SciShow Tangents - Bonus Backlog Bonanza - Ep. 16

Episode Date: June 17, 2025

This bonus episode was originally posted on Patreon on June 30, 2022 titled "SciShow Tangents Livestream!"SciShow Tangents is on YouTube! Go to www.youtube.com/scishowtangents to check out this episode with the added bonus of seeing our faces! And go to https://complexly.store/collections/scishow-tangents to buy some great Tangents merch!While you're at it, check out the Tangents crew on socials:Ceri: @ceriley.bsky.social@rhinoceri on InstagramSam: @im-sam-schultz.bsky.social@im_sam_schultz on InstagramHank: @hankgreen on X

Worms can happen between 1.1 and 5.3. We're live now, Sarie. Oh, we're live. Hello. Okay, you have to be in, hi everybody. I'm trying to figure out how to play worms. So, Sarie's gonna be interesting for a second. Okay.

Yeah, hi everybody. Thanks for joining the SciShow Tangents live stream. I don't even know where this is going. Is it going to YouTube? Patreon. Well, it's on our YouTube, but it's for our Patreon patrons. Got it. So it's on the YouTube channel, but it's a secret video.

Yeah, thanks for being Patreon supporters because I am a contractor for Tangerine where my money comes from. So I appreciate being able to do the podcast with my friends. Were you friends? Yeah, my friend, I think. Hank is still on the fence.

You've got to say one nice thing about me. Oh, he said nice things about you before, probably. Probably at some point, but I don't remember it. So that means it's been a while. Yeah, I live off of praise. So I made it's been a while. I live off of praise. So I made it to feed me. Me too. Don't we all?

Yeah. And why are we doing a live stream? We're doing a live stream because someone, not gonna name names, got sick and has COVID. And someone else also not gonna name names. When we were recording a Dear Sari and Sam, lost their half of the audio. No, I didn't lose it.

I recorded it into the wrong input. Oh, so it just sounded bad? It sounded really bad. And I was like, maybe this is okay. But then I listened to it and I couldn't understand a damn word I was saying. So not okay. I thought we were really funny.

That's like the saddest thing. And I don't know if we could, I feel like I would just repeat the jokes if we recorded it again. I alternatively am okay with the fact that we lost that episode. Not our strongest episode. We went a little off the rails at the end. Yeah. Especially.

You know, I got to hand it to him, to Hank and John. It's hard to do that. To not go off the rails? Oh, to give advice. Yeah. Yeah, we've turned it mostly into a comedy podcast. There's very no sincere advice in it. Yeah. Should I go to the link? Can you give me the link behind the scenes so I can see if someone's chatting to us and interact with them? Oh, I don't know. Let me see.

There's a private chat. I can see private chat. You can see private chat? Yeah, in the stream yard. Where it says, we are all here for lack of rails That's no, I can't see that. Can you message me a discord maybe? I don't know. Oh, you can just see that. Oh and comments. Yeah, nevermind. Nevermind That's what I'm looking at. But then also there's the discord. I

Don't know if people are talking to us there either. Oh, no, no. I don't think people are. Well, let's see. They're probably talking to us in both places. Oh my gosh. Oh, me waiting for the fly street. So excited.

Thank you. Hi everyone. Sorry I couldn't see you. I just don't know how Stream Arts works. I can interact with you. Yeah, I will want to, I'll leave Sam's judgment about whether you should release my audio. Is it more embarrassing or less embarrassing

that you're not gonna do audio? Probably more. Well, a lot of it's just nothing, so. Yeah, a lot of it's just garbage. Yeah, a lot of it just really sucks. Yeah, but I guess if you wanna hear it, I wouldn't mind. I have no shame. I do have a lot of shame. Yeah. That's the least true thing I've ever heard you say. Yeah.

I think here's the summary of what we talked about. Someone had an aunt's trapped in their computer screen. Yeah. Was that one of you with the aunt's trapped in their computer screen? Yeah. Was it you? Cause that seems very sad. How did that really shake out? I'm curious. We did ask probably between seven and 10 times for you to contact us about something. Yeah.

And tell us how it went. We did. Cause one solution was, I'm just gonna do the Dear Sam and Sarah. Yeah, just redo the episode that we did. Yeah, we talked about the idea of turning your monitor, it's no longer yours, it's the ant's. So you turn it into an ant farm at that point,

you just dump it in dirt, or like put the monitor in some dirt, and then you start an ant colony, obviously. And if the ant's dead, then you put a little sticky note over the computer to hide it so you don't have to look at it and be reminded of death every time you log on to your computer. Yeah.

Also good. Yeah. These are two really good ideas. So that was an advice, I think. That was an advice for an advice podcast. The problem was it took us about 45 minutes to get there. Yeah. Yes.

What else did we talk about? I know we did the tech industry thing, because I told my partner Sylvia this after we recorded, where we did the tech industry thing where in Silicon Valley they reinvent something very basic, like public transportation. They're like, okay, what if we had Uber and Lyft, but it carried multiple people and the fare was really reduced for those people. What if instead of bringing you directly to your destination, it brings you along routes of frequently traveled paths and it's like you invented a bus?

My guy. So we did that with phone sex. We invented phone sex. We did? How do you remember anything? I don't remember anything. I remember it because I was so deeply embarrassed afterward. Well, it started with us leaving you. You could pay a cameo fee for me and Sam to leave you a wake up message. We just like cheer you on for your day like, good morning, you can do this. You tell us what tasks

you have and we're like, we believe in you. And I think one of us signed off. I was like we love you and then Sam made a little smoochy noise And then you gotta pay extra for the smoochy noise, right? Hey extra for the smoochy noise, right? and Then we were like, well, what other noise? Besides the smoochy noise or just the smoochy noise? And then we invented... You're really good at vamping for time. Thank you.

Well, it's been, according to this, six minutes, 35 seconds. I think I figured it out. And the chat has completely stopped talking for me. Yeah, start talking to a shout. I'm having problems Yeah, I can answer your questions. I all single-handedly answer your questions or rally Sam to We're supposed to play worms the game where we are. We get in I downloaded it Yesterday two days ago. Mm-hmm Well, they were listening rapidly to you good you Oh, good. You were listening raptly.

I'm glad I can be a little bit entertaining. This is fine. If you just want to passively listen, like you listen to your podcasts, I'll just talk. You're doing dishes. Can you do that? Can you just talk and talk and talk? I think so. I think if I try hard enough.

You can't do that. Yeah. I'm not as good at it as Hank, but I can do it. I love this for all of you doing dishes. People doing dishes over there? Two people are doing dishes independently. I did my dishes before this. Hey, Siri, see if you can join my game now. Okay. I want to see. I want to try multitasking and talking.

That's hard. I see. If you could safely domesticate. Oh. That was my Siri. If you could safely domesticate any kind of animal as a pet, what would it be? I don't know. Well, that's not a very good answer.

It would be a. You're not allowed to just say, I don't know. Yeah, okay. I'll think of a good answer. It would be a Oh Definitely like a bird of prey because they I feel like they could fly and deliver messages to my friends That's a really good idea, but we can safely domesticate those Not inside. Oh

Like an indoor pet. I would love a raccoon cause I'm gonna just be like fun. I don't like a guy with hands who could like eat chips out of a bag with me. A little guy's little hands. It's not working, Sam. It's not working still. Make sure that the host connection is not blocked by a firewall router or ISP. Oh, wait, wait. I fucked up.

I screwed up, excuse me. That's a little dirty, Sam. How's it being a contractor? I like it a lot, but I'm also a full-time job somewhere else. I have a job in Massachusetts now as a digital coordinating producer, which is... This is a Patreon livestream. It's less interesting than what I did in Complexly.

I make digital games and I'm less involved in the creative part of the process, so it's a lot of spreadsheets and meetings and grant proposals and whatnot. But I love doing tangents. I'm really, really glad that I was able to stay on as it. I'm gonna exit the thing. And yeah, it's wild that I get paid to do this because when it was part of my day job, even though I got paid to do it as part of my salary,

I don't know, it didn't feel like that. It felt like it blended in with everything else for Complexly. Thank you for listening politely. You don't have to be polite, but I appreciate it. I'm glad you can keep it on in the background, Simon. I'm scrolling down. Now you chatted a lot when we called you. Yeah. Somebody said consider the raccoon. I did consider the raccoon and I picked that for my answer. Yeah, you did. What's your favorite thing about Hank?

Oh, um. Hey, Sarah, try to sign into the game again now and I'll say my favorite thing. Oh, I don't know, I don't have one. No, I love it. You can't say I don't know, you can't say I don't know, Sam. I like a lot of stuff about Hank. He's very funny, I think even though sometimes

he steals our jokes, I still think he's funny. I don't know if that's my favorite thing about him. Yeah, maybe he's oh, I know what it is. He can make anything interesting, which is crazy. Like we're doing the Patreon podcast on the other Patreon for the regular SciShow. And it's like, we're going through all the QQ questions that we didn't answer for like the past 10 years. And it's just like, how's Hale made? And then he can talk for like 10 minutes about how Hale is made. Cause somehow he knows first of all, unless he's really good at pretending.

Is it not working series out that that look is? No, I'm in. You're in? Oh my God. You're in? Oh my god, you're in. No, I was just like, I was admiring your answer about Hank because that's similar to mine. It's that he is really good at having conversations. And I'm sharing my screen. I can't believe you're in. I did it. I did it. And I feel like it's really uh, Is this the is this our friend? Die Show Tangents?

They're gonna beat us. No, that's me, I'm Die Show Tangents. Oh, you're Die Show Tangents? You didn't make a custom team for yourself? No, of course not. Well, so everybody- I'll do name. Wait, that's, I'm at a disadvantage. I've only got three worms.

