Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - Hot Topics: Ghosts, Floozies & Friends with Kids

Episode Date: April 4, 2025

This week, Scheana is getting into Hot Topics with Kiki Monique & Krystina Arielle. They weigh in on the complexities of stepparenting, maintaining relationships with friends who don’t have kids (and even vacationing together!), surviving birthday season among the pandemic baby boom kiddos, and how people who watch Bravo shows are more intelligent (it’s science)! Plus, did Scheana see a ghost at the haunted Chateau Marmont over the weekend? And what did Jax Taylor do to earn his namesake Jax-Hole distinction once again? Tune in to find out! Topics Covered:- Chappell Roan’s recent controversy around her parenting comments-Is Kenya Moore vindicated on RHOA?-Garcelle’s exit from RHOBH-Paige & Craig drama playing out on Summer House and Southern Charm // Is Craig’s new girlfriend THE Natalie he was seeing before Paige?-Yorkie on Masked Singer // Why do they suspect it’s a certain Housewife? -Rebecca Minkoff’s Floozy Clause Follow us: @scheana @scheananigans Co-Hosts: @thetalkofshame @krystinaarielle BUY MY BOOK!!!MY GOOD SIDE is available for Pre-Order now at www.mygoodsidebook.com The video version of this episode will be available on Scheana’s YouTube page on Friday, April 4thEpisode Sponsor:Shop at REVOLVE.com/GOODASGOLD and use code GOODASGOLD for 15% off your first order. #REVOLVEpartnerProduced by Dear MediaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The following podcast is a Dear Media production. From Vanderpump rules to motherhood and everywhere in between. Warm up the kettle, it's time to spill some tea. Let's get into some shenanigans with Sheena Shay Hello welcome back to another episode of Shenanigans. We've got my girl Kiki here for some more hot topics and making her long-awaited debut on Shenanigans. My girl Christina Ariel, how we doing? I'm good.

I'm excited to be here. I love both of you guys. So this is going to be really fun. And I love you. So no, this is great. So okay. When did we first meet? You will not remember this. I will remember this. Okay.

Because it was, we were at the Abbey. It was like... Oh, wait. Were you pregnant? Yes, with Ezekiel. It was like 20. And I just was going to like meet Ariana and have like a Red Bull. Everybody was at the Abbey. We went over there. I remember because you had on white platform Spice Girls shoes. And I was like, she knows where Spice over there. I remember cause you had on white platform, Spice Girls shoes. And I was like, she know where Spice Girls shoes. I love this for her. And I remember cause it was when Ariana was in her

like metal straw. She always had like a metal straw in her purse. I did too. And I went to go and like meet that night and we said hi and you were like, hi. And then we didn't end up like, I think until we went to New York was when we finally like. That's when we like really bonded.

It was your birthday. It was the same night as Ariana's debut performance and. And the premiere last year. The premiere party. Because you were dancing to Good as Gold and I was like. Yes. I was like, this is the most meta moment of my life is just like watching Sheena dance to Good as Gold.

And it's like, listen, if you know what's good, you do your thing. Yeah, well, I love it. Ariana brought us together and now here we are getting into shenanigans. How was everyone's weekend? I mean, I just got back from Mexico. I'm exhausted.

I'm kind of like, but like, you know, I'm feeling good. I think I got a little bit caught up. Good as gold. I'm feeling a little hungover. I was with Kiki last night. So we had Jared's birthday dinner. Ariana, Brittany, everyone was there. And yeah, the espresso martinis were flowing.

And then there were vodka sodas at the naughty pig. And I'm kind of feeling it today. This is my body being like, you're about to be 40. You're going to get a little hungover now. Yeah. I never used to. I kept drinking until about like, I think midnight. And it was like, I was feeling it this morning.

But like, yeah, you guys met us at the bar and I was like, you were. You looked so amazing. And then that's been like when we got to the dive bar, I was just like wearing like whatever. I was like, oh, my God, is this like the life of a reality star where you have to look this good all the time? Because you never know who's going to take your picture. Because if so, I would not survive.

No, I genuinely hate getting dressed up. I hate wearing heels. I asked Janet, I was hate getting dressed up. I hate wearing heels. I asked Janet, I was like, so do I have to wear heels? And she's like, yeah, it's chateau. It's fancy. And I'm like, I'll do it for Jared. I'll do it for Jared. And I put on my heels and my dress and my lashes,

but I don't enjoy doing that anymore. Then this morning I wake up feeling hungover. I look in the mirror. I had my like the Katrina, the eye patches, the little micro dart ones that I put on last night. I had my cream. So I think I'm gonna wake up just feeling and looking refreshed.

Looked a little tired. And then I go to put my makeup on and I'm like, yeah, that's now we've gone from a one car household to now we have three cars today. Cause Brock got his truck. My new car is getting delivered today. I have my SUV, but now the problem is, okay, my makeup is in Brock's truck from yesterday.

He didn't bring it in, so I have no makeup this morning. And I'm like, all right, I'm going through drawers. I find a foundation that's two shades too light. But then I find my caboodle, my caboodle that I was like, I know there's something in there. There's like a Mario blush, way too bright. I mixed that with some bronzer, found an eyebrow pencil and here we are.

But Summer comes in and she's like, mommy, that's my makeup because she likes to play with the kaboodle. But then it's like 8 a.m. and she's wanting to do her makeup and this is real makeup. I'm like, well, it's not yours, it's mine. But putting her blush on, I'm like, whatever, her dad's not here today. Yeah.

I just have to respect your commitment to washing your makeup off from last night. Yes. Because I would have been the type to roll over the morning and been like, listen, this eyeshadow is still good. I'm going to wash this part and be good to go because I would have went straight to sleep. I do love to save the eyeshadow.

When I get my makeup done, I just did this recently in New York. Priscilla did my makeup and then I had an event save the eyeshadow. When I get my makeup done, I just did this recently in New York, Priscilla did my makeup, and then I had an event again the next day. So I take everything off around the eyes, and I save the eyes for at least one more day. Cause it's still good. Yeah. And I'm like, I can put some cream under my eyes,

like whatever, but. Like you look so refreshed, what happened? Oh, anyway. How was your weekend? What'd you do? I had a kid's birthday party. They're like every weekend right now because the COVID babies, all born in the spring of 2021. Every weekend we have a party.

