Scuffed | USMNT, World Cup, Yanks Abroad, futbol in America - #524: Champo & Eredivisie kick off, Tyler's coach search comments

Episode Date: August 12, 2024

Vince, Watke and Belz talk through the latest on the coaching search, why it seems so difficult for USSF to find a good MNT coach, why it's been possible for global men's basketball to close the gap w...ith American basketball faster than American men's soccer has been able to close the gap with global men's soccer, Tyler Adams' comments about what's needed from a new coach, the Championship and Eredivisie kick off and Belz gets to talk about Ledezma, plus much more.The Monday Review crew is traveling to the Netherlands and Germany (and maybe Belgium) this October to see American footballers play with their clubs on location, eat good food and fellowship with one another. The trip will be similar to the one we took to northern Italy in the spring, a smashing success. The right of first refusal goes to Scuffed patrons, but whether you're a patron or not, if you are even a little interested in going on the trip with us, please fill out this form and we will follow up with you soon: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScqLmFLm4RHJoMrT6NHsWEeh0wLPhlqfXfAduEbJTGiga0Mzg/viewform Skip the ads! Subscribe to Scuffed on Patreon and get all episodes ad-free, plus any bonus episodes. Patrons at $5 a month or more also get access to Clip Notes, a video of key moments on the field we discuss on the show, plus all patrons get access to our private Discord server, live call-in shows, and the full catalog of historic recaps we've made: https://www.patreon.com/scuffedAlso, check out Boots on the Ground, our USWNT-focused spinoff podcast headed up by Tara and Vince. They are cooking over there, you can listen here: https://boots-on-the-ground.simplecast.comAnd check out our MERCH, baby. We have better stuff than you might think: https://www.scuffedhq.com/store Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 From the USSF approved territories of Georgia and Kentucky, and also from the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia, this is the Monday Review. The boys are back to work in Europe. The championship kicked off this weekend, so did the Air Divisi. Friendlies are being played by everyone else. How y'all doing? Vince, how are you? I'm doing great, man.
Starting point is 00:00:26 Olympics have concluded. They went out with a bang. Most importantly, to my heart, specifically, men's basketball. another gold. We get the doubt or silence for really another week, another two weeks or something before people start talking about how Europeans are taking over basketball, et cetera, et cetera. Once again, but we will always be there
Starting point is 00:00:55 to beat them back with that stick, to thwart them whenever they challenge us, in the Olympics specifically, just the Olympics. We do not, we as Americans that created in the game have not properly sanctioned the FIBA World Cup as an official event. It's not a real tournament, frankly. It's not a real tournament in our eyes. And we are the ones that legitimize any basketball competition that's held on planet Earth. So, once again, we are world champs, and I'm happy to see it. So I'm doing great.
Starting point is 00:01:32 That was crazy. That was crazy. It was the third or the fourth three-point? Yeah, the fourth. In that, the fourth one, it's just a terrible shot. But, man. I was happy I got to. What a plan.
Starting point is 00:01:48 Happy I got to witness it, man. Never forget where I was in that moment, seeing that moment, put on a show in France against the French. Nothing better, man. Yeah. Our women also won a gold medal, too, women's soccer team. That's right. Greg and I'll get to recap in that tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Waki, how are you? I'm doing very well, Adam, coming off, going through this Olympics glow right now, excited to get back to work every week, watching all these soccer games. Yeah. Really getting into it with you guys. Before we get into the games, because there's a few lots of things happened, What's going on with the men's national team coaching search? Okay, so the new coach talk has shifted fully to Pocitino.
Starting point is 00:02:47 That's the headline. That's what's going on. Since we last spoke, I think it's maybe shifted to maybe five or six different coach who were the presumptive coach. This one seems real, though. This time it seems real, and I really believe that we're going to get Pachitino. Tenorio reported that he is our top target. And he hasn't been reporting all these other ones.
Starting point is 00:03:12 There's something there. I guess I wonder if him being the top target, which I believe because Tenorio reported it, means that he'll actually agree to the job. You know? It seems to be the tricky part of it that we had not maybe accounted for in this coaching search. I mean, we should have accounted for it, considering the last coach and search that we went through that ended up with us hiring Greg Burrhalter once again. Which, by the way, I'm not ruling that out as what could happen here. Bring back Burrhalter.
Starting point is 00:03:54 You know. Imagine if that happened. People took that. That would be amazing. I mean, it truly would be crazy. I mean, the ultimate can't kill this guy. You know, I mean, like, like, Chucky level. Persistence.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Junkyard Greg. Don't count him out. Don't sell your Greg stock, everyone. What's the name of the Chucky movies? I'm definitely. Do you know Bells? Aren't they just called Chucky? Are they called Child's Player or something at first?
Starting point is 00:04:32 You know, I don't know any of this stuff. Come on. Why are you asking me that? Yeah. People took us hiring Greg a second time, right, as a sign of the Fed's ineptness, a sign of our incestuous relationship with MLS continuing to fester, etc., etc., etc. When, I mean, maybe it's just that, you know, whatever the exact opposite of sexy is, the U.S. Men's National Team job is that. I saw somebody post the meme, you know, the meme of the four dragons, and then there's like the three really scary-looking dragons, and the one who looks silly. And it was U.S. men's basketball, U.S. women's basketball, U.S. women's soccer,
Starting point is 00:05:21 and then the silly one was, of course, U.S. men's soccer. And we don't talk about the women's national team a bunch on this podcast, on the Monday Review, but Emma Hayes obviously, an outstanding hire. Like, the Fed got that right. Everything about her is, at least in my opinion, is admirable. Like, her press conferences are amazing, even.
