Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - “I’m Not High Enough For this Conversation” w/ Golnesa Gharachedaghi

Episode Date: January 23, 2026

From Shahs of Sunset to her return on The Valley: Persian Style, Golnesa “GG” Gharachedaghi opens up about what she learned during her time away from reality TV cameras, why coming back feels different this time around, and why she turned down other TV opportunities like “The Traitors.” She talks motherhood, growth, and how becoming a mom has reshaped her priorities both on and off camera. Golnesa also breaks down her life today—from where she’s living and her daily routine to going into business with both of her ex-husbands, including how she got started on OnlyFans and what people get wrong about it. She gets candid about relationships, revisits what really happened with her ex-husband Dennis and the friend betrayal that followed, and shares where things stand now. Plus, Golnesa dishes on The Valley: Persian Style, her evolving friendships with Reza and MJ, who from Shahs of Sunset she’d like to see make an appearance on the new show, and why people are often surprised when they meet her in real life. And yes—she addresses Bravo hookups, being waitlisted on Raya, and potential crossovers. Tune in to find out! Follow us: @scheana @scheananigans Guest: @gg_golnesa Purchase your very own copy of the NYT Best-selling book MY GOOD SIDE at www.mygoodsidebook.com!Episode sponsors:No gimmicks. No fads. This is your sign to join today. Head to weightwatchers.com/goodasgold to get a special offer for my listeners.Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.Produced by Dear Media.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The following podcast is a dear media production. From Vanderpump rules to motherhood and everywhere in between. Warm up the kettle. It's time to spill some tea. Let's get into some shenanigans with Shea Shea. And we are back getting into some more shenanigans. Today's guest is someone you definitely know. And if you don't, you definitely will after this episode.

She's been one of the most talked about unapologizing. and real personalities in the Bravo universe for over a decade. You first met her on Shaws of Sunset where she never shielded away from saying exactly what was on her mind. And now she's back on our screens in a new chapter on the Valley Persian style. She's a mom, a businesswoman, my friend, and someone who's lived a lot of life both on and off camera. So today she's here to talk about growth, motherhood, relationship.

reality TV and yes, some very iconic moments along the way. Please welcome my girl Golnessa, also known as Gigi. How you doing today? I'm good. Thank you for having me. Thanks for being here. It's been a minute since we've gotten into some shenanigans. New studio.

Upgraded girl. Upgraded your whole life. Both of us. Thanks. I have to say, it is so nice having you back on my TV. Thank you. It was a long time, what, like five years? Five years.

Too long. Too long. But it felt like somehow, I mean, I don't know, maybe it was the pandemic, but it's like it went by fast because I feel like I was just watching you yesterday. But I was like, dang, it's been a minute. I mean, it probably went by fast for you because I feel like when I came off TV, you were like at the height of your drama on TV. Right. And you were like living every minute by minute like that. So it was really hard to just let time fly.

We're raising kids. I know. Yeah. Our kids are exactly one year or two years and one day apart. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. One year. Yeah. One year apart. One year one day. That's crazy. Yeah, it is crazy. And we're all in the valley now apparently.

I know. So, I mean, gosh, you've been doing TV for a long time. I mean, you've given so many iconic moments and one-liners. And one of the ones that I had to take note of that has stuck so far this season was, can I get kissed before I get fucked? I mean, I walked right into a party and MJ is like, well, we've all been talking about. Right. Well, Jesus.

Hello. I know. Like a little date, you know, like, hello. But yeah. But looking back, were you appreciative she gave you a heads up right away? It did take me a minute. And I think in that moment, like you can see in the conversation, like at first I'm tense with her.

And I'm like, I kind of relaxed a little bit because I do know MJ and I know she has a big heart. She just, her delivery is something. Sometimes a little funny. Yeah. It's like you just walk into a party like, we're all talking about you. Well, you know, can I get kissed first? Yeah. So take the line.

Yes, right? Did it feel like she had your back even if her execution of that was not perfect? 100%. I think she didn't want me to be shocked once, you know, it gets through to me. And then she says, oh, well, you know, I didn't tell you. And I'm like, well, why didn't you tell me everyone was talking about me? So it's kind of like a double-edged sword. Yeah.

And also it's like, we've all done this for so long. You know that those things are going to be. Right. It talks about. So you get it. Do you feel like this version of the Valley Persian style is more you, just a different chapter? Huh. I don't know.

I don't know. I really don't know. It's just so far it's a lot better because it's just a different dynamic. I really enjoy having a larger cast. I enjoy having a lot of straight men on the cast as well to bounce ideas off of sometimes. Like, you know, if I want to. say like, I'm looking for a guy to date like this. My gay besties are going to give me a different piece of advice than straight men

and relationships were. So it's kind of nice to have this different dynamic shift. I do like that. Nice. It is nice when you have more people because Shaw's was always a pretty small cast. Yeah. And they're all my friends. Yeah.

So this one's good. Yeah. And that makes it hard too because. You lose them? Yes. I know. One's already checked off the list. Oh.

Oh. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. How much longer do we have to wait to find that out? I mean, I feel like people have been kind of watching this dynamic build a little bit. And, you know, people see it in the trailer and kind of going off on a person. And there's a particular person who's just always annoyed with life in every scene she does with her husband, with people. I think I can guess.

And I can only take so much. So don't push. Yeah. So after taking a big step back from TV, just after Shaw's, ended, what would you say were some of like the biggest lessons you learned at that time about yourself? I think I learned a lot, mostly, mostly because I think I was also raising a child. Yeah. And I learned a lot of patience. And I learned that there was a much bigger world out there than what I thought people were just always paying attention to me. That's what my mind frame was.

Like everyone's focused and they're going to talk about me. They're going to make fun of me. They're going to ridicule me. And I just realized people really don't care. They have so. much going on in their own lives and it was time to just take a deep breath. I enjoyed not being on TV. Yeah. I liked it. And that's kind of the chapter I'm in right now where it is nice to have this break because we did it for so long. Yeah. You know, I mean, you guys, was it nine or 10 seasons? We did nine seasons, but 11 years. Right. Because of a whole strike and all this stuff that was going on. I mean, I met you in your first season, which was we were going into our third. I think at that time. And then we like caught up to you guys. and then passed you at one point because of the strike.

