Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - SCHEANA SPILLS: Why I Still Have My Ex-Husband’s Last Name…

Episode Date: January 31, 2025

This week, Scheana is in the studio solo and answering all of your juicy questions! Why does she still use her ex-husband’s name, and how does Shay feel about her new book? Does she think a...nyone will be upset about how they are portrayed in the book, and how does Scheana think her VPR co-stars will react? What would she do differently on VPR if she could go back in time? And what did she think about Kristen’s recent comments on the “Hot Mic” podcast? Plus, what acting roles might people be surprised to learn Scheana was up for back in the day? Tune in to find out! Follow us: @scheana @scheananigans  BUY MY BOOK!!!MY GOOD SIDE is available for Pre-Order now at www.mygoodsidebook.com The video version of this episode will be available on Scheana’s YouTube page on Friday, January 31st.Episode Sponsors:Get started at FactorMeals.com/goodasgold50off and use code goodasgold50off to get 50% off your first box plus free shipping.Stay focused on what’s important to you with Noom’s psychology and biology based approach. Sign up for your trial today at Noom.comProduced by Dear MediaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The following podcast is a Dear Media production. From Vanderpump rules to motherhood and everywhere in between. Warm up the kettle, it's time to spill some tea. Let's get into some shenanigans with Sheena Shay. Because we're good as gold. Because we're good as gold. Because we're good as gold. Because we're good as gold. Because we're good as gold.
Starting point is 00:00:41 Hello everyone and welcome back to shenanigans. I'm here solo in the studio this week and just feeling all of the love that you guys have given me just by pre-ordering the book, commenting about the book. It's been a really great weekend. So just wanted to say thank you for that. Writing this book and just putting it all out there has definitely been scary at times. The book isn't even out yet and I'm terrified but also very excited and very proud of everything I did. So I can't wait to share it with you this summer. If you have not pre-ordered it
Starting point is 00:01:19 yet, you can go to my good side book.com, get your order in. There are signed copies on Barnes and Noble, a limited amount of them, also on Premiere. So check that out. So many questions were sent in, mostly about the book. So I wanna just dive right in. What's your book about? Well, it is a memoir. So it is about my entire life.
Starting point is 00:01:44 You're gonna get childhood Sheena, high school Sheena, college, Hollywood. You find out more about my family. You get some BTS VPR. I really do spill it all, which is terrifying. But I felt like if I'm going to write a book, I've always prided myself on being an open book myself. So nothing was off the table with this book. When did you start writing the book and how long did it take you to write it? So I began writing the proposal and mapping out the book last spring, almost a year ago. Met with editors this summer
Starting point is 00:02:27 and then began the writing process end of summer and fall was just like full-time. We didn't have that much time because we had a deadline. So it went really quick, turned in the manuscript this this month and now yeah, it's done. It is out there. I finished it and excited, but also a little scared. Can you share what the writing process was like for you and what was the hardest thing about writing your book? I think revisiting old memories that I had compartmentalized was definitely a challenge. There were things where I'm like, I forgot about this, but then being asked the right questions kind of triggered
Starting point is 00:03:10 certain memories. So that was hard. But overall, the writing process, I think it was very therapeutic. It felt good to put what I learned in school and college. I mean, I have been a writer my whole life and to be able to put that into actual work outside of an essay or a final project in school was really fun. So I hope you guys enjoy it because yeah, next question, does your book cover all years of life until now or what years? All of them. And I felt like with the photo part of it, I'm like, how do I pick which photos when I have 39 years of life, but there will be less than 39 photos. So that was a bit challenging, but we really do cover it all. Hollywood life is included in the book.
