SciShow Tangents - Bonus Backlog Bonanza - Ep. 9

Episode Date: May 13, 2025

This bonus episode was originally posted on Patreon on November 23, 2021 titled "Tangents Bonus Pod Episode 9: Thankspooping!"Original Patreon description: This month we are grateful for turkey, crescent rolls, friends, and you our wonderful Patrons! Enjoy our game of Family Food and an inexplicable breakdown of everyone's shower schedules. What are you thankful for this year?SciShow Tangents is on YouTube! Go to www.youtube.com/scishowtangents to check out this episode with the added bonus of seeing our faces! And go to https://complexly.store/collections/scishow-tangents to buy some great Tangents merch!While you're at it, check out the Tangents crew on socials:Ceri: @ceriley.bsky.social@rhinoceri on InstagramSam: @im-sam-schultz.bsky.social@im_sam_schultz on InstagramHank: @hankgreen on X

INTRO MUSIC Hello and welcome to a SciShow Tangents bonus episode! This episode is called Poopy Peepipedia, even though it has nothing to do with any of those things. I've decided, well, we skipped Spoopy Peepipedia. We didn't skip it, you forgot to say it. I forgot it, I forgot to say it. We did do it.

Retroactively, it's Poopy whatever. Spoopy Peepipedia, thank you. Anyway, I'm Hank Green, and joining me as always is science expert, Sari Reilly. Hello, happy poopsgiving. Oh no. Why didn't I let you be in charge? Well, it was good,

because while you were stumbling around, I had time to try out some different things in my head. And we came up with poopsgiving. Thanks pooping would be good as well. Thanks pooping? Yeah. Oh yeah, Iops giving. Thanks pooping would be good as well. Thanks pooping? Yeah. Oh yeah, I love a good thanks pooping. And also our resident everyman, Sam Schultz.

Hello. What are we all doing for Thanksgiving? Also, is this episode is gonna be out before Thanksgiving? No way. I'm gonna grind it out today. Are you? I'm gonna try to.

My schedule's empty. I emptied it for this occasion. Nice, all right. Okay, well then what are y'all doing for Thanksgiving? I'm going to Sylvia's family's house. It's apparently a very big occasion. She has a lot of family. So I've been told there's a separate group of people

for eating Thanksgiving dinner and then dessert. Everyone really gathers for dessert and that's the big deal. Separate group of people, like you're at a different table or a different house. I think we are gonna be at the same house, but everyone eats Thanksgiving dinner with like various different houses.

And then everyone goes to Sylvia's grandma's house for dessert. Wow. Oh. We gotta go to grandma's for the pies. That's great. But I'm mildly stressed out because I wasn't told to bring anything and I feel like that's rude. I've been trained. That's great. But I'm mildly stressed out because I wasn't told to bring anything and I feel like that's rude.

I've been trained that that's rude. But Sylvie is like, no, no, no. There's gonna be plenty of food. So I'm just gonna bring my shining face. I don't know. I don't know. I feel like you should bring style, Greg Green with you. No.

Okay, what should I bring? You don't have to. The problem is is that... I think people want you to be a baby and they'll be like, oh, feed you food, what should I bring? You don't have to, you don't have to. The problem is is that, yeah. I think people want you to be a baby, and they'll be like, I'll feed you a food baby, you know? Oh. No, right, right.

They're like this, they wanna sort of take on that, that like I am giving. But I don't know, I always feel like I wanna give too, but hey, do what you're told, for sure. But then maybe in your backpack, just have a pie. Yeah, you bring a nice bottle, what a nice bottle of wine or something like that? What's the thing is there a Thanksgiving wine? Do we is there like a specific drink for things? What do people drink on Thanksgiving? No, but this is great info, please tell me what wine to bring because I know nothing about wines.

Oh, I don't know. Red and white. Yeah, you go, you get the one that costs $26. That's about right. Instead of like 12. Instead of 16, yeah. 12 might be okay. I think my mom has a rule

that she doesn't get anything that costs less than 12. Mm-hmm. Also pumpkin beers, because there's always like pumpkin beers around Thanksgiving. And I'm like, and that's not for me, but. Once a year it's fun to try, you know? Yeah.

