Scott Horton Show - Just the Interviews - 2/9/23 Dave DeCamp on the Bombshell Story about how Biden Bombed Nord Stream

Episode Date: February 10, 2023

Dave DeCamp was back on Antiwar Radio this week to go over the major report by Seymour Hersh that details how a U.S.-Norwegian covert operation was responsible for the bombing of the Nord Stream pipelines last fall. Scott and DeCamp go through what Hersh reported and explain how the story compares to their initial expectations. They also revisit the absurd assertion made immediately by the legacy media hivemind that Russia must have bombed its own pipeline.  Discussed on the show: “How America Took Out The Nord Stream Pipeline” (Substack) “Who Blew Up the Nord Stream Pipelines? "Russia, Russia, Russia!" (Racket [formerly TK News]) “Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, February 8, 2023” (Institute for the Study of War) “Former Israeli PM Bennett Says US ‘Blocked’ His Attempts at a Russia-Ukraine Peace Deal” (Antiwar.com) KPFK.org RageAgainstWar.com Dave DeCamp is the news editor of Antiwar.com and the host of Antiwar News with Dave DeCamp. Follow him on Twitter @decampdave This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott. Get Scott’s interviews before anyone else! Subscribe to the Substack. Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjY Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

For Pacifica Radio, February 9th, 2003, I'm Scott Horton. This is Anti-War Radio. All right, y'all, welcome the show. It is Anti-War Radio. I'm your host, Scott Horton. I'm the editorial director of anti-war.com, and I'm the editorial director of anti-war.com. and I'm the editor of the new book, Hotter than the Sun. Time to abolish nuclear weapons. You can find my full interview archive, more than 5,800 of them now,

going back to 2003 at Scott Horton.org, and you can follow me on Twitter, if you dare, at Scott Horton's show. All right, y'all introducing today's guest, it's anti-war.com's news editor, Dave DeCamp. He's also the host of a new podcast, Anti-War News. with Dave DeCamp.

Welcome back to the show, Dave. How are you doing, sir? Good, Scott. Thanks for having me. Very happy to have you here, and we got a lot of important news to talk about. The bad news is, Cy Hirsch didn't email me back.

I've interviewed him a bunch of times, but it's been a while. But he's got a blockbuster over there at seymourherstack.com. It's called, if I page up to the top, how America took out the Nord Stream Pipeline. and he's only got one source, but it sure seems like a good one, and I already thought so, so I believe it,

but why don't you take us through this story here and catch everybody up to date? Yeah, so, I mean, this is a huge blockbuster scoop from Seymour Hirsch here, and he posted it on his substack early Wednesday morning. I mean, I did like a triple take when I first read it, but it details how the U.S., the United States, blew up the Nord Stream pipelines. Now, I always, since those pipelines blew up, always leaned towards the fact that, you know, I thought the U.S. was responsible somehow, but I thought maybe they separated themselves through a proxy through Poland or the U.K. or something like that.

But this article says it was U.S. Navy divers that planted C4 explosives on the Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2 pipelines in June 2020 during NATO drills in the region known as Baltops 22. If you remember when, you know, this first happened, when the explosion happened, there was a lot of people pointing out, hey, there was a bunch of NATO vessels, you know, operating in this area just a few months ago. So they were planted in June, and the explosives were detonated in September by a Norwegian spy plane that dropped some kind of sonar buoy that detonated these explosives. So this was done in coordination with Norway. So really what it is, it's a U.S. attack on Russian energy. infrastructure. It's an act of war. There's not really any way around that. But what I think is kind of the most explosive revelation or allegation from this whole thing is the fact that they were planning it before Russia invaded Ukraine. It said that they convened a meeting. They started

convening meetings about it in December 2021 at the order of President Biden. He authorized Jake Sullivan, his national security advisor, to form an interagency group to discuss. this. And now I saw Aaron Mote was on Tucker Carlson last night, and he made a really good point. In December 2021, that's when Russia, you know, submitted their proposals about their security concerns. They were trying to get a deal on a rollback of NATO or a guarantee that Ukraine wouldn't ever join NATO. But during this time, it looks like the U.S. was plotting how to bomb the Nord Stream pipelines. And in early 2022, so I would figure January, the CIA said, hey, we have a plan here. You know, we could plant these explosives. And something really interesting from the