Yeah. I think it was the programming. It was like you guys were supposed to be on this time on this day. And then we ended up taking it and you guys got pushed so much further. Yeah. Crazy. But we also ended up getting unionized and got fat checks because of it. So. Well, that's incredible.

But yeah. No, you were one of my very first friends in this world and like genuinely. And that was like almost 15 years ago. Yeah. You looked like a little like this little. puppy in this room. You looked like a puppy with your tail between your legs. You walked into this huge, like, red carpet event. I don't even remember what it was for, us weekly or one of these magazines. No, I think it was up front. Up front. Yes. And I'm like, she's so cute. And I saw you talking to some

exact. So I was like, I'm just going to go talk to her. And you were so sweet. I was like, okay, saw her in the housewives of Beverly Hills. You know, there's some stuff being said about her, but that's the one I'm going to go and be nice to. Yeah. I just found it's so funny. because I left it in Palm Springs, so I won't be able to pop it up for this episode. But I just found photo booth pictures of you and I from that Bravo event. No way. Yeah. Oh, the upfrents were something else.

Oh, my gosh. It was crazy. The Kardashians. Everyone would be at the uplands. Yeah. That was a big one. But that year, I did not know anyone other than you, Mike. I think I had just met MJ.

Yeah. But it was like, I was a fish out of water and you always had my back. You're like, who's mean to mean to you? Who's asked who I need a kick? I always said that. I got your back. This Bravo con, I thought, you know,

some stuff was going down. I was like, I know, I got my earrings out. Tell me where she is. I will get her. No, I loved it. It was like,

you and two of the housewives. They're like, okay, who's starting true with you? I'm like, it's a rumor, but I love that y'all have my back. Thank you.

Do you think taking time away from filming help to bring you guys closer? Yeah. Yeah. Especially for me and Reza. I feel like, Reza's a little potster.

I mean, come on. He loves a little drama when I was, cameras are up. So I think when the cameras went down, he and I were able to just find a friendship that was like real, not like for cameras or for a reason. Right. Other than like we got along. Yeah. So it was nice. That's great. Yeah. And sometimes a break is needed. Absolutely. Yeah. Especially when you're a new mom. Like during COVID, it was hard. Yes. It was hard. Absolutely. Yeah. Do you feel coming into this season that you're approaching it differently than you

did before? Does it feel like riding a bike? You're just like, I'm back in it. I got it. it. It's different. It's definitely different, especially because there's a new cast. It's a new production company. Right. I feel like, you know, you and I were just talking about, like, our kids are wanting them to go to certain schools and have certain friends. And there's a certain image that we as moms also have to protect. So it's kind of hard to be completely transparent with my life for cameras and want to reserve that ability from my kids. So there's a lot of, you know, it's a roller coaster. Yeah. It's reality TV, right? I know. I'm thinking about that as we're applying to private schools right now. It's like everything you say is being watched. I know. I know everyone's going to be like, oh, she spends four grand a month on weed. Great. Yeah. Bring the kid into our school. Sure. But hey, if you can spend it on tuition too. Did you have any hesitation to come back to the show or was it an easy yes? I said I would never ever go back to any type of TV unless it was something related to being being Persian life.

back. Yeah. I didn't have any interest on the competition shows. Yeah. I'm just, I'm not really, I don't have that stage presence that I don't think I do. Yes, you do. I don't think I do. Come on. You on traders would be incredible. Like, they asked me and I was like, it's just not for me. And I'm legally

deaf, so I'm like, I'm the whole time, but I'm like, wait, what did they say? I did know that. It's not going to work. It's not going to work. What did the conversations look like when they came to you with this idea for the show, especially now that your son is older? I was very hesitant. I was very reluctant about it because I didn't want to get into something that was going to be similar to Shaz of Sunset.

We started a reality show with Shaz at a time where reality TV was based on kind of being messy and dirty going after people's lives, attacking them. And then in the next breath, they're your best friend and you're kicking with them. Right. And it's really psychologically hard. It's really hard to keep up with because those feelings are genuinely real for us. when we're going through it. And, you know, if you don't get over it, you're being dramatic. And then if you get over it too fast, you're faking it.

And so I was very worried. I was very worried. I would lose friendships. You know, some of these friends of mine are my son's friends' parents. So I was scared. But, you know, I was like, you know, this is it. This is who I am. Yeah.

I'm going to be honest. Whatever happens, happens. Yeah. Well, it's good to have you back on. Thanks, girl. What parts of yourself did motherhood had soften and what did it make you more protective of? It made me realize that everyone's just a kid inside and they're a product of their upbringing

and how they were raised. I give people a little bit more opportunities to just, you know, have that space to say, I'm raising my son a certain way and he might turn into XYZ the same way I turned into XYZ. Yeah. We are all those walking children. So I learned a lot of patience from my son. But I became very, very protective over criticism.

I learned that that's a big one. Yeah. Yeah, you were very calm on the swing with Sky when she approached you about smoking weed in her house. And she's like, oh, I thought you were going to bite my head off. Unfortunately, you guys don't see in that same scene, she gets the joint from me and starts smoking it herself. And I don't know why that doesn't get shown by, yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So double standards are a thing. Especially, you know, to me, these are the same people who are drinking alcohol every single day.

Right. They're at home having their red wine and their children are sitting right there. My son has never seen me drink a sip of alcohol in my life. You know, so I'm very protective of that. So Sky can just the sky. Mm-hmm. Do you smoke weed in front of your kid? Never. Okay. No. Yeah. I never have either. No. He's never seen it. Nothing. She will never see me do. I'm doing dry January. completely. But that's one thing. I'm like, no, no. You're not going to know what that is. And that's, yeah. He walked in on me a couple of times. I was rolling it. But like, I have these really high up shelves. So you can't see into what I'm doing. Yeah. But he was like, what are you doing? And I said, well, you know, mommy has, you know, autoimmune disease and I have a lot of pain.

And this is some of my natural medicine that I have and it helps me. I said it's very, very spicy. You know, so. Yeah. No, that's all you do. Tell like something spicy. They won't want to back with it. Yeah. It's very spicy. I learned that a couple years ago. They're like, just say everything's spicy. Everything is spicy. Sour patch kids are really spicy. Then they try one and she's like, it's not spicy at all.