We do have a bunch of extra Dunkin' Donuts flavored beers. Don't bring those. In the fridge. Don't bring those. Like pumpkin coffee, I think they're, so pumpkin flavored. There's blueberry matcha, which Sylvia said was weird and tasted mostly like blueberry. No green tea in there. Who knows why they had matcha in the first place.

Maybe like a nutty IPA or something like that. They're all seasonal flavors. I forget, but there's a giant box of them in our fridge because Sylvia was so tempted to bring them. So I can offload them on her family and pretend it's goodwill. This is definitely the third time that you've talked about this beer on Tandon.

Oh no. You're a, cut it out, please cut it out. You're buzz marketing it. It's been a big part of your life. Yeah. They've been staring me down in the fridge because I don't drink the beer.

Oh man, there's things in the fridge. What's in your fridge right now, Sam, that you're like looking at and you're like, ah. It's always leftovers, man. What am I gonna do about you? It's always leftovers, man. Oh gosh, the leftovers last less than 12 hours in my life. Oh, well. I immediately eat leftovers. We eat, there's a few things we make

that just makes one step too much. Yeah. Or it makes enough for us to both eat something and then there's a little glob left and it's like, I'll eat this glob, then you put it in and that's it. Oh man. I eat that glob two hours later Well, I love I love a glob. I love a little snack sized leftover. That's true I I do too, but I just never think about it and also my fridge is really small. So just like

Everything takes up too much space. Yeah. Yeah,'ve got, what do I got in there right now? That's pissing me off. Cheese. I always overbuy cheese and under eat the cheese, especially cheese that you have to cut with a knife. So if it's like pre-sliced, I'll just like stick it in my mouth. But if it's, if like I have to get a knife out,

then I'm like, ah. Like you're too lazy to cut it with a knife. Ah, ah. What if you just take away the knife roll and you can just take a big bite out of the cheese? Would that be unacceptable to other people in your house? I think if I was single that that would not be a problem. But I think that with the current makeup of the household,

if there was a big bite out of one of the cheeses. You could blame your son. He's not tall enough. He can't reach it yet. Oh, okay. He can't get to the cheese by himself. Anyway, Sam, what are you doing for Thanksgiving? He's not tall enough. He can't reach it yet. He can't get to the cheese by himself. Anyway, Sam, what are you doing for Thanksgiving? We just always go to my parents' house,

which is a couple, like an hour and a half or so away. All my friends this year are having friends giving. I'm extremely jealous, but my parents will lose their minds if I don't go. Yeah, yeah. I'm going to Indianapolis. That sounds fun. Yeah, it's gonna be great.

I'm very excited. I don't know why I'm so excited. I. That sounds fun. Yeah, it's gonna be great. I'm very excited. I don't know why I'm so excited. I guess probably just because I wanna leave my house. It would be great to leave your house, wouldn't it? Yeah. I used to hate traveling and then I didn't do it for two years. Yeah, you gotta reset.

Now I'm really excited about it. This month, Sam has been in the kitchen. He's been cooking us up something very special. It's a Thanksgiving themed game. So Sam, would you like to explain what we're doing on this SciShow Tangents bonus episode for your Thanksgiving themed game? Because I know nothing.

Yes, so Thanksgiving more so than most other holidays. Maybe any other holiday is absolutely rife with debate of all kinds. There's arguing with the family around the table, of course, but even the food isn't safe from endless back and forth. Like, which is better? Canned or fresh cranberry sauce? Are candied yams any good?

And like the infinite ways you can cook a turkey or even if turkey's good. Every year there's people who are like, turkeys actually really sucks. Turkey's great, crazy. So we at SciShow Tangents Labs have conducted He's actually really sucks. Turkey's great, crazy. So we at SciShow Tangents Labs have conducted extensive surveys of our listeners in an attempt to put these mini issues to bed.

And in order to reveal our findings, I've created the following game, created as a strong word, you know, Family Feud, we're playing Family Feud. I was thinking, you know, what was in my head was the phrase supermarket sweep. That would be really hard to set up for you guys on a podcast. I would love that.

I could try. I could try. It was my dream to be on the supermarket sweep. But supermarket sweep takes up like the same mental space. It's like the same neuron is associated with it. Also Thanksgiving adjacents in a way, you know? Sure, yeah, you've got to go get the turkeys. Yes.

