Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - Leaning Into The Delulu with Ashley Darby

Episode Date: February 6, 2026

This week, Scheana and co-host Krystina Arielle are joined by Real Housewives of Potomac OG Ashley Darby for an unfiltered conversation about life on—and off��camera. Ahead of the Season 10 reunion, Ashley spills on cast dynamics, including who came armed with the best receipts, which cast member she believes might be paying bloggers, and why, despite insisting Stacey is a liar, she’d still trust her most with her phone passcode. Ashley also clears the air on some of the season’s biggest storylines, shares behind-the-scenes tea from the upcoming RHUGT, opens up about whether she’d ever dip her toes back into the Bravo dating pool, and reveals what really sparked her long-standing beef with Adriana from RHOM. Beyond the drama, Ashley gets deeply real about motherhood, sharing when she first realized something wasn’t right postpartum, the shame surrounding postpartum depression, and what ultimately helped pull her through. She also opens up about the side of herself audiences rarely get to see, how becoming a mom reshaped her boundaries, and why she’s fully leaning into the delulu in this next chapter. Tune in! Follow us: @scheana @scheananigans Co-Host: @krystinaarielleGuest: @ashleyboalchdarby Purchase your very own copy of the NYT Best-selling book MY GOOD SIDE at www.mygoodsidebook.com!Episode sponsors:Order now at drinkwillies.com and use code SCHEANA for 20% off of your first order + free shipping on orders over $95, and enjoy life in the high country.Get organized, refreshed, and back on track this new year for WAY less. Head to Wayfair.com right now to shop all things home. Wayfair. Every style. Every home. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The following podcast is a dear media production. From Vanderpump rules to motherhood and everywhere in between. Warm up the kettle. It's time to spill some tea. Let's get into some shenanigans with Shea Shea. Welcome back for another week of shenanigans. I've got the birthday girl herself and the co-host hot seat with me today. Christina, thank you for being here.

You had such a fun celebration. over the weekend. I mean, I danced my ass off. That was the goal. What did you do? I turned 40. Oh, okay. Yes. So I had a, I was like, I want to have a karaoke disco party. And everybody come on theme, not costumes, but like elevated fashion level. Like, what would you look like in the 70s? Yeah. You did the damn thing. Oh my gosh. It was a way. And I was like, and I curated the playlist perfectly. So it was like the Tina Ayers tour of music. And it was like a compilation of stuff from the 70s to booty mix 96. So like millennial. like 2004 prom era. Yes.

It was majestic. And we just was to keep you dancing and stay on the dance. And moving and grooving. That it did. Today we have a very special guest in the studio. You have watched her grow up on reality TV in real time. She is an OG real housewife of Potomac, a mom, entrepreneur, and someone who has never been afraid to evolve in front of the camera,

even when it's uncomfortable. We've seen her navigate marriage, motherhood, divorce. friendships, and a lot of public opinion. And now she's in a really interesting chapter of independence, clarity, and self-discovery. So please welcome the one and only, Ashley Darby. How we doing? I'm so excited. So happy to be here in L.A. Yes. Babes. The ice back home is insane. I'm talking like six inches of pure ice. Can I say that I'm actually jealous of that? I want my daughter to do a snow trip and we have one planned in three weeks. And I'm like, Will there be another snowstorm or is it going to be dry as fuck up there?

Well, here's the thing. You want it for like a couple days. Yeah. You don't want it for what we've had, which is almost a month now. Yeah. Yeah. So a good week of some snow, perfect, do the snow activities, make a snow angel snowman. Right.

Call it a day. But the slick roads after and you just go sliding. Yeah. Especially Virginia and Merritt. Like those roads are so slick in the winter. Yeah. That's why I have a big car. I just got this big boat of a car.

We call her Big Pearl. Nice. Yeah. Big Pearl gets us where we need to go. I love it. So season 10 of Real Housewives of Potomac just wrapped up. And first part of the reunion starting Sunday. I know.

Oh my gosh. You look amazing. I always love to see the Housewives reunion looks because you guys all coordinate in the color scheme and whatnot. And we never really had that. They have us, you know, send in the options, but they don't always cohesively go together. So I always love to see that. But I kind of appreciated that about what you had. because then you could have real individual style.

But I do think there are varying levels of coordination amongst the franchises. Ours in particular, we have a mood board. We have a stylist who is really honest. Send me your looks. I can't say that's the case for all the other housewife shows. Yeah. Oh, that blue season where you all did blue. That was chef's kiss, wasn't it?

Amazing. And it complimented everybody. It did. But the studio was 40 degrees. Yeah, that was the year. Yeah, they had a heating issue. Oh my gosh. So behind the cameras, everyone's wearing their coats.

You can literally see your breath. And it had to be the most revealing dress I've ever worn in... But this is not Salt Lake City. I know. What do we do? Wild. It was crazy. So you and Giselle, are you the only two OGs remaining?

Yeah. Because Karen obviously just, you know, peeked in a little bit. She couldn't film. But that's wild. I know. Congratulations. Thank you. It's been a journey.

Yeah. Yeah. No place. A decade of this. Amazing. But to have a 10-run season on reality TV, you know, especially on a format like Housewives, that's a really big accomplishment. So congratulations.

Thank you, darling. It's definitely not free. But I think that I'm really thankful that the fans can actually evolve with us. And part of the success of our show is that we all go through things so differently. Totally. And we handle it differently. And people relate. When I went through my postpartum depression, for example,

the amount of people who reached out to me and who connected with me. Yeah. You know, like, it was, the community was so beautiful. Yeah. I think that's beautiful. I do want to get into that in a bit. But looking back at your early seasons, what do you think you've learned most about yourself? Oh.

I've learned that I'm a bit of a hothead. And I didn't used to think that. I was like, Palm Cun Collected. Like, you know, I thought it was the peacekeeper. Mm-hmm. Yeah, no. Where? So I was the only one disillusioned. No, it's you just, it's funny to watch how you've grown from that first season because you were so, so young in that first season.