I'm like, fuck. Yeah, you don't want it. It's spicy. Right. How do you balance being honest with your past and wanting to set an example for your kid? That's a hard one, especially the fact that I used an anonymous donor to have a child. So transparency and honesty are a big thing. I think we have to navigate how we serve that, you know, honesty and transparency.

So it's not too difficult because I feel like I'm naturally real. And I think that's why I was always good at reality TV. I didn't have the filter. Yeah. But I'm also like cautious sometimes. Like I said, you know, I want my kid to not have a bad image on him. Right. Based on some of my mistakes and my fuckups.

I mean, I'm only human and I'm not going to be fake in the scene just because there's cameras. So if I have a feeling, I'm going to express it. Yeah. If not, then it's not a TV show. No. And I think that's why you make great TV, but also, like, people have to respect you because you are never fake. You tell it like it is.

You've just, like, you've always been real. And that's one thing I've always loved about you. And I strive to be more of that because that's something I struggle with at times. That's why you're always getting into trouble because you're honest. I know. But then it's like, I don't want to hurt someone's feelings. And then it's like I take both sides and I flip-flop. You want to be liked.

You want to be liked. Yeah. I did in the past. I think in the last year, especially even more in the last six months, I've done a lot of personal growth where I really give a fuck anymore. Yeah. And as long as my kids taking care of and I'm happy, you know, the family's good. Then that's what matters more than everyone liking me. You know what I think it is?

It's when we say I don't give a fuck anymore. And I think the actual opposite applies. I think we've learned how to give a fuck. Yeah. And not give a fuck. fuck about what's not relevant. Our priorities are shifted. We finally give so many fucks about ourselves that the outside noise doesn't bother us.

Yeah. I think that's a beautiful thing. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. On that note, we're going to take a little break and be right back. Okay, we've all been guilty of joining the new year, new me train. Am I right?

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Are we officially in the valley? Yes, I'm still in the valley. Okay. I downsized from six bedrooms to five. Six? Yes. How many were a closet? My house was very, very big.

It was unnecessarily big. Yeah. When I first saw it, it was such a steal. It had such a gorgeous view. It was up in the Encino Royals. Oh, I love that area. It was gorgeous. So I was like, hello, I'm going to take this house.

But the fires happened. The landlord wanted me out. She also wouldn't let me film there. So you know how that goes. If you can't film at home, half your life is not on camera anymore. So I did move a little deeper into the valley. I'm closer to MJ now. Okay.

I'm still south of the boulevard. Yeah. I managed to stay south of the boulevard. So I'm in the hills. I'm happy. We have a big house, massive backyard. Yeah. So it's great for the dogs.

Yeah. Our friends live in like the Woodland Hills Tarzana. But I mean, the house they have. It's beautiful. The backyard. I'm like, oh, why didn't we go a little more west? That area is all about land, which I love because I'm about to get a pig as well. So I just love the fact that I have all the land.

I love that. Yeah. Yeah. I think eventually we will need more land. But it was like for now we needed more house. Yeah. We're outgrowing our house. And closer to schools.

Exactly. And between the schools we're looking at, I mean, some are like a less than 10 minute drive. Yeah. It's so convenient. When it's every day, drop off pickup, drop off pickup. Yeah. Oh, I don't blame you, girl. Oh, I know.

It's a lot. Just the whole private school process. It is a lot. The tours. The kissing of ass. Yeah. All of it. I shouldn't say that, but they all hear it.

But we do. We have to do what we have to do. Yeah. You know, as we care about our kids, and I think the schools like to see that we care. Yeah, absolutely. If someone met you today with no Bravo context, what would surprise them most about who you are? That I just tasted coffee for my first time three days ago in Colombia. Shut up.

Yeah. What? Yeah. No way. I've never tasted coffee in my life. But I mean, one in Colombia. Right? The real stuff.

Crazy. Yeah. Okay, so then what does your day-to-day look like? It clearly doesn't start with coffee. Are you a match-a-girl? Well, I'm an early bird. I'm usually up around 4.30 every morning. But workout?

No, I just really enjoy being up early. What? What time do you go to bed? I just love it. I go to bed around 9.30, 10. So I get a lot of the hours. I do get my hours in. I go, I have a personal trainer, so I go there and I start doing personal training.

Okay, so yeah, you're up early to work out. Well, yeah, but that's like around after I drop off my kids. get at school and then I go. Yeah. What are you doing between 430 and 730? I just lay in bed and do nothing. I just, I'm on my phone. I get to go on Instagram. I get to look at emails. My dogs are still sleeping. My cats are still sleeping. My son is sleeping. The world is at peace. Yeah. It's nice. It's a really nice silence at that time. Do you naturally wake up at that time? Yeah. Even if I go to bed at like midnight or 1 a.m. I'll end up like 5.30 will be the latest. I'll wake up. Wow. So like the sun is never up.

Never. Wow. Never. That's amazing. Yeah. See, I still to this day have to set an alarm or who knows when I'll wake up. Well, that's good. Everyone's different.

Everyone's bodies are different. But I wish I could just naturally wake up or even have an alarm for 5 or 6 a.m. Because it would be my dream to wake up, go downstairs, work out before my daughter wakes up. So that's already knocked out. But I try to do it. And it's like 6 a.m. and I'm just like, I'll just work out after. Is she what is your daughter an early bird?

Or? She gets up between six and seven. Okay. But she'll come and crawl in our bed. Oh. And then we get up at like 7.15, which I'm, once we go to kindergarten later this year, we'll have to start the routine a little earlier. But right now at preschool drop off, it's quite flexible.

It's like 8.15 is a suggested time. Today we got there at 845. Eli's in kindergarten now. So his is early. It went from a 9 o'clock drop. off of preschool to now 740. So I was like, oh. Yeah, I know.

That was the one thing my mom, I remember her saying to me years ago. She was just like, Sheena, I don't know how you're ever going to be a mother. You can't wake up in the morning. And I'm like, that is probably the hardest part of motherhood for me. Really? He's getting up early every day. Well, that's okay.

What about Brock? See, lately he's been doing so many building projects that he's staying up a lot later and he's not good on little sleep. So he's just grumpy in the morning. when I'm like, we're a team. You do the breakfast. I do the hair. What's his sign?

He's a Gemini. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. And I'm a Gemini Rising. Oh, what's your sign? I'm a tourist. Gemini Rising. So your daughter's a tourist?

