Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - The Hot Mailman, Failed Matchmaking & A Big (Bravo) Pitch
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From Vanderpump rules to motherhood and everywhere in between, warm up the kettle.
It's time to spill some tea.
Let's get into some shenanigans with Sheena Shea.
All right, because we're good as gone.
Because we're good as God.
Because we're good as God.
Because we're good as God.
All right, everyone.
Welcome back for another week of shenanigans.
There were so many topics we didn't even get to last week.
We probably won't get to them all this week.
But I've got my girl Kiki here.
We have so much to talk about.
I know.
Okay, but first can we talk about the hot mailman who is blocking the
parking space outside. I wish I had seen him. I just like you talked about a mark talk.
Oh, you didn't see him? I didn't get to see him. Girl, this man, I'm like, you're delivering
mail. Do they have like good insurance benefits and stuff? Because he should be on like a
billboard. No, I'm going to start an only fans page for her. He reminded me when we lived in
Marina, very similar type, but we had the hottest trash man. And I was like, I swear the next week
when he comes, I'm going to ask him, are you single?
asking for a friend
because I was like
this man is La La La's type
I'm a girl's girl
Always looking out
I love it
That guy right
After he like walked away
I was like
Oh shoot I should have asked
I know
Well maybe we'll see him again
I mean this is his route right
Right I know
So maybe we just need to switch
To doing podcast here
Like right when I pull up
Mark is parked
There's a spot
And then there's the mail truck
Yeah
In the red
Yeah
But he was parked enough
That with my brand new car
And I have the automatic
Parallel Parking
Haven't tried that
They also said, do not try it on a busy street and practice first.
So I'm like, we're not going to tempt that out on Sunside Boulevard today.
So I try to reverse and I'm like, nope, nope, not fucking up my new rims.
I know how I am with parallel parking and I need a little bit more room with the SUV.
So I just like zoomed off and then it's all permit, permit, permit, permit.
And I'm like, so I pull back around.
He's just like, do to do delivering his packages.
And then he sees me sitting there and he comes up to the window.
I roll it down.
He's like, I'm so sorry.
Were you trying to park here?
I'm like, well, I was, he's like, you just, you zoomed off.
You could have just asked.
He goes, reaches his hand in my car to shake my hand.
He goes, especially you looking like that girl?
Oh my God.
If only.
Hi, yes.
Can I like buzz your contact on my phone?
Thank you.
So that's a good start to our day.
Also, wait, I have to ask you before we get into all of these things because I'm finally caught up on OC.
Oh, God.
Your name should be the drinking game of the episode.
Kiki Monique, Kiki Monique.
I'm like, at least A, they're using your full name.
So they're getting it out there.
I love that.
They did say you're a cool journalist.
You're not a regular journalist.
You're a cool journalist.
But what is that like for you now being on like the other side of it?
I don't like it.
Like I don't know how you do it honestly.
Like it's like the anxiety just sits at your throat like constantly.
And I can't even like TikTok, I would wake up and make my safe space.
I would just scroll for a few minutes.
And like I'm like every fourth video so that I'm like, oh, God.
terrible like I can't even imagine during scandible like what that was like I would have just like just
gone into hiding no it's crazy and even just recently just traveling and I mean book tour aside but
yet like for example we were at splash house this weekend and it wasn't actually that crazy
they told us they're like you know if you and it was me Lance Bass his husband Brock like if you guys
are coming and you don't have like cabana set up like you need to bring security it's going to be
crazy this year. And I'm like, I think we'll be fine. But then I'm like, I don't know. We don't
have an area to like kind of camp down. So my friend Kail was in town. And I was like, yeah,
we got an extra ticket. I was like, you want to just like act as security? We did not need security
at all. It was like so chill. No one bothering us at all. And so I was like, Kail, like let lose,
have fun. So he just ended up partying with us all night. But it was so much fun. There was this one girl,
though, who I see Michael, Lance's husband, put her on his shoulders. And I'm like, oh, okay. And
she's like looking around. And I guess they lost their friend who had her phone. This other girl
comes up. We were like taking videos of them. He was like, Michael's all having fun. And so Brock takes
a video and her friend comes over to him. And she's like, oh, can you send me that video? Like that's
probably a cute video. And he was like, yeah, do you have airdrop? And she's like, well, no, we're looking
for my phone right now
because my friend has it
and I'm trying to find him
that's why she's up on the shoulders
like looking in the crowd
and Brock's like
I'm not just gonna text you
and she's like getting pissed
and she comes up to me
and she's like he's not just gonna
I'm like we can air drop it
I have a video too
so then the girl comes down off
Michael's shoulders
she sees me
I mean jaw to the floor
her friend was so fucking confused
she's no idea who any of us are
not even Lance
Like it's fucking Gen Z girl
I guess no idea
Yeah
And so I think I posted that story
On my Instagram too
For those of you who have maybe seen it
But so she's just like
Like not saying a word
And I'm like hi do you want to give me a hug
Yeah
Speechless
Yeah
So then she's like
Can I get a photo with you
So I take a pick with her
And her friend is still standing there
Pissed it Brock
And then she looks
And she was like
He won't send me the video
And she's like
Do you know who they are?