Starting point is 00:04:04 You guys want to know how much. I picked the most important parts of it because honestly, if I included all of Hollywood in the book, it would just be its own book. I mean, that was five full single years of my life. So I definitely took the biggest highlights from those chunks. The people I'm sure you want to hear about I definitely talk about. And yeah. Will this book include your birthing experience with preeclampsia? Yes, I talk about all of that. All of the struggles I went through. All of the OCD before I knew that I had OCD, before I was diagnosed, all of that. And I really hope by putting all of that out there that that helps other women understand
Starting point is 00:04:57 if they are struggling with postpartum OCD, you know, to get help and to know all of the tools that are out there that I've been using to help me. Mainly outside of medication is exposure therapy. I talk about that as well. So all of that is also in the book. What was your favorite part about writing the book and what were the challenges? Favorite part? Honestly, I really enjoyed going through old photos to put stories together for the book and just looking
Starting point is 00:05:34 back on my childhood. There are the years of my childhood that were really hard to go back to some of those memories like middle school, worst years of my life, but also looking back with my friends who I've known since kindergarten and still talk to to this day. Like that was really fun to just get to go back and relive some of those moments and things I forgot about. Like in college, I'm going through these photos and I'm like, oh my God, we have to put that in the book. This needs to be in the book so I think that was
Starting point is 00:06:07 definitely the most fun part. What topic or personal relationship was hardest to write about? I'm not gonna say that now but I think it will be very apparent when you read the book. What is your scariest chapter to release? Again, this will probably be very obvious when you read the book. There were things I went back and forth with. I'm like, do I put it all out there? Do I put everything in the book? Because one day my daughter is going to read this book and I struggled with it. But at the end of the day, I was like, you know what? I would be doing a disservice to myself and to everyone who's reading it. If I didn't put it all out there, if I skipped a literal chapter of my life,
Starting point is 00:06:51 then figuratively, literally just all of it. I needed to put it all in the book. And like I had said last week on the podcast, my final acknowledgement in the book is to my daughter. And I hope that you know if she reads it one day that she's proud of me for putting it all out there and just knowing that me sharing my story, our story, can help other people. Did writing your book bring up forgotten past traumas and if so how did you deal with that?
Starting point is 00:07:26 Definitely did. Still in therapy, so still dealing with those things. Will you be recording an audiobook version? Yes, I will be doing that myself because I think it would be really weird to have someone else's voice reading my story. So I will be recording that myself. I haven't done it yet.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Gotta make sure my voice is in tip-top shape. It is not after Brittany's birthday this weekend, but we'll get it back before we do the audiobook. Will you be releasing signed copies through bookstores? And what about a book tour? Absolutely doing a book tour. That's not scheduled yet, so I don't know exactly what cities or where I'm going to be,
Starting point is 00:08:04 but there will be signed copies, at the book tour and like I said Barnes & Noble and Premiere but like I mentioned earlier there are limited copies available for that so I would order those sooner rather than later assuming there still are some I'm not sure but get your orders in. Will your book be available in the UK? As of right now, you should be able to get it in the UK via Amazon or Premier. I know my sister-in-law, when she was checking in Australia, she had to get it through Amazon US. So yeah, it should be available anywhere if you have Amazon or Premier.
Starting point is 00:08:39 I know it's worldwide. So you should be able to get it anywhere. It just might not be delivered on July 22nd I think it said it would take like a week extra to get to Australia. So just be aware of that Will you do an Australian book tour speaking of not planned at the moment, but would definitely be fun I would love to do a full tour of Australia with the music with the podcast with the book So that might not be a specific book tour because I would like to have more into that and make it a full show. So stay tuned on that. You guys will definitely hear it here first when and if we plan that because I would love to do that.
Starting point is 00:09:16 When can we pre-order? Now, my goodsidebook.com. Is there a reason behind choosing? I saw this so much online and I don't know why it bothers everyone else more than it bothers my ex-husband or current husband. But is there a reason behind choosing to use your ex's last name on the cover? Why did you keep your ex-husband's name? Will you ever change your last name back? So I don't know how many times I'm going to have to address this, but no matter how many times I do, I feel like it's still probably one of the things people ask about the most.
Starting point is 00:09:50 I have built a professional career as Sheena Shay. Doing the show in Las Vegas, having to decide what name to put on the billboard, I felt like that was even another level of it. It was like, do I go back to Sheena Marie? I tried, it wasn't really sticking. Vegas really wanted Sheena Shay on the billboard. That was the name I was going by professionally. At summer school, in my personal life, on our Seesaw app, I am Sheena Davies. I am Mrs. Davies.
Starting point is 00:10:20 We are the Davies family. And at this point, I don't see changing my name professionally. I thought about it when we got divorced, going back to my maiden name, but then I'm like, if I get remarried, which hello, I did, changing it again, and it is a bitch of a process. And not just social security passport driver's license. I mean, my businesses, my retirement, my will, my trust, my houses, my everything is tied up in this name.