Oh, my gosh. And my mom is a tourist. There's a lot of tourist energy in your house. Yeah. With a Gemini Rising? What about your daughter? She is, I know her moon is a Libra. I don't know what my son is.

Ari's rising. Ari's rising. Yeah, so she's a little feisty one. A little feisty. A little feisty. I was in the sail. Firecracker. Yes. Okay, I have a question that I'm going to ask you because you're here and not MJ. So now we're using full names on the show. It's not GG and MJ. But Mercedes with an S on Instagram, Mercedes is Mercedes. It's Mercedes. Mercedes. Is that just the Persian spelling of Mercedes with an H on the end now? I would say Mercedes is the American spelling of Mercedes.

Okay. Okay. Got it. Yeah. So I would say the American spelling of Mercedes. Okay. Okay. Got it. Yeah. So I would say the Americans fucked it up. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Is this like some sort? I was like, was it always an age? And I'm like, there's no way.

And I looked on our Instagram. I'm like, no, her Instagram's an ass. Okay. I like that though, that you guys have changed. That even feels like more of like a grown-up. I didn't want to be Gigi in Shaw's of Sunset. I think it was just what was easier for certain people to pronounce. Yeah.

And I turned into Gigi because my niece would call me Gigi. And they were like, do you have any nicknames? I was like, my niece calls me Gigi. They're like, we'll go with that. Yeah. So I got Gigi. But no, I love my first name and I love my last name because it just, I love, I love making life a little bit complicated for people. For all of the listeners, how do you pronounce your full name?

It's a hard one. It's a hard one. Karachadokie. Close enough. Okay. Close enough. I'll take it to me. Okay.

We just go with Golnessa. Yeah. I mean, I've been friends with you guys for so long. And then, yeah, when I noticed that, it felt almost like it was like a Mandela effect situation where I'm like, was it always like that? Have I been spelling her name wrong? I've been the whole 15 years.

Like, you know that movie? Shazam? Yeah. Kazam? With Shaq? Oh, okay. Yeah. See?

But then what about the Sinbad movie? With the what? The genie. Sinbad? Shazam. Oh. Not a real movie. There's this whole thing online about

Sinbad in a Shazam movie, but it's like this Mandela effect. Like that movie never existed. It's not a thing. No, I remember it. He like, he wore the pants, the culots, the gold and purple. He looked like,

look the Abu, little Abu from Aladdin. That's how he would dress in Shazam, right? Kazam. Kazam. I don't know. I thought it was Shazam. I've never heard of this. Yeah.

I remember Sinbad was something. Yeah. Yeah. I do remember that. Crazy. Anyways. How did that come up? I'm not high enough for this conversation.

Can we smoke in here? Okay. I want to talk only fans. Uh-oh. How did you get started there? And how coming from Bravo were you able to build a male audience? Or is it a female audience on OnlyFans? Yeah.

I mean, Bravo, we have, what, like 87% female demographic? I think my following is 94% female. Yes. It's not going to work out. Yeah. But how's it going? I don't know how successful I'm going to be or continue to be on on only fans because I'm very prude. People don't realize that about me because of my personality so, you know, wild.

But I'm very square, very prude. So most of those pictures that I have been using for like my only fans and stuff like that is stuff that I had done in photo shoots for my sex story company. But, yeah. I mean, I got intrigued because of the. feet thing at first. Yeah. And Rez is like, he always tells me I have a really pretty feet. He's like, I grew up really nice feet.

I'm like, okay. You know, so maybe like I'll sell my feet, but then that turned into like, you know, a little ass, a little side boop. Uh-huh. Okay. It's only fans. Well, I mean, they're girls making millions. A lot. A whole living.

So, yeah, I know. Were you surprised by like, being able to gain a bit of a male fan base coming off Bravo? Mm. Or no, because you have your intimately Gigi. I think I have a good male demographic simply because of my personality. Yeah. I'm not like one of those little girly girls that I only have a female demographic.

I think my real and kind of hardcore personality has always sort of attracted men as well. So, yeah. No, I just had to build on it. I think coming out with the sex toys. you know, I kind of started building a male demographic as well. But it's not easy. We have a lot of females watching us. Right, I know.

I know. Judging us. Right when I saw that, I was like, how do you make that kind of switch? Yeah. That's a great question, Tina. I definitely thought about it in the pandemic. Like, also, after I had summer, there was a point where only one boob was producing milk. And I'm like, there's got to be some market for this on only fans.

You would have made so much on Only fans for, just a one milk titty. Yeah. I have content banked if I ever need to go down that route. Oh my gosh. But I was like, my following's all women. I'm like, I would have to like partner with an only fan's model to like gain the audience.

I know. I am. I love that. You're a little princess. Aw, thanks. So what other business ventures are you working on right now? Is intimately Gigi going good, working with Dennis? How is all of this?

Oh my gosh. Our relationship since we got married has just been very volatile. Yeah. It's just there's a trust that I'll never have again for him. And it's hard. It's hard when you have 13 years of just being best friends with somebody. And then all of a sudden, it's almost like you feel like you never knew them. So it's been really icky. Yeah. I mean, obviously that all ended very publicly. Yeah. I mean, I'm working on some other things. There's something coming up this season. So I'm not going to say. But it is, it is. It is. It is, you'll love it. As soon as you see it, you'll be like, oh, wow, I can't believe she did that. But something's coming up. And I'm also working on something else with my other ex-husband. Okay. Which, you know, there's another season. Hopefully everyone will see. We're getting into the restaurant business. He has like a chain already in Florida. And he's going to bring it to the West Coast. So we got some locations and we're going to start doing that. So I just love to work with all my ex-husbands. Yeah.

Yeah. I love that. I mean, I'm still cool with mine. We haven't, we haven't worked together yet, but he did offer. Yeah. Edit videos and stuff for my YouTube channel. I was like, I don't know if I'm going to work with my ex-husband, but never know. I like that. I mean, you spend so much of your time getting to know someone personal. It's nice, even if you take space for a minute, to kind of maintain that respect and love for each other. Whatever happened to the ring. I still have the ring. Oh. I still have the ring. Yeah. Nice. I mean, unfortunately, I don't think diamonds have much value anymore at all. It's all about lab diamonds, which will lead into a little bit of what you'll see from me next. season. But yeah. So I don't know. But I'm going to hang on to it because I fought for like almost two years in a divorce for that ring. Yeah. So I'm keeping it. It's like six and a half carrots. Yeah. No, it's massive. Yeah. I was very big. Yeah. Well, I mean, I'm glad that this is all working out for you. Working with the exes. Businesses, you clearly are a businesswoman. Like everything

that you've done, it's just very you. And I love when you can center something around you and profit off it. Thanks, I think it's great. Thank you. Okay. So speaking of the ex, what exactly happened? Because it seemed a little confusing. It seemed like you felt like he cheated on you within that first week of getting married. But he was like it was after we got an old.

