Scott Horton Show - Just the Interviews - 7/3/26 Kyle Anzalone on Where Things Actually Stand in the Middle East

Episode Date: July 7, 2026

Scott brings Kyle Anzalone on the show to run through where things stand with the fighting in Lebanon, the talks between the US and Iran, the flare-up between the Houthis and the Saudis, the unending suffering of the people of Gaza and more. Discussed on the show: The Libertarian Institute Substack Kyle Anzalone is news editor of the Libertarian Institute, opinion editor of Antiwar.com, co-host of Conflicts of Interest and host of The Kyle Anzalone Show. Follow him on Twitter @KyleAnzalone_  Sign up for the Scott Horton Academy of Foreign Policy and Freedom at scotthortonacademy.com For more on Scott's work: Check out The Libertarian Institute: https://www.libertarianinstitute.org Check out Scott's other show, Provoked, with Darryl Cooper https://youtube.com/@Provoked_Show Read Scott's books: Provoked: How Washington Started the New Cold War with Russia and the Catastrophe in Ukraine https://amzn.to/43D82oY (The audiobook of Provoked is being published in sections at https://scotthortonshow.com) Enough Already: Time to End the War on Terrorism: https://amzn.to/4eMQblu Fool’s Errand: Time to End the War in Afghanistan https://amzn.to/4a5fKvx Follow Scott on X @scotthortonshow And check out Scott’s full interview archives: https://scotthorton.org/all-interviews This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: Tax Attorney Matt Sercely https://agoristtaxadvice.com; Moon Does Artisan Coffee https://scotthorton.org/coffee; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom https://www.libertyclassroom.com/dap/a/?a=1616 and Dissident Media https://dissidentmedia.com; Expat Money https://expatmoney.com/scott; and Crowdhealth https://www.joincrowdhealth.com/ (use promocode Horton) You can also support Scott’s work by making a one-time or recurring donation at https://scotthorton.org/donate/https://scotthortonshow.com or https://patreon.com/scotthortonshow Audio cleaned up with the Podsworth app: https://podsworth.com Use code HORTON50 for 50% off your first order at Podsworth.com to clean up your voice recordings, sound like a pro, and also support the Scott Horton Show! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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All right, you guys, I got Kyle Anselone here. He's the opinion editor at anti-war.com, the news editor at the Libertarian Institute. Libertarian Institute.org. And of course, he hosts the Kyle Anzalone show every day on the YouTube's and all the podcatchers and all of those things. And here is the Institute substack, everybody. Did you know? Oh, I got to click a thing.

Did you know that we had a substack? I'm apparently the only one who likes everything on there, but we do have one. And it's the news. It's the news section at libertarian institute. org slash news. And anyway, I was just thinking how funny it is that you're always interviewing me, Kyle, when you're the one who knows everything and you're the reason I know things is because I read what you're putting together every day for.

So I'm so glad to have you back on the show. How you doing, man? Doing well, Scott. Thanks for having me back on. Yeah, man. So the wars, especially the Middle East thing, I want to try to catch up. It's so difficult to keep up with everything Trump says and then changes his mind about day in and day out, sometimes multiple times a day.

and then we have, you know, the Iranians and their own intransigence and, you know, the way that they're behaving in the Gulf and all of that and their restrictions and what have you. And then, of course, the wild card is the dang Lakut over there in Tel Aviv and who they decide to bomb and what kind of concessions they're really willing to make. And, you know, people interview me so dang much. I'm really tired of hearing my own point of view on the thing, and I'm really anxious to hear yours, actually,

about where you think we are with the talks, how solid is the progress being made, what role the Israelis that, of course, has Bala as well have to play in the thing in terms of their wild card status and what they can do to disrupt progress and all of that. And then, of course, I guess the last round of fighting started with the Iranians hitting a boat in a ship in the Gulf

rather than anything the Israelis did this time. So then Trump wasn't willing to stand for that and whatever. I don't even know if it was really a violation of the deal, but he decided that he was going to get some strikes in and response and all that. So anyway, I was just wondering if you can, I guess first of all,

get us just sort of up to date on all the latest breaking who's talking in what town in Switzerland and to what end and then get into some of the broader context there. Yeah, so we're now under this memorandum of understanding period which was kicked off. I think the document was signed on June 17th, and so as of the recording of this, about two weeks into it.

