Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - Must-Have Merkins, Milk Meltdowns & Merry Mayhem
Episode Date: December 19, 2025Must-Have Merkins, Milk Meltdowns & Merry MayhemScheana and Kiki close out 2025 with equal parts heartbreak and humor, unpacking the year’s biggest pop culture moments — from Kim Kard...ashian’s merkins and Katy Perry’s space performance to the Coldplay kiss-cam couple, KPop Demon Hunters’ domination, and the tragic events occurring this week with the mass shootings at the Bondi Beach Hanukkah celebration and Brown University, along with the heartbreaking loss of Rob Reiner and his wife Michelle. They also tackle lighter chaos: missing nails, the holiday traditions they’re breaking this year, Nick Viall’s plane-seat fiasco, and whether lying about Santa will inevitably mess up your kid. Scheana opens up about one of her toughest parenting moments yet before the duo dives into the eeriness of kids having paranormal experiences “before the veil lifts.” A heartfelt, hilarious, and perfectly chaotic wrap-up to an unforgettable year. Follow us: @scheana @scheananigans Co-Host: @thetalkofshame Purchase your very own copy of the NYT Best-selling book MY GOOD SIDE at www.mygoodsidebook.com!Episode sponsors:Get 61% off your first Coffee+ Starter Kit, a free A2 Probiotic Creamer, with over $100 in free gifts by going to everydaydose.com/SCHEANA or entering SCHEANA at checkout. Everyday Dose is also available at your local Target.Get TWENTY FIVE DOLLARS OFF your first purchase when you go to TheRealReal.com/goodasgold. Check out squarespace.com/GOODASGOLD for a free trial, and when you’re ready to launch, use GOODASGOLD to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain.Fabletics already has amazing deals, but right now they're running their biggest sale of the year on top of that. And I've got an exclusive offer just for you—eighty percent off everything when you sign up as a VIP. Head to Fabletics.com/GOODASGOLD and sign up as a VIP to get eighty percent off everything. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Welcome back
Welcome back for another week of shenanigans.
How are we doing, Kiki?
Just trying to keep it together, missing one nail, you know.
Me too!
Literally, I'm like, you know what?
Fuck it.
It's just, it is what it is.
It's been, I think, only a full day.
I'm going to try and get an appointment today,
which I'm realizing I should have called right when they opened.
It's 11-11, make a wish.
Oh, okay.
It's interesting that this is your one missing in this one.
I'm like, thumbs up, both passive-aggressive.
I know, right?
Either one is a fuck-you.
Yeah, exactly.
Literal and text message.
I suppose sometimes when I'm just saying like, okay, got it.
People take it because I've said before that like, oh, if you just get a thumbs up for me,
it's usually an F you.
But I'm like, no, no, not in that way.
My mom's like, you just gave me a thumbs up.
I'm like, no, just meaning like I'm acknowledging that I.
I feel like I never thought about thumbs up being a passive aggressive until Salt Lake City Housewives.
Like until it was at that whole.
I was like, oh, God.
Oh, I definitely have used it passive aggressively since I've had an iPhone probably.
Oh, my God.
Or since the like tapping emoji part to come on.
Yeah, because it's just like, fuck you.
Anyway, yeah, I got to fix this.
But it is what it is.
So this weekend, I went to a horse show.
Oh.
What would you think of that if I told you I'm going to a horse show?
Well, you know, my opinion would have been different before this weekend, but then I watched
High Horse the Black Cowboy this weekend.
Oh.
So I actually have a totally different viewpoint on horses and cowboys.
So now, I don't know.
I don't know what I think.
So I didn't know what to call it.
I just knew my friend was competing in a horse show.
And I'm telling two of my friends, Maddie and.
Christy about this. And they, they immediately go to, like, donkey show, like Mexico. Oh, my God. Like
sex show. I think that's where, like, I was like, no, we were all talking about a Christmas
party. And I was like, okay, no, no. The Christmas party is one thing. The horse competition show.
I was like, I don't know if it's like the derby, if they're doing tricks. I have no idea what I'm in for,
but it was like a jumping competition show. So not dressage. I think that's what I know.
I don't know what anything is called. Okay.
We went to the Grand Prix at night.
Okay.
But I didn't know what any of this was.
This was in L'A.?
It was in La Quinta.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, so we were out in the desert.
But our friend competed in it.
He did great.
He got second, third, and fourth.
Oh, nice.
Yay.
Congrats Will.
But, yeah, so I was like, okay, am I supposed to dress?
Like, I'm going to the derby.
Are we doing, like, fascinators and whatnot?
I didn't know.
But, no, we were able to just dress casual.
I got a sweatshirt, like a little crewneck that said equestrian on it.
I love it.
Do I look in the part?
Have you ever ridden horses?
No.
Me neither.
No, no, no.
I grew up very allergic to horses and hay.
I had so many seasonal and just weird allergies as a kid, like grass and pollen, which I still have allergies.
Yeah.
But as a kid, if I was around a horse or hay, I mean, I was miserable, couldn't breathe up until my 20s.
Oh, does Summer Moon have those?
No.
Oh, okay.
No, she's been fine in the allergy department.
Oh.
And hopefully because she's had cats.
Since she was brought home from the hospital, I mean, she doesn't have an allergy to them, whereas
I got cat scratch fever when I was seven.