Starting point is 00:10:49 So, you know, if I could go back in time, I don't know, maybe I would have never even changed my name to Sheena Shay professionally, because then I'm altering my professional name around a man who I'm obviously no longer with, but I was young, I believed in forever, and the prospect of divorce wasn't even on my mind. I took my vow seriously, you know, for better or worse.
Starting point is 00:11:13 And I don't know, I also feel like, unfortunately, this is something that only women in the workforce have to deal with, which is annoying, you know? And then when we change it after divorce, it's like we lose some of our professional credentials and brand recognition and also are signaling that we've been unsuccessful in our personal lives. So I don't know. I just, you know, having to essentially do like a coming out as a divorcee. And it's like, I'm no longer Sheena Shay. I'm now Sheena Jankin again. Sheena. It just, I don't know. It wasn't for me.
Starting point is 00:11:51 And I know a lot of people also say like, well, you didn't have kids with your ex-husband. So why are you keeping his name? And you know what? I'm not the only one. Demi Moore, Susan Sarandon. And then there are the other people professionally like Tina Turner, you know? I mean, Ike clearly wasn't the best, but she kept his name. So a lot of people do it. We keep our names as they're part of our brand in this industry. And Sheena Shay just stuck. So it is what it is. And women are already coming into the workforce, you know, at a disadvantage
Starting point is 00:12:30 and changing your name every time you have a relationship update, it's just a further disadvantage. And frankly, there are much bigger things we should be concerned about than a name. So like, let's not make it harder for one another out there. And it genuinely does not bother Brock that I use this name. And also I did recently have lunch with Shay and I asked him point-blank and it does not bother him either. So if it doesn't bother the ex-husband, it doesn't bother the current husband, again I don't know why it bothers all of you.
Starting point is 00:13:07 And I feel like too, one last thing I'll say about this with the whole name thing. It's not just women in the industry, you know, famous women and whatnot, who have to deal with this or struggle with it. There are probably women right now listening to this podcast who struggle with the same thing. You know, it doesn't bother me. Whatever you guys say, like, how could you use his name? So it doesn't bother me.
Starting point is 00:13:29 But there are probably so many other women out there who struggle with this. Maybe they got a degree under their ex's name or this huge accomplishment and they don't want to go away from that name professionally. Personally, there's so many reasons, but also like it's not your name, so I don't know why it bothers you. And that's all I'll say on that. So on that note, I'm gonna take a quick little water break
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Starting point is 00:15:53 So many book questions, which thank you guys. I love how interested everyone is in the content of what's gonna be in the book. So questions about my background. Do you have any desire to meet your real father? Do you talk about your bio dad in the book? Does your book talk about your dad or your Latin heritage? I mean, my real father is the man who raised me.
Starting point is 00:16:16 That's the man I call dad. My biological father, yes, I do address that in the book. And also there's more with my last name and why I had the last name Janken growing up. So you do get more of that background. I do talk about growing up Hispanic and also just how that affected me in junior high being half white, half Mexican,
Starting point is 00:16:44 but having the white last name. And so you do get a lot of that in the book. How does Shay feel about the book? He was actually very excited. We went and got lunch last week. I wanted to tell him about it in person. I didn't want him to find out about it online. I was very honest, you know, I told him that I do speak about our relationship and he was like, you know what? It's your book. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:17:14 It's your story. And he was genuinely happy for me. He's known me since I was 15 years old and he knew that this is always something I wanted to do. So he was very happy. I told him that I'll give him a copy of it ahead of time so he's not blindsided by anything and who knows maybe one day we'll be sitting in this room discussing it together. We'll see.
Starting point is 00:17:36 How do you think your VPR castmates will react to what you wrote in your book about them? Hopefully, well okay, just be clear, this isn't a VPR tell-all. I mean, we do tell a lot, but this book encompasses my full life and VPR has been a huge part of my life, you know, especially my adult life, my professional life, and it is a part of the book just as it's a part of my life. But you'll see a lot more of my world beyond just Vanderpump rules in this book also, including my days at Villa Blanca, you know, before cameras ever picked up for Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.
