ScreenCrush: The Podcast! - LOKI Season 2 Episode 2 REVIEW and THEORIES - Can the Show Save Marvel?

Episode Date: October 13, 2023

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It's okay to have a drink while we're down here, because we're still working. Is he running now? He is running. Hey, welcome back Screen Crush. I'm Ryan Erie, and let's talk about Loki Season 2 episode 2. Now, this season is not really generating the kind of fan buzz that we saw two years ago with season 1. But that doesn't mean it's bad. In fact, I think the show could even end up topping season 1. Now, I got some thoughts on this episode I can't wait to tell you about.

And a little later, I want to hear from the Screencrush Brain Trust, Colton Ogburn, and Brianna McLaherty. Plus, I got a theory that Sylvie might become the very thing she hates the most, that I'm going to talk about a little bit later on. I cannot wait to give you my take in these theories, but first, I just have to thank everybody for supporting our channel and shopping our Loki-inspired merch at our merch store at screencrushmerch.com. We have the Screencrush variant hoodie, the usual variants t-shirt,

Doug as Loki, Miss Minutes as Dolly Clock, and lots of geeky merch that we design ourselves. This is the best way for you to directly support our channel. Thank you for making this a success. Now, I thought this episode was a little bit of a step down from the premiere. Like the premiere just nailed it for me. We had that amazing season one cliffhanger that we've been theor. rising about for years. And I thought that episode one delivered on that and teased all these new

mysteries. And the pace of that first episode was so manic. There was like a literal ticking clock. The TVA was about to be destroyed. Loki was being jerked through time. And it also introduced my new favorite character, Obie. Have you heard about how if you fall into a black hole you turn into spaghetti? No. Good. The less you know about that, the better. Whereas the stakes in this episode were a lot less clear. We started off on this mission to find X-5, but then they had to explain why they were even looking for X-5. You will tell us if you found Sylvie when you've had time in holding. It felt like we missed something between these two episodes.

Like, am I alone here, or did anyone else not quite get why they were looking for Sylvie and Brad? Personally, I think they could have had the timelines being pruned, like at the start of the episode, to add a bit more suspense and give the episode a little more drive. Yeah, I mean, but the show started with an action scene. Yeah, and you know what, the Bradfoot chase is pretty good, and it was really fun to see Loki finally get to use his powers. But where I think this episode really excelled was its character development. Like, there's been a lot of talk lately about how Marvel shows haven't been structured like normal TV shows.

They've been structured like long movies that get cut up into pieces. And I think that Wanda Vision and Loki have been the exceptions to this rule. So this episode gives us kind of a typical TV episode, The Breather. Breather's are episodes where characters kind of step back and take stock of what the hell just happened. That escalated quickly. In Game of Thrones, we usually get these episodes like around a big event, like the Red Wedding or The Long Night. I can never be load of Winterfell. I can never be load of anything.

and the three-eyed raven. I don't know what that means. So, this episode lets us sit back and really look at how much these characters have changed since the first season. Like Loki is a completely different character from who he was in episode one. The first and most oppressive lie ever rotted was the song of freedom. There are lies at stake. And the show is really making him face this question. Can he change?

Can this villain who always wanted to be a hero actually become a hero? And Mobius has become the most tragic character in the show. show. He went from being a sycophant for the timekeepers. Existence is chaos. And I'm just lucky that the chaos I emerged into gave me all this. To wanting to have just a glimpse of his old life. Who had a jet ski? And now he's reverted. He's afraid of his old life. Hey, don't you want to see the life you're supposed to live before they kidnapped you and brought you into the TVA? Not really. So much of this show really shines when they give these incredible actor space to breathe and really embody these characters. Hey, person, what's that candy you're eating? Well, boss,

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And I loved how this episode really changed Sylvie's dynamic as well. For her entire life, she has always had her mission. And now, she's enjoyed not having anything to do. She's working in fast food for the same reason Lester Burnham did. I'm looking for the least possible amount of responsibility. Like, I feel like episode one set the literal stakes for this season. We're counting down to the destruction of the TVA. Multiversal War is coming soon.

