ScreenCrush: The Podcast! - Why is Hulk in Spider-Man: Brand New Day?

Episode Date: June 3, 2025

The Hulk is now rumored to be in Spider-Man: Brand New Day, along with low-level villains such as Tombstone and the Tarantula. We explain what the heck this movie is even about, and whether or not the Hulk appearing in the film is a good idea. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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And this is huge because the Hulk, and not Bruce Banner, but the Hulk... No banner, only Hulk. May be the only person on Earth, or the entire multiverse who remembers that Peter Parker is Spider-Man. And this is all connected to a place called the green door, a metaphysical barrier between the multiverse and its deepest layer, the below place, which we see here in Loki's tree. And this is all tied to the climactic multiversal battle that we will see unfold in doomsday

and Secret Wars and maybe even the introduction of Devil Hulk. Devil Hulk? Oh no. Yeah, it gets pretty nuts. And by the way, be sure to check out our merch store, Screencrushmerch.com, where we have lots of great Marvel-inspired parody merch designs up right now. Shopping our merch store is the best way to support our channel. And remember, we're also on every podcast platform that is in existence. Thank you so much for your support. Now, a little later, I'm going to be joined by my friends Cameron and Colton to get their thoughts on these reports and what it means for Spider-Man's role in the MCU going into Avengers Doomsday. And we're also going to talk about all the other Spider-Man brand-new day leaks that have come out, like the potential cast

in the villains and Sadie Sink, maybe as Spider-Girla, aka Peter Parker and Mary Jane's daughter from another universe. But first, I have some thoughts on Peter once again being in the shadow of an Avenger. See, one thing that I really liked about Spider-Man No Way Home was that it set Peter Parker and Spider-Man up to finally return to his roots, finally doing away with him essentially being Iron Man Jr. and instead becoming his own man. In Homecoming, there was Tony, and far from home, there was Nick Fury and Maria Hill, kind of. And in No Way Home, there was Dr. Strange, and of course, the other Spider-Men. It just feels like Tom Spider-Man has never got to be on his own. And now, here we are again, another Spider-Man movie featuring another

big Marvel hero as his mentor figure. With brand-new day being the title of the next film, I was really optimistic that they would follow the theme of that comic, which is New Beginnings, a return to his classic self, shedding a lot of the baggage that had been tacked on to Peter from the wider Marvel Cinematic Universe and all the crossover stories that came before it. In the comic that preceded Brand New Day, one more day, we saw Peter make a deal with Mephisto that resulted in the world forgetting he was Spider-Man and his relationship with Mary Jane being erased, which is basically what happened in No Way Home, laying the groundwork for the MCU Spider-Man to become a more traditional version of the character for his

next film. And I'm a little worried that that may not be the case with the rumors that the film is once again diving into the multiverse of it all, and now featuring yet another big Avenger. Just for once in your life, don't smash. However, there is some precedent for this in the comics. Despite the world forgetting Peter Parker with Spider-Man, one character didn't forget, and that character was the Hulk. Here, in Immortal Hulk Green Power, Hulk says that banner forgot, but he didn't. And we think this one panel is almost certainly going to be a driving force, behind Hulk's role in this film. It may even be the movie that sets up Bruce and the Hulk to return to being separate entities and gives us the triumphant return of our classic Green Rage Monster for Doomsday and Secret Wars.

So the MCU's take on the Hulk has always been a little messy. The Incredible Hulk is actually the second MCU film ever made, but with it starring Ed Norton, most people don't even realize or remember that that movie is technically MCU canon. Well, that is until Captain America Brave New World referenced it about 76 times in the span of two hours. She's still not speaking with you? They said he'd been infected with Bruce Banner's blood, but it didn't give him strength. It also resulted in the president's Alex estrangement from his daughter, Dr. Betty Ross. Now, I would argue that Ruffalo's version of the Hulk in those early first three Avengers movies, Anthur Ragnarok, gave us the best on-screen version of the Hulk ever, especially Age of Ultron.

