Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - Silly Bitches

Episode Date: December 20, 2024

This week, Scheana is back in the studio with MJ and Kiki, or the “Silly Bitches,” as one listener derided the trio the last time they podcasted together. Why did Scheana pick up that FaceTime from Tom Sandoval, and what prompted her to hang up on a follow-up call from his “girlfriend” Victoria? What is Kiki’s theory behind Tom dropping his legal team? What advice does MJ hand down for navigating which presents are from Santa vs Parents (though according to Summer Moon, Santa does it all anyways)? Plus, why does Scheana name LVP as the Jaxhole of the Week? Tune in to find out! Follow us: @scheana @scheananigans Co-Hosts: @mercedesjavid @thetalkofshame The video version of this episode will be available on Scheana’s YouTube page on Friday, December 20th.Episode Sponsors:Get $100 off and your free consultation when you schedule at ideal.vip/scheana.Use code GOODASGOLD for 15% off your first purchase at LumeDeodorant.com  Go to colorwowhair.com/goodasgold and enter code goodasgold for 20% off all products.Head to factormeals.com/50goodasgold and use code 50goodasgold to get 50% off your first box plus free shipping.Produced by Dear MediaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The following podcast is a Dear Media production. From Vanderpump rules to motherhood and everywhere in between. Warm up the kettle, it's time to spill some tea. Let's get into some shenanigans with Sheena Shay Hello everyone, welcome back to what shenanigans Hello, everyone. Welcome back to Shenanigans. So the last time these two ladies joined me on the podcast, someone mentioned that we are silly bitches. So this week I wanted to get my silly bitches back together.

Thank you for joining me. MJ, Kiki, how we doing? We're down. You know, we're down to buy a house off the merch for silly bitches. Yeah. Yeah. I know, right? That'll work for me. Feeling super silly.

Yeah. I think we should just title the podcast Silly Bitches. Yeah. Okay. I'm down for that. Yeah. So it's the Friday before Christmas, right? Oh my God. It's Christmas next week? Yes. Yes. It's right around the corner. I'm like, that is next week. It's coming up really quick.

I still have another trip to Ojai this week with my daughter's school friends. I have not completed my Christmas shopping whatsoever because I just dropped like 10K on the Hawaii trip. So it was so fun. The fact that Moana remembered Summer's name. She was literally standing on the bridge over like the koi fish pond.

And she goes, hi Summer. And I was like, oh my gosh. And the fact that it was the same Moana. Yeah. Day one, it was a different one. Morning was one and then afternoon was a different one. So I'm like, it's probably just, but they looked very similar. Like those girls were probably sisters. Yeah. But then it was the same one the rest of the week and remembered her name. It was so cute.

Job security in Mali. Yeah, right? Oh, small island, right? And I just have to give a shout out to the lifeguards at Alwani. They are on it. Just in the lazy river. I mean, they're walking by, they're doing the things with the heads,

and it was just like, shoo, shoo, shoo. I was like, five star to the lifeguard. That's my first priority is safety. Because you've got sharks, you've got alligators, you've got the reason for aerial drone lifeguards. I think that should be a thing in Hawaii where your lifeguard is watching from above so that we can be safe.

Yeah, that is a good idea. And since we know that when they say, if there's too many parents, it gives a false sense of safety because everyone thinks that everyone is watching. Right. But in reality, one person has to be singularly assigned. Yes. Shout out to the lifeguards. Yeah.

For Summer's birthday next year, we're doing, we now have to do two parties because in school, you can't invite one kid unless you invite all of them. Love that. And even though there aren't 26 kids with her every day in the entire grade, because in school, you can't invite one kid unless you invite all of them. And even though there aren't 26 kids with her every day in the entire grade, there's 26 total. So that on top of, you and your son, all of my other friends with their kids, our cousins, it's way too many to do one party.

So we're gonna do one at Castle Park and do like a mini golf arcade thing for all of her school friends and then do a separate party. Shout out Castle Park. Yeah, right. I can't believe they do that for kids now. I mean, like back in my day, it's either just like you didn't get invited or you turned

down, you know, going to the party. But I do like that they do that. They said unless you're making it a gender specific thing, you know, if all the girls are going to the Bibbidi Bobbidi boutique. But then I'm single now. Is going to the Bibbidi Bobbidi boutique. Yeah. But then I'm singling out Britney. Is that shade to Bibbidi Beppo? The Bibbidi Bobbidi boutique. No, no.

It's at downtown Disney where they dress you up like princesses. They do a little bit of like sparkly glam. Put your hair in like the tightest bun you've ever seen. It's adorable. So it's like unless we're doing something like that, then we still have to have all of the girls. And it's like some of my closest friends, you know, you, Brittany, you have sons. So what? You just don't get to celebrate with me. Right. Right. So when I was going to invite my whole class, I told the teacher, I was like,

can you drop this invite? And she goes, you don't need to. He only has like three or four or five boy like friends. And so she gave me the pass not to include but that was a couple of years like in the pre-k so now I like this all inclusivity thing. Totally and I've heard about kids who have a birthday party and then no one shows up like that actually happens so I do like that they force us to do this I don't even remember why I started talking about this I had a point. Yes you were saying this year it's gonna be two birthdays, not one.

Oh, pool, lifeguard. The second one is gonna be a pool party, but I'm also hiring two lifeguards. One's gonna be in the water and one's gonna be out. You still have to watch your kids, obviously. But we're gonna have lifeguards at the party. That's where I was going with that. We'll be there.

So how are we feeling about Christmas? Do we have our Christmas shopping done? Absolutely not. Good. It's not just me. Not just that, but Tommy's birthday is on the 29th. So I have to cover two things. Yeah. I don't know.

I think I'm gonna get him an experience and I think he'll be happy if I... I love that. Surprise him. I think if we hop in the car and do Solvang, he's never done that before. So yeah. That'll be fun. That's so fun.

I love Solvang. Have you been to Ojai? Yes. Okay. See, I've never done that. So this is a first for me. Oh, it's going to be amazing. It's really quiet.

Are you going to Ojai Valley in? Yes. And they have like brunch with Santa and they have like elves deliver cookies to your room or something. But I'm like, wait, elves? Like, we have kids delivering cookies with pointy ears? I don't know, but the elf delivery. Maybe it just shows up at the door and you're like, oh, the elves came. I don't know.

So I'm interested to see what they do. It's my cousin's favorite place in the world. So I know you guys will love it. I've heard it's magical. So excited. However, what I'm not excited about is we had a terrible Chargers game yesterday. I don't know if you guys watched, but it's like 40 17. It was terrible.

And I thought that there was one last game on Sunday. They were going to have me do the siren thing to get the whole crowd going. I was going to bring summer. We've had this plan for months. And luckily for the Chargers, it's now upgraded to the Thursday night game because it's a division game. We're playing the Broncos. So everyone's like, yeah, Thursday night game. I'm like, cool. I'll be at the Ojai Valley Inn. And now I don't get to go to the last game. Summer doesn't get to go to any more games this season. Unless we make the playoffs, but just such a bummer.