And Brock's like, that's why I can't send her video.
And she's like, I want the video.
I was like, you're not getting it.
So we air dropped it to the other girl.
I posted it.
You have your moment.
But she didn't even realize whose shoulder she was on.
Exactly.
No, and that's so funny.
And you can't sound like an asshole and be like, yeah, I can't give you my phone number because I'm somebody.
Because then you're like, I don't know you.
You're nobody.
Give me the video.
And even if it's like, well, I'm married.
It's like, I'm not trying to do anything.
I just want the video.
It's like, I'm not giving you my phone number.
No, yeah.
But Brock has definitely.
learned his lesson.
Good.
And when he used to be much more friendly with stuff like that,
now he's just like a hard no.
Okay.
So I like that.
Smart man.
I'm being like,
I'm trying to be,
I'm going out more and I was actually met like a stranger last night.
But I love the hairdrop feature because it's like I took a picture because it was his
birthday and we were there eating alone and he was eating by himself.
And I was like,
I want to give you this happy birthday picture.
But I don't want you to have my phone number.
Not that you even know who I am.
But like, let's buzz it together.
And like, so yeah,
it's a good feature.
I've done that before, too.
There was this family at, I think it was Life is Beautiful, or one of the Vegas festivals.
And it was so cute.
It was a couple, and they had their kid there with the headphones on, but he was, like,
asleep in, like, one of the carriers.
And we're like, damn, good for them.
They're like, we're not missing the festival.
We'll just bring our kid.
And so we took a video of them.
We're like, wait, is this creepy?
And I'm like, what if, like, they know who we are?
And so we waited until, like, a few songs were over.
And then Brock went over.
And he's like, we just, like, enjoyed kind of watching your family.
And they're like, that was so sweet. Thank you.
And then the mom was like, oh, that's hilarious.
But, yeah, it's like, especially when I vlog, I am looking at things.
And it's like, sometimes I will capture a moment.
And I'm like, oh, you would want that.
Like, I would want that if it were me.
So just not getting our phone numbers.
No.
Oh, my God, I have to tell you.
I made a note of this.
It was so funny.
The other day, I was working out on the tonal in the garage.
And summer, little Brock's daughter.
I'm like, you are your father's daughter.
So I'm doing like inverted or whatever, like pushups on the bench.
Okay.
And she goes, Mommy, you need to put your back down more.
That's not how she's doing it.
Oh, my God.
I'm like, did this four-year-old just correct my form?
Are you kidding?
She puts her hand on my back.
She was like, this, mommy, look at her.
Wow.
Oh, I'm sorry.
And she goes, that's better.
Do it like that?
I was like, Rock, do you hear your daughter?
She is correcting my form in here.
She's in dance, though, right?
Yes.
So she, like, very much knows about form.
Yeah.
So she's like, no, you're doing it wrong.
But I'm like, there's no mirror.
And usually, like, if I'm in the gym, I can correct my own form.
But I can't see what I'm doing when I'm in the garage.
Well, now your daughter's your mirror.
So that's even better.
Seriously.
I know.
I thought that was so funny.
How was your weekend?
Did you do a solo date night?
I did.
I did a solo date night because I'm basically on staycation this week.
I'm not doing any live shows on Radio Andy.
Oh, nice.