Oh no, I'm- You just added another team. I'm so sorry. I took it out But you have a lot more worms than me. That's fine. I know you can click the little click the little click this And you make more no, I'll give you for me Okay now wait now if anybody wants to play You played this game before simon I I used to say so this is my question to you sarah. We'll start playing but um

Well, first I want to figure out how to let other people play So if you have worms go to the connect online go to hashtag party time And the password is this You can just say it can't you? No, no, because it's typed specially. I typed it into the into the chat. I'll type it in over here too. The game is called Sideshow Tangents. I played... So I used to play this game with all my friends well into the early morning hours when I was in grade school. And middle school and high school because it's really fun. Was there any games like that that you would do? I played a lot of Nintendo games and so me and my sister would play late into the night of

like Mario Kart or Animal Crossing like the GameCube version or Pikmin the battle version. But I wasn't really a computer gamer until very recently. I never really, well, we had a family computer and so we were always fighting over it. And whoever had homework had priority, so it wasn't really conducive to a lot of fun. So I played a little bit of Zoo Tycoon and made my animals battle. But other than that, I didn't really play a lot of, a lot of like networky games. In high school, my friends played League of Legends a lot. And so I tried doing that and was- You watched them play it while you did your homework or something.

Is that right? Yeah, that's exactly right. I can't believe you know this much about my life. I used to play Kirby Super Star. Somebody said I played Kirby. I used to play Kirby superstar. Somebody said I played Kirby. I used to play Kirby superstar with my brother. We probably beat that game literally like 75 times. That game is so fun.

The Game Boy version? No, that's the super. There is a Game Boy remake of it, but it was Super Nintendo. I played the Game Boy remake of it rather than the Super Nintendo. Any two player cooperative game, me and my brother would just play forever Okay, I'm gonna push go cuz no one else is uh, you have to push the little light bulbs Harry to show that you're ready To start the game. I'm ready. Okay Let's try it. I guess

Whoa, oh it went full screen Got really big all of a sudden. Mine didn't go full screen. Mine went full screen. Oh, you're first. No, you're first. I am? Yeah, you're looty. Shoot.

You gotta use the arrow keys, remember. I'm trying. I've got to even- It did go full screen. I can't. Oh, now I can see that. Oh, I see. You're playing League of Legends right now. I'm gonna blow myself up. I don't... yeah, you did.

I don't really know what League of Legends is. Is that bad? No, it's like an online multiplayer. Um... I was so sure that you were gonna... Oh, how do I move? Kill myself? Because I was definitely about to. I got really confused that you named one of your worms,

Sari, just like, that's me. There we go. That's you, okay. I'm gonna remember how to play this game someday. I tried to do, I'm sad that I can't see the chat now. I got your ass. I tried, Sam, you're like legitimately accurate at this. So you have to keep in mind that there's a wind.

You see the wind? And your guy's stuck, so you should right click. Should right click? Yeah, you should right click. And then use the little. And use your blow torch or some, probably your blow torch if you have a blow torch to get out of, not the ninja rope, Sarah, you're never gonna get out of there with the ninja rope.

Oh my gosh, I can't find the blowtorch. What's it under, F10? I don't know. I can't see because I'm not playing. Oh wait, yes I can. It's F7, it's F7. Okay, let's go. I see.

Yeah, well, you're still stuck. Still stuck. I went the wrong way. I just went to another stuck place. I went the wrong way, but I'm learning. OK, I'll read you the chat, Sari. Oh, you should have joined, Simon. Look, I'm you now.

I'm going to kill you as yourself. I know, because I don't know what's going on. And look, I'm going to use the shotgun, like you couldn't figure out how to do it. I couldn't figure out the shotgun. I really, tried why what was hard about it? Is it a close distance weapon? Yeah, I Guess so. Oh well now I'm this guy have we decided what the next tangents goal will be Hell, maybe it could be live streams, huh? Huh? We could do lives. We could also watch Hocus Pocus, too Oh, we should watch Hocus Pocus 2.

Oh, we should watch Hocus Pocus and Hocus Pocus 2. Well, I've never seen Hocus Pocus, so we could continue our tradition of like Cars 2, Hocus Pocus 2. You're gonna run out of time, Sarah. You only have, oh, this is me. It's you, yeah. I had two shots on my shotgun, sorry.

Thanks. You should have run out of time. I should have been running. Okay, my... Yes, I like the Hocus Pocus 2 idea. Okay. I'm going to just practice with grenades because that's the one thing I was able to do successfully. Okay.

I'm going to miss. Why did you throw it so hard? Because I don't know how the physics of this game works very good. That's why we picked this game. It has physics. That was my thought. Well, it doesn't, are these worms, worm sized? I guess so.

Yeah, because look, look how tiny they are. But sometimes they're not. How do I shoot my gun? There we go. There's a star. And then you can kind of jump around stuff too. Yeah, I read that you can press enter to jump. Yeah Okay, you've never seen Hocus Pocus, but did you know who Bette Midler was? Kindle? Yeah, and watch it. It's one of my favorite movies

What are you gonna do, Sari? I want wanna do the shotgun, I'm gonna try it. I'm gonna try to get, I'm gonna kill myself. Oh no, my, Oh. Oh good. Double jump, that's what I thought, Simon, but I can't figure it out. That's really sad that I've got my first hit against myself.

Ha ha ha. But, that's fine. Are you playing any games right now, Sarie? I'm playing the Ace Attorney series. Oh yeah, right. Yes, so the gay lawyers, I'm having a great time. I'm on Ace Attorney Investigations 2, which is the one that has, so it's like the

process, you're Phoenix Wright in the main games, the prosecutor is Miles Edgeworth. And so this is like Miles Edgeworth's backstory. And this one was only released in Japan. So I downloaded a version of this that- Oh, an illegal version. Yep. Oh. No, what are you doing?

I don't know. Yeah, well, he made fun of me too. But yes, so it's a fan-translated version. And I'm having a great time. But yes, it is a little illegal. I bought the other ones on Switch and iPad, strangely, because Capcom doesn't like its fans. Oh, it's a Capcom game.

So, sorry, Deboki. Okay, let's see. We're gonna answer some chat questions. Yeah, can you read them to me? Because I am really just trying to focus on this as much as I can. Did you know they just released California Condor into Northern California for the first time in like a century? Yes, I was reading about that. I'm really happy that they're not as endangered. Oh, oops. Okay, now talk about the California condor.

And here's another question you can answer. My seven-year-old, Evie Amy S. asks, would like to know which soil-dwelling animals are really great at helping plants grow. You're doing all kinds of gardening right now. I'm doing all kinds of gardening. Worms, very good. Even though they are invasive species. Oh, I die if I go in the water?

Yeah. That's very sad. I assume, oh, what's going on? Who am I? So worms are good, even though they're not supposed to be here, they're still good. Yes. See if I can do this. Well, what are you doing? I don't know. I have one of them. Okay

Are you gonna kill with a heat seeking missile? Yeah, but I guess I have to click. Yeah, but oh Didn't work. I named up a little bit. Okay, didn't work. I named him up a little bit. Oh, okay. You didn't. That's fine. Did you see everything everywhere all at once, Sari? I haven't yet. I really want to. Now that it's released, we are still not going to movies and theaters.

We haven't reached that stage of pandemic yet. But it's released now. And so I should, oh. I'm sure it'll be on streaming quite soon. It is on streaming, I think. Well, you pay on Amazon to buy it. Oh, okay. There's a good raccoon bit in that. Do you watch Critical Role?

I do not, but I know of it. I don't either. Yeah, there's apparently a 12 hour live stream. Maybe we should go for 12 hours too. Oh, sorry. I'm so sorry. Trying my best here. To be fair, I have not played Worms besides 15 minutes before now.

Oh, good. Great. Great for me. You know I do a bad job too. I hope I become this guy. What are some topics for Tangents episodes that you weren't able to do that you wish you could? Oh. I feel like sometimes we'll come up with a good idea for like a

sad thing or like We don't really want to talk about it's your turn, right? Yeah, you're just considering your move There's probably like a lot of like like cancer I think was a really good episode There's probably stuff in there that we haven't done that maybe not that I wish we could do, but I bet we could do, but maybe it wouldn't be so fun to laugh about, but it would be interesting. So like tricky stuff like that, if that makes sense. Yeah.

I feel like we did, we did viruses before COVID happened. And I feel like the only time we could do it because otherwise it would feel too heavy. I think- Oh no, we did it because of COVID. Is that right? No, we didn't do it because of COVID. We just did it because Devoki does microbiology.

Right. But it came out around that time, right? Yeah. Right, but it came out around that time, right? Yeah What's like your do you have a dream episode oh no, oh no, oh no You caught me really good. Oh, you killed Hank too. But I killed Ali. I killed myself and my other guys too. This is really unfortunate.

Yeah, now all these people are going to die. All these resources. Wow, that was great. And I just teleported over there to kill all those guys. I wasted it. Yeah. I would it. Yeah. I'd say other episodes that we haven't done mostly are too narrow. Like trying to think of an example, we've done eggs, but like

trying to go around body parts like noses or we've done we did like we combined hands and feet instead of doing hands and feet separately. She's because it's really tricky to sometimes find things to research that are within. Oh, it's my turn. broad enough. that allow you to be broad or allow everyone to find a different enough topic. Right. Have we done hair yet?

Yeah, we've done hair, right? I feel like it. I remember talking about the difference between hair and fur. Yeah, I'm pretty sure we've done hair. talking about the difference between hair and fur. Yeah, I'm pretty sure we've done hair. Um, no, I, I would like to be better at physics. I think none of us are physicists and we would need like Henry Wright or Diana Cowan or someone else who's good at physics to. It's really easy to just do biology.