Here around the store, we've had many conversations about how Age of Ultron is secretly like the greatest Hulk movie ever. ever made. But in Avengers Endgame, we saw Hulk get kind of nerfed. These are confusing times. Something we don't really hear mentioned all that often is the fact that Bruce has essentially banished the Hulk persona to the depths of his subconscious, which is kind of cruel considering we now know the Hulk himself has a completely separate personality and essentially a consciousness of his own. Bruce now has the body of the Hulk, but it's Bruce's mind entirely at the wheel. And poor Hulk is trapped in the shadows, perhaps even in literal hell, if they go

the same route as the comics. We may learn that Bruce's gleeful banishment of combining the brains and the brawn actually sent the Hulk's consciousness to the below place, which we'll explain here in a sec. Now, don't get me wrong, Professor Hulk is a fun character, but I'm ready to get back to the Green Rage Monster Hulk, a Hulk so dangerous that in the comics, the Illuminati decided they need to blast him into space because he was such an uncontrollable threat. Endgame's take on the Hulk, which continued into the Shehawk series, just isn't the Hulk that I personally am interested in seeing. And I think his days are numbered, and the return of the True Hulk is coming. But first, I want to hear what Colton and Cam think about this news.

All right, I am so happy to be joined here by two of my favorite people. We have Cameron Caskey, the intern I fire in every video and Colton Ogburn, the guy who's trapped in our television, but doesn't know it, so please don't tell him. So guys, you've heard our thoughts on the Hulk and the Hulk casting, things like that, and him is a villain. I do want to just briefly go over some other casting rumors. I don't know if you guys have heard this. Some of this comes from Daniel RPK. Some of this just comes from scraping Google. But this is like a brief rundown. right? There are rumors and reports, I think these are from RPK, that say that it will feature a trio of street-level villains, Scorpion, Boomerang, and Tombstone, which is very cool because we did

see Scorpion set up in Homecoming. So Spider-Man starts off the movie as a ground-level hero. That would be really cool. There's also rumors that we talked about the Hulk as the main, sorry, Savage Hulk as the main villain, and Tarantula and Lady Camillion, which would be, maybe they're doing lady camillian to separate to distance themselves from camera as much as possible. And there's also a rumor that Liza Colin Zayez might be playing Rio Morales, which could set up, again, Miles Morales in the MCU. We already had a tease because Uncle Aaron and mentioned he had a nephew. Um, so we know that little Miles was out there running around, but hell, that movie came out in 2017. So even if Miles was blipped, you know, he's got to be getting at least into his teen years by now. And also there's

rumors of Mr. Negative. And the big rumor that I haven't mentioned yet is that stranger thing. Sadie Sink was reportedly cast for a role. I don't remember if that was confirmed or not. Do you guys know if that was confirmed casting? I believe they've confirmed Sadie Sink. But the scoopers have also brought us rumors that Sadie Sink will be playing every single character in the history of the world. People are saying she's going to play Firestar from Spider-Man and his amazing friends, everybody's favorite cartoon from back in the day that very few people remember. Boy, they are just desperate to get mutants in. And how dare you besperch the name of Spider-Man and his amazing friends.

Yeah, what the hell? Cameron, I come from a wilderness that is separate from comic book properties existing on multiple levels. From the time you left your mother's apron strings, you have been able to have access to animated shows galore comic books. I grew up in hell. I grew up in a trailer park where there was no comic book material except for maybe on a rainy day we could get Channel 19 and watch Spider-Man and his amazing friends and Aunt May's adorable dog Miss Lyons. So that would be amazing casting for her. Well, have you also seen the rumors that she is going to be playing Mary Jane Watson? Because I have seen all over the internet people saying Sadie Sink has been cast in Spider-Man. And we have it

from some reporters, some scoopers, say she's playing Mary Jane Watson. Now, you know, this is considering we have Zendaya as MJ Watson, but no, no, no, no. Sadie Sink is apparently going to play Mary Jane Watson, a totally different... No, they never gave her the last name Watson, did they? Yeah, they gave MJ from the MCU. Michelle Jones Watson, I assumed, now this is the other thing about this movie. By the way, the only leaker I pay attention to is Daniel RPK, right? Because like the guy's pretty much always right.