And so I'm literally like, I want to.
my apartment, I've been wanting to
finalize it. Like, I started with my designer
and we got to a good place and then I like stopped
and I'm like, okay, and now I want to finish
it. So I'm like, I'm going to stay home and I'm taking myself
on dates. Trying to stay offline
basically. So yeah, there was
like a pizza place, pizzeria say
that's like Michelin rated. I've been wanting to try.
They had a spot for one.
Not two. One. See? Perfect.
So I was like, I'm going to take myself out.
Went out on a date and it was nice. I met a new friend.
You know, good. A girlfriend or
a guy friend? No, his name is Peter.
He was his birthday.
He was just eating there.
Oh, the one you aired up?
Wait, so you didn't become actual friends though because you didn't give him your number.
I did. We became Instagram friends.
But I dropped the phone.
That's where you started.
Exactly.
We're just like we're friends.
He seems cool.
And like, yeah.
If you're my ex-husband, you started on Twitter and then you exchanged phone numbers.
Have you ever done a solo movie?
Oh, all the time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I feel like it's funny because my mom, and I think maybe this is just like a generation thing.
But my mom used to see people when they would either be at the movies by themselves or eating at a restaurant by themselves and feel so bad for them.
Like, that's so sad.
They're by themselves.
And then it was like three, four years ago, whenever we were filming the season nine fake finale.
But we were in like Solvang.
And I think Brock and I had summer.
We were maybe doing something with Lisa, la, la, whatever.
And my mom was really hungry.
And I was like, cool, go to the cafe.
go get lunch and she's by myself.
Like, I could never. I'm like, mom, just get off your phone.
Just go and just like enjoy.
Yeah.
And she went and ate by herself and she's like, I've never done that in my life.
I'm like, I love doing that.
I do too.
It's one of the things I miss about living in Marina.
I had my mall that had BJs and a Target.
So I would just go by myself, like if the nanny would be over or whatever, summer was little
when we lived there.
Yeah.
But I would just take like an hour.
too to myself, go get a couple things at Target, sit down at the bar at BJs, have my salad,
have like sometimes a drink, sometimes in Arnold Palmer. But I'm like, mom, I enjoy that.
So like the people by themselves, yeah, maybe there are some who don't want to be. But for the
majority of it, like people enjoy time to themselves. Especially very, you're a very social person.
I consider myself relatively social. And so having those moments to just like decompress and not
have to like engage with someone or entertain with something. Like it's it's amazing time.
I mean, like all the crap I talked about and just like that, I will say like the ending of
it where she said, I'm not alone. I'm on my own. Like I really do feel that way. Like I'm on
my own, but I'm never alone. Right. I'm really not. That's a good point. Is there anything
you wouldn't do alone? You know, I used to travel alone, but I don't really think I would do
too much more of that only because I'm just, people are sketchy these days.
And I just don't, I get scared more easily than I used to.
So I don't, I don't think I would travel like overseas alone to certain places.
No, the world is scary.
Yeah.
Australia, though, no guns.
That would probably be a safe place to travel solo.
Yeah.
I almost went there solo.
And then Janet and my friend Courtney Berman hopped on the trip.
And that was so fun.
Yeah.
But it started out.
I was like, I booked a flight.
Yeah.
So I'm going.
Oh, yeah.
I used to do it all the time.
And, I mean, I was single.
So I was living dangerously.
I was like, I need a guy at a bar.
Oh, yeah.
You can come back.
to the hotel. Why not? Right? I would never. Oh my God. That time when we were in Australia
was a paparazzi guy who was like following us around. I don't know if Mark even knows this,
but he was hot. By the end of the trip, I was totally making out of him. Oh my God. And then there
was this bartender who was like the Australian version of Schwartz. And I'm not attracted to Schwartz in
that way. But he was so cute. Okay. That I made out with him.
him too. We get an accent. It made it cuter. Yeah. Yeah. Single Sheena in Australia. That was fun.
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Okay, so there was a blind item that suggested Melissa Dolores and Margaret are the only returning cast for season 15 of Real Housewives of.
of New Jersey. I don't know if that's true or not, but if it were, what do we think?
You know, I think that at the end of the day, Teresa Judice is part of the Bravo family. She will
forever and ever. And I think they will always find shows for her or whatever. And so she's
never leaving. So if she weren't a part of Jersey, it wouldn't be a big deal. However,
I could see how it would sting a little bit if she started a franchise that her now enemy
sister-in-law would take over. I could get how that would sting.
