I mean, I watched like Kids Incorporated

and Mickey Mouse Club and all of that, you know? But I felt like I had a very rounded out musical upbringing. So I'm trying to do that with Summer, but she's really stuck on the Moana and everything. We gotta get her off the wicket, man. We gotta, yeah. Get her into Elvis. Like I just like listened to all of Elvis' albums

this past year, like what a talent that dude is. Oh my God. So get this. So I was at Lance Bass's when we were in Palm Springs last week. Yeah. That's what you do on New Year's. You go to Lance Bass's. Of course.

That's totally normal. But the day before we had the kids just doing a play date together. And he was like, oh Violet, I forgot to give you one of your Christmas presents. And it was a vintage Frank Sinatra album. And she's like, Frank Sinatra, my favorite. And I'm like, come on, this kid knows Frank Sinatra?

That's incredible. He's like, probably doesn't know who NSYNC is, but Frank Sinatra. I'm gonna get some remote of Bob Dylan album, that's it. We gotta compete with Lance Bass's kid, like right now. It was just, it was so cute to see how excited she was to get a Frank Sinatra album I was like having a kid though is like seeing what they take to and what thing that you love they end up loving

Yeah, like the things that they don't like that you love you're like, what's all what's that about? Yeah, look summer moon is there Sheena Marie music fan and that's all that matters What if what if what if she hated good as gold like would that be like game over? Would be like wait, you got to go to your room right now. Yeah. The other night when we got back from San Diego, because we weren't supposed to be there, Kevin was in the studio working. We let the boys come over to use the studio whenever. And so when we came in, he was like, oh, summary is like

I was just finishing working on one of your mom's new songs. Do you want to hear it? And he played a new song that's going to be on my EP called Dead to Me. And she loved it. And I was like, that's all that matters. My daughter likes it. A summer mood in the stew.

I love it. Wait, who's dead to be about? Well, you'll find out when the EP comes out. You always tease these things. Okay, back to the Golden Globes. Last thing, I want to talk about some of the looks because I wanna get your take as a man. Yeah, as a man, barely.

So I loved Demi, I already said that. The Fannings, oh my God, Dakota with the red sheer, you know, Tony war dress. Elle had this like champagne dress from Balmain with the leopard like little bustier thing. And they took their grandma with them, which I loved. I saw Dakota posted today and was like, this is all I needed. I love people that take their family to award shows. So cool. And for them to both go to the show together as nominees and like how cool,

you know, you have your sister there. That was always like what I've started, but when I first moved to Los Angeles, my grandma, Davis, rest in peace, she worked at this clothing store called Schottenstein's in Columbus, Ohio. And she heard it was award season and I wasn't working, but she sent me a really bad cheap tuxedo. Yeah. But it was like with this sweet note of like, I heard it was an award season in case you need it this year.

And so I still have that tuxedo. If I ever get nominated for anything, I won't fit into it or anything like that. But it was just that thing of like, and I was like, oh God, I hope I get nominated for something when my grandma is still here so I can take her and wear this tuxedo.

It's all about those stories, our families. Absolutely. No, so I loved seeing that. That was great. Pam Anderson, what do we think of the natural look? She's gorgeous. stories, our family. Absolutely. Yeah. No. So I loved seeing that. That was great. Pam Anderson, what do we think of the natural look? She's gorgeous.

Stunning. I, I, she's so committed to it that you can't argue against it, but I love her both ways. Yeah. I don't know. What do you think as a woman? Is it making the statement that you think she is trying to make? I think that it takes an insane amount of confidence to do a red carpet and press and all of that

with no makeup, especially at her age. I don't know that I would ever have that level of confidence. So I was like, you know what, good for you. You are stunning, but I just, I don't know that I could do it. Her Netflix documentary was so good. It came out a couple of years ago. And I love that we are now like kind of learning

this other side of Pam Anderson that's always been there, but she was considered such a sex symbol, like for so long and still is, but it is so interesting to hear like what that does to somebody where she is kind of like, F it, like I've had people sexualize me my entire career. I could literally give two rips about how you think I look right now.