Were you like 26, 27? 27. 26, yeah. Wow. And then just like literally as she said, you grew up in front of us. We watched you go through all of this, especially with that journey. I think, I believe we were pregnant around the same time. And to have someone actually openly talking about it was just marvelous. So I love that you have that you have. those moments mixed in with a miss. Gotta have a little mists. It's important. And that reminds us why we do this. You know, it's like being able to share those experiences. You know that you are doing something very special for people who feel less alone when you go through those type of experiences. Yeah, that's something I admire about you too because you talk a lot about the things you go through.

You've always been vulnerable. Yeah. And I'm like, that's what we're here to do. Exactly. Yeah. So I commend that. Yeah. So before we get too deep, I thought it would be.

fun to start off with a little game to break the ice a bit and play a round of Real Housewives of Potomac superlatives. Okay. This game always gets me in trouble for the record. All right. All right. That's why we do it. Okay. So we're going to throw out a superlative and just whoever it fits, past, present, friend of yourself, anyone you want to pick who's been on the franchise in the last 10 seasons. Okay. Who would you say is the most authentic? I'm going to give myself the crown here. I have been so authentic about everything. Yes. Yes.

Agreed. Most enviable wardrobe. I would say Wendy. It's just a little complicated right now. But Wendy has been serving to fashions the last couple years. She has and she is very protective. She has fashion. Yeah.

Who is the best hostess? I'm guessing not Angel. Yeah. Sorry, Angel. You're not in the running for this. I would say Giselle is very good at hosting trips. But in terms of in the home,

like just a girl's dinner, Wendy actually threw a really nice party for us once. She had like bowls of candy all around. She had slippers for us. I was pregnant too with Dylan and I was like big as a house. Yeah.

And she had all that stuff there. Okay. All right. Oh, you were so cute pregnant with a little workout outfits. It was like, oh. That's time of my life. I love it.

Yeah. Oh, actually. Actually, I'm going to follow up with what Sheena asked you. And as she said, it's a little insled baseball. How much of that trip was Angel and how much was the man behind the curtain as far as planning that trip and putting it together? Well, let's be clear that there's always the man behind the curtain. Always. And that doesn't really take away the responsibility of you to be very involved with the process.

It's still your trip. Exactly. You still have to be responsible for it. You still have to own it. And, you know, when shit comes out of your mouth, there's something to be. planned, that's your thing. Yeah, but also communicate because I do give production a lot of credit. They do communicate with us. If there's something going awry, if you're the host, hostess of the trip, they will tell you. And so in order to sort of clear yourself and get the

heat off of you, you should tell everybody, just give them a little heads up. Right. So then that way, when this wasn't really me, just kind of go with it. Yeah. Or just like, hey, y'all, we've got a snafu here. Yeah. Yeah. So the expectation. Yeah. Right. Exactly. Communication is the name of the game. Totally. It is. And we don't blame production. Everybody knows. It just is happening.

Mm-hmm. Except in certain cases. I'm like, that wasn't my original thought. But it came out of my mouth. So there we got to go with it, right? I said that she didn't do. Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

Yeah. Who would you say is the most talkative to bloggers? Well, we've had people actually pay bloggers. Yeah. We've had people who had bloggers on the payroll. Tell us everything. Well, there was a rumor that it was Stacey when she first came on. that she was colluding with bloggers.

There may have been some proof of that. So I would say Stacey. Okay. Yeah. Okay. In past seasons. Who are you thinking? Go ahead.

Say it. Three letters. Well, some theories. We actually theorized that Karen for a minute was doing it. And Karen would get so hot. I would never, I would never. But the signs were pointing to Karen at some points. Yeah.

The Grand Dame. You know, she likes to control the narrative. Yes. So that's why we thought that never usually works out for you. It doesn't. Self-producing doesn't work out. I think it's because it's so transparent too. Yeah. Learn that the hard way. We have to, right? You got to learn as you go. But I think the reason for that too is because there's so much going on. We're on ensemble cast. Right. Right. So when you're not ensemble cast, you're not the main character. You're the main character of your life. Right. But you are one of the characters on shows. Exactly. Yeah. Who's most likely to rewrite history? Can you give me an example?

So say you were, I don't know, at a dinner and someone threw something. But someone said that someone didn't throw something. So when they were telling their story of what happened, it just happens to be vastly different than what you saw with your own eyes. Okay, okay, I like this. I'm going to give this to Giselle, actually, because Giselle likes to put hot sauce on things. And so do I. I mean, I can keep it a buck. Make it spicy.

Yeah. So we both do that. Yeah. Okay. Who is the most observant of call times and like really punctual? Jaze. Okay. She's five minutes early to everything.

I love that. She will beat production. Legit. She'll be sitting in her car waiting for them to come. Like I'm getting that parking spot. Oh. Biggest producer in the confessional, self-producer. I don't know about that.

I would say a confessional gangster this season has been angel. Okay. Because the energy angel would give in the scenes, versus the energy she had in the confessionals night and day. It does feel like a bit of a safe space when you're in there alone, you know, with the producer, you don't have the other women who can bark at you. So I could see that where I even notice this with my friends on the Valley. When they're quiet and seen, I go, and that's what your confessionals are for.

They're like, exactly. You get that inner monologue and then you say all the shit. Then you have to deal with it at the reunion, but you don't have to deal with it in real time. Yes, exactly. But I've never, I've never done that. I feel like I just want to have the same energy to your face that I'm going to have in my confessional. Uh-huh. And that's gotten me into a lot of trouble.

Because you do it so casually, it was like even with the, like, asking about like, well, most of us, everybody here is dated a professional athlete and just like that transition into, however, if we want to talk about it and you just like sprinkle, it's, it's, you know, just fun. Just girls chatting. I love it. Who is the most improved from their first season to now? Improved. I would say, I think I have improved quite a bit. Someone is even telling me that they hated the sound of my voice. Yes.

No. Yeah. Yeah, someone close to me. They were like, man, we hated just hearing your voice on television. You know, your ovaries hadn't developed them or something. I don't know. I don't mean, it's their balls dropped, but I don't know what the equivalent is for women. Right.

