Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - Soft Launching Our Villain Era?

Episode Date: October 10, 2025

This week, Scheana is joined in the studio by Kiki Monique and Ryan Bailey for a chaotic, unfiltered episode of Hot Topics that covers everything from rapture déjà vu and astrologer affirmations to Bravo drama and game nights with Monica Lewinsky. Kiki gets emotional under the Super Moon, Summer Moon is late to school, and Ryan shares how he’s preparing for fatherhood.The trio dives into Scheana’s receipts from last BravoCon between RHOM’s Adriana and “Captain Cutie,” Tamra Judge’s unchecked chaos on RHOC, and Lisa Barlow’s checked power on RHOSLC. Plus, they break down Jax Taylor’s latest tall tale, how Brittany faced her biggest fear on Special Forces, and reveal an unknown connection between VPR and Mark Sanchez. Tune in to find out! Follow us: @scheana @scheananigans Co-Host: @thetalkofshame @sobaditsgoodwithryanbailey Purchase your very own copy of the NYT Best-selling book MY GOOD SIDE at www.mygoodsidebook.com!Episode Sponsors:Get 50% off your first online order at littlespoon.com/GOODASGOLD with code GOODASGOLD at checkout. Learn more and join using my link. Function is a near-360 view to see what’s happening in your body, and my first 1000 listeners get a $100 credit toward their membership. Visit www.functionhealth.com/GOODASGOLD or use gift code GOODASGOLD100 at sign-up to own your health.Shop at REVOLVE.com/GOODASGOLD and use code GOODASGOLD for 15% off your first order. #REVOLVEpartnerHead to Mood.com, browse their amazing selection of functional gummies, and find theperfect gummy for whatever you're dealing with. And remember to use promo codegoodasgoldat checkout to save 20% on your first order.Produced by Dear MediaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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We're putting it all on the table. From Vanderpump Rules to Motherhood and everywhere in between. Warm up the kettle, it's time to spill some tea. Let's get into some shenanigans with Sheena Shea. Because we're good as good. Because we're good as good. All righty. Hey guys. Welcome back. How are we feeling? Good. Wow. We've got a desk. We've got Kiki and Ryan back in the studio to get through hot topics that we didn't get through last time. And obviously I cut that episode short, but I wanted to have you back. Thank you. I know you still have stuff to say. Always have stuff to say. Always. Yeah. Did you get a amazing response from the.

The Baskin interview? I haven't really seen anything. So hopefully it was received well. I'm just happy that he came on and that the truth is out there. Yeah. You know, because I know people like to say how thirsty I am. You know. Anyway.

So, yeah, things have been good. How are you guys? Good. Yeah, a little early. Well, I was like impressed. I think the last time we recorded together, it was supposed to be rapture number one. And today is rapture number two.

So for some reason, the three of us get together, I don't know if we are Satan's babies. Most likely, but I knew they would rebrand the rapture at a certain point. And the rapture, of course, would wait for the Taylor Swift album to come out. And then the rapture happens. So wait, do they know a specific time today that it's supposed to happen? Just some time, I think. But, like, you know, I guess we have until the end of the day, technically.

A very special episode of shenanigans. Yeah. So should we just make this always a thing, like we podcast. together on potential rapture day. Folks, they have it on good authority. The three of them will be podcasting in a month. That could be rapture number three. I feel like a listener out there is in a comment that we're just like wanting to be

naked together or something. I don't want to be naked with anybody. Are you kidding me? Like, no, no, no naked, no. So there was all the rapture stuff online. But then from the brief TikTok I saw, they're saying that the new rapture date is because of the super moon we just had, which I think is. still tonight too.

Yeah. Yes. Did you guys do any moon rituals? I didn't do any moon rituals, but I did feel the energy of the moon in a bad way. Really? Really things were off. Like things were happening to you bad or personally you felt bad? Just like they're both.

Like I woke up with a flat tire, but I found out like five other people I knew had flat tires that day, which I don't know why, but I thought that was really weird. Yesterday you had a flat tire? This isn't the moon. Somebody is after you and these other four people. What did we tell? That's too much of a coincidence. Was it slashed?

It said Kiki, I know you personally. And then my energy, I don't know. I just felt like very emotional. I wanted to cry a lot. So I don't know. I cried yesterday. Yeah, but to be honest, how many days of the week do you cry, Sheena? Here's the thing.

You haven't. You're like, I'll tell you. Since I've optimized my Zoloft, I have genuinely not cried. When I saw you guys on the podcast the week before, Obviously, we cut a lot of that out out of respected. I don't want to kick someone when they were down. But that was the first time I had been emotional in a while. Really?

Yeah. And yesterday. My Zoloft as well, no joke. And I cried last night watching a clip of Jack Osborne talking about his dad, Ozzy Osbourne's final days. And he did like a- He did an ABC interview and or like, yeah, and it was just, it blew me away and I just thought like oh my god

I just remember watching that show for the first time and realizing like all families don't look the same but my god that was like a family that loved each other and I was like bawling oh well here let me play this little thing for you so obviously Allie is my resident astrologer but in my girly group chat last night my friend Christy sent this video and there's another astrologer out there.

How many people are in the girly group chat? It's just me, my friend Christy and Maddie. Oh, okay. So she sent this video. It's this girl, Amy DeMure on Instagram, and I was so into it. She got $25 out of me. I wanted the whole chart and everything. She got you.

Wow. She got me. But listen to this. On October 6th, October 7th, it is here to destroy your old life, usher in chaos, and completely flip your whole life upside down. This full moon is intense. It will create. massive unexpected waves that will

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sword, which is why everyone is losing it. You are releasing months of pent-up rage and emotional instability, and super full moons are all about destruction. You are destroying the person you once were, so that you can step into the most powerful version of yourself. This full moon is opening up a brand-new life era for you, one where you are free from emotional baggage, and how this new life plays out for you depends on the actions you decide to take over the next month. I'll be posting what you should and shouldn't do for this full super moon so that you can have a successful month long transformation. So make sure to follow. Wow. So she got me. 25 bucks. Oh, I followed. So I followed her. I watched her other videos that she did. And I did the entire

ritual. I did this meditation that had affirmations. And you write down everything. And I believe that there's another one tonight. So if tonight still this super full moon, you can do it again. But you write down all of these affirmations in present tense. I am filled with abundance of money, whatever like you want to say. You write all of these affirmations down. I had front and back. I was listening to all the ones she was saying. I was like, ooh, yep, yep, yep. And then you, I had a red candle lit. Then you burn it with the candle and you say a little ritual a thing. I was told not to make any big decisions in this two days. Really? Yeah, was that don't make any life altering decisions. And I don't know what's behind that, but I was just, I don't really focus on this stuff too much.

I usually just podcast. So I'm like, don't make any life altering decisions. And I was like, I can do that. That's fine. But that's saying that everybody in the world is going through insanity today. Well, I mean, I can believe that. It feels, but it feels like last, all of 20205, everybody's going through insanity. So today is even more special. Yeah, but it was crazy because yesterday when I saw this video, I was like, oh, I do feel some rage in me that I need to let go of. And I wrote down everything. And then you also say, like, I'm releasing what no longer serves me. It was in a different way. But you also write that down because you're burning, you're bringing with the fire, all of the things you want and you're burning what

you don't want and blah, blah, blah. She can explain it much better than I can. Did you make Brock do this as well? He sat outside with me for a bit. He didn't actually do the affirmations in stuff, but he enjoyed the meditation. Oh, did he? He doesn't seem like he's a woo-woo type. He's not, but he was like, wait, I love this for you, honey. And he sat out there with me for a bit, smoked a joint. I put my crystals out. I, you know, set a prayer and did my affirmations and all that under the full moon.