It is. I love kids birthday party. I love to throw a kid's birthday party. I love to throw a party, but it's just the like, if I get the right present, what is this kid like? And then you ask your kid, like, what is this person like? And he's like, it sounds like a lion, a tiger, a bear, and a python.

Don't forget the python. But then I talked to her parents and it turns out, I was like, oh, like this is what he said. And they go, oh no, those are her favorite things. So he was right, like in the vein of like, I want to get her this. But mostly it was just like, I hung out with my family. I did about 14 loads of laundry.

I like to say that I am Sisyphus and the laundry is my boulder. And I will continue pushing it up this hill and being tortured until it's like, oh listen, no, there's five people. I promise you, kids aren't wearing all those clothes. Just don't want to clean their room. They're just putting them in the bin.

None of that stuff is dirty. Literally, I'm constantly picking up his clothes from the floor. I'm like, the hamper's right there. Why can you not put it in the hamper? He's like, well, I'm going to put that back on. I'm like, then fold it, put it on the bench. Why is it just piles everywhere? Because then I just throw everything in the hamper.

And then there will be a joint or a lighter in his pocket that goes through the wash. And I'm like, should I have your pockets? He's like, but I was going to put them back on. I'm like, but you didn't. And they were on the floor. And especially if my mom's at the house, I swear it's not like she gets in. She's not even all the way in the kitchen yet. And like she's moved something.

Where I'm like, mom, where she was like, oh, I'm putting it. I'm like, that stuff is on the counter because I need to take it with me. I'm leaving it here so I don't forget. And now she's already put it away. And I'm just saying, woman, appreciate it. But sometimes I leave things out for a reason, you know? I like living alone. I like summer getting honest.

Like the neatness. Yeah. Erica's very hands-on. You can see that coming out. Yes, no, totally. Have you guys seen Snow White? Yes. I have not. Okay, so we went

and saw that. What did you think? I enjoyed it. Zoe really, like at the end of it, Zoe's like standing in the aisle and then she was really upset when Snow White, like there's a part where she's in the water. You saw the movie. So she falls into the water and Zoe goes, no her dress! And then she gets out of the water and she goes, no, her bow! Because her red bow is gone. Right, that had been gone. She was so just upset about like what had happened to Snow White's outfit. And she was concerned. And it was great because in the back of the theater,

there was this group of little girls all dressed like Snow White. And they're just like the whole movie after she sang the first song, they're like, I go, I go! And we go to the kids theater in Pico. Right, you showed me that. I need to take her still. It go to the kids theater in Pico. Right, you showed me that. I need to take her still.

It's called the Sinepolis Theater. It's in Pico Rivera. And they have a kids theater where you can go in and like before the movie starts. They can like play and stuff. There's a built in playground on the wall. Then there's a kids playground down here. They get to play before the movie.

There's an intermission in the middle of the movie so that they can play a little more. Get the like Wigley's out and go get snacks and stuff. And so we saw it there, which is just like a whole experience in itself. We saw it in Palm Springs and we were the only people in the theater. So we were lighting in summer. I'm like, you want to go sit somewhere else? She's like walking around and then at the part where, you know, she goes into the mirror and it shatters, she laughs out loud, so loud.

And then she's like, what the heck? I'm like, I wish there were other people in here to hear this. It, so loud. And then she's like, what the heck? I'm like, I wish there were other people in here to hear this, it was so adorable, but. That was Ezekiel's favorite part. When we asked him after the movie, he was like, I like when she got sucked into me. You're like. Yes.

So was it a flop or not? I keep hearing it's a flop. I mean, I enjoyed it. Okay. I thought it was a good movie. I think the press of the girl when she was like shitting on it and whatever it was I feel like that's why a lot of people are like, oh, we're not supporting this we're not gonna go see it, but I See you you're thinking something. I am well

I have a lot of feelings on like especially with those things right is trying to look at it in the vein of Remembering this is a kids movie like a movie that's geared towards kids. And I feel like the inclination in our society sometimes is to go straight for, oh, this, like the most negative slant that you can be like, this movie is garbage, but you've never seen the movie or like taking it in and just automatically having this ideal going in with the mindset. This is going to suck without going in with the mindset. Like maybe this isn't for me. I can find something enjoyable about it. It's this tension to be negative and people have their feelings about Rachel Ziegler.

But I like to think about it in the sense of I'm still watching this young girl in her early 20s live her dream. And I don't think her dream should come with that much death threats, negativity and things of that nature. I don't think that that is the way that I feel like we should have been so conditioned to be negative

that we aren't meeting it with grace. Everybody just wants to like it's there's more clicks in the negative. There's more clicks and shitting on something than saying like, hey, like, you know, this is what I really enjoyed about this movie. It was great. And then people are like, Cheryl. And it's like, no, like, let somebody enjoy something. So it's like we we come to the understanding that some things are for us, some things aren't. Let that girl live.

I hate that like the actors, like their whole personality has to impact a film at all. Who was it? It was like Ethan Hawksdorff was talking about how she wanted to get rid of her social media. And they were like, if you do that, we're gonna have to bring in basically some sort of influencer that has more followers.

You have to have a certain number of following count in the cast. And I'm just like, why? That's not how we should be casting movies. Yeah. And it's also not how you reach your audiences. You reach your audiences through genuine connection. You put people in front of them who love what they're doing, who love what they're talking about. And yeah, those louder voices are gonna win out

because they are negative and sometimes they're talking about. And yeah, those louder voices are going to win out because they are negative. And sometimes they're funny. But like that doesn't mean that this because this person has the most clicks, the most likes, the most views that they are right or that they're a kind person or that like they'll form your own opinion. Watch something. Like I feel like we need to get back to that. I mean, like, you know what? This dude didn't like this, but I'm still going Gonna go in and form my own opinion. Yeah for sure

So you were at the kids theater, but you were at a kids hotel. Yeah, right. I saw that So what did it like a Nickelodeon resort in Mexico? Yeah, so my friend works for Nickelodeon So she gets like, you know friends and family rates And so they have like a kids resort one in Dominican Republic one in Riv Riviera Maya, Mexico. And my friend had already done the Dominican Republic ones. She was like, you know, she was surprising her kids with the Mexico one. She's like, you know, she's a single mom. She's like, I'm gonna go, like, I'm sure they would love their auntie to be in. I was like, why not?