report. Now, again, after these pipelines exploded, something I immediately cited when I first wrote up, you know, reported on the pipelines being attacked, was that President Biden basically threatened the Nord Stream 2 pipeline before Russia invaded. It was on February 7, 2022. He said, if Russia invades Ukraine, it will bring an end to Nord Stream 2, one way or another. He said made some sort of threat like that. And Victoria Newland said something very similar a few weeks earlier. Now, according to this report, the people at the CIA, the people planning this attack were kind of blown away by this, that to them, it was him speaking openly that they planned

to destroy these pipelines. And what's really amazing is that they said that this, because Biden was speaking about it, it changed the way it was, you know, originally it was supposed to be a special operations operation that they would have to notify Congress about, but because of what Biden said, they made it more classified and it was going to be a U.S. military operation with the support of the CIA. So they didn't have to tell Congress. So, and I saw Senator Mike Lee on Twitter, he was maybe the only person I've seen so far in Congress discussed this. He said something like, you know, I can't discredit this report, which is really disturbing. And we were not briefed on

this. So again, they played. planned it while Nord Stream 1 was, you know, delivering gas to Germany. And they planted these explosives in June 2022. It wasn't really until September, I think just a few weeks before the explosion, that Russia turned off the Nord Stream 1 pipeline. But they were doing this while Germany was still receiving gas. So it's also, you know, an attack on Germany. So it's just a huge revelation. But of course, you know, the mainstream media in the United States is not touching it. All I've seen so far is a few Reuters articles about how, you know, the White House and the CIA are denying it. They called it a blog post. But, you know, again, it's from Seymour Hirsch. And he mentions,

he wrote up a short thing about why he put it on substack. And he mentioned that when he first reported on Abu Ghraib, you know, the Pentagon said it was, it was nonsense, which turned out, of course, not to be true. Yeah, of course. And you look at all the attacks against him now. They call him a conspiracy theorist and all this stuff. Because he very corrupt. directly debunked their lies about al-Qaeda's false flag sarin attack in well there are three major ones but he debunked one of them there uh during the war in syria of course they always attack him and of course his work almost always holds up uh so uh anyway scott horton here anti-war radio talking with d'camp about seymour hersh's new piece at substack about um americans

blowing up the Nord Stream pipeline, the CIA and the Navy working together on it. Well, the Times in London is covering the story at least. Hopefully, someone at least in Europe will try to verify this based, you know, and get further confirmation of the story from different sources in Europe or something since I haven't checked the Post in the Times, but obviously they're not going to run with this and try to confirm it. If anything, they'll try to just debunk it. Yeah, I'm holding out hope that maybe, you know, there's somebody at the Post or the Times that, you know, still admire Seymour Hirsch and is going to try to, you know, look into this at least. And also recently, you know, at first, after the pipelines blew up, all the media was, you know, trying to infer that it was Russia, which is nonsense. And they called the idea that the U.S. was involved, you know, conspiracy theory. But in recent weeks, both the Washington Post and the New York Times published very long. long detailed stories about how there's no evidence that Russia was involved. The one from the Post, they cited like 23 officials in European countries in the U.S. that said it wasn't Russia, basically. So the narrative, you know, has fallen apart, the idea that it's Russia. And Sweden,

Denmark, and Germany have been investigating this. And these reports as well from the Times and the Post basically said, it's very strange that they're not saying anything, that they're not giving us any details and not blaming anybody. And then the Times of London reported last week that Germany is open to the idea, open to theories that it was a Western country that did it, to blame it on Russia. So I think the dam was kind of cracking as it was. So again, I'm hoping somebody is going to say, all right, let's look into this. Or maybe we could get some confirmation from somebody in Europe. I know a lot of German politicians are probably going to be angry about this.