They're worth so much. They're so heavy and they're worth so much, of course. So, but also it's called family food this time, cause you know, we don't wanna get sued. Are Hank and I each one family? Yes. Sorry, you're gonna explain the rules. You're each your own family.

I'll present, you're your own aunt and uncle in this situation. I'll present to you with a topic that we pulled our audience on and you will take turns guessing the most popular answers to those questions. If you get it right, You're your own aunt and uncle in this situation. I'll present to you with a topic that we pulled our audience on and you will take turns guessing the most popular answers to those questions. If you get it right,

you will keep guessing until you get it wrong and then it'll go to the other person. Gotcha, yeah. Just like Family Feud. Yeah, we'll keep going with each topic until I get bored, at which point you will be assigned a score based on how many you guessed correctly. Make sense?

Makes sense. And then you're Steve Harvey in this situation. So should we say things that are like vaguely sexual and then you get your eyes real big and you're like, you can't do that on TV. What? Okay.

Yeah, okay. That sounds good. Yeah, and I'll kiss you both. No, that was the other guy. That was the first guy. That was the other guy. But you could combine them to become one extreme host. First question number one, I should have decided,

oh, you just say it first, like family feud. Okay. Oh, okay. We polled our audience and asked them, what's your favorite non-dessert Thanksgiving food? What? Mashed potatoes. Mashed potatoes is on the big board. It's number two with 14 answers.

And for context, we got about 50 answers to every question. Nice. So 14 people like mashed potatoes and it's number two. So I'm with my family now? You're your family now. You ran back to the thing and you're like, I'll roll of Ceres and you're like, Dad Ceri, go.

Dad Ceri says, hmm. My favorite Thanksgiving food is sweet potatoes. Ding, ding, go. Dad's area says, hmm. My favorite Thanksgiving food is sweet potatoes. Ding ding ding, sweet potatoes is on there. Six people like sweet potatoes, that's the third answer. Nice, now, Grandpa's area's here. I gotta go for the classic turkey. Sounds a lot like turkey He's got a smoke more yeah, I don't take it

I Gotta go for the classic turkey and turkey actually did not Turkey didn't make the list. I was gonna be I thought that was was gonna be number one! Isn't that wild? Freakin' grand fest, Sari! Ah, wow. Too much of a traditional guess. Nobody wants, Sam, you just said that turkey's great, but it turns out turkey is the worst Thanksgiving food. Well, turkey is what you bring to it. It's a palette for which to paint all the other foods on.

Oh my gosh, you're getting me really excited about Thanksgiving. Okay, Hank family. Oh, Hank, oh, about that. Okay. Hank family. Hank. What's the- Oh, Mom Hank. Yeah. Well, I think that number one on this list is going to be pumpkin pie. Pumpkin pie is not any- Oh, no. Sorry.

Sorry. Sorry. I'm going to let you take that again. Non-dessert. You did say non-dessert. I forgot about that. Okay. Well, I was shocked.-desert. Yes. I forgot about that. Okay. Well, I was shocked.

I was falling out of my chair. Okay. Fuck. Okay. Well. There's almost every food left, so. I'm gonna... Well, I've forgotten about all of them.

I'm gonna go ahead. I'm gonna say that the number one Thanksgiving Day food is Crescent Rolls. It's not the number one, but Crescent Rolls is on the list. Hey! I can't believe that, that is so, that has never been a Thanksgiving in my life. Crescent Rolls are dope, they're standards, Harry, come on. Sure, are they?

Yeah. Like the tube ones? Yeah. Yeah, you pop them out of the tube. Of course, my mom makes them every year. And my mom's also Southern, so maybe there's a connection there. Maybe that's it.

I have never had a Crescent, that's why I laugh so loud, because I've never eaten a Crescent roll at Thanksgiving. And the idea of it was just pure absurdity to you? Yeah, the idea of it was just pure absurdity to you? Yeah, the idea of it. The idea of eating anything but like a round square roll. That was absurd to me. Are there other breads on the list, Steve?

There are. I'm just going to spoil it for you. Bread is on the list. Oh, yeah. So I'm going to take that one off. What human person is like, what's your favorite Thanksgiving food? Oh, the one I never gonna take that one off. Can you, who, what human person is like, what's your favorite Thanksgiving food? Oh, the one I never get to eat all year round, bread.