And I just took some deep breaths in. And I just released what and who no longer serves me. Wow. How many people were on that list? Yeah. Just one. But really, I woke up today. My sleep, because I have my aura ring now,

my readiness and my sleep was at 87, which is optimal. That's great. So I just felt good. We did oversleep, and Summer Moon was quite late for school today. Well. So is she up already and go, Mommy, I need to go to school? So she comes in our room when it's still dark. I don't know, 5 a.m. whatever time it was.

And then she hops in our bed. And my alarm went off at 6.40. And I open my eyes and I'm like, It's still dark out. We did talk about watching the sunrise this morning. I look over at her and she's just smiling in her sleep and looks so cute. And I'm like, no, we'll just cuddle. Didn't wake back up until school had already started.

I guess you released timeliness last night. But I'm like, clearly I needed it. My sleep was optimal. Yeah, good score. And I told her, I said, honey, at school right now, it's okay if you're late. But once we go to the next school and you're in kindergarten, we cannot do this. When she's like, mommy, that's on you. Like, that's not a summer moon thing.

That's a Sheena Shea thing. It's a Brock Davies thing. Okay? Because I'm like, get up. Come on. Come on. We got to go. We got to go.

School is cool. And he's like, we don't need to rush her. We don't need to start her day with stress. Oh, my God. Honey, school has started. We got to go. And so then he's like, you have your podcast. Don't worry.

I'll do our hair. And I'm like, he's like, I know how. And I'm like, okay. So it was already parted in her little two ponies from last night. And then I always have. to braid her hair because it's so long it gets tangled. So I'm like, we'll see how she looks when I pick her up. She's still at home right now. She's not at school. I'm sure she's at school by now. But I like the kid thing, like I love kids and like, you know, I don't want my own, but I do

like, I talk to my friends and just like, you know, her birthday is today. And her son really loves football. And like she found out today that they're going to have to like tell the kids that they're going to have to forfeit the rest of the season because some of the kids have quit and some of the kids like one kid got injured and so they don't have enough kids to finish the season and so she was like it's my birthday but she was like I'm only focused on how sad my kid is going to be when he gets back from school today when he finds out his sport that he loves the most he's not going to be able to play the last of the season she's like and I can't even focus on my birthday and I was like yeah I can't even focus on my birthday and I was like yeah I thought the kids like I thought the kids were on like steroids and had like kick people up I was like wow they just don't want to well I I mean, I feel like there's obviously so many head injuries with football. Like one of our players, McConkey, I guess his helmet, because he's a wide receiver, and that position is more likely to get hit, he has a larger helmet that Brock told me this. And so now when I'm at the games and I'm like, is McConkey's helmet a little bigger? It does look a little bigger.

But I guess some players are starting to do that now to have extra padding. And some of the schools that we're looking at right now for summer, they don't even have football anymore. Oh, really? It's like, because that was the NFL's fear. really is this CTE, like that conversation coming into the public discourse so much that it would affect kids wanting to play the sport. Well, yeah. And so we went to a pep rally the other night for we're looking at so many schools. So we're trying to go to all of the events for all of the schools. Every school has homecoming right now. I had my high school reach out to me to ask if I could

do a social media takeover for the homecoming game this Friday. Oh, you had to have loved that. I loved it, but I'm like, I have to go to the school. We're declaring our number one to their homecoming game to show face to just be a part of the community. So I'm like, I can't do this one, but I said maybe in a couple weeks. I can do that because I love going back. High school football games are so fun. But also, if I had a son, don't know that I would want him playing football. Yeah.

Yeah. It's scary. It's a lot to put yourself through, especially when you're not even sure if they're going to become a star. Like, right? How many people ride the bench and. make decent money but you know like they remember really injured and it's kind of like I remember playing

junior high football and I was still like that weird pop culture kid even at that age and I remember there was like two time a day practices and I really just I was like wait I just I'm supposed to run at this guy and hit him like I was too sensitive to that I was like this is insane like what are we even doing here like that was the thing is like one guy

runs and you just hit him as hard as you can which I know people like did you see that movie him yeah everyone was calling it a Jordan film movie but it was really a Jordan Peel production is a different director and I know people have mixed reviews I first of all it's gorgeous like the cinematography is amazing but I

like just love the story behind it because when you just I read into sort of like the NFL and sort of like what you do to kind of I would say sell your soul to be a part of this league and I don't know I really enjoyed that aspect of it yeah the last 10 minutes I say like threw me off a little bit

but up until that point I was really no it's like the guy's a music video director so it's like it looks stunning. Yeah. Selling your soul for football. You know, people do that for other things too. I mean, reality TV, everything. Yeah. No, seriously. Wait, is this your fifth year in L.A.? Your anniversary? It was. Bucketless items. I did, I did five things. What did you do? I started the day at the Beverly Hills Hotel, which I'd done a whole day there, but I'd never been to like the fountain coffee room. So I had a Bloody Mary there. Then went and had a $27 bloody Mary? It was. It was like $30.

Then went over, there is this place called Mickey Fine Pharmacy. Yep, I've been there. So everyone said they have the best tune amount. I had never had a tune amount. Oh, wow. So I was like, okay, I'm going to have a tune amount at Mickey Fine. Then we went to Bel Air Hotel, had a cocktail there, very nice. Then went to, what's that steakhouse on Hollywood Boulevard?

Oh, Muso and Franks. Yes, Muso is the best. Oh, yes. I used to live right there. Did you have a martini? Had a martini at Musso and Franks. And on the way to Musso and Franks, we had just parked because I was like, oh, I've never stood on a star in Hollywood, Hollywood Walk of Fame. I was like, I'll do that. I get out of the car. Who's there? Andy Cohen.

No. The perfect star, he's right across. Sadly, I actually went to him getting his star on the Walk of Fame. I went by myself. Sadly, that's cute. I mean, it was just like this older guy in a crowd going like, yay. John Mayer was there and BJ Noback. He was star studded, you know?

Speaking of John Mayer, he was at a Rise Festival this weekend. Oh, my God, you went to that. Were you with? Well, not to John Mayer. But did you go on Friday night, the disaster night? Of course I did. Explain to the audience how, like, because I was watching TikToks on weekend about the Friday night.

It was not good, you guys. Everyone's like, how was Vegas? And naturally, like, when you go to the doctor and they say, how are you, you say good? And they're like, oh, is Vegas fun? I'm like, so fun. I'm like, no, no, no. Last week Vegas was fun. The week before Vegas was fun.

This week Vegas? No, no, not fun. The dust. It was so bad. So we all had, you know, like the scarf coverings and all. of that. But after a couple hours, it was not dying down. And I'm like, we can't have summer breathing this, you know? Like her face was covered. Well, you brought summer too. Yes. We had her and her little cousin. She's a huge Rufus DeSoul fan. Well, she's a huge tangled fan and the

lanterns going up. Oh, yeah, yeah. Because that's the whole thing to the audience. They do all these lanterns that go into the air. And we've done this every year since she was born. I brought her when she was like six months old and every year since. So she was so excited. for this we get there and we're like oh they're saying like oh it might not happen because of the wind but they're saying if the winds die at 7 p.m like they're planning on or like the forecast said then we could probably do them so we get there early and it just was not letting up not letting up it felt like it was getting worse we built a fort for summer of pillows from the couches in like the VIP area so it was blocking the wind and her and cousin I mean they were having fun

They're like in the fort and they're protected from all of that. But then after a while, I was just like, we can't do this. And so Brock was like, look, I'm going to drive the girls back to the hotel. He's like, you stay. I know you really want to see Rufus. I've got this. I'm like, okay. Were you with more people or just?