Like, let's do it. I need a vacation anyways. And I don't know, like, I didn't know what I was expecting, but I knew I wanted to hang out with the boys anyways. I knew they had a water park. I love a water slide. But it was actually like but I knew I wanted to hang out with the boys anyways. I knew they had a water park. I love a water slide. But it was actually like... The response I actually got from my followers as I was documenting it was actually interesting

because everyone knows, like, I don't want kids, but I love hanging out with my friends' kids. It's so fun. And they were like, I love this because I want to still hang out with my friends who don't have kids, and I want to go on vacations with them, but I don't know how to really, like, ask them them or I don't know if they want to do this. And now I feel like I can show them this

because it was like, it's all inclusive. So you got food and drinking. It was actually good food. And I will say like, as you know, they have swim up bars and all of that stuff and the water is just, it's not too deep. So even if you're a little drunk, they're not gonna drown because like it's a stand up, right?

So you're like, you'll keep it an eye on, but you're like, there's no 12 foot area or anything. And also at the water park, obviously there's life parts. I mean, you just hear the whistle going every time. So it's like, and it was just like so much fun. And obviously it's like resorts, you're barricaded and they won't even let you in the resort without like, you have to be even your door. It's like everything is like, so you feel like super secure.

We never left the resort. And I was like, I think I want to sort of like explore this, like moms and aunts vacation. Like how can we vacation with our friends with kids and friends without kids and still have a really good time? Wait, I love that. I do too. Yeah, because there are so many all-inclusive resorts,

like where we got married in Cancun. That resort, honestly, like I would go back without summer. Like it still was a great resort, but I love that they had like zip lining, they have the water slides and all that. And like, as an adult, I still, I love a water slide. I love a lazy river. So would you do it again?

I would totally do it again. Except the lazy river, they don't let you take alcohol in it. I was very surprised. Really? See the one that we were in did and we're drinking our drink. And you know, they have the bucket that after it fills up, it dumps and it dumped.

And I was like, well, I can't drink this now. Gamana's doing was revenge. And I was like, damn it. I guess this is why you're not supposed to have drinks in the lazy river. Yeah. That's how it is. Great with Lodge. And but they do a siren before that bucket tips over and when I tell you My husband have your kids and I take off running. I'm not doing this I don't want a bucket of water dumped over my head. I wanted water over my head. I hate it. I hate it so much

Yeah, and now right That's such a good idea though to go and actually like I love going with my sister and like my sister and her kids. But to take I love when my friends come over, they don't have kids and just come and hang out and watch Barbie or just like do just hang out. I don't want to go out to dinner. I don't want to go do stuff all the time. I want to go and sit on your couch, sit on my couch and watch TV and play on our phone. Yeah, that's what me and Ali do.

Like she'll come over, hang out with Summer, hang out with the cats, but she just like, she gets her fix, you know, and she's obviously at a transitional period in her life, but she's also young. She's in her twenties, you know, you don't need to even think about having kids anytime soon, but she loves to come over, hang out with Summer and do that and it's nice when you have your friends who don't have kids, you know, spend time with your kid.

And it was like, the reason I wanted to be a cool auntie was because I had such a cool auntie in my life that like literally it informed like, I was like, I want to be a cool auntie. I don't even want to be a parent. And I loved it because I really felt like I literally said to them, I was like, I'm creating really good core memories for you. You don't even realize that.

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That place is actually haunted. So we didn't know if it was a ghost or a burglar, right? Outside of that, I'll get to that story, Janet left Chateau at 4 a.m. She said Jason was asleep, and the lamp next to her kept turning on. And she was like, Jason, and he got up and he turned it off and it turned on again. It like, it kept doing this.

No one in the room, but the light kept turning on. So they'd gotten an Uber at 4 a.m. and went home and she still hasn't slept. Yeah, I wouldn't either. Yeah. So that happens after though, right? So we're at the Naughty Pig. We were at Chateau for dinner.

They're staying there. They have a big bungalow. It's like three bedrooms. We go to the Naughty Pig and then were at Chateau for dinner, they're staying there, they have a big bungalow, it's like three bedrooms. We go to the Naughty Pig and then Janet's best friend, Maddie, she was taking photos. And I just saw so much of myself in her in this moment. She realizes, and she has two little kids, same age as Summer and a baby.

And all of a sudden we're at the bar and she's like, oh my God, my phone. And just that panic as a mom, I was like, oh my God, must find phone. And I was like oh my god must find phone and I was like do you think you left it in the room and Janet's a little tipsy and she's got the key and I'm like I'll go back with you and she's like are you sure it's drizzling I'm in heels I don't care I was like I'm going back with you so we walk back we open the room with the key it's like old school where you have to put an actual physical key in we get in She finds her phone like right away. We have a moment.

She was just like, thank you so much. I'm like, no, I'm like, this is me. Like you're thinking about everyone else just taking pictures, making sure everyone's having a good time. They're all capturing the moments that you didn't even think about yourself and you left your phone. And so I'm like, I wanted to come back with you, make sure you got it. So we have a moment. She's like, okay, I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm like, I got to take these shoes off for a few. So I'm walking around barefoot, just like stretching my feet out. We have another moment. We're in there for like five, 10 minutes.