Oh, wow.
That's like not just a song.
It is a real thing.
No, I heard about it on TikTok.
That's crazy.
On TikTok, yeah.
So all of my lymph nodes swall up the size of like golf balls.
Oh, my God.
I was in second grade and I still had to go to school because it's not like it was contagious.
Oh, my God.
I had to keep up those straight days, you know.
Poor kid.
Maybe that's why I don't remember a lot of my childhood.
I just like had a traumatic experience and just blocked shit out.
That's true.
I mean, I remember very patchy things sometimes.
Yeah, same.
Well, this weekend.
So I wasn't on social media that much.
I think I've forgotten to post stories for a couple of days.
But I did see that there's been a lot of tragedy the past couple days.
I have said multiple times on this podcast and just in life with a husband who has family in both New Zealand and Australia.
Like, it would be so amazing if one day, you know, we lived in Australia, no guns.
That sounds so nice.
I've said that so many times.
And then hearing about the Bondi terrorist attack, I mean, I just, I would have never
thought something like that would happen in Australia, you know, during a Hanukkah celebration.
Bondi Beach, I've been there a few times.
It's beautiful.
I could see us living there one day.
And then to just hear.
And like, if I was rich enough and move.
move to Australia. Like I would want to live in Bondi. And just thinking about how that happened
there, absolutely tragic. It was, it was like surreal because yeah, you think of Australia being
probably one of the safest places in the world. Absolutely. And having the strictest gun laws.
And so it doesn't even comprehend. And yeah, I just can't imagine like celebrating like
anytime someone's in like a religious moment and they're just like really celebrating life.
to be taken out.
It's like it's the most heartbreaking thing.
Yeah.
I think about it every music festival we're at too now, you know, because that's happened
multiple times at music festivals.
And it's just like, God, this world.
Yeah.
And then a mass shooting at Brown University.
Yeah.
And like the craziest thing about that one is it happened on the anniversary of Sandy Hook,
which was tragic.
And then one of the survivors of the Brown University shooting was a Parkland
high school survivor as well.
So it's like imagine having to survive two mass shootings in your very young lifetime.
That's insane.
Yeah.
And the fact that that's the reality in America, I saw something online where there was this
Australian woman who said that the only thing she had ever seen about mass shootings was
clips of it from America.
It's like that's what we're known for.
Yeah.
That it's just so crazy.
It is what we're known for.
But it's happened like more times than we can count.
And it is just so sad.
And you would think like, you know, the worst of the worst.
Like I thought Sandy Hook would have been the moment, like this has to be the change.
Yeah.
If a school full of children doesn't do anything or a church full of parishioners or like, you know, the tree of life.
If a, you know, a synagogue full of people, if none of that can change, I don't know what will change this.
I know.
But then it's like the difference with Australia and America is Australia is trying to take immediate action, trying to figure out what can we do.
to prevent this from ever happening again.
Yeah, because that was why I was even surprised about that shooting
because I think it was like 30 years ago where they had a mass shooting
and then they banned all assault rifles.
So it was like, you know, and I know they will take action.
And I don't even know what we'll do here.
I know.
And then another tragedy, Rob Reiner.
Oh, God.
So.
Him and his wife by his son.
Mm-hmm.
Throats slit.
Yeah.
I mean.
I saw the saddest, like, tweet today because it was like, you know, I hate a sad ending to a good story.
And Rob Reiner got a sad ending to a good story.
Like, it's just nobody deserves to go out that way.
But, like, it's just like, and by your own child, allegedly.
But, like, you know, he has been arrested.
He is being held.
You know, like, it's so sad.
And I just think about the other kids that now have to, like,
carry on.
No, and Rob, I mean, such a huge career made some of our favorite movies, like so many
beloved movies, literally.
But also, I mean, he wasn't just a director, you know, like he was an activist and co-founded
the organization that fought Prop 8 in California.
He dedicated so much of his time and money and just to help, like, pursue the rights for
others, you know, especially.
in the queer community.
And he did a lot for this world
other than just making incredible films.
And it's just sad when a light like that
is taken out before it's their time
in a way like that is just...
Yeah.
You start questioning a lot
because you're just like
when good people start going out
in horrific ways
and then like terrible people
seem to just like keep multiplying.
Yeah.
What are we doing?
Yeah.
No, I remember he had like such an instrumental role
in the Supreme Court decision on gay marriage.
Oh, wow.
And just, yeah, great person.
So a lot of tragedies this weekend.
I would like to get into a more merrier topic,
but I'm going to take a break and we'll be right back.
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All right. So moving on to a more merrier topic. Christmas is next week. I think we'll be taking a break from the pod for a week just to enjoy family shenanigans and festivities.
But I think what I'm going to do from my last episode of the year, kind of first episode of the year, is do some like home recordings with my little mobile equipment.
Probably won't be video. But just when we have our big family Christmas, have some of my cousins on, my mom, my sister.
just do a little family episode.
That'll be fine.
Yeah, we did that once or twice for like Thanksgiving.
I did like a friend's giving and everyone who is at the house.
I'm like, come on, come on, tell some stories.
So, and I figured I would get dressed for the occasion today since this will be the last
video podcast of the year.
Do you like it?
I love it.
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I love it.
