Scott Horton Show - Just the Interviews - 9/18/26 Kyle Anzalone on the Houthi Escalation

Episode Date: September 20, 2026

Scott interviews Kyle Anzalone about the latest news in foreign policy. They discuss the escalation between the Houthis and Saudis, the differences between this round of fighting in Yemen and the last, how the Iran war is impacting domestic politics in the US and more. Discussed on the show: “More U.S. troops have died amid Iran war than Pentagon has disclosed publicly” (The Washington Post) “Destruction of Saudi Pipelines Bring Us From Crisis to Catastrophe” (The Libertarian Institute) “Defense Minister Says Pakistan Will ‘Fulfill Our Duty’ to Saudi Arabia Amid Attacks from Ansar Allah” (Antiwar.com) “UN Report: Reasonable Grounds to Believe US Committed War Crimes in Iran” (The Libertarian Institute) “House Votes to End Iran War for Third Time” (The Libertarian Institute) Kyle Anzalone is news editor of the Libertarian Institute, opinion editor of Antiwar.com, co-host of Conflicts of Interest and host of The Kyle Anzalone Show. Follow him on Twitter @KyleAnzalone_  Sign up for the Scott Horton Academy of Foreign Policy and Freedom at scotthortonacademy.com For more on Scott's work: Check out The Libertarian Institute: https://www.libertarianinstitute.org Check out Scott's other show, Provoked, with Darryl Cooper https://youtube.com/@Provoked_Show Read Scott's books: Provoked: How Washington Started the New Cold War with Russia and the Catastrophe in Ukraine https://amzn.to/43D82oY (The audiobook of Provoked is being published in sections at https://scotthortonshow.com) Enough Already: Time to End the War on Terrorism: https://amzn.to/4eMQblu Fool’s Errand: Time to End the War in Afghanistan https://amzn.to/4a5fKvx Follow Scott on X @scotthortonshow And check out Scott’s full interview archives: https://scotthorton.org/all-interviews This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: Tax Attorney Matt Sercely https://agoristtaxadvice.com; Moon Does Artisan Coffee https://scotthorton.org/coffee; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom https://www.libertyclassroom.com/dap/a/?a=1616 and Dissident Media https://dissidentmedia.com; and Crowdhealth https://www.joincrowdhealth.com/ (use promocode Horton) You can also support Scott’s work by making a one-time or recurring donation at https://scotthorton.org/donate/ or https://patreon.com/scotthortonshow Audio cleaned up with the Podsworth app: https://podsworth.com Use code HORTON50 for 50% off your first order at Podsworth.com to clean up your voice recordings, sound like a pro, and also support the Scott Horton Show! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Doing well, Scott. Thanks for having me back on. Hell yeah, man. Happy to have you here. And, man, there's so much bad news to cover. here's the front page of anti-war.com today. UN, U.S. likely committed war crimes in Iran. Well, we all know that from Nuremberg, that the Supreme War Crime is the crime of aggression, starting a war against a country that was not attacking you.

But then, you know, that's obvious. And I saw where the administration said that that was completely preposterous. You have no idea what you're talking about. And then, as you cover here, too, On the same day, Trump said, well, he was considering and contemplating the killing of every last Iranian, basically, whether he's going to annihilate their civilization or not. Although, I guess I'm not sure of the context of how seriously to take that compared to his previous threats to kill everybody in Iran. On a scale of 1 to 10, what level of bluff was that, you think?

I think it has to be very high. The situation for the United States in the Middle East right now is not good at all. The U.S. has more on their hands to deal with than they possibly can. So going further up the escalation ladder with Iran, you have to question the U.S. has the military resources to do it. I mean, right now, Saudi Arabia asks the United States for help against Ansar ala in Yemen. And the United States basically says there's nothing we could do. and Trump chose to keep the ceasefire that the U.S. has with Ansarala intact

and isn't authorizing direct U.S. strides on Yemen for the Saudis. And so the Saudis are going to the Chinese and asking them to tell the Iranians to tell Ansarala to knock it off. I mean, this is, you know, the situation, they're going to the Egyptians, asking for missile defenses. So it's the U.S. just, I don't think, has a military capacity to escalate this. or else Trump will be helping Saudi Arabia and Yemen. So it almost has to be a bluff. Yeah. Well, thank goodness for that.

