Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - Scheana Spills On Holiday Chaos, Stepping Away From Reality TV, and What’s Next
Episode Date: January 9, 2026This week, Scheana is answering your listener questions and catching you up on a holiday season that was equal parts magical and chaotic — including a hit-and-run, a broken window, two surg...eries, and a holiday that is still not over yet for the Davies household (darn those naughty elves). Scheana reflects on some of her favorite VPR moments, clears up some long-standing misconceptions, and opens up about what stepping away from reality TV has taught her. She also dishes on finding (and setting) boundaries, seasoned vs seasonal friendships, mental health, and why her healing era is her happiest one yet. She answers your questions about motherhood, internet trolls, and what the future may hold — including when you might see her back on your screens again. Tune in to find out! Follow us: @scheana @scheananigans Purchase your very own copy of the NYT Best-selling book/audiobook MY GOOD SIDE at www.mygoodsidebook.com!Episode sponsors:Willie’s sold out 3 times in the first 6 months with over 50,000+ happy customers and they just restocked. Willie’s ships directly to your doorstep in 40+ states. Order now at drinkwillies.com and use code SCHEANA for 20% off your first order + free shipping on orders over $95, and enjoy life in the high country.Get organized, refreshed, and back on track this new year for WAY less. Head to Wayfair.com right now to shop all things home. Wayfair. Every style. Every home.If you think you might be struggling with OCD and want to learn more about therapy with NOCD, go to nocd.com and schedule a free 15-minute call with their team.Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.Produced by Dear Media.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Warm up the kettle.
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Let's get into some shenanigans with Sheena Shea.
Welcome back to shenanigans.
Happy New Year.
It feels good to be back.
I hope you all had a great holiday.
I'm here solo in the studio today.
I thought I would just kick it off with y'all with all of the questions you sent in,
talk about the holidays and all of the things.
And you guys send in so many questions.
I'm just going to get right into it.
I'm going to probably be long-winded with some answers.
But I have a lot of cards, as you see.
And I'm going to try and get there as many of these as I can.
First up, how are your holidays?
Honestly, comical, I swear.
There was a series of unfortunate events, which I will get.
into, but with that said, I really want to start with the positives because there were a lot.
We had such a sweet Christmas with summer. It just makes everything feel more magical.
You know, when you're seeing Christmas through a child's eyes, I will say, I still feel guilty
lying to my kid about Santa and elf and all of the things. But that's the magic of Christmas,
you know? And I hope one day she's not in therapy for it. Like my mom told me there was this elf and
all of those things. But, you know, once that guilt feeling bad, feeling passes, then I'm like,
it's so cute to just see her watching the Santa tracker. And we had a very different Christmas this
year. I don't even know if I've talked about this yet because I've been off for a couple weeks.
But we stayed in L.A., which we, I've honestly, in my entire life, in my 40 years, I've never had a
Christmas in Los Angeles until this year. I've been in Azusa. I've been in Palm Springs,
maybe Vegas. I've been everywhere except L.A. So that was different, but I loved it. It put me in a bit
of a funk at first because my family was all in Palm Springs at my house without us. But it's
what my daughter wanted. And what my daughter wants, my daughter gets most of the time. And Christmas
Eve went, spent it with some of her school friends in Toluca Lake. They have this really
cute parade. We did that. We stayed way too late. I will not do that again. Came home,
had so many presents to wrap. But then Christmas morning, it was like crazy storms in L.A.
Right? It's like raining for the first time. And I don't even know how many years. But it was
nice. We had some friends come over. We had mimosas and bagels and crepes and crepes.
brought cooked, we played games, and it was just, it was nice, different, but nice. Summer did say
she likes Palm Springs more, so I think that tradition will continue this year. Oh my God,
just saying this year is crazy because like this year, my daughter is going to kindergarten.
And I can't even wrap my head around that. Oh, we also squeezed in a fun Vegas trip. That was
so fun. We were with the parents. We did a parents weekend, although it was a Monday, Tuesday, but,
you know, it's a weekend. Every day is the same when you're on Christmas break in Los Angeles or
Vegas. Every day feels the same. We saw Backstreet Boys again and I will probably be going again
in February, but it was so much fun. We saw Backstreet Boys. We saw Absinth. We stayed at the Venetian.
It's so nice. I highly recommend this if y'all are going to anything at the sphere, the Wizard of Oz,
the Eagles, the Backstreet Boys, no doubt. Can't wait for that. But at the Venetian, you just like
walk through the conference center. You don't even have to go outside. So that was so much fun.
And just so many memories. You know, I'm very blessed. I'm very grateful. And those were the positives
of the holidays. Now to the chaos. So I don't want to sound like I'm complaining. I just was like
one thing after another. And I talked to my business manager. And I was like, hey, so when it rains,
it pours. And there's going to be a lot of charges coming up on the Amex, just giving you a heads up.
we had a golf ball, break one of our windows in Palm Springs.
Thankfully, they're double-pained, but I guess both pains have to be replaced.
It's a whole thing I'm getting an estimate tomorrow on.
But that happened in front of our eyes, which was so crazy because I have had this house since 2018.
Golf balls are in my backyard all the time.
There's some nicks in the walls, but for a window to shatter in front of my face, when we're all swimming in the pool, just wild.
So got to get that fixed.
Then in L.A., our dishwasher, our nice, expensive Viking dishwasher just completely gave up on us.
The warranties out.
So we have to replace that.