But it hadn't happened yet. Honestly, that was the same for me. But it's okay. You just evolve. I mean, we're all evolving, especially motherhood. As you know, changes absolutely. Yeah. Totally.

And I did listen to coffee and love on the way here. Taste best when hot. We come to the end of we won't stop. Oh, I love it. So, ooh, who is the queen of deflection? Oh, Karen. Hands down. I think it's a generational skill.

you know, she's an older lady. She's of the time when it was like a bless your heart sort of thing. Right. So she doesn't come out with it. She's gotten better, though, over time. I think she's from the country. So she has that kind of like, it's a little bit of age, a little bit of that era. And especially the era being raised to like, be respectful, be this, but you've got to

a politic to get through a certain amount of life. And she is politically inclined. She is. She actually met her husband at a political event at the Congressional Black Caucus. Just to give you some information. Like Karen is about the business. Listen, I believe it and I got the candle to prove it. Which one is? Is that the two wick or the one wick?

I'm a three wick candle. Oh, Wendy had to do it one week. No, it was that what was it? There was the three wick and it's like, well, I'm actually coming out with a four wick candle. And then me, it went online and released like a 30 wick candle. It was like 25 to 30 wicks. It was gigantic and it was like $400.

And I was like, but I did get an on yeat candle. which is Wendy's candle. They sent us this threads package and they had sent us this like Housewives care package and I was like, that smells real. It does smell good. Yeah.

Nice. I love that about Mia though. Mia was, oh, we got to bring her into the fold here because that is the queen of petty. We grew up in the same hometown. Petty with the Purpose? Yes, she's petty with the purpose, for sure.

Who would you say is the most protected by the group? Nobody. I don't think anybody. I think that Kay trying to protect Angel, but then she realized. realize you got a letter to see on her own two feet. Yeah. Yeah.

But then also first season, the person that brings you in is usually the person that you turn on in that very first season. Inadvertently, you like have beef and. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I mean, being in the group like that where everyone is trying to poke holes in your friendship, if it's not super strong, they'll succeed. Yeah. Absolutely.

Ooh, most likely to read the group chat but not reply. Oh. Yeah, that's me. But. I have the worst. undiagnosed ADHD imaginable. So I'll read the text and I'm like, I start to respond. And then, you know, like a bird starts chirping. I'm like, I forget all about it. Who's the best wing woman? Stacey.

Okay. Hands down. We went to Nevis. Stacey and I, we gallivanted around the four seasons. And there was like a tech convention. There's a tech convention going on. And she was like, we're going to get you a tech man. And sure enough, we went on the golf cart and Stacey was introducing me, this is my friend Ashley. She's single. That was like the first thing she told these men. Yeah. She's good. I would say most supportive when the cameras are down. It depends. I might give this to myself. My to myself because I'm able to separate what we have going on in our group. And this happens even in my normal friendships that aren't on camera. I can separate like the conflict from the person.

Mm-hmm. And some of our castmates or my castmates, they take it so personally. Like, I mean, they go to bed with it. They wake up with it. They eat, breathe, and sleep it. Like, it's just constant. Yeah. Not that way.

So if something happens, if you have an unfortunate death in the family or something happens that's really sad, I'll reach out to you, you know? Yeah. It doesn't always get well received because if they're like, if they're not messing with me, they'll be like, why are you reaching out to me? but it's really just because I'm a human and I'm trying to communicate with you as a human. Yeah.

Yeah. Who is the most trusted as an emergency contact? You have to call someone in a crisis. Ooh, this is a tough. I'm going to call K. Okay. Because K is so resourceful. It doesn't matter what it is, where you are.

Kay will make it work. Nice. If anything goes wrong, she just swipes the face card. Oh, which is never declined. Have you seen the meme of her where she turns around, she's just like, and she flicks her head to the left, and she cuts her eyes down,

and it is like old Hollywood, Dorothy Danridge. I need to start using that one. It is, oh, my gosh, it's so good. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And speaking of so good, Ashley, this is one of the most important questions on this card. Okay.

Who brings the best snacks? But not crafty. I mean, who personally, if you were, like, sitting on a trip and you started to feel your blood sugar drop, and you were like, I need something, but I need something good. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Jazzy and I were on the train together, and I was like ravenous.

The blood sugar was dropping. The girl was getting a little snappy. Jazzy was like, oh, hold up. And she just opened up her bed. I mean, it was granola bars, gummy bears. Like, that's like my car. I have everything. My daughter, I pick her up from school. And she's like, can I have a snack? And I'm like, what do you have your mind on? You know, like, what are you thinking? Maybe like a sour patch kid or an almond bar. You have a nice little stash in the back there. You have to. Always have the snacks. Who is most likely to have the best reunion receipts?

Monique Samuels. She delivered this season too. She did. Does she have hardware? Did she have anything printed out? Did she have any of the... She had some proof. I'm not going to spoil it for you because you're going to...

Well, I hope they can use it. It's a little complicated, so I hope they can use it. Otherwise, I'll get you the raw footage so you can see it. Perfect. I was going to say respect. Hopefully, they let her slide with Pastor Holy Horse. So who is the most likely to check in after a hard day? Oh, Jaze.

She calls me on the regular. Sherees Jordan recently was on the Shirley Shepard show. And Jazeel was filming Ultimate Girl's Trip. And so, I mean, I don't care. I don't listen to the fodder of whatever's going on. But Jaze'll call me. She's like, you okay? And I was like, girl, you are filming this show.

Go do what you need to do. Do not let this get you down. You know, she's like, I'm just checking on you, making sure you're good. Love her. Yeah. So that's real. And as the two, oh, geez, you guys have this long running friendship. So the trust that has to be there at this point.

Because you guys don't go against each other on camera. And your face when somebody does go is like, it's like, you're like, ooh. Well, I will say, too, like the skeletons in the closet, they're multiplying. Well, she's got my beef. Yeah, she knows everything about me now. Who keeps secrets off camera? Jaze. Mm-hmm.