And maybe in Norway, who knows? I know the Norwegian government denied it, obviously, but maybe we'll get some leaks from over in Europe. Well, look, I mean, it's almost as important as the rest of the story is that media consensus. It's amazing, right? It's like some kind of black magic. They just snap their fingers, and every media mine a bird in America repeats the same

thing. Oh, obviously, it was Russia. that did it. Obviously, it was Russia that did it when, no, obviously it was America or the British SBS, you know, our seals or the SBS or something like that who did it. Why would Russia blow up their own pipeline? They can just turn it off. It's the Americans, as you delineated here, have the motive to prevent this peace pipeline between Russia and Germany from going into operation. They were putting sanctions on it for years under Donald Trump, even put sanctions on the Swiss and German firms building the thing in order to try to stop it.

In fact, right here, I want to play this great medley done by ORF. It's zero RF on Twitter here of American media personalities, all agreeing about what must have happened here. We'd have to conclude without the evidence that it's most likely Russia. Russian sabotage on its own infrastructure. The common sense matter. I think it's Putin's way of sending a message. What Putin is saying to us by blowing up his pipeline is, look, I can blow up a pipeline.

Everyone knows that Putin did this himself. It's the closest thing to a smoking gun without the direct proof. Yeah. I think logic and common sense will tell you that without the evidence. Russia was playing high in the incident. We can say it for sure. Who sabotaged the Nord Stream 2 pipeline? The Russians.

I love the certainty and I appreciate the insight. Yeah. Yeah, there's exactly one country on that list of suspects, Brad, and Russia would be it. It's hard to imagine others with the significant motive, but, uh... CIA Director John Brennan. Russia is certainly the most likely suspect. Russia is certainly the likeliest suspect. Russia is most likely behind this.

Russia is the likely cause of it. Likelihood that Russia is behind the attacks. Very likely. Russian. Likely Russian. It is likely that this is an act by Russia. The most likely thing is in fact the most likely. The likelihood that Russia is behind the attacks.

Very likely. Russian. Likely Russian. It is likely that this is an act by Russia. The most likely thing is in fact the most likely thing. Russia is most likely suspect at this point, according to many, is Russia. I've heard people I trust saying that it's just probably Russia. Vladimir Putin, the most likely.

Russia is likely to blame. I mean, that's totally something Putin would do, and then go blame it on someone else. Essentially a scenario. a scenario of cutting off your nose to spite your face here. Why would Russia bomb its own pipeline? It doesn't seem to make sense if you're thinking in a rational actor scenario, but... Experts agree that Russia is the key suspect.

Experts say Russia. Experts point the finger at Russia. Experts pointing their finger at Russia. European leaders are pointing the finger at Russia. I know fingers pointing at Vladimir Putin. Pointing the finger at Moscow. Pointing the finger at Russia. The Occam's razor points to Russia.

Most logical points to Russia. German lawmakers point the finger at Russia. Russia. Spain points the finger at Russia. All signs point to Russia. Signs point to Russia. Russia and Russia. Still kind of seems to me like Occam's Reza still point to Russia's involvement. Russia is a prime suspect. Putin, the prime suspect. This is a not so subtle must message from the Russians. Russian sabotage. Russian sabotage. What's happening here is Russian sabotage by the Russians. Sabotaged by the Russians. More stable, rattle, more

intimidation from the Russian. His playbook. Putin's playbook. Sabotage sounds very part of his playbook. Um, You know, it's essentially owned by the Russians and a Russian company. It's hard to protect against self-sabotage. The assessment is Russia was behind it. Certainly, the suspicions have got to be Russia. Who's doing this? Got to be.

It's a obvious explanation that this was done by Russia. It's pretty obvious. This is a Russian sabotage operation. Russia says, oh, we had nothing to do with this. But, come on. It was probably Russia that blew up the Nord Stream 2 pipeline. Oh, I think it did it. I'm 99% certain of it.