And then on top of the dishwasher, when I was out Christmas shopping, I don't know at which place because I had one day where I was at Marshalls.
I was at the mall.
I was at Target.
I was probably at pavilions.
I mean, I was all over.
And I didn't notice until the next day when Brock drove my car, I get in on the passenger
side.
And I'm like, what the F?
My car got sideswiped when it was parked.
I don't know where.
But of course, it's not just on one panel.
It's on all three.
So it starts on the passenger door, the back door, and then the back panel.
So I'm going to need to get my car rewrapped.
It's got a dent.
It just, it was just one of those.
Like, are you kidding me moments?
You know, where it was just one thing after another.
And then everything with Salem.
So obviously you guys have all seen and sent love and asked questions about Salem.
So I wanted to address that and give you an update because that was definitely the most stressful of everything.
The car, the dishwasher, the window, whatever.
Those are all material things that I can get fixed.
And I'm blessed to be able to have a credit card to put them on.
But with Salem, as much as I don't care how much this cat costs me, I will do whatever I can to save his life.
As long as his quality of life is still good and he has years ahead of him, then I'll do whatever I have to do.
But it has taken an emotional toll on our family.
Brock and I, you know, it's just like, I need to do the medicine and then he's helping with it and it's frustrating because it's a cat.
anyone who has a cat that you have to give oral medication to right now four different medications,
one of them three times a day. It is not easy. It's not easy at all. And I have a beautiful,
amazing, empathetic daughter who wants to help. And when she sees that I'm a little anxious and
scared, then she feels anxious and scared. So it's trying to keep all of my emotions in. So I'm not
projecting that onto her. And of course, she caught me crying yesterday. I thought I was safe. We
We have our nanny teacher there with her and her little bestie Lila.
They're downstairs.
I think I have a moment where I can just cry in my bathroom.
Oh, no.
The girls come up and they're like, Mommy, why are you crying?
And I'm just like, you cry every day.
Why can't I have a moment where I cry?
And I just said, you know, oh, I'm just scared for Salem, but, or I'm sad for Salem.
I didn't want to say scared because I don't want her to be scared.
But I said, I'm just sad that he needs, you know, all of these medications and whatnot.
And so.
It started out as kidney stones. Kidney stone got lodged in his urethra. They did one surgery.
Then he comes home for two days. He's not going to the bathroom at all. So I know there's still a blockage.
We take him back to the vet. They now have to do a P.U. Surgery can't even tell you what that stands for.
But that surgery essentially turns him into a female cat because they have to cut off his little peepee and make a wider area for him.
to pass future kidney stones.
So he's now had two surgeries in less than a week.
It's cost me an arm and a leg, but I don't even care about that because I'm like, look,
if you're saying that he has this surgery, this can give him several more years than do the
surgery.
But on top of the surgery and the medication, he now needs what is essentially cat dialysis
three times a week, where we have to give him fluids through a need.
and we have to start that at home tomorrow.
We did it at the vet yesterday.
Brock is such a fucking rock star.
He's like, I will handle the dialysis.
I can read a book and sit with him while I'm doing it.
But this is for life.
So that has been stressful.
You know, that's life sometimes.
There are beautiful moments.
There is absolute chaos.
I saw Wicked for good three times.
It's now available on, I think, Prime and Apple TVs.
We've watched it at home again.
The songs are in my head constantly.
But that was pretty much our Christmas break.
So I feel like right now all I can do is laugh.
Be grateful.
Everyone is still here.
Everything's going to be okay.
Just keep it moving.
So, yeah, that sums up our holiday break.
There are so many questions.
I'm going to try and get through.
I'm going to take a quick break.
Hydrate my vocal cords because these solo ones
are, even if it's a short answer, it's a long-winded podcast because I'm just talking to myself.
So I'll be right back.
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What is your favorite season of VPR and why?
Favorite?
Oof.
I'm going to just say,
season one was my favorite.
I didn't know what I was doing.
And that was the only season where I wasn't in my head.
I didn't think about what people on the internet were going to say
because Instagram was barely a thing.
It just wasn't,
it wasn't what it became in the last.
later season. So we'll just go with the first season was my favorite season because it was in a way
the easiest. Are you friends with Dana, Charlie, Danica, Brett, and Max from season eight of
VPR? Not all, Dana and I keep in touch. Max and I keep in touch. We still follow each other.
So I would say closest with them. But Brett, I just want to give congratulations to him and Carly
Bible are back together. They're engaged and I am so happy for them.
I talk about this in my book, actually, where him and I were having a conversation,
season eight, outside, the worst editing you've ever seen.
And it was two different conversations happening at once.
One, where him and I are talking about how we're just friends and it's not going to be
anything more.
And another part of the conversation where I was literally talking about Carly and was
just saying how I wished it worked out with them and that he just seemed like such a catch
and she seems so amazing.
We've followed each other on social media for probably about a decade.
I've texted with her, DM'd her.
We've actually never met in person, but I feel like we've been friends forever.
So when he was in L.A., I was just like, dude, what are you doing?
Like, you have this amazing woman back home.
Like, go to her.
And I'm so glad that he did.
And I just, I love following her and watching their love story.
It's just, it's amazing.
You know, she obviously I think things didn't work out because this beautiful baby boy that she has needed to come into the world.
And now they found their way back to each other.
So, congrats to them.
Okay, back to your questions.
Are you watching season 10 and you're so cringe in it?
How do you feel about it three years later?
Well, if you thought season 10 was cringe, you'd probably want to skip seasons four through nine.