Yeah. So we were with my sister's boyfriend, Justice, his entire family. Okay. His mom passed away last year. And this was something that we always did as a family for his birthday. His birthday's tomorrow. And so this was the thing. the family always did. And since she passed, last year, rise didn't happen. So this year was just

going to be just so emotional and magical and just, you know, for her. And so when we weren't doing any lanterns, it's like, well, what are we doing here then, you know? So his dad and my mom and Brock went back with the girls to the hotel and we're like, okay, we're going to do it. We're going to see Rufus. We didn't even last for Ben Bomer. I was like, you know what? No, it was so bad. And I'm like, I love Rufus. I've seen them many times. I know I will see them again. But we just got to get out of here.

I was hungry. It was like, well, yeah, because your mom was, because I was posting this in my stories and your mom was like, yeah,

we were there. And I think like, I saw people fighting for sliders in the VIP era. And they had paid like $1,300 for those tickets. And I was like, I'm not fighting for a slider if I paid $1,300. You guys, it was wild. Yeah.

Well, then I heard Saturday and Sunday were much better because the weather was better. Exactly. So I'm watching it and I'm like, you. I'm like looking at all these beautiful lanterns releasing on Saturday and then Sunday. This is good because you're training Summer Moon for Coachella eventually. Right. It's like baby steps.

Oh, my God. Yeah. So wait, I also saw, did you, do you hang out with Monica Lewinsky? Well, not. I mean, I wish I would love to hang out. But I did go. So Emily Simpson. Right.

She was hosting this event over in, I was going to say Brooklyn. Oh my God. I thought I was in New York for a second. Hop, skip, and a jump. In Eagle Rock, it's like the Brooklyn novella. Same, same. Over an Eagle Rock for the twisted tale of Amanda Knox. And so she invited me.

And so, yeah, Monica Lewinsky is an executive producer on the show. And so they were all speaking afterwards. And it was like so amazing. But the part that really choked me up is like they were asking sort of like the takeaways. And Monica Lewinsky got choked up and started crying because she was still emotional over what happened to her. Because we were talking about what happens to young. women in the media when they've just been put upon and the media is just trying to sell headlines and the narratives out there and you can't shift it and she was like and people don't realize it's not

just you it's also like they don't realize what happens to your family right and the fallout to your family and that they can't get away with and she was literally started crying and the fact that this happened what 20 25 years ago yeah she's still emotional it was like it sent me into like I my ex used to work with her brother Mike Mike Lewinsky and so we would do game nights with Monica. And I remember the first night, you know, being nervous because it was like this is kind of a cultural icon. But then you have to imagine for her, it's nerve-wracking to go into any new room. And we ended up playing a game. And one of the games, it was like, it was, she was the answer. It was like, what person? I swear to God. And she made a joke about a very funny joke

about it. But like, imagine playing a game and you are part of this game. And she's just a fantastic person. She was the nicest person, but she would even talk about, like, she had to move to one apartment at some point because people would follow her home. Wow. Like, that was what she was living in constantly. And so to see her thrive in this moment, you know, and I think she's going to continue to rise and, like, be involved in, like, huge projects like this is awesome. Wow. Good for her. I mean, yeah, just the name alone is so infamous.

Yeah. It's like everyone knows who Monica Lewinsky is. But most people, you know, those happen in pop culture so much, but those people fall. all away. Yeah. And she has managed to really have a foothold and really have something to say of substance in this year. Well, that's why I was so shocked because I never thought about the parallels of Amanda Knoxman and Monica Lewinsky. Yeah. It wasn't like Monica was charged with like a cry, right? But they really are. They lived parallel lives in the same way where it's like young women just got thrown out there and their names will be infamous till the end of time. Yeah.

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All right. Ryan, how is prepping for baby going? Yeah, it's insane. Like, I get scared, more scared every day. And she is like, you know, the belly is bellying,

which mine, not hers. No, no, hers is getting, like it's really, she's finally past the point of, like, she was getting really sick. How many weeks is she at?

So we're now in, like the second week of the second trimester. Okay. Yeah. So we're still early. But I think that really rocked her to a point where it was like, I mean, I don't want to speak for her, but depression. It was just like, whoa, this is really insane.

Yeah. But now we're having conversations about talking to the belly and should we buy this machine to put little headphones on there. And then I was like, do I play the podcast? Is that going to keep the big? It's like that baby's going to stay in. Yeah, that baby's going to stay in. Like, I'm good.

I hear what's going on out there. No, it is interesting, all the conversations that you have. and how many things, or even just when you were talking about getting ready for school of how many things that I was. So many steps. Yeah, I was telling the audience. I was like, I don't know what even this podcast looks like next year. I don't know how all of this plays out.

And I mean, it's, I never thought that this would be possible. You know, like I had given up on this dream like 10 years ago. So it's really amazing. We'll see how it goes. But every day is a new challenge, you know. But she's doing the, I mean, like, her, that's insanely amazing. Have you talked about, like, the type of baby shower, is it going to be like a typical baby shower or like co-ed? I think it's co-ed because we're older.

But I mean, yeah, that is getting planned. I think it's, I mean, we're aiming for like January or February. But then it's really weird too because they're like, we're working on the baby registry. And, you know, people over like Jeff Lewis, those listeners are like, let's buy you something. I'm like, no, no, no. And Jeff's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And, like, I don't know. Take it all.

Take all the free stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely do it. But you do realize the insane amount of stuff that you need. It's crazy. And then even the space that we're in, we're like, oh, gosh, we've got to upgrade the space. And we've got, there's just a lot of things that go into all this.

And then you just got to keep upgrading because they keep getting more stuff and more stuff and need more room. I'm like. I had an internal panic attack when you were talking about visiting like preschools. I was like, wait, wait, what preschools? Yes. Well, same as Jeff Lewis, like, we have the best preschool for you. But isn't there a whole audition process that you have to do? There is, but when you have someone like him calling on your behalf and now you'll have me as well, you'll be fine.

And I mean, it really is a magical little preschool. Are you already looking at colleges? How does this work? Yeah, Ivy League only. Wait, are you joking? Okay, I was like, oh, man, that was a joke. Please don't say that something I have to do. No, no.

Brock, he, it's so funny. He's never been to Austin, Texas, never once in his life. But he wants Summer to be a longhorn. He wants to eventually move to Austin, Texas. What movie did this man see that? I don't know. The fact that there's Summer Moon coffees there is like, we could franchise one. Watch his varsity blues once.

And now that's, now he wants her to be a longhorn. So he talks about that more as a joke. But no, honestly, by the time she's out of high school, Like, who knows what she's going to want to do with life? Who knows if she's going to even need to go to college? Who knows what college is even going to look like at that point? Exactly. Like, I mean, they're doing everything in their, yeah.

