ScreenCrush: The Podcast! - House of the Dragon FINALE - The WAR, Daemon's Vision, and Cameos EXPLAINED

Episode Date: August 5, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:30 Love thrillers with a paranormal twist? The entire Oracle trilogy is available on Audible. Listen now on Audible. Hey, welcome back, Screen Crush. I'm Ryan Ary, and we're going to talk about the finale of Season 2 of House of the Dragon and how this sets up season three, and we're going to explain Damon's vision in detail. A little later, I'm going to be joined by Darren Robinson and Brianna McLardy, and we're going to break down all the different players in the war, some key characters that are missing from the book, going to help me break down that vision. Also, I think that the aftermath of that vision is setting us up for a huge cameo from the original series. That could also be setting up a sequel series that takes place after Game of Thrones. And before we get rolling, I want to thank you guys
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Starting point is 00:01:44 work for war and then another season trying to avoid war. And now that the war is coming, you may be confused about all the players and what the hell Damon's vision is actually about. Yeah, why did Damon see DeNaris? And what does Alice have to do with all this? Well, don't worry, I am going to explain Alice Rivers, because we have to understand Alice before we can understand the vision in detail. First, we have to explain the setup for this vision, because it's important that you know exactly how Damon was able to see the future and the long night. So remember, Damon started off this season as the same old spoiled Brad that he was in season one. He had flashes where he was selfless, like when he crowned Reneera, but otherwise,
Starting point is 00:02:18 he was still the little brother who lusted after his brother's throne. He's continuously proven to be bad at diplomacy and then been embarrassed by his failures. And in this, he is a lot like Amund. After all, their names are anagrams of one another's. Damon and Amid are alike in many ways. For instance, they're both willing to sacrifice their families to achieve their own ambitions. So all season long, Alice has been trying to get Damon into the proper state of mind to wage this war. She has been casting spells on him in order to break him down emotionally. First, she makes him relive some of his key memories and also shows him how he could have been a better man along the way. Such as, instead of bragging that his nephew is dead, he could have consoled his brother when he was by
Starting point is 00:02:57 dead wife's side. All of this prepares Damon to receive this final message, which is a glimpse of the future that we've already seen play out in Game of Thrones. Okay, so who is Alice? And that's where it gets really good, Doug. In the book, it's just said that Alice is a witch and that she's rumored to be hundreds of years old. Several Easter egg videos ago, we theorized that she could have a connection to the children of the forest, and the children of the forest have a very interesting history that is key to understanding the entire saga of the story. Why, hello there? Here's your ball of cat hair. What? Why did you bring me a ball of cat hair? Well, because you're one. of our subscribers. Actually, you're our only subscriber. There's a picture of you on our wall.
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Starting point is 00:05:14 So back to the Children of the Forest. They are the original inhabitants of Westeros. When the first men came to Westeros, they made peace with them and even adopted the religion of the Children of the Forest, which involved the worship of Weirwood trees. Weirwood trees, you know, the white trees we see in the gods' woods of Game of Thrones, allow greenseers to see all of the past and future history. What's a green sear? Well, a green seer is like Brayenne and Game of Thrones.
Starting point is 00:05:35 You see, about 1 in 1,000 people in Westeros are born as what's called a skin changer. Or, you know, people who can put their minds into animals. But about 1 and 1,000 skin changers are green seers, and a green seer can see the future. And, for what we can tell, there is always one green seer who is known as the three-eyed raven. And the three-eyed raven is the repository of all knowledge and history in Westeros. In the original series, Brand becomes the Three-Eyed Raven. Now, we do see the Three-Eyed Raven in Damon's vision, which we'll explain in just a bit.