Oh, boy. Yeah. If I ever, if we ever fall out, peace be with me. Because she will go for me. Who would you trust with your phone pass code? Well, obviously, Giselle, because she's my friend. But I might also give it to Stacey. Okay.

Stacey is like, she's capable of doing like a little code switch. Like she knows when to go at it. She knows what's off limits. So, and I like that about her. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Who would you say is the MVP of?

of the season. Season 10 MVP. Oh, it was a group effort. I have to say, everybody brought it. There was something. With Angel being new, I think that she did a good job in trying. Like, she put forth the effort. It's not hosting. It's not hosting. Yeah. It's not the hosting. But I think, too, like the situation was so overwhelming for her, babe. Like, she didn't know how to stand 10 toes down. Yeah. But she tried. It's a lot. It is a lot. Yeah, especially when you come into a group of women who have already been on a show, some 10 years.

You know, I can imagine how intimidating that is. Totally. I wouldn't know, but I can imagine. I know. If Real Housewives of Potomac was a high school movie, what role would you play? I am the fun, bubbly, like, miscongeniality kind of person. I love it. Were you like a cheerleader or anything in high school?

I did musicals. Oh, I love that. I was a hardcore theater kid. All the musicals. We did a little shop of horrors. We did, I mean, like, yeah. You did pageants as well, right? I did, but I started pageants when I was 18.

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Let's get it. You know. If Jazeel hadn't intervened, might there have been a flirtation with Mauritio in Aspen for you or any of your castmates? If Jazeel hadn't intervened? I'm not really interested in Mauricio, for the record. I think he's a handsome man, but he's never been on my radar. but he has been on Giselle's radar and she said it publicly in the past before

so I mean I always thought that she was going to carry the bag with that one. They're both single or both in Aspen so when she even said to me like you know you're being a hot mess or whatever I was really surprised because I really thought that she was but then

she told me later that because of some conversation she had with Kyle she's being more respectful yada yada yada but then she goes on the after show and says she wants to go down with them horizontally so it was deflection in a way. Yeah, yeah. But no, I don't think, I think

Riesio would be safe. Yeah. Do you think any of it was, like, do you feel like it was a little more played up? Obviously, because we have, like, a husband crossing the franchise. Is it going to homie hop with the housewives? Yeah.

Is that a term homie hop? Yeah. I'm putting that in my thing. I like that. Yeah. All right. Put it in the notes out. Yes.

Is there. Mm-hmm. I think it was a little more sensational, you know? And he's a handsome man, right? Like, he's one of the most revered handsome husband's And again, Giselle had said something about him publicly in the past on her podcast. So there had been some rumblings about her liking him. So that's why I think it became more of a thing.

And then me being single and, you know, just became a whole thing. Well, while we're at it, what's the real story with hooking up with Shere's son Jackson? Okay. So Jackson and I did share an intimate moment. And he did initiate it. Mm-hmm. And part of the reason that I didn't really think Cherise would mind is because Sherees had said so many times, you should date my son. Like, right after I got separated, she was like, great, come on, come be my daughter-in-law. And she said it jokingly, and I always took

it as a joke. And then that night, you know, I was like, well, Sheree did give her blessing. So, hey, Mom. But do you think she was mainly upset because it was a storyline? Well, I told her in the moment on the show. Yeah. And I was expecting her to have a reaction. in the moment in the scene. I was prepared for whatever, if she was going to throw water in my face, flip the table. I mean, I was ready.

I was prepared for that. And so then, but she laughed it off. And it was just a joke to her. Ha, ha, ha, ha. And I said everything to her that I've said subsequently. I even said, oh, like,

what does something more happen between me and Jackson than a kiss? And she laughed. So I just thought that was how she looked at the situation. But then to go and start trashing me and defaming me. Like, man, where is this energy coming from when it's not what you gave me in the moment? Yeah. And to be fair, we also celebrated her birthday, maybe like two months after we wrapped. So even if she had time to process it and let it marinate, I would hope that at least by then, if you were still in your feelings, you would have said something to me.

Yeah. But do you think in a way, because of the way that she responded to you, whether she had time to sit in it and process it, do you think that respectfully? maybe it was an end to come back to a more full-time position on the show, or do you think that's just not something that she's interested in? Or, like, which one do you think? Personally, I feel like to go and to carry it on that long, one, you have press in those things. But what do you think the genuine motive behind that is?

Yes, I do think that she's realizing it's getting some traction. I think that the criticism that she got from people being like, oh, how could you just laugh? and she thought people were attacking her because of what I said. How could you not get more upset with Ashley? Why did you not pop off? And so then she was like, oh, should I have done that? And so now retrospect, she's like, oh, yeah, now I'm mad.

Uh-huh. You know, like the people got into her ear and now she's mad. Yeah. And honestly, I would love for her to come back. I think she should. She is the person who put the group together when it first started. So like, why would it would make sense for her to come. Right.

So if that's what she's aiming for, I support her. And she's welcome for getting her all those press outlets. And I'm the only topic of conversation in every interview she does. So she's welcome. After these experiences this season, would you think twice before dipping your toe in the Bravo Pond again? In terms of dating? Yeah. Do you mean like the Mauricio of it all?

Because I did date Luke, which is like kind of fun. Yeah. Yeah. That was cute. I know. I like that era. And we tried for Captain Jason BravoCon a couple years ago. Oh, my gosh, Ben.

I was playing a matchmaker. You literally said you're like, you know, girl, this is more where you should be right here. And, you know, I wanted to make that happen. I didn't quite like how things went down with him and Heather, though. Because I love Captain Jason, but I was like, what actually transpired between Jason and Heather? Well, that was the thing. Nothing happened between them. I think they had some gummies and had some drinks and just like literally like went out and had fun.

So when she said, oh, we fucked around, she was not meaning sexually. I think just the way it came out when she was so drunk and she said it, it was not what happened. She's like, no, I mean, like, fucked around, like had some gummies, like da-da-da. And just like, fucked around. I'm like, that's not what fucked around means. I know. Okay.