And I like the European way of life. Like, I think if kids start expressing interests and stuff, like, being able to put them. Yeah. Like, not everyone has to be an Ivy League. Maybe people want to be more doing more technically proficient things or, like, they want to be a chef or, like, look, we need more plumbers. Like, you know what I'm saying? I know he sounds crazy. You'll be the best plumber that you would possibly.

I just think that, like, if they express an interest in something, like, push it. Well, that's the thing, too, is that, like, what activities do you get your child into that you know you're not pushing them and they actually love it and acclimate it to me? You do all of them and you see what they thrive in and what they enjoy doing. Like summer today, she has after school art. This kid is a freaking artist. It is insane. We put on this YouTube video the other day, and it was like, easy drawings for four-year-olds. She sits down.

She did this for an hour and a half. She sits down, and whether she's painting, she was watching these YouTube videos and doing, like, the tracing, the coloring should pause it. And she's like, okay, I need to do that. Like, it was insane. I went to football the other day and Brock just had art day. I got to stop you. I'll give you $50 for one of those. I need a summer moon or anything.

No, I'm going to go. If she's a little summer moon signature, that goes to my museum, that would be. Oh, wait, do you have a summer moon tattoo? Did she have she done? Oh, yeah, this one. She drew that. See, I'm not going to do the tattoo, but if I could get a dry, uh, these would be big. Bravo con. I'm telling you.

Summerton Originals. We'll give you a Summerman original. I'll have her sign it. Yeah. I love it. Sadly, I'm not joking. Yeah. And then when we announced the baby name here, I'll have her write the baby's name on it too.

Oh my God. Well, I'll explain to my daughter one day how blessed she was that she was blessed by Summer Moon. I love it. Okay. So moving on to the real hot topics. Real Housewives of Miami. Oh, my God.

Julia and Adriana. So there's a lot going on with the Bravo fan this week. But I have to admit, I've never watched Miami. I know. For shame. You guys, there are so many Housewives franchises. Ryan, you will learn once you have a kid, it's not as easy to watch so much TV. You watch TV when the kid sleeps.

What will your podcast? It'll be a lot of sleepless nights because you only have time to watch TV after they're, like, in bed for the night. Yeah. When the first year, they're still on two, three naps a day. That's great. But then once they start dropping the third nap, the second nap, and then they drop the nap all together. I know, right. The fear.

Wait, wait, wait, what about TV? Yeah. So I'm in on Salt Lake and O.C. I cannot do another right now until Beverly Hills. It's too many. I would make the argument for the audience. And no offense to Kiki is that I, you know, I cover OC religiously on the show. I wish I had covered my name.

religiously on the show, I feel OC is pivoted where I'm like, if you're going to go to that Katie Storyland, stick with the Katie storyline. Like, I really, them fumbling in the dark and Tamara quitting every episode isn't dynamic. But Miami to me is dynamic in a sense that reminds me of old school house. Oh, yeah. Ah, okay. I'm enjoying it very much. Yeah, it's enjoyable.

That's what it should be. It was off air for a while, right? And then was it rebooted or was it some of the OGs and then some new? Mix. Yeah. Like Larza came back and Adriana came back, Marisol, Alexia. So it's Audriana, not Adriana. I think it's, I don't know.

I hear it both ways. Okay, good, because I had to go back in my text messages from two Bravo Cuns ago. Oh, yeah, you guys are in a... I forgot. Watch what happens live. Tamara and Adriana, Adriana said that they're going to come after you at Bravo Cone. So I'm glad that at least you watch the show and you don't even know her fucking name, okay? No, I'm best, I'm bad with names, Shauna.

I'm so bad. I don't, I just... So, I go. I go back in my text from two years ago to see what exactly I said to Captain Jason just because I think everyone should know I always come with receipts. They like learn it. So I go back in my text and all I said to him was, wow, you were a hot topic tonight, L-O-L. And then he was like, wait, what do you mean? And I said, Audrionic, because I didn't know her name and I said like A-U-D. I said an Ashley. Ha-ha. Like Ashley Darby.

that was it. That was all I said. So for her to be claiming that I was in the bus, like texting him, this, that, and the other. No, I just said you were a hot topic tonight. Ha ha. And then he was like, oh, should we go to the bar that we were at last night for drinks? Like da-da-da-da. That was our conversation. I've got all the screenshots. That Captain Jason got you in a lot of trouble at Bravo Con. Yeah. By the way, BravoCon last time with Captain Jason, it was just like every panel like ladies talking about how much they wanted Captain Jason. Yeah. And at the time, I was trying to sat him up with one of my friends.

Which one? Well, I, Lala, first of all, but then it moved on to Ashley Darby because I knew she was genuinely interested in him. And I did make that connection work. And they danced the night together. I've got it on video. They did. Wow, you have that on video? I do have it on video. Dang. Received. Received. You know what? I did post it, but no one was probably paying attention to who was on the dance floor. Which, by the way, you guys did this great clip where you talked about you want to do the We Are the World Christmas thing. with the Bravo Lebrides. Sorry, screw Bravo.

Just take flipping recorders to BravoCon. You guys corner Bravo Lebrides. Just have them sing a line into a recorder and put it together yourself in the edit. I was thinking about that for the last month. I was like, you could just pull people. I mean, it's not going to sound like the best audio quality, but you can fidget with it.

Yeah. I do think that's a good idea. Yeah, just be like, because everybody's going to be partying and stuff. They'll be in a good mood. Yeah. And then just see what comes with it. Yeah.

Okay. Not now. But back to the mind. Miami girls. So I saw this reunion clip of Julia revealing that she and Adriana, Audriana, whatever, had slept together. It's like some of these franchises are accused of not having real drama, but Miami. Oh my gosh. So did this surprise you both as loyal viewers? Yeah. I did not think that that was going to come out. Or did you know already? Well, see, I had guessed from like, there were like six things. My guess was that

it was something like that but that's just because if you would watch earlier seasons they were like friend friends like we're going to have friendship parties and we're the best friends and so this season was so drastically different like a me and Ariana back in the day

or like a there was a there's a sexuality with Julia that I think and Adriana Adriana leads with that as well and there's always been kind of rumors about Julia making out with this person or that person or whatever so it didn't shock me what shocked me was like it was like the perfect edit coming out in the last 30 seconds of the episode and the fact

that it actually came out at all like it didn't surprise me it happened it surprised me that it was revealed on a reunion and that everybody including Andy seemed genuinely surprised so for me that's what I loved and was surprised me yeah have you gone back because they said they hooked up in the Hamptons have you gone back and watched the Hampton

I remember that episode I haven't gone back and watched but yeah that's definitely there and then in this week's episode in the preview it says Julie's like and we also fooled around at the Versace mentioned so that's potentially more. And then Lisa Hawstein tell us, Adriana, were you guys scissoring? And she's using this like, I swear to God, I swear to God.

So like already that reunion was good. And then it just like amped up at the end completely. I can't wait to watch. Okay. I need to watch just that in its entirety because I only saw a small clip. It's such a quick moment that moment. Okay. Wow.

So BravoCon is going to be very interesting. I would say so for sure. Sure. Are you, when going into these things and there's a lot of heat on you from various Bravo liberties, what is your overall? I don't know. I might not go. I'm just kidding. Oh, wow. It's like, no, you're going to go. No, I'm just kidding. I don't know. I'm just going to be prepared for whatever comes at me, you know? Fuck it. Yeah. I've got receipts. I know my truth. But then they have the watch what happens live or the Bravo shows. And they've already, you know, Tamara teased the squash the beef thing. Do we know if that actually is going to happen? because that seems obvious to me at this point. I don't know if they do squash the beef at every watch what happens live. I don't remember how it was before. I think last time I did two nights.

