Scott Horton Show - Just the Interviews - 8/1/24 Kyle Anzalone on Israel’s Assassinations, Kamala Harris and America Bombing Iraq

Episode Date: August 6, 2024

Kyle Anzalone was back on Antiwra Radio to review all the latest news coming out of Gaza. He and Scott discuss Israel’s recent high-profile assassinations, the ICJ’s ruling against Israel, whether Kamala Harris is any better than Biden on this issue, the US's latest bombing in Iraq and more. Discussed on the show: “Israeli Killing of Hamas Political Chief Expected To Derail Ceasefire Talks” (Antiwar.com) “Hezbollah Confirms Its Commander Killed in Israeli Airstrike on Beirut” (Antiwar.com) “Palestinians Return to Rubble in Khan Younis After Israeli Withdrawal” (Antiwar.com) “Israeli Lawmaker Says Raping Palestinian Prisoners Is ‘Legitimate’” (Antiwar.com) “US Launches Airstrikes in Iraq, Four Members of the PMF Reported Killed” (Antiwar.com) Kyle Anzalone is news editor of the Libertarian Institute, opinion editor of Antiwar.com and co-host of Conflicts of Interest with Will Porter and Connor Freeman. Follow him on Twitter @KyleAnzalone_ This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: Roberts and Robers Brokerage Incorporated; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; Libertas Bella; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott. Get Scott’s interviews before anyone else! Subscribe to the Substack. Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjY Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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This is Anti-War Radio. all right y'all welcome the show it is anti-war radio i'm your host scott horton i'm editorial director of anti-war dot com and author of the book enough already time to end the war on terrorism you can find my full interview archive more than six thousand of them now going back to 2003 at Scott Horton.org and at YouTube.com slash Scott Horton's show and all the other video sites and podcatchers and things like that. And of course, I'm here from 2.30 to 3 every Thursday on KPFK, 90.7 FM in LA. Our guest today is Kyle Anselone. He is news editor at the Institute and Opinion Editor at Anti-War.com. Welcome back to the show. Kyle. How you doing?

Doing great, Scott. Thanks for having me. I really appreciate you joining us on the show here. So, as always, I'm writing a book about the new Cold War with Russia, so I got to make sure and cover Israel Palestine on my radio show all the time because it's so important and this horrific war is still going on, even though it has taken a back seat in the news cycle. We're going to do our part to keep it going here. And actually, I guess there is big news that everyone's paying attention to,

the assassination by Israel of the leader of the political branch of Hamas in Tehran, huh? Right. And so this was actually the third in a series of assassinations that Israel conducted over the course of a few hours. They killed a top Hezbollah commander in Beirut. They killed a top IRGC commander that's an Iranian military commander who is in Syria. And then they also then killed Ismail Hanyei, who was the political chief of Hamas in Tehran. It's all the details of the assassination are unclear. It seems that there was some kind of missile or long-range drone used. Israel has not officially taken responsibility for it, but everybody seems to blame Israel,

and Israel isn't issuing a denial, so it does seem that it was Israel behind this. The Iranians are saying not only was Israel responsible, but also the U.S. was because they would have had to either have knowledge of this or actually have aided the attack because it was a long-range missile strike from Israel into Iran. That seems to be the premise the Iranians are working under at this point. All right, Kyle, well, by the way, you know, the New York Times is saying today that the bomb was smuggled into the Tehran guesthouse months ago and then was detonated to kill Hanya. So I don't know if that's really true or not, but that's what Ronan Bergman is reporting in the New times.

I mean, that seems suspicious because the Hamas official was in Tehran for the inauguration of the new president. And I think Rouhani only died just over a month and a half ago now. So how they would have known to have a bomb there for the visit from this Hamas official seems a little bit questionable. But, you know, I guess I could look at more details later. It's anti-war radio. I'm talking with Kyle Anzalone from anti-war.com.