Starting point is 00:18:17 I really do go back and discuss it all. Were there any topics, stories off-limits while writing your book? No, actually. I had to talk to my mom about this. I'm like, look, I'm gonna say this, I'm gonna say that. I had to talk to my husband about it, I'm gonna say this, I'm gonna say that. And everyone respected the fact that it is my story and it's my book. My mom is the only person outside of my team who has read it front to back. And she said that it was a really well-written book and she's really proud of me
Starting point is 00:18:56 and there's nothing in it that she would have changed. So having that stamp of approval was a big one and now everyone else has to read it. So I hope they feel the same. Was there anything you were nervous to write about in your book that is a big fat in all capitals? Yes. Is there anyone you think will be unhappy about any topics in your book? Probably not gonna lie I don't think every single person who's named in this book? Probably not going to lie. I don't think every single person who's named in this book is going to be happy.
Starting point is 00:19:30 However, it is my truth and I tried to be as raw and vulnerable and fair and open and honest as possible. And like with the stuff I wrote about Shay, I told him at lunch last week, I said, it's not all bad. I'm not bashing you. I tried to be fair, but I also needed to go more in detail of some stories, but also, you know, with where I know he's at in his life right now, I acknowledge that. And like I said, I tried to be very fair with how I worded things.
Starting point is 00:20:03 I went back, I rewrote things over and over and over. And I'm like, no, we gotta say this and I have to change this one word. And it was very particular. So I hope, you know, now that the final manuscript is completely turned in, I just hope I made the right decisions in how I tried to be very particular
Starting point is 00:20:23 with how I worded things. Because I'm not trying to lose friendships, relationships, or anything over this. I just am trying to be the most authentic version of myself that you haven't always seen on the show. Did you give an advance copy of your book to those depicted in it? How were those convos? No, not yet. Only my mom so far. There will be several conversations an advance copy of your book to those depicted in it. How are those combos? No, not yet, only my mom so far. There will be several conversations I have to have
Starting point is 00:20:50 before it's released. I actually just had one with Lala this weekend, letting her know something that I wrote about in the book that she didn't know about yet. And there are gonna be a lot more of those I have to have. Gotta talk to my dad, gotta talk to aunt D. I'm gonna tell them which chapters to skip, you know? Maybe they don't need to read the Hollywood chapter.
Starting point is 00:21:13 There are a few chapters that I would like some people to skip, but mainly my close family. So, yeah. Has anyone read your book yet? Well, like I said, just my team, myself, my editor, and my mom. What's one thing you weren't prepared for when writing your book?
Starting point is 00:21:33 Ooh, that's a good question. I don't know. I mean, I feel like I prepared quite well. I knew it was gonna be a lot of time, a lot of late nights. I feel like I do my best work creatively when I'm just alone in my house. Usually when my daughter's asleep at, you know, 9, 10 PM, I would sit on the couch and go through the edits and make edits.
Starting point is 00:21:58 And also when my daughter was at school, I got a lot of work done. But I don't know. I felt like with the writing process, which I do acknowledge in the book, you'll understand a bit of things that were unplanned and things that I couldn't have really prepared for, but I didn't know about it until I was in it. And then it was like, okay, well now what do we do? What are you hoping to convey to your readers the most with your book? I'm honestly just hoping to be more understood
Starting point is 00:22:32 because I feel like that has been a huge part of my identity. I've always felt very misunderstood in this. So I'm hoping that the readers just understand me a little more. You read this book, you still don't like me. Totally okay. But I want you to not like me for all of me, not just the bad side of me necessarily. How did you settle on a book cover? Are there any alt covers?