So- You're gonna have to make the playoffs. We have to, but yesterday was, it's really bad. Anyways, okay, so trigger warning here for parents. We're about to discuss Santa and the gifting process. In case you have kids listening, which I really hope you don't, because this is not a channel podcast

or anything for children, but just in case you're driving your kids to school, maybe put a pause until you do drop off and then come back to it. So I want to ask you, because now, I mean, your kid's obviously a couple years older than me. And now that Summer is, I think last year, she definitely was super into Christmas and Santa, but this year more than ever and just believing in all of that.

How do you navigate what presents are from Santa, what are from you, and like, how do you divide that up? Where's everything from Santa, and he gets all the credit, and he doesn't even exist. I was gonna do only Santa, and then I realized, what are you doing? You're actually spending the money, you're doing all the gift wrapping and all the work.

And getting no credit. And getting no credit. So I'm splitting it in half. Okay. This year, because it's also a pond that I can use to, you know, convince him to be making good choices throughout the year. And I think that it's fair that he opens up maybe like 60 Santa 40 mom and dad. Yeah? Yeah. I think that's fair. I'm also curious, like, where do you hide your gifts?

Because I remember the moment I found a Santa gift before Christmas. Oh. I have a giant box in our garage right now and I have a bin on top of it so she can't even peek in it. And that box will come to Palm Springs with us, but I wrap everything in Palm Springs. So I put it all in just one area, and then she doesn't know what's in the box. And you change handwriting too, like from Santa.

So I feel like this year I'm gonna have to do that because I think she's gonna pay attention more. Or maybe the gifts from Santa just have an S on it or something, and it's for summer, it's for Santa. Maybe they're stamped with like a cool sticker or like a sign or something. I need to figure that out. An official North Pole passport. Yeah.

Also, Summer is very smart for her age. I mean, just I feel like what if this is my only Christmas she believes in Santa? Like I already worry about that. Like the fact that she's falling for this elf on the shelf every night, every morning. I'm like, you actually believe this shit? That's great. Can you explain the elf on the shelf? Like, what does the elf...

I know that every parent does this. Okay, so... It's a good thing. I didn't read all of the rules, okay? The trolls and moms of Instagram have let me know I was doing it wrong. So apparently, you can't touch the elf because you ruined the elf's magic. The elf's not real, okay? Like, what the hell?

Like, why does it matter if I pick it up? But someone saw that Brock touched it, and they're like, no, the magic! I'm like, you are commenting on Instagram, ma'am. It's adults on here. Like, what the fuck? So apparently, you need to use, like, you are commenting on Instagram, ma'am. It's adults on here. Like, what the fuck? So apparently you need to use like tweezers or tongs or whatever to have the elf.

So then I have to now make up this story because then Summer did watch the movie about the elf on the shelf. And I guess when the kid touched the elf, it loses its magic. So I was like, okay, well, I don't want her to feel like she's killing this elf. So I was like, oh, well, I don't want her to feel like she's killing this elf. So I was like, oh, Summer.

I said, so, mommy and daddy found out that, you know, like in the movie, when we do touch the elf, you know, this is his magic. But I came up with the thing of his little travel case. I said every time at night when you put him back in his travel case, it recharges his magic. So don't worry if you touch him a little bit, it's okay. Because then she was getting so worried. She's like, oh, mommy, I touched it. a little bit, it's okay. Cause then she was getting so worried.

She's like, oh my mommy, I touched it. I'll go, it's okay. It's okay. But like for the internet, let's try and do it the right way. How the hell would I know that you're not supposed to touch the elf? I'm just making him do different things every night. Plus regarding if he's, if she's going to find out

about Santa Claus being real or not, that can happen at school. Other people have control over that. There are other parents. They have older siblings. Yeah. And they might be telling... Yeah. I wonder if in school they try to discourage what parents are telling their kids.

And the reason I wonder that is because Shams being two years exactly older than Summer, I think he still definitely does. And that's why it is easy to hide gifts right now, because they don't think about like getting into boxes and certain things. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm just going to really enjoy this Christmas with her while there is still, you know, that magic because you never know at any year it could just go away and they don't believe. So Elf on a Shelf to clarify for Kiki is...

Like the elf moves around at night. It does different things. He's an official representative from the North Pole. He's helping Santa and he's watching you. So it is another bribe to make sure that you know that one of Santa's helpers is all over the place and you better stay in line. That's what I think. Big brother, little elf.

Exactly. Yeah. And Summer is a pretty well-behaved kid. So right now, she just thinks that the elf is just mischievous and getting into different things and he's a naughty elf, she says. She goes, no, he's a naughty elf. And people are like, wait, does she have Brock's accent? Just the way she says naughty.

She was not naughty. It's naughty. Like naughty elf. It's adorable. And so in the morning she wakes up, she goes, "'Mommy, do you think that elf—' Okay, so maybe if he's a nice elf, then he's still in my bed. But if he's a naughty elf, then he might have gotten into mischief."

And I was like, I don't know. We have to go see. And she's like, "'He's not a nice elf. He's a naughty elf again.'" Oh, that is so cute. And it's just been so fun. So we brought him with us to Hawaii in the little travel case, recharged his magic, did something different every morning. And I love that. It was really cute. That is. Yeah. There's a whole account about creative ways to make the elf show up. Like there's like a painter's tape and you basically block your entrance and he's like stuck on it.

There's so many creative things. Are you doing the flower footsteps out of the fireplace? Because we have to make, you know, like, oh, you're not doing that? No, you have to. So here's the when yeah, when Santa Claus comes, there's going to be. Oh, not the elf like every night. Like, oh, no, no, no. Santa. Oh, that would have been a lot of time. Okay. Santa Claus comes, there's gonna be... Oh, not the elf like every night, like for Santa. Oh, that would have been a lot of time.

No, yeah. Santa Claus footsteps in flower. Okay. With the cookies and the milk right by the fireplace. Where our fireplace is in Palm Springs is also like where all the presents are in front of. So I'll have to figure that out, but that's a good idea. A couple of combat boot footprints. Yeah.

And not a lot and it is really hard to clean up. It's really messy and it will mess up your vacuum cleaner. Okay. So just be really careful. Probably just use like wipes instead. Yeah. Yeah, but it's super worth it because it definitely is proof of life. Yeah.

And eat the cookies. I make it sound like my parents were terrible, but I found cookies. Yeah. Like they were amazing parents, but there were lots of clues along the way. They were like, this is them. Don't have lipstick on the glass. Yeah.

Right. Hey, Santa could wear some gloss. Because it's true, you know? Cherry lips, you know, he was kissing mommy. There's some lipstick on the glass. Always an excuse. I do have a problem with mommy kissing Santa Claus because I think that's...