Yeah, I loved how Miley Cyrus looked. Oh, I thought she looked gorgeous. That was one of my faves for sure. Like, if I was going to pick a look to wear myself, I felt like that would definitely be one. But I loved how all of her tattoos were showing, because as you know, I have several tattoos. But I was like, wait, I don't know that I've ever really noticed

Miley has a tramp stamp. And I feel like whenever I wear something that's backless, I always wanna cover the tramp stamp, because I'm like, oh no, it's tacky. And then I saw how good Miley looked, and I'm like, I might bust out the tramp stamp again. Let's not go too crazy, Sheena. You're talking crazy now.

Let's not, just because Miley did it one time like. But I mean, the bangs, the glasses, know it all everything about it just and I love that she hasn't, you know, just like joined the Hollywood fake boob crew. You know, it's like she's just like natural and her and insane. Just love her. Kate Hudson. I felt like just classically beautiful. You know, it wasn't too much.

It was just like that's kind of a look you expect to see at award shows. You know, just kind of like the ball gown-y type of look. Loved it. Melissa McCarthy, because I didn't watch the full show, I'm curious, was she able to sit? Like is there any footage of her actually sitting? Not to kill you? No, I think there was footage of her sitting. Not to kill you. I think there was footage of her sitting.

They did this thing with the presenters where the camera was so close on them that it was like uncomfortable. Yeah. But yeah, I did see her sit. She's just sitting on her dress, not even a chair. It's gotta be so awkward for them the whole night. Right. But it's like when you do a look, I mean, most of the time Kim Kardashian's looks, she

cannot sit. She can't pee. She's just there, standing in it, you know? You suffer for your art. I know. Selena Gomez I thought also was stunning. She can do no wrong in my eyes. Any that I didn't like.

Yeah. I mean, yes, but I like to always just, you know, be positive and say nice things. So, okay, I'll say this. Kate Blanchett. Yeah. It was an interesting choice to rewear. I heard that she rewore a dress that she had worn last year in 2024. And I'm like, I do wish sometimes that more would embrace this.

You know, sometimes I fall in love with the dress, but then I'm told, you know, I can't wear it again. And I have a whole closet in Palm Springs of looks I've worn on the red carpet that I told, you know, I can't wear it again. And I have a whole closet in Palm Springs of looks I've worn on the red carpet that I'm like, well, I can never wear this again. So I'll just hang it up here and maybe wear it to a holiday party or something. So I thought that that was cool that she re-wore it.

I just thought it was an interesting choice to re-wear because it was a really out there dress. You know, it wasn't like a black gown that you're like, has she worn that before? It was like, oh, that's a look. She's been to so many award shows, it just must get exhausting to keep doing the likes. I don't know, I can totally see why she would do it of all people.

Yeah. What did you think about the men? I noticed all the men have brooches now. Yeah, I saw that too. From what I saw, I mean, all the guys just looked, you know, classically good. I didn't think there was anything too crazy. Some hats and whatnot.

There's not a lot you could do, but like the broaches, I was like, we're really going broach forward in 2025. I guess it's the year of the broach. Also, Kristen Bell's dress reminded me of a cut that I recently wore for a photo shoot that I'll show you a photo of later. Wait, so you're saying Kristen Bell copied your look? No, because she hasn't seen this photo of me yet.

And I did not copy Kristen Bell because I shot this in July or August. See, it's so interesting. When I look at things, I'd never be like, oh, I wore that. It's like, oh, that guy's wearing the same old Navy shirt that I have. But it's interesting. In television, the same old Navy shirt that I have like but it's like interesting

Like in television, you're probably always have an eye out for like oh I was gonna get that but they're wearing that Yeah Well even last season of Vanderpump and Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Kyle and Katie have the same interview look Yeah, and I'm like, how did Bravo approve that you're like on two similar shows Does Bravo have to approve every like everybody has to sign off on all your talking head looks? Yeah, we have a full day where we come in with say maybe eight looks and then they narrow it down to the top four. That's the worst part is like those, you probably love it,

but I used to hate that stuff on commercials, like trying on pants and all that stuff. I hated it. I absolutely hate it. I do not like shopping in person. I do not like going in dressing rooms and trying stuff on. I hate it. Did absolutely hate it. I do not like shopping in person. I do not like going in dressing rooms and trying stuff on. I hate it.

Did you get a costume budget? No. For like the talking heads at least? No. Really? No. Wow. Yeah.

Interesting. Yeah. If there was a category added to the Golden Globes, the Angie K award for best high body count hair. Shout out Angie Kay. Who do you think would be nominated? Who is the one? I'm blanking on the name, but there was one specific one.