Yeah. Which we shouldn't do. Which we shouldn't do, but... Yeah. Was there anything besides worms for Evie to know about things that help soil? That didn't do what I expected. Wow, what have you done? You did nothing.

I did nothing. I was trying to aim for tuna, which I don't like that you named them after us because that feels, this is already a pretty violent game. Yeah. It makes me sad. It's rated E for everyone. Oh, there's poison on this lab bench.

There's a lizard drowning. He's gonna be fine. This feels bad to me. He's gonna be fine. But yes, I would like to do more physics-y topics. Like stuff with Adam, mostly I just don't know how to parse the information to find what's most interesting.

And I don't know how to explain it in what feels like a satisfactory, exciting way. Yeah. I don't know how to do anything. You know a lot. I know how to research all topics equally poorly. So and sometimes I need your help. Yeah. But that's what friends are for. Where did you get fire punch? What's that? It's like a cool it's like a sure you can from yeah from Street Fighter. I see, I see.

And he probably killed Pala with it. Looks like it. Yeah, you did. Oh, well, I hurt myself too. There's some poop there. Poor Pala. Yeah. Do you have a dream, Gantt Tangents guest?

Oh, okay, Roman Mars would be extremely cool. Oh, okay. Roman Mars would be extremely cool. Oh, yeah. Just because I would like to learn about anything from him and his beautiful radio voice. I think Sydney McElroy would be really fun. She's now extremely unavailable because she's running through. She's the president of the United States now, so we can't get her. No, she's she made it through the primaries, but people still need to vote in November. And yeah, right.

But she's extremely busy. Oh, that's what the ninja rope does. OK, this is you can't hear. Oh, wait. Oh, they can't hear us. I'll fix it. No, they can't hear the game. Oh, I'll fix it. I'll fix it. I feel like that's fine. No, they want to hear the game. Oh. I'll fix it, I'll fix it. I feel like that's fine-ish.

No, they want to hear it. Okay. I wish this wasn't showing full window. Is this showing full window for you? Yeah. That's okay. Mine stayed small. I have to unshare the screen for a second.

Behaving, that's fine. Then I have to share window, worms are mckinnon. Well, no, it's not letting me, it's not letting me share audio just for a window. Oh. I'll share my entire screen. But then, let's try that. Can't talk, Sari.

Okay, I'm talking. Are you gonna see if the chat can still hear us? No, I'm gonna see if you can hear yourself. Oh, I can't hear myself. Okay. Chat, can you hear us and the worms now? The worms aren't that entertaining, honestly. I love the worms.

Well, they say the same three things. They don't really say that much, do they? No. You had it coming. We can do the worm voices just as good as you. We could have done them, yeah. Yeah, yeah, it was fun. Yeah, what a dumb thing to say.

You had it coming. You had it coming. You're a dickhead. Evie also wants to know what the best color is. Oh, the best color? What I think is interesting, the best color. Mm-hmm. Oh, I'm going to try this one again.

Let's see if I can get it. The best color. Oh, I hit my nail. Sorry. Best color. Oh, I hit my- Sorry. What were you trying to do? Hit tuna. Oh, I see. I guess I'm kind of protected now, which is nice. Thanks, my red curtain background

is because we do commitment to live streams too. I just do all kinds of live streams and podcasts. I'm famous. I'm writing on his coattails. I do too much. You know, people say that. I don't know what that means exactly, but I think I do. Like it means you don't rest enough?

What does a skunk do? I think it means I'm like a try hard. No? No, I think it means that people are concerned, like people really enjoy the content you make, but they're worried about you, I don't know. Oh dear. Never stopping or doing too much.

Poisoned yourself. I did. I guess it's still going. It's still going. But a dream guest, so Roman Mars, Sydney McElroy. Sydney McElroy. Both great. Then we'll get back to best color.

What are your dream guests? Oh, you turned it around on me. Yeah. I think it would be fun to get like some, well, I only listen to two podcasts and they Hollywood handbook and your Kickstarter sucks. And they're both comedy podcasts. I'm going to get like a couple Podcasts funny people on We've had like twitch funny people, but I don't think we've ever we haven't had like a ton of A ton of other podcasters on really have we

Yeah, I think Pollination I think I think John would be funny because it was- Oh, John would be great. I have a great idea of what we could do with John. Oh, good. Yeah, I'd like John to be on it. Anyone who works for a dropout, like College Humor's Pod platform would be great.

I'm becoming big fans of them recently. Oh, OK, let's see. Yeah, that would be a good one. Oh, why is this string here? That's not nice. Well, you can jump. You can jump with enter. You're jumping the wrong way though.

Are you jumping backwards, worm? Oh no. Cause you're like at a weird angle. Try jumping from, now turn around, now hit enter. Jump from there. Well, I'm gonna jump from there. No. I only got 15 seconds.

Oh, shoot. Push enter twice really fast. Oh, okay, wait. No, it's not gonna work I'm gonna use the freaking flame thrower that like you taught me if I can do it. Nope. Can't do it fast enough But I want I want john to um I want john to listen to our poems and tell us how bad they are Oh, that would be good like a mini series of us workshopping.

What we think is our best poem. Mm hmm. I think would be really fun. But he's Vanessa would be more of a literary critic, but her poem is lovely. Yeah. So nice. Yeah. She's too nice to be mean about any of our poems, I think. Oh, kills me. That was not good for me. That was a, that was a me move right there.

That was a scary one. Allie Ward from Ologies, we've talked about her before. That would be a good one. Who else would be good? I don't know. You guys tell us who you want to see. We could probably figure out how to get them. Oh dear.

You died. I was dying anyway, so. Oh, okay. They only did five damage to me. Unfortunate. I don't even know what most of these do so. I don't remember either. There you go. Wow only have one guy left? Yeah, maybe not anymore. Oh no. You could kill, you could kill Sarah at least.

Yeah. I'll see if I can. Who's Matt Parker? Is he from three blue, one brown? Uh, no, that's Grant. Oh yeah, right. Anderson? He was on, yes.

Grant Anderson, that's right. I'm not gonna be able to get to myself with this, right Anderson. He was on yes, Grant Anderson. That's right I'm not gonna be able to get to myself So what colors best scientifically speaking Scientifically speaking I feel like black black has got to be it Because it absorbs and absorbs the most energy. Mm-hmm Green's pretty good. Green must be good because everything is green. Oh, I just hurt myself on that one.

Okay, well. I don't think I have the strategic knowledge. You don't have the devious mind for worms. No, I'm not a very... I know the strategic. You don't have the devious mind for worms. No, I'm not a very, I know worm facts. I can, I was going to look up worm facts before this and then I thought instead I should learn how to play worms. So that's why I'm here. Even though I specifically asked you to look up worm facts.

I know. Well, I know some worm facts. I feel like I know the ones that were on our episode Yeah But we already said that Here they're cool things about flat worms. They those the ones that can regenerate. Oh now I'm small again That's so weird mine got big but it didn't get all the way big I have extremely large full screen Any thoughts on Halloween themed episodes this fall or other holiday themed topics going forward oh

we did what was I Suggested one came up with one in dear Sarah and Sam that got that went away And it was trick- treat, I think. I think it was trick or treat, yeah. It was, it was, except it was on Tansin's trivia night. I made it up as a fake answer. Oh yeah, that's what it was. Trick or treat, fake answer.

I think that is probably what we'll do. That'll be fun. Yeah. I think we should just do, yeah. That feels vague enough. And like Hank and Devoki can have a fun time with the game. Um, should I push the light bulb again? Yeah. Um, Terminate. Wait, a picture plant that makes its picture underground is absolutely wild. I guess there's a lot of life under there.

But- Oh, it's whole pitchers underground. The opening is not above ground? Oh, if the opening is above ground, then that would be clever, because then it's like, this is a safe hidey hole, but it is in fact not a safe hidey hole. But is that the case?

I just made that up. I don't know. Did you hit the button, Ara? Oh. Oh. Sad. Oh, dear. Who's? Oh, I almost said who's Seth. I know Seth. He's the editor of Psycho Tantrums. Who's Seth? I named the character. I don't know. Chanel Williams, the McGonagall cosplayer. Are you familiar with this person? No, not me either.

Want to look him up? Cowboy Crab on the Discord server. Oh, Iboy crap on the Discord server. Oh, I should look at the Discord server. Oh my gosh. Okay, wait. Okay. You gonna do anything fun for 4th of July, Sari? No, I'm not feeling very patriotic.

No, kind of a weird year to celebrate it, huh? Weird year to be pro-America. To be really excited about it. Yeah, we might. So in Boston, people freaking love the 4th of July. They do? As much as they love St. Peter's, we're the revolution.

Oh, right. Leaving trail. That makes sense. Et cetera. So plenty of love for the 4th of July here. So we might go to Cambridge, just where I went to school. To avoid that, is that why? No, you can sit by the river and listen to the,

I've got to think a little bit about this. And listen to the Boston Pops, which is the orchestra. Right. Play a concert, they play rousing patriotic songs, and there's a firework, so as it gets dark. So it might be nice to just do a little picnic, sit there. What gun are you using?

Oh, I was using the mortar and F1. It doesn't do very good. You have to shoot it up into the air and then it rains stuff down on people. I see. Yeah. That's for getting people who are far away. Good to know, good to know.

Well, that sounds fun. You must live in a big city where you could do stuff like that. Fire! Oh, why am I so bad at throwing grenades? My swapper! Oh, boy. Sorry, Hank.

Bye bye, Hank. Canada Day. Canada Day is tomorrow, and I'm not celebrating tomorrow either. Canada has got some problems of its own, huh? How likely is it that Stefan would make another guest appearance? Very likely. Oh, very likely. I think if Sam is ever sick again, then that would be the case.