Maybe she was a single mommy. I don't know, dude. I feel like it's giving the wrong message. It's basically saying you can kiss other men if you're married. I don't know. But how do we know that mommy was married? Oh wait, no, because then they say if daddy would find out.

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So many of the Christmas songs and like nursery rhymes that we grew up with. There's so many things that I'm like... Have been canceled. Yeah, but they still produce books with these things. and like nursery rhymes that we grew up with. There's so many things that I'm like, yeah, but they still produce books with these things. Like Summer has a two-year-old nursery rhyme book and it's all of the original nursery rhymes, like Humpty Dumpty, you know, sat on the wall,

had a great fall and they couldn't put them back together. And it's like, that's sad. Are you saying they're archaic? You know? Do we need to... Come up with new nursery rhymes. Like some new ones, some like 2025 versions. Yeah, like remember the mother who lived in the shoe? She had so many kids, she didn't know what to do and like couldn't feed them.

And it's just like... See, that's why that episode of Abbott Elementary was so funny, because that's exactly what she tried to do, because one of the students was Muslim and didn't celebrate Christmas, so she was trying to make a holiday song that ended up becoming like the worst song ever, she tried to do because one of the students was Muslim and didn't celebrate Christmas. So she was trying to make a holiday song but it ended up becoming like the worst song ever

because they couldn't fit everything else into it. And they were just like, so then they just made a fun kid song that was just about like poop and like snow or something. And they were like, perfect. Well, now you can't sing, baby, it's cold outside because that's, you know, got undertones. You know about that. Right. Like, oh, that's cold outside, because that's, you know, got undertones. You know about that.

Right. Like, oh, that's rapey. I'm just like, yeah, stay inside. You're going to stay in my house. I know. Keep drinking, yeah. No, seriously. So many songs.

Christmas is ruined. Yeah. Just listen to Christmas Sleigh. If you guys haven't already stream it, there's a remix out there. We decided to take out all of the Bravo references and just do a more classic version of Christmas lights. So that's now.

I want to hear it. I can't wait. It's good. I can play you our new little bridge. Yes, please. Little preview. For real. I was just listening to it on the way here

because I put it on a little girl. And then we changed the bridge. ["Santa's Christmas. I think it's like the best holiday song from the Bravo universe, even though you took all the Bravo references. I like it. But like the first version, we had the Trace Amigas sipping tequila, then Shannon had the DUI, and we're like, you know, the Trace Amigas are not Dos Amigas. And we're like, no.

And then we had Rachel's name in it. And it was just like, we're like, let's not. And then we were figuring out, can we pull down the old version? But because it was like the same artwork and the same name, we just had to put a remix up. So both are still available, but this one is just more of a classic Christmas.

I like it. I'm downloading both. Yeah. So how do you guys feel going into the holidays? Is it like a stressful time, a relaxing time? What are your plans? It used to be really stressful. I used to volunteer and stretch myself out onto like both sides of the family.

Now that I've learned to say no. That's important. It's so, it's a game changer. And now I just feel excited because I can catch up and I feel like, like you and I hung out. Yeah. And I can, I went in my closet yesterday to like fix a couple of things. To me, that is something that we should all have all year round.

And it's a shame that we only have it when things quote slow down. But for me, I am choosing that for myself and for that, that's my whole thing right now for the holidays. Love that. Yeah, it used to be really like depressing and stressful for me. And I think I was putting that on myself because I was just like, you know, like I don't have kids and I don't want to have kids. My parents never pressured me to have kids,

but I was just like, kind of felt weird. Like if I go home, you don't have to buy me gifts. I'm an adult, I can do my thing. But now that my friends have kids, it's more fun. Like I like watching the joy through them and being a cool auntie and using the end of the year to recharge for myself. So I just use it as like a, like, what are my goals for next year? And then just like living through the joy of like these little kids

who don't have to worry about being an adult yet. Totally. I forgot about the kid part. Was there a kid part? But that's how I feel too. I'm like, there are certain things where I told my sister, I'm like, oh, if you see this, like, I want this. Because I know we still are going to do gifts for each other. But, I mean, we're adults.

You know, I'm like, you don't need to buy me a present. I would rather pay for an experience or do things like that. I mean, we still always end up buying gifts. But it is about the kids. And it is so fun. Like the older Summer gets, I remember her first Christmas and she couldn't figure out really the wrapping paper into each year. And now I'm like, she's gonna wake up so early and be so excited.

Like we're Santa. Did he eat the cookies? What did I like? So cute. I'm so excited. Do you guys do that on calendars? Yes. Okay. Yeah. We do.

That's how we get our kid out of bed every morning. Yeah. So she decided to start it in November because she couldn't wait because my sister stupidly gave it to her in November and she's like, but this is for December. I'm like, that's three weeks from now. And she's like, can I just open one please? And so it's all fucked up. Last year we were on it each day. So it's just been at my mom's house and we do the elf on the shelf every night. Yeah. But basically the advent calendar just helps him. It's like the alarm clock. Yeah. You know, because they're so excited to open up a toy or a piece of chocolate that

it's the smoothest transition to wake up in the morning on the whole month of December. Yeah. Yeah. Like you can't give something to a kid three weeks in advance and be like, but hold it. You know, why are you giving this to her right now? And she's like, I don't know, I had it. I'm like, now we just let her do it on, you know, November 12th. I was able to convince my parents to like, let me open one present at midnight. But like they always gave me, my mom would always give me like the slippers or like the, like it was never like the fun toy.

I did that last year with her. My mom would always give me like the slippers or like it was never like the fun toy. This is what you get. This is what you get. I did that last year with her. I gave her the little mermaid heels last year. Not at midnight. She was already asleep. But the night before, I'm like, you can open this one.

And she's like, oh, they're heels. And she loved them. But you know, the good stuff, we save for tomorrow. But yeah, I still have a lot of shopping to do. And then she saw me on Amazon the other day, not for her, but I was getting something for my mom. And she's like, I go, all right, mommy's have a lot of shopping to do. And then she saw me on Amazon the other day, not for her, but I was getting something for my mom. And she's like, I go, oh, mommy's just finishing some Christmas shopping for Nani and Opa.

And she's like, but Santa does that. And I'm like, oh, so you think Santa does it all? Like, no, no, no. Mommy also buys some presents. And I was like, well, Santa does a lot, but you know, mommy and daddy still are going to get some stuff. And she's like, I just, I don't understand. Like Santa does everything.

I have a question for both of you. Do you guys think since you were talking about gift giving to friends and your sister and everything, what do you think about the denomination of like, what a gift costs not being important, but just being like more, I remembered you like this and it could be really a $5 thing. It doesn't even matter. For me and my cousin, she's like my sister and shout out Ziba. She would love to just, you remembered, you know?