And it was meant to be that the memorandum of understanding was two things. One, it was an interim agreement on how things would proceed during the ceasefire period. And two, it provided the framework for a 60-day period in negotiations to permanently end the conflict

and to establish, a new nuclear agreement with Iran. Now, some people pointed out that 60 days to get all this done is quite optimistic. And if discussions were going well, it would probably take longer than 60 days, especially given that, you know, the Iranian Ayatollah appears to still be in hiding. And so it probably takes several days to relay messages to the top of the Iranian leadership to, you know, get analysis, get those people in communication, then to get messages back to the United States. It should be quicker on the U.S. side, but still, there's a lot of layers of

bureaucracy to go through and also just the chaos of the Trump administration where at times, it seems J.D. Vance is walking down one path and Marco Rubio, Pete had set than Donald Trump are walking down another. It seems that the real significant conflict that we have here now is how both sides are treating the memorandum of understanding. It laid out 14 points, including how the Strait of Formuz would be treated, making sure that the ceasefire expanded to Lebanon and the unfreezing of some Iranian assets. Iran is asking for $12 billion in total, including $6 billion to be released up front. There's, I guess, two ways to look at it. Either one, the U.S. agreed to this, and all the public statements, particularly from Trump and

Marco Rubio, are just bluster for the domestic audience, or maybe they're trying to make the Israelis think that they're not as deep in these negotiations as they really are, or that the Americans agreed to this memorandum of understanding to extend the ceasefire period for 60 days, in which time Donald Trump hopes this negotiation, negotiating position will be better than it is now, and he'll be able to extract more at the table from Iran at that time. But the Iranians are really using this as, can we trust the Americans? Are the Americans going to comply and implement with this agreement? And so far, they clearly haven't.

They're allowing Israel to continue to attack and occupy Lebanon. And most importantly, they're really interfering in what's happening in the Strait of Hormuz. Iran is trying to lock down agreements with Oman and the Gulf Arab states on how the Strait of Hormuz is going to be handled going forward. Iran says it's joint Iranian and Omani territory. They cite international law for this, saying that, international law states that territorial waters that span 12 miles from the coast because the Strait of Hormuz as 21 miles wide at its narrowest point.

That means that, you know, there the territory is divided between Iran and Oman, but this is an international waters that ships could just travel through. This is the sovereign territory of these two countries, and they're going to establish an agreement on how that's handled, and the Gulf states are going to agree to pay a certain feed to Iran for the usage or maintenance, I think, is the way Taran is trying to frame it up the street. Now, they're talking about generating $40 billion a year off of this. That seems very, according to some people I've seen who have done the calculations on the number of ships going through, the value of the cargo.

It's hopefully not going to be that high because it would probably result in net increase in gas prices for Americans. but I think Iran believes they're going to make substantial money there. And so you mentioned last week there was some fighting kicked off by the Iranians. Essentially what happened there is that the Americans and the Omanis, and this was spearheaded by Marco Rubio, attempted to do an end run around Iran and just have the Omanis open up a free shipping lane through their territory. So Iran started attacking the cargo ships using that shipping lane

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All right now. So I mean there's just a major obstacle in the case of Lebanon where the Iranian's interpretation of the MOU is that not only all fighting has to end but obviously as part and parcel that. Israelis have to completely withdraw from southern Lebanon. And the Israelis are saying there's no way in hell that they're going to do that, even though what I gather from William Van Wagonen, who was reporting, not just, I mean, when I talked to him, he was in Beirut, but he was reporting from the front lines earlier

that day. And you said, they don't even really control all the land to the Latani River, much less the Zahari, which is the one they wish that they controlled all the land to. But obviously their position is that they're not going anywhere. So I wonder, first of all, what's happening on the ground there that you know of? And then also, you know, politically between Washington and Tel Aviv is the message getting through that you guys are going to have to get the hell out of there for this deal to go through. And we mean to see that happen or not. The week after the memorandum of understanding was signed, there were remarks by Donald Trump that were critical of Israeli actions in Lebanon.

and, you know, maybe people jump to conclusions about how serious that was a, if that meant Donald Trump, this was like Trump publicly attempting to put pressure on Israel over Lebanon, or if this is just kind of Donald Trump being Donald Trump, where the man says a lot of different things about issues and, you know, maybe that day somebody has showed him a video of Israel blowing up an entire apartment building and him thinking, boy, that was more than, then it should be. So that's a real problem.