Bread. Uh, yeah. All right, well, oh no, now who am I gonna be now? Oh, you should be little, little Hank Jr. Oh, well I don't know much about American Thanksgiving. Stop! He traveled abroad for college, and he came back. But I've heard a lot of people talk about cranberry sauce.

Cranberry sauce. Cranberry sauce is on it as well. One person replied that cranberry sauce was their favorite. Hurrah! Okay, now you are Grandpa Hank. Uh, I am gonna say something to do. He's also British. Why?

Something to do with green beans. Ding ding ding. Green bean casserole. I mean, you really kind of cheated there, but green bean casserole. How did I cheat? Because you said something to do with green beans. Could have really been it. That counts.

That counts. Yeah. What else are green beans? Is there anything else on the list? I'd like to go until you at least get the first one. Oh, what is the number one thing? We got to keep going. Try one more.

And now you are. I have an idea. Uncle Hank. Well, Uncle Hank's gonna come in and say that the number one thing is gravy. Not on the list at all. It's not really a food, is it? Eh, yeah, it's a food.

You put it in your mouth, chew it up, it's a food. Don't chew it up, all right. What the heck is the number one thing? Number one thing. You get one chance to guess, Sari, and then we're done. I gotta get one final chance before I get out of it. Sari Junior, go.

Sari Junior? Well, I think that the number one food is stuffing. I forgot about the stuffing. It's stuffing. Woo-hoo! I forgot. Sari Junior's baby Luigi, huh? Yeah, I love baby Luigi.

He's my son and I've renamed him Sari. Okay, so we came out around one, three to three, tied. Now, one more of these and then we'll do something different. Two, least favorite, we asked her but we pulled our audience. Least favorite, non-. Two, least favorite. We asked her, but we polled our audience. Least favorite, non-dessert, Thanksgiving food. Okay, and then ding, ding, ding when you get one. Oh, bring.

Hank family. The candy dams. Ding, ding, ding. Candy dams are indeed on the least favorite. Six people did not, the spread with these was way wider. So six people didn't like candy dams and it's number four. Okay Yeah, run back to your family. Who is it? Who's going next? Well, I guess you're I guess you're aunt Hank now My whole family is southern. So it's like this is why this keeps happening

But I guess I'll say I'm gonna say green bean casserole because I figured that's probably on both lists Ding ding ding green bean casserole is number one most hated food. And then my great uncle Hank, who is from Mother Russia, is going to also say that turkey is on this list. Ding ding ding, turkey is number two on the list. Nine people hated turkey. Wild to me. Do you guys hate turkey?

No, I don't hate it. I mean, it can be hated turkey. Wild to me. Do you guys hate turkey? No, I like turkey. I don't hate it. That's fine. I mean, it can be, it's hard to cook. I will say that about turkey. Yeah. I suppose. So it's easy to make it bad.

Yeah. It's easy to make a bad turkey. Yeah. You know, and you just rub a lot of butter on it and everything's going to be okay. And then I'm going to be like my uncle-in-law and I'm going to be from wherever this accent's from. like my uncle-in-law and I'm gonna be from wherever this accent's from and he's gonna say that he likes to have he really doesn't like when he's at Thanksgiving and somebody puts like a big pile of carrots like roasted carrots on his plate and

Some of the other favorite foods by the way ham devil's an egg salad. Ham doesn't, I don't know. I hate ham. Ham's like the only food I hate. I like ham. That's weird. Ham is a big win on Thanksgiving for me. Though I have tried to stop eating pork completely.

Sari family, you are Sari Down Under. Oh no. Oy. Crikey. Oi. Oi. Oi. Oi. Oi.

That's what they say in Australia. I think that- Oh, that's good. The number three food is some dry bread. Not dry bread. Obviously. The number three food is some dry bread. No, not dry bread. Obviously Australian Saree wouldn't know anything

about Thanksgiving. Yeah, that makes sense that you got this wrong. Number three, I'm gonna bring this to the judges, which is you too also. Number three is stuffing. Is that dry bread? It's very wet bread. It can be, if you do it badly.