Yeah, just all of them and maybe even 11.
Because, you know, I think that I am cringe sometimes.
That's just part of my personality, but you don't see everything on the show, which is why I wrote a book.
But yeah, I watch it and I'm like, Oof, Sheena.
Yeah, no.
So I get it.
Yeah.
But also, you need polarizing people on reality TV.
You need a little cringe.
You need the drum.
You need all of the things.
So I think I was a great contribution to my time on reality television with some cringe moments
because you may talk shit about them, but they entertained you.
And you're talking about them.
So I think I did something right.
Are you watching the VPR reboot?
No, I haven't had a chance.
I barely was able to finally watch Secret Lives of Mormon Wives over Christmas break.
That was what 11 episodes.
I'm behind on Beverly Hills Housewives.
Is Salt Lake City still on?
I'm behind on that too.
Oh my gosh.
I'm so behind on the shows that I have invested in for years that I don't know if I will
because that's just not top of my radar.
I feel like by the time I catch up on Beverly Hills and Salt Lake, like next gen or
Southern hospitality is going to be back on or like a scripted show.
Palm Royale obsessed.
That is my favorite show right now.
totally caught up on that. But I don't know. I think also with VPR, like, it would feel weird
to watch it. I am happy for Natalie and Demi. I have known Demi for years. I really hope that
this show just brings opportunities for them and I'm so happy for them. But I just, yeah,
I don't know if I'm going to watch it yet. What is the most challenging part of having your
life being filmed? I guess being vulnerable, trusting someone.
else with telling my story and, you know, just not always having the full story out there.
That is challenging.
And that's why I felt the need to write a memoir because I'm like, there is more to the story.
And here it is.
Will you legally change your last name to Davies?
You guys, I don't know how many times I have addressed this.
Like, aren't you tired of me addressing this over and over and over again?
Or I feel like the people asking these questions don't actually listen to the answer.
As of today, no, I will not be changing my name legally to Davies.
With school and everything, we are the Davies family.
But legally, and who is the New York Times bestseller is Sheena Shea.
So for work and legal purposes, I'm just going to keep it Shea because it's just easier.
All right, what are you manifesting for 2026?
Whoof, wouldn't you like to know?
I am manifesting so many things in my career that I cannot wait for them to just come to fruition
because I have some really exciting things in the pipeline that I'm working on and I'm
just manifesting for that to happen at the time it is supposed to happen and I'm just trying
to trust timing. If you guys follow me on Instagram, you have probably seen as Ali calls it.
I'm in my healing era.
I've been following so many accounts that are just positive and it's not just affirmations,
but it really has put me in a good headspace.
It has helped me just heal and become the version of myself that I am now.
I'm better with boundaries.
I'm better at putting myself first when I need to.
I think I'm better about my people pleasing.
And if you see my repost, you will understand where I'm.
that in my life right now. So any resolutions I have are just to keep being on a positive
trajectory and to try my hardest to not let the negative things affect me because I am so
blessed. I am so grateful and I'm so excited for a new year. Even though I had a very,
very expensive rocky start to it, it's all going to work out. And I'm,
truly just trying to trust timing. And that's one thing that I feel like I have been frustrated
about in the past, you know, where it's like, what about me? And I'm trying not to do that anymore.
Where it's like, well, I didn't get this and that, you know, should have been mine. And now I'm like,
you know what? No, it wasn't the right time for me. And I've done a lot of work. I think those who
follow me, have been able to see that. I even saw there was a question in here. I'm sure I'll get to it,
but someone just noticing that I've been happier lately. And I think that's because I've been
setting healthy boundaries and I've been doing the work. And it's not always easy, but I feel like
I have a solid group of friends. I've got a great group of moms. And I have an amazing husband
who drives me crazy at times, but he's putting in the work to,
be there for me, to be there for our daughter, and to now be there for our cat. And I am so grateful
for that. How are you finding your friendships and relationships improve as you improve yourself?
Okay, so kind of along what I was just saying. So I am going to have my two girls on soon,
who I've been spending the most time with. And that's Maddie and Christy. So Maddie I've known for
years. I actually met her through Janet. They know each other since like they were teenagers back.
in Ohio. And Christine and I've been friends for a few years now. But this past year,
stepping away from the show, I got so much closer with them. We took a trip to New York and we
really, really bonded. We all have the same attachment style. We all have just similar goals and
interests in life. And they're very positive lights in my life. And I feel like having a solid
support system of friends and also a great tree, not even just a trio, I've got a whole group of
mom friends who I've met through my daughter's preschool. That has really helped me be in this
positive space. I think that I'm in right now because you really are who you surround yourself
with. And I'm choosing to surround myself with women who build me up and make me feel good
about myself, not people. I feel like I have to walk on eggshell.
around. I get yelled at by. I just, I needed to make a change in my life. And I did that. You know,
I walked away from what I've known as an adult in my career with reality TV. That's what I've done
since I was 26 years old. And taking a step back from that last year gave me time to focus on myself,
my relationship, build healthier friendships with girls I've known for years, but get a lot closer with.
I know there are questions in here about the girls from the Valley. Yeah, are you not as close with
Britney and Janet anymore? I still am good friends with all of them. I talked to Britney the other day.
I talked to Janet yesterday. I'm seeing Michelle on Thursday for dinner. Jasmine and I hang out.