Okay. Yeah. So, you know, she did say to me the other day, she's like, I'm recently hot. I'm new to being hot. It was actually really cute. So I love her. Maybe too, like when she says that, like she just has had a. a different definition.

Yes. Because she hasn't always been very confident with herself. Absolutely. Yeah. It was like a semantics thing, huh?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because him and I are still really close friends. And so I asked about that and he was like, no, that's not what happened.

This is what happened. And then she kind of cleared it up because then I felt bad for her. I think she kind of felt stupid when he goes on Watch What Happens Live and is like, that didn't happen. But it's because it didn't happen.

Yeah. And she kind of misspoke, I guess. Yeah. So that was why I was upset about it. Yeah. Because of that Watch What Happened Live thing. Right. I would be too.

Yeah. But then I got to the bottom of it. So I'm like, okay, I know both of you. And I didn't know what happened. If there's one thing you're going to do, girls, get to the bottom. We ended BravoCon, the three of us, in an elevator. I just post a little Snapchat. I'm like, should we keep the rumors going?

I love it. So this week, we got Andy's sit down with your castmate, Karen, as she returned home from her incarceration for driving while intoxicated. What did you think of that conversation? And was this your first time seeing it? I'm trying to think of when I got it before the reunion. Yeah, I got it before the reunion. I think I got it like a little bit before.

Yeah. So I had gotten it maybe two weeks before the reason. Gotcha. Okay. I loved the interview. I thought that it was so raw, so vulnerable. Yeah. I've been waiting for that from Karen.

And I think that I, because I'm so naturally open book, I just expected her to be the same way. That's just not how she is. Yeah. And it's unfortunate that something like this had to happen. in order for us to see this more vulnerable side of her. But it was real. And I appreciate that a lot. And I mean, she looked really good.

You know, like her skin, everything. It just, she looked healthy. And her blush. Yeah. Because she was not wearing beige. She was wearing blush. That he was like, but you're in. And I was thinking the same thing.

I'm like, thank you, Andy, for saying it. Girl, that's beige. I know. Is it the lighting? Blush, beige. I mean, if you're going to say, I would never wear beige. you should be in like a darker color or something totally different. Yeah, yeah.

That was so funny. That's a very Karen moment. Yes. That was so good. And Karen is so much from that generation of protect your image. Like you don't take business in the street. You keep all your stuff close to the best. Your business is your business.

So that vulnerability for her really is powerful to see. And so I guess watching that versus watching the first episode where you kind of, you could not resist a little bit the Thomas Jefferson's Conquivine. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, really, I was alluding to the initials to really get at Stacey. So it was a little double entendre there. Oh, interesting.

Yeah. Because, you know, T.J. Yeah. I had a little moment there. But I think that because we had come off the heels of what we saw at the reunion, which didn't really feel genuine when Karen and Ray had that sit down, I just felt kind of duped or like she was trying to dupe me. Yeah.

And I didn't appreciate that. So I was still kind of in my feelings a little bit about it. But then once actually she did go to jail, and I realized like, Oh my God, Karen is waking up like with in a jail sale. Like the reality of that really made me soften a lot about the situation. And then obviously when she came home and she's just this different person. I feel like, I mean, this has been Karen's journey, but I've been along for the ride too. You know, like from the beginning to now, like we've all gone through this with her.

Yeah. And you guys have been riding together for so long. Like you, Karen, Giselle, that's over 10 years of just being in each other's direct bubble. Yeah. So at the. think it's nice to see that you come to this place at the end, even with Stacey, the resolve that you've come to with that and you saying she's a person you would trust with your passcode and your phone. I would. Just, I love the growth that you have within the seasons. I mean,

I still think she's a liar, but I would definitely let her go through my phone. So I know that you, you're feeling a little vindicated, but also looking at it and through new eyes and with a new respect for Karen, are you ready for Karen to come back? Amen, yes. I need Karen on a one-way ticket to Royal House as a Potomac, please, because there are moments where I'm like, oh, a little Karenism would be so fun here. You know, like, when we were in Colorado, Karen's commentary would have been gold, you know? Yeah. And I do think, too, that Karen may have been a good usher for Angel because she does have this motherly energy. And unfortunately, Angel did lose her mom a few years ago. So,

Well, I think like when she was in college maybe. So I think maybe that dynamic could have been helpful to Angel. Like that missing piece of the puzzle could have been good for her. But it just wasn't the way it was supposed to be. Well, hopefully we get that next season. Yeah. Bring back the Grand Dame. Oh, yeah.

And I miss sparring with her. Like, you know, there's just nothing like her little shady reads. I love it. Well, speaking of sparring on Watchwood happens live this week, you briefly mentioned some drama with another housewife at BravoCon, Audriana from Real Housewives of Miami. What actually happened there? And have you two had any discussion since?

And was Captain Jason involved? Stop. All signs point to Jason. No, so we just had this little game that we played like a shady game of who was the worst dressed on stage. And I didn't like Audela's dress. She was wearing what I looked like aluminum foil. I didn't like it. Like it was just giving aluminum foil realness and I was not here for it.

So I said it and I said it with my chest. Yep. She didn't like that. And she got up and she spun around and did this whole thing. And my issue with her actually goes back quite a ways because she, she doesn't remember this, but I have the memory of an elephant. And she made this really shady comment on Twitter when we first debuted, Ron House was a Potomac. And she made a comment something like, oh, you guys took us off the air for this. That was essentially what she said. And she, again, doesn't remember it. But I know what I read. And it's, remember what Myangelo said? It's not what someone says. How it made you feel. Right. I remember what she said and how it made me feel.

So I, and I'm carrying that. And now she's like, I would never say that, but you did. You did? Yeah. And we were so new and we had just gotten into the platform. And I thought that was just really crass. So I've always, I'm carrying the grudge. Yeah.

I've been 10 years and I'm still carrying the grudge. Okay. Yeah. You also. I love interhals my feuds. I know, right? You also gave us a little tease on what's to come on the upcoming, Real Housewives Ultimate Girls trip, a conversation with Kyle and Maricio drama.