Yeah, I was going for the Santa vibe today.
What are your plans for Christmas?
You're going back home?
You hear?
I actually decided to make like a question.
quick trip home. I normally do not travel during the holidays, but I am going to like make a
quick trip to my parents. And then right after Christmas, I'm going straight to Mexico. And you will
not see me until the new year. Fun. Okay. So you're doing that for New Year's. Yes. Which part?
Holbosch. Oh, where is that? It's like kind of an island, I think off of Touloum. They call it like the
new Tulum. It's very remote. Like there's no car to take a ferry. Oh, okay. No. It's like, it's like, it's like very,
Yeah, it's like no like I don't think a lot of people like really go there. So I like the undiscovered sort of and it's like the resort looks amazing. Yeah, I'm excited.
Oh my God. I can't wait to watch your stories. Oh my gosh. Are you doing a solo trip or do you have friends? No, it's because it's my friend's birthday like January 1. And so we're kind of like we're going to celebrate her birthday and the New Year's and then yeah. Fun. My friend's birthday is New Year's Eve. Okay. So we're doing a thing too. So fun. Yes, I'm excited. Kids or no kids? No kids. Oh God. All girls. Girls trip.
Yes. Love it.
Do you have any fun traditions that you do with your family since you are going back home?
I think it's mostly centered around, like, food.
Like my mother, every Christmas since she was a child, always had fried oysters.
And I remember as a kid thinking that was the most disgusting thing in the world.
I still think that.
But like, as an adult, I'm like, oh, I actually partake with her.
My dad always cooks like a big Christmas day breakfast and sort of like, that's really our tradition to sort of like grazing.
And I think the night before, like I always want a honey baked ham.
So it's like the night before, then we have leftovers, and so it's just a lot of that.
Yeah, Summer just had her first honey-baked ham on Thanksgiving, and she loved it.
So good.
She's like, oh, my God, what is this?
I'm like, see, you've been missing out on certain things.
She loves steak now.
Oh.
She just said she needed to wait until she was a little older, and she's four now.
Oh, okay.
And now she likes sushi, aka an avocado roll.
Oh, okay.
But I'm like, I want no avocado in my sushi.
That's what my mom is.
While our Christmas traditions are getting all fucked up this year because Miss Summer Moon wants to be at her house, understandably so, in L.A., come down the stairs, see the fireplace, the big Christmas tree, and wants Santa to come to L.A.
Whereas we have been in Palm Springs every year. Her whole life, I have my traditions on Christmas Eve. I love all of the Palm Springs shops.
Like, I am crazy.
I hate shopping 99% of the year.
I hate trying on clothes more than anything.
I would literally rather put our trash cans out every day for the rest of my life than try on clothes.
I love going to the mall at Christmas time when it is just chaotic as fuck.
I just love it.
I don't know.
I act like I can just swipe my card and never look back.
And I just like spend so much money.
But it's the only time of year I really shop.
Okay.
And, you know, I am very blessed with my clothes and stuff that I get things from all my favorite brands.
And so I don't shop for me.
Yeah.
I'm like, I just, whatever.
But I love shopping for other people.
Okay.
And I don't get to do that this year because I will be in Los Angeles.
Oh, no.
So I might just go to, like, the Valley, like Westfield Mall or whatever.
Okay.
Just to get a little Christmas fix-in.
But Christmas morning, it's just going to be the three of us at the house, which, I mean,
we are the little family unit,
but I'm like,
so my mom's not making corn pancakes for breakfast?
Like,
I'm not going to have the smell of bacon when I wake up.
How did she convince you?
Like, did you try to convince her?
Like, well, come on.
Let's go to,
or was she just like, no, we're going to be in L.A.
So I told her because my sister in Justice,
they're still going to be in Palm Springs.
They're like, well, this is what we always do.
I'm like, I understand that.
But there's one child in this family,
and she wants to wake up in her house and her bed on Christmas.
So I'm going to do what she wants.
I said, you guys are more than welcome to everyone spend the night and still have the same
morning, but then they drive to Vegas for Justice's family.
Okay.
And it's just easier to go from Palm Springs.
Obviously, it's a shorter trip.
So my mom feels bad that they'll be by themselves on Christmas Eve because summer will
have us.
So they're all going to be at my house in Palm Springs.
And we'll drive out Christmas, like, afternoon or whenever we're finished at the house
with presents.
But yeah.
So I'm like, I told Summer, I said, well, you know, you're not going to see Coco and Jesse for Christmas then.
If we are here, you know, you sure don't want to do Palm Springs because you're not going to see him.
She goes, that's fine.
I was like, okay.
So.
I wonder if it's because like in this world where we're all connected by FaceTime and stuff, it doesn't feel like, because, you know, we know that we're going to like call you.
Right.
And so even though we're not there, we can be more attached than like in the olden days.
Yeah.
The 1900s.
Right.
Yeah. So it'll be different this year. I'm like, I thankfully, though, I have the monitor on her.
So if I'm like wrapping presents and stuff late at night, like I know, like, what if she hears
something and then she comes downstairs? I think we should do everything in the garage.
Oh, yeah. That's smart. That's smart. Because I'm like, I just, I have a system in Palm Springs.
But we even last year, we did the garage in Palm Springs because I'm like, if she comes out,
it's only like five steps. At least I would hear her pitter pattering down the stairs.