But I don't, it doesn't seem that the Trump administration has done anything behind the scenes to tell the Israelis to knock it off. Right after the MOU was signed, Israel attacked Iran or Lebanon, excuse me, quite a bit. But then it certainly slowed down from the height just after the memorandum of understanding. And I think that's maybe Israel trying to signal, hey, we're trying to be more reasonable on this. But every Israeli leader from Denyahu to defense minister Israel, Cads to on down the chain, they say Israel is not leaving Lebanon until Hezbollah is fully eradicated. And the ceasefire makes it very clear that, you know, that certainly isn't one of the conditions, that Israel has to, you know, abide by a ceasefire in Lebanon.

That would assume, assumingly mean Hezbollah would have to stop attacking Israel as well. I guess there's some debate on whether if Hezbollah would be able to attack the Israeli positions in Lebanon because they are violating Iran's interpretation of the truce, which states that not only does Israel have to end the air war against Lebanon, but also remove its troops. Well, now, and so what about this deal? I mean, when I heard about the deal that Rubio struck between Lebanon and Israel, I just scoffed at the damn thing because it just sounds stupid that, well, first of all, just that the Lebanese army is going to take care of Hezbollah for Israel. Don't worry about it. And then secondly, there's talk now,

oh, the first they have to purge all the Shiites from the infantry. And then they're going to take on Hezbollah. When all those Shiites go and join Hezbollah with their rifles, presumably, or at least whatever military experience they have. So, I mean, they're damned if they do and damned if they don't.

And it seems to me impossible to believe that they're even going to try. The Lebanese army is not going to attack Hezbollah and route them out of there. The Israelis sure as hell can't do it. And who believes that the Lebanese army can? And it just seemed like such a strange basis upon which to make the deal. And I wondered, I mean, first of all, just if Rubio's retarded, but then also maybe whether, I mean, because it could be that he just has no idea.

And you know what I mean? It makes assumptions here. But also maybe I thought, you know, possibly it was meant to just sabotage the vice president and his diplomacy with Iran by essentially, you know, adding this sort of obstacle to resolution of the Lebanese conflict. Yeah, one thing I'll say, Scott, is this does go bad to the Biden administration. This is something that Biden's envoy, maybe to the Middle East in general, or maybe he was the ambassador to Lebanon, Amos Hostin, who is a veteran of the IDF, but nonetheless was representing

the Americans in negotiations between Tel Aviv and Beirut back in the Biden administration. And this was something that, you know, they were advocating for and talking about having the Lebanese army go in and take on Hezbollah. Now, I mean, I don't know what the fighting capability of the Lebanese army is, particularly if you're a move. I think it's like 25 to 40 percent of the military is Shiite. Now, there probably is at least enough bad. among the Lebanese Shiites that some of them would be willing to fight against Hezbollah and probably would remain in the army.

But even if you're talking about 15, 20 percent, that's still a fifth of your army. And a portion of that fifth is going to go fight for the other side, not just go home. And not only do they maybe you say tape their rifles, but they also have certain tactical advantages that they could pass along to Hezbollah about how the Lebanese army function. and operates and where their weapons caches are and things. So there would be a lot of intelligence loss there. That being said, I guess I try not to rule out absolute stupidity as a reason the U.S. government and Israel would do something. And, you know, this seems to be one of the things to me too, Scott, where it doesn't even

necessarily have to be a situation where the Beirut is prepared to go to war with Hezbollah. but if Tel Aviv and Washington make Hezbollah believe that the Lebanese army is going to go to war against them, or if they push the Lebanese army to say take up some position in southern Lebanon and then some drone hits that base, who knows who fired it. It could have come from Syria. It could come from Jordan. Could come from Esbala. It could come from the ID.