One was I was the only non-housewife there. I felt very cool that night. I was looking around. I'm like, there's no other non-housewives. It was this like show girls, watch what happens live. But I don't know if they did squash the beef there. I don't know. I'm just going to be prepared for...

it at any moment in time because, I mean, these Bravo checks are, you know, unpredictable. Did you say Bravo Checks or Bravo chicks? And I was like, the pay is up and down, I would imagine. Bravo, girlies. What are our thoughts on Salt Lake right now?

The Lisa Barlow of it all. We've got to... I love it. I mean, I was surprised that the audience seems to be turning against Lisa because I thought I thought for sure she was a fan favorite, but they seemed to be backing up Bronwyn. So I'm interested to see if the tides turn. because, you know, we are, they're going to start coming for Bronwyn soon and pulling out

the receipts on her. Because Bronwyn has things in her past that come out, you know, anybody on these shows have things in their past. Like, anybody's ignorant if you don't think they do. But I thought, yeah, it was completely, when Bronwyn is able to argue clearly, Lisa just goes for like, out Dick Sucker and you're a pig. So it works. I'm saying, you can't have one without the other.

And this was my point about OC as well, is that if you have Tamara be the Lisa Barlow character, you need a Bronwyn type to come at Tamara. And none of those ladies, even if they are able to seem, they seem exhausted by Tamara. So they are not willing to step up and play the Bronwyn role. So Tamara is left unchecked.

And it really is a very taxing experience to watch. I'm not, you know, like there's no offense to Tamara because it's not her, she's always been like this. But Lisa, at least you have Bronwyn. So to me,

that's when those scenes really pop off. And Lisa seems actually flustered and on the ropes. But I do love Lisa Barlow. I just never. agree with, you know, her, her actions. That's not how I would be, but she's, she's, she's undeniable and she's an essential part of Salt Lake.

Well, no, because, like, there's a certain type of delusion I need in my housewife. And there's also a certain, like, and I know this sounds weird, if you're going to be a liar, be a liar. I know we're going to get a Potomac, but, like, Stacey for me, right? She's the perfect level of delusion and liar because it's like, you got to take it in that direction. And for me, like, why I love Lisa's level of delusion is like, for instance, when she was talking about, like, I know these people.

I know these people. And they were like, you know, I think she said new kids on the block. And she was like, I don't watch what happens live. She posted a video of her singing at the new kids concert to prove that she was at the new kids concert. And she was like, okay, well, I don't know if the means you know them. No. Like to me, she's name dropping Steve Correll and stuff like that. And I'm like, you don't think Steve's like, Lisa, how are you?

It's your good friend Steve Carrell. And then her business, which is still so confusing to me, she'll just be like, flip the table around. Perfect. Yeah. I'm like, that sounds like an easy job. I love it. She lives a very different life, Ryan, from all the other ladies. She's a Sagittarius, which I understand her in that way.

Oh, my God. Just imagine what she's going through today, the emotional of people. See, I'm a Sagittarius moon. But I've always felt drawn to Lisa, even before. Because I didn't watch Salt Lake religiously the first few seasons. I've gone in and out and then last season fully dialed in. Or it was the season before I started watching the reunion. Then I'm like, okay, I'm just going backwards.

Let's just go forwards if I have time in my life to watch the first few. seasons, I will. But there's something about Lisa, just when I've met her and stuff, that reminds me of myself in ways, not necessarily like the best ways, you know, just like those cringe moments that are just the quintessential Shina moments. I feel like there are some similarities. She's just like the way rich, bougie version. Yeah. I remember I was lucky enough to go to this direct TV holiday party at Kathy Hilton's and like, oh yeah. And Lisa Barlow was like the host of it. And she sang last Christmas with Kathy Hilton. And I was like, those moments are just like, oh, this is potentially one of the better moments of my life. But it's like, last Christmas you gave.

And Kathy's like, I thought you were Kyle. Like it was so funny. But also Lisa, like I love that kind of delude. It's like Countess Luanna-esque where, you know, people are just like throwing love at her. And she's accepting it like, you know, what up, queen? Like, oh my God, thank you. And she has a team of people around her. And I love that kind of unabashed celebrity that she leans into because not everybody can do that. You know, like there would be, I would stop myself because I would be, oh, there's a cringe factor to this. She does not have those breakers on me. And I love that. I love that for her.

Well, I noticed she stopped posting on Twitter as much because they've used her tweets on these episodes, like a handful of times. And then I went purple. I don't go on Twitter much anymore, but I went on this past week just to see if she was getting into it with people like she used to. And it was relatively quiet. So I was like, ooh, did she learn? Well, I always wonder if people's teams are doing these things and sometimes either they have team turnover or she's just like, oh, we maybe need to cut this out because it's not going the way. Or it's your team scolding you saying to stop tweeting. That's why I'm not on Twitter anymore.

I can't be trusted. Really? Oh, yeah. I used to like, here's the thing. It's like I do try to stay out of the comment section for my mental health just because I don't need to see how much people still hate me. It doesn't do anything for me. it doesn't affect me to the point where like I don't cry when I see mean comments. I'm just like, that's inaccurate or I can see where you're coming from.

But I try not to do that. But back in the day, I would be on Twitter and I would be firing back so much that I realized then I wasn't responding to positive comments. And it just became a place where I was having fun clapping back at people. But I'm like, you know what? How about now I try and shift that and I comment back to the positive ones more, the people who genuinely care about me and aren't here to just be a hater. So I do enjoy a little bit of a clapback. But then, you know, your team comes in and they're like, Sheena, stay out of the comment

section. Delete that. And I'm like, but can I say this? I wouldn't if I were you. I'm like, but please. This would be so great if I could say this. Yeah. So it's just, it's so easy to like clap back. But then, you know, it does take some strength to just hold back and be like, you know what? I am taking the high road. So what is gout dick? Do we know the like urban dictionary definition? Well, I had to even look up what gout was first. Isn't it a foot thing? Well, no. Well, that it does affect. I mean, it's like when you abuse meats and like liquor like beer. Abuse what? Abuse like heavy meats. Oh, meat. Yeah, it'll, it'll. And something about like, I think like, you get pain from like in your, I don't think it's like aching like around like, but it commonly is happens in your foot.

It has, unfortunately, they have pictures of it, unfortunately, and it's not, you know, so if you look it up, you'll see a picture immediately and it's going to change your life. I think it's attributed to a bad diet and lifestyle, really, is what causes. It can cause gout. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, okay. But regardless, it's a genius thing to come up with. And that's why I always wonder, like, was she practicing these in the mirror?