But this episode really set the character stakes. Loki is wondering if he can be a hero. You're a villain. Mobius has to face his fear of happiness. And Sylvie has to overcome her cynicism and help to create a, better TVA instead of just working to destroy the TVA. I mean, she has spent her entire life in dying worlds and now she actually has a chance to live. So the character stuff, great. Some of the actual episode, not great. Like, a lot of the fight choreography here was just kind of ma'

like there were some very imaginative parts of the foot chase that, you know, would have been written on the page, like Loki Duplication casting Londoners to distract Brad or like how he created shadows of his Loki horns. But the fight against Docs' people was pretty bland. Or ready them in. Okay, well, like, so Loki says, I was struck. But instead of like duplication casting or creating illusions of a larger army, he just runs in and attacks. Like I felt like this sequence could have been so much fun. Look, you've got two space wizards, Owen Wilson, and a bunch of time traveling cops with time gear.

But instead, the fight just kind of felt rushed and cheap and it was unimaginative in its execution. Now, if this fight had been in a Marvel movie, it would have been an epic Guardians hallway fight. Here, it was just something that we had to get done fast so we could get to the end of the episode. But the next scene was stellar. of these timelines are being erased, these actors can really bring it home. Wanmi Musaku as Hunter B-15 sells this scene. I mean, guys, look, this screen, it's just Missile Command, it's 8-bit lines on a TV screen. But the anguish in her face makes you feel those lives being lost, the birthdays that

never happened, the pets that never get adopted. It's a riveting performance. In the Easter egg video, I compared it to Princess Leia watching Alderon be destroyed. Sometimes you don't need like expensive visual effects showing people dying and cities burning. the human emotion of a great actor is enough. Now, the big question I have, though, is who warned Docs? In our Easter egg video, I theorized that it was time-traveling Mobius. But I got another theory that I think is even more likely,

and I think a complete Sylvie's arc for this season. But I'm going to get the thoughts of the Screencrush Brain Trust. We have our own Brianna McLaugherty and Colton Ogburn. Colton, what about you? What did this episode do it for you? Or was this, like, kind of a step back from that premiere? Well, I mean, it was certainly slower, but I think that was the point. And this season actually feels like a television show, just like season one did.

We've talked about before how some Marvel shows and Star Wars shows on Disney Plus, they feel like chopped up movies. I feel like Loki has always handled that well. If you look at a lot of shows kind of in this genre, like Walking Dead, their season premieres would be really big. And then episode two of that season would be slower, more character development. And that's what they did with this episode. I love that you mentioned the pie scene. See, like in a movie, that's something you wouldn't necessarily have time for, especially a Marvel movie. So I love that they're telling these stories in a TV show format because we got to experience more of, like, what's going on with Mobius and stuff like that.

So actually, like, when I started this episode, I thought I might have, like, missed an episode or something with how it just jumps into it with, like, Brad Wolf and X-5. I was like, am I missing something here? Was there a time jump? Did I miss like another post-credit scene or something? Because it appears that X-5, that's the agent's name, right? I'm getting that right. He's been on Earth. He becomes Brad Wolf.

He's undercover. He's got a movie coming out. Has he just like experienced time longer? What was Yale's take on that? And then they come and find him. I don't know. Well, he's been on the timeline. You know, he's been separate from the TVA.

So I think he's been on Earth for a while doing this, you know? Like Sylvie has too. Yeah, like Longer. compared to perhaps what has passed in the TVA, I guess. Yeah. But overall, it's like in a good place, the Jeremy Beremys. It's like time just works different there and you don't, yeah. Yeah.

But overall, I enjoyed the episode. I loved getting to see more of Mobius. I love that scene where he snapped. I thought that was really cool. Owen Wilson, very talented actor. I mean, for most of his career, you know, he's done like the comedy movies and stuff. So getting to see him really get to delve into this character was really neat. I love OB. He's probably my favorite part of the show.

By far. Yeah. Yeah. And then just one more thing on confusion, because I'm wanting you guys to maybe help explain it to me. Did you notice when they would go like to a different timeline, it would say sacred timeline or branch timeline? We've talked about before various timelines in the sacred time. I was under the impression the sacred timeline was destroyed. And, you know, so how all that is working? If I'm confused, I can only imagine that a casual viewer may be confused, or maybe they're not giving it as much thought as I am. So, Brianna, you're somebody, like, I know you love Wanda Vision.

