Scott Horton Show - Just the Interviews - 6/12/26 Jason Jones on Life for Christians in the West Bank and Gaza

Episode Date: June 18, 2026

Scott brings Jason Jones of the Vulnerable Peoples Project back on the show for an update on life for Christians living under the thumb of the IDF and Zionist settlers in the West Bank. Jones cites his personal experience and recent anecdotes from his organization. The two also discuss how the people of Gaza are faring. Discussed on the show: savewestbankchristians.com Jason Jones is a film producer, author, activist, popular podcast host, and dedicated human rights worker. And he is the founder and president of The Vulnerable People Project. Subscribe to his Substack.  Audio cleaned up with the Podsworth app: https://podsworth.com Use code HORTON50 for 50% off your first order at Podsworth.com to clean up your voice recordings, sound like a pro, and also support the Scott Horton Show! For more on Scott's work: Check out The Libertarian Institute: https://www.libertarianinstitute.org Check out Scott's other show, Provoked, with Darryl Cooper https://youtube.com/@Provoked_Show Read Scott's books: Provoked: How Washington Started the New Cold War with Russia and the Catastrophe in Ukraine https://amzn.to/47jMtg7 (The audiobook of Provoked is being published in sections at https://scotthortonshow.com) Enough Already: Time to End the War on Terrorism: https://amzn.to/3tgMCdw Fool’s Errand: Time to End the War in Afghanistan https://amzn.to/3HRufs0 Follow Scott on X @scotthortonshow And check out Scott’s full interview archives: https://scotthorton.org/all-interviews This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: Tax Attorney Matt Sercely https://agoristtaxadvice.com; Moon Does Artisan Coffee https://scotthorton.org/coffee; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom https://www.libertyclassroom.com/dap/a/?a=1616 and Dissident Media https://dissidentmedia.com Sign up for the Scott Horton Academy of Foreign Policy and Freedom at scotthortonacademy.com You can also support Scott’s work by making a one-time or recurring donation at https://scotthorton.org/donate/https://scotthortonshow.com or https://patreon.com/scotthortonshow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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They don't know what the fuck they're doing. Negotiate now. End this war. And now, here's your host, Scott Porton. All right, you guys. Introducing again, Jason Jones. He's from the Vulnerable People's Project,

and he's always just back from Palestine, so I'm making for an update on what the hell is going on over there. Welcome back to the show. How you doing, man? I'm doing great, Scott. It's good to see you. Yeah, man. So here, let me show everybody this thing. Oops, it got undone, so I got to do it again. Um, this is your sub stack.

And I had another one here by you. This one is about, uh, mostly Iran, but also the Palestine stuff. But then there was, um, which one did I want to show them? Well, that's not, uh, something else. Um, what was the one before that? I did get to talk to, uh, as we discussed on your show the other day. I did talk to Joe Kent today. talked a little bit about Tulsi and why she decided to stay in.

Try to have a little bit of a voice at the table still there, as we had speculated. Oh, yeah, this was it. This was the one I wanted to talk about. I thought I got it mixed up with another. But this will work. And then we got this one too. It's good. The Christians of the Middle East are Washington's Bridge to Peace.

The Trump ultimatum, time to end Netanyahu's reign in America. Boy, you got that, right. But so, well, I think I just start with asking you about the West Bank. I was on the Pierce Morgan show the other day, and it was, you know, two doves and two hawks, basically the way they do it. And the two hawks were saying about how the poor Christians of Bethlehem are being persecuted by the Islamist Muslim caliphate terrorists over there. And, you know, I mostly stayed out of this discussion because I wasn't really prepared to talk about

the West Bank or especially something that specific as what's going on in these Christian villages right now and the other guy you know we were on to talk about Iran and the other guy brought up Palestine where he just got back from there and he was doing his best to dispute these guys Josh Hammer and whoever the other guy was you know they speak in very declarative sentences and things so um dangled uh yeah they were very sure in fact I guess Josh Hammer said we went all over the West Bank but we couldn't go to Bethlehem and then It was funny because the guy disputed him. The implication was like the Bethlehem East told him stay out, right?