And now, so I just finished interviewing Jeremy R. Hammond about the ICJ ruling, and so people will be able to find that at Scott Horton.org. But can you give us a quick rundown there? Yeah. So the ICJ, which is the UN court, it's the world court. So any country that is a party to the UN, which the U.S. and Israel both are, would be a member to this court. And they have ruled that, you know, the settlement, expansion, what Israel is doing in Palestine, the force. displacement are all a part of an ongoing occupation, and that is illegal. You know, there's multiple different kind of court things working through court here, Scott. Of course, Netanyahu and the defense minister, Youov Galant, are facing a possible indictment from the international criminal court, which the U.S. and Israel aren't actually a party too, but they're brought up on charges of war crimes, genocide, and extermination related to Gaza. And additionally, the ICJ is working on a separate case that was brought by South Africa

and has been joined by several other countries now accusing Israel of genocide in Gaza. So there's a lot of different indictments in World Court working against Israel at this point. Yeah. And, you know, I can see how it serves the narrative from the Israeli point of view that see the whole world is against us. But it's got to raise the question, why? Really, they just hate you for no reason. And it's all based on a hate. These judges, put on their robes and get up there and issue these rulings saying that, well, the law says you can't occupy other people's land and steal their territory and colonize it and all these things. Oh, no, they hate us, they hate us. Really? It's so obvious. The whole world agrees about this because

what's happening is crazy. It's not just the occupation, but the absolute ruthless, just merciless brutality. The Israelis meet out against the Palestinians daily. It's just out of this world. And, you know, I know Israelis are very propagandized about this, too. Everything they see is cleared by military sensors, but they got the Internet, too, right? I mean, it's not like they don't know what's going on on the other side of those walls. Right. And, Scott, you probably make a good point there about from Israel, from the perspective of Israelis,

this probably does add to the government propaganda narrative that Israel is uniquely targeted. Jews are uniquely targeted by the world, and therefore you have to have the state of Israel to protect you or see all these international institutions will just target you. But I think this is important more for the people of the United States and even the rest of the world, but particularly the United States, because we are the main backer of Israel. And without Washington's assistance, Tel Aviv would not be able to do what they're doing, particularly in Gaza, but even the settlement and the eventual annexation of the West Bank. that wouldn't happen without Washington's authorization. And so when you have the International, the World Court, particularly under the Biden administration, that has been saying that what we need to do is uphold international law and these values of democracy and we have to stand against thuds and dictators and things like that, when you have Netanyahu possibly

facing an indictment at the ICC and the ICJ ruling against Israel. And by the way, these aren't, you know, just some Arab prosecutors going against Israel because they're Muslims and they hate the Jews. You know, the ICJ rulings were 15 to 1, meaning that, you know, 15 judges, justices from around the world said that, yes, Israel is guilty and is just the one representative of Israel, or I think a Ugandan judge that dissented from these rulings. And so for the most part, there is a lot of consensus here that what Israel is doing in Gaza and to the Palestinian people in general is just completely unacceptable. And I think, you know, in the U.S. in particular, if somebody is going to say, oh, you're an

anti-Semite for saying that Israel's commanding a genocide in Gaza and you say, well, the World Court believes sides with me and says the same thing, then it makes the anti-Semitic a lot less powerful. And look, I mean, all anybody has to do is see the videos coming in. And I know that they've killed a lot of journalists and made that more and more difficult, but the footage doesn't lie. Even back if you go back to, I don't know, the 2008 war, I guess, John Stewart on The Daily Show had a bit where he's showing the reporter reporting from the war. It's a war. And he's reporting from Tel Aviv and he's wearing a pink polo shirt.

And he's like standing with some palm trees. It's like, yeah, so yeah, it's a terrible war going on, this and that. they show the Palestinian reporter and he's wearing a bulletproof vest and a helmet and there's literally like no fooling explosions. People are being killed like nearby him and he's clearly terrified out of his mind. And it's like, uh, something's going on different from the way they explain it. You know what I mean? The body language here is telling me a different story than the way the anchor sets up what's going on here. How is this a war? You know, it's not a war.