Starting point is 00:06:03 The point is that when the And dolls came into Westeros, they waged war against the children of the forest and burned down their werewood trees. And in a flashback in Game of Thrones, we see the Children of the Forest cast a spell on one of these men to create the White Walkers. So the Whitewalkers were intended to be used as a weapon against men, but then they went out of control and nearly destroyed everyone in Westeros. So if Alice has a connection to the children of the forest, then her end was in the world. goal would be to stop the long night from coming, to undo the damage the children of the forest have done. But I should also note that the Targaryens also have the gift of prophecy. The only reason they even came to Westeros is because Danes the Dreamer had a vision of the doom of Illyria. Agon also had a vision of the long night, which led to him conquering Westeros. Agon foresaw the end of
Starting point is 00:06:44 the world of men. It is to begin with a terrible winter. DeNaris had a vision of herself in the throne room, which paid off in the final episode of the show. And of course, Damon is given a glimpse of the future in this episode. But we also see that Helena has visions of the future, even predicting that Amid would lose an eye. You will have a dragon one day. You'll have to close an eye. And Helena is connected to that really awesome cameo that I think we're going to see that connects to the original series. But this vision is specifically catered to Damon. Now, instead of trying to control his own fate, he sees the role that he is meant to play in the story. This war is what leads to the dragons dying out, which eventually leads to the Nairus being exiled and her three
Starting point is 00:07:24 dragons hatching, which leads to John Uniting the realm and defeating the Whitewalkers. But I still have some questions about the vision and the war to come. So that's all the background on the visions, but I still have a lot of questions about the visions, the war to come, and some pretty key differences from the book. So to help me out with those, I have one of our very O'Brien and McLardy, who's written all of our House of the Dragon Easter egg videos and Game of Throne scholar Darren Robinson and also Second City Understudy. So guys, first of all, I want to talk about Nettles. So Nettles is a character who, you know, we see Sheep Steeler in this episode.
Starting point is 00:07:58 It looks like Raina's going to get Sheep Steeler. But in the book, it's a character called Nettles. Darren, would you like to tell me, you know, who Nettles is in the book and why you think maybe we're not going to get her in the show? So Nettles is a character who was in the book. She's described as a brown girl with dark hair who claims this brown dragon sheepstealer. And she claims Sheep's Steeler really through her wits alone. when she takes sheep to the dragon every single day and is very consistent with it,
Starting point is 00:08:25 much like you would train a horse when you're consistent with the animal, bring it food and water every single day. Then it trusts you and then you're able to ride. That's what she does with Sheep Steeler. And then Damon recruits her over to Rainier aside to help fight with the black. A couple of reasons why I feel like they cut nettles. One is because I think it creates a more satisfying art arena to claim a dragon. We've seen from season one as a kid, her dragon egg never.
Starting point is 00:08:51 hatched. And then finally, when her mother died and she thought she would claim Vagar, Amen claimed Vagar. And throughout her life, she's felt kind of sidelined and jealous of Bela, her sister who has a dragon, moon dancer, who she can ride and feeling just like she wants to help more in this battle and being unable to because she doesn't have a dragon. So I think it's great that she's able to do that. And it's a good thing for Raina. Two, the other reason why I feel like they cut nettles is because this season spent so much time kind of giving a redemption art for Damon's character and really bringing him back into the fold. He starts the season by kind of going off on his own, going to Heron Hall.
Starting point is 00:09:29 He has all these visions. He experiences all this regret and remorse over the people in his life that he's lost, his mother, his brother, his former wife, Lena, and even the way he's treated Renira up to this point. And so I think for him to have that character arc is very powerful. And in the book, Damon and Nettles have a relationship, a romantic and sexual relationship. Also, Nettles is 16 in the book. Yeah, it gets pretty creepy.
Starting point is 00:09:57 It does. It does. And I think they really just wanted to avoid the adultery of it all and the pedophilia of it all. And to give Damon that wonderful character arc that he needs before going into this war. Yeah, and of course, the end of that character arc is his vision, which I'm going to break down with you guys in just a bit. First, I, Breonna, I'm not clear on one thing. Why did the mistress of the veil kick Raina out? Is it because they only brought these two small dragons?
Starting point is 00:10:24 I think it's that. I think she's pretty isolationist. The veil tends to be isolationist. And she did decide to side with Renira, but it was conditional because she was really mad that Damon killed Rio Royce because she was very close friends with her. And I think she probably just thought it would be better for them to be impetus. However, I did kind of feel.