But then he clarifies it like because it was too dangerous for us to even try it. Like, oh, okay. So like you didn't even try to go to Bethlehem. I understand. But anyway, Bethlehem is safer than Austin. I mean, this is wild to me. Who were they afraid of in Bethlehem?

What was the great fear? Muslim terrorist, you know. Oh, my gosh. I guess, you know. Is that the wild? great fear. Someone should alert the locals, the local Christian community that they're their great enemy. Well, now, before you get started here, I mean, let me ask you, what do you know about it? Well, you know, I want to be fair and I don't want to be sanctimonious. When I first went

to the West Bank, which was recent, you know, I wasn't really involved in this issue until we were asked to evacuate some Christians who were wounded after Israel bombed Holy Family Catholic Church. and there were some pregnant women and children that needed medical attention, serious medical attention in Egypt. And so my organization, the vulnerable people project, who was asked to assist in this,

and we did assist in this. And I actually went to Egypt to greet the Palestinians that we had evacuated. And then following that, I'd gone to the West Bank. And I remember being scared. I remember, you know, I've been to Iraq. I was with the Peshmerga,

documenting the genocide during their, war against ISIS and I've been in Darfur during the genocide. But yet I was really, I had trepidation because I had all these friends that told me these harrowing stories about their time at the West Bank. And I wrote an op-ed on this actually called help. I'm an anti-Palestinian bigot where I detailed how thoroughly I had been indoctrinated and how embarrassing, how embarrassed I am after going there. When you go to Bethlehem, there's very few places in the world. And I travel. you know, for the past 30 years, I'm constantly traveling. There's very few places that I felt more at home.

If there were maybe nowhere else in the world, I feel more at home or more at peace or more safe, with the exception of Taibe than in the West Bank. This idea that it's dangerous is absolutely absurd. Like, it is dangerous if you get in a way of the IDF or settlers that just, you know, they behave like the clan in Mississippi, or in Indiana in the 1930s, that they can do what they want,

when they want, how they want, they will never be prosecuted. And they have been no prosecutions for any of the violent attacks and murders on Palestinians and the West Bank in six years. So yeah, you know, the IDF can be frightening and these settlers, and by the way,

they're right out of deliverance. When you see these settlers, they are, and I'm sure you've seen a lot of famous photos. They're not the brightest bulb in the pack and bulbs in the pack. And a friend of mine who's Jewish said, yeah, our Jewish supremacists are as embarrassing as your Lennon-Mill white supremacists.

These are embarrassing creatures, and they're vicious and they're cruel. But no, the Palestinians and the Muslims, now it's different. What's different in Gaza? You know, the Christians that work for VPP, we have several Christians that work for us in Gaza, and they have all, all of them have lost family to Hamas and lost family to the IDF. All of them have been in IDF prisons, and they have all been in Hamas prisons. But it's much different in the West Bank. And so the idea that the erasure of Christians in the West Bank has anything to do with

Islamist extremism or their Muslim neighbors is absurd. Israel just approved a new settlement, Shemma. When selling the settlement, the founder of the settlement said that this is our march towards Bethlehem. Their goal is the complete erasure of the Christian communities of the Holy Land. People like Smutrich and others say this out loud. There are two Palestinians a day, on average, murdered in the West Bank. The town of Tibet has been under relentless violent assault.

Not only by settlers, but it was documented in the one substack that she shared by Lex Pouye, who is our director of Middle East projects. She was there with the film crew when the IDF came in with a drone, with the helicopter, with armored vehicles and throwing stun grenades at a Marion procession and ordering them to stop. And if it wasn't for the vulnerable people project, we actually had press releases out before the sun rose on the East Coast of the United States.

Cardinal Pizabala intervened and that Marion Festival was allowed to proceed. But make no mistake, the radical Zionist settlers want a complete removal of Christians, more than Muslims, because they see Christians as quote-unquote adulterers who pervert the land because they're not strict monotheists. So they see the Trinity, those who believe in the Trinity pollute the land.

And it's embarrassing this is to say out loud. Like I know this isn't the 700 Club or John Hagey's program, but they believe that their Messiah cannot come until the land is removed from those who pollute it and who is polluting it Christians. Well, so that explains at least the motive there other than just the otherness and all of that kind of thing. for people who really believe in that stuff.