It's one of your favorite MCU things ever. You know, we've talked about Loki Season 1 before. You like Loki Season 1. How is this season and this episode in particular working for you? I definitely like it. I think I had kind of subconsciously lowered my expectations because of Secret Invasion, honestly. I was like nervous, and I was like, I'm just not going to go in expecting it. lot. I really like it. It's not quite where the first season was for me. I think it's had a bit

of a harder job to pull off in the first season because it was kind of coming in with all this baggage. And I just think the story is kind of inherently more confusing. And I feel like the pacing of the episodes have been a little weird. It went from like being really, really fast in the first episode, which I actually liked because I felt like it matched where they were. And I feel like this episode was a lot slower and it just, it's not that I didn't like the pacing, it just caught me off guard to do such a big switch. But it's definitely the most enjoyable show for me in a long time to come out of Marvel. It doesn't beat Wanda Vision. I don't think anything will. I just love that show so much, but I am really enjoying it. Yeah, I mean,

when you compare, we did a video just earlier this week about Loki's extremely slow start. I know numbers came out later, Disney Plus said it's one of the highest premieres of all time, but people didn't watch it right away, and I think Secret Invasion turned a lot of people off. It's interesting you mentioned the pacing, like I was talking about earlier. Did you feel like this episode helped us dive into the characters a bit more than the first one? I do. I think that it was needed for it to slow down.

I think it just slowed down really fast. I don't think it's realistic to have a show that is as fast-paced as the first episode was the entire time. I think it would get really overwhelming. As it was, I had a lot of people be like, I didn't know what was happening. So I think that it helped us sort of get our bearings. I just, again, I feel like I would have liked a little bit more of a gradual decrease just so it wouldn't be quite so jarring to go from episode one to episode two.

Yeah, I agree because the stakes were very clear in episode one. This episode seemed to be all over the place. But, you know, like I did talk about earlier, I do think that it did give us a bit more, it really did a good job of diving into character. Do you feel like after this, do you feel like you know these characters a little bit better, or do you think you already kind of like knew this and the episode kind of just spun its wheels? I think I definitely know Mobius better, especially. Like, I think I really understand where he is with this a lot better than I did before.

I felt like their little pie scene was an amazing scene. And honestly, kind of raises some really big existential questions. It's sort of like the, at the end of Multiverse of Madness, when Dr. Strange asks Wong, are you happy, knowing that there might be versions of you that are happier? Like, I actually really loved that. The character I'm a little confused on right now is actually Sylvie, just because she kind of went from such a warrior

to now almost like a domestic, very calm life. And I do understand that's like what she's wanted, but it doesn't necessarily seem like totally realistic to me that she could just go from like 100 to zero. And I think at the end we're kind of seeing she's not going to. Yeah, and I think so too. And I got a theory later on about like what Sylby's role is going to play. And it's something I think is extremely unexpected that when you look at the tapestry of Loki makes a lot of sense.

And it's actually going to help her live up to her villain nature in the comics where she's kind of based on the enchantress. I do just, I have to chime in on the pie scene real quick because I also want to point out that was a great companion to the other times when Mobius and Loki have truly bonded. The first time was when Loki was showing him the apocalypses and like throwing stuff like ruining his lunch. But then they had this wonderful conversation, I think it was in episode two as well last season, about free will, about the timekeepers being real and all this stuff that really set the theme for the entire season. And Brianna, I thought what you said was so brilliant and on point that that conversation and Dr. Strange also mirrors this. I mean, every multiverse story starts with what if? It's you wondering, what if I did this? What if I did?

There's Mr. Destiny. It's a wonderful life. All these movies have been made about that. And for Mobius to see that possibility and just be afraid, it's really vulnerable. And if you think about last season, he was angry. What if I had a jet ski? Like, he feels cheated. And now to see him retreat, he's such a great character.

