Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - Unpopular Opinions

Episode Date: June 6, 2025

This week, Kiki & Krystina are back for another round of Hot Topics with Scheana, where they are all weighing in on some unpopular fan opinions from the Bravoverse, including: Teddi should get her diamond back! They need to get Paige, Ciara & Amanda out of bed! Housewife glam teams have got to go! LVP was behind the RadarOnline story about Dorit’s dog! The Valley is better without Jax! Scheana was both Miami girl AND Vegas girl! RHOSLC is the worst dressed franchise! Do they agree? Plus, how did Scheana find out who was leaking her private info? And is Shep a good kisser? Tune in to find out! Follow us: scheana scheananigans Co-Hosts: @thetalkofshame @krystinaarielle BUY MY BOOK!!!MY GOOD SIDE is available for Pre-Order now at www.mygoodsidebook.com  The video version of this episode will be available on Scheana’s YouTube page on Friday, June 6th.Episode Sponsors:Make your outdoor space your dream oasis TODAY with Wayfair, and enjoy it all summer long. Head to Wayfair.com right now to shop a huge outdoor selection.Go to boncharge.com and use coupon code GOODASGOLD to save 15%.Hero Bread is offering 10% off your order. Go to hero.co and use code GOODASGOLD at checkout.Get started at FactorMeals.com/goodasgold50off and use code goodasgold50off to get 50 percent off plus FREE shipping on your first box.If you’re into glamour and romance, things are heating up on Hulu. Catch new seasons of Project Runway and Bachelor in Paradise this summer.Produced by Dear MediaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Listen to all new episodes every Wednesday, anywhere you get your podcasts. From Vanderpump Rules to Motherhood and everywhere in between. Warm up the kettle, it's time into some shenanigans with Sheena Shay. ["Good As God"] Because we're good as god. Because we're good as god. Because we're good as god. Because we're good as god. Because we're good as god. Because we're good as god. Because we're good as god. And we are back for another week of shenanigans.

We've got Kiki and Christina back in the studio with me. How we doing? Good. How was your weekend? Do you want to tell us about last night? Because I can tell you're still like beaming. Oh my god, what happened? Oh my gosh, I'm so excited. So I've talked about it before, but I play Dungeons and Dragons. And so I play with this group sometimes called Dimension 20. So last night Dimension 20 played the Hollywood Bowl. And it's like a packed house playing Dungeons and Dragons. And I mean, like, they have, like, full pyrotechnics,

like, blowing up like, bop-bop. And it's like, you're seeing, like, the dice rolls up on screen. It was amazing. And it's like, it's personal to me because, like, the arc that I'm in, Pirate to Leviathan, kind of, like, ties in, there's characters in their story that are in ours.

So it's kind of like our little crossover. And it's like, they sold out Madison Square Garden a couple of months ago. That's crazy. Like this is Dungeons and Dragons, like on a stage. And it's just like all these people in the audience that are fully into it and just like seeing my friends and we're in this section where it's just like,

you look over and it's like everybody we've ever been on the channel with is there. And it's just like this big family reunion and we're like, ah! And it was just- That's so fun. It was so cool just to see like your friends is there. And it was just like this big family reunion and we're like, ah! And it was just, it was so cool just to see like your friends up there just killing it. The Hollywood Bowl, that's iconic. Yeah, I love that.

And then we went to the Roosevelt and so I got to like be by the big sign on the like top of the roof. I did, I slept, I went to sleep at like 2.30. Okay. Okay. What time do the kids wake you up? Zoe looked at me at about 7 15 and she's like,

wake up. Do you want to play with my computer? Cause she found her little like pink fake laptop. Yeah. She's like the little V tech one. I actually think I got it because I found it in a rock story like years ago. And I was like, that is actually really smart

if I want to work. Yeah. And so she's just sitting there like on her thing and I'm like, mommy doesn't want to work right now. Mommy's going to work in a little bit. Yeah. So she's just sitting there like on her thing and I'm like, mommy doesn't want to work right now. Mommy's going to work in a little bit. Yeah. Summer was up at six this morning because she fell asleep so early.

So we were in San Diego this weekend. Brock decided he was just going to do the San Diego marathon, the rock and roll marathon. Oh my God. 26.2 miles. Has not trained. But he trained for his Ironman you say? Sure. Months ago, he was training for a half Ironman, which is a half marathon at the end of the

swimming and the biking. This is a full 26.2 mile marathon. He at most, I think, after the Ironman did maybe nine or 10 miles when we were in New York, like once, a couple miles when we were in New York. Like once, a couple miles here and there on the treadmill, ran around the neighborhood, maybe once. So I'm trying to really live in the let them theory, let him, let them, whatever it's, you know. And I'm like, I think it's a terrible idea. I worry that you're gonna have a heart attack. I have heard so many things about, you know, athletes

in like their thirties when they're young and then athletes are just dropping dead from like heart attacks. I genuinely worry about that with Brock. So I'm already like my OCD, I've upped the Zoloft which has actually, it is helping the intrusive thoughts but I'm just like worried he's gonna get injured or die of a heart attack.

So I was like, you know what? I really wanted to go out and celebrate Pride. Happy Pride month to everyone, woo! But I was like, you know what? I think it's smarter to just go down to San Diego, be there just in case, you know? Visited our old neighbors, met the people who are living in my house.

So weird. I'm like, you're on my balcony. And I was like, hi, hope you're renting it out. Are you sold your house? No. So we were just renting down there. Okay. And that's why we got rid of it because they would not sell it to us.

It's like a generational thing and the woman who owns it has dementia, but, and she's in a nursing home, but nothing's gonna happen to it until she passes. And I'm not wishing- You're not gonna be Katy Perry, exactly. I know, so I'm just like, I don't, she's actually doing well. And so I'm like, I can't keep spending

like over six grand a month for rent when I have a mortgage, now two mortgages. So we're staying with our old neighbors. Summer absolutely loves them. And then yesterday we're driving back from San Diego and I'm just like, please just stay awake for the drive. Stay awake because we were there until about 530. So for her to nap on that and there's no traffic at all, we're getting back in two hours, but I did not want her to fall asleep. So

first hour we're good. She wanted her window shade up. So I pull over I put that up for her Let me get back on the freeway Carl's bed Oceanside mom. I have to pee and I'm like no There is nowhere that strip where I was like, hey Siri, where's the closest restroom? There's one like 30 miles south or 40 miles and I was like, okay. I'm like, well, she has a potty in the car so I'm like I'll pull over oh but there's no exits you know there's like Camp Pendleton and then like nothing else and so finally I see an exit I'm like we got this honey just hold it a couple more minutes we got this so we exit we pull over it's like a dirt road I set her potty up for her and then I'm like now mommy has to go my ass cannot fit on that tiny sat her potty up for her and then I'm like, now mommy has to go. My ass cannot fit on that

tiny little dresser potty. I open the back door. I open the front door and I was like, mommy has to go too. I just pop a squat, you know. We've all done it. And she's like, mommy, why are you peeing on the floor? I was like, mommy has to be really bad, okay? I can't fit on your body. Just like, trying to do it while there's like a strip of no cars driving by. I swear after you push out a baby, the stream is not so straight. You know, if it once was, I don't know, it's not.

I definitely peed on my ankle. She got a kick out of it. But right when we get back in the car, she's comfortable, she feels good, knocks out. I'm like, fuck. She was playing on the beach all day. She didn't have a bath the day before. I was like, oh no, no, no, no.