It's a canned hunt. Well, and just on the point you're making before, Scott, the images and the disparities in 2008, I was only 18 at the time by distinctly remember looking at the images from the war and seeing in Gaza, entire buildings getting flattened these massive explosions and bombs. And then if you look at the Hamas rockets that were landing in Israel, which were told are aimed at wiping out the Jewish people entirely, well, these were essentially things that people were building for science fair experiments in high school. They were no more than a foot or too long.

I mean, yes, they were made of metal, but they didn't have very large explosives on them. I remember at the time, I think there was a Palestinian who was explaining that unless the Hamas rocket actually hits somebody in the head, it's not a lethal strike. You know, this isn't what Hamas was doing. They don't have these major rockets. That's why the reporters are standing in Tel Aviv in polo shirts, where in Gaza, you know, and full bulletproof cablar vests and war helmets and everything like that on because it's a real war in Gaza.

And that real war in Gaza is still going on. Just this past week, Scott, the IDF withdrew from Khan Yunus, which is one of the major cities in southern Gaza. It's the third time that they've invaded the city. Of course, they bombed it throughout the past 10 months anyway, but actually putting soldiers on the ground, going in, rolling in with taints and just destroying everything. It's the third time that's happened. And the Civil Defense Forces report after the Israelis left, they went in and just found bodies everywhere, at least 300 of them total.

And a lot of the bodies were pulled out of graveyards and things like that. And this is really important, Scott. And it's not getting nearly enough attention, particularly in American media. And it really should be. If we look at the history of the U.S., of course, destroying and eliminating, like, Native American Indian graveyards and different mounds and things like that that that they built was, really important to the genocide and taking of this land from the American Indians. And we're seeing the Israelis do the same thing in Gaza, where they're destroying all the cemeteries and getting rid of all the cultural sites and any, all of the Palestinian cultural

roots of the land are literally being uprooted by the Israelis here because they want to take this land and eliminate the Palestinians from it entirely. You know, I wonder if the coup against Biden wasn't because he's old and demented and was going to lose. because the Israelis thought that Kamala Harris would be easier for Trump to beat? Well, I'm looking at the way it's going now. I'm not so sure that's how the dynamics are going to play out. I think Kamala Harris may actually present tougher challenge to Trump than Biden did

just because at this point, she is somewhat more aware of what's going on. Yeah. Well, we'll see. Anyway, I don't want to get too derailed onto that. But I just have a hard time looking at Trump as having any. other policy position at all other than serving Israel's interests. Otherwise, what's he there for? He says he disagrees with them about this or that, but he doesn't really do anything

different than the Obama-Biden policy other than serving Israel more and worse. It seems like that's the whole point of it. His son-in-law is already talking about, yeah, after we kick out all the Palestinians, we're going to build condos in Gaza. And that's Jared Kushner. He's not, he's just bluffing. I mean, he's the guy who did the Abraham Accords, you know? Right.

Well, and this is one of the reasons I would disagree with you why Israel would want Biden still there because the debate between Trump and Biden and you throw an RFK Jr. as well is who supports Israel more? Who is the biggest Zionist? Who's going to come out and say Israel can annex the West Bank. They could annexed Gaza. That's really the debate between when you got Trump and Biden on the stage. Kamala Harris at times has at least kind of tried to sound more empathetic towards the Palestinians. Apparently, her remarks after her meeting with Netanyahu last week saying that she would like to see a permanent ceasefire. Now, she also said, of course, all the other things every American politician says, Israel has a right to defend itself.

Israel is a crucial national security interest for the United States. The U.S. needs to give Israel all the weapons and needs to defend itself. But she also said that she would like to see a ceasefire about. eventually happened in the conflict. And this apparently art to Net and Yahoo enough that he came out and gave a statement. And so I think the dynamics of the debate actually changed a little bit with Harris, where it's not who supports Israel more. She's actually probably going to let Trump take that and try to win some Muslim voters,

particularly in Michigan, and try not to sound quite as hawkish or try to outhawk Trump at every turn when it comes to Israel as Biden did. Yeah, that's true. I mean, I think she's easy to underestimate because she's obviously about as bright as Trump, but essentially all the reasons that Democrats voters had to despise Biden, they can now ignore and throw over, right? He's too all these demented. He's genocide Joe. But nobody really thinks that she's Dick Cheney running things. You know what I mean?