And he was supposed to just be this, like, random TVA worker, you know, in season one. Do you guys think that they're doing a good job of, like, building on this season? Like, did you feel like from Loki, we're now getting, you know, the first episode last season, to be like well loki is a villain and in one episode they had to turn him into a kind of hero do you get the feeling he's a different guy now like has this is he the most dynamic marvel character briana um i think he's definitely up there i think that to basically go especially from 2012 loki who was like really villainous and really bitter like um very different from sort of like even the loki we see like later in like ragnarok um i think he's

definitely one of the most dynamic characters he's up there with like nebula for me in terms of, like, great arcs. And it's awesome to see him like this. And I really think it's... I think one of the most interesting things about his character now is, even though he's still kind of morally dubious, which I think is a lot of fun,

he is worried about the greater good. Like, that is his concern. It's this concern at the end of season one where he's like, what if he's right? Like, what if this is going to, like, cause a giant multiversal war and kill tons of people? And he's still worried about that,

which is not something that Avengers Loki would have been like he wanted to do that he says that he's like I threw a man off a building because my emotions got the better of me and so I think it's super cool to see this change and it didn't feel rushed to me like this feels very natural I haven't felt like oh they just kind of changed him really quick having like the buildup front of season one to now it works for me and I like that they like still kept him a little like mischievous like I like that it would have been I'm glad he didn't just become like a straight line more of a showman you know, putting the horns on the shadows,

even though he was the only person who could see the shadows. You know, there's little touches like that. And also, like, the first episode of the series, he says, I put on this show for people. You know, like, he kind of gets stripped down to his, like, base essential elements in a way. But you did touch on this thing about he cares about the timeline, the multiverse, which gets back to what Colton said,

about this being confusing. If you're watching this and you're confused, it's okay. This is very confusing. The sacred timeline is very confusing. We had to ask Mike, Screencrush had to ask Michael, Waldron, the writer of Loki season one, what the hell it even means? How could you have different variations and stuff like that? Colton, what I'm seeing here is the sacred timeline still exists and then all these branches come off of the sacred timeline. So technically they don't care

about maintaining the sacred timeline, but that root timeline, which is 616, has all these different ones splintering off from it. The interesting thing that I talked about in a social video, by the way, if you're not following us on socials, TikTok, Instagram, we always make videos on there that we don't post here on the YouTube channel. I did point out, though, that it does say 616 point for, and then number, number, number, number for all those other timelines, which probably means that 838 is a different timeline, you know? Like, that opens up a whole weird, confusing mess about things.

Which gets into what I want to talk about next is, is the damn show, is the multiverse saga too confusing? They've tried to do this visual aid for us to, like, show timelines as, like, white branches, and we saw the same visuals in Spider-Man Spider-Burts and No Way Home. But is it just too damn confusing, Brianna? Are people going to be able to follow this in Middle America? I think it is pretty confusing. I mean, some of it, I think, is overthinking.

It makes it worse. Like, I just kind of take what they're giving me, and I don't think too much about, like, the intricacies, because then I start to get really confused. I honestly, I don't know if anyone else has seen this, but, like, six days ago, Marvel Entertainment put out, like, a little graphic with Miss Minutes. It was like a little animated video with Miss Minutes and talking about how like you can

call the TVA to go fix these giant butterfly effects. I kind of want them to release something like that that's kind of like cute see and like seems in world. That's just like a very simple explanation of how it works, like like a three minute video. I feel like A, it would be just like cute promotion, but then it's like if you have any problems like understanding on it, like understanding it, you can just just go back and they're like, oh, here's this, like, little video, and it doesn't even necessarily need to be, like, in a show. Just, like, having that as a reference would be nice.

Or, honestly, even just, like, an actual printed version of, like, the TVA manual that explains it. The other, yeah, I love your suggestion about a Miss Minutes video, because the way they introduced, like, I keep thinking Loki season one, just how brilliant that season was in explaining these weird concepts. Having Miss Minutes explain variants and various timelines in the Multiversal War and animated form just worked so perfectly. So you know what? Maybe before Deadpool 3, which is going to be about the multiverse and incursions and things, we could even see a Miss Minutes video like recap in the audience on the multiverse. Because frankly, even like quantumania was still confusing, it's just because it's something that really doesn't exist except in like vague

possibilities that I think it is hard for people to latch on to. Colton, what about you? Are people too confused by this? Are America's mom's rioting? I don't think so. I think I have learned to accept that they are going to reveal what is important for us to know as far as how this stuff works. And really, when you look back at movies like Terminator and different time travel movies and stuff, those don't really make sense either if you put too much thought into it. So I think that could be maybe more of a me problem. What did you just say about Terminator? Terminator makes perfect sense.