I don't think that's in Yahoo believes in it. He speaks very openly about using religion to achieve political ends. And I don't think they're not only manipulating a naive evangelical Christians in America and Catholics and others who consume evangelical media, but they're using, they're instrumentalizing religion to move Jews into this area to take the land.

So, I mean, look, if you look at like the worst that's happened to Middle Eastern Christians in this century so far, it's George W. Bush's war in Iraq, which led to the destruction of the Chaldean communities there. And then in the dirty war, Obama's dirty war in Syria, led to all kinds of dislocations. I think, you know, a couple of those Christian communities survived in fact, but, you know, many more of them were just kind of scattered to the wind. And that includes, I'm sorry, I used to know names of all the day. different sects. You know, I know there's the Marianites and the Chaldeans are mostly the Iraqis,

but I know there's, you know, three or four different ancient sets of Christians in Syria who they were demolished, you know, seemingly as like a side effect of Obama's war against the Shiites in Syria is what that really was about. But then this is a whole other thing, right? Where what you're talking about is where this is a religious war. against the Christians of the region. And America's on the side of the Israeli, so-called Jewish state in perpetrating this violence.

Yeah, they're on the side of those who would ethnically cleanse the name of religion. And it's quite sorrowful. You mentioned all of the different rights that were in Syria or that are in Lebanon or that are in Palestine. What's been really a beautiful privilege for me and my work serving vulnerable. And I founded VPP. in the lead up to the invasion of Iraq, anticipating the cleansing of Christians from Iraq

when we shattered this secular equilibrium, following the concerns of, at the time, Pope John Paul II. That's why I founded this organization to advocate for those communities. And it was horrific to watch everything unfold exactly the way St. John Paul, the Great, said that it would unfold with the erasure of the ancient Christian and Yazidi communities.

And for whatever we want to say about the big, bad, evil Ottoman Empire, and there were, there were, you know, relentless eruptions of religious persecution and abuse across 750 years. But across those 750 years, you had 70 distinct religious communities survive. And what's interesting about when you travel the Middle East

is you said all of these different rights, there's Nestorian Christians, there's the Church of the East, Eastern Orthodox, Greek Catholics, Roman Catholics. You know, you said, the Assyrians and the Chaldeans, there's the Johanites, those who John the Baptist reached, but Jesus, the message of Jesus didn't.

There's the Samaritans. Can you believe there are Samaritans still in the Holy Land? I call those Trad Jews. They worshipped at the first temple, a site of the first temple. Then you have the Mizrahi, the Jews that never left, that lived side by side with their Arab neighbors. They call themselves Arab Jews. and so there is a beautiful diversity that I think that because they needed to homogenize our

understanding of the region so we can be indoctrated. We don't really understand the great and beautiful diversity. And since the U.S. invasion of Iraq and then the toppling of Assad, and now the genocide and ethnic cleansing in Gaza and the Ecclesiocide in the West Bank, we're seeing the beautiful diversity of the Middle East being erased. and it's not just Christianity, Yazidi, al-Ahoites, Islam. You're seeing the homogenization of the beautiful diversity

of the Jewish community. I think that's one of the great tragedies of Zionism that's not been discussed is how beautiful and diverse the Jewish communities were from Iran to Yemen. There are still 40,000 Jews in Iran. And in fact, we documented the oldest Jewish community's experience in the first days of the war.

I had a film crew there in Tehran and was the oldest in-use, extant, synagogue in the world. Eleven days after my film crew left, the United States and Israel flattened that synagogue and bombed the neighborhood, the Jewish neighborhood in Tehran. So these wars have not been good for minorities,

the ethic and beautiful tapestry, these little communities throughout the Middle East. And it started with Bush. Most Christians were ethnically cleansed from Iraq before Obama became president of the United States. Right. All right, you guys, let's take just a quick sec to talk about expat,