But then he got engaged. And wasn't this Mike's ex? Yeah. It's very, very, very messy. It's very Jerry Springer. Yeah. It's very vanderbump rules of you guys. So, okay.

So Dennis and I dated. 13, 14 years ago for a couple months. I broke up with him. It was from then on, it was just, we were just like best friends. I started dating a guy in 2024. And things were going great. And I thought things were going really, really well

until I found out some information. And that information was that he was still living with the mother of his kids. Mind you, his kids are teenagers. And so he never moved out. And then, I'm hearing another places that, no, they're still very much together. I get a hold of her. I talk to her. She's very much like not saying that they're not together. Wow. Yeah. So I'm Nica. I don't get mad. I get even type of a person.

Yep. I've always been that too. And I know he knows how close I am with Dennis. He would come over to Dennis's house and he would always say to me, like it's kind of weird how close you guys are. So I was like, ah. Yeah. That's the one. And I know Dennis has always had a thing for. for me. He's asked a few times over the years to try to rekindle. And this time I kind of let him on. And we went to Vegas for a big group trip for our friend's birthday. Paulina was there. And we just ran and we decided to get married. We ended up getting married. And came back from Vegas. Things kind of felt a little weird. It was like, what do? Kind of a thing. But it was still like, he's like, let's look for houses. And then he said, you just move into my house. And

and I'm not into his lifestyle. He is new money. And he loves for people to know he has money. So his cars are like those giant Rolls Royces and the houses have to be like Puff Daddy's backyard. And it's not my cup of tea to me. I like money that looks like a cowboy driving an old beat up Ford. You know what I mean?

Yeah. So there were issues there. He was complaining to my dad, why would she marry me if she hates everything about me? And then it was just, let's get this on old. This isn't working out. But he was so eager all of a sudden one day. He's like, listen, I talk to the person.

They're coming to your house right now to get. I was like, wow, this is weird of you. I said, you're so eager to be with me. Then all of a sudden, when I wrote to him, I have the text. I said, it sounds like you're lining up your next marriage. And he never responded. Sharanoff three days later, he posts on Instagram that the ring that I had designed for myself because I just wanted a band.

He had put on her finger and proposed. That's just so insane. It's not even like he just hooked up with her. He proposed within days of an annulment. And to make things worse, which Reza always talks shit about. So the chapel that we walked into, the address was like 5,55 in Vegas. So we came back and got 5,55 tattoos. Oh.

Right? He gets it covered with her. And on the other side, get numbers two, two four or two. 244, two, gather today, tomorrow, forever,

some shit like this. I don't know. How weird. On the other side. That is so weird. And just, I mean, the energy that he had

when he came into like both of the scenes that we've seen him in so far, it was just like, ruthless. Oh, it's not a big deal. Like,

whatever, get over it. I'll get engaged four times in one year. It's not anything to me. I'm like, did you see how MJ went in on him now? Yes.

It was so good. happy about that. Yeah, he deserves that. Yeah. No, I was glad that you brought him in. Of course, it's like whenever things like that happen and it's, it's always someone's birthday. Yeah.

Always. If you have your birthday on reality TV, it will get ruined. It's going to get ruined. It will. It'll get damaged. Or if you renew your vows are going to get divorced soon after. No, literally. Literally.

Lessons learned. But that's, it's just so wild that she was there at. your wedding. And then three days later, is like, okay, I'll take him. And it was a week before my birthday. It was a week before my birthday. And my birthday is kind of aligned with Thanksgiving. So I'm always feeding the homeless downtown.

And she was saying how much she really wanted to come to do that. And I remember contacting her to let her know, like the timing. And she would not respond, not respond, not respond. And I guess, you know, now I know why. So you know what I mean. So I get it. I did use him to sort of get my ex upset. Yeah.

But that is a very different level as to jumping into bed with someone's friend the week after. And getting engaged, getting matched, getting matched. It's just kind of tacky. No, I've done the same thing. Slep with someone to get back at someone. I'm pretty sure I wrote about that in my book. But I'm like, sometimes you've got to do it, you know? Easy come, easy go.

How did you feel when Reza Jackson said that you're just as much the villain as Dennis? I got it. I got it. My dick kind of got hard for him when he said. that because a lot of people don't call me out. A lot of people do not call me out for my shit. They're too scared to call me out. And it's true. I very much played a big part in that. I think what people seem to forget or not understand is that Dennis was not aware that I was doing this to him. Dennis thought I loved him and wanted to be with him. So he didn't know until

like a week later when I did a podcast with Tori Spelling where I said like this was what happened. And at that point, he was already engaged. So it's like, no, you know, you need know that. Right. So I'm not technically the villain-ish. Yeah. Ish. No.

I love RJ. Totally. Will we see anything blossom between you guys this season? Oh, well, you guys have to watch, but you will see a lot of stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I like it.

Yeah. So where are things with you and Dennis? You guys working together, working things out? We're working together. We're working together. It's very difficult. He sort of uses the business to sort of dangle it in front of me like a carrot kind of a concept or like I can take this anytime I want. Is there not someone else you could work with who you could not have a...

He has one of the largest distributions in the West Coast for toys in general. So, you know, it sucks. Yeah. You know, if I have to stop, I'll stop. I have so many other things. And I have so many other men I can marry and divorce and start business. For sure. Right? Yeah. Third time to time. Yeah. Okay. Still kind of sticking on relationships because you've obviously been very open about them over the years. What is the biggest lesson you have learned about love and relationships?

Hmm. I have no idea. I don't know. Still learning. I'm not really the relationship type. Yeah. Well, then that's something you've learned. Yeah. I know that now about myself. I'm not afraid of saying that. I think a lot of women, think like they have to get married and follow this path. And it was never really painted for me that path. It was a little bit different. I always wanted to be the boss of my life, you know, in control of the direction. I got a donor so I don't have to have any connections to anyone from my own kid. It's been hard. I just know now that I would like to be in a relationship.