Just the two of us or so I think. All of a sudden, this guy, like good looking guy, dressed nice, comes from the patio. And I'm like, oh my God, I'm so sorry. Like it's a three-bedroom bungalow. I don't know who all of Jared's friends are who are staying. So I feel bad that I'm in like this guy's space. And it was, it reminded me of a moment from Hot Tub Time Machine. Have you seen that movie? Okay, I know you've seen it. But where Chevy Chase, they're like, okay, so like we got to go like the hot tub

right? And he's like, okay, let's go. And then they turn around and he's gone. And they're like, this guy, like what the hell? It was a moment like that where I'm like, so we're going to the naughty pig and he's like, the naughty pig? And I'm like, yeah, for Jared's, the rest of his birthday celebration, we're gonna go and he's like, let's go. I'm like, okay.

And so Maddie and I start walking out, the door closes behind us and we're like, it's kind of weird. We're like, we're just gonna keep going. We get to valet, he's not behind us. We walk out to the street He's not behind us. We get to the bar more like this fucking guy never came So I'm telling Janet and Jason this and we're like, is that a ghost? Was that was that a real person? I'm like Maddie. I'm so glad we were together

Because we saw that there was a human there I'm like, could you describe him to the cops if you had to so she starts describing him? I'm like, okay, we saw the same person. Jason was like, I don't know about this. I'm gonna go back. There was a real person in the room who was not supposed to be there. Apparently he was staying with friends in another bungalow,

drunk, wandered into our bungalow, but then security, like they're searching his pockets, like making sure he didn't steal anything. He was in there for like over an hour. That's crazy. Drank all of their champagne. No. Yes. But it was not a ghost. But then the ghost showed up and is like fucking with them with the lights last night. And I'm like...

How did he get in there with, if you had the hard key? I don't know if we didn't lock the doors behind us or if he just hopped over from patio to... I don't know how the bungalows are there, but it was so fucking weird. That's creepy. What if it really was like American Horror Story? Right? And then he tried to go leave and he tried to leave with you, but you get stuck in the hotel.

Oh my god. No, it was creepy. No. But anyway, I just had to tell that story because it was wild. And so then, oh, we get back to the bar and Ariana, she's looking at me so weird. She gets to me like so closely. And I'm telling the story and I was like, what? I'm like, are you good?

And she's like, I'm trying to see if you're lying. And I'm like, she's like, I can tell when you're lying. And I'm like, obviously you've known me for like 15 years, but I'm like, I'm not lying. Like now I'm smiling because I'm like, no, I swear to God there was a guy there. And then when Jason came back, she's like, okay, so you weren't lying.

I was like, no, I'm telling you the truth. It's so weird. I would have just loved, listen, it was a ghost.. I was like, no, I'm telling you the truth. It's so weird. I would have just loved, listen, it was a ghost. I don't know what to tell you. It was a ghost and that's just where we're at. It was wild. But anyway, just had to tell you that story.

Cause that was crazy. Okay, so going back to mom and kid stuff. So I saw that Chapel Rhone had made some comments about motherhood recently. Did you guys see this? She said on the Call Her Daddy podcast that all of her friends who have kids are in hell. She doesn't know anyone who's happy with children

at this age saying that they don't have light in their eyes and all of these things. And a lot of parents, you know, were obviously offended when she said this because they kind of felt like it was an attack on them. Do we feel that is warranted? I was about to just straight up say a hit dog will holler. But, um...

No, here's the thing. Let that girl have her opinion. They're asking her questions. They threw this person who's never had immediate training a day in her life. I saw something that said, maybe she's doing these interviews like this because she doesn't want y'all to come talk to her Yeah, like there's this again we goes back to the likeability thing where you have to be likable You have to be this and she's like no bitch. I'm just talented right you let me live Let me ride and speaking to the the parent aspect of it Listen, we all have those days where we need to just be honest. We are tired. We are exhausted

It is not all peaches and rainbows. And that's just the honest truth about it. So we're going to feel some type of way because that also plays into that mom guilt that we have about like, oh, well, no, because I'm balanced. I'm healthy. I'm well. I'm this. My kids are great. Yeah, all those things can be true, but your friends can see it from the outside and only hear the complaint part about it. They don't see all of those like fun moments about it, especially your friends can see it from the outside and only hear the complaint part about it. They don't see all of those like fun moments about it.

Especially your friends who at this point don't have kids and they don't interact with children. All they're seeing from you is like, oh my God, today I woke up this morning. My kid woke me up at five o'clock in the morning and they were like, talk to me, talk to me, talk to me. Like all they're hearing is that part. And they're like, they don't think like,

oh, I'm listening with grace. This is just a vent. It's, oh my God, you must hate your life. It's like if you go to somebody that's like unmarried and you vent about your husband and you're like, this motherfucker right here. And they're just like, oh my God, they're getting divorced. They're getting divorced.

They hate each other. No, people disagree. People do not get along 24 seven. They don't enjoy life 24 seven. And like she's answering questions as honestly as she can and how she feels about it. Those are her feelings. She is allowed to have her feelings that is valid for her.

So we can see here again, it goes back to we are always up in arms about something. I know. Y'all, I am in my soft era. I don't want to be bad about nothing. I'ma meet you with grace. And if I don't want to meet you with grace, I'ma walk away. Yeah. And to give her some grace also, I think think she was more referring to, like, her friends in their 20s. Like, I can't imagine if I had a kid.

Like, my mom was 19 when she had me. And she did amazing with the tools she was given, you know? But now, in this day and age, you know, everything's on Google. Like, literally, somewhere out the question, she's like, Mom, just look at it on your phone. And I'm like, our parents didn't have this luxury. So, like, I can't imagine if I was a mom. Yeah, maybe there wouldn't be light in my eyes every day. And I would seem miserable because I'm like, what parents didn't have this luxury. No. So like, I can't imagine if I was a mom. Yeah, maybe there wouldn't be light in my eyes every day.

And I would seem miserable because I'm like, what the fuck am I doing? How often did you see your mom, like, take a break where she just like, like she went out of town, like she sat down, she did something. And I remember, like my oldest, my oldest son, his mom was going out of town and he had said something and I just go. He's like, she's leaving out of town. I was like, well, you're here this weekend. I don't understand. And he goes, well, she's going out of town. So your said something and I just go, he's like, she's leaving out of town. I was like, well you're here this weekend. I don't understand. And he goes, well she's going out of town. I said, your mom's a person.