When he's not, he apologizes and admits it, unlike some leakers I know out there who claim that they're right, even when James Gunn says they weren't. I, I, you know, with Sadie Sink, he's talked about the multiverse, right? Like, okay, they were, we were saying, oh, we hope it's a grounded movie. And then it's, oh, I hope it's not a multiversal movie. And then they're like, they wanted to be a multiversal movie so they can have Toby and Andrew back and make a billion dollars. If that's the case, Colton, you got to admit, she'd be pretty cool as May Day Parker. Yeah, she'd be a great May Day Parker.

There is no way in hell they replace a black actress in Zendaya, her MJ, with this, you know, traditional looking Mary Jane. I would, oh my God, if they did that, I would be on a rampage for. months at how like in poor taste i don't really see the world through that lens i never even considered it that way that's true it would be it would be the savage colton no i that's the rumor that i've seen that's the rumor that i've seen the most is that uh she'll be playing mayday parker which you know again sort of makes me say what a lot of people are saying which is okay enough of the multiverse we're all good we just got a spider man multiverse movie as a matter fact we just got three and if uh into the spider verse three ever comes out we'll have four

A May Day Parker, by the way, who, if they do it, should be the daughter of Toby McGuire's Spider-Man, I would say, right? Of course, yeah, I always assumed. And they never, he wasn't, believe me, I looked. He wasn't wearing a wedding ring in no way home, but he did say that he and Mary Jane were making it work. Well, I think that he is married, but when he found himself in a new universe, he was like, hey, you know, I'm here and he, like, slipped the ring into his pocket. Like, I think that's what was going. You think he was maybe looking to get some multiverse action and she was like. cheat on Mary Jane while he was in the Supreme Court of

McGuire. Anyway, were you about to say it's not cheating if it's with Sadie Singh's bar with Sidney's bar of soap? Is that what you were going to say? I was going to say it's not cheating if it's with another Mary Jane, but then I remember the other Mary Jane as a minor and then it just, it derailed. Oh, wow, man. This whole thing

has really, really, really gone off the rails. Can we talk for a second about the Hulk, right? So, Colton, I know you have thoughts on this. I just reiterated a lot of your thoughts at the start of this video. I love the idea that the Hulk remembers, and what I like most about this is the MCU hasn't really known what to do with the Hulk, right? He is kind of a one-dimensional villain. I think with like Iron Man, they did a really cool thing where they gave us the heads-up display. So even though he didn't have a face, we were always able to see Tony Stark, but there was never an

equivalent to show the dual identities of Bruce Banner and the Hulk. You know, maybe like, you know, we talked about the below and all that stuff, maybe we could see a place that's like when, on Stranger Things when 11 would reach out to people's minds and they're in that black void. You know, we could see something like that that would maybe visualize their conflict a little bit. What are your guys' thoughts on that? And, you know, that's the thing about the Hulk in the MCU is Marvel Studios has kind of been forced to get creative with how they tell the Hulk story because they cannot do a Hulk movie. I think it's universal that has the, like, the release rights.

Like, Marvel can make a Hulk movie, but they can't distribute a Hulk movie. and it's all up in the, you know, it's tied up in the legal, legal, legal. But so I think that has put them in an interesting situation where they have to tell the Hulk story and other films. And to your point about, yes, I want to see him like in this void within his mind

because something that I feel like they've really gotten away from with the Hulk character is that Jekyll and Hyde, like tragic story that is the Hulk that I think they really got into with Age of Ultron and then just kind of abandoned. So I kind of hope that, that they could get back to that, maybe brand new days to start to that? Well, Cam, remember, Infinity War originally had an ending where Hulk did have a, he and Banner came to a,

they had an argument at the end of Infinity War, and then we saw Smart Hulk appear on screen. So they did kind of relegate that to the background. And the comics, it's a lot more complicated. Like, all of the personalities were combined, but then it turns out that you can't do that, so it just Doc Sampson created a new personality. Like, they really dive into the psychology of the Hulk, but we haven't seen much of that. in the MCU to Colton's point. I don't care.