Who is it? So, well, Kathy Bates did the clip-in ponytail. Nicole Kidman had like a clip-in ponytail as well. And then, I mean, Miley had the hair back, which I loved. Jennifer Coolidge. Jennifer Coolidge had high hair, yeah. Yeah.

I love that high body count hair is in our lexicon again. God, I love Salt Lake City. It's back on this week. It's so good. I'm so excited. I know, I'm like, the housewives have been off for a minute. I went to watch- Two weeks, thank God. Beverly Hills, and I'm like, oh, I'm still caught up?

What the fuck? Oh, I loved it. I loved a two week break. No, but like Salt Lake, I got to meet though at that Kathy Hilton holiday party. Yeah, like I got to geek out on them so hard. Like, NGK was so cool. Mary Cosby. Like I had a normal conversation with Mary Cosby. It was so cool. Yeah, I'm obsessed with this season. And then there's also, you know, low body count hair. Ariana Grande, Simple, Emma Stone. Where was Ethan Slater? Why wasn't Ethan Slater with Ariana Grande at the table? Oh, I don't know. It was just something I thought, like are they not supposed to like be at events together because their relationship started in a weird way?

Yeah, maybe. I don't know. That whole thing, I was doing a deep dive on that because I was telling my old neighbors when we're watching, I was like, okay, so. Wait, your 86 year old old neighbor, you're telling them about Ethan Slater. I was giving them the tea. I was like, okay, so, Glinda, Bach. Wait, does Summer Moon know about Ethan Slater and the relationship?

She wasn't really paying attention when I was telling them the story, but I had to give them the tea because Mike's wife, Cheryl, she's not 86. She's in her 60s, but she loves all of the tea. So I was telling her that, and she's got her iPad up on Instagram. She's looking up all of their stuff, and it was fun. Emma Stone had a pixie cut that she debuted last time.

Yeah, what did you think of that? I'm not a huge fan of the pixie cut. I'm not either. But she's gorgeous regardless. Totally. I've never been a fan of pixie cuts. I haven't been either, but it does take a certain look to be able to pull it off.

And I feel like Emma Stone has that classically beautiful look that she could have a shaved head and look fine. Totally. And she probably will have a shaved head at some point in her career. Probably. Like, yeah, she can pull it off. It's just not something that I'm like, oh, cool.

Yeah, so I was like, not my favorite, but you know, she's one of the people who can pull it off. What's the worst hair you've had at an award show? Like the one you hated the most? Probably hair that I did myself. I remember one time that I thought I was doing a cute look by just doing an up, messy pony. Because I was like, oh, it's just going to kind of be like a bedhead look. And when I got the photos back and my publicist saw the photos, he was just like, why didn't you get your hair done?

I was like, it was a choice. And I thought it was a good choice. Didn't come out the way I thought. It was just when I had great glam, I was like, and then we just do the messy, sexy, but no. So I also though, want to give an honorable mention to Jeremy Strong in the bucket hat. See, that's how I would dress if I had money.

So it's like so good that I don't have money because I would be wearing shit like that all the time. And he, you can just tell he loves, Robert Downey Jr dresses that way a lot too, where it's like kind of like out there, but you can tell he loves it. Yeah, I love it. I also liked Leighton Meester's Versace look.

Yeah. Yeah, she was there supporting her husband, Adam Brody. Did you watch Nobody Wants This on Netflix? So good. I heard they mentioned Vanderpump Rules in that, right? Yes. Okay, so no, it is- Because the Foster sisters love Vanderpump Rules.

No, it is top of my list of a new thing to watch. I just haven't gotten around to it because, you know, I've been watching Wicked every day. You gotta have them on Shenanigans. They were like, they were on So Bad It's Good. Oh, okay. And we talked about Vanderpump, like, you should watch the show, it's excellent.