I'm not gonna give it to you because I don't think that's what you meant, is it? I was thinking more of a dry bread roll. Oh, okay. I mean, Australian is my worst accent, so I'm really glad you got that one because I can't get into it. Okay, great, great, great grandpa, Hank.

Oh, well, from, from, from beyond. Woo, I'm a ghost. From beyond the grave, I'm gonna say Brussels sprouts. Brussels sprouts is on that dang list. God, I fucking love Brussels sprouts, but people like love to hate Brussels sprouts. Yeah, cause Brussels sprouts are nasty. That's why they love to hate them. My mom loves Brussels sprouts, but people like love to hate Brussels sprouts. Yeah, because Brussels sprouts are nasty. That's why they love to hate them.

My mom loves Brussels sprouts and she makes like the most extravagant Brussels sprout dish for herself every year and is the only one who eats it. But that's fine. I love them. That's good for her. Okay, if we get one more, we can stop. So Hank's dog, would you like to answer? Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, fuck, I don't know. Hank's dog, you can't swear. Um, squash.

Oh, ding ding ding. Is it squash? Hey! What? How did you know Hank's dog? Cause you would hate squash cause you're a damn dog. I hate, oh, everybody hates squash. One, at least one person in our audience hates squash. One person?

What was number one, Sam? Number one was green bean casserole. And then some other ones were cranberry sauce, mashed potatoes, wild. Oh, I wouldn't even thought, yes, yes. Gravy, also wild. One was fish in oil, which could be- That does sound bad.

A regional thing, or I don't really know. One is turnip, just turnip. So I'm gonna give you one multiple choice and then we're gonna let Sarah answer a science question. So you will simply be telling me you're gonna each answer each one or something and then we'll score you accordingly. Do you prefer friends giving or families giving?

Does our audience prefer friends or families giving? I think it's easy to prefer the friends. It's a little less stressful and you choose it, you know? So you think more people answered friends? I think so. Okay. That's awesome I guess. Not that I think it's the right answer,

but I think that it's what most people answered. And you as well, Sam? I feel like our audience, if I'm drawing connections to me and seeing myself reflected in them, I think, yeah, the more control over friendsgiving and you don't have to have friendsgiving with the friends that you don't like,

but you have to go to family and you don't get to choose your family in that same way. Basically what Hank said, I'm just saying in different words. You're saying it with a lot more words as well. Yeah, so just cut that out please. No, I want you to keep going. Anyway, so it was very close, but 28 people answered family is giving,

20 people answered friends giving. Oh my god. Oh, that's nice. Yeah, I thought so too. Well, I'm glad. Yeah. I wonder if a lot of people haven 20 people answered friends giving. So just slightly more people. Oh, that's nice. Yeah, I thought so too. Well, I'm glad. Yeah. I wonder if a lot of people haven't had a friends giving and they don't know maybe. Well, I mean, I wanna do family's giving. Yeah.

I wanna do both. I see my friends a lot, so. Yeah. And then, Ken. I need to get my hair wet before I go shoot SciShow today. I got a problem going on back there. Do you not shower? Do I not shower? Yeah. I got a problem going on back there. You don't shower. Do I not shower?

Yeah. I showered last night, which is the problem. You know when you shower right before bed and your hair's like, weee. Yeah, I can't do that. I can't wake up until I get in some water, you know? Every morning? Every morning.

Samuel Schultz, I shower maybe twice a week. Are you serious? Yeah. Sari, how much do you shower? I feel like between three and four times. Oh, I get so crazy. But not every day. I'm getting crusty.

Tuna, how many times do you shower? That's a personal question. When I'm having real good weeks, it's like every day during the weekdays and weekends, maybe, hard maybe. But for the past couple of years, it's been like, yeah, four, three, whatever. Sometimes on a Sunday I'll take a shower, then later I'll take a bath. Wow. You're just the cleanest boy on the planet.

I don't have time for that. This morning I got woken up by someone trying to open my bedroom door. Hopefully your son. He failed because his hands were covered with his socks. He was banging on the door. I was like, I can't get in. I was like, that's really weird. I opened up and he was like, you've done this to yourself.

I can't get in. He's like, yeah, that makes sense. That's cute. Yeah, that's pretty cute. Sari, would you like to regale us with an answer to a science question as an intermission? Oh, that was it. Yeah. There's one more.