I mean, there are worst case scenarios here that politically are impossible you would like to think, but that physically, you know, are theoretically possible that he could send in fleets of heavy bombers on, you know, knowing that he's going to lose some, but send, you know, launch, you know, B-52s and B-1s and B-2s, from wherever he can and carpet bomb their cities. You know, he knows they have some anti-aircraft,

but then again, the more they use them, the more they open themselves up to getting taken out to. And then so if he's willing to have a real war, then he could really escalate, never even mind atomic weapons, but even just with conventional bombs, he really could probably escalate, but only if he's willing to really risk

huge numbers of aircraft in their crews. in order to get it done. So far, that seems to have been a political limit on how far he's willing to go. And for that matter, you know, I don't know if the Air Force, if he just tells them, all right, carpet bomb Iran.

I don't know if they're going to do that. They might just say, actually, we don't want to go to prison and we're not going to do that. You know what I mean? There's collateral damage, and then there's war in the Israeli style. And I don't think that the American Air Force

wants to do that right now. You know what I mean? It's just whether they would resist his commands or not, I don't know, but maybe. So I agree with you that he's just talking shit. He didn't know what to do, though. And so, but that's the problem, right? It's a rock and a hard place, but he has a chisel.

So it's just whichever he thinks is softer. You know what I mean? Or whichever he thinks he'll break apart first. And, you know, there's nowhere to, no way out but through, you know, that kind of thinking. You know what I mean? So, and as he's expressed before him, right, that like, I forgot the exact quote, but something very close to like, but I hit them really hard.

They must be ready to surrender by now, you're soon or something. You know what I mean? Like he's just, he imagines that they're going on. But they keep not giving up. So I don't know, man. It's a real mess. Right. Absolutely.

I should have formed that in the phrase of a question. How about, well, as you already, you know, mentioned, we're seeing the limits of it right now in Saudi Arabia. when they're saying, listen, we need your help to prevent the Uthis from lighting up all of our stuff. And he's saying no. I don't know if he told them tough. You shouldn't have bombed their airport. But they did pick this fight.

But he is telling them tough. We're not coming for you. And did I read you right that MBS called him twice in one day to beg and was told no? Yeah, yeah. MBS called Donald Trump apparently talked to the president, I guess, twice in one day. And was then Donald Trump sent some rights. representatives, they didn't say who, I think it was a U.S. ambassador in the region, to actually meet with Ansarala, who the Trump administration in March of 2025 actually labeled a foreign terrorist

organization. And they basically, Ansarala said like, hey, if you start bombing us, the ceasefire that we agreed to in May of 2025, which was U.S. won't attack Yemen and Ansarala won't attack U.S. ships, either warships or commercial vessels in the region. And that has held up for, you know, this even throughout the first six months of the Iran war, Ansarab largely stayed on the sidelines of that conflict for everybody in the Western media who lies to just label them as Houthi rebels, who are proxies of Iran. They, you know, it wasn't Hezbollah, where after the Supreme Leader was assassinated, they went back to war with Israel.

And, you know, it inflicted a heavy toll on Lebanon to do so. But, you know, they really just reacted in line with their allies in Iran. And Ansarala did not do that. And maybe it was because they had reached that ceasefire with the United States of America. But then in July, Saudi Arabia went and I think one time actually bombed the Sana'a airport and the second time forces loyal to them, shelled it or launched some kind of drone attack against it. And Ansarala said, that's it. We're going back to war with Saudi Arabia.

and went on this massive offensive. And Scott, I know you've covered, and this is where I learned so much about Yemen, you know, listening to you interview Nassar, R, B, and others, about the situation in Yemen. For a long time, there really wasn't very much territory changing hands. I think it took Ansarala years and years and years to take Hadeda from the Saudi Bad government there and forget, you know,

anytime they try to cross the open desert areas, they were bombed and their advances were stopped. And here they took the entire Yemeni coastline, not all the way down to Aden, but they're getting kind of close. And also they were able to take islands out in the Red Sea. Saudi Arabia had bombed any ship, any vessel, leaving Yemen for years.

And now they were just able to conduct this massive advance. It was really head scratching that it was somehow able to happen. You would think with the air superiority that the Saudis have, you know, at least they have a band's fighter jets, F-15s, and F-16s, that they would be able to stop them from crossing open ground, but they were not. And the bigger consequence, of course, is how this kind of factors in to the war against Iran with the U.S. and Saudi Arabia, all the Persian Gulf countries really relying on Saudi's East-West pipeline to get all their oil to the Red Sea port.