Yeah, no, that's definitely top of my list. I need to watch it, but I always love to see a good Blair fashion moment, you know. And OK, wait, but speaking of Blair, did you see that rumor that Serena, you know, Blake Iveley and her team were pushing to get her a key presenting spot to try and revamp her image? But the Globes apparently passed. There's no way that's true. I mean, there's no way that's right. I mean. There's no way that's true. I don't think there's a, like,

I think she would stay as far away from that because Ryan Reynolds, they were supposed to both be there because Ryan Reynolds was nominated for Deadpool and Wolverine, Wicked One, and they both backed out of even going. Yeah. So I mean, I just, I don't think, I don't know, with all the lawsuits going back and forth,

that is, I would love to know if that's true or not. Yeah. Because it, ugh. I don't know, with all the lawsuits going back and forth, that is, I would love to know if that's true or not. Yeah. Cause it, ugh. I don't know, there's a lot of that that's gonna obviously play out soon. That's gonna be all of 2025. Oh, totally. And then did you see Brady Corbett,

who is the winner of Best Director for The Brutalist, which also won for Best Motion Picture Drama, the comment during his speech about, he said, final cut tie break goes to the director, sort of a controversial statement, though it should be. Which, I mean, there was applause from the audience, but. So people were like almost taking that to mean that was a Justin Baldoni reference

in regards to the Blake Lively cut and the Baldoni cut. I heard that that wasn't in reference to that at all. He made a three and a half hour film that like has an intermission during it. I heard that was like completely self-serving and nothing to do with Justin Baldoni at all. But I think people were perceiving it that way. We'll find out more this week,

but I heard that it wasn't actually, that was just him being an artist. Oh, okay. Yeah. And then speaking of presenters, Aubrey Plaza was slated to present at the awards and her husband, Jeff, passed away Friday morning. I mean, I cannot even imagine what she's going through.

I hope along with the rest of her family and friend network that she's just feeling supported during this time. I saw that a couple of days ago and just, but you know, if you know someone who needs help, please call the national suicide prevention lifeline at nine eight eight. That is no joke. That is something that needs to be taken very seriously. Anytime. Anyone says anything about that. I'm just like,

I always will take those things very seriously. Oh God, yeah, me too. Like I think we've all had moments in our own lives where it just, things get so dark. But also this is what I hate about, as much as I love celebrity news and Daily Mail and TMZ, now it's like they're picking over the bones of like,

look at this interview where Aubrey Plaza said this about her relationship five years ago. It's like guys, leave it alone, give it a rest. Like they just are out there looking for clicks and that like it's sometimes it's just like, let it be. Yeah, I agree. Like, do you want to get into some Bravo stuff with you? We're going to take one more quick little break and then we'll be right back. So have you ever gone on a ski or snowboarding trip and just not wanted to have to bring your own equipment with you just realizing how much it is to lug it, check it, worrying about it getting banged up on the airplane when they're tossing your luggage? Because I personally have. And that's why I'm here to tell you about Shipskis, which makes this problem completely go away

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All right. So to switch gears a bit, I couldn't have Ryan Bailey on and not get his take on some things happening in the Bravo bubble. So we're going to do things a bit out of order this week by moving the Jack's Hole of the week up. Did you know this is a new segment on Shenanigans? I do know this is a new segment. Jacks has won it a couple of times now.

He has, yeah. He won it, but you know, I mean, obviously inspired by the Jack Hole, but I was like, we're gonna call it the Jack's Hole because I'm not gonna completely copy. But this week's moment- Wait, has Jacks reached out to you about the Jack's Hole because I'm not going to completely copy. But this week's moment. Has Jax reached out to you about the Jack's Hole segment at all? No, not about that.

Are you so blown? Oh, not about that. What has he reached out to you about? Come on. Before talking about him on the podcast, I think now he's just accepted that I'm going to continue to speak about him if it gives me something to speak about. Simple as that, you know, don't do dumb shit if you don't want people to talk about it. But he's been, at least from what I've heard, a little more quiet recently. Yeah, on Instagram yesterday, or on his little message,

it said, 2025 starts now. On January 5th? I don't know. We all started later. I don't know. OK. But this week's Jack's Hole is going to go to my girl Jennifer Aiden for her New Year's Day

I'm a celebrity tirade at the airport Jersey Mike's so Can you walk us through what happened here? I've seen all of the tic-tacs and stuff I'm like she wanted to order another sandwich and 6 a.m. At an airport. They're traveling somewhere They go to Jersey Mike's her husband Bill. He went to like Shake Shack or whatever. So she's ordering, she keeps switching her order. Like they keep like, they can't make up their mind. This like 65 year old woman is like working the deli

like slicer or whatever. And she just starts filming them and being like taunting and saying like, they're so slow and dumb and stupid and all of these things. And it's like this old lady working at a Jersey Mike's at the airport, New Year and all of these things. And it's like this old lady working at a Jersey Mike's at the airport. New Year's Day of all the get this. She's ordering a tuna sandwich to take on a flight at six a.m.