Starting point is 00:22:57 So actually, yes, this cover was not the original cover I pictured, this was the backup option after we shot, which if you're watching on YouTube, you'll see this is just a mock-up of the book. I'm sure there'll be some writing and stuff on it, but originally this was going to be the front cover. I was going to have my good side here, my name down here. And this is just how I saw my book. And then when we shot these as just options,
Starting point is 00:23:29 we did this in two different style dresses, which if you saw my Patreon, you get a whole behind the scenes of the full photo shoot. But after we did those two dresses, I was like, you know what? Like we're good, we got the cover. We were all so happy and we're like, well, we have like, you know what, like we're good, we got the cover. We were all so happy and we're like,
Starting point is 00:23:46 well, we have so much time. You're in hair and makeup, let's shoot some more and do the other options that we had. And then we came up with this and then we had the idea of putting a different expression in the mirror because it's like the side of me you've seen, the side of me you're gonna see in the book and just how with the show, I feel like sometimes you've only gotten the side of me you're gonna see in the book, and just how with the show
Starting point is 00:24:05 I feel like sometimes you've only gotten one side of me. So we felt that this was a much more compelling cover and I'm really, really happy with it. Maureen and Laura crushed it on the glam. Cory, amazing with the photography he shot and yeah very happy about it. When and how did you realize you had a good side? Honestly after doing seasons of reality TV I remember my interview camera used to be on the right side and when I watched the show back I was just, why do I look better sometimes? And this is just me in my head thinking this,
Starting point is 00:24:47 other people are like, we don't notice. But I'm like, why in some scenes do I look better? And in some it was like, my lip on the right side was thinner and from the interview camera, it just, it looked weird. So of course, what did I do? Like season two, three, I got filler in my lips. I realized that my hairline goes back further
Starting point is 00:25:07 on the right side and the bow tie, it was just a whole thing, which now it's funny too when I was going through old photos and college photos, so many of them are on my right side. And when people say I've had so much plastic surgery, I'm like, no, I've learned my angles. I used to smile a lot with my head down and on the right side. And if I smile now with a little bit of a tilt from my left, I do
Starting point is 00:25:31 look like I've had a nose job. I totally understand why people think that. I haven't. I just got better with my makeup. The cameras have gotten better. The lighting's gotten better. And, um, after doing reality TV, you will learn everything wrong about your looks. Because if you don't notice it, someone else will notice it for you.
Starting point is 00:25:49 Did you ask Stassi for advice on the writing process? No, I literally didn't talk to anyone about the writing process. I didn't even tell most of my friends until this fall that I was even writing a book. When I went to New York this summer and met with publishers, literally my friend Nima in New York was the only one who knew what I was doing. Cause we were like getting lunch and I had these meetings. He's like, what are the meetings for? I did not tell anyone because I wasn't sure the book was going to sell.
Starting point is 00:26:20 I wasn't sure even when it sold, if it was going to be able to fully be written in time with a deadline. And so up until a few months ago, most people in my life outside of my immediate family and my team obviously didn't even know I was writing a book. So I also, another main reason is I didn't want any outside influence. This is a different style book than some of my other friends on the show have written, but this is a full memoir. And I didn't want to have people in my ear telling me like, oh, you should write about this. Don't talk about this. And just influencing me as we've seen
Starting point is 00:27:01 on many years of Vanderpump Rules, I can be easily influenced at times. So with this book and you know when it comes to the book tour and all, I might be making some calls for advice on that. Stassi would be call number one. Lala when her book came out didn't get to do a real book tour. Hers was kind of COVID times and mostly virtual, same with Kristen. But yeah I'll probably ask some of the housewives and Stassi if they have any advice when it comes to that part of it. Do you want to continue down the book writing route? Ask me again after I get this book out, but I definitely loved the creative aspects of this process. And if I had the right idea for a future book,
Starting point is 00:27:47 which I do have a couple ideas, then yeah, we'll see. But we gotta sell this one first. So if you haven't already, go pre-order it, mygoodsidebook.com. What is your biggest takeaway from the ending of VPR? That you know what, we had a good run we had a great run I mean 11 seasons on the same show is it's amazing it's such an accomplishment in itself but it's opened up the door to so many other opportunities and I felt like the more and more I think about it, it felt right. It felt like the right time and was a bit of a relief if I'm being honest,
Starting point is 00:28:30 that I no longer have to film with some of these men and people who I don't really talk to that much anymore. You know, it felt like it was time to move on. If there's one thing you'd redo when it came to VPR, what would it be? I think honestly, standing my ground more and speaking my truth and my feelings and not worrying about necessarily hurting other people's feelings or what the audience is going to think or what Lisa Vanderpump wants me to do or say and just being my own person and being confident in my own decisions because that is one thing I
Starting point is 00:29:09 can blame the OCD all day long but that's one thing I struggle with especially as a mom is being confident in my decisions and just having that conviction feeling like no I know I made the right decision. I wish I had a little more of that, but hopefully, you know, you'll get more of that moving forward. What advice would you give to season one Sheena? Honestly, the same thing I just said to just stand your ground and not to be afraid of the repercussions or what other people think, just to do what you feel is best. Because looking back,
Starting point is 00:29:47 there were so many times where I wanted to speak up more and I felt like I did. Like for example, when Lala joined the show, I kind of got into the mix with the witches of WeHo of like, well, this girl is this and she shouldn't be on the show and like, da da da da da. But then I also had the moment where if you saw the TikTok that I posted with Katie, that fight season five at Shay's birthday party, I was standing up for Lala because finally I was just like,
Starting point is 00:30:17 I like her and they did not like that I was going against the grain. So as much as I did do that at times, I just wish I did it more and I would have told season one Sheena to always stand up for what she believes in and to not let anyone else influence her decisions. On that note, I'm going to take one more break and get some more water and I'll be right back. One thing I've talked about on this podcast before is Noom. So for those of you who are trying to lose weight right now, I know that most weight loss plans are a one size fits all, but that's the problem because they're not taking into account each person's individual needs.