I'm never going to be sick again. Who's the only person who's ever missed an episode of You? What do you mean? Like, in your trivia, I thought you said there's only one person who's... Oh, who missed the least amount of episodes? Yes, you've missed the least episode of the show. Yeah, because I just say no episode. I don't feel good.

Yeah, Hank misses the most because he's busy. And then I miss more for trap, mostly because I was moving across the country. And I was like, I can't set up and record. Right. And another time, I was like, after the running episode, I went to run a marathon. And so I'm more likely to be gone on Tuesdays than Sam is.

Yeah. You went to run a marathon at Disney World, is that right? Yeah, which is absolutely wild thinking that COVID already existed. Oh yeah, it's crazy that you were here, that you lived here and COVID hadn't happened yet. And that that was two freaking years ago.

What a crazy two years. Will I fall in the water trying to follow you? Yeah, we should get the whole team back together. Didn't we get the whole team back together last year sometime? No, we didn't. We had Stefan. Oh, maybe we did.

I think we might have. I don't remember. Snails or turtles? Is this a choice we have to make? Turtles with turtles or snails be a good episode? Turtles or turtles would be good. I'm not sure about I feel like snails, we'd have to expand to other like slimy invertebrates like snail slugs.

I don't know what they're called. Categorias, but maybe a lot of marine snails do very weird things. That's like the bubble raft that led me astray in some truth or fail. Or like the guy that can touch you and give you a... What's it when you... What do you take if you're diabetic? Oh, insulin? Yeah, it has like insulin in it and it puts you into shock.

Cone snails, those are really venomous ones that live underwater. Right. But if you had to pick between turtles and snails, I think maybe is the question. I pick a turtle. Teenage mutant ninja turtles. Turtles from Mario. I love turtles. Yeah, so somebody asked what we're playing. So called Worms Armageddon. The game that I used to play when I was in middle school with all my friends all night long. Oh, run, please.

When I was, I think we were playing Worms 2 and I was in grade school. This is Worms 3. I was playing Worms 2 and I was in grade school. This is Worms 3. I was playing this game and we were playing with a kid who'd never played it before, much like Sari, and he was really bad at it. And in one turn- You're not talking to Sari?

Yeah, like Sari. And in one turn, he killed all his worms. And then for the whole rest of the night, he went- Oh no, I'm supposed to hold the button. For the whole rest of the night, he went, oh no, I'm supposed to hold the button. For the whole rest of the night, he went into the friend's whose house we were at's room and cried. And I felt bad for him, but it was also really funny.

That is really sad, kind of. Yeah. I will not cry because I'm on camera, but I'm not feeling great about my performance here. You're doing better than me. Look at the little life part at the bottom. You just have to learn how to be better at this game.

I guess that's the thing. This is why I also agreed. What is this even? It makes fire. That would be a great place to shoot a- Shoot fire? To shoot a bazooka. Oh.

Bazooka. You have a bazooka in your hand right now. No, no, not that one. Oh, that was a bad choice. No, that was a bad choice. It was not great. You changed it from the bazooka to the thing you didn't want.

No, I did. And I didn't know what I was doing. I do feel like I am pretty good at I'm not confident about many things. I think this is my pin tweet. But Mario Kart, I will do good. But I think most video games, I'd be willing to give a try. Like I'm, I think I can learn controls fairly well and not completely embarrassed myself. I don't know if this is true.

Mario Kart's kind of an interesting one too, because it's like, takes a lot of work to be really good at Mario Kart. I feel like, and like you kind of had to have been playing Mario Kart from like the very beginning Yeah, I feel like release to be good at newer Mario karts You have to oh, that's your own self and you're fortunate. That's okay. I Used to be sad about I love playing games, but I'm really really bad at them. You're not bad at video games, Sam. I play with my little brother who's amazing at them.

Yes. Like we went to see Top Gun this week. The Tom Cruise one. The new Tom Cruise. Yeah. The new Tom Cruise one. That's the same as the old Tom Cruise one, but he's much older.

But he's much older. And he's got the female lead. What? Well, she's old too. Oh, okay. I don't know. I don't know anything about him. I saw ads for it on Twitter.

It's the lady from Labyrinth. It was kind of cool because they got like two 80s. You ever seen Labyrinth? No, I have never seen Labyrinth. Of course. They got two like 80s superstars to be the two leads. But we were watching that and I was like, Wilbur is so good at video, there's like one role in the fighter ship

where you have like a little joystick and you have to like point a laser at stuff and then the missile shoot it. And I was like, Wilbur could obviously have done that well. We're so freaking good at video games He could be like a fighter pilot. He's so good at video games So it makes me feel bad and he's got what I call computer brain where he will start bad But then after a few rounds he like he like wires

few rounds he he like he like wires it oh he like really wires it in this is really bad for all of us um and then you can never play with him again because because he's too good at the game now. And I forgot why I was telling this story. Oh, I'm bad at video games. Bad at video games? Well, it just sounds like your brother is extremely good. He's extremely good at video games. But somebody was saying that they felt bad that they were bad at video games.

I always feel like, especially like an online game, I just can't. I get nervous when I play, and this relates to something somebody else is asking. I get nervous when I play, and this relates to something somebody else is asking. I get nervous when I play online games because I feel like people are watching me and being like, oh, this guy sucks. Cause they probably are.

And they say mean things to you on their little headphones and it's no fun. I think they would be kind cause you're not known as a gamer. You'd just be Sam from Tangents and Commitment playing video games. Who would be kind because you're not known as a gamer. You'd just be Sam from Tangents and Commitment playing video games. Who would be kind? These people are Tangents patrons,

which realistically would be the people who watch. I think, I don't know. I feel like your audience knows you from this or for just being like a soft boy on the internet. I'm going to change my image. What do you want to be? What are you going to be? A hard boy.

I think that's it. I think you want to be a bad boy, Sam. Oh, yeah. I think that's the boy band trope. Hardcore sounds a little like you're just stony. You're a construction worker. I could be like that. Sometimes I think it would be funny if I got really buff.

Do you think that would be funny? I think it would be surprising because you don't seem, I feel like you're athletic, but not buff. I get really buff and it would be hilarious. And not see anybody for like- Would you just become a workout junkie and- No, just not see anybody for like six months and then she doesn't get really buff. That was kind of one of my secret pandemic goals is to get more buff. Then you moved away.

Then I moved away, yeah. So you couldn't finish the joke. But it wasn't even a joke. I like genuinely- I'm away, yeah. So you couldn't finish the joke. But it wasn't even a joke. I like genuinely, I'm genuinely getting stronger. I can do a push up now. I never- I saw your muscles in a picture. They're big looking.

Yeah. Of you farming or something. Yeah. Farming in my very small eight foot by 10 foot plot. It's farming in a way. Yeah. Oh, our weapons I think held over from the first round. That's why we don't have very much.

Interesting. What's this do? Yeah, so I am getting stronger. I don't think it'd be, I think it would just, I don't know, I don't find things, I think I'd be surprised if you came back like completely ripped, like bodybuilder, you had starved yourself,

drank a lot of water, whatever the things that were. Whatever you're supposed to do. Yeah, I ate a lot of candy, I think. Yeah. That's what they do beforehand, because it's basically like, what can you do to deprive your skin? Oh, right.

Of anything that makes it plush and moist. Yeah, and so body builders like, you work out. What's the candy do? I'm dead meat. It gives you the sugar, I think, that you need to like really flex your muscles. So it's just like a fast acting glucose source that allows you to flex really big

and for a long time, like enough to pose. These are great tips for my future career. Yeah, well, you wanna look into whatever it is, like games weeks and cutting weeks, I think that's what they do. I bet there's reddits for all this stuff, right? Oh, absolutely. I have several friends who,

Stefan has done bodybuilding-ish before. Yeah, that's like Stephen in a nutshell, min-maxing your own body. Yeah. Well, especially because he has a workout set in his own house. It's never been shown on Tangents,

because he hasn't. He hasn't been on video. Yeah, he hasn't been on video. But he's got a, he's got a weight lifting rack right behind his head. Yeah. Have you hit, I feel like you haven't hit me in like, since this whole round.

Okay. I've hit you a little bit, but not, you don't have to point it out so much. Okay. I'm not gonna win. I'm- Lynn Russell says, I will say that getting strong was really fun for me. I'm a big lady, so picking up heavyweights was so much fun.

Picking up heavyweights was so much fun. That does sound very fun. I do like lifting things. I don't know how to weight lift, but just like lifting objects. And people are like, do you need help? That looks really heavy. I'm like, I've got this. I know this looks really heavy.

Lift it straight over your head? Yeah. And then throw it at the person who asked you? I did not lift it straight over my head, but I did lift it into the trunk of our car. There's an air conditioner because it's very hot in Boston and I don't do well with humidity. What just happened to you? You just killed yourself.

Yeah, I was hoping you would notice. I have one guy with one health. So I think we know how this is gonna go. Let me read some questions. Let's see. I vaguely remember an episode back, way back when, where Sam said that he felt embarrassed singing in front of a small group, but he sung in front of hundreds of people previously. What's the story behind that? Oh, I understand the question now.

I used to go, I will sing karaoke at a blog, but not in a private karaoke room. That's what I was referring to. I have not sung in front of a bunch of people for any reason aside from being extremely drunk and playing karaoke, or doing karaoke. You also half sung at a live, our live tangents. Oh I did, I forgot about that.