I know you can't really say anything, but did any of your relationships with your fellow housewives change following filming? I addressed. I think there were a lot of things I had to address because quite a few of my fellow housewives have had strong opinions about me in relation to what's been said about me and Jackson or whatever. So I needed to address that. And of course, yes, Kyle and I, we had to talk. It was just like, it was, it was kind of like, because we started in different parts of the room when I, when we first started filming.

And then we just slowly got closer and closer. And then it was like, hey, let's get to the bottom of this. Yeah. It was necessary. Okay. Have you been watching the traders? No, I haven't. What?

It's so good. Candice is a traitor. I've heard that. I'm very proud of her. Oh, you would eat it down. Let go. I know. I know.

I always said no. because it's Scotland and it's such a long amount of time. I mean, Love Hotel, to be gone to love hotel for three weeks, was brutal for me. Like I was, because I miss my kid. Of course. And, you know, I appreciate when we did Love Hotel, they were like, guys, I tried to actually have my kids come and be with me. And they were like, that would take you out of the bubble. So just, and they were right, ultimately, because I would have been all.

And in mom mode and not in that mode. Yeah. So, I mean, I gave them that and was fair, but it would have to be very compelling. I do want to do special horses, though. That's the one that I really want to do. Wow. Yeah. I could see that.

Ten days in Malaysia. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. I want to do it, but it films the same time as Atomic. It's only 10 days. I mean, Tom Sandoval did it when we were filming season 11. He just missed the first week of filming. Really?

Yeah. So it could happen. Okay. From our mouths to God's ears. Mm-hmm. Yes. Oh, speaking of Candice, how much has Candice changed? like I don't know what your relationship is now as far as closeness with the or not being on the show even though I miss you guys going head to head.

It would be really awesome if they watch you guys. You just, there's certain people that you just are great with. But have you had a connection with her like since she became a mother? Not as much, no. I did see pictures of her baby while we were filming Girl's Trip, which was so nice because she's very protective of him. But he's a little dumpling. Yeah.

So it was nice that we can actually like talk. Mother. You know, we had some other things that we had to address first. And then we got to the nice stuff. But, yeah, it was just like old times with her. Nice. Yeah. Are there any Bravo friendships that you have that would genuinely surprise people?

My closest housewife friend outside of my franchise is Teresa, Teresa Judeyce. So that's well known. I have just this love for Mary Cosby that I can't quite explain. It's just like, I don't know why. I just always want to hug her. Oh, I love her. She's got magnetic energy.

I met her at Bravo Khan. I literally were in the. big, like, lunch area. And I had my slippers on. And I took a photo with Andy with my slippers on. So I was like, I don't care. But then Mary walks in and I was like, oh my God. And I put the heels on. And I go over and Mark, my manager, he's like, wait, so you're going to put your heels on for her not for Andy? I was like, I don't get, I have a hundred pictures with Andy. I'm not going to meet Mary in my hotel slippers. The first lady. Oh, she was amazing. And you know what? It's funny. I completely understand that. Yeah. I'm like, duh. That makes perfect sense. Yeah. Exactly.

Yes. Who would you say Ashley Darby is outside of housewife Ashley? What does a normal day look like for you now? I'm very focused on my children and my children can't be on the show quite as much because of some stipulations with their father but they are literally in my world and you know I know I'm a little messy but I'm also pretty caring

so as we talked about that I am very likely to reach out to the girls during the off season or you know when a scene has happened that's been really tough I'm very happy to like give that support but you know I also know what I'm doing and I know when I showed up to do and I will

If there's something, if there's something that's not right, I'm going to talk about it, but it doesn't make me devalue you as a person. Yeah. So that's, I value people. How do you protect your peace? A lot of alone time. Okay. Yeah. I recharge like, for like a couple days.

Yeah. No calls. I'll text. But yeah, I feel like your battery is much longer than mine in relation to how you, you can do it, girl. You're like the energizer bunny. You really are. I don't know how. going and going.

I noticed. Like this is impressive. Yeah. Seriously. Oh, also, it was very cute when you were FaceTiming with your boys

on the trip and just how excited they got about everything as you were showing to them. It was just, it's really cute to see those moments. It's so humanizing to see these versions

and softer, which is obviously one of the reasons why, like, if you can't show this, then they usually do friend of. But you are so able to show so much

sincerity in those moments with your kids. And I love to see that. It's even with Giselle, just that sincerity because so often they show your mistakes, they show you fighting with someone. And reality TV can amplify those mistakes because they live in perpetuity in a library on peacock. So how do you practice self-forgiveness when moments like that live forever online? I can't dwell in them because if you rewatch it, if you get bogged down in the weeds, it will overtake you. And a lot of us, I know.

and our Bravoverse are now like on antidepressants, things that we didn't do prior to getting on the show. Yep. But a lot of my fellow Bravo Labs are because the living in this pressure cooker of reality TV is really challenging. But they are, you have to learn how to take a step back and zoom out a little bit and not get so immersed.

I don't read every comment. I don't watch every interview. You know, like I said what I said. I did what I did. if it's something that I need to address and rectify, I will, but I'm not going to keep reliving it time and time again. Mm-hmm. I do want to get into your postpartum depression, but we're going to take a quick little break, and then we'll be right back. Okay, everyone, the new year is here.

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That's W-A-Y-F-A-I-R.com. Wayfair, every style, every home. Hi, I'm Elizabeth Endress, a wellness founder for nearly a decade. My passion for feeling really good and commitment to the deep inner work have led me here, where I'll be sharing all the modalities that have helped me and sitting down weekly for unfiltered conversations with healers, practitioners, founders, and dear friends. I truly didn't believe emotions caused chronic symptoms until I started healing,

and realizing that my type A, highly sensitive personality, was very much linked to my skin and gut issues, pelvic pain, and more. If you were the sensitive one in the family growing up, the wellness process podcast is for you. You can listen to the wellness process podcast wherever you get your podcasts. I am so happy you're here. So you've been very open about experiencing postpartum depression after having your first son, was it? Or was it both? First son.