We are getting in the bath. Miserable to wake up a sleeping child. I get in the bath with her and she's just complaining the whole time. Then she's back to sleep immediately. Wakes up at 5.59 this morning. Mommy, do you want to play the Stitch game? Oh my god.

And when she calls it a game, she's meaning like a skit. She likes to act out parts of the movie. So she wants me at 5.59 a.m. to start acting out the Stitch movie. And I'm Stitch and she's Lilo. And I'm like, girl, I cannot. Do you want to watch something on the TV? Let's put on a movie. You just have to say tokey ba ba ba over and over again

in a low growl. Yeah. I love when kids want to do the acting stuff with you, but then like you have to be a participant and like you really have to, and I'm not an improv girl. So I'm like, it's very difficult for me. I'm like, this is fun, but also can you just do the acting and I watch and cheer,

but like, why do I have to be a participant? No fun, but also, can you just do the acting and I watch and cheer? But like, why do I have to be a participant? No, I'm fully in it. We do the Anna and Elsa game. And I told her, I was like, honey, you know, these are called like skits or like sketches. I don't like that. It's a game.

I'm like, okay, okay. Well, we'll play the game. But I did sign her up for an improv class this fall. Oh, fine. Yeah, so we'll see if she likes that. Because I mean, she loves acting, but she also is shy. She warms up and then she's all over the place, but I do want her to just get over that.

It's not even necessarily stage fright at her dance recital, she's fine, but sometimes she just gets shy. And I'm like, say this, do that. I hope we get a summer moon TikTok at the end of this. I take improv very seriously. Right? Oh, my God, I love it. How was your weekend? What'd you do?

I was actually the op... Everyone was partying this weekend. I felt like everyone was out. I was at home, like, giving my cats baths, like, changing out the air filters. I was just very... I was doing, like, a house cleanse. Wait, you give your cats a bath? I raked my rug. Like, I don't know if your algorithm is the same.

Like, I keep seeing these rug rakes and I'm like, I vacuum all the time. Like, no, that rug rake, there's so much cat here in your rug that is not getting vacuumed up. No, I've seen those. Anyway, so I just spend a lot of time just like zending out, raking my rug.

Okay, but go back to the cat bath. Yes. How? You know, I had to do it because I feel like in the summer they start shedding like right before summer a lot. But how did you get a cat in the bath without clawing the shit out of you? No, I was shocked. I hadn't given them a bath in a very long time because the last time was a traumatizing experience and they were actually, I don't know if it's because they're older, they were actually I got maybe one sort of like deep meow, no clawing or anything.

I didn't even have to wear the crazy high up gloves that go up to the elbows. They were very, I was shocked. I was actually like, maybe because I was in such a zen place, they were in a zen place. Cause yeah, before it was like a fight to the death. Cause I need to give Salem a bath. I just have been getting a washcloth

and cleaning out his paws when, I don't even know if it was when I was out of town or whatever it was, but I think the litter robot got stuck. And so because it didn't rotate, then he dug through the shit and then jumped on my white bed. And so I'm like trying to clean his paws out and I'm like, I wish I could just soak you in the bath.

But I'm like, how do you give a cat a bath? Take him to the vet. You did the sink or like the tub? I did the tub and like I did the whole thing and they were very chill, but you know, who knows if that's just like a one-time thing, but I was very happy and proud of myself. Yeah.

Is it warm? Did you make it like a hot tub? I did, I had like a little, you know, cup that I was just sort of like, I wasn't dunking them. I just had a cup that formed a warm water and I was like, you know, pouring it over them. And so only their paws were in the water. Yeah, that's all I want.

I just want to clean his paws. I brush them all the know, pouring it over them. And so only their paws were in the water. Yeah, that's all I want. I just want to clean his paws. I brush them all the time. Summer loves brushing them. But also, like, I mean, everything in my house is white, which people are like, you have a toddler. I'm like, I know, but the Lovesack couch is machine washable. That's one of the selling points that got me on it.

But her bed, her comforter's white, my bed, my comforter's white, the sheets are white. And when he gets a little bit of shit in his paws, literally, it ends up on my bed. It's disgusting. But I'm not gonna be like, you can't sleep in my bed. But Brock is just like, you're fucking gash. And I'm like, I know, they love you.

I do have to tell you something else about the week. Okay. Because I went to Ezekiel's class picnic and I was really excited to go, but the season finale of Doctor Who was coming on and they were gonna simulcast it across the globe so I didn't want it to be spoiled. And I was dead set on it.

I stayed up 12.01. I'm like, okay, it's gonna start. 12.02. Okay, Disney Plus is not uploading the episode. What's happening? I don't understand. I don't know Disney Plus is not uploading the episode. What's happening? I don't understand. I don't know what time it is in the UK right now, but I need to be able to watch this.

So no, I had gotten it wrong. They were gonna air it on Sunday, but I got the time transition wrong. So I opened my phone while I'm at my son's class picnic with all of these other parents, all of these kids. I open it, the very first thing I see is a spoiler of what happens in the episode. And this show is important to me.

Like I love this show. When I tell you that I had a full body visceral reaction and stood up like, they're like, what happened? And I was like, there was a regeneration. And everybody is looking at me like, what are you talking about? Like they're thinking somebody in my family

is like hurt or injured. And I'm just like, what are you talking about? Like they're thinking somebody in my family is injured. And I'm just like, you don't understand. I wasn't emotionally prepared. And I'm having a full body like nerd reaction to like what happened on this show and in public. And just to all the parents at the picnic, I would like you to know that I was completely fine. But emotionally dist just rotten. So that's my public apology for acting a damn fool. I love it.

I love how passionate you are, you know? Listen, it's like when you're going through stuff to be able to watch something that gives you hope or that like is, enables you to just go away from your problems and go into something else, but also to have a story that's just invigorating and powerful and you have this community with it and then to be able to work for them and to like do the podcast of a show that I've like been invested in for all these years and it's just like, it just makes me happy.

Yeah, I love that for you. We have some very fun unpopular opinions that I want to get into, but we're going to take a quick break first and then see if you guys agree with these or not. Okay, so if you've been to my house, you know I look like a wayfair commercial the second you enter my space. But now, as I've told you before, I have added new outdoor furniture in our backyard and it has just changed everything. Like there's just something about a beautiful outdoor space that is so satisfying. I love to feel like my backyard is just my little oasis,

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I feel like a lot of them are probably on the popular side. But since I have, you know, some Bravo historians here with me today, I thought it would be fun to get your take on some of them. I love it. You're so messy. All right. Real Housewives of New York. Bravo should have gotten rid of Ramona instead of Jill on Roni.

That's a hard one because like, Ramona is problematic, but she makes really good television. Like who else is gonna shit on the floor? What? Multiple times. Like not on camera. On camera. Just shit on the floor? Why multiple times? But on camera, just shit on the floor. Not like like you like you see kind of like the after.

Yeah, like just popped a squat like I did on the side of the road. But shit comes out of her, her boot, her booty. Like you can't control it like they like she has IBS. It was like hard to hang it. There was a whole thing where everybody got sick and everybody was like... Shitting on the floor. And she liked a little trail, like I think from her like through the bedroom or through

the hallway, on the white tile. Oh no. Yeah. That's what Salem did in my house the other day. He's a cat. So yeah, it's hard because like, yeah, I mean, she does. She makes good. But Jill is also great television. I'm sorry. The second she comes in with hi, I love Jill's hair.