Yeah. Like your mom is still a person and I think it's easy to not see our parents as people and to see like that they sacrificed all this stuff. They did like gave up their time, gave up their personality. We live in a different time where we have a lot more luxury, a lot more we have parents that are more willing to be there and hands-on. And just, it's a lot, man. Stop judging people. Sit down. And I think that it can all be true,

because it's like, maybe there are people who are miserable with kids, just as like... For sure. Look, I enjoy not having kids, but I know there are people that don't have kids who don't enjoy it. They wish they had. So it's like, all of these things can be true. Like, not every single parent who had kids, like, maybe wish they had. So it's like, all of these things can be true. Like not every single parent who had kids,

like maybe there are some that regret it, but like a lot of them don't. And maybe some people who didn't have kids, like maybe a lot of them are happy, but maybe some of them do regret not doing it. It's like all of it can be true. Yeah, and I mean, you never know until you're in it, you know, it's like, okay, you have two kids, obviously.

I have one and well, yes, three. But you've had two and you have an older son as well. So tell me about that. Okay, coming in to a relationship with a man who already has a kid. That's, I'm very intentional about that. Like, and I've sent an edit to multiple things because that is my son. And he is, I've been with Luke since he was two years old. He's exceptionally important to me.

I've known, the first time I ever met that little boy sitting in the back seat watching his iPad, watching PBS Kids, side-eyeing me from the thing. I was like, that's my dude. And coming into it, I'm coming in as a kid of divorce. My husband, his parents have been married 50 plus years. His, her parents have been married for years and years and years so they don't have like a history of divorce. They don't have that connection with him in that way. Where as a third party coming in never trying to

step on her toes. We've always come into this thing when he and I got serious she and I went out and I said listen, I love you and I Love him and I can't say I love you I can't say that I love your son and be a dick to his mother, right? Like it like I don't want him to ever see me disrespecting her He's never gonna see I'm never gonna watch him disrespect her because I was yeah during you're gonna put some respect on your mom's name and I think that those things are important because I Did come into it,

and I am the third party, and you have to approach it like this. I didn't come in between your marriage. This child was two years old before I came into this picture, but I know how it feels to be like the kid going back and forth, and there's a sense of like, I need to know everything. I need to feel safe. It is my job to not make this about myself, to not be like, oh, let jealousy, where there need not be any, step into the place of

being present for this child, loving him, and just making sure that we are a family. I knew ultimately one day we're gonna have children. I want to make sure that if I want to say, hey Laura, I want our kids to hang out today, there's not gonna be any beef. It's just gonna be like, okay, like we'll switch this day. We'll switch this day. That relationship is as important to me as my marriage because it is about making sure that he comes up feeling accepted. He feels loved. He has that bond with his brothers and sisters and feels welcome and that is why like that is my child. That will be my child to the day I die. And so it's extremely important to me to always be like, no,

like I do not have two children. I have three children because that is my baby. Yeah. I loved what you said recently when y'all were at the school and you're like, our son, and then they thought like, oh wait, this lesbian couple. Somebody, we did, we were at this thing and this lady was looking at us and Lauren,

like we both are always like, oh, like my son, our son, our son. Like that's, it's like, that's our son. Like that's it's like our relationship. Like that's how it is. And so my husband is not there. He's like off somewhere with Zoe. And I realized this couple is looking at us, just looking back and forth, just so confused. And I look at Laura and I'm like, oh, we think we're together.

I saw, no, I think I had two really interesting moments like in this past week. One was at the Nickelodeon Resort because there was this family. And I ended up like talking to the husband at the swim up bar and discovered that him and his wife had been divorced, but they still go on family vacations together because they want their kids to just like still have that family moment. And it was like so interesting because they had that really great dynamic. And right before I had left for Mexico, I had like a barbecue with all of my friends.

And it was just like, it was so modern family because basically my friend, she's divorced her husband. Her husband did step out and he's with this new woman. They have kids. So now her kid now has, you know, brothers and sisters, but we're all at this barbecue together. And it's like, you never at that moment when you find out like, you're like, I hate that guy. Now we're just like eating hot dogs together.

It's not about us at all. It's about all of these kids. Yeah. It is great when you can still like get them together to vacation and have that. It is. And it's like, it's not, listen, I grew up with that, but I had a great stepdad who was like a blueprint for how that was gonna be. And I think it's, not all of those situations are gonna be like that because the problem

in a lot of those situations, there's a lot of ego that exists. There's a lot of like, how can I put myself, like it's not about necessarily the kid in this situation. It's about, I'm still hurt, so let me inflict my hurt instead of trying to like find a way to treat this and to move forward. And a lot of times it's...

It is not easy being a bigger person. It's in the situation. Tell me about it. It's exhausting. It's not, but at the end of the day, we have to do what's best. Like those kids at the end of the day are the most important thing. How they come up, how they connect to each other. And we just have to step outside ourselves in that.

Kind of reminded me when you brought that up about the finale of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and how you saw Moe take Portia, you know, like he went on a trip and then he's like, yeah, this was the first trip, like not as a family and just seen that. Like, it was so awkward that I loved that they kept the awkward silence in their conversation because I'm like, these people were married, what, 27 years? And now you're not, I mean, they do still do the family vacations.

They did like Colorado for Christmas or Aspen, whatever they did. But now you are having separate lives. And what an insane transition. And just like watching that, it was so raw. It was so real. But I'm like, thank you, Bravo, for leaving in that awkward silence. Because you gotta really feel that. And I just like, my heart broke for her.

Because it's like, okay, we are moving on. Yeah. I think that she probably, if she hadn't been such a public figure, I actually think that she probably would have rather existed in a life where it's like we can just live separate lives because I don't want to be apart from you. But unfortunately, it just it's not going to work out like that. And honestly, I don't think he wanted that. I think he was sort of ready to be like, I know he kind of seems like he enjoys

his bachelor pad and all these things. I don't know. I know. And then there's the girl at the airport. And do you think that was set up? I think by set up by the woman, I think that she absolutely was like, yeah, like we're going to be here because why would paparazzi be getting anyone in this little airport, Maurizio? I was in that airport with Jennifer Aniston.