And that this is all her responsibility. She's just the vice president on this issue. And so it will evade any responsibility. for that. And the same for, you know, the inflation crisis and everything else. Democrat voters don't blame her for the immigration thing. So that won't really be a problem as far as people who would vote for her anyway, even though it's an issue overall in the country. And so I think that she has a lot of advantages compared to Biden if she doesn't completely blow it. But obviously it's Trump's to lose since he's the most famous man in the world. But he could very well.

well, blow it, too, as he did last time. So, but you're right about the contest, about who's worse. I think Trump would win it. I mean, I think right now Biden, as demented as he is, would say, no, you can't just cleanse the West Bank. I think that Trump might go for it. I think if Netanyahu says to him, look, man, I'll give you $6. He'll just be like, all right, go ahead.

I don't care. You know what I mean? And then if he gives the green light, I don't know what else could stop it at that point. And, you know, I don't know. I shouldn't keep predicting that. I don't really think that's probably what'll happen, but I think it might, you know? Right. And, you know, I'm very concerned about it.

The only, I guess, difference I see if Trump Tate's office is that liberal Americans may stand up against what is what Israel is doing. In a way, they just simply won't if Kamala Harris or Joe Biden is president. They'll just let Israel do what they want. And the Republicans don't care about a Palestinian, right? None of them are going to come out, go out in the streets, or even so much as protestant in Yahoo when he comes to the United States and gets 48 or 58 standing ovations in 56 minutes. None of them are going to be upset about that. They're just going to thump their chest and say, this is what American first is. And with the Democrats, I think they're going to basically oppose anything that Trump does, especially as vigorously as he would back what's happening in Gaza.

and you are going to have a lot of Democratic Muslims who try to rally their peers to say, hey, what's going on here is really wrong. So I think we could see a major protest movement against, say, the annexation of the West Bank if Trump were president. And we never would if it was Harris or Biden. Yeah. And, you know, going back to 2020, Biden, I confused them. Netanyahu tried to push his luck and go ahead and officially annexed the West Bank.

and Trump and his people told them to back off on that. And so it goes to show that there's a little sensitivity there. But I don't know. I think a protest movement on the left might just solidify Trump support for Israel even more. And just say, yeah, well, if aOCs against it, then this is what I'm for and politically calculate that he's got nothing to lose, which, as he said, Republicans by and large don't care about this issue or certainly not. about the Palestinians. They might care about the issue on the wrong side of it. For the most part, I don't want to overstate that, because there are conservatives who are great on this. But overall in the political conversation in D.C., not so powerful, you know, unfortunately.

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So over the past week, what happened was there was an inmate at, this was a Palestinian inmate, from Gaza, who was at an Israeli detention facility. And it has been widely reported, particularly over the past six months, as, you know, Palestinians who were put in these facilities have them been released, that there was major torture going on in these facilities, you know, beatings to the point where people were dying, people were being kept in handcuffed, blindfolded, wearing diapers all day long. This was leading to serious infections that if not amputations would actually caused sepsis and death, but the worst of those accusations was there was widespread rape going on in these facilities. And it does appear that that has been confirmed. There was

one inmate who was violated so substantially he was not able to walk anymore. And this led Israeli military police to go and arrest the Israeli soldiers who perpetrated that crime. And as they tried to arrest those soldiers, and they actually did, they arrested, I believe, 10, Now two of them are out, but the other eight are still behind bars. And this led to a riot, including Israeli members of the Knesset, going and trying to break into the facility to protest the arrest of these soldiers. That's completely crazy. And then I read the quote of the member of the Knesset saying, yeah, hey, if he's a member of, like, I guess he was asked directly or someone asked rhetorically, Jesus, is this what we're doing now?