Oh, yeah. I mean, and that's a core memory. I remember the moment I, I,
learned there was no Santa. And I was, it's like, those are the things that stick with you. And I was
like, how dare they lie to me all these years? Now you're in therapy. You're like, my parents told me
a man was coming down my chimney. I didn't have a chimney, so I had never understood that. But like,
you know, there's always explanations around that. Always. I'm like, I don't know, magic. Yeah.
Magic. This morning, she wanted to call Mrs. Claus. She goes, do you have her number? And I was like,
yeah, of course I do.
She's like, can we call her?
And I was like, not right now.
I think she's sleeping.
She's like, well, we can go watch the live stream
of the North Pole and see if she's awake.
So we go on YouTube because they have a North Pole live stream for all my parents
listening out there.
Just type in North Pole live stream 2025.
And it's like security camera footage of all of Santa's workshop.
Oh.
And it is adorable.
But she sees Mrs. Claus and she goes, see, she's awake.
I was like, oh, she didn't answer.
See, and these are the things we should be using AI.
for good. Like you should be able to call Mrs. Claus. You can have a conversation with you real time. Wait, I wonder
if I'm able to do that somehow because I was trying to Google like Santa Claus phone number, but then, you know,
the typical things come up if a kid were to Google it. So maybe I ask. We can just invent it. I mean,
at this point, let's just invent. We keep coming up with inventions on this show. We never do them.
Someone just probably taking all these ideas, making millions and billions. Seriously, just living out
our dreams. Wait, I was going to say something else. Okay, Summer, Mrs. Claus.
I don't know, but everything, I'm just like, I don't know, it's magic, it's magic.
And it's so fun, though, to see Christmas through a child's eyes, but then I also feel guilty.
I'm like, oh, my God, I'm just like, mind my kid all the time.
Is this going to fuck her up?
But I'm like, the magic.
It's like, it's still there.
The other day, she blinked and she goes, I just saw an elf.
And what was so weird was in that moment, something in my peripheral, like I saw something move.
Yeah.
But I was like, wait, I think I saw that.
too. And she goes, the blue and pink elf. And I'm like, I just, there was some flicker of light.
I'm like, I don't know. But just when she blinked and opened her eyes, that's what she saw.
I love it. And I was like, I thought it was just like a squirrel outside. You know?
And I was like, oh my God, that's so cute. Like she thinks that she's just like, maybe she does.
Yeah. Who knows? I mean, kids, you never know.
I think when before the veil like fully falls or goes up or whatever it is, like kids are able to have certain
paranormal experiences and can see things that we can't see. I know. I did. Yeah. Yeah.
I have videos of summer when she was two or younger sitting in her crib and she's having a
full conversation with someone. And I remember asking her and I go, who were you talking to?
And she got so embarrassed and was like, no, no. And I was like, no, honey, it's okay. But like ever
since she was like a year and a half and two years, however old, and we started having conversations,
I forget how old she was when she started talking.
Like a year?
I don't know.
But I remember her always and she's still like this.
She gets so embarrassed so quickly.
And I'm like, you didn't do anything wrong.
And it's like she wants to hide.
She goes under a table.
And I'm like, what can I do to help?
Because she's a deeply feeling kid.
Yeah.
I know there are workshops for that.
I have one that my therapist sent me that I haven't done yet.
I need to do that.
But with when I ask her something, I'm like,
I don't want her to not be able to open up to me
when she's older and like something happens at school or a kid touches her the wrong way or
hurts her or something. I'm like, I don't want her to feel like I can't talk to you. Yeah. And that
was the first moment where I realized that she just, I mean, I'm hoping that as she gets older and
the next school she goes, it helps with like communication and feelings and talking and whatnot. But
I'm like, you were talking to someone. You saw someone when you were in that crib. Yeah. And then there
was another time in the and I don't know maybe it was the house that we were living in at the time
but there was another moment where the camera Brock and I are downstairs and the camera went off
and it said caregiver is helping summer moon and I'm like the fuck we're both downstairs and I check
the camera and she goes and I was like wait what like as if there was like a ghost or an angel or
something like tickling her in her sleep because the camera detected there was a
caregiver helping her in the crib.
Oh my God.
No one was there.
Oh my God.
So I was just like, oh, that was Puna and Papa.
Mess in peace.
Anyway, okay, I have a lot that we're going to get into.
We've just been talking.
So I'm going to take one more break and then we'll be right back.
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what a year it's been
just kind of review
some highlights of the year.
Katie Perry
sang in space
it was not well received
down on earth
no not at all
but now she's dating
a prime minister
which is so random
I'm sorry
is that not random
I mean
to each their own
you know
I don't know
it just seems so random
to me
yeah
I guess
but it's like a person
of power
with a famous person
so it's kind of works
you know
you don't really
see super famous alist people
dating just like regular people.
They seem like they like each other.
Yeah.
Okay.
Taylor Swift entered her showgirl era and now her
fiance era.
Mm-hmm.
Two eras in one year.
Which I don't think I'm that surprised by.
I think we all,
I think there is like a very sort of like calculated
way she has to go through life, right?
You know?
And so I think we kind of all expected it.
But we knew it also was going to be a big spectacle.
I can't even imagine what the wedding is going to be like.