Exactly. The reunion though, it's gonna... I mean, Garcelle, like, I'm just like, I'm so... I really want to know exactly what went down because it seems like... I don't, I mean, I don't know, the whole dynamic with her and Bo's, like, it's really interesting because I was surprised that Bo's... remained silent and watched What Happens Live when Andy said, like, how's really interesting because I was surprised that Bose remained silent

and watched What Happens Live when Andy said, like, how do you feel about Garcelle leaving? Like... Oh, I didn't see that. Yeah, it was like, he asked about it and like... Oh, he missed a whole segment of the whole, like... Oh, I gotta watch that. Yeah, you know, look, Erica Jane,

look, I get why she probably stayed silent, but I don't know why Bose did because I feel like if anything, just like give her props for like kind of opening the door there or anything. I don't know. It was really, really awkward. And I don't know. I mean, we've seen so many storming out on reunions lately. I just did not think that Garcelle, if all people, would be one of the people that went out like that. So it has to be pretty bad.

And I think a lot of that goes back again to, you see a little bit of the hurt in Garcelle when she's going back. She's like, Sutton is crying out for Kyle's attention and doing these things, and she's like, I've been here, like, riding for you. I've been your friend. You haven't had to, like, chase me to be your friend. And so to see somebody kind of walk away from that a little bit in the, like...

And if you've ever been like the not cool girl and somebody is trying to like, or trying to, you wanna get into that circle, but you have like that best friend who's been there for you. I have no idea what that's like. And then it's like, but no, like the cool girls are being really nice to me.

So like, let me go over here and do this, but you're still leaving behind a friend who put a lot of effort into that thing and has already felt isolated. We've seen her talk about feeling isolated feeling alone So to have the one person she thought that she could ride for kind of not have her back when she's had her back Repeatedly, I think for her like that might have been like oh like I truly am in this alone And I would rather walk away and keep living my best life. Focus on the rest of your career your family like I mean she has it All you know she has it all, you know?

She has such an amazing career without the show. I'm genuinely going to miss her presence on the show because I love her. She's always been one of my favorites. That's my fan. I mean, I know I had been talking up into this like I was wondering what the next step was for Griselle. I was like, is there going to be another season? Because I was curious, like where her storyline would go,

because I'm like, can we focus on the sons in their career? I don't know if that's what Beverly Hills is about. So I was a little bit concerned, but now it's like this, again, this isn't how I wanted you to go out. I'm glad she did it on her own terms, because I feel like maybe she did see the writing on the wall or maybe she didn't like,

but I feel like there was always an invitation for her to come back in in this respect, you know? To be fair, we would not have the Hadids in the capacity that we do, had it not been for Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Hmm. Facts.

It's like we could have done it. It would have been a little different. What's the male model path look like? You're right. We didn't get to see Anwar. Yeah. I don't know what his journey was like to the front page of the magazine. That's true.

Sticking with Beverly Hills, did you guys watch this week's episode of The Masked Singer? Because I'm convinced that Yorkie is Erika Jayne. There's no way that Yorkie is not Erika Jayne. Right? 100%. I'm like, come on. No, I don't know who anyone is. Here's the thing. It was the, ahh, in front of Pump Dog and Vanderpump Dogs,

in front of the pink wall that pink I've been fighting in the sir alley and like this has to be someone from Bravo. Yeah. But I had no idea who I just saw that photo of, you know, us at the sir alley. Yeah. And I had no idea, but I'm like, okay, who I'm going to know when I hear the voice and immediately. Yeah.

There's no other voice like that. Yeah. I thought it was Lala at first when they... I first saw the promo where it was like Bette and Mami. How wild would that be if it's Lala? I was like, they're both in front of Andrew Fondad. I was like, gone head, just drop the episode so I can hear the voice and tell you exactly who it is.

But no, and then I heard that and it was like... I could be the one that you do what... I was like, Erica, do you know how do what I have listened to them songs. I know your voice. I went, I saw her in concert in Brooklyn. So yes, I don't know this. I don't even know the names of the songs. I just was like, I was so drunk, but you're so good at your impressions.

So how many housewives have you done? Because like, let's talk about you and your career for a little bit first. You do so much. You host, you act, you impersonate, you do all of the things. But which Housewife has been your favorite to do? So I played Dungeons and Dragons. It's a tabletop role playing game. It is one of my primary jobs.

It's extremely fun. I've done shows like Critical Role and on Critical Role we did an Elden Ring one shot that was based on the game Elden Ring. Go watch it, it's on YouTube. And I played a character called The Prophetess who was based on Mary Cosby. Yeah.

And she would say things like, you were born to parents. There were two of them. And she would just like make these like hours. And so most recently I did a game where I loosely based on Meredith Marks who I adore. So please know that this is on thousand percent with love. I played a giant chicken named Sheridan.

And so I was like, hey, Sheridan, Sheridan, that was a very eloquent way of speaking. She has a very distinct inflection of the way that things roll is very nice. And so it was a very, like, heightened, exaggerated version of her. But my ultimate favorite will always be I had a multi-level marketing salesperson and she was based on Ramona. And so she would say, hi, I would like you to join my business. Would you like to be an independent business owner? So what you do is you give me five points and then you go find four friends

and give them these scrolls and they give you five points and you bring them back to me. And ultimately the money will come back down because it's a trickle down economy. And so it's like, and like, if you look at it for any kind of acting, any of this stuff, for whatever people want to say about Housewives, which I believe people who watch reality TV, there's studies, they're more intelligent

and emotionally intelligent. I saw it on the Instagram. It must be true. So there's this whole thing where if you want to know inflections, dialect, different things, watching these housewives, we have housewives from every region that you could possibly think about. Every kind of accent, voice, Melbourne, all these different things that you reach from. And you do hear these voices over and over again.