Starting point is 00:10:44 feel like when she turned away, she knew that Raina was going to run for that dragon. Because she like watched Raina sort of pause, look back at her, and then she just turned her back, which made me think, okay, she's kind of like willfully turning a blind eye because she knows if anyone can claim that dragon, it's going to be Raina. And they want a dragon because they are scared of Vigar. Yeah. And like Darren said, it is a great arc for her. And Raina, you know, in the book goes on to do some interesting things.
Starting point is 00:11:10 But as far as like in this war, you know, if she, in the. up with Damon, they're in the same region, then it doesn't give Damon that relationship, romantic relationship, God, I hope not. But what it does give him is time with his daughter. And he has neglected his daughters since, you know, his wife, really before his wife died, he's never been that interested in them. And Lena, in the vision specifically says, like, have you checked on our girls? So that would also tie that together. Yeah, and like I said, the visions are very true to Game of Thrones and to the books, but we'll get to that in a second. First, I want to talk about
Starting point is 00:11:44 somebody I think who watched this episode sees all of these different people suiting up and the people sailing from Esos and maybe it can get a little bit confusing for certain people like, okay, so where are we? Who is where? What is happening? Who are these sides? So if you can, I just want to break down like the different elements of this war and talk about so, you know, why everybody is suiting up. First of all, let's start with the Valerian fleet. They've already had initiated a blockade of King's Landing that's very successful. So they've cut, they've cut them. off from all this food. Why in this episode are they armoring up, suiting up, and sending out more warships than they were before? It's because they know that they can't hold that blockade forever. And they know that eventually the Greens are going to retaliate against that blockade. They probably figure that the Greens are specifically reaching out to the Greyjoys. In fact, they mentioned the Greyjoys. Because the Lannisters have a good fleet too. They have to, because the Lannisters are right next to the Iron Islands. Sorry to cut you off. Exactly. So you have these like two very strong navies.
Starting point is 00:12:44 But the Valerians are much stronger. However, the Triarches Navy is, I mean, they fought over the Stepsones for years. So they're actually not preparing to go fight with the Triarchy because there is no way they would think they would ally with the triarchy. They're like incredibly untrustworthy. And obviously the Stepstones have been a battleground for a very long time. They're preparing for the Greyjoys and the Lannisters. And they just think they have it in the bag. Gotcha.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Now, the triarchy in the book, it's described as like being ruled by, I think, 33 different lords. I pictured in the book, like a giant triangular table with all these guys shouting at it. I love how they showed the triarchy in this show, in this episode with, you know, Brianna, you did such a great job in the Easter egg video that we had out yesterday, where you talked about the different styles and how you can tell this person's from here, the blueberry, like, that was fantastic. It's a really cool element to see them portrayed there and to see how their different culture works and how they don't command this person who's in charge of these ships.
Starting point is 00:13:43 you know, Thailand has to prove himself in battle. Awesome side quest. So I'm down with that. The triarchy, the stepstones, we know the triarchy eventually collapses because they're not around a Game of Thrones, but now they're a naval force to be reckoned with. So that's the narrow sea. I guess the gray joy is also committed to the Greens at some point. No, the gray joys are undecided. They mentioned that maybe they could, you know, sell Allison off to the Red Cracket. And she was like, absolutely not. At the Green Town, she's like, that's out of the question. So Amund threw a little hissy fit and he burned a full town.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Sharp Point. Where is Sharp Point at in relation to Dragonstone? So Sharp Point is in the Crownlands. So it's in the same region as Kings Landing. I think it's more closer to the coast. And so that's why he burned it. I mean, he was on his way to Dragonstone, saw Rainier and the Three Dragons got upset, came back to the Crownlands and just burned Sharp Point. Yeah, they're bar emmon, which is a minor house, but they were supporting the blacks. And so he just burned them. Also, just like the fact that he's burning innocent people is just not a good thing.