I'm ready to start looking. And I want someone who's just really busy with their own life, so consumed with their own. They can go away. Exactly. Yeah. Go away. Long distance sounds like it would be good for you. I don't even remember saying that in my interview.

Go away and come back. Come back. And go again. But yeah, I know that about myself. I'm a Sagittarius. Like I need space. I need space to thrive. Oh, okay.

I joined Raya. Oh. But I'm on the waiting list. What? How? Well, you know, I don't know. Jeff Lewis kind of threw it in my face. He's like, why are you single?

And I was like, well, I don't know how to date. Where do I go to date? Yeah. Where does one. in L.A. go to date. You don't. You go to San Diego. Is that where we go? That's where I found mine.

Sheena, you didn't share this with me. I'm sharing it now. So San Diego's where it's at? Yeah. Well, where I'm going then. Okay. There's some good ones down there. It'll be the valley San Diego style.

Right? Right? I do know something they're working on in Coronado right now. Uh-huh. Okay. I'm going to check out San Diego because Raya didn't even accept me. They waitlisted me. That's fucked up.

When there's probably- You're supposed to get recommendations. Or some of referrals? I don't know. I don't know. I never did the apps when I was single. Never have. Yeah. This is my first time.

And it's Jeff Lewis's fault. I'm blaming Jeff Lewis. Yeah. Because I got scared. I went out and bought an iPad because I'm a Samsung user. I know. And Raya is only for Apple. So I bought an iPad just to sign up just to get the notification.

You are on a waiting list. Oh. So I'm just going to be single for a while, Sheena. And I mean, God bless the fact that I have sex toys. Yeah. You know? Sometimes that's all you need. Yeah.

Exactly. But it's like you know you want to be a businesswoman. You know you want to be a mom and you make those things happen. Amen. Has your son asked questions yet? He asked when he was two years old. I was actually on a FaceTime call with MJ and her son Shamps and his dad walked past and he was like saying like, Daddy, daddy, something like that. And my son Eli turns around and he goes, why don't I have a daddy? And I just remember MJ's face just dropped. And I hear you. He was young. So I was like, you have a mommy, you have a grandpa, you have an aunt. I named everyone. And then it happened again a month ago. So it's been years. And he says, I really wished I had a daddy. And in that moment, I wanted to run. I wanted to run. But I stopped. And I said, if you did have a daddy, what would you do together? And he was like, I don't know. And I said, is there anything that I can do with you that you would do with someone if you had a daddy? And, he just thought about it and then he changed the subject. Yeah. You know, and I didn't want to shy away from that conversation. For sure. I wanted to continue that thought with him and that feeling. So I think with each age, you treat it differently.

Yeah. And at some point when I think that he's mature and old enough, I'm going to hand him the file from the donor and say, this is all I know. You know, this is who he is. Did your donor say that when your son is 18, he can contact? Completely anonymous. Okay. Got you.

He did offer photos. Yeah. I did opt for. for only photos, which less than 1% of them come through with photos. And if they have photos, they're usually very childlike. His are adult photos. He actually wrote a beautiful letter to the child to understand him more than just a 50-page file of, you know, statistics. He was just great donor profile, no diseases, grandparents, parents, everything, everyone educated.

So one day, you know, when he's ready for it, I'll hand it over to him. I just hope that it's something that I can continue to provide a situation for him. Yeah. He's not longing for something. And maybe just the thought because he hears people have dads and what we talk. I'm like, some people have two dads. Exactly. Yeah.

One of his friends in school, the mom died, passed away from cancer. So I was like, you know, he didn't have a mom. And so I try to. Yeah. You know, but I don't want to diminish his feelings of wanting a dad. Yeah. But that's very mature and intelligent. of you, but yeah, I can imagine that's easy. But even like summer, she has two sets of twins

in her class that both have two dads. There you go. And she's like, I wish I had two dads. I'm like, well, you have a mom and a dad. She's just like, but she goes, but never really is like, but why don't they have a mommy? She was just like, oh, they have two daddies. And I was like, and I mean, Lance and Michael are one of the couples. And it's like she's so close with their twins. And she's just like, oh, that's cool. They have two dads. Like everyone's different. Yeah, everyone's different. I remember a long time ago I had a podcast not like this amazing podcast, but I had Andy Cohen on and what I asked him. Yeah, I said Andy like what was it like what do you say to Ben? Yeah. Because he's ahead of me, you know, we're doing that. And he said, you know, he's like,

I don't know what to tell you, but you'll know. Yeah. You'll just know. Yeah. And it's very true. It's that mother's instinct and feeling and yeah, you'll know when is the right time. Right. Yeah. For sure. How did you get Andy Cohen on your podcast? I don't know. Did you not? No, he says that he'll only, because if he does one, he has to do them all. So he's like, if you have like a big, like, if it's your 500th episode or if it's like something like that, he'll do it. So I'm like, what the fuck? Oh, my gosh.

I got Andy Cohen. That's huge. That's amazing. Yeah. One day we'll get him. We'll have to count how many episodes I'm at and put him on for one of those special ones. These days, do you feel that you're more guarded or do you feel more confident in like setting boundaries? and just where you're at in life.

I'm definitely more confident setting boundaries. I did a lot of soul searching and healing, despite what people see on the show, you know, I will always be hot-headed. I'll always be that person that pops off. That's what I am. Yeah. But I'm literally the most logical person in the room,

which annoys the hell out of most people. I don't lead with emotion. I usually just lead with logic. Okay, you are my husband. Yeah. He said that to me this morning. To lead with logic? Yes.

Yeah. Our cat right now is going through hell. You had kidney stones. You had multiple surgeries, all this medication. They panicking? Yeah. And then this morning, I'm reading the paper of his meds. And I go, you gave this to him yesterday?

And he goes, yeah. And I go, it says next dose Thursday. So I was like, oh, my God. Now you just gave it to him back to back days. I need to call the doctor. I call the doctor. They put me on hold. And I'm just like freaking out.

And they go, oh, it's fine. As long as it's just twice a week. So just hold off until Friday. And he goes, again, I lead with logic. it's not going to kill him. It says twice a week. I'm like, but it said next Thursday. He's like, you're being emotional.