And I think she and it's and I really like, I really wish we could have like seen like her life after that point and like RIP Bobby, like just see like that kind of them getting older together. And I would like to see what that kind of them getting older together. And I would like to see what's up with her dating this dude. But listen, I love old people dating. That's why I love like Love Hotel.

Oh, yeah. I've been watching it. Yeah. I want to watch Louann date for the rest of my life. I want to take a Louann dating course. This woman is confident in a way I could never be. What do you mean? And I'm choosing him because he's tall. This woman is confident in a way I could never be, what do you mean? And I'm choosing him cause he's tall. She'll say this junk to their face.

And you're just like, man, like, I don't know, man. Like, I guess she just knows herself and she's sure of herself, but keep her on my TV forever and always. Well, any man who can get a count to propose to her and get married in two weeks after, I mean, I'd be pretty confident too. Do y to propose to her and get married in two weeks after I'm pretty confident to

Do y'all think her and Joe Bradley had sex? Yeah Of course, I mean Then I'm not gonna get in people's bedrooms or Jesse and Erica's like that ain't none of my business I'm just gonna be like it's never been like publicly or Jesse and Erica's like, that ain't none of my business. I'm just gonna be like... Because it's never been, like, publicly confirmed, right? Or denied? I feel like they have... I feel like on the reunion was the first time

Joe Bradley finally admitted this past Southern Hospitality reunion. Something happened. He finally admitted something happened. I know what happened. I was just wondering what you thought. The freaking godmother of brothel over here. Okay, moving on to Salt Lake City. I don't think Jen should have a platform after release. I don't agree with that. Only because, you know what, look, we gave Teresa her like return home thing.

And, you know, we're living in a times where I don't know, criminals seem to be very popular. We got the Chrisley's coming out. They're going to have their own show. I don't know, criminals seem to be very popular. We got the Chrisleys coming out. They're gonna have their own show. I don't know. Like it should be equal for all, right? Yeah. And I like, listen, I get it. She defrauded elderly.

There's a lot of stuff. However, we are watching stories of flawed people on these shows. We know these people are flawed. We were able to kind of watch the downfall, watch the disintegration. Like, I wanna see like what comes after this. You can make that decision after,

but I do wanna know what happened. Like maybe we just do a one-off special. And I mean, the girls are like doing great on their own, but throw that in there as out there as Salt Lake City is. Then you put Jen back in there and she might be like a more humbled version of herself, a more chill version of herself, and then put Elizabeth Holmes in there with them too.

Yeah. Oh yeah. Because they're besties from prison now, so I wanna see them like interact on the show. I wanna see the workout. I love redemption and like I wanna see Jen in her white refrigerator era. She gonna have to get that apartment because she can't afford that chateau

or whatever anymore. Not a white refrigerator. And also here's the thing. I want these people to go back to work because I want them to pay restitution. I want the people that they defrauded to still be able to get. And so they're not going to do that if they're not employed and they really can only be employed in like probably one arena. That's true. Yeah.

What do we think about the Chrisleys being pardoned? You know, the thing was I came across a TikTok last night of emails that were being read and I was kind of like, where are these people? Should they have been parted? Cause it's like, it's not, I don't know. And so I feel conflicted about the whole thing. But at the end of the day, like I,

everything is chaos right now. And so, I don't know, I'm just gonna just be observe and report. Just gonna watch it go down. Yeah. I always think about on the show, Once Upon a Time, where every time Rumpelstiltson does something,

he's like, all magic comes with the price. And so I just wonder like what the price they're gonna have to pay for that pardon is out in the- Yeah, cause how many years early did they get out? I mean, they had a 12 year sentence he got, they'd spent two and a half years. So pretty, yeah. I do like that the second he came out,

he immediately spoke to the disparity that he noticed in prison. And how he's like, I received fair treatment and I watched people not receive their treatment. And I feel like if he is gonna come out and use that platform, because they've already got another show coming. If he is going to use that platform because they've already got another show coming. If he is going to use that platform to help the people that he saw in

prison like get jobs, find programs or different ways to put these people in a position to have a new life after with the chance that he's given then I am okay. Listen, that's a lot of money. 30 something million dollars. I'm just saying, dig, get a pardon for it. I mean, I was about to make a joke about Karen Huger getting pardoned, but I ain't gonna do it. But I'm just saying, maybe Katie was right, pardon. No, Karen, Karen, we're gonna let Karen sit in there and learn something after number four.

But we still love you though, but we want the best for all of these people in their trying times. Okay, back to Salt Lake. Salt Lake City is the worst dressed Housewives franchise. Hmm, I don't know if I'd heard that before. I mean, I feel like I love Angie's looks. I mean, I know they're over the top,

but I kind of love seeing her. Ron wins, hot dogs, and hearts. Yeah. I don't think that they're the worst dress. I mean... Who do you think is the worst dress? That's a good question. I mean, oh, who have we seen?

Here's the thing. So like, I'm not really like a huge label whore. So sometimes when I see like any franchise where it's just like labeled down to the head, to the toe, I'm kind of like, you know, like we can, it's great, but like we can do better. Yeah. I know Atlanta does that a lot, but I love them, but like they love a label.

Oh, I'm trying, oh. Salt, like I don't think they're the worst dressed personally. I think sometimes they serve really great looks. I think sometimes we need to be like, maybe lay off the blazers. That is many. I think sometimes they serve really great looks. I think sometimes we need to be like, maybe lay off the blazers. That is many. Like I feel like I see Meredith Marks sometimes with Brooks on his social media and stuff.

And she's like off the show serving hard, but like it's kind of like she's going to work. So she puts on like business casual a little bit. And I feel like Meredith is gorgeous. And I want to see her like dress for like her thing. But you know what? I don't think Salt Lake is the worst. All right, moving on to Beverly Hills.

Garcelle is right about the PK and Dorit robbery situation. I mean, I think it was evident during the reunion that many of the other women and maybe even production agreed with Garcelle, although no one else chimed in, which obviously Garcelle was annoyed by that because she's like, come on, like y'all have said this. But I mean, even let's just say, even if it was true, there's no way Dorit had any idea. She is still a victim. I'm sure that was traumatizing. Was the whole leave the cell phone thing by the gate weird? Sure, but maybe they were just nice burglars.

Like that could exist. Dorit would never put her children in that position. Never. She would never put her children in that position. No mother is going to scare her children. As much as that woman loves her children, she would never put them in that position. I do. There's no part of me that believes that. And like, PK is not gonna put his kids in that situation.

Like. Yeah, I don't think so. I mean, I think- Don't look at me! Don't read my face. I think, look, I think that people have questions, but like when you don't have answers, it's to throw that out there on a national platform is like, it's bold, right?

It is very bold. Listen, I ain't playing with PK. Emily, remember when Emily Hank said one thing and it was like, I know what I'm talking about. No, thank you. I don't want no smoke with you, Paul. No, like I don't want to get a lawsuit in my inbox or-

No cyst and disease. Yeah, no cyst and disease. No, speaking of, I don't want to get a lawsuit in my inbox or... No cyst and disease. Yeah, no cyst and disease. No, speaking of, I tweeted this yesterday because everyone, I guess, online, I very rarely look at the comments when it's in response to the episodes, me appearing on The Valley and whatnot. But again, someone sent me like one tweet

and so then I'm in my mentions, I'm like, what are people saying? And it was like a screen grab of me and Lala in the Jessie scene. And they're like, oh my God, look at Sheena. She saw cameras on Lala and just had to run over to get her camera time and stood there and didn't even speak. And I'm like, I love how you think that was just the whole conversation. It was actually like a 10, maybe 15 minute conversation with Jessie,

where we're both going in on him. Oh, what did you say to him? I think production did me a favor by leaving out what I said. Honestly, after seeing the response, Lala got him like, I will just stand there silent. That's fine. Because what I was going in on him about was stuff with his girlfriend, non-girlfriend and things that I had seen, things that I had heard.