Starting point is 00:14:53 And it's a sign, as Allison says, that he's just not mature enough for this and is not a good leader. And he's going to bring them all to ruin. But then again, he's burning innocent people. And we have this great moment at the dinner table where Reneira says, we're going to burn innocent people. and she just expects these small folk to go, oh, yeah, totally makes sense, knowing that it's going to be their friends and families who might get, you know, annihilated by these dragons.
Starting point is 00:15:19 So then Damon has gathered all these different river lords together at Heron Hall. It's a massive host. Kristen Cole doesn't really have any fight left in him at this point. So what's going on with Sir Kristen's forces? Like, are they still, does he still have an army? Is he still going around the Riverlands, Darren? Like, what the hell's going on with him? Who's Damon actually going to be fighting?
Starting point is 00:15:42 Yeah, so Kristen Cole is marching on the Riverlands with Gwain, Hightower, who's Allison's brother. And then the idea is that Amund, at some point, Amon and Bigar will fly from King's Landing to the Riverlands to meet up with the army to fight against Damon and the River Lords. Okay. So they're still out there, though. Do they still have a large force or did the battle with the Battle of Rook's rest? Did that, like, decimate who they have? because there's also the reach, which I'll talk about in a second. So at this point, does Damon have superiority in numbers over Kristen Cole? I think maybe at this point, but the high towers are also
Starting point is 00:16:18 marching towards them. So they've got the high towers marching. They've got the Leffords and the lanisters marching from the west over the river road, I believe, which is the one that separates the riverlands and the Westlands. And so there are more greens coming from the west and from the reach to help with Kristen Cole's numbers. So even if they did lose a lot of people at Rook's Rest, they still won that battle and they still have more forces coming who are closer.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Now, Brianna, speaking of the High Towers, one thing I wish we had in this season, and I get it, it's only eight episodes. Dragons are expensive. We keep hearing about, you know, the reach is in rebellion, and there's fighting going on over there. We saw Otto High Tower in a cell
Starting point is 00:17:04 at the end of this episode. So what's going on in the reach that might be slowing down the high tower's progress? Because remember, guys, Westrose is the size of South America. So it's going to take everybody a while to get to where they're going. Brianna, what's going on in the reach right now? Okay, so there are a few things going on. The first is House Beesbury. So Beesbury was the Lord of, or Commander of Laws.
Starting point is 00:17:25 Sir Kristen Cole just straight up murked him in episode nine. He was the one that he just, like, head slammed and just took him out. So the beesberries are really angry about that And they're a fairly powerful house The other thing is that High Garden They originally allied with the Greens Because they didn't want their smaller house To look more powerful than them
Starting point is 00:17:52 Or look like they were going against them But eventually they ended up going neutral Because there was just so much civil war happening Between the Beesbury's and everybody else And probably because they could make a lot of money It's never outright set but they can sell food to both sides and make a lot of fun. I think you pointed this out either in one of these videos or in our Easter egg video
Starting point is 00:18:09 that no matter what, people need the high towers. They need the food. So they can't afford to be neutral and play both sides. And jack up prices of grain too while they're at it. Yes. Because there's a blockade on King's Landing where the fishermen can't get in, so they're not really getting any food from the sea. So they have to get it from the land.