Zach, Kristen, I just talked to. So they are still all of my friends. Mia, I just went to a Chargers game with
Danny. They're all very much in my life. And TBD, what happens with the future of the Valley and
myself, but I just needed to step away for me. And I think that time away from doing the show
is very healing for me. But you never know what the future holds. How do you manage balancing all
of your friends with your busy schedule? Okay, not going to lie, that has always been very challenging
for me because I've always felt a responsibility to keep up with everyone to check in, to be available,
to make sure no one feels forgotten to just be there for so many people because I have so many close friends.
I am so, so blessed in my friendships from childhood friendships to my girls from high school,
to my friends that I've made as an adult.
And it's hard because it's like when you're that busy,
it can just start to feel overwhelming really quickly.
But what I'm learning now is that balance doesn't mean giving equal energy to everyone.
I think it means giving intentional energy to the people who are also showing up for you.
And that's the thing.
And that's why I do want to have Maddie and Christy on soon.
So you guys understand who the two positive lights have been in my life,
especially over the last six months,
because I'm really trying to focus less on managing relationships out of obligation.
And I'm trying to focus more on nurturing the ones that,
feel mutual and supportive and grounded.
And I guess Allie's right.
You know, I'm just in my, in my healing era.
And I love it.
I'm here for it, obviously.
I think, too, that I've also had to get more honest with myself about my capacity.
And it's like, just because I care about someone, it doesn't mean I can realistically
show up for them in every season.
And that's okay. I've taken pressure off myself by, you know, when I'm at home, I, for the last
several weeks, I have my phone on Do Not Disturb. I still have the ringer on so the very few people
in my favorites can call if there's an emergency or I need to hear something. But I'm like,
I want to be more present when I'm with my daughter. I don't need to be on my phone checking
in with everyone at every moment. If I don't get back to you for a couple days and you get upset about that,
then, you know, you just don't understand me. But that's the thing is when I've been responding
late to people, no one's upset. And those are the people I need in my life. People who understand
that I need to prioritize myself and my family and I'm not going to be available for everyone at the drop
of a hat. And I think at this stage in my life, I'm choosing to protect my time and my energy a lot more.
I've finally learned what boundaries are. I had no boundaries before. I felt like, you know,
I was a people pleaser. I got walked all over. And it's something that I've really done the work on.
And I'm very proud of myself. And it doesn't mean I value people any less. It just means I'm being
more mindful where I invest. And I'm making sure those relationships feel reciprocal more than draining.
And yeah, I'm just trying to focus on all of that. Do you miss any of your former friendships, any you hope to rekindle?
some for sure not all i'll say that oh here it is i knew i saw this earlier you seem much happier
lately what's the secret i honestly think it's been about setting boundaries and really embracing
the let them theory i don't know if i've talked about my tattoo on the podcast yet but it is right
here it is the place i see the most and i cannot wait one of the things i am manifesting for 2026 is
Mel Robbins sitting right here and me shaking her hand, although I want to hug her,
but like, I can't wait to shake her hand.
And for her to see my tattoo.
So we are manifesting that.
We are putting that out into the universe because it has been life-changing, genuinely listening
to that audio book.
My mom listened to the audio book.
I got my friends on it.
And it's just, it's been incredible.
And it's really helped me in my friendships when I see a couple of my friends are hanging
out without me and they didn't invite me.
and I'm just like, you know what?
Let them.
I'm going to let them have their lunch at wherever that I wasn't invited to.
And I'm not going to let it bother me because I can only control how I respond.
And I, what is it going to do if I'm like, why didn't you invite me?
Like, what is that going to do?
You know, they didn't invite me for whatever reason.
And that's okay.
I'm going to let them.
So that has been something that instead of me trying to control outcomes or manage reactions,
I've learned to just let people show me who they are and meet me where they're capable.
I feel like also with the let them mindset, it's been very freeing for me.
Like if people are going to misunderstand me, let them.
If they're going to make assumptions about me, let them.
And it's not my job to over explain and just like to feel accepted.
You know, I feel like especially with my OCD,
I tend to over explain. It is one of the things that I'm getting better about because I don't need to do that.
And I'm realizing that more now. And I think what's also what's shifted for me is realizing that
peace comes from honoring my own needs. It's something that I didn't do for almost my whole life. And
it's not constantly adjusting myself to fit into someone else's expectations. You know, when you
stop over extending and start protecting your energy, happiness just becomes a lot more
sustainable and a lot more real. And that is the era of life that I am in. Next thing someone wrote in,
one of my resolutions is to curtail my friend's circle. As you've gone through that lately,
what advice do you have? That's a very good question. I've learned that your people,
they're the ones who show up for you when you're winning and when you're losing.
They're not just there for the good times and all of that.
You know, it's easy to have a lot of people around when things are good,
when life looks fun, exciting, it's glamorous, you know, all of the things.
But the real clarity comes from those who are there for you during the harder seasons.
And for me, curtailing my friend circle, I mean, it wasn't about cutting people out
out of anger or drama or the things that you guys probably think or rumors that are online or whatever.
It's just been about paying attention to how I feel after interactions.
It's, you know, questioning, did I feel supported?
Or, you know, did I feel drained or judged or like I had to perform?
And I've also realized that not everyone who's been in your life for a long time is meant to
stay forever. You know, that doesn't make them bad people, but there is that saying that people
come into your life for a reason, a season, a lifetime, and the song from Wicked for good,
the song for good, that song has been in my head just on repeat when she starts out the song.
It's like they say, you know, that people are in your life to teach you a lesson for a reason
and all of that. And I've really embraced that.
and understood that.