And Ansarala has interfered with that. Now, there were also drones fired from Iraq. And I don't think the militia that fire them has been named yet. But those drones from Iraq were the ones that actually damaged the Saudi East-West pipeline. So this has caused just a major catastrophe. Now, the only way that Persian Gulf oil was gained out was through Saudi Arabia. And because Saudi Arabia went and started a war with Ansarrala, when they seemed happy to sit on the sidelines of the conflict in the,

the Middle East. Now that route is not out. Man, and this is the same crown prince is the same defense minister who started the war that didn't work last time, who was forced to capitulate and sign the peace deal with their houthis because they kept lighten up his oil facilities back before. Somehow he thought he gained a new advantage. Did he have a promise from anyone in the administration? Is there any reporting that anyone encouraged him to do this? Because otherwise, what a gamble that like, well, if I just get into this thing that I clearly can't win, that'll guilt trip Donald Trump and to send the Marines to Sanaah or what, you know?

I really don't know. I wonder, to some extent, it might have been a miscalculation on Saudis part where, you know, they had gotten away from, and they still maintain a blockade of Yemen. And so, you know, it's not as if there hasn't been any kind of Saudi aggression against on Sorala over the past three years, our four years now, since that ceasefire was signed in 2022. But maybe they really thought, ah, we bombed the airport once. Our forces conduct the little attack. We interfere with some flights from Sinai to Tehran that were, I believe, escorting kind of dynitaries to the Supreme Leader's funeral. That maybe they just didn't

calculate that. It would, Anserrallah would say, okay, gloves are off. And maybe, too, there was some thinking in Sana'a that we're going to have the greatest advantage that we're going to have with the Persian Gulf shut down with the straightforward moves effectively closed. Suddenly the, what, Bab al-Mandab straight there, that's the southern gate of the Red Sea, becomes a hell of a lot more strategically important. Saudi Arabia's Red Sea ports that are easily in range of Yemeni missiles and drones, easily knocked out now. Maybe they, you know, overreacted to this because,

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it seems like even for argument's sake, right? Like if you assume, like as the war party would do, that the Houthis really are, just the cat's paws of Iran, well then still they were holding them in reserve and had not deployed them so far in this war in any real way until Saudi did this, attack them, as you say, attacked them twice and got them to kick this thing off.

And so even if you'd take for granted the war party's analysis of who's who and how strong their loyalties are and all of that, you'd have to admit still that it was happy year into the war before this happened. and it wasn't until, as you said, the Saudis bombed the airport because some dignitaries were returning from the Ayatollah's funeral. And so they were still able to land. They just had to land somewhere else.

What an idiot way to start a war, right? Like, that was a huge error on Saudi's part. Yeah, and really just another massive unforced error on the Washington side of this war. I mean, starting it in the first place, but just the way that Donald Trump has handled this war the entire time, you would certainly think that there would have been strategists who would have told the president that one of the most important things to do is to make sure that Saudi Arabia only has to worry about the East, right, that they could position all their missile defense forces and things like that to defend their Persian Gulf oil assets,

Riyadh and things like that. And that means not escalating the conflict against Ansarala. You know, what the U.S. should have been doing is relaying messages to Ansarala saying, hey, you know, we really want to keep this ceasefire in place with you guys. Like, make sure you don't do anything because we won't like it. And, you know, kind of approached it that way at the same time of relaying the messages to the Saudis. Like, don't think this is an opportunity to escalate this conflict. And, you know, it is interesting because when Israel and the U.S.

bombed on Sarala in response to the blockade that they put in place on the Red Sea in response to the genocide in Gaza. Saudi Arabia didn't try to exploit that. It didn't start bombing on Sarala or, you know, push. I didn't seem to push down Trump to escalate the conflict. In fact, the reporting at the time was that Riyadh was trying to lower the temperature as much as possible. So why they chose to do this then when it created so many problems for not only some, Saudi Arabia, but the U.S. is really baffling. And I think one of the reasons, Scott, pointing out, Ansar al-the-Houthis aren't necessarily a proxy of Iran, maybe more just like kind of an ally to the country that adds with its own autonomy, similar to how Saudi Arabia is now

an ally with Pakistan. Yeah, Pakistan hasn't started bombing Yemen yet, is because without the U.S. help, Riyadh's next move was to go to Beijing and Islamabad and say, hey, use the impover. you have with Tehran to get them to pressure Ansarala to knock it off. And if Iran doesn't have the ability to do that because Ansarala is acting in their own interests and they chose to escalate this war and they see that they could gain more territory, conquer more of Yemen, threaten Saudi Arabia, maybe forced Riyadh to make a better deal. There's a lot of disputes. I think they're asking for reparations for the conflict.