Okay, sure. Perfect. Okay. Okay. Sorry. Finish whatever you were saying that doesn't matter anymore. God. All I meant was that I think as a fanboy, I guess, who does this for a living, I think I've been putting too much thought into, okay, well, if this is this, and that's a sacred timeline and these timelines are in this timeline, it gives me a headache, honestly.

So I'm kind of learning to just accept what they show in the show. show and go off of that and the million questions I could think of for how this links to that those are fun but eventually you have to just stop and accept okay they're going to let us know what we need to know and how that makes the story work and I you spoke of Deadpool 3 I do think Deadpool 3 is going to be a moment where maybe we can see this whole thing explained to Deadpool and maybe he can have like you know a lot of questions about okay but that doesn't make sense okay but that doesn't make sense and then I I think that would be a fun way to do it and introduce it to a more broad audience.

And I think even in Loki, they've broken the fourth wall a little bit with how, like, when OB explains to Loki, oh, you've got to do this and you need a temporal aura extractor and all that. Loki goes, yeah, like, obviously, it's really confusing. So it's like they've kind of accepted that. And I guess I'm going to as well. True. And like the first, really first two episodes, but especially the first episode, did a great job of setting us up for a lot of mysteries. Yeah, the first season was so much easier, I guess, to do this, because the first mystery was, well, who the hell is, what the hell is this place? Who the hell are these people? Who's behind the TVA? And this season has this huge challenge of building on that and creating more mysteries that tie into the Marvel Cinematic Universe without being bogged down by it in the way that, I don't know, maybe Quantumania was a little.

bogged down and trying to connect Kang to everything else instead of just making him a villain in that movie it certainly hurt our expectations of Kang in the future um so looking forward it's this has been the most fun theory crafting i've done for marvel since before quantum mania came out like i'm having a blast just guessing what's going to happen in the show do either of you have any fun theories for what you think is in store for season three i mean we've seen things in the trailers with victor timely and stuff but like what the hell is even going on here colton I have a fun idea that I'm kind of working on right now, but I can give it a little tease for it. I think that Loki, as we saw in his fight with Sylvie in the season one finale,

he disagreed with Sylvie's decision to kill He Who Remains. He wanted to hear that out a little more. So I am wondering if we could see Loki inadvertently wind back up on the villain side of the story and help King the Conqueror or Victor Timely or whoever ascends to become he who remains all out of him wanting to save the multiverse. He could say and try to explain, I could see, oh, I could see like a great scene of him trying to explain to his brother, like, I'm not the bad guy here. I'm really, I've changed and I'm trying to do what's right. I've seen things you don't understand. And I think it'd be cool to see Loki like inadvertently become kind of like

a henchman to Kang, sort of like he was to Thanos, but it's all out of a desire to now do the right thing. It's not out of like a selfish reason now. He's trying to do good. So I think maybe we could see that, and maybe in this season we'll get to see that fight come back up between Sylvie and Loki, because they never really resolved that. They still kind of seem to be on opposite sides of how to handle this. So I think maybe we could see a scene where Loki like snaps and throws in her face like hey if you hadn't killed him this wouldn't be happening right now so don't be mad at me or something like that brianne how about you is there do you have any theories going forward on what's going to happen or where you want to see it go um this might be kind of it might be kind of

out there and i almost like i'm almost nervous say it but i kind of wonder if obi's going to end up being a bad guy because we've talked multiple times about how this series will probably end up being kind of an Auroboros. And then we have a, it's like the first name, like the name of the first episode. And then we have a character whose name's literally Auroboris. And we've like been wondering, like, who told Docs? And Obie's like an interesting character because he actually doesn't really need to be from the future.