And sometimes people are meant to be in your life, you know, just for a chapter,
not the whole book.
And letting go doesn't always require a big conversation.
You know, sometimes it's just about creating space and just letting relationships
naturally shift.
I think as I've gotten older, because as we know, 40, turning 41 this year,
I just really value depth over.
access and I don't need a huge circle. I need a few people who I can fully trust to celebrate my
wins without jealousy and just sit with me with my losses without judgment. You know,
I think my advice to go back to your question, sorry I said I would be long-winded with some
of these, but I think my advice would be to choose quality over quantity and to trust that it is
okay to protect your peace.
Okay, the smaller your circle gets, the cleaner it becomes who truly belongs in it.
And that's something that I have realized recently.
And yeah, it's just, it's been a lot of things that have been life changing in the last six
months.
I will say that.
I am going to take a break for some water and we'll be back with more questions.
You guys have obviously heard me talk about my OCD on this podcast so much.
maybe even in this episode, to be honest, because OCD is a serious and highly misunderstood condition
that causes people to get stuck in a cycle of stressful, unwanted thoughts and repetitive behaviors.
And this can become debilitating. I have suffered with this my whole life, but I didn't know
until I was diagnosed three and a half years ago that this is actually what I had.
my postpartum OCD.
I knew there was something wrong,
but I didn't know what it was.
So many things are often misdiagnosed,
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All right.
Back to your questions.
What are new things you're doing for your mental health?
Boundaries, literally.
Boundaries and sticking with, well, the new thing is boundaries,
but sticking with therapy and EMDR on my medication, all of that.
Yeah, boundaries has been a new thing for me that I don't think I've ever had in my life.
And it's amazing once you step into that version of yourself.
And I am glad to see that you guys are noticing that just from whatever I've been posting recently
because I don't feel like I've posted a lot.
I think maybe it's just apparent in my story.
I do want to start to find a way to show what this part of my life on social media more.
I haven't figured out how to do that yet.
You know, Brock found his niche with Brock the builder and the stuff he does with summer.
And I'm still kind of trying to figure out my lane because I want to show you guys more of who I am through that.
But I might need some help.
So anyway, back to the questions.
What do you do on days where your OCD feels heightened?
That's a great question.
And as always, I want to point out that the IOCDF, the International OCD Foundation,
it's a great guide for resources, tips, and professionals to speak to.
I try to just, whenever I am having a day where I'm in a spiral, I talk to the girls about it.
And they, I mean, literally, like, I've never been surrounded by such positive women in my life.
It's crazy because it's like, I will vent and I'm kind of on a spiral.
and then they bring me back.
And that has really helped my OCD spirals lately.
How do you deal with the nasty internet trolls?
You know what?
I let them say whatever the fuck they want to say
and I don't let it get to me
because like I said earlier,
I can only control my response and my reaction
and I'm not going to let people say nasty things about me get to me.
I know who I am.
And that's all that matters at the end of the day.
Why do you think you are polarizing amongst fans?
Well, I think it comes down to first impressions.
Okay, the audience's first introduction to me was the other woman, you know, the homewrecking
whore.
And that's obviously going to be polarizing.
How we're introduced to someone, I think, really sticks.
Labels, unfortunately, really stick.
And it gets baked into people.
's memories. People are always going to see me as that no matter what. And that's why nearly,
oh my God, you guys, two decades later, it's like I still get DMs and comments about the eddy of it
all. I was 21 when I met him. I'm about to be 41 in May. Just like, let that sit in, okay? So 20 years ago,
almost, I was in this situation that I'm now just wearing a scarlet letter forever. And that was
the dedication in my book that I put to all of you guys, you know,
know who have had to wear that because I've had to carry that and I will for the rest of my life.
Unfortunately, some people are able to see past it, but a lot of people are just always going to
keep me in that box. And I also think that there were times when the audience struggled to
relate to me on the show. And honestly, looking back, I totally understand why. I really do.
When you're on a reality show for so long, you can start operating from a place of fear.
And it's fear that, you know, the cameras will stop rolling or fear of becoming irrelevant,
a lot of different fears, but that affects how you show up.
And taking time away from reality TV, that has been incredibly valuable for me.
It was something I needed to do so bad that I didn't need, I didn't know I needed it as much
as I did.
Because as we know, reality TV pays quite well.
And I walked away from that for my mental health, for myself and for, we'll see, TBD of what's to come.
But I don't want to say I'll never go back to reality TV because I love doing reality TV.
I just think I needed a break because for years, I was terrified of the day cameras would go down.
I'm like, one day, this is going to end.
It's all going to go away.
And so I did everything to make sure that cameras stayed up.
I just felt like I needed to perform.
I needed to keep this job.
I needed to do this for my family, for my bills, for whatever I needed.
And when you're coming from that mindset, you're not always showing up as the most grounded
or authentic version of yourself.
And I actually, I'll say this, I recognize that this season watching Tamara on Real Housewives
of Orange County, I see that behavior like so clearly now.
you know, when someone feels like they're fighting for their life on reality TV, I get it.
I've been there. And the truth is, it doesn't bring out the best version of yourself.
It's not the most authentic version. It's just, I saw it so much as I'm watching the show this season.
And I think that what I've learned is authenticity, it matters more than likability.
for so many years, I just, I wanted to be liked.
I wanted everyone to like me that maybe put me in this pick me mentality,
but the audience doesn't have to like you.