there's some gas fields right on the Yemeni Saudi border in the Red Sea that are at dispute, islands out there at dispute. And so Ansarala may choose to push this advantage, no matter what Tehran asked them to do, which, of course, they did back in 2014 and 2015 when they initially went on their offensive to first conquer the capital city. The Iranians said, don't do that. And then when they pushed southward, the Iranian said, don't do that. you're going to provoke the Saudis, which ultimately ended up happening, they were in

order by the Houthis on both occasions. Obama even admitted that on tape. I'm almost certain it was in the Thomas Friedman exit interview at the New York Times that he admitted that that was the case quite against interest since he's the one who launched this horrible war in the name of we must thwart the Houthis because of how close they are with Iran. And he undermined his own excuse for the war. at that point. So now you...

Can I add just one more detail in there, Scott, that I think is worth noting? I did notice, I think it was in August that for the first time I saw the Iranians explicitly say that the memorandum of understanding now applies to Yemen, and that includes lifting the Saudi blockade of Yemen. And so that seems to be maybe the only change I've seen the Iranians publicly making their negotiating position thus far during the conflict. No, they added Gaza too back a few weeks ago, yeah. So, boy, that row's getting harder and harder to row all the time. But, yeah, look, from the Iranian point of view,

well, they've got to stick up for the Houthis, or the Houthis ain't going to stick up for them. Same thing with Hezbollah. Remember, it's the first time that Iran had ever bombed Israel on behalf of Hezbollah getting hit in Lebanon. And they did back a few weeks ago. Another precedent set there. and where Lebanon had always been in the MOU, now they've added Gaza, now they've added Yemen.

I mean, they know they're in the position of strength here, you know, which again, is highly dangerous considering our local president keeps getting in a worse and worse position all the time here. But now, so what about the Southern Transitional Council? I had read that, so for people, I guess, less familiar, Saudi backs the al-Isla, Muslim, Brotherhood forces and their allies in the war, while the UAE has been closer to the socialists in Aden, the Southern Transitional Council, and also al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, AQAP slash ISIS. There's not much of a difference between the two. They're now typically referred to in the media as the Giants Brigade. So if you see Giants Brigade,

that's a lot of the former, former quote-unquote, Al-Qaeda forces fighting for the UAE. Yeah. So now the U.S. backed Saudi and UAE in the prior war, 2015 through 22 there, even though they had their splits and differences. But now, I guess I had read that there's splits and differences, the way that they're playing out in this current conflict is the UAE is staying out. They prefer the STC. But then as you're saying, the Houthis are getting closer and closer to Aden all the time. So if the UAE wants to shore up their position in Aden, they're going to have to move. So that's a whole other front of the war. And I just wonder, there's much news about how that's developing, man.

The Giants Brigade is reported to be fighting Ansarala in Taiz. I think T.A.I.Z is the name of the city. It's a Yemeni city. I think it's the Lai Nets major city moving south on the road to Aiden. And it's a city that's been contested, I believe, throughout the entire competition. or at least since the Saudis got involved and initially pushed Ansarala back because they were threatening aid in,

I think, before the Saudis got involved. So the Giants Brigade are apparently fighting there. I don't think Ansarala has made major gains against the Giants Brigade, and they've more moved along the Red Sea coastline than more towards the center of the country there. All right. And now you alluded to this in your previous answer

about this new alliance, between Saudi, Pakistan, and Turkey. And I thought it was notable that the day after they announced the thing, Iran hit Saudi, seemingly, you know, with a point to daring Turkey and Pakistan to do anything about it. And then the next day, which they didn't, and then the next day Saudi asked Iran if they wanted to join, which I don't know if there's any new news about that. I think the Iranians did not take them up on their offer, but again, it shows their position of strength there. But then you have this piece here at anti-war.com from yesterday about how the Pakistanis are vowing to intervene in Yemen on Saudi's behalf there.