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That was just incredible. And, you know, I don't know, not much of a little bit of this guy just seems so odd to me. to hear, you know, some of these discussions where, like, some of the Christians are saying, well, you know, at least the Muslims recognize Jesus as a prophet and even say that he was sinless and stuff like that. And then our friends in the Jewish state saying that, no, the Christians are these total apostates or might have got it through again,

saying that Messiah already came and all of these things and saying that, hey, at least the Muslims are mono-eastern. monotheists, unlike the Christians, at least they don't claim that their prophet was the savior. That's still something else for the future to them. And so they're still monotheists, unlike the Christians, spit when like, wow, I bet most American Christians don't know that that's the way this is being framed on the other side over there. No, it's hard to believe. I mean, Mike Huckabee, I just saw a recent interview with Mike Huckabee where he's like, I'm a Christian, and I play the bass in my band at my head.

church and Israel. And I'm accepted and no one's ever spit on me. Really, Ambassador Mike Huckabee, big white American. No one's ever spit on me either, but they spit on my friends. And if you're a Middle Eastern Christian from Chicago born and raised, your family could have been here since the early 20th century. And when you go back and you walk down those streets, they will spit on you too. I mean, this is just the reality of it all.

And it is hard to believe. You know, it's, you know, you're not a religious man. I'm an adult convert to Christianity. I was a hardcore atheist. But what I, what initially attracted me about Christianity was this idea that there was a religion that said that there is no other, that we are, we are called to love,

even those who hate us and persecute us, or to ask God to bless those who persecute us, to see that Christian Zionism has taken a faith for whatever you want to, you know, I'm not talking, whatever you want to say about Christianity, I think there's two striking things. One is it's a religion where God sacrificed for you. And two, it's a religion that says there is no longer a distinction between Jew, Jew and Gentile, us and them. We are one human family. And how you can take that religion and then twist it and say that Palestinians are Amalek. They are so radically other that they have to all be

destroyed. And then you have members of Congress like Randy Fine when someone showed him a picture of a dead child. That's a beautiful photograph. I wish I could see more of those. Or that Ambassador Huckabee can go to Gaza. And I talked to somebody on his team who was with him in Gaza. And one of my, our director of Middle East projects was there as well, and she documented it. He said, when they were in Gaza, they all witnessed starvation and famine. He had to bite his lip as Huckabee came out with Whitkoff and held a press conference and said there is no signs of hunger or famine in Gaza. It's really, really striking and quite unbelievable how one could turn their back on their fellow human, let alone their fellow Christian. You know, people always say at VP, do you just

serve Christians? I'm like, no, we can't. As much as I'd like to only serve Christians, we're a Christian organization, so we serve everyone. And I don't look to see if they're baptized. I don't ask if they're baptized. We don't check if they're circumcised. But the fact that you would turn your back on your own co-religionists, let alone your fellow human beings, and profess on the world stage that you're this great model of Christianity as Ambassador Huckabee does is scandalous. Yeah.

All right. So now let's zoom back in on Bethlehem. I mean, how many times have you been there? When was the last time you were there? And tell me about the Christians and the Muslims of Bethlehem and what they've told you about it because you speak in pretty definitive terms here. but I want to hear specifics. Yeah, and I'd love to have Palestinian Christians from Gaza, the West Bank,

to introduce you to folks like Alice Casilla from the West Bank, who's had her home demolished four times. She's been beat and brutalized and arrested for defending herself. Or Hulilaliyag, whose sister, 18-year-old sister and father were murdered by the IDF, Christians in Gaza. I think it's great that they can speak for themselves. I was in the West Bank. The last time I was in West Bank was Christmas.

In fact, I've spent the past two Christmases in the West Bank, and I'm so comfortable there, and I feel so safe there, that I actually brought two of my teenage sons with me this year to spend Christmas in the West Bank. And their greatest concern was the settlements in Stema, the announcement in November of last year that they would be demolishing 11,000 Palestinian homes to make way for a new settlement. With each settlement comes to new gates. There are 85 gates in Bethlehem, right? now it makes the Jim Crow South, West Bank makes the Jim Crow South look like, you know,

Cupcake Christmas Wonderland. It's an apartheid state. It's an ethno-nationalist, apartheid state where they brutalize the people. They do not have equal protection under the law. In fact, you know, I'm against the death penalty and I'm going to make a very inappropriate joke, but when I was a young conservative activist and people asked me, like in the early 90s when I was chairman of the college Republicans. Why are you against the death penalty? I would make a very inappropriate joke. I'd say, well, you know, the death penalty was all fine and good up until a few years ago

when we only gave it, you know, to black people and mentally retarded people. But now white people get it and it's just gone too far. We have to stop. But, you know, even in the worst days of the Jim Crow South, where that was true, there was not an equal application for the law. I mean, Israel now said that they have capital punishment, but only for Palestinians. Right, in the law. It's in the law.