I know.
Yeah.
Oh, to be a fly at that wedding.
I know.
That would be amazing.
Kim Kardashian, she not only sold Merkins, but she became an actress.
Yes.
So, you know, snaps to her.
I mean, if anyone could sell a Merkin and sell them out, it's Kim Kardashian.
I'm not going to buy a Merkin, but I do love All's Fair, and I'm very excited for season two.
Speaking of actresses, Sydney, Sweeney's American Eagle ad got called out.
Oh, God.
Though Scooter Braun apparently got called up.
Sydney seems like she's in her flop era for a lot of people.
So I don't really know how she's going to bounce back.
I mean, euphoria is coming in 2026.
Do we even care?
I don't know.
That show I don't think has been on since I've been a mother.
That's what I'm saying.
It's like I don't even know what's happening.
Like, that was in my D-D era.
Yeah.
That show.
Oh, my God.
I still have the pants.
I wonder if they'll make a comeback.
You know the ones that had like the open side?
Oh, my gosh.
Okay.
I know.
I would never have worn them.
But I had an era.
We had the cold play kiss cam couple who went viral for not kissing.
Mm-hmm.
That story took a lot of twist and turns.
It did.
It still is.
I feel like I'm still seeing things on Snapchat.
Yeah.
It was like CEO's wife speaks out.
Yeah.
I'm kind of like, what do we really know what happened?
All I know is like it went viral.
Yeah.
Uh-huh.
Beyonce.
Finally, finally one album of the year for a country album.
but it's an album of the year.
And I want everybody go to Peacock
and go watch High Horse the Black Cowboy
because it's a three-part docu series
that Jordan Peel's production.
Oh, nice.
I honestly, like, I already loved Cowboy Carter
but hearing, because Beyonce's mom is in the film too.
Oh, okay.
Hearing from her and just sort of like
the reclamation of like black people and country music,
it just now I want to just like,
it's the only album I want to listen to.
Yeah, love it.
Yeah.
Speaking of albums, K-pop Demon Hunters, I guess it's not really an album, but the soundtrack, Golden, took over every family's, everything, and every other person's radio.
I knew about it, but because I don't have kids, I didn't know, know about it, but I mean, it was a big thing.
I know.
I'm like, wait, is Summer's song officially going to go from good as gold to golden?
Oh, my, probably.
At least it stays in the colors.
Yeah.
We'll see come June when I have to fill out her preschool thing.
And they tell you on the last one, I made her change her song because she said good as gold again.
And I was like, summer, no one's going to believe me.
I'm like, how about a tap, but she's like, okay.
But I want to see what she genuinely says next year, not veer her one way or another.
Jet 2 Laboooo fever swept the globe like Beanie Babies on Celsius.
Yeah.
I mean, insane.
Even I have three Labuboos.
I don't even know how many I have at this point.
Oh, really?
I know I have two minis.
I've got a have a seat.
I've got three of the OG ones.
I've got a fall in the wild.
Okay.
There's one more.
Oh, the Coca-Cola.
I got the shrimp one.
Okay.
Wow.
A lot of Labibos.
That was a lot of Labibos.
Dang, I didn't even realize I had that many until they counted.
They're like not even summers.
They're just yours.
She was like, she gets one and she's like, oh, cool.
And then like, is not interested.
So I'm like, I mean, now they're, they're money.
Yeah. Anyway, I haven't seen mine for a minute. I think they're in a backpack. I should try to put them back out.
The Louvre got robbed in broad daylight. Like, how does that happen? I know. And the robbers, I mean, the pictures I saw, there was hot ones. Yeah. That's when I would do love, some love during lockup stuff.
Uh-huh. We got an American Pope. Oh, yeah. I think it's from Chicago, right? Yeah. Yeah. Diddy went to prison?
He did. Have you watched the next?
Netflix doc. I did. And it was, I was like, okay, I thought 50 cent was going to be petty when he put
it together. And I thought he did a fair and balanced job. However, I will say now learning some of the
things, like, especially like the Tupac shooting, there's some things that I think we were being
pushed to believe that he did, that we actually, if we go to court records, we already know he
didn't have a part of. So I do kind of wonder sort of how fair and balance, but it was still a good
doc. Okay. I haven't watched it yet. I heard it was wild. Yeah. Add it to the list.
I'm so behind on everything.
There's a lot to watch.
I'm one episode, and then I'm caught up to Salt Lake.
Okay.
And speaking of, Jen Shaw got out of prison.
I know.
I mean, that was quick, like, two, just under three years from like a six and a half year sentence.
I mean, like that, usually you think with these federal crimes, they don't not, you usually do, like, I thought, like 99% of your time.
Yeah.
Crazy.
And then the White Lotus gave a whole new meaning to brotherly love.
Oh, God.
Yeah, that was a lot.
I still haven't watched that one.
Oh, you haven't?
I know.
I'm so behind.
All right.
Maybe you can get caught up during Christmas break.
I have to get caught up on Mormon wives.
I still have not watched because it's like I feel like I lived some of it, you know?
You did.
That I haven't been in a rush that I need to watch 11 hours, like right away.
Yeah.
I'm trying to catch up on Bravo.
I haven't even started Beverly Hills yet.
Okay.
I'm like, fuck, I'm behind.
Yeah.