Is there any other reporting about that? Do you know how to measure how seriously to take that? I'm not sure that there's two statements from top Pakistani officials. One, the defense minister gave the stronger statement saying we're going to fulfill our duty. The prime minister said something about, you know, looking at contributing a little bit more vague language. So I'm not quite sure exactly what they're considering doing. I think it's notable that Pakistan has had about 1,500 troops deployed along Saudi southern border, at least through the first several years of this conflict. I'm not sure if they eventually withdrew after the ceasefire was signed.

There wasn't fighting for several years. So, you know, in very vague terms, maybe Pakistan is already fulfilling their side. of the agreement. It depends on, you know, what they actually are pledging to contribute and what they're actually supplying Saudi Arabia with. One other thing, it might be in part a PR issue for the Pakistani government to try to make some sort of show here because on Tuesday Saudi Arabia claimed that Ansar ala targeted Mecca. Now, Ansarala claims that the target was somewhere short of Mecca. Ian Blehos covered this for us at anti-war.com yesterday.

So it's unclear of what the actual target was, but Pakistan at least is saying they believe Saudi Arabia and the fact that Ansarala targeted Mecca is what's spurring them to now take action in this conflict. Yeah, well, isn't that sometimes the way, huh? All right. Now, well, I only have a... stupid punchline about America selling F-35s to Saudi.

What a rip-off there. They're trying to get their princelain friends killed or what, man. Don't they know those things all right out of the sky? Well, one interesting note about that, Scott, is, of course, Israel objects to any other Middle Eastern country getting F-35s. They threw a bit when the UAE joined the Abraham Accords and they were scheduled to get F-35s. I think that ultimately fell through because there was a bit. concerned about Chinese, too much Chinese technology in the Emirates.

They threw a fit when the turts were supposed to get F-35s, and Turkey end up getting kicked out of the F-35 program and sanctioned for buying Russian missile defense systems. And so I'm wondering if this is actually going to end up going through. There is actually, you know, U.S. policy that Israel maintains a qualitative military edge over all other countries in the Middle East. and with at least the F-35 being, you know, was labeled the most advanced fighter jet, if Saudis were also getting that,

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that you wrote. This is libertarian institute.org slash news. UN report reasonable grounds to believe that the U.S. committed war crimes. So I said in my introduction that, yeah, of course, it's illegal to start of war. everybody knows that. But other than that, I mean, what is this report about?

I don't even know that they tackle that subject. What does it say? Yeah, so it's a UN fat-finding mission report on human rights abuses in Iran this year. So a good chunk of the report is actually dedicated to investigating the number of deaths of Iranian protesters during the uprising at the very end of 2025 and through January of 20,000. But they also look at several U.S. air strikes, the girls' school and then a sports complex. And they find that with the girls' school, there's sufficient evidence that it was a multiple U.S. Tomahawk missiles and that the United States intended to strike the building, that they didn't intended to strike a school, but they did intend to hit that building. and they just didn't verify their intelligence enough,

which is important because those are all factors into what actually constitutes a war crime under international law. So they actually are presenting like a legal case here against the United States that we committed war crimes. And then they also looked at the bombing of a sports facility in Iran and found that that was an indiscriminate attack and kind of got into why that the U.S. was just kind of hitting random sites in Iran with advanced missiles and killing a huge number of civilians in the process.

Yeah. Yeah, what a disgrace, man. It seems like they must have at least discussed potentially apologizing for killing the kids at the school. And by the way, you know, I read the later thing I read about it. It was a bunch of little boys, too, you know, 20 or 50 or something of them were little boys. I forgot the number, but it was, you know, anyway, little kids, so all of them. And all they had to say was like, look, man, you know what, we weren't trying to do that. And because there's no reason to think that they were, right?

Their excuse that the DIA just was using old maps. And even that, you know, I guess the whistleblower kind of leaks that HECSeth had, you know, canceled the squad whose job it was to double check all the target lists for, you know, potential civilian targets and mistakes or whatever in there had been canceled and all that. But whatever. For apologies sake, they could leave that part out, but just say, look, we were trying to bomb the military base.

We didn't realize, or we had forgotten that we knew that this building was no longer part of the base anymore, but was now a school. And that was a terrible thing, but it wasn't on purpose. And so we are real sorry about it, whatever. They could keep bombing them all damn day. But just say that. You know what I mean?