But this really, I think, sets up a situation where Lebanon, a country that's already going through a very hard. economic time and Israeli occupation, you know, that may just erupt into civil war, even if they're not necessarily intending it for to do that at that time. Just a mere fact that they're medley in Lebanon so heavily this could happen. And one more thing I would add is I think the U.S. has been giving Lebanon now a few hundred million dollars a year in military aid for the past several years. And depending on that, that could just be a straight boondoggle where, you know, Japanese officials are making a lot of money off of this and they're funneling the weapons somewhere else.

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Sign up for the feeds. and all those things on Spotify at YouTube and provoked. Dot show. Yeah, I suppose that's possible. I'm, you know, I am admittedly ignorant about the strength of the Lebanese army, but it just seems like if they could have extended their power into a real monopoly on force within Lebanese borders, they would have done that a long time ago. They would have asked Hezbollah, please, and Hezbo would have had no choice but to say yes

or start a civil war, right? So to me, it's almost just self-evident that they don't have the, ability to make that happen. But I guess we'll see how it goes. And I should learn more about that too. But now, as far as J.D. Vance and the talks, I mean, mostly the talks are to attempt to resolve the nuclear issue. Is there any reports of progress along those lines?

I guess I should say as a premise to this, I know you saw the hilarious clips of Trump, I believe from the G7 in France, where he's saying, hey, everybody's got to have missiles. We like missiles. Missiles? What? You want to tell them they're not a lot of missiles? And then he says the same thing about their nuclear program. He didn't say enrichment specifically. Hey, look, they got a civilian nuclear program. Everybody's got nuclear programs. And they want it for their electricity. What are we going to do? We're going to tell him you can't have a nuclear program. That doesn't seem fair. And which I just love that side of Trump, that he could just flip-flop around and all of a sudden be reasonable and undercut his own ridiculous excuse for war and all of that. But of course, that means you could flip-flop back again as well. Right. A couple of days ago, he said that the deal would include the denuclearization of Iran. And now that's vague enough where he could just mean the elimination of their enrichment program

or even a vague promise from Tehran to disagree never to make nuclear weapons and to have some sort of international inspections in place. Or he could actually be talking about getting rid of all of Iran's nuclear weapons. I think one of the reasons to maybe take that as a serious policy point is that J.D. Vain said it as well that the agreement would see Iran denuclearized. The latest report from Atseo said the thoughts are currently stalemated over the Strait of Hormuz issue where the U.S. is demanding that Iran again returned to be in an international waterway and I already laid out the Iranian position on that. And they say that the two sides are at an impasse there and Donald Trump instructed

Wyckhoff and Kushner to basically tell the Iranians that, look, if you want any kind of sanctions relief at all from the United States, you have to agree that the Strait of Hormuz is an international waterway and tell them to see the bigger picture that all the money you're going to get from the removal of sanctions will be worth it once the Strait of Hormuz is an international waterway again. I think Iran just doesn't trust Washington enough to agree to that, where they have some real concrete leverage right now with the Stratio Formos, and I don't think they're going to give that up. I think a better negotiating position for the Americans would try to be to get some kind of moratorium

from Iran an agreement not to impose tolls for a year or something like that or an agreement where they, you know, cab tolls at a pretty low level or even maybe better for Donald Trump get the Iranians to agree that any American flag ship doesn't have to pay a toll. And he could celebrate it as a win for the United States of America, right? That's kind of what I think would be a better trap to go down for the Americans, but they don't seem to be any more reasonable on that position. The only indication we have that there actually may be some progress there is reports mostly from Middle Eastern sources, not always just the Iranians,

but that Oman and the Gulf Arab states have accepted that they're going to have to pay a toll to the Iranians And just today, the Iranian foreign minister, Arachi, announced that Iran and Oman had agreed to a framework for an agreement on how this Strait of Hormuz will be governed. So maybe everything Rubio and Trump and Vance, even on this issue, are saying are bluster and they're really allowing the negotiations to take place behind the scenes. It's also possible that the Americans are going to blow up. And maybe literally any agreement, Donald Trump has threatened to bomb Oman if it goes along with a plan to place tolls in the Strait of Hormuz. All right. Now, well, and so I guess what you're saying, though, too, is as they're haggling over the straight, they're not even really working on the nuclear issue yet at all. No, it doesn't seem that those negates.