Like, you know, or did gout dick just come off the top of your dome, which to me makes you even more legendary. Well, I think it's like something she said behind closed doors. And then in that moment, it just came. out of her little bit of remember had that amazing hot mic moment of like she fucks everybody in New York oh my god her kids are fucking fake like it was so good yeah like it's in her head but like she didn't i don't know if she was going to ever say it to her face but in that moment she had no choice i love the hot mic moments it's like you guys we've been doing this long enough even if you're still kind of you're wearing a microphone you can't not feel the microphone that's what that's what

frustrates me sometimes about all reality shows when you get those hot mic moments because you're sitting there going like they know they like even their walkouts well they have to be unmiked by the crew like they can't just go home with the mic on no sometimes they will put you in a car because they do want just like any audio and then it's like you're aware of that pull up like one foot and then you take the mic off i will say i mean i don't know for everyone what i'm saying in the moments where i've been miced up on my few occasions i've been left somewhere for a long time and usually there's one person around and so then obviously i don't want to sit there and talk to myself so then we start talking and then next thing I know I'm like getting like a oh I forgot the whole time I did have

a mic on and it's only because I've been left alone so right yeah I knew it was on but I forget about when you're in the middle of a scene and you walk off just because the camera's not pointed at you and you're not in the scene you're still miced well was there ever a point where you're like I got to say this and I don't want the audio to pick it up I'm going to turn on all the while like they do in spy films um so what we would do is like this and we're like kind of like rub it on our chest because then it's static and you can't really hear it. I never taught myself how to turn it off. I'm sure it was very simple and maybe just a little thing. But I was like, no, I'm not going to do that. If I feel like the need to say something, you're just like, but they still can

figure out what you're saying. Yeah. I mean, we rely on that. Yeah. Okay. How did you guys feel about Lisa's lawsuit party? He was very much giving Karen Hugar trying to explain why Ray's tax situation at the press conference with no press and scroll from last season again like what i loved in that scene was angie being willing to clap back at lisa being like okay you put your lawsuits but then you put this 30 year old photograph of you on a yacht or you know you from 100 feet away so we can't see it's from 30 years ago like and you so good at it too like it's yeah i mean they're there each one of those ladies are very essential and that party was just everything i want if you have like carrot top props if and your props are including like dismissed but you also include your

photo like that is amazing to me and the fact that she was still not willing to ask any direct questions and provide any substance is great and then you have this new socialite lady who I don't know if they're making a friend of or not but she keeps like just coming around where I'm like they're not making you pay for all this stuff are you yeah you had the waitress that was scared to take the order that was like a little flourish that I love and I can't wait like tonight a new episode, I look forward to watching that every week. Like to me, that is not work. Or even when I cover it on the show, that is not work. That is my time. I tell my husband it's work. I'm like, honey, I'll be downstairs on the couch for two hours. They've got to work. Yeah. It's just literally.

It's like the Potomac ladies. There were certain in the premiere this week, there were certain dialogue just even like, oh, I gave her a little Jackie O moment that Kay said. And I was like, these kind of flourishes of dialogue really impress me. You know, it's like, and Salt Lake has this in such a bizarre, wacky way. And so it has its own vibe, just like Potomac has its own vibe, but it still works. Yeah. I really wish I had time to watch all of them. I went over to Jasmine's last night.

She had Potomac on, and I was, and then she paused it. And I was like, wait, what was going to happen? Yeah, but, you go out, like, you go to an event every day of the week. I'm sitting there being scared. Like, I'll never go out. Like, I don't go out anyway, so I'm good. So do you guys have family in town? Like, are you going to need to get a nanny?

We'll probably have to get a nanny. Yeah, unfortunately. That's the big, like my mom passed away a couple years ago, and that's the killer. Like, she would have freaked the flip out and she would have been the best. Yeah. So that's like, you know, I'll probably use your mom and hopefully summer by the time she's up age. You can still live your life. You figure out the way to balance it.

My life is literally just podcasting, so I'm fine. Like, I'm not worried about my life. I just want to make sure I don't screw our daughter's life up, you know? We're all going to fuck our kids up in some way. We just try to do it as little as possible. But just yelling, yelling at your child, like, Daddy's watching Fanderpump Rules Season 6, pipe down. Season 6, please don't.

Sorry, I just pulled it out of my... Literally. I'm going to teach you about Scandiball right now. It was very intense time in your dad's life. He was very confused. Oh, okay. More Housewives news during an appearance at NYC's CultureCon, Portia Williams, revealed she is dating again, saying, of the people I'm talking to now, he is nice.

and she is nice. Pivot. We like this. I mean, I would like to, not that I need to see the proof, but I mean, Porsche is really good at drawing headline? So I'm like,

is she dating a man and woman? We're talking about it. We're talking about it. I'm literally in my paranoid phase right now where I think everything is a setup for attention. I think everything derives clicks, everything derives downloads. So I'm like, is this like, you know,

like I don't need to see it, but you know, maybe a makeout would be nice to see just to prove it. But whatever makes her happy. the bisexuality does not shock me like it might shock some people and maybe, you know, like I just said, yeah, sexuality is a spectrum. So that doesn't surprise me. It would surprise me if we actually get an actual storyline out of this. Right. So she had said, and this is a quote from

her, I really wanted to make sure these were normal people. And what I talked about with my therapist the other day was I'm having a hard time opening up because they're not narcissists. And guess what narcissists do? They love bomb you. They do everything to look. perfect, they mirror you. So I was like, that's interesting, you know, she's having a hard time opening up because they're not narcissists. But with doing therapy, I feel like it does sound like she's recognizing that, you know, and working through some of the patterns of toxicity that, you know, have been in the past. Well, more what came out of that for me was like, yeah, I mean, as a public figure, I can't even imagine how hard it is to date anyways, but then to date someone,

if you have never dated someone that's the same sex to go there to be that willing and vulnerable and trusting someone, I can't, I can't imagine it's easy. So that's more what I'm interested in finding. Like, how do you find these people? I mean, I guess I'm like, riot. By the end of the season, she's going to Indigo Girls concerts and Renee Rapp and, you know, like, this is my jam now. I mean, I had given up on men for a little bit.

Oh, yeah, your book, you talked about, yeah. So, I mean, it does happen. Yeah. And Dana said you guys have made out multiple times. We have. We have. Yeah. L.A.

Palm Springs. Coachella. World tour, yeah. World tour. So it's a thing like I made out with women. Never my friends though. Like it's, I don't know. I don't can't.

Yeah. Yeah. I feel like. Is that a reality show thing or is that a just? I don't know. I mean, when Dana and I minus the Coachella two years ago, the times that we did make out, it was gay pride. were drunk at like tom tom palm springs for the fourth of july at my house drunk like we were

never sober making out but also the first few times that we did like we weren't close friends we had just met so maybe that's what it was and then dd from the book i mean i literally met her and then that turned into something so it's not like oh i'm going to start making out with my friend now yeah yeah they were just the pity kisses for rickal sometimes still do talk right No. I mean, if I texted her, it was like her birthday this weekend, but I didn't reach out because I hadn't heard anything since the book. And then I'm like, I don't. Do you ever think about that though if like sliding doors moments of like if you had chosen to gone that way, what your life would look like? Oh, I think about that stuff all of the time. Like I named a chapter the butterfly effect. It's like had I not done this. Da da da da da da. Like it's crazy. Yeah. I mean, had I not met her, I might not have met Brock. If we want to go back that. that way because the night after the Kaboo music festival, we went to a club to see a friend of hers who invited us to the after party where I met Brock. Wow.

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Three. Yeah, I mean, it's got to be so frustrating for production. This time was in response to Emily and Heather voicing that they don't trust Tamara. I mean, it is what it is. You know, you are who you are. So it's like you want to be offended by that. But Tamara, look at your actions. That's the thing that's really difficult about reality as I'm learning.