Well, they got to add such insults injury by pretending to deny it and all this garbage, you know? Publicly, the military hasn't even actually admitted to doing it. I think the closest statement is Sancom commander. I was a Brad Cooper who said that the strike was correlated or the, whatever happened to the school was correlated with the U.S. strides on Iran. But, you know, that leaves some room for interpretation. You know, one thing about this strike, Scott, that's particularly disgusting is this was a part of the opening U.S. attack of the war.

You know, if it's three or six months into the conflict, you can see how in some way there would need to be a rush job or not enough betting of the targets were done or, you know, you're trying to do things quickly so you can identify where the military assets are going to. You only have a short window to hit them. So you had to strike quickly. But, you know, we had seemingly an endless amount of time to develop and re-check these targetlets. It's not as if Iran attacked us. We chose to attack them when we did if we needed an extra day to look at through the intelligence. I think the location of the Iatola was fairly well known. They kind of presented as, oh, we had this unique opportunity to kill him.

But the man was killed in his office. So, you know, we could have waited a month or two months and then carried out the attack. if we needed more time to bet the intelligence, but we chose not to do that and went in with bad targeting information. Oh, come on, Kyle. They were two weeks away from blowing up the whole Middle East with their atom bomb.

All right, let's end with this important piece to bring the war back home to Washington, D.C. here. We had Thomas Massey, the best congressman, issue articles of impeachment, or introduce articles of impeachment against the Secretary of Defense. And then, of course, the Speaker of the House, I know, just call a recess till after the election.

So I'm bitch. But then, but the House did vote to end the war again. Another war powers resolution, or this was an appropriation or what? This was another war powers resolution. I believe it's the third one that they've passed. The House, the Senate might have also passed one. But, you know, nothing's gone to Trump's desk. He hasn't had to veto anything yet.

Now, of course, somehow the Constitution that says Congress must pass the Declaration of War in order for the President to take the country to war, that has turned into the President could go to war anywhere he wants in the world for 90 days. And then if Congress wants to, they could pass a war powers resolution. And then the President could veto it. And if Congress could get a two-thirds majority in each House of Congress, then they could force a president to end the war. But effectively, that I just, I find the legislative pathway so overcoming that really I think it's going to have to be political pressure or just militarily the U.S. isn't able to fight anymore.

I don't see this actually getting anything done. Massey's articles against, of impeachment against head set, are more interesting just because he's really an unpopular figure at this point. He lies all the time. only Donald Trump is oppressed with how good he lutes in a suit. Nobody else really believes in. I saw an interesting statement from Mike Johnson this week trying to call the war against Iran won. Iran doesn't have a nuclear weapon. They can't get a nuclear weapon.

And so it seems like the members of Congress who are going to face a boat in a few weeks, whether or not they have their jobs, are, you know, very upset with fee headset in this administration because I think he's going to cost a lot of Republicans their jobs. And so when Congress reconvenes after the midterm elections, if you have a good number of Republicans who are no longer, they've lost their race, they're now lame duds, maybe they are more willing to join Massey and Democrats to vote to impeach Pete Hedset. Yeah, well, I'd sure like to see it.

You know, I just realized, Kyle, that we have a link to conflicts of interest on the Institute, but I don't see the link to the Kyle Anzillin show in the right-hand margin at the Institute. Do we not run the show at the Institute? I posted on the blog. Oh, you post on the blog.

By do you need to have Harley switch out the conflicts of interest for the Kyle Anzloon show logo over there. Yeah, you should just get with Harley and switch that out. It's a really great show, and I regret. I did not say in the introduction at the beginning. I just said you were the editor of this

and the editor of that, but what I should have said was, first and foremost that you are the host of the Kyle Anzalone show, which is available on Spotify and YouTube and all the podcatchers and everything and is really great stuff, man. I'm really proud of all the great work that you're doing and obviously you've mastered all this material in such a great way. And so I highly encourage everybody to check that out. And yeah, please do update the Institute site. And I also have to mention this, that it's fundraising time at the Libertarian Institute here. It's 10 years since I founded the Institute with Will Grigg and Shelden Richmond.

And in the meantime, we published 20 books and thousands and thousands of really great articles and podcasts, including Kyle's great news stuff that he publishes every single day. His new summaries at Libertarian Institute.org slash news and all his great shows and all that stuff. So if you are a Kyle Anz Long fan, if you're a fan of free market anti-war stuff like what we do at the Libertarian Institute, well, go and help support our efforts at Libertarian Institute.org slash donate. And then right after that, head over to YouTube and subscribe to Kyle's great show, the Kyle Anzalon Show.

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