Starting point is 00:18:28 I'm going to tell you guys, if I were to live in Westeros, why would you not live anywhere but Dorn? Dorn just seems like the ultimate place to be. And the last group we see coming down across the Twins are the Starks of Winterfell and all those northern houses. There's a lot of graybeards in there, you know, like, like Cregan said, but they're coming down too. So when can we expect them to actually join the fight? They're closer. They're coming closer now because the phrase who own the twins are vassal Lord underneath the Tullies. So they are crossing now from the north into the Riverlands. So they are getting closer. That makes sense. That all lines up. If you guys still have any
Starting point is 00:19:08 questions about the war or if we've misspoke and call it a house by the wrong name, let us know in the comments. Darren, real quick, before we move on to the vision, what's your social? Where can people find you? At Darren underscore to Dream. And I'm on Instagram. Yay. Okay. All those links are below. Brianna, how about you? Brianna T. McClarty. I'm on Instagram. and on TikTok. Awesome. So all those hip things that I never go on. All right. So now I want to break down the vision. Earlier, we talked about everything leading up to the vision. We gave context for it. We talked about it in our Easter egg video. There's a few things I think we could go into a little bit more depth now that the three of us are here. So let's go ahead and start looking at some stills from
Starting point is 00:19:47 this vision. And let's just kind of look and you guys can explain and we'll explain to the people watching what exactly we're looking at. So our first still, this is, as we said in our Easter egg video, The Three-Eyed Raven looks very similar to Max von Seidout in Game of Thrones. So what do you guys seeing here? Is this where we saw the Three-Eyed Raven originally? Who even is the Three-Eyde Raven? Well, they don't name him in the Game of Thrones TV show series, but there's speculation that he's Brendan Rivers,
Starting point is 00:20:17 who is a bastard, Targaryen bastard of Egan the 4th, who is Egan the Unworthy. So he's coming in another couple generations. but he's he's a Targaryan bastard and that's who we think the three-eyed raven is. Is this the same like area in the north where Brandt met him? I believe so and I have two reasons. A it just looks very similar, it's a cave, but also he's sitting on the same chair, except the chair is smaller. It hasn't grown as much.
Starting point is 00:20:48 It's almost as if he has just been sitting in that chair the entire time and just like never really moved. So I definitely think it's the same chair and I also think sort of sort of the growth of the tree shows us how much growth of time it's been. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. Plus also his physical growth. So let's go look at the next one here, this next image. Here we see him a better look at him. And just like in the show, like the first time we see him in the show, he looks intertwined with the tree.
Starting point is 00:21:15 And then they cast Max von Seidow on the plot. You don't cast Max von Seidow so he can stay up against a prop tree the whole time. So here I think we're seeing the same thing. Same tree. Is this kind of wherewood tree that he's attached to? Is that how he's like attached to this network across all of Westrose. Yeah. I think so. Let's check out the next one. Now here we get a look that makes him look like a Targaryen, right? He was very young. This kind of lends to the Brendan Rivers thing because Brendan Rivers was the Targaryen bastard. Of Aegon the 4th. And Darren, I think you said earlier,
Starting point is 00:21:44 he kind of looks like Aegon. He does. Like he, I mean, his eyes, look at his eyes, look at his haircut. He looks like Egan the 2nd a little bit. So he looks like he could be is. So we've never met Aegon the 4th. Agon the 4th is much further down. He has not been born yet. He won't appear. in this show. He's later on. Was John Snow Agon the 6th or the 7th? I think he's the 7th because Rhaegar's son, his first son was the 6. He had two Agons. Oh, right. Target. I mean, look, if we're wrong, you can't blame us. The Targaryians are hell and confusing, right? Look, Allison got it wrong. Alicent got it wrong. If she gets it wrong, it may be a problem with the system. If you want to learn more about Agon the 4th and some of the other Targaryens,
Starting point is 00:22:21 like in between House of the Dragon and Game of Thrones, I recommend reading a Knight of the Seven Kingdoms, which is a group of three novellas that George R. Martin wrote about the Blackfire Rebellion and like this other period that happened in between these two shows. Yeah, and it's one I have not read. I'm looking forward to. All right. Next one. Let's take a look here. So then we see he's got a birthmark on his face that then takes form as the three-eyed raven. Did Max von Seidel have that birthmark on him or do you think this is just symbolic of him being the three-eyed raven? I think it's symbolic. I think it's specifically. It almost looked to me like a portman as like at least on the screen I was watching it looked very red here it doesn't look quite as red
Starting point is 00:23:01 but it's almost like for me he was touching the weirwoods and this weirwood zap of course being red and that's also how damon sees the vision is that it like very cool right yeah and like we talked about earlier and like you saw on game of thrones the three-eyed raven is basically the ultimate repository of knowledge like if somebody knows what they're doing like you can touch a wherewood tree get visions of the future but brand can touch a wearwood tree and just full-on dive into the library. It's like everybody else goes to a weird tree. It's like reading a book for brand. It's like gone on Wikipedia and read it as many articles
Starting point is 00:23:31 as he wants at the same time. So moving on, let's take a look at this one. Here we get a better shot of the three-eyed raven. What I thought was really cool about this is the camera zooms in on the eye because it's said that the eye, so there it is. The eye itself is what gives the raven extra sensory perception, just like in you know mythology. We're in certain religions. They say open your third eye, your eye to the spirit realm. And here we can, so everything we're seeing is within the eye of the raven, which is really cool. Moving on.