Even in the Jim Crow South, like my horrible joke, you know, it's an awful joke, but it proved the point, I think. But even in the dark days in the United States where we really, it's kind of true. You know, it's a horrible joke, but it's just kind of true. But, you know, white people could get the death penalty. And Smutris's wife, on his birthday, to celebrate this law. and this guy just looks like a clan leader from the 30s. He's just a goofball.

He's just, he's cartoonish. His wife gave him, or Ben Gavir's wife, I apologize. Ben Gavir's wife gave him a birthday cake with a news on it. And you just can't make this stuff up. But when you were on that panel and they said the threat to Christians and the Holy Land is coming from Islamist extremism, I would like them to point it out, when? Are Muslims raiding Tibet every day?

Or is it Israeli settlers? Are roving gangs of Muslim hoodlums roaming through Bethlehem and through the town square harassing locals? Oh, no, that's the IDF. Is it the Palestinian Authority that's dividing the West Bank up and not allowing Christians to move freely? Oh, no. That's the state of Israel.

So who is the real threat to Christians in the Holy Land? It's the state of Israel and these radical settlers. So tell me all about the town of Taiba and where that is and what all's been happening there recently because I know it's a hell of a lot. Yeah, it's Erie. It's Erie. Let me tell you, I love the West Bank. I love it. I love Ramallah. I love Bethlehem and Betzegor. I love going there. When you push off the Taiba, I always get butterflies. And so I love it. was there with my children and some of my staff after, you know, a couple days after Christmas this year. There had been attacks the days leading up to our being there, and there were attacks days

soon after we left. But while we were there, there were no attacks. But there's just this little Christian, ancient Christian village that Jesus Christ himself walked through this village as is recorded in scripture. Christians have been there since the first century, and you have these radical settlers from, you know, Jersey and, you know, Jersey and. and Russia and Ukraine and Brooklyn. And they come there and with the full protection of the IDF

are ruthless and endless and endless and their harassment to the local Christian population there. This Christian population is utterly helpless. And then what the Zionists will say is, well, it's not the state of Israel's job to protect them. It's the Palestinian Authority. you know, if the Palestinian Authority attempted to defend Palestinians from violent settlers, it would be about, you know, an hour and a half before the West Bank started looking like Lebanon and Gaza.

And they know that. They know they're being provoked. And so they really just have to sit there and take it. And the only ones that can really stop it, it's us. We can't stop it. And that's where we launched SaveWestbank Christians.com. And if you go to SaveWestbank Christians.com, we update daily every time there's an attack, we post a report, and we issue a press release. We just started this a couple of weeks ago. And we're going to be relentless. We're also putting billboards up around the West Bank, announcing to the settlers that we're there and that we're documenting everything and that we're paying attention.

And we want to make this a primary issue. If you want to be the Republican nominee or Democrat nominee, for that matter, you better say that you make it a priority, that it is a priority that these settlements end and that these ancient Palestinian communities are protected. And for your audience, Scott, I mean, I'm always transparent. Yeah, we're a Catholic apostolate. The Vulnerable People Project is rooted in Catholic social teaching

and the Christian understanding of a human person. But we're probably the only nonprofit in the world right now that has armed guards in front of Muslim girls' schools in Afghanistan, synagogues in Africa, churches around the world. You know, we've served the Yazidis, the Muslim Uyghurs. It's not just about protecting the indigenous Palestinian Christian communities. It's about protecting, and everyone there should, you know, people argue as Zionist or does Israel have a right to exist? This question they love to throw. Everyone living there, and especially indigenous people, should be, should live

free of persecution and exploitation, they should have equal protection under the law in their homeland. That means Palestinian Christians and Muslims. That means Druze, and that means Jews. And so it's just sad that we have been funding, our taxpayer dollars have been funding, the erasure of these ancient, beautiful communities. Hey, you guys, don't forget to check out my substack, Scott Horton's show.com. And if you're a paying subscriber there, you get the shows first and with no commercials. And also you get the audio book of Provoked, which I'm serializing there. The first two chapters are out and the more are coming soon.