It's like truth tellers don't fare well. Like Emily finally finding her voice saying, I'm going to say how I feel, which and doing it in a delicate way, mind you. Because it's like I did. This is on film. You're going to see it. So let me tell you this before you have to wait several months to see it. So this is what I said and this is why I said it.

And instead of being like, thank you for being a friend and being honest with me. I can't believe what you just said and walking off in her own house. And Heather essentially said that like Tamara can't regulate her emotions. You know, she's unpredictable. We all know this. We all see it. I cannot imagine being on a show with her. Well, I mean, I guess it would be similar to the show that I used to be on with some people.

Well, listen, I love that rumor about you on Orange County. I was going, like, in fact, I really sat with it for a second and was like, well, that could potentially work. Because we got the tamert thing. We got the Gretchen thing. Your friends with Shannon. I was like, I'm buying a beach house. I was like, I was really walking myself through this idea, getting used to it. But, like, unfortunately, like, I don't want.

any war with Tamara. I don't, you know, like, I, I appreciate her. She is in, like, a certain legendary status. But I will say, you know, she does a podcast talking about housewives and their patterns of behavior. And this pattern of behavior does nothing for the show. It annoys the audience. And then it makes me believe, why are you out there doing a press tour trying to get other people kicked up the show when it doesn't seem like you even want to be on the show when we see the show? Like, you quit. Like, no, I always think they need to find housewives, $5,000. every time they walk off. Like, because that's not,

and I'm not discounting Teddy Mellencamp. Obviously, that is tough, but we've seen on these shows, everybody is going through something. And I'm not, you know, I hate to compare anything, but like that's just the, she knows how the game is played.

And when she talks about other housewife shows, she realizes that. I just think it provides a distrust for the audience to her as a character where you're like, what are you providing? And at this point, the surrounding. cast do not penetrate her at all, so it's a very uneven viewing experience. And that's why it made

me miss the Katie Janella storyline, which I never thought I would say. I was like, let's get back to Katie. Well, you'll get back to the next week, I guess. Oh, you're back on? Well, no, I'm not. You see Tamara's sitting down to me. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That whole thing, I can't. See, Tamara's smart that way. She finds the direction of the ocean. Like, she will listen to things, read things, and she will pivot to the right move to make. And that was very smart. of her to go back to Katie because that's what's so cool about the audience is that they team up on Katie and the audience then respects Katie more. Like almost the silence and not being on the show has helped Katie. Yeah. Also this past weekend, Alexis Bellino and Johnny Jay got married. How do we

feel about that? I mean, look, I think that they really like each other, but I do question my whole thing is it's like, if Tamara really does want a relationship with Shannon, going to that wedding kind of ended it. I don't think that you're ever going to be friends again. How are you going to yell in the last episode about like, none of these girls support me. I'm like, you don't support these girls. Like the art of the housewife does, you know,

it includes being a hypocrite and Tamara is showing that in spades. If I was Shannon, like just on a personal level away from TV, that would hurt me to knowing from somebody that keeps saying, why won't you be my friend? Why won't you be my friend? But then every chance Tamara gets you throws Shannon. under the bus calling or an alcoholic. But listen, I mean, all kidding aside,

I hope they're happy, but I don't want to see them on the show. I don't need to see their love journey. I don't want that. Yeah. I love that Galena from McBee Dynasty was there. I love that they all share the same PR person. And so like Galena's there and Joe, who I like from OC. So I hope they're happy.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. I also hope that Alexis has something in writing that takes care of her financially if it doesn't work out, you know? I'd assume her alimony from Jim would. And now that she's remarried. I mean, here's the thing. I have never been married and received alimony.

But if I was someone that received a big, I don't know if she did. I'm assuming she received a big alimony, I would never want to get married. I would be the same track. I'd be like, I don't need to ever get married again. Exactly. Just be in a partnership. Alimony. Yeah.

We can date. You don't need to get married. It did seem like this happened quickly even though it was probably two years. But I'm like, oh, wow, they're married now. I mean, yeah. It's been a little less than two years. I feel like, because they started dating right after the last BravoCon, right? It was right around then.

Because it was like November of, yeah, whatever. Has anybody heard from Shannon, like in the last couple of days? I talked to her a few days ago. How is she? She's good. She was so sweet. She was checking in on me. Did she stay off?

I hope she stayed off the internet. I hope so. I always tell her to do that. But did you guys see on, it was like Radio Andy or something that Andy Cohen was interviewing Channing Tatum and asked him if he recalls ever being roommates with someone named Jacks or Jason Couchy who goes by Jacks now and Channing said

no recollection of ever having a roommate named Jacks Taylor or Jason Couchy didn't recognize his face. He said he was a good looking guy and he was like I mean maybe he was in one of those model houses like I got kicked out of or something. Yeah. So it was like

he did say maybe but y'all weren't roommates. You weren't like when it was Tom Tom, Tom and Jacks living at 5-5-1. You know, they weren't that kind of roommates. Well, it's got to be hard, like, the first time that we found out Jacks has lied about something. I know.

I mean, I know. He never does that. So that's wild. But, yeah, I mean, Jacks would tell these stories, you know, it's like, oh, yeah, I was roommates with Channing Tatum, da da da, da, da. You don't think that someday maybe Channing Tatum's going to be asked about you, like on Watch what happens live on radio Andy. You take those big swings.

Those are big swings. Like the Lindsay Lohan thing. Didn't he say he slept with? her? See, but isn't that still like, who knows if that actually, like, that's what's tricky. You're like, well, I love the one. I love the one that he said he was in Apocalyptic O2, the Mel Gibson movie. He directed him. There's not an Apocalypse O too, by the way, but he had said, like, yeah, I got cast an apocalyptic too. I remember watching him on Entertainment Tonight years and years and years ago, and he did some interviews. I was like, oh, wow, Jackson on Entertainment

tonight. And he said, like, you know, he was doing some film in Santa Clarita. And he was like, at this point, I'm set for life. So I just get to do fun little projects like this. And I remember thinking at the time, I was like, there's no way this guy is set for life. No. No. Did I ever tell you one of my guilty pleasures after Jacks got fired from Banderpump Rules?

He would go on Instagram live like all. Oh, yeah. I used to watch those. And like literally, I didn't miss one. I probably have screen recordings of all of them on my phone because they were the most delusional entertaining things ever. No, they were so good.

Rock and I would just sit there and we're like, hyping in. We're like, dude. Well, my favorite is going on cameo and seeing the Jackson's cameo because it would always do the same. I'm like, what's up, dude? Like, listen, I play a character, you know? Like, and I'm so different from that character.

You're not acting, bro. And, like, if you come to L.A., man, I'd love to have a shot with you and just come by the bar and we could kick it. Like, it would always be the same. Oh, yeah, and when he would turn, like, a birthday wish all into about him and all of a sudden he's telling stories about him. Like, wait, this is supposed to be someone's working with. Why are we hearing your stories?

So I do that sometimes to be funny on the cameos where I'm like, okay, so you're turning 40. No, I just turned 40, but it's not about me. This is about you. But they love when I do. do those. Well, it's like Sandoval coming into his. Like, what up, dude? Yeah. What's going on with him? Is America's got talent? Well, he's doing House of Villains and that's already filmed. So that should be coming out pretty soon. Yeah. Are we going to watch?