I don't care. I don't give a shit. Let me tell you guys something. Tom Holland, he's a great actor. I think he's excellent in the role of Spider-Man. I like all three of the live-actors. Hey, Cam, real quick, before you get into your point,

I thought it would be hilarious if you said, I don't give a shit, and then just talked about climate change for the rest of the video. Where do you think I'm going with that? I can't wait to see. A different kind of green rage monster. If the snap had stayed, the carbon footprint of the MCU would be...

No, listen to me, all of you. I'm looking right into the fucking camera. I don't... You have robbed Tom Holland of a Spider-Man movie for a really long time. People on Reddit like to call Henry Cavill's Superman

potential man, because every time people talk about how great a Superman he would be, it's always like... So true. No, no, no, no. Once he gets to start acting like Superman, then it's going to be really good

and everything. It's like, okay, well, that never happened. Tom Holland is the greatest potential Spider-Man I've ever seen. The thing is, He's never gotten to really do his Spider-Man thing because he's always got to share it with somebody else. He's even got to share it with other fucking Spider-Man who have already gotten their Spider-Man movie. Which is also true, yeah.

We just saw what happens when you Hulkify the movie of a Marvel character who deserves their own movie. We just saw it with Captain America, Brave New Hulk. And I don't want to see it. Everybody talks about how they want Tom Holland's movie to be a street-level Spider-Man. They want a back-to-basics, regular Spider-Man and everything. And I think it's important to address that, wow, that is. the obvious thing to say, and it feels almost like cliche at this point, sometimes things are obvious for a reason. It's called Occam's Razor. It's the theoretical principle that the simplest

explanation for something could very well be the likeliest explanation because it requires the least amount of speculation. So if you ask somebody who their favorite movie villain is and they say Joker from Dark Knight or Darth Vader, and you go, okay, well, that's the obvious answer. It's like, yeah, well, it's the obvious answer because they're two of the best fucking villains ever made. So yeah, It's obvious for me to say that I want to see a Spider-Man movie that's a fucking Spider-Man movie. But unfortunately, I guess we have to keep saying it because I don't want to watch Spider-Hulk. I want to watch Tom Holland deal with the consequences of the last movie. And I'll tell you why.

I'll tell you why Hulk is in it and why every Spider-Man movie has had Dr. Strange, Nick Fury, Iron Man. It's not Marvel. It's not Figey. When they made the deal to have Spider-Man join the MCU back in like 2015, 2016, part of the deal in the contract. I think this was even in, it wasn't in the Sony leagues, but it's been revealed, it's been

nearly a decade. But no, I know what you're going to say, but yeah. It is that yes, Spider-Man gets to be in Avengers movies, but Sony's cut of that deal is they get to have Avengers in their Spider-Man movies. That was part of the appeal. Especially at that time

when the Spider-Man IP and the films weren't in a great place, part of what got Sony excited and got them to take that deal was, hey, we get to have MCU characters be in our Spider-Man movies. And I feel like that is just part of the contract, and they're taking advantage of, hey, it says here when we make a Spider-Man movie with Marvel Studios, we get to put an Avenger in here. And I think that this is all just part of that. Yeah, but look, just to come back to my little rant earlier, there was a time when you youngsters were still in high school

when we were excited for these things, right? When, like, the idea of getting to see Iron Man in a movie or Doctor Strange with Spider-Man was super keen and cool. And I just can't help but notice how with you guys, everything's always just like, I'm tired of that. The pendulum's always swinging back and forth. Maybe he doesn't need to be the focus of it, but I think it's a fun idea.