But it was just like, twinkle twinkle little star, I think. Well just, I did. I forgot about that. But it was just like, um, twinkle, twinkle little star, I think. Well, just come on. You got to have range to sing twinkle, twinkle little star. Yeah. Let's see. It says you were master of the dark side. Me? Probably because I didn't do very good. Hank was the most useless worm I mean

Hank no it would be nice to Hank because he's not here I can only make fun of him in front of his face yeah he gets delightful he tested negative according to Twitter he's broadcasting the whole I'm very glad for that. Yeah, me too. Do you want to play one more time or do you want to play something else? Oh, I don't know. Do we even have any other games in common? I don't know. Oh my gosh, it's already 5.55. We can play one. We were late by a lot.

Yeah, we were late. That's true. Let's look at the chat for a minute though. Okay. Simon says you could bring your chat up on the phone. I think you could probably. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how you would do that. We're on this weird program that I've never used before. I might be able to, but then it might add my phone to the show. You know, I thought of some, okay, so the the karaoke things making me think of my dream tangents episodes I really would love to go to different places like to

It's not what is it called biosphere? Is that his class or two? Yeah, i'd love to go there and do an episode I would genuinely like to do an episode at the taco bell cantina that they're building in butte. I think that would be fun Uh, I think like an on location episode would be fun. And I wanna do another live episode too. But I don't really know how to do that. That's like a Hank has to do it for us kind of thing. Yeah, Hank and John have to walk to tour and then we tackle. And then let us be there.

So start a letter writing campaign, everybody. I don't think Stefan would return. This is switching topics completely. Talking of Stefan, will Stefan return as a guest, but like to do blockchain or cryptocurrency? I don't think Stefan knows a lot about cryptocurrency. I think sadly- No. He just seems like he would.

No. Like realistically, I think I know the most about cryptocurrency. Maybe Hank, but between Hank and me, one of us does. I think Stefan would come back for cars. We already done cars though. We've already done cars. Cars too. Cars.

Cars too with Stefan. Okay, maybe this is a secret, but it's patrons only. Doesn't he have an electric scooter now? It's not a secret. Why would that be a secret? I don't know. Cause maybe he's embarrassed about it. He does have an electric scooter now.

He actually came to my house for a shoot. We were shooting the Shisha, the SciShow kids episode in my backyard and I was standing and drinking coffee and his little head just weeped Pass my window so funny it's pretty cool. It's like it's just like a razor scooter, but electric and Engines and cars and stuff like engines is hard. I feel like engines is hard Engines would be cool though, cause then we could get across, we could do like rockets. Yeah, we should do engines. I think engines would be good

and it'd be good to have Stefan as a guest because he would at least be able to talk about car engines. Yeah. One episode I've nixed a bunch of times, like an idea is rockets. I feel like it's so fraught, but. There's a lot of sad things that have happened with rockets. Yeah.

And there are a lot of similar things that have happened with rockets. I don't know how different we'd be able to get. Yeah. Sarah, what's your favorite color? Teal. I love like an aquamarine, like a light teal or like a mint green.

What's your favorite color? Let me pick my cute teal. Your teal. I don't know. I like, I like, I like blue. I'm a nice and boring guy, you know? I'm not a hard boy. I'm not a hard boy. I'm like red.

Hard boy with like- The color of anger. Or orange. I feel like orange always riles me up. Oh, gets you pumped, huh? Yeah. That's cool. anger or you were orange I feel like orange always riles me up oh get you pumped huh yeah that's cool I guess I don't really like being around I hit the light bulb you're a chemical engineer it's always funny to me no offense it's always funny to me when people follow me on Twitter and it'll be like, I went to Harvard, or like I'm a MIT graduate, I'm a doctor.

Like, I'm sorry. I'm so stupid. No, Sam, yeah. I love when you do like your little Sci-Com posts. You gotta do those more. My little- Me and Sarah have a secret scheme to become extremely famous

that we haven't worked on lately. Yeah, I could be more fun fact, like Sci-Com posts. Yeah, and people like those. People do. I don't tweet very often. Sam is more of a internet presence than I am, I could be more fun fact like psychon posts. Yeah, and people like those people do I don't tweet very often So I'm just more of a internet presence than I am. I think I What fat lot of good that did me though? Okay, I gotta remember who I'm new color now. Have we done laughter as a topic? We're gonna have play next week, which is kind of close Whose turn is it?

Oh, it's your turn. Um, laughter would be interesting. Oh, we talk about laughter in the next episode because Hank asks us a question about people tickling themselves, being able to tickle themselves. And we talk about fun, some like what fun is. Yeah. I think maybe. Yes, in play.

But yeah, laughter is like weird. There'd be something, there's like something around vocalizations that's like not communications, but like, I don't know how to make that into a piffy episode title, like voices or vocal chords maybe as a concept but just cuz yeah I don't know but also other types of like roaring and stuff like that that's what I'm interested in like because I feel like vocalizations vocalization I think that's it I think think you wanna get the nail on the head. Just cause I worry that-

Okay, I'm writing that one down. Oh. I worry that laughter would be too narrow for similar reasons of like human laughter. Other animals sound like they're laughing, but can we really call it laughter? I don't know. Right, right.

But the vocalization is broad enough that we could get into laughter as like the listener question. Or the question. You jumped so good, Sam. I was always good at jumping. I did change her to Teal. I thought they would make her be better at the game.

That's really kind of you and really. Something right in front of you, Sari, is a mine. Don't step on that. Thank you for helping me with this. You can also teleport. You have a teleporter. If you for helping me with this. You can also teleport. You have a teleporter. If you right click. Is it under I see low gravity jetpack?

It's under F8. It's the last thing in F8. OK, let's go. I want to go here. Great. Come on. Reinforcements have arrived! I don't think, okay, well, how badly am I doing? We're tied right now. We're not. Oh, but in general, I've lost two games, but am I... Using your expert worm judgment, am I like an embarrassing amount of bad at this game,

or am I just playing like someone who's never played before? The second one, for sure. I don't think you'd have to go lock yourself in a room and cry. I think you'd be okay. Thank you. I don't think we would make big fun of you if we were in eighth grade, even though no girls allowed, because our parents probably wouldn't let there be girls.

And we probably didn't know any girls also. I would probably, if you had played this, if we had been friends in eighth grade, I would have been like, I would like to be cool and be your friend. Would you let me play worms with you? And then I would be bad. And I would not cry but I would

Develop a crush you and all of your friends You would what develop a crush on you and all of your friends? Why because we've made fun of you for being bad at the game Oh, cuz you would play video games with me. I assumed at one point that everyone who is nice to me I was like, I've got a crush on you that everyone who is nice to me, I was like, I've got a crush on you. Just because. Well, I think that was everybody

at some point in their life, right? Yeah, probably. While you're trying to navigate being a human being. Mm-hmm. I would love to know what you're doing. What is this? I didn't say you hold it for longer. You gotta hold it for longer.

I actually kinda used the homing missile. I will get it one day, but I really didn't get a chance to practice with it. Um, animal acoustics, that's interesting. Oh yeah, so somebody's asking, any tips for people going back to college? Kindle is asking this. I start school in August and it's been a while since I've been in a classroom. So my partner just went back to college.

That's why I moved and became a contractor. And I think know what you want to get out of it is a big one. I think a lot of people go into college, myself included, not knowing, like just kind of going into it because it was the next step. But this person's going back to college. You know, you know what you're talking about. Yeah. So I don't know if you're going back to college. Oh, OK. You know what I'm talking about. Yeah, so I don't know if you're going back to college,

whether after a gap year or after going back for a master's program. You're right, son. Really focus on what's the main thing you want to get out of it, whether it's learning about a particular thing or the social connections from it or getting to know elders in your field like the professors and then really make sure you spend time doing that. And so I can't speak from personal experience

in college. I realized in my sophomore year that I didn't really like the school part of school, but I really liked getting to know friends because I lived in the dorms and it was not a pandemic and professors that I really respected in the media industry specifically. So like I did all my biology stuff but didn't really care as much. Like I just did those classes

for the sake of doing the classes. Got to hold it. Remember to hold it. Okay, we'll see. Oh, you don't have to hold that one. No. Oh. And then most of what I did was I worked part-time jobs was, didn't feel like I was in college to go into academia. And so I like made YouTube videos

and I blogged for admissions office. And I did a bunch of weird side gigs because that's what I was most interested in. And my partner who's going back to grad school for her master's in library science doesn't have that community aspect because of the pandemic and mostly wants to get her MLIS so that she can become a librarian. So she's mostly using school to take the classes that are most interesting

to her and get her the requirements that are needed to get the degree but then she's getting a lot of her community and practice and practical experience from working in a library and isn't doing a lot of on community and practice and practical experience from working in a library and isn't doing a lot of on-campus activities or like grad school networking events or things like that because she's already found the people aspect of it at the library she works at. I don't know, that's my advice.

Sam, what's it like going to art school? Oh, well, I've never gone back to school. I would do something, I mean, I guess, okay. I wouldn't have done that. But that's fine. You know, everybody plays this game their own way. I was really bad at being in college and in art school. And like this person says, I didn't take advantage of office hours or anything

But I really wish that I had um And I think knowing why you want to go to school Is like the biggest thing for me because I didn't waste a couple years because I got credits Towards not spending a billion dollars in art school By going to the U of M here But I didn't know what I was doing and I like switched departments all the time and I really knew that I wanted to do art

I just chickened out and didn't do it for a couple years I'm sure somebody probably told me like don't do it and it wasn't just me chickening out but somebody probably told me like, don't do it. And it wasn't just me chickening out, but I do kind of want to go back to school. I think if Rachel got a big raise and made a million dollars, I would go back to school. Cause I would like to be an art teacher or something, I think.

But. So would you get your teaching degree? Yeah, I actually moved back to the first place to get my teaching degree. But then I remembered that I hated school, so then I stopped. But who knows? Maybe this time I won't decide that I hate school. I just hadn't had enough time between being in school. I don't think.