Okay. Which I know is something so many women go through, but don't always talk about it. It can feel very isolating. You feel like there's something wrong. You don't know what it is you're feeling. When was it that you realized something wasn't right? Oh, I was taking a shower and I just got so sad and I busted out crying and I was like, I don't really want to do this anymore.

And what was really overpowering me was thinking about all the bad things in the world. I just started honing in on it like, oh, there are children who are dying. There are children who are being abused and molested and all of that just flooded me. And I became so overwhelmed. I was like, I don't want to live. And I called my mom. And one thing my mother is good at is she will pull you off of any ledge. And she really reminded me of the good things in my life and just really reinforced the positive things that helped me shift my focus.

I was very thankful. She's worked with alcohol and drug addictics. Yeah. So she has a lot of experience with helping people to reshift their focus. And it was very helpful. And then I was also isolating a lot, which I know we do after we have our kids. I didn't want to go outside. I didn't want guests. No visitors. Like it was just me and this little baby that I just, oof, you know. And it took the show. It took a producer being like, hey, it's time to get into production. And I was like, I'm going to sit this one out. Yeah. And they were like, why? Why? What are you thinking? What are you saying? Who are you? This is not the person we've known for, at that point, like four or five seasons. And that reminder of who I used to be was what I needed. Yeah. And it really pulled me out of that funk. Good. I'm glad you're here. I know. Me too. Thank you. Thank you. With because that journey is, I think of a lot of things that we talk about the sadness of it, but the anxiety of that postpartum and those moments. did you oh

you know you're taken back to that place oh yeah about it yeah I'd been there it's a I think it's and it's hard and I'm glad that you made it through that and did you feel that pressure with doing the show to kind of push through

or are you did you allow yourself a little bit of grace you said you did when you talk to your mom and gave that step back sorry it's such a hard thing like it is it's hard to be vulnerable in that space. And you, at that time, to have somebody that showed what you were going through

and how you were coping, I want to give you your flowers right now because it was such a dark place. I couldn't leave my house. I couldn't take my baby for a walk because I had every possible scenario and Sheena has, we've talked about this, just having every thought that could possibly go wrong

living your head. And I know that weight, and I'm sorry that you had to experience that, especially with the added everything else of it all. And you just, I just want you to know how powerful that was and that you do deserve your flowers for that. That's sweet. Yeah. A lot of us experience that. And a lot of people don't talk about it. Or, you know, especially with being on a show, like I know for me, he's in nine. I talked about it all. And you didn't get to see it. And I was just like, this could have helped so many people what I was going through. And so I'm glad that on other shows, and then they eventually talked about my postpartum OCD and stuff, but I'm glad that that was able to be shown and could help people like my bestie over here

who is going through the same thing. Yeah. Because we do suffer in silence with that a lot. I think there's like a shame. You're like, oh, my mom is fine. Why am I feeling like this? My grandmother did it. my like you just you put the pressure on yourself too of comparing to all these other people who in what their experience is yeah but in actuality you don't even really know what they were going through because we don't talk about it enough yeah I have that line in one of my songs on my EP that's going to come out this spring the suffering and silence because that was something I experienced so much of and it's like no one knew because I didn't open up for a long time So I'm glad you did.

Yeah. Yes. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. What do you wish people understood about postpartum and mental health? That it is, it doesn't look the same. It's not a uniform thing. Mm-hmm.

So, you know, my experience in the way that I communicated is not necessarily what everyone else feels, but it doesn't minimize what they're going through. And there may be varying degrees of how someone is dealing with postpartum. And you just, you can't discount them. Everyone needs to feel seen and just like, give in their space to heal without feeling like they're doing something wrong or you're not depressed enough. Like, what? Yeah.

It's so crazy how there's always like a one-up sort of thing. And it affects a lot of people. Do you ever struggle balancing mom, Ashley, and fun, flirty going out Ashley, especially when the world's watching? Yes, this has become so hard for me within the last couple of years, mainly because my kids are becoming so much more aware. Like, they know I'm on a show. They know I'm on Real Housewives. They've never seen an episode, but they know I'm on TV.

Yeah. And they know I'm on Real Housewives. And they know that people come up to us and, like, they know us. So they're, like, aware. So when I'm, like, out doing Ash, T-O-P and I've got pasties on my boobs and I'm like, oh, my gosh. Like, should I pull this back? So it's like a, it's a thing that I'm still navigating. And I just got divorced last year officially. Yeah. So I'm like, I got to figure this out because yes, I'm fine. I'm a party girl and all that. But I'm also a model. So. Yeah. How freeing is it for you to become

ASH TOP? Which if listeners, if you were not familiar, Ash TOP is Ashley's drag king alter ego. And he's foin. There's a lot of girls. I'm trying to do. Almost got Karen. Yes. Yeah. The question was, how do I feel fear? How is that, to have that as an outlet?

Yeah, it's like, it's tapping into something that I've always had. Because I do tend to be just like a dominating person. And I, and I have to like scale it back a little bit because I'm a lady, you know, I have a beachhopper, you know, like, yeah. But, yeah, sometimes I just want to put my mustache on and, for me. my pasties out and let it do what it do. So it's definitely free. I love that. Do you think being on reality TV makes it harder to date? 100%. Are you on any of the apps? Not on any apps. Yeah. But these guys, especially successful men, they want nothing to do with this show. Right. Nothing.

They want to protect their privacy. You're like, are you sure? I know. Just be on the show and expose everything. It's really fun. You won't get paid, but it's really fun. How would you get paid? And I don't want you to talk to anybody about it. And I I don't want you to try to ride on my coattails. Like, come on. Yeah. Also, how would you like to grow your business exponentially? Have I got a plan for you? Well, speaking of businesses, I know you've explored a lot outside of Housewives,

owning a restaurant like Oz, releasing music. Do you see those as chapters of your past or seeds you might revisit? Definitely seeds I might revisit. I mean, hospitality is a beast. Yeah. I know, you know. The hospitality is a beast. So it was such a bad experience that I don't even think I'm healed from that yet.