He knows what will happen. One of the things he says when they go down stairs is we're all going to die. He knows from the inside what will happen because he knows how the TVA works. So I kind of wonder if he's going to, like also thinking he's doing the right thing, but also try to like get back to the sacred timeline in order to save everybody so it doesn't like implode because he was already really struggling to retrofit the device. So the easier thing would be just get back to one timeline and there's no need for a new device.

And also he's been working on it for like a million years. So it is sort of his like life's work, even though I end up like lives are kind of weird in the TVA, but, you know, like, vaguely it's his life work, and he clearly really cares about it. So I don't think he wants to see it destroyed at all. Yeah, and we did see, you know, the vision of the future that the TVA is about to be destroyed in the future. But like you said, if it is a giant aura boris, and the future is the past, the past is the future. The interesting thing about OB is, he doesn't seem like his memory's been wiped. He remembers Mobius. Mobius doesn't remember him. So I wonder where that's going to come

into play if like he is the one who maybe like you said is a secret villain because he has like knowledge of the entirety of like this whole or a Boris loop I'm anxious to see the scene where Mobius meets OB like in the past I think we're still going to see that

in the show yeah I'm excited to see that well I want to thank both of you for joining me you have to follow Colton and Briano on socials everything is listed below but now I want to tell you about my theory for how this is going to end and how Sylvie can end up unlike the real villain of the show. So here's my theory.

Let's think about Sylvie for a second. She is now running away from her responsibilities. She's lived her entire life surrounded by death, and now she wants to live her life. I want to try everything. I get that. But we also saw the pain on her face when the timelines were being destroyed.

And the way she touched the one who remains tent pad at the end, it's like she's thinking of a plan. Now, Sylvie wants to be left alone, but she also wants to keep the timeline safe. She is a compassionate person who does not want anyone else to suffer. I mean, heck, look at the compassion she showed for her fellow variant B-15.

I looked happy. So I think Sylvie is forming a plan. Maybe she was even looking at the tent pad and realizing that she has the power to become the new He Who Remains. Loki told her that he time slipped. So now she realizes that this tent pad allows her to travel back in time

to the past or future TVA. Okay, sir, what does that mean? Bring it home. Well, I think she's going to use the tent pad to go into the future and save Loki because he told her that they will see each other in the future. And in the future, she will see the TVA being destroyed and she'll realize that she needs to protect the multiverse and to prevent the multiverse of war from ever happening. I mean, if her whole deal is protecting variants and variant timelines, then she wouldn't want to see all those different timelines go to war and destroy each other.

Instead, I think that Sylvie would think that she could run the TVA, but do it better. Remember, the TVA exists to make sure that there is ever only one variance of Kang the Conqueror, he who remains. But in Sylvie's new TVA, that would not be their mission. They would be attempting to make sure that no version of He Who Remains ever existed. That way, there could be a full multiverse without the multiversal war. But to do this, she would have to get rid of the TVA as it was. Erase it, Etch-Sketch style, so to speak. So, what's the one thing we know about all the TVA workers?

They are variants who have had their memories white. Exactly. But we've never seen Kang have the power to white people's minds. But Sylvie can. I think that Sylvie travels back in time to the past TVA. She defeats the Kang variant who is controlling it, And then she's going to wipe everybody's memories by enchanting them. But then Victor Timely, aka the Kang variant from the Quantum Mania post-credit scene,

is going to seize the TVA for himself. The recording in episode one... You are quite a lot. That was Victor Timely. So now Victor Timely will become He Who Remains, create the Timekeepers, and will ultimately set Sylvie on her path, because that path paves the way for Victor Timely. Remember, he who remains said this.

He paved the way for Sylvie, so Sylvie could pave the way for him. And he has done this like thousands of times before, like he said. Ah, yeah, nah, this whole thing is a circle, but not a real circle, more like a freaky circle. And I think that once Sylvie realizes what's happening that she's going to lose control of the TVA, she would be the person to warn Docs, but the warning would be incomplete. She wouldn't get to finish saying what happened at the end of time. She would just time slip or be erased from existence. And thanks again to MagicSpoon for sponsoring this video.

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