Um, but now I wouldn't be so scared of everything. I don't think I wouldn't be like, Oh, I'm being a bother. I just because I've had a job for so long. But so Narwhal Dragon, who's a professor, says I second office hours and learning how best you study and seeking help. That's what I'm bad at. I'm a professor right now and used to be a study coach in grad school. I noticed study skills is one of the things my students struggle with.

Yeah. I just feel like you go to college so young. There's so much your brain left to develop, at least for me. Yeah. I think I'd be much more effective now. I don't know if I, I think I would do more of what I wanted to I think I would be less Sounds like pretty That too. You're always like drinking and going crazy

I did dream a lot in college to be clear, but I guess I don't know why I'm saying that But I did I was cool guys I'm saying that, but I did, I was cool guys, but mostly I just stayed up late and did a lot of homework and took too many classes. Oh, sorry. Didn't have enough fun. I don't know what I'm doing. Okay, okay, this is good.

Okay. Time something up. You kind of hurt yourself maybe more than you hurt me, but yeah I really hurt myself. Yeah, you killed two whole of your guys. I think I killed three three holes No, one of them was my guy. Okay Did kill Seth? Yeah, no I Like kept really unhealthy hours to do all the things that I thought I would do to be a good student. I was Like because I also didn't know how to study and so I did like

Very intense about it. Took like very, very intensive notes, studied very, very, very intensely through the wee hours of the morning and didn't let myself get enough rest. And I think I would do that differently this time around. I think I would go to grad school for like media studies probably,

like some sort of. Internet. You kind of did. Was that part of kind of what you went to school for? Yeah, yep. So I did a combination of biology and then media studies and writing. Right, double majored, but it felt like a triple major.

Are you in here too? You are. I'm in here. I don't think there's any way you can... Isolate. Isolate me, but I could be wrong. Let's get this shot. We'll see.

You also have a tool, I just remembered, that lets you pick what worm. So on this. Oh, okay. Oh. oh, I did practice. That was the one thing I got in my 15 minutes of work. How to use grenades. That was pretty good. Thank you. Thank you. But now I can kill you guys really easily.

Wow. I'm very sorry. That's OK. But I'm going going to you're trying to win. Oh Shit Did I kill you all yes, no, I have one more guy give one more guy quite feeling about this guy more guy. You have one more guy. I have a good feeling about this guy. Yes sir! I think you can kill me. I think you can kill Sam this time. I think I could kill Sam, yeah. Maybe. I don't know what weapon will do enough damage, but you could. I feel like it's only the ones, I'm just gonna punch you. People in the chat are talking about if vocalizations is too restrictive because then we wouldn't be able to talk about stuff like crickets.

Oh, interesting. I think we'd be okay excluding things like, what's the word, where you rub things together. I think we'd be okay if we excluded insects. things together. I think we'd be okay if we excluded insects. We could do two separate episodes though. That was embarrassing. I'm just gonna punch you again because I know I can do this. That, that's a good idea. I gotta really make sure I line it up though. Yeah. So then we could do a different one about, I don't know. I think it's okay. We could do like animal communication later too,

or something. Yeah. Because those are different. There must be a word for insect noises that isn't... That isn't the same as the other locations, but I'm not sure. What's that? Oh, you're teleporting. I teleported. Okay, let's see what this baby can do.

No. Not my best work. You're a little ahead of me, so I can always hear when something bad happens to you. So you're like, no. But the thing hasn't happened yet. Yeah, you don't know what's happening yet. Yeah. I don't know how I can get you.

I guess I could try this. It's all Hank. Hank. Oh, okay. You have siblings, right, Sari? Yeah, I have a younger sister. And you play games with her? Is that what you're saying?

Yes. Like your younger brother, she is also much better. She has played like competitive Super Smash Brothers in tournaments before. Oh. That's cool. And it's like, really, really good. My games. So I feel like I'm good at games.

So I feel similarly, like compared to her, I think the, of the three gamers in my house, it used to be my dad was the best and then me and my sister were about the same because we were special. Everybody gets better than their dad eventually. Yeah, yeah. And then me and my sister, I was beating her for a little bit when I was just older and had more motor skills. Very quickly she became the best at video games in the house. That's too bad. We can still convince my dad to play rock band with us sometimes. He has like an old rock band.

I need to buy an old rock band. I would love to. Okay. Should we quit or do you want to play the last round of the... Oh, is there one more round? Yeah. It's best two out of three. How is it best two out of three?

You won all three. Well, this is the second round of two out of three. I mean, I'll play if you want me to. Look, somebody asked about trains, so we'll fight on a train now. Okay. Someone asked about doing trains. Uh-huh. Oh, Kendall.

That's very lovely. What did Kendall say? You guys are so helpful. I'm really excited and love to learn, but I dropped out originally because I didn't know what I wanted. I didn't have a very good support group the first time I went. Support groups are a huge thing. Not to toot my own horn, but I feel like Sylvia would have dropped out by now if she was a support group.

You're not allowed to say that. I'm not allowed to say that? Okay. I don't think so. Okay. Well, she's very strong and cool and everything. I think it would be tough just seeing how much we balanced up. I don't know. I read an article by Anne Helen Peterson, who's a great culture writer. Also maybe used to live in Missoula, now lives in an island in the Seattle area about how the world isn't really built for single people.

I extremely feel that. Yeah. Where it's like- I think about that all the time. I'm so glad I have a partner because I don't know what I would do. I think on top of that, like society, oh, whoa, your people are crazy.

They're all in the same place. I think on top of that, even like society isn't built. Like we didn't build America for single people because you have to like go to the bank and stuff and like you're gonna have time to go to the bank. We didn't build it even for people to have for two people who both have a job. Because like how do you to get your card fixed and how do you like go to the grocery store? Basically what I'm saying is I would love it if Rachel made a million dollars

so then I could stop working forever and get the car fixed and go to the grocery store. But like, in like affording a house is not something I would have been able to do without. No, no, no, no, no, no. Oh, don't keep walking, run, run. Well. Who asked? That's fine.

Yes, I would love if Sylvia made a million dollars also, but she's going to be a librarian. So that's not something I have to be the one who made a million dollars. I don't particularly want to win capitalism either because that feels like compromising my values or sure getting extremely lucky which won't happen. Yeah. Getting lucky. You gotta get lucky someday, Siri.

Yeah. Mariam says, I've been very bitter by how apartments are way more expensive when you don't get to share a one bed with a person. Yeah, sucks. Apartments are way more expensive when you don't get to share a one bed with a person. Yeah sucks What is a motto normativity a neologism Neologism, what's that? That describes the set of societal assumptions that everyone prospers with an exclusive romantic relationship. Yeah, I Mean, I guess it's not built for a single person not even in a romantic way just like Yeah, it's not built to navigate the world by yourself. I

Suppose is all you're saying sir I suppose. Is that what you're saying, Sarie? I think that's the thing. I think there is something to finding community in that way. I guess it's maybe not for everyone, but I think humans are a social species and we need people around us. But I wish that it wasn't so expensive for people to like need their own private space to be able to afford that. Yeah. Because I don't think anyone should be completely isolated because really they'll suffer.

Yeah. What is that one? That was a homing pigeon. Oh, it's in your it's in the old tool kit. It looks like a pigeon. It's in F1 at the end. I don't have one. I think you probably got it from a box. I haven't picked up any boxes. I think that's my team's special weapon that I got to pick. You probably have one too, I just don't know what it is. Oh, interesting.

Yeah, I simply don't know. I haven't done anything worth doing. What if I do this? The 40 hour work week was designed for a life where your wife takes care of everything for you. Yes, exactly. And so many businesses still operate under that assumption, like, like any shop that closes at five. It's like,

I can't go there and Rachel can't go there. Like, who's going there? And then you have to do everything on the weekend, and then you don't get a weekend. It's all a crock. So if this has become anti-capitalist, size doesn't matter. Yeah, don't tell Hank. Don't tell Hank who likes capitalism. Am I too dark? I can't see myself. You know, I've gotten quite mysterious looking.

I can see you, but. I'll turn on the light so I look less sinister. Sarah, you gotta get those guys out of that hole. Oh, she's gone now. Well, it's her turn. OK, I'll talk to you guys. So better at all. No, yeah, it's much better. I would hope it would be better to turn the whole last light on.

I don't know. I don't know. Oh, what time does it get dark there? Oh, like, well it get dark there? Well, sunset's usually at 8.30 ish now, but it starts getting dark around 7 ish. I would say. Because now it's 8.20. Oh no. What did you do? Why?

I was trying to get through the little gap there. What are you nuts? Oh. Oh, dead meat! I'm gonna be the fastest round. Not because I'm not- I'm genuinely trying. I just don't know how to get all my guys out of this little- I still believe in you, Sari. Hellhole. I still believe in you. Thank you.

You're the only one. I don't know what I'm going to do, but okay. This is a weird map. I feel like they arranged us very strangely. Oh no. Oh no. That was very bad for me. Well, it's helpful for me.

Sarie, are you planning on getting any new tattoos? Oh, I am. I contacted someone recently who's doing a bunch of little flowers over, I think my appointment's in October and I am getting a sunflower. I'm not sure where yet. Probably on one of my ankles either.

I have a fake. Why a sunflower? Sunflower because I'm a nerd and I really like these attorney games. The Japanese defense attorney badge is shaped like a sunflower because it's like pointing to the direction of justice or whatever.

Something should be like that. Sarah, you gotta take your turn. I know, I don't know how to do. I was trying to figure out how to get out this hole and I was reading all the different tools. You should have just shot Tuna. I don't think I can, I don't think I can reach. Maybe I can with a weapon that I don't know.