I'm going to just like take a day and just like fry my eyes.
Jimmy Kimmel got taken off the air.
That was major.
For what, like a week?
I don't even know if it was like a full week.
Was it?
Yeah, it was like days.
Yeah, I just felt like it was a lot of more online stuff that was happening.
Yeah.
We lost several icons, Diane Keaton, Ozzy Osbourne, Robert Redford, and obviously Rob Reiner.
Yeah.
I mean, 2025 was not kind.
No.
TikTok almost got banned a couple of times.
Yeah, went offline for a little bit.
Yeah.
Just felt like...
What was that like a night?
Yeah, exactly.
Gen Alpha introduced 6-7 into the lingo.
Oh, God.
I don't even know what that means.
Nobody does.
It doesn't mean anything.
It just means 6-7, 6-7.
You just say it.
It doesn't mean...
What the fuck?
Like the kids are saying this?
Yeah.
Isn't summer Gen Alpha?
Yeah.
Just 6-7.
She says Shubidua.
And I'm like, where did this come from?
But she's like, okay, Shubidua.
It's the funniest thing
It's like
It's so cute
I said shoot the other day
And she goes
Shoot what's shoot
And I go
Oh it's like biscuits
You know
Like bandit says
Oh biscuits
I go sorry
Mommy should have said biscuits
But I'm like
At least I didn't say shit
I know
And in and out
Had to remove 67
from their order numbers
Yeah
because you know
They can't help
themselves
They go into every restaurant
And make
The workers' lives hell
Netflix made a bid to buy Warner Brothers.
Yeah, now Paramount is trying to make a hostile bid, so I don't even know how this is all going to work out.
So who even knows what we'll see on our screens in the future?
I know.
Interesting.
AI has officially taken over our lives.
Terrified.
Officially.
Yeah.
I mean,
I don't like.
Literally at all of the school tours that we're going to and stuff, someone asks the question or it's already brought up of how they're working in AI to the curriculum and
it's wild but it is the future you know i don't know i don't like it it's crazy i have to like
tell summer because i'm just trying to keep her humble from a young age how like this shit is not
the norm okay we didn't grow up with us we got to go to the library find the book read the book
cite the book and like i i just go hey chat can you da da da and here yeah i go honey we didn't even
have phones we did not have google we did not have chat i tell her and she's like wait you didn't have
this, like, what? And I'm like, no, there's like a, was it the Dewey Decimal System? No, I'm saying,
they wouldn't even know what the Dewey Decimal System. Does it even exist? Like, are like, do people
use it still? I don't know. I don't even remember completely. I just, I've told her, I'm like,
we had dial up. I go, there was this, which I'm thinking about, you know, I'm not going to say it on
here, because someone might do it, but I'll tell you that after. But I was like, it was like,
she's like, wait, what? I'm like, no, to get like on the internet. We had a plug phones into the wall.
I said, and you know, Wizard of Oz, I believe this is fact, was the first film ever made
in color, right?
If not, I thought I've heard that somewhere, whatever.
Sounds right.
That's what she's going to grow up believing.
And she was like, so, wait, it was just black and white.
I'm like, well, yeah, because, oh, this is how it got brought up.
When we were in New York, we took her to Rise and Why.
It's this really cool museum that has like a sornover New York ride at the end.
It's just, it's really cool.
But you're walking through all of these different rooms.
and there's like a Broadway room
and they have like costumes and all of this stuff.
But then they have the TV area
and they have a set that is in black and white
showing what it used to look like.
But I'm like explaining her,
I go, no, no, no.
The people like all of this would have been color.
Yeah.
But when you're watching it on TV,
it was just black and white.
There was no color.
And I said, and when Nani was a kid
and she's just like, what?
Just blowing her mind.
She's like, I just,
she can't imagine a world without AI and cell phones.
Maybe start showing her I love Lucy
because I feel like that's a show she would like, and then, you know.
We did watch some old episodes of the Mickey Mouse Club in black and white, and she was into it.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
So, you know, all of the original Disney films, she likes the cartoons more than she likes the remakes.
Okay.
Which I love.
That's cool.
Because I'm like, okay, she's still into like that stuff that we grew up with.
But we were the last generation to grow up semi-normal.
Yeah.
Fucking weird.
Self-driving cars, you know, are everywhere now.
Yeah.
I see those way, was it Waymo or?
Oh, I love Waymo's.
Okay, I haven't done it yet.
Yeah.
But one cut me off the other day.
Really?
Very aggressive Waymo.
I was like, excuse me.
And, you know, the Jetson's flying car might actually be hitting the market.
I still feel like, I don't know.
I think it could happen.
I don't know if I trust.
At this point, I don't know if I trust people flying cars around me.
Yeah.
2025 had it all.
You know, the wild, the shocking, the heartwarming, the moments that brought us together,
moments that tore us apart.
Lots of shenanigans.
Yeah.
More to come next year.
What were your 2025 highlights?
Honestly, like, I think finding community because I think there was a lot of bullshit and just
finding community with people that were like at least on the same wavelength because
it just sometimes it feels like we're so divided in so many ways.
Yeah.
Like it's so messed up because the fires were the first thing we started with in
L.A. And it was the most devastating thing ever, but, like, I've never seen L.A. like, come together
in such a way. And it's like, I hate that it takes that, you know, to do that. That type of tragedy sometimes.