Yeah, of course. Yeah. Drita. Yeah. Heck yeah. Oh, I thought you said Audrina. I'm like, she's on that now too. By the way, would you ever do special forces? Hell to the no. Absolutely not. Rock would do it. Rock would do it. You're kind of in shape. No, you guys, like traders is as like physical activity as I think I could get on. a competition show. Because you're always working out. So I thought maybe you could compete at that level. The thing is like anything with water, if I have to be submerged in water, not going to

do it. Like just there, like I would jump out of a helicopter. I would do like the repelling down whatever mountain, but you are going to shove my head in water and, nope, that's where I draw the line. I will jump out of a plane. I will not put my head under water like that. So no, Brock wants to do it. He's like, put me in, Coach.

I think he would do really well. Not for me. Those shows are designed to be embarrassing for the person usually. I felt bad for Brittany. Yeah, I was watching just, I was actually, like, all joking is that, I was rooting for Britney. I was watching for Cody Brown from Sister Wives, but I was not rooting for him. I just wanted to stay on because I like watching him.

But I was rooting for her, so I was really bummed. And then. And I know she was too. But in your mind, too, you already like, oh, God, the memes and the day, you know, like, you know the route and you just feel bad. just to have that moment of in the beginning where she was like, my ex, texting, I wasn't going to last one.

That's what I hated so much for her. It was like, oh, I hate when it's like, you prove Jack's right, you know? Like that, that sucked. But it's like, at the end of the day, Brittany gave it her all. She has an extreme fear of heights. Like, literally, when we're at a hotel

that has like an embassy suites type, you know, where it has like the open, like balcony, whatever, when you're walking down the hallways. And it should be like on the back wall. Like, she doesn't want to look over. Anything. So as sad as I was that she went home in the first episode, I was so fucking proud of her for jumping out of that helicopter because that right there was her biggest fear. So it's like, you know, it was so much mentally physically. You're doing what you need to do to make money to provide for your kids. So I was like, Jacks, you better like hype her up. Yeah. I hate when he's like that. But the big thing that she said to me was how much they yell. And she was like, I couldn't do it. She goes, I realized after being in. an abusive relationship, I will never allow a man to yell at me again.

And so when they were just yelling, do it, do it. She was like, and I'm done. I'm done. And I was like, you know what, good for you. I'm sad as a viewer and your friend to see you go home so early. But like, you got the check. So, bye. So this season isn't going to be a GI Jane with Brittany where she shaves her head

and just trains her next season of special places? No, she got the mommy makeover day. Yeah, I was going to say, wait, can I say this? No, she posted it. Yeah. So she's recovering right now. I'm going to try and go over and visit her today. I tried yesterday and she was just so up and down.

But she's good. I'm so happy for her. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, to wrap things up, we've got the jacks hole of the week. Oh, wait. Am I allowed to ask, is there what?

Because I saw this video from Lala on Friday. You know, there's the back and forth right now between you and Lala. And I don't know if you're able or even want to speak on that because it seemed like she said like Sheena is sheenine and then revealed this conversation that you. you guys had, where you, you know, you cussed at her or she cussed at you. Is there more clarification for that? Are you guys good? No.

No. We're not. I'll just say this. I cannot imagine, I know where the sushi restaurant is that she goes to. In how quickly she called me after leaving school, I cannot imagine that she was at the sushi restaurant and parked in time to call me. And regardless, she knew my kid was in the car. So even if you're saying that you didn't cuss in front of your kid, my kid was in the car.

She sees your name pop up and she's like, oh, mommy, Lala's calling. And then just hears her screaming profanities at me. And yeah, so and also I did not say fucky bitch. Did she say she's going to F up your life if you? It was a lot of F bombs and a lot of screaming and I had to hang up on her. She kept calling back, calling back, texting me. and I'm like, she's like, you're not going to apologize. And I was like, you come at me like that.

You don't get an apology. And then I put my foot down. And from that moment, she realized that I'm not someone she can walk all over anymore. And our relationship changed after that. But you have so many mutual offense. Are there any intermediaries trying to broker a peace treaty at all? Maybe, but it's not going to happen. So.

Wow. Any final thoughts, Kiki? Is that the Jacksonville? I don't go back to the Jacksall. I may have. Could be, but I was going to give it to Mark Sanchez. Oh, okay. Yeah, okay.

So I saw the news over the weekend, you know, that he was stabbed. And immediately, I'm like, oh, my God. I mean, I was such a Mark Sanchez fan from SC to the Jets. He was like my crush back in the day. I, yeah. So when I saw that, I was shocked, just, you know, sending love. Oh, my God. And then the comments about how it's just getting increasingly unsafe for public

figures and then I just start to think, you know, there are moments where I'm out in public and I think, you know, especially if there's like no metal detectors or something, you're just out. And I'm like, at any point in time, someone could have a bomb. They could have a gun. They can have a knife. And so I just started thinking about that. Like, how scary. He's just like out with his friends for a night after work and get stabbed. That's terrifying. But then we got the news update that he had been arrested from the hospital. And I'm like, what the hell? That's confusing. So now details are rolling out, and it's alleged that Mark Sanchez attacked a 69-year-old delivery driver over a parking dispute. He was allegedly the aggressor, made physical contact with the driver who first tried pepper spray and then stabbed Mark with a knife.

So I feel like there are definitely some... Did you see the picture of this dude? Yeah. Like his whole, like... No, I didn't see that. I just read it. I didn't see the picture. Huge slash on the face into the tongue.

this is an older man, you know? Wait, he had a slash, the older man? Oh, yeah. So Mark took the knife and stabbed him, slashed him? What? I think even if you have a knife, sometimes if you're like, you don't know where's going, who knows what happens. And so I'm sure, like, when they finally get more statements and details, we'll hear more.

I mean, we're supposed to call the game that weekend and, you know. Well, actually today, well, Sanchez had to appear in court today, so we'll probably get more details today. Well, in the media at first, like you said, painted it as, like, you know, Mark Sanchez, like a robbery gone wrong, like almost painted in like a hero. Or he was targeted. And it's so interesting, like with everything, whether it be the Taylor Swift album or this, you got to sit with things. You got to wait until all the information comes out. And then because it's a whole different story. And then the victim's, you know, claims that allegedly smelled alcohol on Mark's breath too. So again, we don't even know what level of

right right next to a bar, I believe. And so one would maybe think that he was intoxicated. But I'm sure we're going to have because they charged him like the police charged him and then it always goes back to what we were talking about before the first question comes like does he have cTE has this is there something right that's i mean there is aggressive behavior that's obviously one of the signs but he has he has a he has a i mean so i'm very curious what he has to say but i think he said in a statement that he does not recall any of it wow do you guys want a little mark sancho's tea always he slept with someone from bander pump rules and it wasn't me Jacks Taylor. I'm not telling you. Anyways, thank you guys all for listening. Thank you, Kiki and

Ryan for joining me yet again. I always love when you guys are here. I'm literally trying to figure out. I'm sorry, I'm going through Vayner, but season one, season two. You can listen to Kiki weekdays on Radio Andy's reality check and find her at The Talk of Shame and listen to So Bad. It's Good podcast wherever you listen to your favorite podcast and follow Ryan at So Bad. It's good with Ryan Bailey. And if you haven't got my book yet, you can still get that at my goodsidebook.com. It's a New York Times bestseller. I know you've never heard me say that. I'm going to keep saying it. Thanks, guys. Thank you. All right. Bye. Thanks for listening to shenanigans with Sheena Shea. Tune in next time for juicy updates

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