I was reading a lot of the weapons. How do you? Just shoot a homing pigeon into your hole. I don't, and then somebody asked me if I had tattoos. I don't have tattoos. Every now and then I'll see something. What? if I had tattoos, I don't have tattoos. You regret that. Every now and then I'll see something. What? Would you ever get a tattoo?

Every now and then I'll see something. I'm like, oh, I could get that a tattoo, as a tattoo. Reinforcements have arrived. But I don't know, I don't have one, not have one for any particular reason, except I am really worried I would get it. And then I would just look at it and be like, this isn't right, this doesn't look right, you know?

But. Yeah. But I don't know. I've always kind of wanted one. Oh, that was a good shot. Yes. Great shot for you. I thought a lot about and this is what everyone says with tattoos,

but I thought a lot about my first tattoo and then since then, I thought less. I'm still not I'm not at the point where I would get anything on my body. Folks with a lot of a lot of tattoos, but I would get lots of like, uh, I don't know. If a friend wanted to get a plant, then I would, and wanted to get a matching tattoo or something, I think I would, because that feels relevant enough to how I've decorated my body right now. to how I've decorated my body right now. How many tattoos do you want, ideally? Oh, I don't know. I don't think there's a number.

I think just as I get more ideas or I find more artists I like, then I'll get more. I don't think I want a full sleeve though. Like I don't want my arm to be covered. I like having tattoos that have like skin as negative space. And I don't like getting colored tattoos. Like most of mine are black and white or line work. Do you have any that, this is a personal question,

that you would get covered up? Yeah, I think I would you would get covered up? Yeah, I think I would get this one covered up. I got it for $15 in New York City. What is it? I can't see it. It's like a sprig of lavender. Oh, okay.

It's fine. But I don't. It's just boring, yeah. And it's kind of messy. Like it was the reason it was so cheap was because the artist was learning how to tattoo. And so I was like, I'll take a cheap tattoo. Thank you. And they were really nice and lovely. But it wasn't like a personal piece of art. It was

just picked from a flash book and it's not like some of the lines are unclean. So yeah, I would either get it covered up or touched up or I don't know, no attachment to it. So I feel okay getting cover up, but I don't like hate it if that makes sense or I wouldn't I wouldn't cover it up just for the sake of covering like because I'm embarrassed by it or something.

Right. Poor little Hank. Yeah, burned his butt. You had it coming. Do you know what tattoo you would get if you got one? Or is it just like, would you get like a big one, a small one? Would it be- I'd probably get a small one in a very discreet place.

Oh, okay. Hello. Not like on my butt or anything. Just- A tramp stamp perhaps? Just like where nobody can see me and ask me questions about it. But if I wanted to, I could be like, look at my tattoo.

I'd probably get it, I could get it on my arm. I think like, I don't know, where that one that you just had was. Yeah. That you just showed. I missed. I don't want a SciShow logo. I'm sorry Tangents logo on my butt. Well, somebody asked what the best butt fact our favorite butt fact I really like the butterfly one. That was such a fun one. Oh the moth. Yeah the moth

Stole that for a whole SciShow episode he's still over like multiple things Well whole SciShow episode. He's still over like multiple things. I know he's over a lot of... well, uh, yes, that one was good. Um, trying... I really like the elephant, Hano, that got a, uh, gold enema because the pope loved it. The pope's elephant? Yeah the pope's elephant where he's like I love my buddy Hanno I'm gonna save him he's so sick and like being sick is obviously because he's in the Vatican stepping on a bunch of rocks all the time. Yeah that was a very good one. He's like I must heal him I'm gonna get a big lump gold. It's so expensive and shove it up his butt. Please save my son. Yeah, that was a great one.

Yeah. I'm coming for you, Sari. I can tell. Yes, sir. You really got to kill Hank. I don't think I can. I think you could somehow. I think by killing myself I could.

No. I think you could throw a Molotov, like the petrol bomb, an F-10 at him maybe. That might burn him up enough. Or that, that bomb that you just had, the red one. That could do it too Well gotta have some creative thinking, Sam. I'm not there. I'm not there for you to punch. You don't know how to get you. Now there's a way to flip this around. I don't know what it is.

OK. I'm trying to see the chat. I don't think I can. Capsaicin for an episode is the idea. Oh, capsaicin. Have we done flavor or anything like that? I don't taste, I think. Oh, yeah, that's true.

Spicy? Like we can do different? I don't know. I feel like spicy is going to be one kind of like dragons where it's just like, who knows what we're talking about, but it'll be fun. Yeah, spicy. I like that. That could be, we could do November food stuff, but that's biology.

I'm in big time! It's Harry. I'm begging you. Hit at least one of my guys, please. What if I told you I'm just trying to be your friend and I'm really intentionally trying to just avoid you? Like a real near miss. Like when John used to do Fortnite pacifism?

Yeah, pacifist Fortnite. But I want your heart to beat a little fast and so I'm not letting you go altogether. Let's try this. Kind of put me closer to you. Yeah. But I hit you this time. I got one of your guys, which is what you were asking for this whole time. Oh, I should have sent you the YouTube link. Well, I'm reading you the chat good

Yeah, my what's the my yard my yard reaction my large like my yard reaction It's French. It's like when you have bread and it Browns on the top or Like anything that like kind of Browns and caramelizesizes with having a little bit of sugar involved, whether it's granulated sugar or an egg wash or something like that. So why pie crusts get crispy instead of doughy? That's thanks to the Maillard reaction.

Oh, I thought of one that I wanted to do. An episode? Oh, shoot. So we had this magician at the... At the retreat? Yeah, at the retreat. And I asked him if he could do a magic trick on people who were just listening to a podcast. And he said he could, but he wouldn't tell me what it was.

So now I wanna have him on so he can do a magic trick to everybody. And we can do like illusions or something like that. That would be fun. Yeah. Why'd you put it right there? What? Was he a good magician? Yeah, he kind of freaked me out a little bit. He was a mentalist. And he, uh, oh you died.

And he like was like guessing what people were thinking. I mean Some of it I was like, okay, I know what you're doing. But some of it was like Yeah Yeah, he was good, but I was really curious. I'm really curious to know what what his idea is for For an illusion to people who are listening on a podcast. I think that'd be really neat. Well, we've been doing this for an hour and a half now. Was science learned? Who knows?

Do we prefer episodes where the definition of the topic is straightforward or the ones where they kind of, you kind of know it when you see it. We just did dinosaurs and I had a really hard time with that because there's too much science about it, I think was my issue. Yeah, I think.

So it's just like this dinosaur might've existed. I think there's like a sweet spot and I don't think we figured out what it is yet. So there are some episodes where it's too vague, where like holes, too many things, but it's like, it's fun to define, but hard to research a fact off for, and like narrow it down enough that you can do

your research for it. And then something like dinosaurs is almost too specific where it's like, there's only one thing, and I'm worried that I'm gonna be overlapping with Sam or Deboki the whole time. But something that's, I don't know, I think we've been talking about it this whole time, where you get kind of general, you get,

or like in the middle of that, where it's a category like vocalizations, where you can look up several different terms. Like you can look up laughter, burping, roaring, purring, and then find something in the realm of that. That's like my ideal tangents topic. Um, and I think I guess so I guess that leans towards a definition that is a little bit broader

rather than a specific thing. I think anything where we have to kind of poke at the edges of it, which is most episodes. Um, and I think- Kind of poke at the edges of it, which is most episodes And I do my space can be kind of hard cuz that is or like like we did the Venus episode No, it actually turned out. Okay, but like you can't poke at the edges of that really. Yeah, we know what Venus is. Yeah Yeah, I kind of think it's impossible to tell which episode is gonna be Bad or good, you good in some way. I've been surprised a lot of times that something was way harder than I expected or way more fun than I expected.

Yeah, I agree. Timekeeping was very hard. I thought there would be so much out there about clocks, but it was extremely hard. That was so long ago. You're still holding a grudge against it? I'm holding a grudge, because I still have it on my,

I have a big ideas spreadsheet that I will never share because it's my, well, I've shared it with Sam and Tuna. So I guess never asterisk share that has all my ideas and research from old episodes that I might use someday. And there's still some where you can tell that I went around in circles a lot and timekeeping is one of them where I found like lots of weird clocks, but nothing substantial enough to talk about and tangents. Like a bunch of different ways that people just measured time by having water flow or flowers grow or like other strange things that aren't quite weird enough or quite substantial enough to be worth talking about.

Okay, we'll answer one more question and it is, would we ever wanna revisit a topic? Yeah, we'll have to eventually. Yeah. Which topic do you want off the top of your head? I'm looking at a list of all, I'm looking at all the episodes right now. Oh wait, I'm looking at only episodes

that have the word cat in the description. Okay. Looking at only episodes out the word cat in the description. Okay Probably stuff from the very beginning gosh, we almost have 200 episodes Yeah, I think bees I've loved. Frogs love frogs also. Yeah, a lot of the animal ones we could probably do again. I think I don't know if there's more, but radio might be interesting. Yeah, that was one where it was kind of like maybe we didn't quite get everything we could have out of it. Mm hmm. It felt like we like, yeah, what Sam said,

I was gonna just say the same thing, but that doesn't add to a conversation. I wanna do, I think we could do fears again, but maybe have like a guest on and have for every episode and have them do their fears. That would be fun. Since we've already done ours. I don't know, there's a lot of stuff

from the very beginning, I think that would be, like science hoaxes. That was our first episode. We will probably do another one. We have no idea what we're doing. No. Do we have any idea what we're doing now? A little bit, I think.

A little bit, yeah. I at least have a word doc that I copy every episode as opposed to, I think I just sent my facts in emails and they're all lost now. I don't have my complexly email anymore. Oh no. A load of garbage. I didn't think about the future.