There's dessert as well, but we will do that after you regale us. Well, do you wanna ask the question? Yeah, but let me just say the scores real quick. I'm losing. You don't have to say the scores. Hank's family has eight points, and Sari family, you got three points.

Oh wow. Hank's family is gonna want a car, a real big car, a hearse. This is great. Oh, well that's perfect for great grandpa. Yeah. Okay, so the question is from Meredith Sokol and Meredith asks, question about spices. Why does my bottle of tarragon specifically specify

that it is non-irradiated? What? I've never heard this before. I wasn't gonna do any, but then I saw this one and I was like, what the hell? I gotta know this. Wow. So I went and looked in my spice cupboard

and it's only certain spices that say non-irradiated. Oh, so not even just tarragon? No, not even tarragon. Like my cumin says non-irradiated. It, so not even just pteragon? No, not even pteragon. Like my cumin says non-irradiated. It's the one that is in the fancier vial is the one that says non-irradiated. Like your McCormick's? Alongside non-gmo. Or fancier than that?

Fancier than McCormick's, like a glass one instead of a plastic one. Oh, one of the ones with the black caps because you know that it's the lugs. Yeah, yep, those ones. Okay, okay. And McCormick's are also non-irradiated. Like if they say nothing, then it's safe toick's are also non-irradiated. Like if they say nothing,

then it's safe to assume they're also non-irradiated. They're just not advertising it. Because if they were irradiated, they would have to be labeled as such. Okay. And the reason for this is food safety. So radiation, ionizing radiation, specifically from cobalt-60, has been used for food safety for

like decades upon decades with meats and fruits and vegetables and spices. So this radiation is one way to sterilize food from pathogens, particularly bacteria, that could potentially harm us. So like a lot of our food goes through these treatment processes, especially as it goes to supermarkets because it has to sit on shelves for a while. So does it get irradiated after it's in the package?

I think so. Oh wow, cool. But I'm not positive. I think it depends on the product. So like meat sometimes gets sealed up in individual packages and then irradiated to like make sure everything gets sealed up in individual packages and then irradiated to like make sure everything's sealed up tight.

Spices tend to get irradiated as they're imported into the US, I think, but not all of them, which is where it gets kind of wibbly because there aren't specific reporting mechanisms by which all foods are traced, I think, and then reported so the numbers vary. But according to an article that I was reading, various experts have estimated somewhere between around 15 and 25 or 30% of the spices used in the United States have been irradiated to cleanse them, to sterilize them, particularly in the ready to eat foods. So like a bagel with spices on top of it.

Maybe that's not the best example, but like a spice that you're going to consume directly as opposed to cook in a pot of soup or something like that. Like a salami with pepper crusted on the outside. Like you're just going to eat that pepper as opposed to cook it further. Is there a reason why this is bad? It's mostly just nervousness. Some people thought like microwaving nutrients would be impacted, but according to research, it's like comparable with loss from other cooking. but according to research, it's like comparable with loss from other cooking.

The food is not radioactive after it is, if you do like the right food and the safe levels of irradiation. Yeah, I mean, so like, what does irradiation mean? It means like hitting it with high-end or like ionizing radiation enough to destroy the cell membranes of bacteria. Yeah, specifically, I think disrupting DNA of the bacteria.

You're trying to. Yeah. And that could be a bunch of different kinds of ionizing radiation, but it's probably... Yeah, it's often cobalt-60 electron beams, which are up to 10 MeV, mega electron volts, million electron volts. Yep, that's what it is.

Or x-rays. And so, depending on the. Yep, that's what it is. Or x-rays. And so like depending on the treatment plant, that's the difference, but they're specifically just in the amounts needed to sterilize the food. So I think with cobalt, it's like a minute with electron beans, it's a couple seconds. And it's just like blasts the food with high energy so that the molecules in the food don't

really undergo any changes or like very minimal changes in the way that like all cooking is chemistry but the bacteria inside and then sometimes viruses, viruses aren't as susceptible to radiation treatment. There are non-radiation treatments for food too that include steam sterilization and fumigation with gases, like ethylene oxide and propylene oxide, which like- It sounds worse to me. Yeah, it sounds worse to me too, but it's all, I don't know.