Everyone doesn't have to like me.
I finally realized that.
Like that shouldn't even be the goal, but it was my goal for so long.
I just wanted everyone to like me.
And that affected my actions because I'm like, well, maybe if I do this, then they'll
like me.
And if I say this, then they'll like me.
And it's like, who fucking cares.
People don't like me.
They don't like me.
Get over it.
Let them, you know?
but people do need to be able to relate to you.
And if you're not being true to yourself, they can't.
You're a flip-flopper.
You can't make decisions.
And I do.
I see all of these things.
And when I eventually put my EP out, hopefully in the spring,
a lot of my lyrics are the self-realization of who I was and who I am now
and things people have said about me.
And I don't give a fuck if y'all don't think I can sing.
I don't really think I can sing.
But you know what?
There's Melodyneine.
there's auto tune and there's some good producers out there.
And I'm going to continue doing music and I'm going to keep putting it out.
So listen to it.
Don't.
I don't care because the words behind the songs that I've written actually mean something to me.
And it's really helped me have an outlet to just put all of this into.
So, you know, if I do, I don't want to say if when I do return to reality TV because I know I will.
I think people would see a very different, Sheena.
I think if I did the Valley season three where I was at in my life in August,
I don't think you would have seen the best version of me.
I think I would have come in with a lot of anger.
And that would have done me no favors.
And I recognize that.
I knew I needed to do some work.
I would be doing it for the check.
And I needed to do it for myself and do what was best for our family.
and I think the time away has given me perspective.
It's given me confidence and a much stronger sense of who I am without the cameras
driving my decisions and putting me in situations that maybe I'm not ready to be in.
Maybe I don't want to have that conversation.
Maybe I just don't want this person in my life right now.
Maybe I just want some peace.
And that's okay.
And that's given me so much clarity.
So,
next question. When will we be seeing you back on our screens? I don't know. Honestly, I don't know,
but what I can say is that I'm working on something I am genuinely so excited about. That's why I'm
just keeping it very close to me for now. And when it does come out, it would be a return to screens
in a very different capacity than what people are used to seeing from me. And that's all I'm
to leave you with for now, but I'm going to be back on your TVs. When? I don't know, but I will be.
All right. More fun questions. How did your elf on the shelf journey go? Well, let me tell you,
it's not over. We're at what day, what day is it? January 5th, 6th, I don't even know. The elf
will be returning because my daughter, I don't know if I've talked about this on the podcast yet,
but she asked Santa for a talking Bonnie doll.
Bonnie from Toy Story, the little girl.
A talking Bonnie doll.
Does this doll exist?
Not really.
There was a small batch of them made in like Japan in 2003.
You can only find them on eBay and they ship not in America.
I don't know where the fuck this thing is coming from.
It has not arrived yet.
And summer is expecting it by Friday because that's what my tracking says.
And I'm like, look, I talk to Santa.
Sorry, the elves.
It was, let me back up, okay?
I had Santa, aka my friend, who has a very good, deep voice.
I had him send Summer a little message, which you can see on the vlog, where he said that the elves were being naughty and they hadn't finished the doll in time.
Because when I told Summer, I go, well, honey, I don't know if they really like make that doll anymore.
She goes, Mommy, of course they do.
It's Santa.
He makes everything.
What am I going to say to that?
Am I going to kill the magic of Christmas?
No, I'm going to find the fucking Bonnie doll.
The first one I found you guys was like $900.
The next one I found, $2,200.
I'm all about giving my kid what she wants for Christmas
and keeping the magic alive, but not at that expense.
I found one for $250.
And yes, I spent that.
It's the only thing she asked for.
So the elf will be returning with this Bonnie doll.
hopefully by Friday. By the time you guys are listening to this, I really hope that Bonnie has arrived.
So that's my Elv on the Shelf journey. Not over. Got to give the kid the one thing she asked for if it does exist.
I remember you saying you didn't always want kids. What made you change your mind?
Honestly, when I just surprisingly got pregnant in the pandemic and then had a miscarriage, I just never realized how much I wanted a baby.
until I had one growing inside of me and then I didn't and then that was just all I wanted.
So I froze my eggs twice when I was single, 32, 33 because I didn't know if I was going to
find my person. I didn't know if naturally I'd be able to have kids and I always wanted that
option. But I, yeah, in that moment, I just, I knew I wanted to be a mom more than anything.
Would you adopt kids? If yes, were you always open to it or is this
knew since you can't have another pregnancy. I've actually always been open to it. I remember my first
boyfriend in high school. I told him I wanted to adopt. And he had an adopted sister who was like a
second cousin and she just ended up being raised by his parents. And he was very against it because he just
saw how hard it was for her. But it was always something I thought about and talked about. And it's
something that Brock and I have both talked about. He does want one more biological child between
the two of us. So maybe we do a surrogate when and if the timing feels right. It doesn't feel
right yet. But I would absolutely be open to adoption as well because there are so many kids.
They're babies, kids in the foster care system who need a home. And I would love to be able to
give them one. Why did you get induced to not give birth on VPR? Okay, well, you guys have to
know that this was also still kind of COVID times. And giving birth on VPR,
was never going to happen. They were barely allowed my family, immediate family, in the hospital
room with me. There were not going to be cameras in the delivery room. You know, this wasn't Courtney
Kardashian 10 years ago delivering her own baby on camera. That wasn't going to happen. So my doctor felt
like with my anxiety and with the job that I had at the time that it was best to let her go 40 weeks
if she didn't come out by her due date. She's been baking in there long enough that we,
could induce. And he wanted to give me time to be a mom without cameras and just to have that
week of peace. It obviously turned into me getting hospitalized for five days, only having a couple
days of peace, which wasn't really peace. It was lactation consultants and all of this stuff at the
house before we started filming. But I am so thankful that I got induced because had they not been
monitoring me from the very, very beginning of labor, they might not have caught the preeclampsia.