Everything that I'm reading and sensing is it. Russia did it. Russian or Russian forces. Russia has done what it frequently does when it is responsible for something, which is make accusations that it was really someone else who did it. Anyway, the point is they never explained the logic there whatsoever when the Russians clearly can just turn the thing off. Obviously, it's the Americans who said for years that they were the ones

who wanted to stop the Nord Stream pipeline. And the Russians have no motive whatsoever. But it really is an achievement that they can get everyone in media to agree like that. Yeah, and if they wanted pretext to attack NATO or something, they have all the pretext that they need already. You know, they didn't need to do something like this. And the fact that they're pricing out the repairs, they're getting ready to repair the pipeline. It's something that was pointed out by the New York Times and the Washington Post just shows that why it wasn't Russia that did it, because why would they bomb it and then fix it? Yep.

Maybe Charlie Savage will look into it for us. Oh, yeah, there you go. I'm sure he'll get the straight dope direct from the CIA. All right. Well, so let's talk about jets. Are they really going to get fighter jets to the Ukrainians, which they said approximately a year ago, don't worry. We're going to do anything crazy and stupid like that. That would cause a war between NATO and Russia. Yeah. Well, that's the thing. You know, the U.S. has said they're not going to send jets. The Germans said it. The British said that we're saying it too, but now they're prepared to start training Ukrainian pilots. Zelensky visited London on one. Wednesday and he met with Rishi Sunak, the prime minister. And Sunak said, you know, we're going to start training Ukrainian pilots how to use NATO aircraft this spring. Britain still hasn't said that they're going to send them jets and neither has the U.S. or any other NATO country. But Ukrainian officials are confident that they're going to get them. But it's just a matter of how long the training is going to take. And honestly, just what's going to happen over the next few

months as it does seem like this sort of long expected Russian offensive is coming. Now we have Ukrainian officials saying, you know, they built up a lot of troops, you know, they're going to be ready to break through soon. So who knows where this war is going to be in a few months. If, you know, these Abrams tanks that Ukraine isn't going to get till probably towards the end of the year, if they ever get delivered, if they're going to get any of this stuff in time before a major Russian offensive. But yeah, the jets seem to be the next big escalation. that Ukraine is pushing for, and again, just because these Germany, you know, Schultz and all them have ruled them out, doesn't mean they're not going to get them because they also ruled

out tanks. They ruled out the IMRs. They ruled out a lot of stuff that they ended up sending them. Right. Well, you know, the Institute for the Study of War says that the escalation has begun that over the last couple of days, and I guess especially yesterday, the Russians started moving new divisions into La Hansk, and they believe that there's, you know, 300,000 people coming. That's what the Ukrainians have been panicking about. It's something that Colonel McGregor and Lieutenant Colonel Davis have been saying that they expect any time now, and I guess that's now. Yeah. And they've already, and Ukraine's been taking a lot of losses in Donetsk for the past few weeks. They've been losing some territory there. And that's before even this big

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Mm-hmm. It's really nasty. Huge casualty rates. Yeah, it's really pretty horrific. All right. So now let's rewind a little bit. this is so important that people understand. It goes back to the point you were making about how they were planning on blowing up this pipeline

right when Russia was saying, here's our proposed peace deal. And you could say that that treaty was too extensive and had too many demands. I don't really agree with that, but certainly it was a reasonable basis to open up real discussions. And we know, because they admitted it themselves, Derek Chollett, for example, who worked for Joe Biden, had said that, yeah, no, NATO was not on the table. We would not even discuss NATO membership for Ukraine with the Russians whatsoever. We already told them, it's a defensive alliance. You don't need to worry about it.