So that's Scott Horton Show.com. Hey, look, Scott Horton Show swag. And I think there's Libertarian Institute swag and stuff, Scott Horton Academy stuff here too. Maybe not the Institute, just the show in the academy. me just click below on the YouTube page there. Before we go, give me a last little bit on what you know about the West, I mean, pardon me, about the Gaza Strip. You know, it's been taken out of the news since the supposed ceasefire of last October,

which I guess was the purpose of that. And I mean, they were killing 100, 120 people a day. Now they're killing, I guess, like 100, 120 people a week, something like that, maybe a little bit less than that. They're still, you know, relentlessly slaughtering men, women, children in the Gaza Strip and I know you still have aid programs going on there and all that. So what can you tell us about the latest from Gaza? Yeah, no, it's hell on earth.

And these people can barely hold on. One of the things people need to understand is it's not just that they're on low calories. They're living without shelter. They're living in a muck of demolished build. Think of 9-11 syndrome. All of the firefighters that got cancer and died in the wake. of the collapse of those two buildings. In Gaza, we have 95% of the buildings destroyed. Children don't have access to clean water. We have, I believe, it's 16,000, no, 18,000 children in Gaza that don't have

one living relative to care for them. So there are orphans, there are children, there are just, there are more children missing limbs in Gaza than the rest of the world combined. So you have children without limbs, without living relatives, living in rubble, trying to find water, trying to find food. This is the reality on the ground with constant strikes. It is literally hell on earth and that we can't bring this word to it. And not to mention what's happening in Ukraine and they're just grinding the youth of Ukraine and Russia into mist. And the world has just become accustomed. I guess it's like Hunger Games. We're living in Capitol City. I got my latte and a new season of the latest spinoff of, what is that Wyoming TV show? Everyone's

watching. Anyway, you know, there's something on Netflix we can binge watch in between peaking over at the hell, you know, the wars on the other side of the world. It's just, this wars have to end. Yeah. I'm pretty sure it was Ramsey Burrude I was reading who was talking about, Is it Ramsey? I think it was Ramsey. Forgive me, man. I'm old and stupid now. But he said, yeah, it was Ramsey.

Wasn't it? He says, he wrote home to Gaza. Oh, yeah, it was definitely him because he talked about, he talked to his cousin's wife. His cousin's dead. I was killed by the Israelis with a bunch of his other family members. But he talked to his cousin's widow. And he asked her like, hey, just tell me.

Like in y'all's own words, it's like, tell me what you think I need to hear out here. Like, what does the world need to know? What's life like right now? Like he asks his general questions as he could and just said, like, you tell me, you know, kind of thing. And then so he reports back what she said and then other people around her too, you know, in the neighborhood, whatever. She, you know, relayed the message to collect some quotes there. And they all talk about the rats, the unending, like, you know, just the whatever, the population is so big. they never go away.

The children are just terrorized out of their minds. Nobody can sleep. They can eat right through the tents, eat everybody's food and just their filthy feces everywhere and just everything about rats do. Like, you know, a population all having to live in the New York subway system level of filth there. And there's just no one to do anything about it, right?

Like you just have to have a total regime change in Israel and get a government contract for every American exterminator there is and and you know breed of you know some some magical scientific breakthrough to breed hundreds of thousands of cats to go and just somehow clean out that place i mean what are you going to do it's been like this for years now and there's nobody there's nobody can do anything about it until jared kushner's magic wish comes true and then palston who are these people's got what and they wipe it all clean Yeah, Scott, who are these grown men?

And this is why we're so grateful for you. And that's why so many of us admire you. The war is just fundamentally repulsive. These, you know, Lindsay Graham was a JAG officer. I was an infantryman. There's the way that these grown men talk about violence and war. You know, war is the fountainhead of human sex trafficking, by the way. And then you mentioned the rats.