I could have had a stroke.
I could have died.
I am so thankful.
I got induced.
And I think that that was just the path to making sure, you know, the universe's path to making
sure that Summer Moon came into this world alive and okay.
And that first minute, I didn't think she was okay.
She didn't make a sound.
She was blue in the face.
It was terrifying.
But I think me getting induced potentially saved both of our lives.
So I'm really glad that my doctor had the reasoning of wanting to give me peace for a week.
And it turned out that maybe it saved our lives.
Will Summer play T-ball?
If so, will you coach?
Wait, I never thought about me coaching because I just think that Brock is going to be the coach when Summer gets into sports.
But he's definitely not the baseball guy.
she will play t-ball i'm not in a rush to get her in it i was going to do the fall ball but then i realized
that the league we signed her up for was on sundays in the fall and we all know i have season tickets to
the chargers i'm not about to miss my kids games to go to football games but i also wasn't
about to miss football games this season because i mean we're the best we've been in a really long time
and she's only four she's got the rest of her life to play sports i'm like look she loves going to
football games. We're not going to do that just yet. TBD if we do spring ball, but she will absolutely
be playing t-ball. We're going to figure it out. And that's the thing. We're busy parents. We have a
big social life and a lot of things we like to do, but she comes first. And this year, once she
starts kindergarten and all the things, we're going to have to adjust our life and schedules. And
if that means I don't go to as many charger games, then that just means I'm selling tickets and more money in
our pocket. Whatever happened to your missing uncle, I think you guys mean my mom's cousin who had gone
missing a few years ago, or it could have been my uncle who was murdered on New Year's Day, which was like
20 years ago. That case is still cold on the former on my mom's cousin. He was found, but for my uncle,
I mean, I would love to get closure for my family on that one day. I did have a message from Tyler Henry
when I did Hollywood Medium.
This part didn't air on the show.
But he said that, yes, he was killed by one blow to the chest.
They said that that was what took him out.
But that the person who he got in this fight with,
it wasn't like they intended to kill him.
They didn't do it on purpose.
They didn't know that he didn't make it after that fight.
And that this person has lived with extreme.
regret and guilt. And we may never know who that person is. But even just having that message
gave us, I guess, a little bit of peace. But yeah, my family has really been through it with
loss. And it was just the anniversary of that. Rest in peace, Uncle Marty.
Okay. A few more questions. And then we're going to wrap it up. You mentioned a bald spot on
your head. Where is it from? So yes, I do have a ball.
spot right here. When I was pregnant, I had a mole that had some abnormal pre-cancerous cells in it
that they needed to remove. Because I was pregnant, all of my, everything was just going to summer
and my body wasn't really healing myself where I needed it to. So this turned into having to get it
cut out again and I had to go to a plastic surgeon. It was, it was a whole thing. And the hair on that
part just never really grew back. But I always do. You know, and Teddy Mellon Camp is one of the
people who, you know, obviously promotes getting your skin checked. And I'm very vigilant about
that. I go every six months. And, you know, I'm thankful that I only have a bald spot and that that
didn't turn into something more. Because especially on your scalp. It's a little.
It's like you don't really see those type of moles, but I felt something.
I knew it was growing.
It wasn't always there.
And I was right.
It needed to be removed.
Any fun upcoming travel?
There's a lot of things we want to do.
Nothing is booked and set in stone.
We want to get back to New Zealand and Australia.
I want to go to Hawaii.
We want to go to Korea.
I want to go to Tokyo.
I want to go to so many places right now.
But for now, especially while Salem is really.
recovering. We are going to stay put and future travel. You guys will see it because I hope you all
follow me. If not, I'll be talking about it on here. Any advice for someone wanting to move to L.A.
from out of state for the first time? I'm born and raised here, so I don't know if I'm the best
person to ask that. I was only, yeah, I was only not here for the six months when I was in
Vegas doing that show that you guys never saw on the show. I haven't been in your shoes, but I would
say a few pieces of advice. L.A. is essentially several little neighborhoods and communities all
smush together. So it's like you can easily get stuck in the bubble of wherever you live. I've lived
in a lot of bubbles. I lived in the Hollywood bubble for a few years. The West Hollywood,
kind of Miracle Mile bubble, the west side bubble. Now I'm in the Valley bubble. I was in San Diego
for a minute too in Palm Springs. But try to explore the various areas of L.A.
or whatever city you're moving to as much as possible in your free time,
because there are just so many different places, especially here.
Like, I loved the West Side.
West Side's not for everyone.
It's a further drive.
It's a lot of traffic.
But for me, the piece of living on the water and by the water,
it was worth every moment of traffic.
So also, probably if you're moving somewhere new,
I would live somewhere with an easy commute to work.
I did not have that when I was on the West Side.
side, but it was worth it for me. You know, it's like if you're working in Burbank, you're probably
not going to want to live in the South Bay, but you're going to be spending a lot of time in your car.