That's criminal in itself. Like who ordered a tuna flipping sandwich to take on a flight? And then it's like, why post that and think people are going to be with you? Like who's going to be like? And so then the Jersey Mike employees, like they risk their jobs. They're like, I don't care who this lady thinks she is. I don't know who she is. Says she's like drops the celebrity card at a Jersey Mike's of all places.

I know we're all equal at Jersey Mike's. And it's like regardless of what happened, you know, she has no right to dox those workers. And when she's like, you're what happened, she has no right to dox those workers. And when she's like, you're supposed to be smiling, right? You smile at Jersey Mike's and just all of that. I was like, you have a platform with hundreds of thousands of followers and you should use it more responsibly.

And especially when your show is on the bubble, it might not get picked out the door. It's officially paused. Because of this kind of shit. Yeah. Like this is exactly why it's not gonna come back because of this kind of shenanigans. Shout out shenanigans.

Hey, pun intended. But I love Jen. I've always loved her. But when I saw that, I'm just like, you're gonna be my jacks all. You're buddy Mercedes. She doesn't like Jen. Her and we've had a-

Really? Yeah, you gotta ask Mercedes about Jen. Like she- Okay. But yeah, I just thought it was Mercedes about Jed. Like she- Okay. But yeah, I just thought it was uncalled for. I thought it was ridiculous. I thought it was hurtful. Like there was everything wrong with it.

And I hope she issues an apology at some point. Did you see, she got removed from that housewives cruise? She already lost a job with Teresa Delores. They have to find another housewife now. She lost that gig. That won't be hard. Interesting. Yeah.

Also- Wait, have you ever, you've never like, you've never lost it on a service employee where you've like been filmed or like, right? No. You would never. Never. Because you know that that's ridiculous.

Right, no, the fact that a few weeks back, someone said that I don't tip. I- Oh yeah. That I was like, oh hell no. I tip at the open bar. I tip at the paid bar. I will tip 20% for bad service. I usually always tip over 20%.

So I'm like to say that I don't tip, how dare you. Even if you wanted to not tip, you have to tip because you're Sheeta. Yes, but I would never not tip because the way I see it is, what if this person just had someone pass away? What if their girlfriend boyfriend whoever just broke up with him? What if they're just having a shitty day and they're trying to do their best like you also worked in a service industry

Yes, you've depended on tips. Yes. That's what Nikki Glaser said last night I go to gloves whatever best jokes and like you have some of the hardest working talented actors in the world in this room tonight They are your servers. I loved that because I was like, yeah, that's true. But okay, in the Bravo bubble, we had a huge breakup and that is my friends, Paige and Craig. She announced on Giggly Squad that they have parted ways, mentioned there's no drama, things just didn't work out. However, fans are now, you know, chomping at the bit to turn this into a scandal, saying that she cheated. And that's obviously something that she has refuted. But I want to get your take on this. And I feel like sometimes, you know, two people can maturely

part ways because the relationship has run its course and that's how it should be, you know, that's- It happens. It happens. It's not always because something scandalous happened, you know, sometimes it just doesn't work out. Well, I think because of Scandal Ball, we as a Bravo audience are so primed

for there to be a dark reason. And I mean, obviously they tried for what? Over three years and it just, it didn't work. But do you think Scandival has ruined us? Do you think fans now expect that level of drama when it comes to a relationship in the Bravo verse ending? I think we do think of things in reality show storylines.

So I think we gravitate towards, well, there's gotta be a reason. We always leave out the fact that each and every one of us, anybody out there listening or watching, we've all broken up with somebody or been broken up with. So we always act like, this has never happened before. This is crazy.

No, it happens to everybody. It's just sad though, because I think we all kind of genuinely like Craig and Paige. We saw Craig grow, we've seen Paige grow into like the business person, like she's off. It was just a bummer. Cause you're like, oh, it would be cool if this was like in game, but I totally understand.

I just feel bad kind of for both of them. But yeah, it doesn't have to be a cheating scandal all the time. No, agree. They can be drugs. Yeah. Or just, you know. Have you reached out to any of them?