Starting point is 00:24:00 So this was neat. This part here, it's like the camera, they kept the camera load of the ground and it's running. This reminded me of in the books when John, because, you know, John and the other Stark kids are all, I call them skin walkers in the books. Yeah, yeah. Skin changers. Skin changers, right. Because a warg, I can't remember that there's been a warg and a skin changer.
Starting point is 00:24:21 I know there is like a very fine line between them. point is John has dreams where he's a wolf and he goes out hunting because he is inside of Snow's body and Snow's going out hunting. So this reminded me of that. And I thought it was an interesting way to kind of include the Starks in this vision without actually showing the Starks in the vision. Would you guys agree this is maybe part of that? I have really thought of it more. Yeah. I think you even hear growl as they're like running as he's running you hear a growl. I was watching it was like, my big headphones in. And you actually hear a growl. So I mean, it was like, oh, yes, this is a warg.
Starting point is 00:24:58 And then I think the warg is dire wolves and like dogs. And then skin changers are all other animals. Thank you so much. Yeah. It would make something running. Go ahead. It looks like an animal that's running rather than flying. Like I don't think it's the raven. I think it's probably. I agree. The way it bounces to. And also, you know, it being a wolf, it could be John running head on toward these white walkers to fight the Whitewalkers, which is really cool. All right. Let's take a look next. Next, we see the Army of the Dead. And then we see a guy who is not the Knight King and the next still, but is, looks like a couple of the whites that we saw, not the whites, looks like a couple of the White Walkers that
Starting point is 00:25:36 we saw in the original series. He looks like his second in command guy with the long game. He does, yeah. Yeah. And we never knew that guy's name. Sorry, we never knew that guy's name because they never gave their names. What dragon is this? I thought it was Malyse. I could have been wrong. I looked at a lot of dragon images. I personally thought it was Malyse because you can also see other dead dragons behind her. And it's not any of Danny's dragons, I believe.
Starting point is 00:26:05 You could see other dead dragons behind her. And you can see the Red Keep like way, way in the background. So I was like, this is like showing the dance of the dragons. And Malyse being the first one who died, that's like all the other dragons around her. And see, this is, go ahead. They all look a little alike. So I'm not putting money on Mayle's, but that is what I thought. Well, but what you're saying is interesting, though, because one thing about this vision is, it's all metaphor.