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Starting point is 00:32:34 They were building a life together, lived together, and it was a lot. So I wish them both healing and peace as they now navigate, you know, living separately. And yeah, I'm just, I'm very, very proud of her because I know it wasn't easy. How was Brittany's birthday party? Any awkward interactions or did everyone play nice? Especially after what Kristen said about you and Lala on the Hot Mic podcast. Brittany's birthday party was so fun. We did have a seating chart.
Starting point is 00:33:04 So per usual, I was in the middle. So it was Brittany. And then, you know, we had some people on one side, some people on another side. Mostly the people who didn't want to be around each other, avoided each other, didn't take photos with each other. So I don't know that it was necessarily awkward. After you watch next season, I can go back to the birthday party because the only thing that was awkward wouldn't even make sense to you right now if I tried to explain it.
Starting point is 00:33:32 So we can come back to that. But as far as Kristin, I think she said I self-victimized. I mean, I think probably almost all of us have been guilty of that. I didn't really take offense to that. I did speak to Kristin and yeah, the party overall really fun.
Starting point is 00:33:52 How do you feel about Stassi getting her own Hulu show? I feel like it's about fucking time. I mean, she has been missed from our screens. So I'm really happy for her. I think that this is the best route. You know, she has another incredible book and yeah, I'm excited to watch. Does it bother you that you will promote and support your friends but they don't do it for you? See, that's the thing. I do and I don't agree with this. I do think
Starting point is 00:34:20 my friends support me. I think it looks differently with certain people. I feel like I will always ride hard for my friends and support them and that isn't conditioned. I think a lot of the time fans, people who follow me can make certain assessments based off of social media activity only, but not all of my friends have the same social media behavior, presence, whatever is me.
Starting point is 00:34:48 And, you know, just because maybe someone isn't commenting doesn't mean they're not texting me in support. Do I post more than some when they have something I'm proud of? Probably, but you know, I don't expect everyone to post to preorder my book. I got some comments, I got a lot of texts, and that in itself is support. And you know, buying the book, don't post it, just buy it. Like, that's enough support. So I feel like there are different ways of showing it,
Starting point is 00:35:19 and it's not always a social media promotion. Just because that's what I do, Everyone doesn't have to do it. And everyone has different love languages, different ways of showing up for each other. So for some it is through posting and commenting. And for others, it's, you know, it's different and giving each other ideas, encouragement, you know, maybe thoughtful gestures. Like I got some flowers sent to me. I had the sweetest handwritten card from Logan Cochran
Starting point is 00:35:52 when I went to TomTom this weekend for brunch. That itself like meant so much to me. Like the handwritten cards are so meaningful and Allie did that as well for me, brought me flowers and a handwritten card and you know, I'm like, did they comment? Did they post? I don't know. It doesn't matter. Those things matter to me. So, you know, just because the general public doesn't see something doesn't mean it isn't there. I just want to say that.