And we go and we hear them and then they're in meme form, they're in GIF form. I love that I get to kind of bring that into it and talk about reality television in an extremely nerd space mm-hmm and get that to be we actually I do a show on dropout TV the streaming app called um actually we are doing our third part of our reality TV episodes coming up and we did it's very it's reality reunion it's not reunion. It's not reunion themed, but we dressed like it was a reunion episode. I do have an envelope that I bring on stage that may or probably mostly not has something inside of it. It was really, we were going to print out these big

giant cutouts of like aggressively nice text messages and be like, oh, well you said to me in our text messages the other day, how dare you? You said you were a light in my life and I love being your friend. Did you say, and we were gonna do like, but it's so exciting. It's just like trivia about all the Housewives that this is our third one

and I'm super excited about it. Oh yeah, congrats. All right, we're gonna stick with some Housewives. I'm not caught up yet, but on this week's episode of Real Housewives of Atlanta, we're starting to get the narrative of what went down last year during filming that led to Kenya exiting the show. I saw some comments online that people feel

Kenya has been vindicated. I know both of you can explain this much better than I can, so give me the tea. I mean, basically, the rumors last year were that Kenya revenge porn. She was at her hair spa event, and she blew up this huge photo of the newbie, Brit, and it was, like, naked photos. I don't know if Brit was on only...

I don't know what Brit was doing. What was the recording? Somebody was like, -"That's a penis!" -"Oh, yeah." There was, like, an audio recording. She was calling her a thot. There was a whole bunch. So people were like, "'Why would Kenya do that?' You know?" And so she got suspended from filming.

Right. Kenya claims that she You know, and so she got suspended from filming. Right. Kenya claims that she was being threatened by guns. Britt denied it. She was just like, that never happened. Now we get to this week's episode. They're at a dinner Angela's throwing in some bank vault. And Britt is just clearly going after Kenya. Like Kenya is the longest standing housewife.

It's clear that she wanted to go after her to get her time. And Kenya's like, I don't have time for you, little girl. Basically like, little girl. That's what I feel like. And so there, you know, she's like all upset. And Kenya's like, let me just get out of here. And then she was just like, because Kenya called her a peasant. Because it was a question.

They were playing, you know, those nine messy housewife games. Oh my god. But think about like Secret Lies Mormon wives. I was just thinking about the true box. Pretty much, so she's like, Britt's like, can you be nice to Britt? I didn't even write this question. Like I didn't even write this.

But she's just like, it's like, can you say anything to her in a kind way? And she's like, I'm kind to everyone. And she keeps like, but she gets escalated. Like she starts getting heated about it. Like you're not gonna disrespect me. You're not gonna disrespect me. And King is like, okay, you have a...

And she's like, you're trying to make a moment. And King is like, I am the moment. Oh yes, gone with the wind fabulous. Cause she's like, don't come for the queen. You're a peasant, you know. And she said, tried to say, don't come for me unless I sent for you. And King is like, oh, I love like my catchphrase.

Yeah. Which is funny. They're breaking the fourth wall so much. I love it. It's amazing. Yes. It's real. Yes. Stop pretending you're not on TV. I've been watching you for 10 years. Yes.

I know you're not going to the office every day. Like, let's be so for real. You have 47 businesses and I've never seen... What does go-necked hair look like? I want to know what the office looks like. Show it to me. Why are we still pretending this doesn't happen? So they're sitting at the table. And she like kind of keeps coming for her.

And it just kind of like sours the event. Everybody is in their confessionals like. Like what happened? Why is Britt like amped up on it? Like, I don't understand what happened. And so Kenya's like, let's just get out of here. They're taking their gift boxes. They're going to their cars.

And on the way out, Britt is just like, you know, she can call me a peasant, but I got my pistols. And we're like, wait, pistols? I got whips, I got pistols. And she just starts like throwing this stuff out there. And you're like, why would you bring guns into it? What are we talking?

And it's, you know how like those fights go, like obviously more than anybody, but to see it escalate in that way and for her to keep going, it was definitely a like, it felt like an, I want a moment, I want a thing. And if, listen, Kenya is one of those people where she does not go,

she's not a you go low, I go high. She's a you go low, I go to hell person. And so she came back and she like, I don't know what she did and that's why I don't want to speak on it until like, I'd like they reveal it. But I do like what she said, I don't know what she did. And that's why I don't want to speak on it until like, I'd like they reveal it. But I do like what she said. I don't like seeing my narrative being told by someone else and not having Kenya

in a confessional to tell us her side of the story when we know Kenya. We have been in the trenches with Kenya. Let me I've seen like people have done some hell of ridiculous stuff on Bravo and not had their confessionals completely cut out and like been made an example of in that way. So it's really, it's frustrating in a way to just be like, I'm not used to watching Atlanta scene. King is sitting here chuckling and not knowing why she's giggling. I need to know why she's giggling.

I need to know like how she's feeling. And we're watching her narrative be told by somebody that we don't know and then just it's disjointed and it makes the season, which is a really great season and a really great reboot feel disjointed and it makes the season, which is a really great season and a really great reboot, feel disjointed to not have her perspective. And it's also not fair because she's been on four episodes. She's gonna be on this fifth because the fifth one is her. She's basically been on half the season at this point.

For her to not even get the chance to have these confessionals is, like, not okay. And so I think that she's been vindicated. I think, I don't know, I feel like probably my over an apology. I mean, you know, she had to go on an apology tour. But like, I don't know. Like, it doesn't seem like she's basically saying I wasn't protected. And it feels like that.

If someone said pistols around me twice, I would be like, this is not okay. Are you going to do something about this? And even in the car when they're leaving, you hear her mics to launch. She's like, did you hear this girl talking about guns? Like this is, this girl's gotta go. Like she clearly was like, this is not okay. Totally.

And she was suspended. She wasn't like terminated. Like it was a suspension. But I'm like, I'm hoping that they did that in a way to be like, let's let the viewers watch this and see this. And then we can kind of like walk it back once those opinions are formed in it.

But it's also too touchy of an issue to just be like, well, this is what Kenya did. While also we haven't seen what Britt did. We haven't seen the provocation. We haven't seen how this got to this tit for tat level. Well, Britt turned off her comments. I did go, cause of course before the episode I wanted to see and then after her comments were limited, I would say.