Starting point is 00:26:31 A few of the things in this are literal things, like the last image of Danny with the Dragons, which we'll talk about in a second. That's something that literally happened, but it didn't literally look like that, right? Danny, you know, we've seen the show. Danny, it's not exactly how she came up and things like that. The eggs were not placed like that when they were in the blood, magic, and burned. just like this could be showing Melyse as the first to die, the only one who's died so far, but she won't be the last.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Looking at the teeth and the shape of the jaw, it almost looks like Vermethore a little bit. Okay. Just thinking about how we saw Vermethor in the last episode and what he looks like. But I also, yeah, I agree. I think it doesn't have to be any one dragon. I think it's more metaphor of just like the graveyard of dragons
Starting point is 00:27:16 that will happen because of this. war and the dying of the dragons is really another name that it's called. Very cool. Next one. Now, in this next image, we see Damon falling into water. Now, again, like I said, we don't know what this show is going to keep from the books. We don't know if this is all a metaphor, right? Water has so many deep symbolic meanings in literature and in your dreams, like water symbolizes emotion, being engulfed by emotion. And Damon is somebody who is always close to his passions. And we're also seeing all of these similarities between Damon and Eamon,
Starting point is 00:27:52 held their names or even anagrams for each other. I think it's interesting that the scene that's directly after this, Helena gives Aymond a prophecy and tells him, hey, you're going to die, and even names a place in Game of Thrones. Now, it does not mean that's going to happen. They could be changing things. It could all be metaphor. As we saw in the original series and in this show,
Starting point is 00:28:12 prophecy is oftentimes misinterpreted. like Vassiris, for example, right? Vesiris clearly saw him placing his son, Agon on the throne, and then his son beating back the long night. Well, that's not what happened. A different Agon did that. So I want to tell everybody, even if you've read the books, even if you think you know what's happening in these visions,
Starting point is 00:28:31 I don't think any of this is actually a spoiler. So let's move on to the next one. This is important. This is the red comet from the start of Game of Thrones season 2, first episode. Darren, can you tell me about this comet? Yes, so this was the red comet and it was seen by Danny and Stannis and John Snow in the original show. And this was the comet that kind of brought the magic back in order for the eggs to hatch with the blood magic. And also it was prophesied that this comet coming would heralds like the prince who was promised in all of the events that we see play out in the show.
Starting point is 00:29:09 So it's kind of a prophetic incident that's happening with this. Yeah, and Stannis, you know, we see it over him because Melisandra thought he was the prince of his promise. But really it was, there's like the shots where they show John and Danny with the comet are almost exactly alike. Like to also show how linked and how they together can even be the prince who was promised. And it's also overbrand as well. Next shot shows us a close up of the comet, which we never saw. And I thought this was interesting, that they don't just show the common as a streak in the sky. There's even a shot after this one where then we hear it rumble.
Starting point is 00:29:44 It's almost like the might of Westeros, the might of magic is returning to this land. And then that shot goes into this shot of the three dragons engulfed in flames. So this brings up something that I want to just briefly touch on. A lot of people think that Targaryens are immune to fire, Brianna, because Danny survived fires twice. One of those times are from the book, the first one, the second time, George R. Martin hasn't even written that part yet. So what is the misconception about this scene where the dragon survive in fire? Well, there's a thought that they survive in fire
Starting point is 00:30:15 because of those. Truthfully, that was sort of a one-off thing. Dragons and their writers are both hurt by fire. Sunfire and Agon obviously show this. They are not okay. But these ex specifically, the ones that Danny had, were basically considered an her ex. They were not really alive anymore.
Starting point is 00:30:34 That's why she was gifted them. And it's also why originally Bravo got to keep them. So I think with these eggs, it was that they needed the fire to hatch and also the blood sacrifice. Because if you watch the first season, the funeral pyre for her husband, Caldrogo, and it's also then the witch. And both of those burn. And then Danny walks in the fire and she survives that. So the witch already had some like magic sprinkled in there. And then on top of that, the actual just blood magic that's always linked to dragons and their eggs. So Brianna, thank you for that. Thanks for that. That makes perfect sense. Now, then we get this shot and we all