Yeah. See, when I was talking to Teresa of, I don't know, sometime last year, I feel like she had said that, like, her and Louie were splitting a lot of time in L.A. And so I could maybe see them eventually moving to L.A. You know, the kids are grown once they're all in college and stuff. So I wonder if that were the case and she moved to L.A., would they put her on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.
I just, I mean, I mean, I can't see that. I'm saying. I'm trying to see how she would.
It would be so chaotic.
Like it just, you know, it would be different.
It would be different.
I wonder if she'd be Beverly Hills or more O.C. though.
I know that sounds.
Yeah.
I'm interested because I'm like, who is she really close with?
I don't know.
She's close with.
Is she close with Alexis?
I don't remember who she's close with.
Lexus.
No, I don't know who she's close with.
I'm trying to figure out who she's close with on the West Coast.
I don't know.
I don't know either.
I mean, I do know that because obviously Teresa and I share Priscilla for glam.
I know, like, Tamara, Shannon.
Okay.
I think Tamara, but yeah, Shannon for sure.
Like, there are a lot of the O.C. ladies who do share glam.
So.
Could be interesting.
Could be.
I wonder how BravoCon is going to go.
I know.
I'm like, I kind of look at the list and say, like, you know, who's going?
And, like, I know the list changes, though.
Well, yeah, because, like, is Paige still going?
I don't think she was ever going.
Oh, she was.
Okay.
I don't think she was ever going.
She was never coming back.
of the show. She's like, I'm good. She's like, yeah, I'm done. And so, I mean, I see a lot of
people on the list. I'm curious who will make the final cut. Yeah. I really wonder how this is
going to go. I mean, they've only done a few bravo cons, you know, but this will be my first
one there not with Vanderpump rules. Yeah. That'll be really interesting. So that is interesting.
So there's that. And then we don't know, I mean, we're supposed to get a Jersey announcement. And
it's like, is it going to happen before bravaccon at bravocon? And if people aren't included,
but they are at bravocon, how will that work out? Like, it'll be,
really interesting.
TBD.
TBD.
I did have a good idea for Andy and he loved the idea, but I'm like, well, I need you to execute it.
You know that song, do they know it's Christmas?
No.
And it was like the live aid back in the day.
Okay.
And it was like to raise money for aides and whatnot.
And it was like all of the hugest singers came together to record the song.
Okay.
So it was like we are the world, but like the newer version.
Okay.
Yeah.
So they did one.
And then there was a redo of it.
I remember, like, Kendall Jenner had, like, a little part of it and people had issues
with that.
Okay.
But I was like, what if we did a version of that song with all of the Bravo Lebrides who sing
or rap or whatever have Andy on part of it?
And he's like, wait, I love this.
He's like, but not with me in it.
I was like, no, Andy, just as like we did it the, is it the bravos or whatever?
Watch it up and five where he, like, opened it up a little bit.
Okay.
Yeah.
Why wouldn't you want to be a private?
Yeah.
Like, we just have you sing, like, the first line.
And then it's like, I do a part, a housewife does a part.
We have someone wrap a part and this and that.
And he's like, I love it.
I'm like, make it happen.
Yes.
Because, like, everyone would have to get into the recording booth.
You'd have to record your part.
It has to be engineered, put together.
Like, it will require a lot of work.
Yeah.
But then imagine, like, all of the Bravo Lebrides just performing this Christmas song together.
It would be amazing.
And I know, like, all of the Bravo fans have been talking about, like, those commercials that they used to air back in the day.
They're like, we want more of those.
Yeah.
And all of that.
I think we should have, like, a challenge Bravo Lab Edition.
Oh, okay.
You know, like physical challenges and stuff.
That would be an interesting show to watch.
We've got the Real Housewives, like, girls trip.
But let's do, like, a challenge Bravo style.
Yeah, I agree.
Like any sort of field day, because I think aggressions need to be gotten out in, like, physical form and not just this yelling or going behind each other's back on the internet.
Like, let's fight.
Yeah.
Speaking of BravoCon, do you think I will get.
pulled up and maybe I'm manifesting this now and I shouldn't ask this out loud. Do you think I'll
get pulled up for any squash the beach? Yes. With who? I don't know. There's like the list is long.