And I was just telling him exactly how I felt about it. But then she sends cease and desist and all of that. And so, yeah, like everything I said to him that day, like they couldn't air it, which I was actually happy about. But I'm like, I was not just running and being like, oh, the cameras on Lala, it's not on me. Like, I need my camera time. Like I've had plenty of camera time.

I will have plenty more coming up. I don't need to insert myself. I also was extremely self-aware this season that I am not a primary cast member. I am here as a friend to support my friends. So I'm absolutely not doing that when I normally would be when it's my full-time job. This is just my part-time job for fun.

You know, when you're at the reunion, you do. You chime in when it's not really your place because that's your job. That wasn'ttime job. This is just my part-time job for fun. Yeah. You know, when you're at the reunion, you do, you chime in when it's not really your place because that's your job. That wasn't my job. My job was to support my friends and have fun. Yeah. So I was like, I think production did me a favor there. Wait, I'm curious, like, did you have fun being like a friend of for the first time? I did. I actually did. I felt less pressure to, you know, carry a storyline, stir up shit where it's like, you know, the season finale. And if you feel like it's boring, then you might say something that is a little out of character just to piss someone off.

And I didn't feel I had to do that at all for the first time ever. And so I think coming off of season 11, and then this would have been the time we were filming season 12. It was nice to go and film the valley as a friend then to go back in for season 12 and have forced conversations. And yeah, so I enjoyed it. Did you see the thing on TikTok this weekend where it was like, it was like, don't do it.

It was like, can't keep my hands to myself. I probably would have wanted to end this. Oh, yes. But this girl goes like, don't do it. It was like, can't keep my hands to myself. I probably would, I would want to end this. But this girl goes like, don't do it. Don't pretend you're Sheena Shay pointing that you're it's all happening. Yes, I saw that one. Okay, back to Beverly Hills. I love Teddy and wish she would get her diamond back.

I think that I'm really interested in seeing obviously her journey because she's been so transparent about her health and everything, and I want to see that. I do too. And I mean, I like Teddy. I like Teddy on Big Brother. I like seeing her on stuff, and it is a very interesting,

it's not, as a person who's like, mother is fighting cancer right now, I do want to see those stories that hit home and that reflect and that is a very real story that is happening. And so for all that everyone talks about storylines, storylines, like, you know, remember, those are the moments that remind us this is a real life.

This is someone's real life. This isn't just always necessarily a story, but we've also been like invested in this person's life. And I don't know, I think about her kids and them having some way to look at this time for her and reflect on it and just even to have those videos to look back on would be so... I don't know, I just, I do. I do think so. Yeah, from her first season when I watched it, I was like, I like this girl and I need to be friends with her.

And then I met her in person at TomTom and I was just like, oh yeah, we're friends. And I love her. So I would love to see her get her diamond back. Okay, next up, Cathy Hilton, muscle armed Bravo into not airing the Aspen footage. Y'all are not gonna come for my girl. Y'all are not gonna come for my girl.

Y'all are not gonna come for my girl. We do not speak on Miss Kathy Hilton, you know what? I love Kathy. Oh yeah. And listen, Kathy is smart, she's funny, and I don't believe that she's out there like strong arming Bravo. I I don't think she would I think she would be like, you know I'm saying I'm not following And if they took that as her strong arm and that's on them, yeah

Lisa Rinna carried real housewives of Beverly Hills before she left You know, I think that people were giving Lisa a really hard time at the end and then Lisa Renna carried Real Housewives of Beverly Hills before she left. You know, I think that people were giving Lisa a really hard time at the end, but as soon as she was gone, exactly what I pictured, knew what happened, did, and it's like, wow, I really miss Lisa Renna. I wish she was really back here. And now she's kind of like above and beyond it.

I don't think she would ever come back. Totally. I don't think she'd come back. But like, she was a great addition. And like, again, like people find so much hate when they just find a character, but you have to like look beyond that. Like, but are they giving you the entertainment? Are you engaging because of them? If so, then let them be hated.

Let them. Yeah. You know? We need a straw to stir the drink, as they say. And I do like, we also, it's taken into effect. Like she was having a rough, rough time in that season. It's always going back and looking at the context of what that last season was, what was happening.

She's like, lost Lois. Like there's just a whole bunch of stuff that's there. And I think she kind of deserves some grace in that because grief will make you act a whole ass hole. For sure. We have two LVP ones to wrap up the Beverly Hills unpopular opinions. LVP is a narcissistic abuser, which is why Kyle tried so hard to please her with Kyle continuing her cycle of abuse from her mother.

Whoo. OK, I'm going to say this. I'm going to go back to that saying of normalize liking Lisa Vanderpump on Real housewives and understanding her machinations there, but also having your feelings about Lisa Vanderpump on Vanderpump rules. I do think Kyle could have had her back more in those things. I don't think it was one way of Abuse I think all them girls was messing with each other. I think they're playing a really interesting game. But I do think that in that moment and with everything that Lisa was going through in that particular time period,

I do think she just wanted to have a friend support her and not be like, hey, like I get that we're filming a TV show, but like, I need you right now. I don't need you to take this and be like, you're down. Let me kick you a whole bunch of times. And I feel like that's what that last season was. And I completely understand that. Do I think Lisa Vanderpump of Vanderpump rules is a whole nother story?

Absolutely, because she like can be the puppet master in that sense. Like, what? Those are, I'm sorry. Bye bye bye whatever, string string string. Like that's, it was, that lady knows where all the bodies are buried. I believe that.

No darling, it's fine, it's fine. Last one, Lisa Vanderpump called Radar online and had them run the story on Dorit's dog. I mean, look, I do believe that everyone in reality has friends in tabloids, and they will call those friends in tabloids, and it's fair game. Honestly, like, if you have those people

who are willing to run stories for you, then do it. And I just think that Beverly Hills, like, they know how Hollywood works, and so it's a different, it's different than other franchises where their beefs, like, don't necessarily get to the tabloids in the same way. Now it does, because we've kind of entered that. But Beverly Hills, like, they know how Hollywood works, It's different than other franchises where their beefs like don't necessarily get to the tabloids in the same way now It does because we've kind of entered that but Beverly Hills like they know how Hollywood works and you know, you feed your friends stories

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All right, moving on to some other shows and Bravo unpopular opinions. Let's start with summer house. They need to get Moving on to some other shows on Bravo Unpopular Opinions. Let's start with Summer House. They need to get Paige, Sierra, and Amanda out of bed. Absolutely not. Let them stay in bed. The whole set, I gotta say, I don't remember many sets of many reunions for any shows,

but this Summer House one is so iconic. The bed, the- It's pretty. The cushions and the comforter, the pillows, the robes, like the sloth by Handy. I mean, the details of this, it is just like a bedtime dream. It's amazing.