Yeah. I know. I'm a little bit, you know, on the spectrum. So for me, emotion is non-existent. Mm-hmm. Yeah, and I am too emotional at some time. So I get it. What would you say is a non-negotiable for you now that maybe wasn't before?

Like in relationships or friendships. Anything? Yeah. I don't know. I think I let people in too easily. Yeah, me too. I just don't, I don't know. I think because I'm so good at handling myself that I'm okay with whatever comes,

and I think life is so short that why waste an opportunity that might turn into something else? But I do get burned a lot because of that as well. Same, you know, just being openly, friendly. And I'm okay with it. I don't really care if I get burned. I know that I experienced life. Yeah. And that's okay.

That's a good way to look at it. Yeah. I like that. Who do you keep in touch with from the OG Shaw's? Or just Shaw's in general. Like I know you said Lily. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Lily and I always kept in contact. I love her to death. She's so successful. She's such a great mom. So I get a lot of, you know, pointers from her. I get all of my referrals from her from nannies to doctors to pediatrician, everything, you name it. I just get it from her. Reza, of course.

And I'm Jay, that's it. Yeah. Yeah, no one else. Turven. No, he and I had a big, big, big, fallen out long time. ago and I think he was just going through his own stuff. Yeah. Do any of you keep in touch with Mike and how has?

Reza. Only Reza. Okay. I was wondering how he feels not being asked to be a part of this show. I don't know. I think Reza sent me a screenshot to our group chat with me, him and MJ. Mike had posted something like of himself in the clubhouse at Watch Whatch Evans Live. And he was like, like the OG or something can't be duplicated or something. something like that is the caption.

Oh, God. So I could imagine. I mean, that's got to be hard. Oh, it's got to be hard. Yeah. For sure. When he was an OG on every episode of every season, and then they're like, we're doing this again, but not with you.

Yeah. But like, that's called a consequence of your actions. A lot. Mm-hmm. Is there anyone who you'd like to see make an appearance on the new Valley Persian style? Like from Shaz? Yeah. Mm, I think Lily.

Yeah. I would love to. see Lily to come on because she's in such a different headspace. Is there only like one season? She did two seasons. Okay. It was not enough. She did. She was so different then. Yeah. She was so like figuring it out. She's from Texas and LA like trying to like create companies. And now she's like this multi-millionaire for multiple companies and just bossing it up. Yeah. So I would love to see that version of her on TV now. I would love to see that too. Yeah. She is the Lash Queen. She is. I mean they're everywhere. Lash and vitamins.

Yeah. The best. Yeah. All right. So one question I do have to ask you because I saw you talked about this recently. Obviously, I knew this years ago, but you and Mr. Jacks Taylor. Was your fault, Sheena? This is all your fault, bro.

Was it really? Is it really? Well, no, I hit you up. I remember I hit you up. And I was like, is this guy single? And you're like, he newly is actually. He just broke up with his girlfriend. And you told me a bar somewhere.

Where was the bar we went to? It was probably in West Hollywood somewhere. Yeah, it was in West Hollywood. And that was it. It was just the one time. It was just that one time. Because, you know, Jacks always has his own versions of stories and whatnot. You know, he got really upset with me, apparently, because I did another interview

recently, and he heard, and he got really upset. Did he text me? Yeah. He was like, he goes, I got to read it to you. he's like, this is, this is so fucked up. He goes, I was really broke, man. That's not nice. I'm like, oh my God.

I wasn't making fun of you. It just was what it was. Yeah. Like this apartment and it was Tom, Tom, Tom and Jacks living together. Jacks was in the living room, like on the floor. I think there's maybe like a curtain up. Yeah, that's, yeah. Yeah.

He got very upset. He was, he actually, he's, he's a little shit talker that guy. Like when he heard this beef that, That girl, what's her name? Kristen girl. Oh, yeah. He hit, Jacks hit me up and unloaded a lot of personal information about her and her husband or fiance or whatever he is. Very, very detailed stuff.

Interesting. Doesn't surprise me. I saw Zach Wickham from the Valley commented suggesting that there may have been more to the story between you and Jacks and that like you were like always hitting him up or something like that. No, I literally I met you Your man, Jacks at the bar We got wasted

I don't even know how I got to Jack's house I don't know how we ended up I just remember Hitting the floor And looking in the mattress Was like four feet I'm like what the fuck

Where am I and I see a pile of clothes On the other side And I'm looking and it's like Jacks I'm like What am I doing? Oh I got to go We didn't have Uber I had to catch a cab

I had to catch a cab from his house I was like, oh, my God. Are there any other people from the Bravo world who you've hooked up with? Any of the Southern Charm boys? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Shep. Yeah. Shep, you too? Well, we didn't.

I don't know what we did all the way. We didn't all the way, but. I don't know how, I mean, the whiskey makes you frisky. That's fat. Yeah, he, yeah, I think I'm like that forbidden fruit. to a lot of men. I think it's one of those things. It's like an accomplishment.

They want to like get that. With with with Shep, I would say it was probably the same thing. He was like in L.A. he wanted to like hang out and he had just done my podcast, left my house called you. I mean, he's very well endowed, you know, and he's extremely intelligent.

I'm a sapiens sexual person. So when I see smart people, I just, that's like, oh my God. Yeah. No, I remember I did watch what happens live with him. But at the time, I was in a relationship and I was just like, well, we have to be friends. Yeah.

Because like, you're this awesome guy. And then he's so awesome. That relationship ended. And he was on my podcast and like, so drinks tonight. Yeah. He's, he's very smart. He's very smart guy. If there was one guy in the Bravo world who you could date.

Mauricio. Easy. Mauricio. Is he still in the Bravo world? I mean, technically, yeah. Kind of. Like Kyle's ex-husband. Yeah.

He's hot. MJ's boss. M.J's boss. I can get MJ promoted. I heard that him and Kyle were like seen together recently. Right. I don't know if it was New Year's Eve or something. I heard they were very close and having a great time together recently.

Yeah, I want them to get back together. I want that love story. She seems very happy. I mean, I never got along with Kyle. So now you get along with her, but you'd fuck her ex-husband? I mean, their exes. She, she, she, I. I would never forget this was my first up front as well.