I talked to Paige the day that I saw it happen. She responded almost immediately and just thanked me for reaching out because you know I mean I've known Craig since his first season and I've known Paige since her first season like these are people I've Grown friendships with over the years actually haven't reached out to Craig yet now that you say that I need to be a good time But let's do it right now while we're on the pod should I? Just call him I'm like Hey, hey, I didn't actually. Hey, we're sitting in front of some Spritz Society wanting to give you a shout out. No, but you know, it just, yeah, sometimes it doesn't work. I think that the distance between

them, it worked as long as it could. You know, if he's not moving to New York, she's not moving to Charleston. They did it. They're both extremely successful. Totally. There's like an age difference, obviously. And we've seen it play out on television. I'm just curious because Summerhouse premieres February 14th or right in that, like, so I'm curious about how press is going to handle because there's a storyline involving Craig and Paige there. Southern Charm is airing right now. Yeah.

I don't know. Like it'll be, it'll make that reunion interesting. I just, I think you just kind of look at it where it seemed like Craig really wanted this. Not that Paige didn't. So I, I don't know. I don't know why we always feel bad for the guy more, but I think it's because we're always trying to make it fun. I think it's because we're always trying to make it fun.

I think it's because we're always trying to make it fun. I think it's because we're always trying to make it fun. I think it's because we're always trying to make it fun. I think it's because we're always trying to make it fun. I think it's because we're always trying to make it fun. I think it's because we're always trying to make it fun. I think it's because we're always trying to make it fun. I think it's because we're kind of look at it where it seemed like Craig really wanted this. Not that Paige didn't. So I, I don't know. I don't know why we always feel bad for the guy more, but I think it's cause we realize like Paige is like a force of nature. She's killing it on all fronts.

She really is. Not to take away from her pain at all, but yeah, it just makes me, it makes me sad. You sound like a male sympathizer. Yeah. Like, I'm like, I'm horrible. Truly. Like it's one of those things where where we'll know, you know what it is, because I know how like we're all like dudes are pussies. Like we will sit there and not be able to think logically about something

and we'll be all Drake and emo and our feelings of like, oh, nobody's ever felt this like you can just see him like, yeah, I should do ayahuasca with Shep. I need to like connect with something. And whereas like women will actually go, I'm completely sad and broken, but I will put one foot in front of the other and make a plan. Yeah, for sure. OK, so from a summer house back here to L.A. in Beverly Hills, I saw a tick tock at Kyle Richards,

daughter's Alexia and Sophia posted a video after the holidays showing the matching coats that Kyle got them saying that she always gets them the same thing every year. And I'm like, look, Kyle has has great taste so I would happily take anything she's gifting but would you want the same exact gift as your sibling? I mean if it's like that like you know that's gonna be like an expensive coat so at that level yeah but if we're talking like a smaller level like do I want like an Amazon gift card that my sister got? No.

But if it's like Kyle Richards, like my dream is to get a Kimo Sabe hat from Kyle Richards engraved. Like, of course I'm going to like, she has great taste. I don't, I would not give a rip about that. And I feel like if her daughters have the same taste and she knows her daughters, like. She's probably bought those daughters cars. Like they're fine. Like they can get the same coat. And with having a sister, I felt like I related to this because we are... So here's the thing. I either want two of the same thing or it has to be something that maybe she gets it in black, I get it in white, and we can share because we are the same size in clothing and

shoes. So I'm like, I'm totally with getting the same thing. Because, you know, it's like, if you're gonna wanna borrow it anyways. Wait, have you and your sister gotten into fights about gifts before? Not fights, no. But I think my mom knows us well enough

to know if she should get us the same thing. We don't live together, you know, we both travel often. So if it's a coat like that, I would want the same coat. Dude. Wait, what did your mom get you for Christmas this year? I can't think on the spot. I'm like, she didn't get us anything the same. Yeah. No.

But- I was watching that episode where you guys got the matching tattoo. Oh yeah. Has your sister got a matching tattoo with your mom? We do. We have matching finger tattoos. Perfect. Perfect.

Yeah. And then I think some others, but I'm trying to think. I still have all my Christmas presents in my garage that I've not put away yet, but everything my mom and dad get us, it's so thoughtful. It's things that I don't even necessarily ask for, but they just know I would use. And yeah, I don't think there were any of the same this

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