Yeah, I mean, I'm sure that it's like studied and regulated and safe, but just seems like there'd be a much higher chance of some of that stuff hanging around than a gamma ray, which is gone. It's a photon. It's moved along or done its damage. Do other foods have to be labeled as much as spices do that they are? I'm sure that this is not a requirement. Saying not irradiated is just, I mean, this is my guess, is just a way of being like,

be aware that maybe that other spice had radiation, come and get it. But ours didn't, so feel good about that. You're not required to put non-irradiated on your food. Right. And Hank's right that I think it's just like the equivalent of food virtue signaling, but like not really, it doesn't really matter. But if your food has been sterilized with radiation in certain cases, then in the US at least,

you have to label it. But like the irradiated spices that then go into pre-packaged foods, those don't count. So you don't have to say like your bagel or your salami has been irradiated because only like a very small portion of it has. But if like your meat has been treated or like I think after the 2006 E. coli outbreak,

then the FDA approved it for spinach and lettuce specifically and so like now there's, you can get specifically like irradiated spinach and lettuce that I've been treated for bacteria Radiated spinach, I mean What when you got an E. Coli about outbreak? Yeah, I like it a lot better really do like an irradiated spinach I get kind of freaked out when I get leaf leaf vegetable sometimes like this is the one yeah Don't it for me. Yeah. Don't. Is it for me?

I can't, how do I know? How would you know? Cook it. I'm gonna end up on the news for having spinach diarrhea. I don't want that. And just to make it a little bit more international too, like a lot of countries permit food irradiation for safety. I just didn't look as deeply into their regulations

because I assumed that the listener was talking about their spice in the US, but it's like permitted in more than 40 countries and has been endorsed by like the World Health Organization and things like that. So it's not a new concept in that it's like experimental. Food irradi radiation has been around and we know how to do it safely.

It's just the politics around it and labeling food as such seems to vary from country to country and like public opinion on radiation being good, bad or stressful or not. Yeah, yeah, I mean, and also we just like, it's marketing, like if you can find a way to differentiate your product from their products, that's that's the whole that's the whole marketing story. And so saying non-irradiated is A way to tell that story in a way that I find not compelling and a little misleading

So I would go ahead and buy the one that says irradiated on it Contains genetically modified organ organisms. I'm into it. It's like somebody on TikTok showed off their, if I told this story, there's salt. Yeah. And it said non-GMO. Yeah. It went up in the episode that went up today. Okay. I can't get over it. So then people listen to this later today and get to hear the story twice. You can edit it out. I'm duplicating it actually.

I'm gonna put both of them in. Yeah. Well, here, I also watched a TikTok and it was so funny because there's this guy who built up salt. Are you talking about the TikTok with the salt that was non-GMO? Because he also had TikTok. Yeah, that one.-GMO? Because he's always on TikTok.

Yeah, yeah, that one. I was like, tuna, did you see that one? I hear that one. Okay. Well, we have to do favorite dessert real quick. We're running out of time. We're running long, we're running long. Favorite dessert, we polled our audience.

Favorite dessert. Buzz in when you got an answer. Yeah. Two, one. This is. You failed. No, you have to go fast and say it. Pumpkin pie.

I was getting the character. Pumpkin pie is number two. That was a mess. Number two? Number two is pumpkin pie. Yeah. It's a very pie heavy list, I gotta say. Which makes sense.

Yeah, I believe that. So, Sarah- Number one is apple pie? Ding, ding,ari? Number one is, or apple pie? Ding ding ding, number one is apple pie. Oh, I didn't expect that. I didn't either. You can have apple pie any old time. Country Cousin Sari.

I think a pecan pie. Ding ding ding, number three is pecan pie. Pecan pie is the best pie, oh my gosh. Country Cousin Sari would love pecan pie. And Country Cousin would answer pea camp pie. Pea camp pie, yeah. Okay, now. Good peas in a can pie.

Duke Sari. A Duke Sari says, franberry sauce? Does that count as dessert? No, no, no, no. I'm gonna give you a mulligan on that one cause that's a ridiculous answer. Okay, I eat it for dessert.