isn't that illegal? And he said, hey, if the guys are Hamas terrorists, then anything should be allowed against him. And so just outright justified it. Right. Yeah. No, you're right. This was actually a member of the Lakud party as well, which is the same party as Benjamin Nand Yahoo, the Israeli prime minister. And it's been quite disappointing on the American side, Scott. So the State Department has been asked about these accusations. And they will not call this of war crime. They specifically will not. They say they believe it's a violation of Israeli law, but the Israelis are coming out and saying that they don't think it's a violation of their law because this man wasn't Jewish because he's a Palestinian. It's not a crime to

perpetrate this against him. And so they're allowed to do it. And they're actually discussing bills within the Knesset to make this officially legal. And there should be no surprise to this whatsoever. Itmar Ben-Gavir, who is often kind of portrayed in American media as almost fringing in the Israeli government. He's not. He's central to the government. He's the national security minister. He controls the police, the border guards and the prisons within Gaza. And he has been saying all along that it has, and this goes back before October 7th, Scott. He took over the position in late 2022. So he was in this role of full 10 months before October 7th even happened. But he has talked about cutting the Palestinian food rations in prison to an absolute minimum, making their lives as cruel as possible.

So we've had reports of during the winter they come in and take all the coverings off the windows so it's as cold as possible. They pull them back up in summer, so it's as hot as possible. The shower times are kept to a minimum. You're not given a timer. And if you shower for too long, the soldiers will ruthlessly beat you, including some people have even died from these beatings. And Ben Gavir has said that he wants to make these conditions worse from this perspective and has even floated the idea of just executing, carrying out summary execution of all these Palestinians to make room for more Palestinians to be in the prisons. That's just incredible. And these aren't just some cooks in the Knessa.

As you're saying, this is the interior minister, basically. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And here's the quote. wrong before. It's very close. Everything is legitimate to do. Asked if it was okay to rape this prisoner with an object. Yes, if he is a Hamas militant, everything is legitimate to do. Everything

Milwidski said. And maybe he's not a minister, but still, that is on the floor of their parliament. It's just incredible that America has anything to do with this country or back in them. It's completely crazy. This is the worst kind of things that you read going on in the Libyan prisons after the fall of Gaddafi, where they were, you know, just conducting these kind of mass rapes and sexual assaults of all these different prisoners. They had people who are migrants just trying to transfer Libya versus, you know, the people who are actually there in fighters and things like that. But, you know, we're talking about like mass rapes with metal objects and stuff are just the cruelest things you could do to people. And it's being done

in Israel by the country that we regularly say is one of the most moral in the world and shares all of our values. And that's why we have to support them. I guess for the last topic, let's talk about the strikes in Iraq. America's been bombing Iraq for 33 years. And it's not as constant as it used to be. But that's a long time to be bomb in a country. So what's going on there? And what does it have to do with this being all Israel's fault, of course? Yeah. And that's my entire lifetime, Scott. So if I were born in Iraq, I mean, I feel like there's almost no way as a young male who has grown up through all these wars that I would still be alive. But if I were, you know, America would have bombed my country essentially every single year of my lifetime. I mean, that's just an incredible stat.

And of course, the situation Iraq hasn't gotten any better. And so you have to wonder, what does what do the Americans think they're accomplishing? Now, this latest strike was against the popular mobilization forces or the PMFs, and these are the Shia militias that were formed largely by the Iranians, the Iranian Quds Force, General Soleimani put a lot of this together, and it was used to fight the Islamic State. And so for a time, these were effectively America's most effective allies in Iraq at fighting the Islamic State and pushing them out of all these cities, including Mosul and back across the border into Syria. But now they want the Americans out of their countries. And about a week ago, there was a couple strides on U.S. bases, rocket strikes on U.S. bases in Iraq and Syria. No American soldiers were hurt. No American soldiers were injured.