They never got to interact in any other movies. Isn't it funny how just 10 years ago we were all chomping at the bit for Spider-Man to be in the MCU and now for the Spider-Man 4, we're like, can we please just have him be by himself, which is exactly what it was 10 years ago. There's no consistent narrative for the Hulk world in the MCU. The Hulk story seems to move around in circles where Bruce Banner is in his relationship with the Hulk. There's no progression that makes me say, gee, I want to know what's next for the Hulk.

Whereas look, if you want to shoehorn in another character, I would like it to be someone who I'm interested in seeing what's next for them. I know that this person doesn't have nearly the same draw as the Hulk, and I'm not suggesting that they do. But Shuri, if Shuri, the new Black Panther was in the new Spider-Man movie, I'd go, oh, my God, well, these two science nerds, they must have so much to say together. I like that less. I don't, finish your point, but I'm not as into that.

I guess I just want something that can exist adjacent to the narrative propulsion of Peter Parker's story, and I feel as though putting in an event who he's already shared the screen with is a step backwards, not a step forward. And if it's going to be a brand new day, I would like it to feel like a new day where we're not just playing the fucking greatest hits again. I'm right there with you, Cam, on, yes, I want him, Tom,

to just have his own movie, to your point earlier, that he's always overshadowed by another character or even other Spider-Man. Yes, I completely agree with you. But to push back a little bit, they actually, I guess they've technically shared the screen, like in that wide shot of endgame, like when they're all running, but we have not seen Spider-Man and the Hulk interact. So I will say as a fanboy of, you know, Marvel Comics and remembering

like reading, you know, Spider-Man and the Hulk actually interacting and stuff, it will be kind of exciting to actually see that happen on screen. I just, I'm with you that I wish that was in like an Avengers film where it belongs instead of overshadowing, overshadowing Marvel. And if this turns out of savage us, right? Imagine if Peter Parker had an intelligent person who's sort of like a mentor to him, who's like an adult figure in his life that's associated with the color green and loses control of an inner thing in his head

and turns into wait a fucking second. We've actually seen that in every single Spider-Man movie ever, forever. The thing that gets me about this, right? It's not, for me, it's not like, oh, cool, cool cameo. With all of these, we've had a mix between whether or not these Marvel team-ups did a good job establishing the plot or establishing Spider-Man's like just his character arc in the movie. So Tony Stark's a perfect foil for the first one because Tony Stark is learning to be a mentor,

Peter needs to be mentored, and Peter Parker in the comics, ever since the death of Uncle Ben, has always sought out older mentor figures. It's just they always end up being supervillain, so he's forced to learn to grow up on his own. So that was kind of a fun, new dynamic, getting to see Peter's mentor figure be Tony Stark. It made sense for Nick Fury to be in the next movie because he was also that kind of a little bit tougher mentor figure, forcing Peter out of his comfort zone, telling him, hey, you're going to have to be a hero first. Dr. Strange was just there for plot mechanics, right? And it was fun watching, you know, Peter get knocked his astral form, all that stuff. But really, it was just for the plot. There was no other

way to have those different elements come together. So with Bruce Banner, you know, you're right. We've seen Green Goblin stuff like that in other movies. But with Bruce Banner, we have a brilliant scientist who was a friend with Tony Stark. So I could definitely see, but he doesn't, you know, necessarily remember that. So there's this, oh, Dr. Banner, I've read your paper. There's that kind of thing we can do. But then, if we're right, and if he does, the Hulk does remember Peter Parker, that's going to be amazing for Peter because he's got one person who he can actually talk and relate to. It just so happens that one person has the mind of a baby.

And I think that sounds like a fun story. I don't know where that leads him plot-wise. I would rather see that grounded street movie where they fight the kingpin and shit. But, you know, whatever. Yeah. And you know what I think would be a great emotional story to tell that, you know, brings a lot of the themes maybe into this, including the themes of identity and responsibility and everything.

No, I don't. I would love to see Peter trying to reconcile with an MJ who doesn't even remember him and basically try to get her to fall in love with him all over again and figure out how to communicate to her. Like, hey, we were kind of in love with each other in the past, but something crazy happened. Trust me, you love me.