Starting point is 00:31:04 know who this is. This is DeNaris with her three dragon hatchlings. Again, not literal. We don't see the people who were there when the dragons hatched. But from behind, he doesn't know this is DeNaris. Do you think like what he's seen here in this vision is the dragons die, everybody dies, and here's the Targaryian dynasty being reborn. Here's hope being reborn. Now, because this shot is followed by a shot of Reneira, do you think that he thinks this is Reneira? Because from behind, it kind of does look like young Reneira. I think so. I think he probably does think that this is Reneira.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Also, I think it's interesting that with both Daeneres in Game of Thrones and Reneira and House the Dragon, as they slowly become more powerful and more militant, and as they start amassing these armies and this power, they start changing their hairstyle to be more like
Starting point is 00:31:54 Vesnia, Vesnia, the Conqueror who was known for wearing the braids. Because, like, his two sister wives, Rini, the Conqueror and Vesnia the Conqueror and Reneas would always wear her hair as described in the book very kind of flowy and long and then Vesnea was the one who had
Starting point is 00:32:11 the sword, dark sister that Damon now wields Vesnea's sword and so she wears the braids and I think that maybe we're just seeing that come up again just like this motif of strong Bulgarian women with braids and he probably thinks it's Reneera and you know in the last episode of the show
Starting point is 00:32:32 too. There's something that I noticed, and I don't know if we mentioned in our video or not, where when Allison's talking to Renira, Allison, her hair is loose and flowing. She's free. She's finally herself. Whereas Renira has these, and Brianna, you've pointed this out in our videos. The more intricate braid, like, the more official the person is, right? And when the hair starts to come loose is when you see how they truly are. I did not know that about Visinia. That is really cool. Okay, so this explains the vision. I think I got a good handle on that. We do have to wrap it up. just want to once again thank you guys for joining me and explaining so much of the vision and the war and everything else. It's been a big help. Again, you can find everybody's
Starting point is 00:33:09 social links listed below. So now I want to talk about why it's important that the long night vision leads to the downfall of the Targaryens and the big cameo I hope this is setting up. Yeah, why does the show keep talking about the long night and all the frost zombies? Get over it. Well, because that's what this entire story is all about. It's about the forces of ice and fire coming together to defeat ice zombies. But the reason that Damon has this vision is less about the Whitewalkers and more about the power of prophecy. Agon the Conqueror conquered the seven kingdoms because he had a vision. Many thousands of people died because he had a religious conviction that he was saving the world, just as there are many characters in Game
Starting point is 00:33:43 of Thrones who have similar beliefs. DeNaris and Stanis Barathean both believe that they alone could save the realm. So it will be interesting to see how Damon might misinterpret the vision that he saw. For instance, we know that he saw DeNaris in his vision, but like we said earlier, he probably interprets this to mean Reneira. Therefore, he will commit atrocities in the name of his wife because he believes it's the right thing to do. But what I thought was most interesting about this vision was its ending. Now, like I said earlier, we've seen that Helena has the gift of prophecy. Throughout seasons one and two, she's often seen muttering to herself. But you have to wonder, was she muttering to herself? Or was she talking to someone
Starting point is 00:34:21 else like she's talking to Damon here? Think about it. To Amen, it looks like she's talking to herself. So what if all these other times she wasn't muttering? What if she was talking to another green seer like Alice Rivers? Well, like we said earlier, the three-eyed raven and the green seers are capable of looking at the whole span of time and history. And in Game of Thrones, we saw Bran actively engaged with the past. It looked as if he called out to his father and his father heard him. And we know what happened to poor Willis whenever Brand warged into his head at the wrong time. So, because this show,
Starting point is 00:34:56 loves to have its connections to the original series, I think it's going to be revealed that Helena has been speaking to Bran Stark. So, spoilers for the original series ending. The series ends with Bran becoming an all-knowing wizard king who has crowned the king of Westeros. All hell, Bran the Broken, first of his name, king of the Anders and the first men. It's also implied that he is going to continue using his abilities to influence the past, present, and future. For instance, he's going to spend a lot of time looking for Drogon. And Drogon? Any word?
Starting point is 00:35:27 He was last spotted flying east to whether away the better. Perhaps I can find him. If it turns out that Helena is speaking to King Brand, then I think the series could end with Brand in the present day. He will have obtained whatever knowledge he needed to find the dragon. And I think the dragon could lead to a new series that takes place after the end of this show. In the past, there was a rumor John Snow spinoff in the works, which has thankfully been cancelled, but I don't think this story is done being told. There are four continents in this world that we, you know, two of that we haven't even seen yet.
Starting point is 00:35:55 So, would you like to see a spinoff of House of the Dragon that follows the further adventures of Brand Stark? Let me know your thoughts down in the comments below or at me on Twitter. And if it's your first time here, please subscribe and smash that bell for alerts. For Screen Crush, I'm Ryan Erie.

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