And I don't think they need to get out of bed. One of the best parties of the season, the bed party. Yes. One of the best set decorations ever, the beds. Let those women stay in bed. One of the best parties of the season, the bed party. Yes. One of the best set decorations ever. The beds. Yeah. Let those women stay in bed. Right. Yeah. And I want to normalize more women being in bed at all times. I love sleep. I love hanging out. If I could get my friends to come hang out in my bed and just be on our phones

chilling, that's the dream. I love doing that. I'll go over my friend's house just to like, you know, we'll let her kids hang out in the living room and then we'll just go to her bed and just sit there on the phone, watch TV. Like it's so fun. Where do you think the gossip happens? Yeah.

Like if you want tea, if you want storyline driven, put some women in bed, let them talk their nonsense. Heck, even look at the boys when they were out on the little hammock and stuff. They're gonna talk some junk. Bed is where the dreams happen. Literally. What are our thoughts on part one

of the Summer House reunion? I mean, I loved it. I felt like for the first time, I really got to see who Sierra is, like where she comes from. Because I feel like all I knew about her until then was the relationship she's got into and like they were all toxic.

Now I understand where it's coming from. Like she does have, for lack of a better term, daddy issues, but she also has mommy issues because her mom also ends up in these relationships. So I felt like I learned so much about her, which I really loved. I feel like Sierra has kind of, like she's put that stuff out there.

And I sometimes take umbrage, I think, with like the, you need to like lay all of your trauma bare to be seen as a valid person and a whole person. Like I wish they would give her a more well-rounded story because there's so much to Sierra. Sierra has been a nurse, an ER nurse, like all of these different things that make up her.

She's a model. Like there's so much to her story that could be fleshed out that she does not get, and it's just like, who's she with? Who's she with? Who's she with? Who's she with? And then, Jesse Solomon. I do not like that this man's smoke is being put on both of these women. Like, he is sitting there playing a game. Lexi said on Watch What She Say on Watch What Happens Live that he told her like, oh, like, well, I'm trying to do like with Wes and Wes got some clout off Sierra. I he said that she said that he told her that he was like

he saw what Wes did with Sierra and that he was like trying to mess around for clout. And I think that he has these two women going against each other. And yes, like Lexi could have like worked on those female relationships too. But do I think that he was probably like, oh, like this girl doesn't like you, this girl doesn't like you. So that way he can still continue to say stuff and make moves behind the scenes. So that way it's like she does want to stay alienated from those other women and not form those relationships

cause she already thinks they hate her. And so I think that he's trying to keep everybody pit against each other. And then it's like, he said that joke right in front of Sierra's face, like standing there like, I was just trying to like make her feel good. She doesn't need you to feel good. Yeah.

Like he calls everything a joke and I'm like, I know, and Lexi's like, it's not funny. Yeah. Yeah. None of it is funny. And also, have you been watching the videos that they post from like behind the scenes of like Sierra as Brantley? Yeah.

And like, no. So Sierra dressed up for one of their parties as like her nightmare of like the guy six five and finance. Yeah. Kyle posted these videos of her just like throwing that thing in a circle having a blast like it was amazing into character I love it yeah I'd like and then she did the video with like the brawny guys oh yeah they did like the little wait like what Brittany did like one of those commercial

things yeah but she's like it's like the brawny guys come to the house and they're like whatever is it you what are thoseallari was dating they used to go to the Montana Yeah, those little oh, they go to the camera He just did something like that too, and they were all in her kitchen But I don't know if it was the Montana boys or no like it was the same guys that were in that video But they were like with at the end of it here comes like blonde sierras Apparently like as funny like like dude and thing it was I love that And at the end of it, here comes blonde Sierras Brantley. As the last dude in the thing. It was amazing.

I love that. I will say too, just meeting Jesse Solomon recently at Coachella, but then up front and being in New York and hanging out with him, I'm like, he is exactly who he is on TV. Like the second I met him, just exuded that Jesse Solomon summer house. I'm like, I feel like I know you.

And it was like, we just met. But then about two weeks ago, my phone's ringing at like, I don't know, 10, 11 p.m. Jesse Solomon is calling me. And I'm like, is this a butt dial? Like, do I answer? So I was curious. So I answered it and he just needed my advice

about a situation that he was in. And yeah, but then I hear someone in the background and I'm like, do you have me on speaker motherfucker? Like you got to give a girl a warning and I'm like, who is this? And like, oh, it's his best friend, like so and so. And I was like, hi. I was like, yeah, your friend got himself into a predicament. So here's my advice. And I'm curious, because obviously, Jesse flirts with everyone.

Did you feel like when he met you, he was like flirty with you? Just like, he knows you're obviously married. But like, OK, so here's the thing I'll say about Jesse and Marciano is that from the second I met them, a very flirty vibe, but in a platonic, never crossing the line sort of way. But absolutely, very flirty vibe, but in a platonic, never crossing the line sort of way. But absolutely, very flirty and complimenting

right in front of my husband. And if you had been single, you might think like, oh, this guy is into me. Yes, that is the vibe he gives. That's wild. Yeah, he's so much fun. I had a blast with him. I know, but I'm just imagining like being in front of like

Brock and just seeing like, you know what I'm gonna do Real slick to your wife First of all, it's me Jesse Solomon Joe Bradley Shep and Brock and it was just We're walking back to the hotel together and The boys wanted to smoke a joint, so I was like, oh, I'm gonna walk back with you, and said, yeah.

And then I'm like wondering, I'm like, does Brock remember that like, Shep and I made out, and I couldn't remember if he remembered, he doesn't listen to the podcast, but as we're just like all out together, and then like him and Shep are like growing out and But I mean Brock like he literally works with one of my ex-boyfriends like he's Not a jealous type or anything like that whatsoever. And I mean him and Carl are friends too when

Max and For Brock anyway, I feel like I'm like walking down like Bravo laying in memories and it's Yes and no so I've had good and bad makeouts with chef Okay, depends on how much we were drinking because it got real sloppy after Too many drinks. Okay. Yeah, I'll say that but also yes Anyway Too many drinks. Okay. Yeah, I'll say that but also yes, okay anyway

Okay, let's see still with summer house they're too old to be sharing a summer house No, I don't believe in ageism I feel like live your life like if they want to have you can't go vacation with your friend I'm a winkle or whatever. I'd let her in the summer house. I mean, I would wanna still do that with my friends. Yeah. I think, why not? Listen, I am all for people having a life. Just because you are a certain age

doesn't mean that your life needs to stop. And people like, you can't wear this, you can't do this. You know what? I was driving over, not driving over here, but earlier this you can't do this you can't you know what it's I was driving over not driving over here but earlier this morning, I saw this thing and this lady was like our Hairstyles are ruled by Saturn and this is what Betty White would look like if you modernized her hairstyles And I was like we can't even like die in peace without people Like get your entire life together.

No, let them people live their life. Let them be in their summer house. Bring back summer house, Marsa Spingard and let us live in peace. And while you're at it, Southern Charms, New Orleans. Yes, immediately. Yeah, I think whatever, share a house when you're however old, who cares?

Okay, Hannah should come back to Summerhouse. Yes. See, that's a popular opinion. I think that she has just done so much more. I don't think that she could. I mean, like, she should come back to like, I want to see her more on TV. So like if it was a different show, not her coming back to. I could see her and Paige like sharing more of their sort of giggly squad life or that sort of thing. I think yeah in that respect

I really would like to see them do like how they did the valley like do the city and just take those girls and let like They're fascinating. They all have stuff going on. They have careers. I want to see their actual lives I don't want to see them like I got to get through another weekend slug I want them to go and just like show us what they're doing. They're doing so much. But I also understand an apprehension if you're like, do I have to give a portion of this if I talk about it? That's valid. Yeah.