Just with a spoon? Yeah. Like it's jello? It's a dessert. Just with a spoon? Yeah. Like it's jello? It's a topping. It's a topping. Like after eating dinner, you like cut up some cranberry sauce and eat some with a spoon. That's just a snack. That is actually, that appears to not be a joke, everyone.

That's how my dad taught me to eat cranberry sauce. I'm the weird one. You are? I laughed at your crescent rolls. Duke Ceri would like to say, freakin', bread pudding? Yeah, very British of you. Bread pudding is not on the list, but we're making bread pudding this year. Bread pudding's good.

Oh, wow. So, aunt, Hank family. Oh, gosh, well, I guess I, Duke Hank. Oh, Doolan Dukes. Would have to give instead a correct answer. And that would be Dolce de Leche. That's a really incorrect answer. Aunt, I'm also going gonna give you a mulligan

because that's ridiculous as well. Okay, so back to Sari family, which I only do because Sari can win it if she gets, and not win it, but tie it up if she gets two more. Evil Sari, what's the answer? Evil Sari says, it's normal Sari. Yeah, that's what it's like. The most normal voice you've done so far.

Apple cider bread. Bread? Yeah, that's what's like the most normal voice you've done so far. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Apple cider bread. Bread? Apple cider, like apple cider donuts. It's big in the Northeast. No, that's a good answer. I'm gonna call it though, because the rest are weird. There's chocolate pie.

Uh-huh. Yeah, I thought about chocolate pie. What about like a blueberry cobbler? Oh, cobbler is on there Okay, ah, I won't give you a point for it, but it is on there ice cream. That would have been a good answer Why wouldn't you give me a point for it? I literally answered the correct answer the first time I said something. I was going through other ones There's also a millionaire pie on here, dude. You know what that is. What's the hell? No, I don't know either

I didn't look it up. It's a pie only millionaires get to eat. Or a pie made of millionaires. Ew, it looks terrible. Creamy pineapple and pecan mixture made with sweetened condensed milk cream cheese. Oh, weird. Coconut, pineapple, cherries. It's called that

because it is so rich. Because it is rich, yes, that's funny. I can picture what it tastes like, I feel like. Very sweet. Yeah, like ambrosia or something, right? Yeah, it's sort of an ambrosia vibe, but it's got cream cheese in it too. Interesting.

That's the end of family food, and the winner is Hank Family Wins. They win the hearse, as I said before, they win $45,000. And they win a croquet set as well. And- That'll be fun at Thanksgiving. It'll be great.

And Sari Family wins the home game version of Family Food. Oh, lovely. And a bunch of coupons. So it's a big CVS receipt of coupons that I had in my pocket. So there you go. But you also get to go on supermarket sweep. Yeah. Now we assure you on the supermarket sweep. Yeah. Well, we get your handshake like your firm handshake.

Thanks for playing. Thanks for playing. It's a really serious game. Oh, no, there's no laughing. This is really serious. That's the end of my game. Thanks everybody for listening to this episode of Thanks Pooping, the SciShow Tangents extra episode that only gets gotten by those of us who are our patrons on Patreon. Thank you so much for being one of those. When are we going to record our Cars 2 commentary, you guys? You wanna like, get together, like, come to my house and do it sometime?

Well, we can't actually go to... Saria's house, because she doesn't live here anymore. Well, look... I could fly back! Come visit for a second. We could fly there as well. Yeah, you could come to Boston. I don't know why that completely escaped my mind.

It's sad, but it's true. I have a big email to you guys about that. Well, an email with one sentence that says, how do we do this? So. I feel like. We're in a meeting right now. Let's just have the meeting. OK.

Listeners, I just cut out a big meeting we had, so we figured it out. Coming soon. All right. Lauren's gonna decide when we watch it. That's what we've included. Yeah. He hasn't seen Cars 2 yet, because every time we start watching it,

he's like, let's watch Cars 1. I agree. You're gonna have to tell him like, sorry son, you're gonna have to watch this for work. We're making a podcast. Yeah. This isn't about fun, this is about content. Sorry son, you're gonna have to watch this for work. We're making a podcast This isn't about fun. This is about content. Yeah learn this lesson now Well, he did this morning when he had his sock hands on he was like take a picture and share it with the whole world No, like wow, that's a very Hank Green instinct of you

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