I know. I'm like, is it your Valley cast? Is it Miami cast? Is it? I don't know. I know. They
wouldn't do me and Lindsay again. Probably not. Because I feel like we just, I mean, we haven't even
talked in here, but. Yeah, I'm trying to think like, yeah, there could be a few ones. I like, yeah.
I don't know. All of a sudden,
is there.
Oh, my God.
Right?
Oh, my God.
She's not confirmed, right?
I don't know.
She is?
I don't know.
I would think she would be.
I don't know, though.
Maybe.
She's not on a Bravo show.
That's true.
She is a Hulu lady now.
Oh, shit.
There's a new Vandor from Rolls.
Yeah, I think it's premiering like in October.
So, yeah.
Moving on.
So there was a study published in the personality and social psychology
bulletin that found bonding over shared dislikes,
especially people or ideas, can create faster and deeper connections than bonding over shared likes.
Like, what do we think about this?
No, I mean, it makes sense because the quickest way for people to bond is usually talking about other people.
A mutual enemy. Yeah, for sure. But I actually feel like I'm in my Healing Girl era recently, and I'm actually going against that.
I only want positive energy around me. So if you come to me just to bitch about someone, I'm probably going to push you away.
Yeah. It's called negative social bond.
And it works because mutual dislike feels more personal, more intense, and signals compatibility
and values.
So hating the same things, I guess, really does make you closer.
Yes.
And I get that how that makes sense.
I think I would only be comfortable doing that, though, with like people I'm really
trusting of at this point.
Because anyone who comes to me off the bat and is negative, I just, that energy is not,
I can't have it around me anymore.
No, I know.
And I feel like that was a big part of Katie and I's friendship being so up and down.
It was just like I try to be a more positive person all the time.
She doesn't.
And then it was just like if we hated the same person, like, oh, her and I bonded mutual enemy, common ground.
But then it's like the second, you know, I give a little grace, it just completely.
It falls apart when you're in like a good space and just interesting.
And I feel like also as a society, like,
Like, what does that say that we're a society full of haters?
Which, looky.
Yeah. I mean, I could see that for sure.
We are a society full of haters.
I'm like, were they on to something with the burn book?
Yeah.
Did you see, this was like maybe two weeks ago now,
Machine Gun Kelly on Watch It Upens Live?
I didn't watch the whole thing.
I watched the clips though.
That clip.
Okay.
So there's this moment where he's talking about his 16-year-old daughter.
And Andy asks him, how old is he?
Yeah.
And I assume.
Andy thought, you know, he looked pretty young or like too young to have a teenager, obviously he does.
Yeah.
But he goes on to say he's age fluid or something like that.
And Andy's like, oh, like Mariah Carey.
And then he says that he has otherworldly regenerative capabilities where he can heal faster than normal.
And he suggests like completely straight face that he might be an alien and that his mom could have been abducted while she was pregnant.
So do we think he could be an alien?
I mean, he's tall.
He's slender.
He's probably not an alien, but he could be in an evolved species.
Like, you have to evolve.
I mean, not know.
Yeah.
I believe that we as a species are evolving, and I think there are people who evolve.
I think that, like, when we talk about people being on the spectrum, even, I think a lot of times maybe they've just evolved past something we can understand.
Oh, that's interesting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What did he say?
Like, when my skin tears open, it.
heels like really quickly. I'm like, your skin's tearing open. Like when you get a cut? Yeah. I'm like, why is
your skin tearing open? But my favorite part is when he says he's a bad talk show guest. And Andy's like,
no, you're great. You're great at talking. He's like, I'm bad at talking. I don't know why I'm here.
He's so, he's like a crush though. I like he's my type. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Interesting. So
Mailman, not your type. I mean, you know, depends on the mailman. At least I know if we were both
single at the same time ever. We wouldn't fight.
over guys. I love that. That's my favorite part. Yeah. None of my friends and I, we really don't have
the same type. Yeah. See, that's the thing with Lala and Brittany right now. They both pretty much
have the exact same time. Interesting. Yeah. Thankfully, Michelle doesn't. Okay. At all. What is her type?
Because I feel like Jesse and Aaron were two different people. Yeah, like Austin Butler. Okay.
Would be her type. Like anyone kind of in that realm. So her and I actually might have
kind of the same type. Yes. That's those in the same. Yeah. This could be similar. Uh-huh.