Okay, moving on to Southern Charm. Catherine Dennis was a victim of grooming and abused mentally by Thomas. Ooh, I never watched that show, so what do we think? I mean, oh God, this is a complicated one. It's complicated. Catherine Dennis, if you go and you look back at the beginning of this show, for all that you can say, Catherine was like

20 something years. Like she was very, very young at the time. And so you do have all of these people, she's like got a great pedigree, like she's got this background, her family lineage is like goes back to like presidents. And so of course they're like, but she's also young and kind of dumb, not dumb,

but I mean like young and just like naive. And so you do have all of these men that are coming at her. Like, and they all did, Shep, Whitney, Craig, all of them came for Catherine. And then you have somebody like Thomas who's then like, oh, I'm gonna take care of you, I'm gonna do this. But they had this such a tumultuous relationship. But the way he messed with her head was so,

it was very intense the way that he expected her to be all of these things, especially like after she had the first baby. He expected her to be all of these things, especially like after she had the first baby. He expected her to be all of these things and like he would trash her and talk horribly about her and treat her horribly. She tried to fit into this mold that he wanted her to be in when she was making salmon and putting mayonnaise on it.

I really do think that Catherine's life because of the way that, obviously like people are gonna come at you. These are a lot older men that were coming at her and setting her up for this. And I do feel there is a little bit of ownership that needs to be taken on, especially on the side of Mr. Rabanel.

Yeah. The problem is in the South though, also I feel like women like Catherine, and I don't know, you know, her mother has passed away, so, you know, rest in peace. But I think they're sort of raised by women that also teach them to sort of remain naive because that's how you're going to get married off and things like that. So it's like it's complicated because even if they do know better,

they're not really taught or it's not respectable in Southern culture to do that if you want to find a rich husband to take care of you. So it's very, yeah, it's the Southern way, which is why I think Paige was like, I'm out of here. Right. Fuck this. And it is raising a family here. You have that layer of like, yeah, it is respectability. I grew up in Georgia and Kentucky and Alabama. So like the way that you are expected to like by 23,

you're like, oh my God, I'm not married. I'm not engaged. I don't have prospects. I don't have, it is like that, that mindset where you start feeling like you're old and your life is over because you're not married and you don't have all those things. And that mindset will get to you because everyone's like,

well, if you do that, nobody's gonna wanna marry you. If you do that, nobody wants to buy the cow when they get the milk for free. It's very much that kind of a world. Yeah. Speaking of Kentucky, Brittany was only accepted by the VPR girls because they didn't see her as a threat. I mean, I don't think that. I mean, maybe some of them, but certainly not me.

And not Katie, because Katie and her, like the two of us developed a friendship with Brittany quickest. Yeah, I just always assume sort of in that group, any partner you bring in is just accepted by the group because it's your friend's partner. Yeah. Scandival.

You're like, no. Scandival was planned. Absolutely not. No, God. I doubt we've had in any way, shape or form. What about me? Scandival was planned. Absolutely not. No. No. I doubt believe that in any way, shape or form. What about me? Sheena was Miami girl and Vegas girl.

Ew! What? What did we? Miami girl? I thought we met Miami girl. We did. Watch the show people, know your history. No, but people.

Sheena was not Miami girl. Miami girl is a whole nother person. People do think I'm Vegas girl. And that when I was talking about how he made out with a friend of mine, that I was just talking about me and like getting my guilt out in that way, I was like, no, no, no. It was someone different that I was talking about, which also aired on the show. I remember seeing it where he tells Katie they're sitting in the back of the Sir Alley

and he says that he like made out with my friend Kate. And I'm like, of course, Katie, Kate. But it was another girl who, she was on first season. She was my choreographer for the Roxy. Used to work with her at Villablanca. So I'm like, no, no, no, that was Vegas. But I was like, I think it might've been someone else also. He was like a makeout slut and he

Yeah, but were you at a cheerleading competition when he kissed me. Yes for my little sister. She was in high school Okay, yeah, and then I have my lore correct. Yeah, no and then literally, I did not tell anyone about that for so many years. I buried it. I just didn't say anything. And then one time I remember opening up to my friend Jamie, and I don't even remember how it got brought up. We were talking about something and I was like, do not ever repeat this. But like, I've never told a soul this.

And then after we filmed season 10, I remember sitting down with Lala and telling her I was so glad that I had COVID and wasn't able to attend the season finale. Because if I saw Katie just screaming at Raquel, I would have just blindly protected Raquel and defended her and probably been like, he tries to make out with everyone. He tried to make out with me.

And I'm like, thank God that I wasn't there to have that moment. And I like told Lala that and she's like, wait, what? And I'm like, I know. I'm like, I think I've told like one person this before, but like, and she was like, never bring that up. But even in that situation, what?

Even in that exact situation where she was talking talking her mama crazy. Not to Terry. Don't you dare disrespect Terry Maloney. No. But if I saw Katie yelling at her and didn't have any context, I probably would have just jumped in because I would have felt bad for little puppy dog Raquel. But then somehow season 11 we're filming and this gets brought up. Certainly not by me. I've only told a couple people,

Schwartz says he didn't tell anyone, but I'm like, so how does production know? How is this getting brought up now? Schwartz is like, I didn't tell anyone. And then, but then he told Lala in that scene or whatever. So honestly, no clue how it became a thing, but I certainly didn't ever want to film about that. Way to end the show.

Okay, next, Jax is worse than Sandoval. You know, Sandoval did get pardoned by Trump in the onion. So I feel like. That was hilarious. And now he's filming House of Villains. Yeah, so, you know, like, I feel like, you know, we haven't seen Sandoval enough recently. He's actually been off of the grid, which is why I was wondering

who's filming something. So I was like, we haven't actually seen him in a while. Where I feel like Jax has been in our face every week with the Valley for us to not be like, this is this not the most terrible man on earth? Like, we can't help but think he's worse. There's Jesse loli also. Last one for the valley, the valley is better without Jack's. Well, you know, I'm interested to see what happens when he gets out of rehab.

I've this is my feeling on it, and I feel like I know that everyone's like, get this man off my television, get this man off my television get this man off my television but if I am being 100% honest about it, I want a camera on that man because I feel like if there is not a camera on him like there is no telling the like Absolute narcissistic atrocities that he would rage out on Brittany and I feel like she's a lot safer with that man on the camera I mean she was she said she was down in Miami swim week this weekend and he was rage texting her. I know because I guess a follower was like, I saw Britney out to dinner

and she was with some brunette and the bunch of guys and good for her. My business. Britney said there was no guys, but either way, even if there was, you know, this man is going to start rage. Don't let this woman get harassed. Like don't send stuff to like, I think people wanna rile him up because they do think it's funny.

But also like protect the woman. Like she does not need this. Yeah. And also, I mean, I'll give it up to Stassi. She looked fucking incredible. Like looked so good. But all I saw about Swim Week was Stassi and like nothing about Britney in the press and I'm like they both did it

Britney looked beautiful. So I just want to give her her flowers as well. She did cup sheet and then Stassi. I think it's because Stassi and Bethany walked back to back So that's kind of like the storyline. Bethany Frankel? Yeah. Oh really? They bumped booty. That was who like walked right before Stassi I didn't even pay. I just thought it was some model walking up. I wasn't paying attention. Bethany had been talking about it nonstop. Oh, no. Listen, you got to give that girl her proper because she

looked good. Yeah. She did. Bethany? Yes. Oh, OK. I mean, whoever was before Stassi, I couldn't stop staring at her ass.