So, probably wouldn't be the best experience for you if you're in a new city. But if you find your place
that you love, then sometimes when you're in the car, it's worth it. You put on a good audio book,
The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins. It's a great one. That I actually, as someone who lives in the
valley, I work out in the South Bay. I drive to Redondo twice a week for my trainer, because
because she is incredible.
And that's when I listen to my audio book.
And it's productive time for me in the car.
And I have a lease, so I don't mind putting the miles on it.
Who is your favorite player on the Chargers and predictions for the playoffs?
Ooh, I'm going to say my favorite is Dicker, the kicker, because he is so consistent and so
amazing.
I was shocked a couple games ago when he missed those kicks.
But he is incredible.
Brock and I actually got to meet him at an event.
they became friends.
Now they follow each other and they DM.
And I love it because my new seats that I've had for the last two years are right on the 30-yard line,
right by where he warms up, right by the injury tent.
There's so much action right there.
But we got to watch my favorite player right in front of us every week.
Have you watched Heated Rivalry?
Have you read Carl's book?
Okay.
I have so much to catch up on you guys.
Ali literally asked me this.
I think it was last night or the night before.
She's like, have you finished watching Heated Rivalry yet?
And I'm like, first of all, I haven't even heard of that show.
So, no, I haven't watched it.
She said it's a gay hockey show.
Okay, sounds very interesting.
I have not watched it yet.
I'm going to have to add that to the list.
But that's the thing.
That's what's like, it's so hard to watch new shows because I can't catch up on the ones
that I'm currently watching.
And Carl's book, no, I have not read it yet.
I'm just going to add that to the list as well.
But I'll probably do the audio version.
but I need to finish Macy's book first
because I've already started that one.
I'm on the Mel Robbins 5 second rule.
I started like four books at the same time
and it just depends on what my mood is.
Which one do I want to listen to today?
But finally caught up on Palm Royale and y'all
if you have not watched it.
I had to watch this last episode twice
because I was like, hold on, hold on.
So like this is the mom and this.
It's crazy, but it just keeps you on your feet.
Like it's, it's so fucking good.
I can't express that enough.
Okay.
Anyway, last question.
I tried salty horse yesterday and it was so good.
What should I order next time?
I'm so excited to hear that.
Okay, so for those of you who don't know, a salty horse is a cafe in Costa Mesa that my sister and I invested in her boyfriend, Justice, who I just say my brother-in-law.
He's been in the family for almost 10 years.
That's my brother.
So he has three in Vegas called Better Days.
If you are in Vegas, especially in the Summerlin area, there are three of them.
Incredible.
Literally the best food, machas, assay, bowls, coffee.
Like, I'm not lying.
It is so good.
And honestly, it just depends what you like because everything I've had on the menu is incredible.
At Salty Horse, we are adding different machas, some seasonal ones and stuff.
So you really can't go wrong with anything on that.
menu. I haven't even had a chance to try it all yet because it is a bit of a drive, but that's
what I love about working out in the South Bay is I can just, you know, after that, go have lunch at
Salty Horse and it's only like a 35, 40 minute drive. It's hell getting back. But again,
that's when I listened to my audiobooks. So, yeah, check it out. If you are in Costa Mesa,
it is amazing. Macy, Mormon Wives Macy, she just went. I saw her and her husband at the Chargers
game last week. And, you know, she's from Orange County. So she just brought her whole family in.
My mom said their plates were completely empty. She texted me after and was like, oh, my God,
everything was incredible. And it's just, it's really good. It's all clean. We don't use any of the
bad seed oils or anything like that. It's just good, fresh, clean ingredients. And it's fucking
amazing. So check it out. It's worth the drive also. If you're not an OC.
Okay, wrapping it up because I got to get home to my kitty. Jack's hole.
the person who hit my car. Yeah, I mean, not cool. Like, how the fuck do you side swipe a car? You don't
leave a note. It just, and now I have to get it fixed. I have to get three panels rewrapped and the
dent. It's just, it's a whole thing. Flowers of the week I'm going to give to my girls,
Maddie and Christy, because they have just been such a light in my life. I'm going to have them
on for an episode soon. Just a fun girl talk, hot topic sort of episode. I will post for
questions and topics that you want to hear the three of us talk about. And I,
I just want to talk about the last six months and how we got so close and how we're just
really being positive lights in each other's lives because that is, I didn't know how
badly I needed that positive female friendship in my life because I felt like I had it with
so many people. And I didn't realize that there was just something missing until we started
to get closer. And it's been amazing. So thank you all for listening. We are going to
to be changing up some stuff on shenanigans this year. I would love to hear your opinions. If you're
watching on YouTube, please comment below on how you think we might evolve the show or how we should
evolve the show. What do you want more of? What do you want less of? Send your feedback in constructive
criticism. I love the troll comments. They don't do much for me, but I got to say,
sometimes when I hear the things that the haters say, I can see their perspective. And I'm not
saying go and leave mean comments, but I can see sometimes where people are coming from,
and it does help me grow, and it helps me become the best version of myself. So send in your
feedback. If you haven't gotten a copy already of the New York Times bestselling book, My Goodside,
it's a great audio book to listen to when you're in traffic. Check it out. You can get that at my
goodsidebook.com. I will be back next week, maybe with the girls. I don't know, haven't figured out
schedules yet, but I'm just excited to be back. It's a new year. I don't necessarily,
a new year, new me, but like, kind of. So I'm excited. I'm very excited for 2026. It was a very
rocky start, but it's only up from here. Thank you guys for listening. I'll see you next week.
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