And the Iranians are saying that as well. That's not only coming from Atios, which would be American. and Israeli sources, but also Iranian officials are publicly stating that right now, the only thing Tehran is willing to negotiate on is implementing in an agreement on what the memorandum of understanding actually says, not anything towards the actual peace deal are beyond that. Yeah. All right.

So now, it's such a multi-front war here. It's hard to keep track. Tell me, what's the latest from the Houthis in Yemen? Yeah, well, there's a really interesting development there today, Scott, where the Sunnah, the Houthis are saying that one of their planes that was in Iran for the funeral for the assassinated Ayatollah when it was arriving at the Sanah airport, that it was harassed by a Saudi fighter jet, which was warded off by a Houthi anti-aircraft missile, and warned Saudis that they would go back. bad to war with Saudi Arabia if such an event, an incursion of their airspace happens again. As of recording this show, I haven't seen any response from Riyadh if this event is true at all. But I guess it would be odd for Ansarala to put out this statement and claim this if it was just completely an untrue event. Hey, L. Scott here for Mundo's artisan coffees.

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Strip in terms of, I know there's ongoing assassination strikes and including, you know, their bomb in the tents of women and children and all that as is Israelis want. But then also, I mean, there are ongoing questions about just the status of the ceasefire, the I know the steady encroachment of the Israelis, the whatever next stage of negotiations with Hamas, you know, the humanitarian aid and not just food and medicine, but also, you know, construction materials and whatever else. Like, what in the world is going on? Is it a whole, you know, since they turned the temperature down, it used to be 100 a day,

now it's 100 every couple of weeks or so, I guess they kill there. And so, and there's so much else going on that attention has turned away from Gaza. And so obviously it's not resolved and the people there are not safe. Yeah, I mean, a few points to make on Gaza. One is that I think the death toll sends the October border peace seeds fire agreement. And so that's, I guess, like eight months now when that was agreed to, a thousand Palestinians have died. So it's, and that's just from the violence of the war. Now, the reports on the humanitarian situation are awful.

These people have been living in Canvas tens for two and a half, three years now. So, you know, they're falling apart. When it rains, they're getting rained on. They can't keep the heat out. The dust is getting in. The really bad problem seems to be the lack of sanitation. and because Israel forced a lot of the Palestinians, hundreds of thousands, if not close to a million people,

are packed into the Mawesi area of Gaza, which there's no infrastructure there. There's like, you know, no toilets or anything for the waste for all these people to go. And so there was already water, clean water issues in Gaza, but that has only gotten worse. And also, I guess the rats are able to eat through all these canvas tents. And they're not living in how.

So you can't necessarily make sure there's no food out and things like that. And so the rodents are just absolutely spreading diseases. They're eating children in the middle of the night. Just absolute horrors that don't seem real. But you read report after report about these. On the military side, Israel seems to have continued its attacks as slow pace. Every Day Dave DeCamp at Anti-War.com writes up a story, two, three, four, seven Palestinians killed by Israel.

Sometimes they drop bombs on the remaining houses or on the ten cities. A lot of times, the snipers shooting people that are getting too close to the yellow line. The yellow line is what Israel uses as the demarcation line between its forces and the Palestinians in Gaza. Now, Scott, as you mentioned, that is encroaching. at the start of the Board of Peace Agreement, it was a 50-50 split essentially, I think 4852 between Gaza and Gaza the Palestinians and Israel. Now Israel controls well over 60 percent with Netanyahu saying that he ordered Israel to go all the way up to 70 percent of Gaza. So basically just strangling the remaining Palestinians. And I am concerned here, Scott,

that if maybe Netanyahu feels that Donald Trump is going to rein him in and force his hand on Lebanon, then will Iran sign a peace agreement with the United States and Israel as Israel is forced marching all the Palestinians out of Gaza? Because that's certainly the trend that Israel is going down, where they're just taking more and more and more territory forcing Palestinians into a smaller, smaller chunk. And with the million plus Palestinians there, of course, at some point, have more people than you have room for in the Israeli military is effectively, I guess, just marching them out into the Egyptian side and I are into the Mediterranean Sea. All right.