I'm not fighting with Michelle.
I'm like, you won.
Let me go.
All right.
We're going to take one more break and then we'll be right back.
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All right, I have a question for you.
If you had to guess
which cuisine do you think
is the most serotonin boosting food.
Okay.
I would say Thanksgiving food.
Oh.
Okay.
That's, well, yes, but doesn't turkey
make you sleepy?
That's true.
Right. It's like the opposite. But it just makes me Thanksgiving makes me happy in general. Yeah, that's true. Okay. Well, this makes sense for me because a new study found that Mexican cuisine is the most serotonin boosting food group due to the presence of ingredients. It has triptophen, whatever that is. But like these nutrients that are serotonin producing.
Okay. I thought that was what was in Turkey. Maybe I'm crazy, though.
Is it? I think it is in Turkey also. Yeah. But like avocado, beans.
some cheeses and things that are good sources of
I mean I know anytime someone suggests Mexican I get very happy
but a lot of time I think it's just like being in a Mexican restaurant
it's just like more uplifting than other restaurants
Margarita Tahitrim sign me up I might be doing that after this actually
I'm like it's Monday Tuesday usually or my Casa Vega lunch days
because our chef comes on Tuesday afternoon usually
and so by Monday we've completely ran out of food
So it's like a day or two of like a couple meals eating out and then back onto the grind.
But also corn and rice, they have complex carbs that help stabilize blood sugar levels, which in turn impacts serotonin production.
I'm surprised corn has any benefits because I love corn.
Like give me corn anything.
Yeah, it just doesn't digest well.
I know.
You know?
But I love it.
I love it.
Like alote, you know, the Mexican street corn.
Yes.
Oh, so good.
I recently was telling summer, I don't remember how it got brought up in conversation
about her being Mexican.
Oh, she asked, she goes, Mom, have I been to Mexico?
Because I want to go to Mexico.
And I was like, yeah, you have.
So when mommy and daddy got married, you were there.
I'm like, of course, she doesn't remember.
She was a year and a half.
And she, like, she'll say that she remembers things.
And she was like, oh, yeah, I remember.
I'm like, well, she's like, but I want to go back.
I want to go with my friends.
And I was like, we'll go to Mexico.
And I said, do you know that you're Mexican?
And she's like, what's that?
And I'm like, well, when someone says, like, what's your ethnicity?
I said, you have Mexican, you have Polynesian.
And she's like, what?
I'm like, okay, you're too young for this.
I love that.
I love that.
It was so cute.
I have a secret.
I don't tell a lot of people because, like, they judge me.
No.
Oh.
I hate avocados.
You and my mom.
Oh, really?
Yes.
And Kevin from my band.
Interesting.
Yeah, there was one night I make this arugula salad that all of the guys they love.
It is the most basic.
salad. It's arugula, some shaved parmesan, lemon, olive oil, and fresh ground pepper.
Just mix it all up. And it's just like the best salad. You pay like $18 to $22 for this at a
restaurant. You can make it at home for like a few bucks. So one day I was like, ooh, let me spice it up
and I'll add some avocado to it. I love avocado. I feel like everyone except my mom and clearly you
love avocado. And Kevin takes a bite and he was just like, oh, what did you put avocado? I was like, yeah.
And he's like, I don't.
I'm like, you have the weirdest fucking palate, dude.
No pasta.
No avocado.
No like, no pasta.
No pasta.
Did you not see the date he went on with Katie?
Oh, God.
Yes.
Okay.
Yes.
What is Penny?
Yeah.
Also, another thing that releases endorphins are chilies.
Okay.
So that can just, you know, lead to a feeling of happiness and well-being.
I love it.
So I'm going to let Janet and Michelle know that every time we're going to Costa Vega, it's good for our serotonin
boosting.
I'm curious like, so I love El Coyote, which you filmed that and had to think. Can you go back there or are there bad memories now after that dinner?
I mean, I would maybe sit in a different section. Ask for a different server. I don't know if Janet should go back there.
Okay. I was pretty chill. I was yelling. I don't want to say even at Kristen. I was yelling to Kristen. That all got cut out. But it was like, I love Kristen so much. But she.
She sometimes has trouble focusing on listening
when I'm just like trying to get something through
and she just like, she talks over you
and she talks and talks and I've known her for so long now
that I'm just like, okay, let her speak
and then I'll maybe get a word in.