And that would be good enough for them when they knew that would not be good enough for them. And we have all those quotes of them saying, yeah, we could give them in Afghanistan. We could bog them down and bleed them to bankruptcy, just like we helped Osama bin Laden do to us over the last 20 years. And we'd do that to them again. And they just keep saying it over and over. again. So now we have, and we already had, you know, confirmation of this from different areas, not only were they not willing to negotiate in good faith to stop the war from happening. But then once the war broke out, it's actually pretty miraculous how close Zelensky and Putin

came to having a deal to end the war early in March or in April of 2022. And we already knew that the Americans and the British had intervened there from reporting from Ukrainian Pravda, and we already had, you know, complaints from the Turks involved. But now there's a new story, which is then Israeli Prime Minister Nathali Bennett has given this in-depth interview, Dave, where he explained his role in the shuttle diplomacy there and what happened to it all. And so people can find the interview on YouTube. It's in Hebrew, but it's got translations in the closed captions at the bottom that are pretty close. And I know you've looked at that very closely here. I was wondering if you can help explain what it is that Nafthali Bennett said.

Yeah, so this is huge. I mean, because I remember in these early days of the war, Bennett went to Moscow on March 5th to meet with Putin. He was trying, you know, playing the role of the mediator. And here on this interview on his YouTube channel, he really detailed that role. So he went and met with Putin, and he called Zelensky right afterward. He was calling back and forth between them. And he said that there was a real will, you know, on both sides to reach some sort of deal. And he got them to agree to major concessions. The one on the Russian side was he said that Putin conceded that, you know, he didn't need denotification, which is a pretty vague, you know, could be a pretty broad war goal.

But the way Bennett described that he said it was basically regime. change, that denotification meant the removal of Zelensky. So we got Putin to concede that. And he also got him to concede basically demilitarization or disarmament, as as Bennett put it. And then he got Zelensky to concede on NATO membership. And at the time in March 22, there was reports, a lot of reports and comments from Zelensky basically saying, you know, we don't need to join NATO. We could be neutral. Now, there's still a lot of questions about the security guarantees that Ukraine wanted at the time, the territorial aspect of it. But when Bennett was negotiating like this, mediating, he said he was coordinating it with the U.S., the U.K., France,

and Germany. And he said that they blocked it, which is how he put it. He said that they made a decision that they wanted to keep striking or hitting Putin, depending on the translation. But he said that there was a decision by these Western countries, basically, that they wanted this war to continue and that they blocked his efforts at mediating. So again, it's very a huge story. And the negotiations didn't end with his mediation efforts later that month in March, Russian and Ukrainian officials met in Istanbul. And then a few weeks after that, it was when Boris Johnson went over to Ukraine and

told Zelensky not to negotiate, even if you're ready to sign a deal, we don't want to. And then Turkey, who hosted the Istanbul talks, they came out and said, you know, we thought there was going to be a deal, but it turns out some of these NATO countries want the war to continue to weaken Russia. And then just a few days after that, Lloyd Austin says publicly that one of their goals in Ukraine is to weaken Russia. And then right after that was when that $40 billion Ukraine aid bill was passed through Congress when things really started to heat up. And it was around this time, too, that Russia withdrew from the north, from Kiev. And they said that they did it to kind of foster negotiations.

Right. And that was, you know, portrayed as a defeat. And then they use that to say, look, Ukraine has a chance at winning. Let's really ramp up this aid, $40 billion worth, you know, full steam ahead. And now look where we are a year later. They're going to lose at least the Donbass and maybe Zaproja and Curzon 2 now. They could have just implemented Minsk too, you know. Yeah, that's the thing.

I mean, that's the real. tragedy of it is it shows how little the Americans and NATO really care about Ukrainians. They just want to hurt Russia. At the end of the day, Ukraine is going to have lost hundreds of thousands of lives and more territory than they would have had to. Yeah. It's just absolutely disgraceful. And the thing is, too, is it's so blatant and open that, you know, past the present moment, that will be the history of this. The war guilt in Washington, D.C. on this one, is just absolutely unbelievable. But anyway, we're all out of time.

Listen, thanks for doing such a great job covering all the bad news for us at antiwar.com, Dave. Yes, Scott. Thanks for having me. All right, you guys, that is Dave DeCamp. Check out his great podcast, anti-war news. He basically covers the top of the page of antiwar.com for you every morning,

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