And like, what do you guys think? If I gave you guys like something, it could be like shoelaces basically, or shoelace budget, shoestring budget. Would you be like, that's all she gave me? No, I love thought more than anything. Totally. Even if there's not a gift, but you're like,

I thought about getting this for you and then I didn't have time. It's like, that's enough. Literally the thought. Aw. She gave me for my birthday her sir outfit, her original sir outfit. And then she gave me a candle. I didn't realize it until I got home. The candle is Pinot Grigio flavor. Like those, cause she knows I have a pop culture wall

and like I love those little likes, important pop culture. See now our stocks just rose to the sky. I love that too. No, it's definitely the thought. Even yesterday we were going to the football game and my friends who were going with, they called and they're like, oh, do you guys want Starbucks before we get to your house? And I was like, yeah, I ordered one for me and Brock.

And then five minutes later, I was like, shit, my mom's here. And I was like, they already left Starbucks. And I was like, mom, I'm sorry. And she was like, it's okay, the afterthought. And I was like, no, but at least I thought she was, no, I'm not being sarcastic. Like it's the afterthought, at least you still thought about it. And I was like, yeah, I'm sorry. And she's like, I already had coffee today anyways. But I felt so bad, no, I'm not being sarcastic. Like it's the afterthought, at least you still thought about it. And I was like, yeah, I'm sorry.

And she's like, I already had coffee today anyways. But I felt so bad, but I'm like, I still thought. Yes, yes, exactly. You were raised properly. Yes, I was. And sometimes I feel like just the stress of life, like I get so overwhelmed and then I forget things. And it is a lot of afterthoughts since after becoming a mom for me.

It's true. It's still there. I think that's why I'm trying to catch up this month. I'm like, okay, every little thing that you think about too much, we need to like cross those off. That starts to wear on me as well. So it's no wonder I gotta get rid of it. For sure. Do you guys do a real or a fake tree?

We converted to fake. It is a really big tall tree. And I don't even know why. I think it was the year that our real tree did not smell so fresh. And I was like, the whole point of having a real tree is so that it's like going to smell like Christmas in your house. So it's fantastic. I feel like nothing is wrong with it. And it's pre-lit and it's Douglas fir. And that's going to be it until... Yeah. Purposefully.

Yeah. I have PTSD. We mostly had fake trees growing up. And then one year, because maybe I wanted them. Like a real tree. All my friends have real trees. And then we literally drove out to our country house. And my dad chopped down an actual... Wow. Not even on a Christmas tree farm.

Just like, I think it was the woods. And my mom, I just remember it was sap all over the house. Like it was terrible. And so fake trees always. Yeah, I've converted as well. I grew up with only real trees, but now my mom has converted to fake as well. The one that I got a couple years ago,

I realize every year it's not pre-lit and I hate putting the lights on. And I'm like, Sheena, just buy a new tree. But I don't realize it until not pre-lit and I hate putting the lights on and I'm like Sheena just buy a new tree But I don't realize it until I'm putting it together and now summer was so excited. I'm like, okay I'm gonna remember like I might even just order it now So and then this one like donate to a family with all of the lights and stuff just because I don't need another one Yeah, but I highly recommend that. Yeah.

There's one more thing for the people that do have a real tree. Don't forget to water it. You don't want your Christmas to be on fire. Like every four days, filling that up, people forget that it's dry. Yeah. And it's thirsty. Have I ever told you guys the story about when my Christmas tree caught on fire? My first Hollywood apartment.

Oh no. So it was time to get rid of the trees and where our balcony was, was in the back alley where the trash gets picked up. And so we just thought, you know, instead of making the mess down the hallway and the elevator having to clean all that up, we just toss it off the balcony.

So we did. And I guess someone above us had tossed a cigarette butt off their balcony. And my roommate Farrah and I are home, and all of a sudden we see these flames right outside it in the alley, and we're like, oh my god, oh my god, I'm freaking out. I don't even know how I just went into this mode, but I'm like, what do I do?

I know where the fire extinguisher is in the hallway. I run down the hallway. It's locked, obviously. I bust it open with my elbow. My arm didn't work for like a solid week after that. It was— I probably broke something. And so I bust it open. Never used a fire extinguisher in my life.

I run down the stairs, down like five flights of stairs. I go, I pull it, do the thing, and I put the fire out. Amazing! I don't know how— You didn't know how to use the fire? No, I just like somehow instinct, paranoia, whatever kicked in. And I put the fire out and I was just like, OK, maybe we shouldn't have a real dream.

OK, so you have good fight or flight. See, I feel like I never pay attention to instruction. Like on the plane, I don't, I don't, I wouldn't know where the flotation device is, because you hear it all the time. Wait, do I do my math first? Do I do theirs first? I wait, what is it? Say Why do people think they need to learn how to use a fire extinguisher? We know one thinks they can yeah, right

It's like the whole thing is that everyone should think Confidently like you just have to pull up in right ass it but it's hard I did if You did it. But even the same with like, do you have a life hack at your house? Yes. I hope I never have to use it. It seems like it's pretty simple, but I'm like, God forbid, Summer, Brock, anyone is ever choking. I'm like, will I know how to use it?

But I'm like, I think it'll kick in. Just like the fire extinguisher that day. I just, I knew what to do. But it was really scary. I thought we were going to burn down the entire building and it was my fault and it's terrifying. It would have been the cigarette person's fault. Yeah, but the tree wasn't technically supposed to just be there

in the alley, so it would have been on both of us. How did it get there? I threw it off my balcony. Right. Totally normal. I know. I saw this story about a family who swore off real trees because there was, unbeknownst to them, this praying mantis, like larva in it, and there were like thousands of babies all throughout their house.

Oh God. From the real tree. Oh God. Are you serious? Yes, I'm serious. That's crazy. So I'm like, you know, there's many reasons why we don't need real trees anymore. And it just does create a mess.

The cats try to climb the real trees, eat it. They're drinking the water. And I'm just like... No, gracias. Except now Salem still tries to eat the fake tree and then he's throwing up. And I'm like, you're gonna kill yourself this Christmas. Please stop. It doesn't taste good.

It makes you sick. Like how have you not in almost your 11 years of life understood to not eat fake trees? No, I don't understand it like cats have like they just want to eat everything. It's especially plastic. I don't get it seriously Okay, so we're gonna take one more break and then we're gonna kind of in the words of Andy Cohen switch gears from holiday to some people Here's from Holiday to some people. I'll be right back. Okay, ladies, I've got something else for you, and that is ColorWow, which is a female-founded,

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Okay, so there seems to be a lot going on with my former VPR castmates this week. It's like the cameras go down, the headlines do not. So Tom Sandoval, Let's just talk about this. So, his attorneys in Raquel's revenge porn suit have petitioned to remove themselves as counsel, noting that Tom is now gonna be representing himself. Do we think that this is, Tom can no longer afford his attorneys?

Do we think his attorneys no longer wanna be associated with this because they realize they're going to lose? Like, what are our thoughts here? Ooh. My immediate thought was he couldn't afford them anymore because, I mean, you know, those lawyer bills add up so quickly. Yeah, giving broke, giving no next season, giving I've spent my money.