Yeah. So, you know, I just, you know, any moments where I could find where we could just, like, all come together and it makes me feel like there's still good people out there would make me give me hope.
Yeah. What are the Talk of Shame's top, say, three moments of the year? Oh, God. I mean, here's the thing. So I always think.
of the things that most recent. So right now, all I can think about is heated rivalry. And of course,
hunting wives. And I think just like, I love that smut is coming back to TV and we're just enjoying
cheesy things again. Because, like, I feel like, I want us to be able to enjoy those cheesy
things. And I also want us to be, like, a little less, like, pent up. Like, I want us to be
free as we used to be as well. Like, I don't think everything has to be so politically correct all the time.
We can still have fun. And, like, so I'm enjoying that, like, those sites.
of screenplays are getting or having a moment right now yeah I always love that when like really
like iconic people sort of get called out and like it's kind of they're brought back to earth like
right now I'm like who the hell is Gwen Stefani this is a woman I'm so like what is happening
to Gwen Stefani because I have loved this woman my whole life and I kind of love that collectively
the internet is just like F you Gwen Stefani can we talk about non iconic people getting called out
Yes.
Did you hear about Nick Vile and the whole airplane incident?
Oh, God.
I mean, I know he's had a couple of incidents.
What's the airplane one?
Okay.
So last week, Nick and Natalie sat on their podcast.
They were talking about a story about how they intentionally made a passenger's life hell
because the passenger wouldn't switch seats so they could sit together with their kid.
Oh, God.
So basically, I guess Nick and Natalie were both in middle seats and they had asked a guy who was in an aisle seat if he would
switch and the guy said no he didn't want to switch to a middle seat so apparently they were like
texting each other the whole flight whatever just like oh let the kid run a muck like let's make
this guy's life hell oh my god how okay that it's not even just that guy it's the whole fucking
yeah like that is entitled like asshole behavior yeah who does that that's actually disgusting
yeah so the internet has been divided on this some people say the passenger should have just
switch, you know, a kid's involved, but others say the parents just, as you said, were
entitled.
Yeah.
Why?
First of all, middle seat.
Nobody is taking a middle seat at all.
And I'm sorry.
Like, I'm going to sit in the seat that I paid for unless the other option is so much
better that it makes me want to move.
But don't give me a worse option.
Yes.
And then get mad at me.
So I'm wondering when they booked the flight, did they not pick their seats?
Why were they both in middle seats?
Are they flying standby?
did they get upgraded to comfort
and they're both in middle seats?
It has to be either something like an upgrade
or it was a last minute flight
and these were the only available
and they just assumed like
we'll be able to switch
because we've done it all the times before.
Right, but when it's a middle and a middle
for an aisle or a window, it's not that easy.
No.
So I also am someone who travels with a kid often.
I actually, I'm so proud of myself
because I just flew back from New York
by myself with Summer.
Okay.
So if you asked me,
me even probably a year and a half ago what my top like 10 out of 10 fear anxiety exposure therapy
moment would be. I remember telling my therapist a flight with summer by myself or a theme park
with her by myself. And I haven't had the opportunity to fly somewhere alone with her unless I just
planned a trip to do this exposure. I'm like, it'll happen one day whenever it's meant to be.
We flew back from Vegas once and Brock was on the flight,
but for whatever reason, he was in the back and we were in the front.
It's a common thing when we fly.
But I did like everything by myself, but he was still on the plane.
So this time we had, this is the problem.
If I don't put things in my calendar, I double book.
I booked a New York trip to come.
And I was like, well, shit.
This was not a cheap New York trip.
There was nothing covered or comfort.
on this trip. This was a full price paid, just a normal family trip to New York that I did do a
work dinner and a podcast. Well, expense it somehow. But it was like we normally stay at this
hotel. This hotel was sold out. It's like shoppers week. And so I'm like scrambling. Like,
okay, this is, I usually just email and this is our go to hotel sold out, second hotel, sold out, sold out
everywhere. And I'm like, fuck, I already booked flights. Yeah. Do we cancel this trip? So we end up
finding a hotel walking distance from Rockefeller and all the places we need to go. So expensive.
Oh my God. And you go in the room and you're like, oh, you're standard. But okay, didn't matter.
Family trip. And it was great. It was a spacious room. It had like an extra couch that Summer wanted for her bed.
Okay. I was like, okay, it was like a nice comfy velvet couch. It's nice. And so as we're in New York,
I'm like, you know, we double booked. We should be at this event, but then we'd have to fly back so early. So Brock's like, change my
flight. I'm going to go back early, represent for the family. So he leaves at like 4 a.m.
to get on the 6 a.m. flight to get back, go to this event. He did. Made a good impression.
They were very happy. Okay. And I was like, okay, well, this is me and you, Summer. Just the two of us.