But, of course, America responds to this by carrying out an airstrike in Iraq that killed an estimated four members of the PMFs. And, of course, they're considered a member of the Iraqi security forces. So this would be like, I don't know, killing a member of a national guard in the U.S. or something like that. And the Iraqis are very upset about this. And it's renewing the, you know, massive calls, particularly from the PMF and other militias, they have the Americans get the hell out of their country once and for all. So, and they're striking Yemen. Of course, Israel hit Yemen in response to that drone attack. We've got continual, I don't know, escalations. Do we ever find out who for sure was behind that rocket strike in Golan that led to an escalation there against

Hezbollah and Lebanon? No, there's a lot of speculation around this. Of course, the Israelis say it was a Hezbollah directed rocket attack on a child soccer game that killed 12 members of the Druze community in the Golan Heights. And this is important because the Druze of the Golan Heights believe they are Syrian citizens. the goal on heist is, of course, Israeli occupied territory from Syria. So these aren't even people who identify as Israelis. One might imagine that Hezbollah would see what Israel has done in Gaza, including bombing children playing soccer and maybe do that in retaliation. I'm not saying

that Hezbollah is a moral army and they would never kill children. But this really, you know, this wouldn't be seen by the Israeli people as targeting the Israelis. It was targeting people who recognize themselves as Syrians. So it seems unlikely it was a direct Hezbollah attack. So the speculation, either it was an Iron Dome misfire or maybe the Iron Dome hit a Hezbollah rocket and it caused it to like change directions or something and end up hitting this soccer field. Either way, the Israelis are just basically selling it to the Americans as this was a direct attack on Israeli children by Hezbollah intentionally. Yeah. Well, you know, it's funny, man. I mean, when that news came out. It's just horrible. Take all these things on their face. Imagine being the parent of any

one of these children, you know, obliterated and it's horrific fascist. Just at the same time, it's like, oh, now it's wrong to bomb a soccer game? Israeli's bomb a soccer game three weeks ago. And the same day that that came out, there's all different headlines about the Israelis doing airstrikes on civilians, blowing people the pieces, just absolutely relentlessly for almost a year straight now. And so they themselves are essentially saying how wrong they are by

crying such crocodile tears about these poor drus that were killed which, as you say, if it was by Hezbollah, it must have been accidentally anyway. It all just goes to show what a disgrace Netanyahu in his regime is. You know, it gets

even worse, Scott, because after the strikes happened, of course, you know, there's going to be a funeral for the children. And the community asked the Israelis not to politicize the event, but Israeli ministers, including Betzel Smaltrich, still attended the funeral and made a whole political show out of it. And so not only are these children dead, but now you've disrespected the families and not allowed them to mourn in the way they choose. Yeah. Well, and speaking of Trump's horrific Zionism and what it pertains, he already recognized the Israeli occupation, seizure, annexation of the gold. Golan Heights, which is occupied territory, which they illegally stole in 1981, or well, back in 67, but I guess officially annexed in 81.

And now Trump has officially recognized that and Golan as Israeli territory, which is contrary to all the international law and everybody else's understanding of the situation, including, as you said, the people of the Golan Heights who've been kidnapped by the Israelis in this way. I guess it's just a matter of time before they're cleansed and all their farmlands stolen too. And importantly, trade to Parsi point this out on Twitter. And, of course, this obviously isn't the main attention of the whole killing of these 12 children. It's on the death of them. But if you look at the Biden administration's statements in response, they've referred to the Golan Heights as Israeli territory. So they seem to have effectively adopted the Trump administration policy of recognizing Israeli's sovereignty over the Golan Heights.

Anthony Blinken's State Department did that. Amazing. I wonder if Joe Biden was conscious for that. I'm sure he was. Yeah. Well, apparently, Scott, one of the few things that Joe Biden is still actively involved in is foreign policy. You know, this shouldn't be surprised.

Even if he is senile, the one thing that Joe Biden has been consistent about in his about five decades, either in Capitol Hill or the White House, is that he loves Israel and that he is a massive Zionist. And he believes that if Israel didn't have exist, the United States would have to create Israel for the United States' own benefit. Yeah. He never explains. Right. Like, well, they helped us back al-Qaeda in Syria, I guess.

He called that assistance, even though Obama was doing that for them in the first place. Jeez, that kind of cancels out. What else you got? Nothing. All right. Well, we're over time and got to go. But really appreciate your time on the show, as always, Kyle. Good stuff.

Thank you, Scott. All right, you guys, that's Anti-War Radio for today. I'm Scott Horton. I'm here every Thursday from 2.30 to 3 on KPFK, 90.7 FM in L.A. See you next week.