No bar, no show. Right. And so I feel like he'll bring on another attorney at some point, but one that either is going to do this for a lot less, or maybe someone, maybe he knows an attorney who might do this for a mate's rate or something. I don't know. Or does Tom just have that ego where he's like,

I can represent myself. I hope not. I hope not either. I hope not too. Like, I mean, you need a lawyer, but. But let's get back to the part where you said, "'Cause he knows he's gonna lose." Do you think that there's evidence out there?

Do either of you guys think he's in a position to be losing because of the revenge foreign proof that we've heard about, allegedly? I mean, that's the thing. I mean, I've heard two different stories, right? I mean, I've heard the story that it hasn't been passed around. And if that is at the crux of it, then he's not gonna lose. Because unless there is proof that somehow this did get passed around,

I don't know how he would be held liable for that or Ariana. What about the illegal recording of it? That's the thing. I mean, if you're on a FaceTime with someone and you are screen recording that, I guess there is a precedent set for, like, you shouldn't be screen recording that. Mm-hmm.

But does that... But I didn't think that that was illegal. I thought it was only illegal if that then was then sent somewhere. If it was just sitting there. And they'd have to prove that she doesn't have any follow-up text messages saying, like, wasn't that hot, like, show it to me. Oh, true. Because if she did discuss it with him after the fact, then she had knowledge of it,

then it could save him from being accused of it being unbeknownst to her. And if she's ever sent him anything in the past, it could also set a precedent. Like, you've sent me photos and videos, and like, so I didn't think that this would be any different, you know? So he might think he has a case, and he doesn't even need to pay for a lawyer, because he's like, I've got this in the bag.

Yeah. Well, we know Tom Sandoval loves a FaceTime, because I got a surprise one while in Hawaii. What? Okay, so that was a surprise. So you got a surprise one while in Hawaii. What? Okay, so that was a surprise. So you did not know he was calling you. No. Okay.

Wait, give me every detail. I'm so confused. So I'm at the North Shore house with Lala and Fam and Lala's holding the baby, Summer and Ocean are playing and my phone starts ringing and I go, Tom Sandoval is trying to FaceTime me right now. And I'm like, we don't talk on the phone. We don't talk. So I'm like, what do I do?

And Lala's like, I mean, no judgment here. And Brock's like, I don't know. I'm like, do I answer? Like, I'm kind of curious. There was all of this news in our world that came out that day. So I'm thinking, this must be important. He must be calling to be like, hey, just so you know, heads up, blah, blah, blah.

So I'm like, do I answer? I don't know, and it's almost about to end, and I was like, fuck it, I'll just answer. Right when I answer, he's like, hey! And then he goes to the crowd. I think he's at a Most Extras show or something, and I'm like, and I have no makeup on. My hair is disheveled, and I'm like, and I have no makeup on. My hair is like disheveled and I'm like,

and then I just, my immediate reaction since like Lala and Brock were right there, I'm like, panned them. And I realized Lala's holding the baby and I was like, oh my God, was her tit out? Like I didn't know she was feeding the baby. So I was like, Lala's here and I was like, oh wait, okay, no, boob not out, okay, we're good.

And then I'm like, Brock, and I just like, allalao's here. And I was like, oh, wait, okay, no, boob not out. Okay, we're good. And then I'm like, Brock. And I just, like, all these people are screaming for us. So I didn't want to just hang up and like disappoint the people screaming for us. But I'm like, what the hell, dude? Okay, like I'm not- So he's on tour, basically.

He was doing some city winery, like BBR trivia night. And everyone was so excited to see us. And I'm like, he probably went down his list and like no one's answering. And then let's try to call Sheena. And Sheena answers because when it's someone I don't speak to like in so long, I think this is probably important.

And there was a lot of stuff happening that day that I assumed it was important. It was a big news day. Plus I know that you have a relationship with Tom, like I'm sure you have with your Shaz cast members work. Even if you're not talking, you're always there for them if something. And like, you kind of use one of those free passes

because you're just on stage and you needed me for a prop. No, like now I'm not gonna answer in the future. And then he called us back after, he's like, sorry, he's like texting us and he's like, oh, the next time I call, like, I'm not gonna be on stage. And he calls us back and I He's like, sorry, he's like texting us. And he's like, oh, the next time I call, like I'm not going to be on stage. And he calls us back and I'm like, what the hell, dude? Like first, that's not okay.

I'm like, so nothing important to say. You just wanted to like show that. And he's like, sorry. I'm like, bye. And then Victoria gets on the phone and she's like, Lola. She's like, I fucking love you. You're fucking the shit. And I was like, oh my, I was like Victoria.

I had to hang up. I was just like, my child is right here. It was, oh my God. And then she's texting me after like, I'm so sorry. Like I didn't know your kid was, I just, I was like. Is she unwell or is she well? Like is she? Okay, well, I mean, it looks like on Instagram

as of last night, this morning, they broke up again. She posted something, He went on live. It was like, I mean, all I saw, because I don't follow her and she's private, even though she has like 400,000 followers. And like, I know that she went to private and she posted this long thing about, oh, wow, you guys were right.

Tigers never change. It's stripes. He loves the best friends. Apparently, I feel like a fool, completely heartbroken. And Tom took all the pictures down of the two of them apparently. Oh, really? Yeah. Because then he went live for like one minute, and at the very end was just like,

Victoria has made a really big mistake, and then like hung up on the live. Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm just like, I can't. I feel like by the time this podcast comes out on Friday, they're gonna be back together. They probably are. If not already.

Oh, wait, she might already be back together. Wait, hold on. I just want to... Stop. Hold on. Someone just posted online. Wait, 15 minutes ago. Victoria just posted, I would like to sincerely apologize for my previous post. I had a true misjudgment in his situation.

Tom did not do anything. From my own personal trauma and experiences hearing false accusations about him all the time, clouded my judgment and got the best of me. Please respect him and know he's actually been the most supportive partner. The internet can be harsh sometimes and I'm learning how to block out the noise. Girl!

So it's giving back together. I can't. Well, they just got a place together, right? So... Did they? Did their house sell? Like, I don't know. Honestly, I'm so removed from that part of the show, people, that I'm like, I don't even know what's going on.

I figured that she, that Ariana got a house and that they sold that one, but maybe we don't know. I honestly have no idea. You don't know if the other one sold? I don't know if it sold. I mean, I thought they were still dealing with that and litigation too. And actually, sorry, not to go back to his lawsuit.

Now I'm actually wondering if Tom, cause he knows he's tied to Ariana in that lawsuit and he knows that like technically like either one goes or the other. So maybe he's thinking that Ariana's lawyers will be so good that he can just sort of like hitch his wagon and kind of, I don't know. I'm just, again, I'm just theorizing things. Not a bad theory. Yeah.