You kept, you keep track of everything much better than everybody else does confidentially. If you've never noticed, I never put the references for Hank's facts in the references, because he and Devoki never send me their references. And I've reminded them, but I have to remind them every time, and I don't want to. So that's why they're out there. But, Sarie, I was like, oh, I need all the poems, and you had them all.

And then some. Yeah. You like to hoard all the information, huh? I do. But I'll share it with you. I don't mind sharing the information. I just like keeping it. Because once I hit that moment of, oh no,

I don't have my old facts, then I started getting worried. Because then that means we're gonna start repeating facts we're gonna start repeating poems who knows and you know what we won't remember yeah but everybody watching or everyone listening will remember everyone listening well that's like another dirty secret uh what was our recent episode that we did nerves recently yeah both these facts from the nerves episode was's fact from the Nerves episode was my fact from the Whales episode a really long time ago about like Roarqual.

I'm pretty sure I put an intro where I said. Oh, you did? Yeah. Don't yell at us. But as we were recording that episode, I was like, uh-oh. Like everyone editorially did not recognize it and Sam and I can't know the facts beforehand because then we'd be spoiled by the truth or fail.

But we both recognized it during the episode as the people who had been there the whole time. It was like, uh-oh. Yeah. Nothing you can do though, you can't say Devoki, no. Yeah, Devoki, stop. Find something else now. We'll look up a new fact. Yeahokie, though. Yeah, Devokie, stop. Find something else now. Don't look up a new fact.

Yeah. Oh, well. Okay, I lied. Would you ever visit Australia? Yeah, I would love to visit Australia. I would love to, yeah. I'm scared of it, but I will go. I'm not scared, I would just like to.

I haven't traveled very much. There's so many creepy crawlies there, though. You never been anywhere? No, Canada. Costa Rica. Yeah, I've been to Amsterdam and to Ireland. That's it though, I think. I was supposed to go to the Tokyo Olympics,

but nobody got to go to the Tokyo Olympics. I was so excited. Abby Martin says, this is my favorite podcast. Thank you. That's very nice Chris Brown says Are there any youtubers or creators who inspire you? Who guided you towards where you are now? Oh

The problem is is I feel like the people so this is what my dad has always said about me Which I think I've begrudgingly accepted as reading true. Where I never, like I can be a fan of people, but I feel like I'm mostly a fan of fictional people. And everyone else is like, I want to be your peer. Like I want to work with you or I want to get to know you as a human being. And so I don't have like, non like,

like YouTubers that deeply, deeply inspired me, like Hank, if I'm being honest, because I applied to go work at SciShow and do educational video and kind of Hank and John's reason that I went into this field in the first place of like science communication. Gross, don't tell him that. Yeah, everybody's mouth shut. Yeah, but otherwise it's like the people that I've worked with. So I work on a comic called Monstrous

and Marjorie Lou is the writer of that. And I like met her in her class in college about writing comic books and just, I interviewed her for my blog and then then and then she kind of took me under her wing or a flourish clink they're now getting a um they're in like a priest school not preschool priest school the religious one um but did a lot of work in fandom and were like big in harry potter fandom and i i interned with them and like

talked with them a lot in college and they kind of set me on the media path and telling me it was possible. So a lot of the people who inspire me are people who have like adopted as mentors whether they knew it or not. Somebody asked us what our Hogwarts houses were a long time ago. Oh, I'm a Slytherin, baby. Yeah, obviously. We're not very nice to each other. But I guess- I'm a Ravenclaw. Anyway, go ahead. Anybody who inspires me, I don't really watch a lot of YouTube because I watch so much freaking YouTube all day. But I should watch more. Rachel watches a lot of gardening YouTube and there's this person. I Really wish I could remember her name

But she's got a street, do you know epic gardening Okay, so there's a person who works with on the same channel as epic gardening the hermit gardener something like that I Think I like like I like people who who really like get far on their on just like their personality and Their videos aren't like super fancy, but they're like captivating to watch This person is one of those people but I listen to a lot more podcasts and I watch YouTube So are your the podcast you listen to the people that inspire you are you inspired?

I'm inspired by a lot of really good like I'm inspired by Like newspaper comic artists from the 20th from the 19th century who are dead now Yeah, like George Harriman who did crazy cat I'm inspired by him Ecc gar who did Popeye I'm inspired by him. But like podcasts there's Tom sharpling is a podcast well he was a radio host for like 20 years before he started a podcast,

but he does like a call-in show that he's done for since like 1995 every week. And he's somebody who can just like sit and talk and talk. Kind of like Hank does where he was just like, this happened to me today. And when stuff happens to me, I'm just like, meh, that just happened to me. And I don't think of it as like something interesting.

But I like people who can do that too, who can just like tell a story about anything, which is not something that I've ever been able to do, but have always like tried to figure out how to do. And you inspire me, Sarah. Say, are you saying that to rag on me? I am. That's rude.

You know, I'm not really. I don't believe you. I don't believe you. You are my you're my longest term creative partner, I would say. Yeah, by a long shot. That's true. I think you are for me too. No, you've been working with the comic longer than you've been working with me.

Marjorie, yeah, but it's not, I'd say I'm an assistant there. I don't think I'm like, I don't creatively shape the story really. I think I feel an ownership over tangents that I don't with any other project that I work on. Yeah. So maybe I am inspired by you. I am because you have really good ideas all the time. You have really good ideas. Oh, no, this is good. We got to end this before

we start reading. Yeah. No, I really like and I'm like, Simon, we'll show you what's on our walls next time. Oh, yeah. Here I got karma back there. I got I'll move my camera around and show you. Josh. What is that? Yeah. Tell me about this sign. What's the sign?

What sign? The three two two. Vegetables. Yeah. Vegetables. Yeah. This Sylvia got it to me as a birthday present last year. So our old address in Montana started with three, two, two.

And our landlord joked that we were three, two, two farms. Oh, that's really nice. I like dug up the whole yard and planted a garden basically. It was, I didn't dig up the whole yard. It was very overgrown with weeds and we bought a bunch of dirt and I like planted plants. And so he was joking that it was three to two farms. And those are things that we grew, like a zucchini,

a cauliflower, a pepper, a sweet pepper, Carmen pepper, a butternut squash, and... Oh my gosh. Oh, Inky's on there too. We didn't grow Inky, but she was like, she was like, she was there all the time. Yeah. And so we brought it with us. That's so nice.

That's like a... And on the back, so Sylvia commissioned it from someone who does hand-painted signs for like farmers markets or windows, stores, um, handsome signs or handsome handmade signs. They did the stuff for a county rail farm in the zoo. Right. Um, and got this and it has like the dates of our farm. Um, but yeah, now I'm plot. I didn't get plot 32. I got plot 31. So it doesn't quite fit, but still a good memory of- That's such a great story.

And then you have a picture gallery for Inky down there too. Yes, this is our little art gallery for Inky. I guess we're doing a tour of mine. This is by Stella Nall, an indigenous artist in Missoula. That's by Lady Pajama. It says micro nutrient on it up there. This is by- in Missoula. That's by Lady Pajama. It says micronutrient on it up there. This is by Josh.

A Missoula artist. A Missoula artist, yeah, Lady Pajama. This is by Josh Tyra, Daruma Party, who's also a Missoula artist, also my friend. This is by Anomal Press. Really good at this. Yeah. Yeah, Dave. Dave Lusk, very good.

Good prints. Inkey's Gallery is a bunch of stuff. Mostly Ash Walker, Marsupial Pudding, also Helicia Hubbard, and also Valerie Barr. We bought a monster from Valerie Barr. And that's in Inkey's Gallery. This is the County Rail Farm Calendar for 2022. County Rail Farm calendar for 2022.

County Rail Farm is like a local Missoula farm. Yeah, like a local farm. Sylvia and I have farm sat for them before. They're like good queer farmers, have flowers now. Ooh, this is Josh, Ash, my neighbor, my old neighbor John, when we were at 322 Farms. We lived next to John and Judy. They're delightful old people. As a parting gift, he gave me a pressed flower art that he had made with

flowers from their yard. And then this quilt this way is Nicole Sweeney birthday gift. She started sewing and we were like, we'd love to have some of your art for our walls. And so she gave us that. Wow. That's my walls. Oh, your stuff has a story. My stuff is a bunch of junk. No, it's fine and good.

Fun figures. We'll talk about mine's too small to see. We'll talk about it next time. Okay, yeah, you've got to carry the camera with you. Yeah. Okay, well, we could go for 12 hours, just like it's critical role. That's what we've proved tonight You know what else we could host? Segment of freaking P for a

Yeah, we weren't we weren't invited to host this year, but Sam and I That's why we that was one of the things that made me want to get famous Enough to be like come on invite us. Yeah, that's why we that was one of the things that made me want to get famous Famous enough to be like come on invite us. Yeah, also merch. I'd give you something off my walls Okay, well we really do got to go some freaking starving Well, maybe we'll do this again because this is good. Yeah, thank you all for watching and I'm freaking starving. Okay. Um, well, maybe we'll do this again because this is good. Yeah Thank you all for watching and I'm so sorry We don't have an episode of a bonus podcast out, but this will be here forever and you can watch us play worms

Zari can write you a shanty. Yes for P for a But we've talked about tuna and I have planned I don't know if you read your email Sam This is a while ago. We could release an album or like an EP of dance songs for my personal. We can get a record. Yeah, or just a CD. I feel like a record's expensive, but something fancy. Oh, you never know.

We'll have to ask. I can get some prices from DFTBA. Yeah. Let's turn this way and say, hey, Rachel. How much? Okay, well, have a good night everybody Remember if the fire of knowledge is enough, what's it mine to be filled a vessel to be lit light? Bye fire to be lighted and remember tell people about us. Okay, bye.