Interesting. You know what else I saw that was interesting? Rebecca Minkoff recently revealed that she has a floozy clause in her will. So apparently if her husband tracks up with some young fling after she dies, that asset's immediately transferred to a trust for the kids so the woman can't get access to her money. What qualifies a floozy though? I don't know.

Like, is this brilliant or is this like a mechanism to control your husband from beyond the grave? That's crazy. It is, because... I've never heard of this. I just saw that and I was like, wait, what? Yeah. A floozy.

Floozy claws. Who's saying floozy? What about hussy? I like the hussy claws. It rolls better. It's just too broad because like my definition of a floozy is not the definition, your definition of a floozy. Right.

You're showing cleavage. And just because someone's young doesn't mean they're a floozy either. Like, you know, like what does it mean? That's just such a random, like it is controlling to a point where it's- Right, you're like, when I die, I still control you. Yeah.

Like, I, listen, I'm not here. You better not bring her to my house. But that's neither here nor there. Go buy a new house. Go do something elsewhere. Yeah. She's basically saying you're going to have to get an A.I. doll, clone my personality into the A.I. doll, and that's going to be your wife after I die.

What was that Black Mirror episode where it was like they put the personality and then you could ultimately put it into the body. Oh my God, Black Mirror. Oh, it's about to come back. Yeah, can't wait. So good. Are you guys watching White Lotus? I haven't watched last night's episode,

but yes, I am watching it. I need to catch up. The Southern charm influence makes me chuckle. DM, I don't watch Southern charm either. Give me your perspective on that side of the Craig and Paige breakup, like storyline. What's going on on Southern Charm? After watching the reunion, I'm just sort of like, Craig,

you're not the victim in this. And actually now knowing that Craig has been dating someone. I mean, it's been three months since the breakup. He's now with this girl, supposedly Natalie. Is this the same Natalie he was dating before Paige? Because he said something about the timing of this event. And every time somebody goes, Natalie, I'm like, Natalie, Natalie, Natalie.

And Craig was dating a Natalie before, like while Paige was still on Summer House and was still like, it was the whole thing with, what's that hot man? Andrea? Andrea. It was when that whole thing was going down, but Craig was like, I'm stale doc and then Natalie.

And it was- Oh, yes, I do remember that. I wonder if it's that it's her. Like, I know I don't remember. She never got like a last name on Southern Top because the women don't matter. But it's where's the lie? Where's the lie? If we're going to talk about shows on Bravo, it is. I am grateful for the Summerhouse Southern Charm war right now.

I want to see the opposing opinions. I want to see the women of Summerhouse are in a position where they actually like get to use their voice. Their voices are heavily featured. The women of Southern Charm, their voices are so contingent on the men. And like, if they speak out of turn, then all of a sudden they're getting whacked in the public.

It's just like being like, you show the F up on vacation for your man. Like, bro, come on. Like there is such a, there is a protection of men that happens on a certain channel that I enjoy watching. And there's always a matriarch-type figure that sits and watches, and they protect the male figure that is involved in the situation. Because of course, the floozies are in the wrong. Whoever you're talking about, I have no idea. But, you know, speaking of the men of a certain network, we've skipped the Jack's Hole here at Shenanigans

for the last couple of weeks, but this week is going to make up for it because none other than Mr. Jack's Taylor is my Jack's Hole yet again. So he did this cover story for Us Weekly. Did you guys see it? He said a lot of stupid things. A lot. And he said he's not going to talk negatively about Britney,

but then he proceeded to do exactly that. Said he felt blindsided by Britney wanting a divorce, and if things were so bad, why was she trying to have another kid? Why was she wanting to have sex with him? Like, all of these things, like, it's called trauma bonding, okay, Jax? So, like, come on. Literally, this fucking guy. Like, okay, cool, you're sober now. Good for you.

You're still an asshole. You're still a Jax-hole. And not had to go to him. But I've also got a Jax-hole number two. Oh, two. So, the state of Utah, the entire state, okay, They became the first state to fully ban LGBTQ plus Pride flags in government buildings, in schools, starting May 7th. Like, why has it got to be on my birthday? So you got to get a real ID by May 7th, and this is starting May 7th.

That local government buildings will be fined $500 a day, just like right ahead of Pride Month. You know? June is coming up and they're doing this. And I have to say though, props to local leaders in Salt Lake who have illuminated the city. They have the county buildings and like rainbow lights and all of that. It's like it's not a flag, you know, but we're still going to show our support.

And also, so this is like for the flag band each night, they're doing this like rainbow thing. But also Bronwyn, Real Housewives of Salt Lake, my girl, she was out at the State Capitol building over the weekend protesting in a very chic rainbow parka. And we love to see it, you know, visibility matters. And- She's always walked the walk,

which is why we love Bronwyn. No, I love her. She was such a great addition to the show. I can't wait to see what's next on that show. I'm fully sucked in and I need to go back and do a rewatch starting from the first season. I know I missed it. I think it's also so important to note in these situations. We're there's a lot of stuff that's happening in the world right now and it is, yes, I also we speak about silence as being complicit, but I think we have to make as much noise as possible. Trans rights are human rights

and we have to be able to say that clear-throated and represent. We are all out here, if one person is losing their rights, no one, the person that took those rights is not above taking your rights away. The person that came and said, this person is not a person because of this reason, this person doesn't deserve to exist because of this reason, that just trickles down.

Because ultimately they only think that one thing is gonna be right and they're gonna find another reason to take you out, to take you out, to take you out, support each other, have each other's backs, be there for each other. And just remember, they're trying to exhaust you. They are trying to exhaust you. They are going to throw as much stuff at the wall to see if it sticks because you're going to get tired and you're going to get worn out and you're not going to want to go after it. But you have to keep going because at the end of the day,

our lives, our children's lives, everything depends on this. And we have to be able to stand with each other or we're all falling down. Yeah, for sure. Amen. Amen. And thank you so much for being here. I'm so glad we finally gotta do this.

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