Because she got some money from them good lawyers. Oh, for sure. I think so. But you know what? She's working hard for it and good for her. In other VPR news, Jo, I saw announced on Instagram this past week that she has declined an offer to appear on The Valley. Like, it's pouring out for Jo.

But for real, is she OK? She's delusional, right? Like, talk about a wackadoodle, but also kind of concerning. Like, I feel like her family maybe needs to step in and actually like, are you okay? What was she like when you were around her? A wackadoodle. Okay. Just chaotic energy.

Always. It was a lot. And it's like, she was like a kind soul, but a wackadoodle. Okay. So, I just... No one's asked you to be on The Valley, Jo. Why would you be on The Valley? There were no discussions of season 12 for you, Jo. Season three, season two? You know?

What season? Yeah, any of them. With The Valley or VPR? Both. None of them? No. Yeah, I just see, I'm trying to figure out what her role would have been,

who would have been having these conversations with her. Talking about getting dumped on national television, international television, national television. I was like, have a drink for every time Joe says national television. But then she said like, I just wish Schwartz would unblock me because I miss him. And I'm like, girl, if he has you blocked, like, you're definitely not coming on anybody's show. Seriously. Oh, poor girl.

I know. Okay, still sticking with Bravo. Real Housewives of Salt Lake City has been, you know, top tier reality TV this season. I feel like this scene of Mary showing up to Meredith's bat mitzvah and trying to peek through. I mean, that deserves an Emmy all on its own. That was so funny. I can only imagine the memes, you know, of her just like... Mary is hilarious. Well, if you ever talk to Mary, have her unblock me. She was. I saw that.

I really like her. I saw Mary. I was. At Kathy Hilton. It was my opportunity to say hi, first of all, to Mary. And then she was, and I was like, I know you don't know me because I assumed that she's one of those people who doesn't watch Bravo. Probably, yeah.

She's like, MJ. Oh. I know exactly who you are. She's a shots man. Oh. I fell over. She was like, you were always genuine and sincere in yourself and I could always tell that. I love that. I know and She was like, you were always genuine and sincere in yourself.

And I could always tell that. I love that. I know. And I was like, and so I just was like, obviously my opportunity to tell her that she, what she did was the most important piece of reality TV ever with her son. But yeah, she was at Kathy Hilton's. So was a lot of the Salt Lake City girls. I saw a lot of them were there. I was bummed I missed that. And did she give you an update on Robert Jr.? Like I didn't even ask her. We were just kind of kiki and talking. It was brief, but I did see Bronwyn and every single one of the girls,

Angie, all of them. So it was just like a nice night. I did see James and Ali that night. They were, yeah. So, but yeah, that was a really funny moment of Mary trying to get into the bar mitzvah. And just watching this stuff with her and her son as a mom, I think just even as a viewer, that tugs on the heartstrings, but as a mom, I was just like, I'll cry. I was literally, I don't cry often when I watch reality TV,

but those scenes were so powerful. And I'm just like, her saying, it was literally, I don't cry often when I watch reality TV, but those scenes were so powerful. And I'm just like, her saying, you know, it was like, I tried for so many years, like I wanted you so bad. And like, you just want to leave this world. It was heartbreaking. Also, it really hit because that's her only child. I have an only child. Same.

I felt like she said everything that anyone would ever want to hear. And she really, really came through and made us all so proud watching. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. She's in our prayers and obviously we want Robert Jr. to heal and be in a great place. Mm-hmm. Yeah. This is the first season of Salt Lake that I've watched every episode of.

Every other season, I would catch the beginning, the end, a little bit in the middle. But I just haven't made the time to watch this many Housewives franchises in a row. Because it's like, we have three on at once. That's a lot. On top of, you know, scripted shows and other things that I try to watch. And I can't watch TV till like 9, 10 PM and then I'm tired. And I am loving this season though. And I don't like Lisa right now.

Lisa Barlow is on my shit list. She's really pissing me off. What she did at this trip, like they get there and they're assigning rooms and, you know, Bronwyn can't be in that room and she's so affected. And I felt like that bruise that she got attacked by a dog and she showed up. Yeah, and you see this like one moment where they're recording the walk up, you know when you have to pretend you're arriving

into a hotel over and over and how many times they shoot that. So that really showed on the final cut of this recent episode. Yeah. Lisa Barlow, as much as we run into each other in the street, so you don't want to say anything negative, but she's just seeming really selfish to me right now. It's hard when you watch OC and you see Tamara's behavior

this past season, and then you're watching Salt Lake and you see Lisa's behavior this season, but then when we're with them in person, I'm like, you're not like that at all. We just had dinner with Tamara last week at Crystal Minkoff's house. And had a very long talk with her. And I just, right when I saw her, I'm like, hey, how are you?

And she's like, what a shit season. I'm like, I know, I watched. Yeah. I told her, you and I, the three of us were sitting together and I was like, you didn't have a good season, girl. How are you? Yeah. Or like, are you going to check into, you know, know, and she owned it, like she's such a pro.

She's kind of like already on the other side of it. She knows that she isn't doing and looking the best, but just being able to like kind of start right there and say, you did this that was wrong, you did that that was wrong, and she took it well. No, housewives who are professionals and know like I'm having a bad season, but it's okay. Whereas like, I feel like someone like Brynn, right?

Loved Brynn for a season. She's having a terrible second season, but I don't know. I don't feel like she knows how to pivot and react. And I feel like she's like lashing out, lashing out at Jeff Lewis. Like it's getting kind of like, oh Brynn, this is not. You gotta like, you have a bad season and you gotta like rebound.

I forgot about New York because I caught up on Potomac. Yes. And Mia from Potomac is also another person not having the best season. Not having a great season. She's letting her kids be roadkill for this whole situation. And all I can think of when I watch her is, why don't you just be single and not have your husband? Do you have to have your boyfriend and your husband living together while he has mental

health issues? Then all the more reason to protect him during this time. So she's coming off all kinds of ick and bad. And that's why now I have to catch up on see what Brynn's up to. Yeah, I just finished catching up on New York last night, fell asleep on the couch, and all of a sudden I hear, Mommy, Mommy, and I'm like, what's happening? And then Summer had gotten out of bed, and I was like, oh my gosh, sorry.

And then I was like, shit, the elf, oh my God. Oh my God. I love that that's, oh my God, the elf. I freaked out, it was like 1.30 in the morning. I wake up so disoriented on the couch. I put her back in bed. When did she wake? And she just woke up.

She had a bad dream. And normally she'll walk into our room, but she was just standing because she saw the lights were still on and heard the TV. And after you watch a show like on Peacock, then it's like the after show, just something else. And I'm like, what am I watching?

Then I'm like dreaming about the Housewives. And I was just so out of it. It automatically reloads like the first season of Below Deck. I'm like, what am I watching? Then I'm like dreaming about the Housewives. And I was just so out of it. Automatically reloads like the first season of Below Deck. I'm like, no, I don't want to watch anything Below Deck. Yeah. And then I was like, oh my God, I don't want her to see like the elf hasn't done anything yet. And so I like put her back in bed. I lay there for a second and I'm like, now it's, I'm wide awake at 1 30 in the morning. I need to go down, do something with the elf.