Yeah.
But at this dinner, I was like, Chris, I can not listen to me!
It was like season three like, listen to me!
All over again.
And I mean, I'm glad it all got cut out.
Everyone was yelling over everyone.
But yeah, I think I would be allowed to go back there.
Okay.
Janet's the one who stood up.
She's like,
make me the villain again. I was like, oh no. Wait, did we see that on? I thought we did.
I can't even remember. I don't even know. How long was that dinner before Kristen and Nia left?
Maybe only an hour. Oh, okay. It wasn't that long. Okay. That was the day I shot my book cover and no one knew what I was doing. So I missed the Ovalene event. I think you were there the morning.
Oh, that was the same day. Yeah, the same day. And so I missed that. I had a lie to everyone. They're like, oh, what are you shooting for? Then Jared's asking all
these questions. And I'm like, there's some like really good photographer in town that my
agent set me up with just to do like some test photos to pitch for editorial. I was like I don't
know. I'm not a good liar. I don't know if I would be a good traitor. Shit. Anyway, okay,
O.C. I have to go back to this because I mean, you've been a topic of conversation. But in I think
it was the last episode, I binged a couple at the same time, but they're talking about the supposed
Roofies, which I've spoken to Tamara.
I've spoken to Gretchen.
Gretchen is like, I never said that.
And she's like, Sheena, don't you think you've been my friend for 15 years that had
I ever said, like, she goes, first of all, she would have been in jail.
Yeah.
Like, she's like, there's no way that I wouldn't have told you that.
And I was like, girl, I know.
And then I told Tamara, I was like, just so you know, I'm like, I'm not even on this
show.
And I'm like in the middle of their friend drama.
And I was like, Tamara, I promise you, like, I talk to Gretchen.
She never.
And she was like, okay, well, that makes me feel better.
but here's something that when you're out at bars could help that it's a new california law so to help
people like prevent people from getting roofied california bars and nightclubs are now required to
offer drink lids if a customer asks so venues i guess also have to display signs saying drink lids
and anti wait venues must also to play sign saying drink lids and anti-spiking drug test kids
Kids?
Oh, okay.
Got, okay.
I was like, hold on our drug testing kids at the bar?
Yes, okay.
Let me say that again.
Drug tests at the bars.
We can just leave that in.
So venues also have to display signs of, drink lids, and anti-spiking drug tests are available.
Oh, okay.
So that's interesting.
You know what they should also provide is fed.
and all strips for all the people doing their other drugs.
It really is true.
Like at this point, like next to the tamponion machine, just, yeah, fentanyl testing, like, yeah, roofy testing.
It should at least be available, even if it's for purchase.
You want to do your drugs, drink your drinks, whatever, but like do it safely.
Yeah, exactly, because it's like, it's so dangerous out here.
It's like not cool because I also don't like to drink my drinks out of plastic.
So I'm kind of like, are there lids that they're going to be offering for like kids cups?
Yeah. Is it just going to be like me walking around a bar with like plastic cups because like I don't know if I have a glass. If I'm a wine glass, how does that work? I don't know. Huh. That's interesting. Yeah. Maybe we just have to. Because then are we drinking everything through a straw? Then what about the turtles? You know what would be a great invention? Like this is what we should. We should invent a wine glass that if Rupinol goes in it, the wine glass changes. Yeah, it changes colors or something. That would be interesting. And then we sell it to every bar across this country. Billion.
Let's do it.
Okay, a couple more topics I wanted to get into.
Have you seen anything about Sophie Turner lately online?
She had responded to a troll comment that attempted to shame her for posting a photo, having fun with a friend.
Yes.
And someone said, like, LMFAO, I think she's forgotten.
She has two kids.
And she responded, oh, I'm so sorry.
Sometimes I forget people can't think for themselves.
So get this.
there's this crazy thing called shared custody maybe just maybe they were with their dad that day
and I'm like yeah girl get it because like I mean even I have obviously full custody of my child
but I even get comments like that when I go out and I'm like I put my kid to bed then I go out and
even if I didn't as parents we are allowed to live our lives yeah we're allowed to go out
yeah I'm going to a birthday party tonight and I've got a girl's dinner tomorrow I'm
not going to feel bad for that. If I've been out of town for a week and then I have an event
or something, I will make sure I'm not going to get there till 9 p.m. They do want to put my kid down.