It was so amazing. Yeah, I think that was fun. So then it was Stassi, and then I just was fixated on Stassi until she walked off. I didn't even pay attention to the other person. I was like, holy shit, she looks so fucking amazing. Yeah, I think that it was Stassi and then I just was fixated on Stassi until she walked off I didn't even pay attention to the other person. I was like, holy shit. She looks so fucking good. Yeah, Stassi is a Yeah gorgeous woman and I like maybe I maybe I will go to the gym after this Thank you. I have two kids Works out she just is naturally blessed. Well, now we hate her again.

Yeah, but she looked really fucking good. OK, moving on to some more. But first, OK, wait, one last quick break. There's so much to talk about today. OK, we're back. Hulu is the place to go for your favorite reality TV, Hulu Gets Real. You love reality TV, right?

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to some miscellaneous unpopular opinions. First one being every show is trying its best to reinvent Scandival. For a minute it did seem like it stopped picking the cameras back up when nothing interesting has happened. Especially if you're not going to tell us everything that is happening. It's just like, here's an update. I saw the update on Reality Blur. Like I'm good. It's okay. Next, I totally agree when people get mad at their castmates for not being forthcoming about what's actually happening

in their lives or hiding specific things. If you really don't want to be judged or perceived by strangers, good and bad, you probably shouldn't be on reality TV. That's a hard question because I've never done reality. So it's like, I don't even know what's expected of you. And it's just like, can you keep any part of yourself? Like, is that allowed? No, no, it's like, I don't even know what's expected of you. And it's just like, can you keep any part of yourself? Like, is that allowed?

No, no, it's not. And this is actually something I open up about in my book. It's available if you didn't know this already for pre-order at my goodsidebook.com. But just about times when I have done that, time season five, when I wasn't forthcoming about what Shay and I were actually going through but I talked about his addiction which you know I

will always regret that wasn't my place to put on national television but I was hiding something else but at the season five reunion which probably no one remembers I do remember a bit of this coming up but I don't remember if it aired but it is in my book, so anyway. Next, Bravo needs to focus, you're like, what the fuck is she talking about? I know, I remember her. I was trying to think about your lashes and like the.

Okay, Bravo needs to focus less on casting and get back to real groups of friends. That'd be nice, but it's a no, it depends on the show. It's just so hard, because I think we live in a climate now where production companies, all they see are numbers. So it's like, they're gonna go to people that like, do you have a big following?

Cause you need to bring the audience. We don't even care. And it's like, if there are like good people that just are entertaining, who cares if they have the following? They'll bring the following. If you build it, they will come. Yeah.

It's like Angela Oakley. Angela Oakley is a fantastic addition to Real Housewives of Atlanta. And she's also somebody they've been trying to cast for years onto the show. And now she's there and she's shining and standing out in the season where you brought back like two high-powered vets.

Yeah. And I don't know necessarily. I like seeing like the people that know each other. I think that was always the magic of Vanderpump Rules was like there was already stuff. There was already beef. There were already these extra layers because everybody knew each other in these various ways. And also because a restaurant is just the craziest place in the world to exist and try like it doesn't matter what restaurants you go to everybody is like like, I was about to say something,

I had to remember like, keep it PG real quick, but everybody is touching and talking, so shall we say. And like that's, it's natural, it's genuine when you see people hanging out like that. I like to see people, like it doesn't feel weird to me that you would be on the Valley. Like if I text you and I'm like, Sheena, what are you doing?

I'm here with Janet. And like, that's your legit life life so that part of it is always weird to me because it's like that's your real life those are your real friends I think that people want this version of real friends where it's like a show like friends where everybody is hanging out and doing all this stuff but we're grown yeah and we got lives but, we are like together when we can be. Mm-hmm. Totally The housewife glam teams have got to go. I Mean, I don't need them to be flown out for every trip because I do want to just do your own makeup

Yeah, wake up and just like go to the pool and just yeah, you know, but I also need you to like get it together when there's and just like, you know, but I also need you to like, get it together when there's a event. I don't need to like, yeah. Yeah, no, for events, for interviews, there should always be glam provided and on set for touch-ups. We don't have that. Listen, I just wanna say in the Dungeons and Dragons world,

when I walk onto those sets, I have glam. So I like, I'm just saying, bravo, you can do glam of critical role and Dimension 20 can do glam, that like, I'm just saying bravo. You can do glam with Critical Role and Dimension 20 can do glam. That's all I'm gonna say. But I do love to see how Soives doing their own glam on trips. It's not every cast member who brings glam.

And so when you see them just in the mirror doing their own makeup, I'm like, real. I love that. Kyle sitting on the floor doing her glam. Yes, but I love that. But it's like also, I mean, yes, I do get my makeup done. Two things can be true and real at the same time. So I do like when you get to see both sides of it.

Okay, a couple more of these. Bravo is working with the CIA because how many housewives who led normal lives after being on the show ended up in prison are in really big legal trouble? No, the government has just now have departments dedicated to following these people because they realize like realize like oh we have like a whale here Like yeah, we're just flashing money, and we don't know how they're affording right there is another one attached to that

I believe there are IRS and FBI agents that watch all of the housewives franchises and then do their homework on their finances Mm-hmm absolutely. It's the only department of the IRS I work for finances. Absolutely. The only department of the IRS I've worked for. Would you imagine your whole job is just to watch excessive spending on Bravo and reality television? Yeah. OK, next, they need to go a lot trashier with their housewives, not rich influencers.

Let's see what the real housewives of Myrtle Beach are up to. I think there's other shows for that. I think that housewives, we do want some opulence and all of that. And I think there's other shows for that. I think that Housewives, we do want some opulence in all of that. And I think there's other shows where we can see what it is. Yeah, like the other sides of humanity.

I want to see a housewife who's overweight, broke, and happily married. Well, you know. Yeah. Maybe, depends on how entertaining she is. Yeah, what city? Yeah. No, I want to see, like, I want them to go to a city that is just like random, because

those small towns, like I'm from Columbus, Georgia. Columbus, Georgia has like Aflac money. There's like T-SIS money, all of these like small companies, but they also have like deep levels of resentment and all this kind of stuff. And like the level of shade that you can get from like old money people in the South, like you can't recreate that. And I would love to see somebody's grandma sitting up on Housewives.

Like we need, that's what we need. We need more of like the mama Elsas. Like we need somebody's grandma sitting up there judging with her whole chest. Yeah. I know, imagine like Sutton's mother, like a whole group of her friends. I can't even imagine.

Reba's mom, yes. Oh, I would watch that. Right? I might stop after a couple of seasons. It might get a little hurtful, but I'm gonna watch it. Yeah, exactly. I feel it's every episode, like damn. Like what did she just say?

Am I am I am I am I feeling hurt or am I feeling convicted? Yeah. Last one, Tabitha Takeover needs to come back. Yes. All of those old early. What other shows would you want to see? Oh, like work like, yeah, work out the hair. What was the hair salon guy the Who's has Dean no? Is his sister Anton and then? Anton and his brother hair salon show or whatever wait. What was no what was the one with?