And she's like, what the fuck are you talking about? That's the plot of the 1990 Jim Balushi René Russo film, Mr. Destiny. Go on. But the problem is, while he's trying to get back his lost love, who doesn't really remember who he is, a couple assassins, let's say Scorpion and Boomerang and somebody like Craven the Hunter, although I doubt they'll be touching him with the 20-foot pole for a very long time. Let's say a crime boss like Mr. Negative, because apparently they can't use the kingpin, wants Spider-Man off the map. He can't put up with this Spider-Man guy anymore. So he hires some assassins to take him down, and Spidey has to... avoid a hit on him from a bunch of different people.

And the assassins are fighting each other too because they're the one who wants to take home that I killed Spider-Man bag. That sounds fine. And he has to figure out, like, is it worth dragging MJ into this mess again? But also, she's the person I love. And also people love watching Tom Holland and Zendaya together. And they're getting married. Boom.

Spider-Man movie. I don't care about the fucking Hulk. I thought Cam was going to say that he wanted a romantic story between Spider-Man and the Hulk, playing like hide the zucchini or something if we have to do Hulk I would man that that is one line that haunts, one of many lines that haunts age of Ultron it didn't sound

good when Robert Downey Jr. delivered it. It sounded even worse when I said it just now. That was yeah that was just and that's no fault to you. I mean that's on Joss Whedon for writing that line. It's not the worst thing he's ever done. Can I add something to Cam's point and kind of what you started the conversation with Ryan and we kind of got off of it

is the other villains that are being reported. I saw a tweet the other day that said, what three villains do you want to see in the next Spider-Man movie? And I'm like, I don't want three villains in the next Spider-Man movie. Put one villain. I am so tired. One villain who challenges Peter Central theme that he's going through in that movie. And they, I would take three villains over one other hero.

I don't know. I like the Marvel team-up aspect of it. I just don't think the team-up aspect needs to overshadow what Peter goes through. And in that way, No Way Home, which is my least favorite of these new movies, at least he didn't overshadow Peter Strzhan. What did you think of Hulk being in this same position in Thor Ragnarok? I thought that worked really well. What do you mean, same position?

Well, it's not his movie. It's a solo movie for Thor. It's a Thor movie, but the Hulk was there as like a supporting character. Yeah, and he does a good job of propelling forward to Thor's arc in that movie, which is about confronting the much. monstrosity within yourself, right? Or in this case, in Asgard and his own potential to rule with a hammer, to build, to build or to destroy with this hammer. But you have to realize, these aren't, while I do believe it worked, and I think that Ragnarok is a great Marvel movie, it's not like

it was decisions about character and story that made that happen. It was, oh, we can't do, not World War Hulk, we can't do Planet Hulk, but, you know, we can fit into Ragnarok doing the gladiator Hulk scene and have Hulk fight Thor. And the rule of cool, you know, turned that into a touchdown and made it pretty sick. But Thor and Hulk, they do this thing where they could punch each other, and you don't always know which one of them is going to punch harder because they're Thor and Hulk. Whereas like, oh, my God, guys, we get to watch Spider-Man conveniently web up the right thing to make sure that the Hulk gets webbed at the right time.

But that's not what's watched a not-hulk by the Hulk. And the comics, whenever, especially the early comics, when Spider-Man goes up against the Hulk, you know he's screwed like there's this great and same thing when he fights the juggernaut or when he fought fire lord you know Galactus is Harold

you always know he's in so much trouble and I love the dynamic of Peter no suit no iron suit having to try to figure out how to take this guy down in the streets of New York you know where everybody he loves lives I think it's a fun dynamic and they could tie it into all this other stuff

we talked about before I hope he's in a cloth suit and maybe if they look and depending on the doomsday and stuff like that Like, I don't know, man. I don't know if this is going to be a battle world or what the hell they're doing. But it is the perfect opportunity for him to get exposed to a venom-sambiate and go,

ooh, this will help me defeat the Hulk. So there's that aspect of it too. If the movie can be about Peter confronting his own darkness, right, his own inner darkness, his own temptation to, I need to do more, I need to do more, right? The temptation at the end of No Way Home was, I want revenge. Now it could be a temptation simply knowing that he's not enough. Without all this dark stuff, he feels like he's not enough and he needs more, but then confronting that same dark.