And so he got into her crayons in her little butterfly room that we have. There was a crayon trail and he was drawing. So naughty. Yeah. But, okay, wait, back really quick to Salt Lake and Bronwen. So the dog bite, I mean, that looked really bad. Imagine if it was a child, like, I can't even imagine it would have been so bad. I just feel like with the number of bites and like, yeah. Yes, and you know that dog has rabies shots and all that, that's terrifying.

But she said that when she was headed to the ER, she tried to get Todd to come, and he said it was likely just a scratch and that he wouldn't come. And so her daughter came. I'm sorry, but if I called Brock, if you called Tommy, if you called whoever, and you say, this happened, I need you there. I- They would be there before I even hung up the phone. Literally.

That's crazy. And then did you see something in the preview for the rest of the season where she says something about the infidelity? Yes. Obviously, you know, things can be taken out of context, but I'm like- No, she said, what about the infidelity?

If we're really gonna get into my marriage difficulties, there's infidelity. If he cheated on her on top of all this other neglect, I would be done with Todd. That's really bad. And I don't mind him criticizing her and not wanting her to get her hands dirty on the Palm Springs trip, because he really did see her raising her voice in ways that I'm sure he don't, he doesn't see around the house. But the... prove it? Prove that it's more than a scratch? Right? Like, no. Like, get to the hospital.

And I also point out that I read, like, because some people I think, you know, might not... I love Bronwyn and some people might feel some type of way. But I love people who do stuff behind the scenes and don't talk about it. But after she got bitten by that dog, it was because it was a foster dog, the person, the guy was sitting in his car talking on his phone, not paying attention to his dog in the dog park. She paid for the medical expenses for that dog and then paid for that dog to get retrained and rehomed to a new home.

Wow. Because she loves dogs that much, even though it attacked her and you know. Speaking of dogs of Bronwyn, I wasn't impressed by the amount of dog shit that was all over her house. I did ask her about that when she came on reality check. I said, why was there so much dog shit in your house? And she said, the reason was, was because she was so worried about making sure

that Heather and her had a good time and made up that day that she wasn't concerned about the dog shit. Maybe she should have been more concerned about cleaning up the dog shit instead of Heather coming over. I don't know, it might've just been an excuse because. Listen, I know that having dogs can be a responsibility, but let's start with one speck of dog shit and I will take 10 rolls of Clorox and Lysol

and it will be sterilized on sterilized. And it has to, because then once you have that smell, they'll keep going there. So it's like, you have to clean it up immediately, spray that stuff on it. And that's hardwood floors. That is a fabric that absorbs. I don't know. That wasn't an answer basically. We're both going to have to tell her.

Yeah. Okay. While we're still talking Salt Lake, what do we think about the high body count hair comments? Yeah. Also, does Jessie from Secret Lives of Mormon Wives do Brittany's hair? I saw that online somewhere. I saw them do a TikTok together. She was in her chair, so I think so.

Yeah. But that hair was bad. And then she recovered the next day. Yeah. I mean, the thing is, I love Angie so much this season and she's just killing it. And I will say that Britney, I couldn't stand her in the beginning.

Now I love her too. So I love them equally. What about me? So she's the butt of every joke. Yeah. And I don't like her choices. I don't like that hypocrisy of why did you bring me wine? And I have boyfriends, but then you're saying like, you're doing three guys. And the way Angie comes for her, it's like, girl, you established that, you were flexing that.

So stay with it, own it. It's her unhingedness though that makes me laugh because I'm just like, this is not, but it's perfect for reality TV because she is so genuinely like questioning these things. She's like, she'll stand up, you guys. Ding, ding, ding, ding. Yeah.

Oh, it's so good. I don't like it. Oh, the next one was that she's like, I have an update. One of my daughters and they flash away. Her daughter is so young is talking to me. I was like, this is so bad. I know, but it's like ding, ding, ding. I have an announcement. They're like, and then no one says anything. It's just crickets. I think the subtitle said crickets chirping.

I really hope that that was not a Frankenbite and that they were really like, we don't care. Ah. Wait, speaking of updates and alerts, this entire weekend, all of my like, I felt like page six TMZ, I kept being like, Sheena Shay says she had a sleepover with Ryan Phillips. Oh my God.

From that one little comment we had last week. It was just a side comment. We're talking about Thursday nights when I used to go to clubs in Hollywood, and Dan Tanna's is how it started. And my roommate at the time was dating Jesse Bradford, who was like best friends with Breckenmire, Ryan Philpe, and all of the guys. And we used to do Thursday nights together with them. I remember they would always drink Hennessy.

First time I've ever had Hennessy. That's what they liked as their bottle service. And she was like, did you ever hook up with Ryan? And I just like gave her a look. I was like, no, I'm just kidding. I go, we did have one sleepover. Literally like we were at a party late. I don't know if we were sharing a car going back home or whatever.

My place was closer and he was like, can I just crash here? And I was like, yeah, sure. And that was it. Always just friends. Ran into him here and there over the years. But I mean, this is also like 18 years ago, 17 years. I mean, it was forever. Do you think he got the alert though? Like do you think it popped up on his? Someone on his team probably did. It was so many. And he didn't text you?

No. I do have his number, but there's no way it's like the same number. Test it. But no, I'm not just random FaceTime. FaceTime. Hey, Ryan. No, I'm not. But I'm like, there's no way.

This was like 2008. There's no way he sells a single. It's currently single. I think I have like white pages. What's that? A reverse number. She wants to know if she's gonna check the number. Okay.

Okay, what, okay. When something like this comes out, do you get an earful from Brock? Like, what is this? Or is he more like, eh, that's your past? Oh, he doesn't care. He laughs at it. Okay. Although I just found out that when we first met,

he told me just as a way to be like, oh, well, I've slept with someone famous too. I'm not going to say the name of the singer, but it's a famous singer and he said he had slept with her sister. And up until recently, I just found out that was a lie. He goes, oh, honey, I was just kidding. He's like, I just made that up to try and be like, yeah, well, I slept with her sister. And up until recently, I just found out that was a lie. He goes, oh, honey, I was just kidding. He's like, I just made that up to try and be like, yeah, well, I slept with her sister.

And I was like, oh, good to know. Lies can be healthy. It can be like a white lie. Like, it's just fun. So speaking of which, that phone number comes back to a Matthew Ryan, is it Philippe or Philippe? Philippe. Is that his dad? I don't know. Who is Matthew Ryan? What do youa or Felipe? Philippi. Is that his dad?

I don't know. Who is Matthew Ryan? What do you mean? His name is Ryan. He dropped his first name. What are you guys talking about? Let's see Matthew. Is his first name Matthew?