And I was trying to make our flight later. But because I checked the seats on the flights later,
there were only middle seats. Or it was like, it was not worth it. I'm like, I would rather
take the early flight thank you Delta for the upgrade we got upgraded to comfort
nice but they put us in different rows and so I was like oh shoot I'm in 31 she's
in 32 someone's gonna have to switch yeah because it's a child in her own seat and so
when I looked it was like a two three two and we had the two so I was like oh well that's easy
it's someone just switching aisle for aisle window yeah so that wasn't an issue yeah had we taken a later
flight, I was like, no, no. So I had the hell of getting her up on my own. We've got the elf on the
shelf. I'm trying to just like get her dressed. The car's there. It just, it's raining. And I'm like
trying to get the stuff in the car. So I have all of our bags. I get down, go through the, what are
those doors called? The revolving doors. Get all our stuff out. She just wants milk. She wants
a cup of milk. We didn't have a fridge or anything like that in the room. There's,
there's no milk. And so the whole hour and 20 minutes to JFK, I want milk, milk. I'm like,
just go back to sleep. We get to JFK. We get, thank God for TSA pre-check. We get through so
quickly. And I'm like, milk. I see it. We go. We get the milk. She goes, I'm okay. I'll save
it for the plane. You're kidding me. For the last two hours, milk. The amount of time she said
milk, if that was a drinking game, I would have been dead.
Yeah.
It was just, and then she's like, no, I'm fine.
We'll save it for the plane.
So we get on the plane.
It's almost a six-hour flight coming back from New York.
She did not sleep a wink, but we did it.
We ate our snacks.
We got our food.
We played games.
We watched movies.
I just, I entertained her and we hung out.
And it was great.
And I'm like, holy shit.
I did that.
Yeah.
Like, people do this all the time.
So I'm sure there are some people out there rolling their fucking eyes at me right now.
But like, for me, I will say I had the life back in my bag just right above in case, God forbid, she or anyone else on the plane choked.
Yeah.
I've heard very tragic stories that did not end well for children who have choked on airplanes.
Oh, wow.
And so I'm like, that's the one thing.
If I'm traveling alone with her, even if Brock and I, like, that's just one thing I pack in my carry on.
How big is the life act?
It's like this big.
Yeah.
So, I mean, it fit.
I could shove it.
in a big purse if I needed to, but I was like, that's a little aggressive. Like, if God forbid
we need it, I can grab it from the overhead compartment and get it out quick enough before
she would choke that bad. I can just buy one of those for Christmas for myself because like I do
have that like Cynthia Nixon and sex in the city fear of like living alone and then you like
choke on a hot dog and you're like, what's more embarrassing than dying alone as a single
woman with your cat eating your face? Literally nothing. I mean, nothing that's more
embarrassing mortified. No, but that's the thing that I think about when I'm considering I have an
eye appointment in like two days. I'm considering getting LASIC because I'm like, okay, my worst fear is
Brock isn't home. Someone breaks in my house at night. I can't find my glasses and I can't fucking
see to identify the person to the police or like even like find my taser. And it's just like,
I want to be able to see if I need to. See, I have other intrusive thoughts about Lysics,
but I won't put them in your head.
Please don't.
Because from what I've heard, there's a zero percent chance that I could go blind.
So I'm going to just live in that world.
You're not going to go blind.
You're not going to go blind.
Like, that's why I haven't gotten it.
But I will say, I'm going to talk to my eye doctor about this.
I'm 40.
And I notice a difference in my vision.
My near-sightedness.
I'm losing it.
And I don't want to have to start wearing breeding glasses.
But I'm going to.
I was clipping Summer's nails last night.
And I was like, oh, shit.
Yeah.
It's a real thing.
When they say in your 40s, oh, no.
It's at 40.
I can't clip her nails without, like, I have to.
No, it's, it's, aging is humbling and, like, all the things that, like, I used to, like, not, you know, laugh about it by my mom.
I'm like, oh, my God.
Like, these are real life things.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
Well, to wrap up the podcast, we've got a jacks hole and we've got some flowers.
This week's jacks hole, I'm sure you would agree.
We should give it to Donald Trump.
for showing zero empathy
and how he's handled the tragic events of this week.
Yeah.
Any thoughts there?
Either he needs to stay off truth social
or keep going so we can all see
what a big, dumbass you are.
But this week's flowers are going to go to Ahmed al-Amed.
He is the 43-year-old father of two
who became an absolute hero
during the tragic shooting at Bondi Beach in Sydney.
Most people, you hear gunshots,
you're going to run, you know, you're going to cover, but Ahmed didn't run. He charged at one of the
gunmen, wrestled the weapon away, and helped stop any further loss of life. And even though, you know,
he was shot in the process, he's still with us. He was courageous. I mean, the selflessness that that took.
And just the quick action, you know, saved so many people's lives. I have a full.
friend who I was with at the OCD conference and he was in a similar situation and protected
the wife and kid and then ran after. And I'm just like, these men deserve to be celebrated because
that's the kind of bravery and leadership that we need more of and that I want to lift up this
week. So to Ahmed, you get my flowers. And thank you for being here, Kiki. Thank you all for
listening. Make sure to listen to Kiki Weekdays on Radio Andy's reality
tracked and you can find her on Instagram at The Talk of Shame. And if you are
looking for a holiday present for someone, you know, there is a New York Times best
selling book called My Good Side that I highly recommend and you can get it in time
for Christmas. So check it out if you haven't or the audiobook, you know. But I hope
everyone has a Merry Christmas. Happy holidays. We will be back in a couple of weeks.
audio only.
We'll get into some family shenanigans on that one.
And then I'll see you back here in the Dear Media Studio in the new year.
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