But she has two parents and we're both allowed to live our lives. Then Brock is doing a dad's night
out Wednesday. Yeah. That's okay. I feel like the mom shaming really comes from moms who don't have
the ability to live that life and it's just a hair. Because it's just like, what makes you think that
I have to give up my life because I have a kid.
It actually, like, for me, when I see that, I'm like, oh, maybe I could have had a kid, you know,
because I'd rather see that there was still a life where I'm, because I'm like, I'm so selfish.
I can't give up any part of my life.
But I like when I see that moms are like, I didn't.
Yeah.
That was one thing that Jesse Solomon, when we met him at Coachella said to us, like, I think it was like the next day or whatever,
we had just kept in touch, followed each other, exchange numbers and whatnot.
And he was like, wow, he's like, you guys really made me rethink being a parent one day.
He goes, here I see you guys at 3 a.m. at Zen Yara, just like partying, living your best life.
And I'm like, don't they have a kid?
I'm like, yeah, she's at home.
And we're out at a festival, having fun, living our best life.
That's how we just like, refuel our love for each other.
And he was like, so you really can have it all.
I'm like, yeah, I saw Ryan Bailey had written in the comments too.
He said, Elizabeth is not going to have a great day.
And yeah, she's probably getting raked over the colds, deservedly so.
Yeah, I just like, I feel.
like there's just too much commenting
happening in the world. Like, you would never
walk up to someone on the street and say this.
It's just too much access, too much
availability to say what you want these days.
And also, no one ever asks
the dad where their kids are. You know,
it's always the mom. It's never, like,
the comment directed at a man.
No. You should be home with your
kid. It's like, what is this?
No, and it's like, and a lot of times
even if the woman is in a relationship,
more often than I see a lot of what they're
calling, there's a new phenomenon called
single married women because the dad is often doing his own thing and not and it's just like
yeah she deserves time right and the sad thing is it's usually coming from women it is always
women shaming other women yeah why can't we support each other cut it out right yeah okay
last topic we're going to get into tinder gender stats so women match with 33% of people they swipe
right on, men match with 2.5%. What does that tell us? Are women more selective and thoughtful?
Or are men just out there swiping on everyone? I mean, men, I assume, do just swipe on anyone.
Right. I mean, that happens. Hot, hot, not, hot. Exactly. Yeah. Like, they literally just go like
that and then you swipe with them and then they go back to look at your profile and they're like,
not interested in all of your unmatched. You're like, okay. There's this one guy who's swiped right
over two million times and only yielded one date out of it. Oh, God.
Isn't that insane?
I mean, this was over like five years, but he would average nearly 2,000 swipes per day.
It led to 1,300 conversations and the vast majority of them, they're not going anywhere.
He went on one date.
What city does it live?
And I feel like I don't even have that many swipes available.
I don't know how he came across 2 million people, like on Tinder.
I mean, how many people are on this app also.
He must play for the premium and have access to the entire, like, world.
Yeah.
But I did see that this sparked a larger discussion of how.
effective dating apps are and how important profile content is for engaging with others.
It's like this guy's profile, apparently, which would not be for Janet, featured several
fishing photos, a pet snake and a bio that said, if you don't fish, don't bother.
I am not a dating app fan. I would love for someone to introduce me to a dating app I like,
but I'm always going to be an in-person person. I'm better in person.
Yeah, that was me too. And that's how I've, yeah, met the guys I'm married to.
And yeah, I'm just in person.
You get the vibe right off the bat.
You know why you're talking to them.
They're interested.
The swiping, it's, I don't know, it's a dangerous place.
Yeah, it doesn't work for me.
All right.
Well, to wrap this up, Jack's hole.
I think it's like the haters on social media.
Because, like, honestly, I've had to stay out of my DMs and my comment section.
I've had to stay offline pretty much.
I just like, come on.
Just like live your life.
Let me live my life.
Right.
You don't have to say anything.
You just hate me.
silently. And this is just your name
being on the show. Your face hasn't even
been on it. I know. That happens
next week. O
T. All right. Well, thank you guys all for
listening, for watching. Glad to be
back in, well, normal with
the camera setting, but we'll
probably be back in Dear Media next week.
Make sure to listen to Kiki
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