Starting point is 00:36:24 Have you started planning summer's birthday? What can you tell us? Yeah, I there. I just want to say that. Have you started planning Summer's birthday? What can you tell us? Yeah, I have. I can tell you that it's going to be not just one, but two parties because now that she's in school, you obviously can't just invite one kid. You have to invite the entire class unless you do a gender specific party where you just have like the girls go to the bibbidi-bobbity boutique or whatever. But then if I do a girl party, then I'm excluding Brittany,
Starting point is 00:36:50 I'm excluding Janet, I'm excluding my friends who have sons and I don't believe in that. So because there are 26 kids total in summer's class, not every day, just in their grade, their 26 total. I'm like, well, on top of, you know, Janet, Stassi, all my cousins, all my other friends, that's too many at one party. So we're doing two.
Starting point is 00:37:14 We're gonna do an after-school party at our local putt-putt, as Summer calls it. Some mini golf, arcades, cake, ice cream, chicken fingers, pizza, I don't know. And then the second one will be the typical party at my Aunt D's house with the bounce house. I think we're going to make it a pool party. I already have a lifeguard ready to go. And we haven't figured out the themes yet, but that one for our family and friends back home, like my high school friends and everyone else were doing that. So two parties.
Starting point is 00:37:47 And yeah, I just feel like the older these kids get, the more expensive the parties get, but I will do anything for that kid. And yeah, I'm excited. How did the fires affect Summer with her being so young? So I showed her stuff on Instagram. I talked to her about what was happening. Obviously, she donated so much of her own stuff, which just warmed my heart watching her go through toys and asking me like, mommy, was this from when I was one? Like, I want to give
Starting point is 00:38:21 this to the kids. And it was just really sweet to see her heart at such a young age. And I don't know if she fully comprehended, like, you know, there were kids that lived in this home and now this home is burned to the ground. You know, I wasn't showing her that stuff necessarily, but she was looking on the watch duty app and she's like, oh, that's the fire.
Starting point is 00:38:42 And I was like, yeah, but we live right here. So I was trying to give her some perspective, but I also didn't want to scare her too much. And the school was really great. They sent us different ways to speak to our kids about the wildfires and whatnot. Is Brock still training for the half Ironman or has the air quality changed that? No, he's still training. He just got his bike. So he's starting that process of it. He's still been swimming. He just ran 13 miles this weekend in the rain in Hermosa Beach.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Insane. But no, he's doing it. We're going to Puerto Rico in March. Do you think you were in your forever home? You know, I thought that until my car got stolen and now I'm not so sure. Though I did tell the cats when we moved into that home, this is where you'll die. They've moved so much with me over the 10 to 16 years almost
Starting point is 00:39:32 that I've had each of them. But also one day I would like one of those massive closets. That's like the size of a bedroom. So I don't know if this is my forever home, but it's for my long time home. I love our home. I just, the car, it kind of threw me off. Any update on the relationship between your mom and Brock
Starting point is 00:39:53 and any insight as to why she still doesn't like him? My mom loves him. She may not always like him. They are both two strong personalities, but they love each other. And I discuss this in the book as well, but they're, they're good. You know, I think the holidays was a lot for both of them. It was a lot of 24 seven time together in the house, the hotel.
Starting point is 00:40:17 And, um, now we're kind of back to doing our thing. Interesting. Okay. This next question, have you tried Luxapro? It really helped me with similar issues. Zoloft made me so tired. A lot of people have said that about the Zoloft. I think I convinced myself last year, I guess, 2023, when I first got on it,
Starting point is 00:40:36 that it was making me tired. I also think I just was tired having a kid who wasn't sleeping through the night and all of that. I did try Luxapro in my early 20s. It was not for me personally. Lexapro made me completely emotionless. I remember being like 23 years old visiting my uncle in the hospital and he was literally dying in front of my eyes and I couldn't shed a tear. And in that moment, I'm like, I don't wanna be this numb to pain and emotion.
Starting point is 00:41:11 And I remember flushing them all down the toilet and I swore off medication until I got on WellBoot 10 years later for anxiety. Then I stopped that when I was pregnant. Now I'm on Zoloft. And this honestly feels like the best one that I've was pregnant. Now I'm on Zoloft and this honestly feels like the best one that I've been on. So I busted my face and have discoloration in one of my front teeth. How did you deal with this? Oh my God. I am so sorry. I dealt with it with like five surgeries.