with the Hulk who is somebody else who is at war with his own dark side. I think it could fit them out. I'm more interested in figuring out and watching a story about identity. Because if you're the only person in the world who remembers who you are, people know Spider-Man, but they don't know you. It's very easy for Peter Parker to get into a situation where he's more Spider-Man than Peter Parker. And that's something we've had to see Peter deal with before, but, you know... In the comics, especially, it's been great.

But also... Well, and not so great. That was what led to the... Also, the... And I think that fits into my fucking fan-fick. fanfic that I just dropped you guys where one of the ways that you believe that word every time you were being so tough on the editors right now I'm so sorry my that's okay no no no no no no apology necessary well you know fuck the editors that's what I have to say about this fits into my

fan pick which is like maybe Peter is going way too hard on the Spider-Man stuff I mean obviously not while Kingpin is taking over the city he was on a sabbatical at that point but Peter's going so hard on the Spider-Man stuff and it is the thought of MJ and Ned that makes him feel like Peter again, and he has to choose between prioritizing love and his other responsibilities, whatever. It's just like, I don't need to see the Hulk. I just watched a bunch of Hulk's take a what could have been a very interesting movie about Sam Wilson and turn it into a sequel to a movie that came out when I was seven,

and I don't need to see it again. There you go, bringing up your age. It's not the Incredible Hulk's fault that you were seven years old when it came out. We do got to leave it there, guys. Cameron, Colton, thank you guys so much for joining me. Cameron, of course, you're fired. You can find Cameron and Colton's social links below. But now, let's really dive into this theory about what we think can actually happen with these guys in this movie. Okay, so while Hulk being rumored for brand new day is a little concerning from a Spider-Man standpoint,

since I really want Spidey to get his own story without the need for other heroes holding his hand, this report does have me pretty excited for the prospects of a truly awesome and eerie story from the comics, connecting the Hulk to Marvel's Hell and the villain, the one below all. In the Immortal Hulk, Green Power, which takes place after one more day and brand new day, we learned that the Hulk was not affected by Mephisto's spell. This is because he was cast away into the depths of Bruce's mind. But here's where it gets trippy. Hawks or any gamma mutates like Shehawk, Red Hawk, the Abomination, etc.,

they all have access to something called the Green Door, a barrier between the living world and the deepest layer of hell, the below place. In the comics, Immortal Hawk was able to remember Peter with Spider-Man, because Mephisto's spell did not reach the depths of the multiverse where Hulk's mind resided. And the same will likely be true for the MCU version of the Hulk. With Bruce having played a role in helping with the multiversal time machine and end game, and with brand new day being a key part of the Multiverse saga and the final film before Avengers Doomsday, I wouldn't be surprised if we learned that Bruce has been experimenting with multiversal theory and could perhaps even

discover this green door and gamma connection to the very fabric of the multiverse. And this discovery of the green door could be how the mind of the Hulk is able to return from his eternal damnation and rejoin the realm of the living. And he may even be pissed that he was banished by Banner in the first place. And this could lead to us finally getting a villainous Hulk like Maestro. Pune Banner died a long time ago. There's only the Maestro now. We could even see Hulk become a member of Doom's team, considering Tony Stark always had an admiration for the Hulk and often poked and prodded to get him out. Ow!

Hey! Nothing? If Doctor Doom has an angry Hulk on his side, he'll be near impossible to defeat, making the Avengers battle to save the Multiverse from Doom's rule all the more challenging. But those are just our thoughts and theories on what Hulk's role in brand new day could mean for the Multiverse Saga and Doom's Day in Secret Wars. Let us know your thoughts down to the comments below or at me on Twitter, Blue Sky Threads, or on our free to join Discord server.

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