So, yeah, and here's your latest piece about that, again, at the set, the substack at at libertarian institute.org slash news and at libertarianinst.com. Israel dubs ethnic cleansing in Gaza, the free movement plan. Yeah, we're encouraging their voluntary immigration, Kyle. problem, man. Yeah, the Israeli government realized their rhetoric on Gaza was too harsh. And so the solution was to not make any headlines for a couple months about it, then roll out this new plan, which are calling the free movement plan. My guess is that it may involve offering Palestinians a very small amount of money to go live in the Congo or in Chad or in Somaliland or something

like that would be my guess. But they're basically claiming that, hey, we're doing the humanitarian thing here. We're allowing the Palestinians to leave. And they're rolling this out, so they're moving forward with it. Yeah, yeah, we're just helping them out. Gaza is such a wreck

nowadays that they need somewhere to go. It's voluntary immigration, you know? They just have no choice, that's all. Man, all right. Well, I haven't quite run out of Israel's wars yet. I saw their bomb in Syria again as well. But who in Syria were they bombing? Kyle. They're a good friend, Abu Muhammad Al-Jalani. Oh, I am not aware of the latest Israeli airstriads in

Syria and who they were bombing. I know they were pushing in and took a couple more neighborhoods south of Damascus recently, though. Okay. Well, so what's going on there? They already control that mountain Mount Hernon, which is sort of on the outskirts. right, so now they're taking more territory between the mountain and the city? Yeah, they've been moving towards Damascus, and I think they're really starting to focus on the Drews areas, claiming that they're protecting the Druze from Jolani's head shoppers. Oh, okay. Yeah, that makes sense.

I'm sorry, you know what, I should be looking at yesterday's anti-war.com. That's my problem here. I know there was one on here about Israel and Syria. Where did it go? would have been lower on the page. I don't know what the hell I did with it. Anyway, so that's not over yet. And are they still threatening Turkey?

The rhetoric between Netanyahu and Erdogan, Turkey, and Israel has been increasing since the start of the war with Iran, with Israel, I mean, over the past year, I've said that Turkey, once Iran's dealt with Turkey's nets, we're going to have to deal with Turkey. Turkey is the emerging or rising threat. I'm not sure. I've heard this from these two leaders for a decade or so now. So I'm always skeptical that this is that Turkey is a NATO member state. So my instinct is that Israel would never push it that

far. If they get to the point where they've taken Damascus, then just let Turkey have Aleppo and leave it there. And that seems to be the more, like that that's where these two leaders would, these two countries would actually come into conflict. Right. So I just don't see it. Yeah, fighting over the former Syria and where the new border is going to be. And it could come to that at some point. But yeah, you're right.

Just as soon, just as easily could compromise over it. Because the al-Qaeda forces are going to find that they're the weakest group in the bunch, despite all Trump's hype about how they're strong enough to go and take Israel's place fighting Hezbollah in Lebanon, which is pretty funny. Like we always say, well, why does Obama, for example, support al-Qaeda in Syria? Because Israel hates Hezbollah more. And then, like, here's Donald Trump going, we ought to get al-Qaeda in Syria to go fight Hezbollah and Lebanon for us. Boy, okay.

See, I told you all that was why. Basically the deal. Although before it was just trying to keep Hezbollah out of Syria. Well, the best part about that statement from Donald Trump is, where he says that we're going to get al-Qaeda to fight Hezbollah because they will do it more morally than the Israelis will. Right. The Israelis, they'll blow up the whole apartment building. The al-Qaeda headchoppers will go through and they'll kill everyone.

At least they leave the infrastructure in place, I guess, as the president's logic there. He's more insulted when Israel blows up the building than actually kills the people inside of it. Yeah, exactly. He's a building guy. What are you going to do, you know? He's a real estate developer. Oh, man, what a mess. All right, well, listen, so I'm going to go because it's so hot in here.

I'm going to die. And it's been half an hour, and it's Friday, and it's a holiday weekend. So I'm going to let you go. I thank you so much for taking on a tour all around the world of Israel's wars here, which is a lot. And I hope we can catch up soon. Yeah. And Scott, can I mention the Libertarian Institute newsletter, the email that I send out. I do a debrief on Sundays that I put out

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