Starting point is 00:41:37 I think it was like $33,000 of surgeries. It was insane. Ended up having to pull one, get a bridge, veneers. It was a whole thing, but maybe an implant or veneers would work, because that's what I had to do. If you only have one hour a month for beauty treatments, what do you advise getting? Facial, the face card, you never want that to decline. Keep it hydrated, always a good hydrating facial. What has helped the most with your OCD? Exposure therapy really has been great because exposing myself to the things
Starting point is 00:42:13 I'm afraid of definitely helps me understand that I can take them on. Let's say the amazing race called, who would you go on that show with? I would say, hi, I'm going to put you in touch with Brock and my sister and I'm going to bow out and watch it because I think they would be an incredible team on it. I as much as I can be a daredevil, I am so picky about food. I could not eat any of that shit. Anything where I'm submerged in water, no thank you. So I don't know that the amazing race would be for me.
Starting point is 00:42:52 Would you ever consider having your own talk show on TV? Honestly, yeah, I would love to do more hosting one day. When I was in college, I thought I would be a news reporter or host like a daytime talk show or something like that. I think that would be fun. But I don't know that I would want it to be a solo show. I really like how like the view, the reel, the talk, those type of shows where it's an ensemble cast
Starting point is 00:43:17 and you can bounce off each other because it's a lot to carry just on your own, but I could see myself thriving in that sort of hot topics format. Would you do a spin-off show with Brock and Lala? Look, our little mixed family could be a cute show. We've talked about doing that maybe for YouTube, but like especially our moms,
Starting point is 00:43:39 I don't know if they'd ever agree in that capacity, but they're best friends. We're all best friends. The families are so combined at this point, although there's like no plans or discussions for that. So maybe you'll see that dynamic and other formats, you know, in the future. What's the biggest movie or TV role you've ever auditioned for? Any big roles that you almost got? Hot Tub Time Machine. I remember getting a callback for that for the girl who played opposite John Cusack in the flashbacks, obviously like in the 80s.
Starting point is 00:44:11 That was a big one. I auditioned for a part on role models where it's like the teacher with Sean Williams Scott, she takes him in the room. Crazy Stupid Love, I auditioned for that one. I remember I had to, it was the part with this girl, she's giving advice to the one who wants to take like the sexy photos and she's like, oh my lips are seals and she's like, and she's like doing the otter sound and I had to do that
Starting point is 00:44:36 in the audition. It was embarrassing but funny. There were a lot of big films that I auditioned for back in the day and I would get callbacks so often and then just like not book the role but they're always like oh I think we're going to go blonde for this or you're great and we'll use you for something else so yeah any hints of fun upcoming projects you're working on soon yes I yes, I will have more hints. Who do you want to win the Super Bowl, Chiefs or Eagles? As much as I love me some Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelce, you know, I'm going for
Starting point is 00:45:18 the Eagles. I think it would be dope to see the Chiefs get a three-peat, but Brock's good friend is one of the coaches for the Eagles and we have been rooting for them all season. The Chiefs are not only the best team in our division, it's like they're the best team in the fucking league and you know, I get it, like Mahomes is GOAT and if I did fantasy football, he would be my quarterback. But I'm going, I'm going Eagles. Gotta support the Eagles. Last question. I just moved to Glendora and wanted to ask, what's your favorite restaurant in Azusa?
Starting point is 00:45:49 La Tolteca. Always and forever. And now it's that time of day for the Jack's Hole. I was really struggling with that this week, but watching the Traders last night, like I love my girl Gabby, you know, and the Bambi's though, I gotta say, both of them going against their fellow Bambi, and I think the way that Krishel was so emotional with saying that she felt Nikki was a traitor, it really did convince
Starting point is 00:46:22 the room, and they went against their girl, and she got sent home, and she was a traitor. It really did convince the room. And they went against their girl and she got sent home and she was a faithful and I felt really bad for her. And to the traitors who keep knocking off my Bravo Girls, you better not come for Dolores. I'm telling you, if I was in there, yeah. But anyways, that's me for the week. Thank you all for listening. Again, if you haven't pre-ordered yet, you can go to mygoodsidebook.com. Again, there is a limited number of signed editions available via Barnes & Noble and Premiere,
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