Yeah. The way it took a toll on my marriage, the way that I had to tell these people who were my employees, like, hey, sorry, I can't pay you. It doesn't have to close the restaurant. Yeah. You know, and I'm taking away your livelihood. That was traumatic. That was such a traumatic.

Yeah. I can't even imagine. Yeah. So it's one of the reasons why I'm not too gung-ho about, like, starting more business, business businesses. because I'm just like, wow, what if I, what if it doesn't work? And then all these people who have invested their time and energy, they don't get what they deserve.

Yeah. That's so tough. But you did it, you know, and you miss 100% of the shots you don't take. So it's also a good lesson to your kids to get back up, you know, try something. If you fail, try again. Try it differently. Try something else. But at least you're showing them that.

you did it. And it doesn't always work out, but that's okay. Amen. Yes, that's a word. Thank you. Yes. Of course. You ever feel pressure to prove yourself outside of reality TV or are you just at peace with letting the ride go how it may? I used to feel a lot of pressure because I did used to read the comments and I did used to let. We all did. Right? I mean, it's like a part of, it's a right of passage. Yeah. So because of that, I was like, am I not doing this enough? And some people are like, oh, you're so messy. And so we're like, you're not messy enough or you don't do this. And it's like, I can't please everybody.

So when I became a yogi, that was one of the reasons why I even sought yoga is like, I need to find a way to center myself and calm my monkey mind. Yeah. You know. And I did. When you think about what's next for Ashley Darby, career-wise, personally, emotionally, what excites you the most right now? the endless possibilities. Like, I feel pregnant with possibility in so many ways. And it's like the world is

my oyster. It's so beautiful. I have my children's book that I'm working on. That's right. Yeah. I'm getting into real estate now because I'm very curious about that. It's like all these little things that I'm like dipping and dabbling in. And I'm like, man, I can. Like, why not? You can do it all. Yes. I'm ready to be so delusional. Like, I'm already very delusional. I'm already very delisling. I want to be even more delusional. I love it. Do you feel like you're finally giving yourself permission to change your mind about who you want to be? I'm working on that for sure.

I mean, even going back to how do I sort of reckon being Fun Party Ashley, who the world has seen so much of over these last few years with now being a little more conscious of being mom? Yeah. You know, it's like I'm still trying to give myself permission to let these two people inside of me coexist. Yeah. If you could give free housewives, Ashley, one piece of advice, what would it be? I always say, like, trust the process. Because, like, you know, that's all nice. But I might say,

I'm trying to think about times I've had, like, a gotcha moment. The biggest gotcha moment I had was when Candice told me that stuff about my ex-partner on a camera. That was the biggest gotcha moment that I've had in the course of the show. I would tell Ashley, believe and listen to what is being told to you and to deal with it in the moment, but then go ahead and do your own due diligence. Yeah. Yeah. Because I would either, like, not believe anybody and be like, you're so full of shit, right?

Or I would be, like, believing them with my whole heart and soul. So either way, you just can't do either. You got to, like, have a discerning eye. Yeah. Be open, listen, take it into consideration, but then, you know, do your own Nancy Drew stuff too. Yeah. Last question. What version of Ashley do you feel like fans don't get a CNAF? I would still just be how much I love, not just my own children, but other children in the neighborhood.

Like people come to my house to play with my kids. Yeah. Like there's just this, I want the next generation to feel so supported and loved. And it means so much to me. It's a part of my purpose, I think. And obviously with privacy things, we can't really show children and all that. all that, yeah. So I need to find a way, and I'm working on a way to highlight that and help it benefit other people within the confines. Yeah. Well, hopefully we see more of the children's book

process and all of that, and you can get some of that out in that way. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. Good stuff. Thank you so much for being here. This is so good. I'm so glad you text me. Yes. It's like, I'm in town for one day. Can we podcast? I'm like, yes. I'm so glad it worked out. Always. And you're always such a girl's girl. You are always supporting us. Thank you for saying that. You are. I mean, I know, girl, all I know is how I've seen you interact with me and the people that I know. We have in common. You always hold it down. Thank you. Yeah. So keep doing you. Yes. I will. Thank you so much. Yeah. All right. And finally on the podcast, the Jacks Hole for this week, the still redacted leaders of industry and government tied to the Epstein files, individuals who have abused children and other vulnerable people and the power. institutions and figures continuing to shield them. Silence, secrecy, and protection of the elite enable harm to persist, and we need transparency, okay? Justice for survivors and real consequences. Arrest, accountability, and an end to the systems that protect abusers instead of victims.

And my flowers for the week are going to go to these two beauties right here. Ashley, for just always giving 100%, giving us amazing TV, always just being so open and honest. I'm a girl, Christina, for joining the 40s club. Love you. Thank you all for listening. Thank you, Ashley, and Christina, for joining me. You can watch the first episode of the season 10 reunion

of Real Housewives of Potomac next Sunday on Bravo because this Sunday we've got the Super Bowl. Who are we rooting for? Who's playing? I don't even know who's in the Super Bowl this year, bro. I'm a big old fan. I'm going to say the Patriots because Jazzy's husband plays for the Patriots. Okay.

You're going to Super Bowl. She didn't invite us. I'm going for the Seahawks. Okay, good. Okay. Who's having a Super Bowl party? That's the question. Yeah.

I'm having, well, I mean, my mom's friends have one. You want to come? In Azusa? In Glendora. Oh. Yeah. Okay. I'm talking about it.

Hello. Now we just told everyone where we'll be. Now they all know. Just kidding. We're going to Chuck E. Oh, all right. Follow along the girls on Instagram at Ashley Bullsharby. And you can get Christina.

Christina Arell, that's the K-R-Y-S-T-I-N-A. A-R-E-L. Uh-huh. And if you haven't gotten my book yet, you'll get it. It's New York Times bestseller. Thank you, everyone. Yay. What a fun day.

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