And our first season, here I am, like 20-something years old. I walk into this room and I see the housewives and everyone and all the house husbands are off to the side. It was Joe, Mauricio, it was the Altman's. It was all the guys. And I walk in and I'll never forget, they just all turned around and looked at me like fresh fish. And here I am, like a big fan like, hey guys. And I'll never forget what's her name? Oh my gosh.

From Paul Nassiv's ex-Aidio. Oh, Adrian Maloof. She and Kyle walked straight up to me and the men and kind of like do one of those things like, look at me like, hello. I'm like, hi. And they did no shaking of the hands, nothing. Oh. It's like, okay. Okay.

Okay. Do you think we'll ever see any crossovers with the OG Valley with you guys? Do any of you mix and mingle? I don't know. I really don't know. I don't know. None of us are really connected in that level. None of us hang out with each other on that level. I think it's, you know, Reza has a relationship, I guess, with Kristen. I don't really know. What's your beef with Kristen? I just, I don't really particularly have beef with her. I think she started it with me thinking she was going to be cool. and she was sticking up for her friend,

which I respected that when she first reached out. I think she was trying to write her wrongs from when she didn't say anything to me for the Lala stuff. Yes. And she thought she was going to come hard at me. And to me, that's a joke. But I also respected that she was sticking up for Britney. Do you feel like this show allows more room for growth

than earlier versions of reality TV for you? I don't know. I think it's too soon to tell. Yeah. What chapter of life are you in right now? I don't know. I'm sort of out of being stuck at the at-home mommy. I'm trying to come out and get that shell. You know, he's at that age where I can finally take a breath. I don't have to stare at him every second if he's going to fall, climb, choke, you know, those things that are very hard those first few years. I just want to date. I want to, you know, I'm in a cast that everyone's married. Yeah. Or getting divorced. But still, it's like kind of like they don't really include me in conversations because like, what would she know, you know? So it's kind of. It's kind of. hard. Yeah. We got to get you out. What to get me out? Get me accepted on Ryan.

Michelle. She's also Persian. She's on the valley. She's single. Who is? Michelle. Who is Michelle? Who's Michelle? He's on the valley. Oh. She was married to Jesse. They're now divorced. Oh, yes. Yes. She met my friend Tannen recently. Oh, okay. And she said she's so nice. Yeah. I like that Jesse guy. I met him with you at the jet suite airport, right? Yeah, his ex-wife.

Uh-huh. Yeah, we all flew together at BravoCon. I got some people behind the scenes. People came up to I guess they saw me talking to Jesse a few times, maybe at the airport and Monset in Vegas. And they're like, be careful for his girlfriend. She's fucking crazy. And I'm like, I just met him. Like, I don't even know. So I messaged him. I said, hey, like, it was so nice to meet you.

I'm being told to be careful for your girlfriend. She's like, do I need to worry about something? He's like, they're just saying that because she's, they're just fucking jealous of her. She's got her life together. He's like, I was like, wow, you love your woman. Yeah. You was really supporting her. but I was like, I don't know anything about her.

Right. I was given a warning. Yeah. I think based on what maybe is going to happen this season coming up. Oh. But she's a sweetheart. Is that why I needed a warning? Maybe.

Yeah. Because I know that she filmed this season. She did. So she was going to do something to me, kind of. Some threats. If you talk about me, I'm going to sue you sort of stuff. Oh, like that? Yeah.

But her and I have had some great conversations. And we have a mutual mommy friend group in Orange County. You like the south of LA. I love the beach. I do. I do. All right. Last question.

What is something you're proud of that viewers never get to see? My IQ. Yeah. I love that. I have extremely high IQ and I think people don't get to see that because they get to see all the other crazy shit of me. And they don't, would never expect me to have, you know, any brain cells, let alone what I do have. so I would say my IQ. Yeah.

Do you feel that marijuana affects the IQ? Let's call it cannabis. So marijuana was a government-given name to affiliate it with Hispanics. Yes. So we can look at it as a bad thing. But I really don't care what people think about. No, no. I'm not asking people.

Just like in general, like do you feel that because also, I mean, I've smoked for years as well. I'm on a break right now. But do you feel that it affects your memory or things like that? Not at all. I think there's a lot of misinformation out there about. about cannabis. I know it inside out. Like a Bible. You were in the business. So I know you're very versed in it. I can talk the scientific words, the medical words. But no, I don't, you know, like I said, I'm up at

for something every morning by 5.30. I have my first J. The way most people have their cup of coffee. And it gets me going. There you go. I've had my coffee. Finally. Oh, I love it. So here at Chananigans, we do a Jack's Hole every week and flowers of the week. I'm going to give the Jack's Hole to your ex-husband, Dennis. Thank you. Because he deserves it. Thank you. For multiple reasons that...

Thank you. You guys are all seeing on the show this week. Very well deserved. Yeah, absolutely. And my flowers of the week are going to the one and only Nini Leaks for coming back to reality TV, back into the Bravo conversation. No matter how you feel about reality TV, there's something really comforting about seeing familiar faces return, especially ones who really helped build this culture in the first place.

I think Nini is just... I mean, such an icon, such a huge part of Bravo history, and her presence just feels like grounding. You know, it's like home. And you see someone like that back on your TV. Well, she's not there anymore. I just think with so much chaos happening in the world right now in our country, you know, moments like this,

just feel weirdly healing and it's nostalgic. You know, it's familiar. It reminds us why we fell in love with these shows to begin with. They give us an escape, a laugh. And sometimes even a sense of normalcy when things feel uncertain. I know for me not being on a show right now, I'm still so enjoying watching them.

And I'm like, okay, I'm glad I'm on a bit of a pause, but it still feels like home. I still am watching all of my Bravo shows. Absolutely. I still hope no matter what that I'm at BravoCon every year because I'm Sheena fucking Shea. Yeah, you are Sheena fucking Shea. In the It's All Happening Room.

So flowers go to Nini, snaps for Nini, for the laughs, the legacy, and for reminding us that joy and entertainment still matter, especially right now. Thank you guys all for listening. Thank you, Gigi Golnessa, for joining me in the studio today. Make sure to tune into the Valley Persian style Thursdays at 9-8 Central on Bravo. Next day on Peacock.

And if you haven't gotten a copy of my book yet, go get it. It's called My Good Side. It's New York Times bestseller. We'll be back next week, getting into some more shenanigans about attachment styles, which I am so excited for. because this is another episode that could be life-changing for you once you figure that out. So see you guys next week. Bye.

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