They rose Tabitha salon takeover, and then was the strong lady Jackie Werner was the workout yes, takeover and then was the strong lady. You know who I'm talking about. Jackie Werner was the workout. Yes. And then, and then Jonathan Anton had the hair salon. I just want Tabitha Takeover to come back. Cause I love when she walked in, I'm taking over. Yeah. And she like had the same energy as that lady

from The Weakest Link. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Family Karma. Did you guys ever watch that? I didn't. Oh my God. I want Family Karma. Did you guys ever watch that? I didn't. Oh my God. I want Family Karma to be back so bad right now because. The popular opinion for you. No. Do you like, are you like aware of like what happened this weekend?

Yeah. I just saw. So do you want to fill us in on the drama? Okay. So one of the big storylines that was always running along was like Monica and Rish like were like, will they they won't they get engaged? He was kind of like a little Peter Panish. So they've been engaged or whatnot. And so she posted a picture on her story the other day of like, as he said, out of context condoms on the dresser. And she's like, these DMs from this lady that was like,

we just kissed. He said like, he was single blah, blah, blah. And she's like these DMs from this lady that was like we just kissed. He said like he was single blah blah blah and she's like blasting him. He's like no we've actually been broken up for a month. Here's video camera footage from the hallway of her moving her stuff out of my apartment with her friends. Family Karma like I want Brian Benny. I want Anitra. I want all of them back on my television. They didn't get the promo that they deserved. Family Karma is such a good show. Like I love seeing Southeast Asians just shining.

The aunties on the show are just like, that's what I'm talking about. The aunties on that show, like everybody needs to have somebody's auntie they're judging. It is fantastic. Go on Peacock, watch it, run the numbers up, bring them back,

because I want to see this play out on my television. I don't want to read about it. I'm tired. My eyes hurt. I got macular degeneration. Put it on my TV. One thing you left out is it was magnum condoms. Okay. And I know Monica doesn't listen to shenanigans, or at least I don't think she does,

but it's like, we were just talking about this. Never post, never say that your ex has a big dick. Why are you posting that he needed Magnum? Yeah, no, like exactly. Like now he's never, he's definitely gonna have his DMs blowing up. Wait, were you doing it because of the secret lives of Mormon wives thing? Wait, oh, no, we were talking about Marciano,

because Hannah said it, and then yes, and then the Jordan thing, that's how a cop brought it up. I'm just like, no, small dick. They finish quickly. Always say that, whether it's true or not. I don't know. Anyway, so that was a lot of unpopular opinions, and that was just some of them.

There were so many on this thing, but that was good. Last story I wanna do to wrap up this hot topics episode is about Kim K. So I don't know if you guys have heard this before. I know I think it was on the show, though, because I remember hearing this or watching it. Allegedly, after Kim Kardashian gave birth to North, there was someone in her inner circle who was leaking information. So Kim gave out distinct and fake pictures to a few different people who she suspected,

and one of those photos turned up. So she absolutely knew which person it was because she sent a different photo to each person. So the streets and the comment sections, you know, are saying this was what allegedly led to Kim's falling out with her makeup artist, Joyce Benelli. Again, all alleged. But what do you think on this?

Do you think it was smart on her? Cause I certainly do. Yeah. But it's also like sad, you know, that she had to deal with this betrayal and go to such lengths to find out who she can trust. But if I had to do that, Yeah.

I would do that as well. Well, have you done that? Well, I talk a little bit about, and not with my kid but a similar Situation that happened to me last summer in my book and I had to go to three people And you gave them like each different information kind of oh, yeah It was it was finding out who the leak was and I got to the bottom of it. I mean, I always said if I was like a public personality

and I did feel like these things were weird, I would absolutely do that. I mean, I would hate to think that I have to like, for the people I trusted trick them like that, but it clearly might be the only way sometimes, which is crazy. Yeah. So you found, well, I guess we're gonna find out

if we read, but like you found the link. And I'm sure once like the book is out and people read it, there's so many things that when I was just recording my audio book, I'm like, fuck, I wish I said more here. I wish I went into this more. And then there was something, I was recently at dinner with Alex Baskin and he was asking about some stuff and I told him a story and he goes, is that in the book?

And I'm like, wait, shit. I'm like, I don't remember if I put it in the book or if it was in one of the drafts and it got taken out. But I'm like, if it's not in the book, you will be surely hearing about it on the podcast. And then I did my whole audio book and I was like, fuck, it's not in the book. So I'll fill in holes for sure once it's out in the world

because it could have been a hundred pages longer. You know, like there were so many things where it's like, what world, because it could have been 100 pages longer. You know, like there were so many things where it's like, what are people gonna care about? What are things that people have never heard and have no idea about? Like I just told you about my chapter three story, which you're like, I never heard any of this. And I'm like, yeah, people don't know.

I, it was something I compartmentalized for many years. And now I'm telling it in detail because something unlocked it and I just remembered everything. I'm curious because, you know, they say that if you have dreams where you're like naked, it's like you are feeling like very exposed. I'm curious, like after reading, writing this memoir,

have you been having dreams lately where you're naked or you're feeling very exposed or anything like that? Not that I can recall. I feel like I've not been remembering dreams lately. Okay. But that is interesting. That's, yeah, after I did the audio book, I saved the last two chapters for the third day.

I could have finished it in two days, but I knew the last two chapters were gonna be the third day. I could have finished it in two days, but I knew the last two chapters were gonna be the most challenging. It's one thing when I cry on this podcast, you listen to it once and, you know, whatever, I was sobbing. But for an audio book, something that's like timeless, that maybe we'll be listened to more, and, you know, by I'm sure more people,

I felt like I needed to speak with conviction but emotion but not be like and so it was like having to take a Xanax before I did those two chapters take two deep breaths say one sentence and then like hold back tears like it was part of it was quite challenging. I'm like, but it's it's good. So yeah anyway Okay, Jack's hole of the week reacting to Cassie's testimony in the P diddy trial Comedian Bill Maher said on real time with Bill Maher that a new hashtag me to rule should be that Women need to leave their abuser after the first defense tell Tell the police right away, don't wait a decade, don't keep fucking him.

Shut the fuck up. Goodbye, Bill. Goodbye, you are my jacks hole. It's like everyone can sit there and judge until it's actually them in a situation. You can say like, if this ever happened to me, I would leave. You don't know until you're in a situation

how you're going to react. You can tell your friends, give advice what they should and shouldn't do. But until it's you, you don't fucking know. Yeah. So Bill Maher is a jerk. And if you ever want to hear like a funny story about how creepy is, listen to the interview that Shanna Mokler did with Bunny Exo or Exo Bunny. Oh, OK. Where she talks about how when she was in Hollywood and she went on a date with Bill Maher and like, you'll just laugh your ass off because he's such a dork.

That's crazy. I always think about him in Corinne Stephens' book. Oh God, that too. Yeah, but that fucker. It's like, how about instead of telling women what to do, focus on telling men not to abuse women. Like, let's try that and stop speaking for women. I hate that.

And I also saw that it was something like 75% of women who were killed by their partners when they're attempting to leave or have just left an abusive relationship. So like shut the fuck up. Anyway, thank you guys so much for listening. And thank you Kiki and Christina for joining me in the studio. Make sure to listen to Kiki and Christina for joining me in the studio. Make sure to listen to Kiki weekdays

on Radio Andy's Reality Checked and you can follow Christina on socials. It's Christina Ariel and all over Dropout TV. And again, if you haven't already, please pre-order my book at my goodsidebook.com. We'll be back next week and can't wait to get into more Shenanigans with you guys. Bye.

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