Like the things that people don't even think about. You think about the children without legs. You know, you think about the orphans, but you don't think about all of the skin diseases and the rashes and the rats and the intestinal disruptions and the lung problems. And this is all day, every day, all day, every day. And it seems that we've become a people without empathy. And what's really sad is it's the evangelical Christians, the fundamentalist Christians that are the ones that have been exposed to be so. emptied out and devoid of love and thoughtfulness. And I really believe, and I wrote an article this year or so ago,

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Hey, you guys, me here for tax. lawyer Matt Sersely and he is at agoristtaxadvice.com. He is a libertarian, one of us, and he's here in case you run a small to medium-sized business or you make a lot of money at your high-powered salary job and you're looking to protect your wealth from the IRS who wishes to take it. No gimmicks here. You have to obey the law, but he knows the law and he will make sure that you do not pay one penny more than you have to talk to your new lawyer, Matt Sersely, at agoristtaxadvice.com. You know, I told you the other day on your show that I know a guy, he texted me, he's a very sincere Protestant Christian who texted me and said, man, I got people in South

Carolina. Oh, for people who didn't hear the news, Lindsay Graham won the primary in South Carolina. And my guy said to me, he goes, listen, I got people in South Carolina who voted for Lindsey Graham so they can be raptured up to heaven. They sincerely believe that. This is what their ministers have told them that the only way to save their own souls

is to vote for Lindsay Graham. I think that would be amazing if the rapture happened and the only people raptured voted for Lentz. I think the world would be an amazing place and then the Messiah can come. Maybe this is what this is all about. Get these people out of here. God is going to take them away. Get it? Your 2000. Okay, that was

26 years ago, but still, no, yeah, millennium. And Scott, can I give, I just want to leave two key points. Two very important points. Do you're influential, I know there's very influential people watching this, your show. Israel needs to stop erasing the ancient communities of the West Bank. and they can begin by collapsing the settlements outside of Betzahor. It's become a great scandal. So much so that the President Herzog, the president of Israel, called them out as extremists undermining Israeli culture and society.

The former head of the Mossad from 2011 to 2017, who had been a retired Special Forces officer prior to that position, a patriot who sacrificed for the Israeli people, came out and said he was ashamed of being Jewish because of what's happening in the West Bank. I responded to him quoting Hannah-Iran to German students in the 1950s that told Hannah that they were embarrassed of being German.

She said, you shouldn't be embarrassed of being German or ashamed of being German. You should be ashamed of being human. And I said this to this Mossad officer, your shame should come from being human. We're awful. All of us, we do really awful things that there's nothing with being Jewish.

But here's the point, that our position is not, you know, outside of even what very, you know, the president of Israel is saying and the former head of the Mossade is saying, stop the settlement in Stemma. It will end Christianity in Bethlehem and Betz O'Hour. On the Trump's watch, Christianity will disappear where Christianity was born on Trump's watch. On Marco Rubio, Catholic, who's going to wear his faith on his sleeve when he runs for presidents watch, the Christians of Bethlehem will be erased, the Shepard's Field will be erased, and the Christians of Teva will be erased. You know, they did this before so they think

they can get away with it. We watched his Azerbaijan completely removed with Israel's financing and backing the Armenian Christians from Artsakh. But this time, I really feel Christians, we've got our act together thanks to people like you and Tucker Carlson and Candice Owens. The world's eyes are now on Stema, the world's eyes are now on Tibet, and we must battle to protect them. They cannot protect themselves, but we can protect them. And so if you go to SaveWestBankchristians.com, also when every time a settler or an IDF soldier sneezes in the face of a Christian, if they, you know, burn down their home, assault them, raid a village, set a farm on fire, we write a press release every single time.

We write a report every single time. We're documenting all of it. That's great. And there's a real easy email list to sign up for there, right? Yeah, and if you sign up for that, you don't have to read them all the time. It gets a little depressing. But, you know, when you need to,

when your friends say this is impossible, the state of Israel would never hurt Christians. They're our friends. They're our greatest defenders. Yeah. All right, listen, so there you go, everybody. Save West Bank Christians.com. And then check out Jason's great

substack blog here. The Christians of the Middle East are Washington's Bridge to Peace. Is this one in the Trump ultimatum. Time to end Netanyahu's reign in America. Other stuff like that. And he's got a show, too. Listen to this great show. I'm on it.

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