Yes, that's all that means. Oh, it is? Hello? I didn't know that. I mean, unless his dad is still paying his phone bill, which is also fine. That is his name. Maybe they're on the family plan.

Which he says his name is Matthew Ryan. Wait, what? He still has the same number. His name is Matthew Ryan. Wait, what? He still has the same number. He didn't change it. Wild. I haven't changed it. Give it to us. We'll text him.

That's so funny. I mean, it makes sense. If you ever need a place to crash. I mean, I've had the same number for 20 years. I have too. I mean, literally. Where does he live and does he need a crash pad? I don't know.

I ran into Jesse Bradford too last year at Pandora's son's birthday party. I had no idea they were friends and I haven't seen him in probably 15 years. I was just like... Is he still acting? I don't know. He should be. Yeah, I don't know what happens to these people. Yeah, I feel like our kids are around the same age and I was just like, look at us. Yeah, look at us.

The things that can bring you together. You know, just show up to a good party that you know. You're like running into your people, open wounds. Yeah. You know? So recently I was at an event with Ashley Simpson Ross and Evan, and I've known Evan since the early Hollywood days too. And they're like, let's do a double date or something soon.

I was like, yeah, for sure. I was like, Ashley, I'll text you. And I'm like, wait, Evan, do you have the same number? And he goes, yeah, probably. He's like, I've had the same number forever. I'm like, I mean, me too. You know, like anyone I met in 2006, I still have the same phone number.

So, and I guess he does too. And clearly so does Matthew. There we go. By the way, Ashley's autobiography CD, and I guess he does too. And clearly so does Matthew. There we go. By the way, Ashley's autobiography CD is literally like my road trip CD. Me and my friend, Gracia. Iconic. It is our road trip CD.

Like if you told high school and college, Sheena, that one day, you know you're going to meet J.C. Shazay and hang out, be friends with Lance Bass, Ashley Simpson. Just so crazy. I could never... Well, that's like me. If you'd known I'd be doing a podcast with MJ. Right?

I'd be like, no way. I remember we met at the Tom Tom's party. Oh yes, at Schwartz and Sandy's, yeah. Yeah. There are also, because people seem to have such an issue with my name being Sheena Shay, but I did look up some other names. So it's funny that you said Ryan's real name is Matthew. Because there was this article I read recently that had a bunch of celebrities

who don't go by their legal name. And Reese Witherspoon also was one of them. What's her name? Laura Jean. Laura Jean Reese Witherspoon. Okay. She does have a Reese in it. Yeah. Uh-huh. And then Olivia Wilde is Olivia Cockburn.

Okay. Wilde is definitely more stagey. Yeah. But there's so many. Meghan Markle, her real name is Rachel. I mean, no wonder why she dropped it. She was like, yeah, Rachel's not a... But there's so many.

Jamie Foxx is Eric Bishop. And then there's the ones like Emma Stone. Her name is Emily Stone. That just changed it a little bit. They also do it because of... Demi Moore, Demetria. They say like Julia Roberts was really Julie Roberts, but she changed it to Julia because of the way you're registered in the guild.

Yeah. So... Yeah, it's weird that you can only have one person registered, like, in whatever, SAG or whatever. Well, that's why I just registered as Sheena Marie, because I always used that, which is my legal name, and I was Sheena Marie Janken. But Sheena Janken just didn't have the same ring, I felt like. So I went by Sheena Marie, and then when I got married, changed it to Sheena Shay, had that alliteration and that's now the name professionally. And so I'm like everyone just knows me as Sheena Shay. I could be

married to Brock for the rest of my life hopefully, but Sheena Davies I don't think is ever gonna click professionally. It's just, it's Sheena Shay. And even like with Demi Moore, that was her ex-husband from like the 80s. That was his last name. It just sticks. There's Tina Turner. Like there's so many people, you know? And it's like, Brock doesn't have an issue with it.

And even if I legally change my name one day, which is a hassle, I just feel like it's just always gonna be Sheena Shay. It is. It's always gonna be. I would say. Yeah. Like you said, Tina Turner. Do you think that she liked? I know she fucking hated her. I just feel like it's just always gonna be Shana Shea. It is. It's always gonna be. I would say. Yeah. Like you said, Tina Turner.

Do you think that she liked? I know she fucking hated her, but like she's Tina Turner and she gets to, she owned her name. She's like, it's my fucking name. Yeah. She's got the alliteration. Exactly. All right. To wrap things up, we're gonna do the Jack's Hole of the Week.

So did either of you see Lisa Vanderpump's recent appearance on Access Hollywood's Housewives Nightcap podcast? Yes, I did. One thing on that podcast was the host brought up Kristen's exciting pregnancy news and Lisa's response was, do we know who the dad is? What? Yes. So I just want to say like with all due respect that,

I mean it was kind of shady. Wait, Lisa said that? Yeah. And that's also unprofessional as- I mean not kind of shady, that is super shady. Super shady. But it's like, especially because Lisa is a producer on The Valley, like you know who Luke is.

You know, he's a cast member on the show. This season they get engaged and if you don't know who someone is on a show that you're producing, then why is your name in the credits as a producer? And then she had said like, oh, well, you know, I'm a producer on The Valley, but I'm not really involved. It's like then why it's just a paycheck, basically. So knowing the struggles that Kristen has openly shared, you know, on her path to becoming a mother

and her pregnancy loss and all of that, it's like, even if you don't like someone, it's just kind of distasteful on this topic of motherhood. So it's like, how hard is it to just say, I wish her the best? You know? And apparently it's too hard for LDP. Clearly.

Yeah. I just, I think that when certain things that you say to someone that you've already won, your LVP and your well wishes would mean so much to Kristen. And you just took that opportunity and squashed it. And I still can't figure out why she dislikes Kristen so much. I know they had beef, obviously, during the season, but I never understood why it carried on for this long, where she still has that much animosity towards her.

I feel like because Kristen has always stood up to her and has never just bowed down and been like, okay, Lisa is the boss and producer. Like, she's gonna tell her how she feels, whereas like, I'm gonna be nice and respectful and just like, yes ma'am, okay. You know, jump how high. Yeah.

Yeah, and you'll get a phone call if she needs you, whereas she would not call Kristen. Well, good for Kristen for standing up for her. Cause she's like, I'm not getting the call. So I might as well say what I think. You know, I think he is not calling me for anything, says Kristen. Well, thank you to my fellow silly bitches, Kiki and MJ, for getting into some shenanigans with me this week.

I hope everyone has a wonderful holiday. Be sure if you're not already to listen to Till the Dirt podcast and Reality Checked on Radio Andy every Monday. We'll be getting into some solo shenanigans next week and I can't wait to hear all of your questions you guys send in so comment below whatever you want to hear me talk about next week. Okay, bye. Thanks for listening to shenanigans with Sheena Shay. Tune in next time for juicy updates from the world of reality TV, pop culture, and more.

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