Starting point is 00:05:47 So how can we get that so right and be so slack-jawed when it comes to men's national team stuff? Well, maybe it's just really simple that it's easy to get a good coach for a program that's won a bunch of major tournaments and not for a program. that nobody really thinks of as even a contender for a major tournament, you know?
Starting point is 00:06:09 I mean, the women's team manager job, is that the biggest job? Yes. In the sport, literally. Yes. Like, there is no club job bigger than this, as evidenced by the manager of Chelsea leaving to come here. And if you want to say Bars is bigger than the U.S. women's national team, I beg to differ. their coach who has done an excellent job at Barcelona left there to come to the NWSL,
Starting point is 00:06:36 to the lowly NWSL in the eyes of the Europeans. So yes, without a doubt, 100% the biggest job in women's soccer is the U.S. Women's National Team coach. And you compare that to the U.S. men's national team where, you know, you have every top five job in the, every top five job, top five league job is bigger than the U.S.
Starting point is 00:07:00 Smith's national team, as evidenced by our own countryman, Pellegrino, Matarazzo, turning us down for Hoffenheim. You know what I'm saying? Not Bayern Munich, not Dortmund, not Leverkusen, not Frankfurt, Hoffenheim. Okay, a small village
Starting point is 00:07:17 as I think Hoffenheim is. My Germans, y'all let me know, but I think it's not some booming metropolis. Yeah, it's an interest. It's a small town with a very rich, guy who started the club, right? The founder of S&P.
Starting point is 00:07:34 So it is what it is. And to bring that back to Potch, I've seen people saying, like, I've seen people turning their nose up at Pachitino. And I'm like, yo, what, what? If we could get Potch, I mean, that would be, I'd be,
Starting point is 00:07:52 I'd be over the moon. You know? Yeah, there's no nose turning up for us. at this point. We have to be realistic. I am a little bit miffed at Reno. That's what Pellegrino goes by. It's the first name because I was so sure he was going to do it. I started to learn all about him.
Starting point is 00:08:16 And then to have him. And my question is, should we possibly hold this against him a little bit as a people? Or where are we at with that? I think maybe we should. didn't have got excited in the first place for because because none of this was uh none of this came from him none of it even none of the rumors even came from our our heavy hitters on this side you know no uh the people that have been plugged into the scotcha search right you mentioned
Starting point is 00:08:50 no polly t wasn't sending out any ars not those mentioned polly t it's on us you're absolutely right um after paultonoria reported the pot the posh the posh thing dug McIntyre, I think, confirmed it and released his own story as well on it. So the two people that have been plugged in, Pauly T, Dove McIntyre, nothing came from our side. It was some German publications. It wasn't kicker, you know what I'm saying? It was an also-ran German publication that came out and said, hey, maybe Pellegrino would be interested in the Mid-National team.
Starting point is 00:09:29 We ran with it because we are desperate. and I would have been extremely happy to have him. But yeah, he himself has not given us any inclination that he would leave, you know, Hoff and Hyman come take the Miznatch team job. And you know what? I think we need to give Mr. Derek Ray some credit where credit is due him because he was quashed in this thing.
Starting point is 00:10:01 from the gym. It was. It was. And we could say what we want about Derek Ray and how sometimes his reporting can be misleading, et cetera. But, you know, when he comes out and says something like this on some news, like, you know, this is hard concrete news. This is rumors he's hearing about who may or may not start the upcoming week. It's like, okay, Derek Ray, if you come out and said that with your chest, who am I to go against you? I mean, you plugged in, man.
Starting point is 00:10:30 You'd have but to see a guy. And so your issue with him is his reporting. Mine is that he pronounce his name so well. I think it's too much. Let's just say... You would think it's too much. Let's just say, like, why do I... No humans expect other people to pronounce...
Starting point is 00:10:53 He's just setting a good example. I'm going to back on... You know, if he were coming at us saying, you're doing a bad job pronouncing names, then I would maybe push back. But I actually think it's good to have Derek. Kray out there doing setting example and doing a job of it. So that's a full reversal by me there is what I was going to back you up a little bit
Starting point is 00:11:12 where different languages pronounce things differently. So I think you may take it a little far, Chris. I was talking to a person from Germany. They came over to me and they're talking with a German accent. And then suddenly they say my name, Chris Russell. I would be unsettled by that. They would be making fun of you, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:35 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Fair point. I got a question and maybe a take that might annoy you, Vince. But why is it, let me lead in, let me get into it. Why is it that the, no, I agree the rest of the world hasn't caught up with us on basketball. But the rest of the world is closer.
Starting point is 00:11:59 Would you agree the world, the rest of the world, the rest of the world, the rest of the world is closer to us in basketball than we are to the rest of the world in soccer, on the men's side, obviously. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why is that? Why is that? That's a good question. Well, part of it, they only need, don't need as many guys.
Starting point is 00:12:21 Don't need as many guys. It's an easier game to play, just in general, right? It's a lot easier to catch a ball, shoot a ball, pass a ball, et cetera, than it is to, I mean, even controlling the soccer ball, literally doing anything with it is, I think it's a little bit harder than the basic basketball skills, which are past shoot, dribble. Easier game to teach. Like Waki said, you don't need as many guys. I don't know, man. I don't, I think the main thing is just, it's easier.
Starting point is 00:13:02 Easier to teach. Easier to play. Here's another, and maybe another part of it could be, soccer has been played since, maybe like twice as long as basketball. Yeah. It's less of a head start. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Yeah. I thought I was going to, I thought I was going to annoy you, Vince, by saying that it's an easier sport than soccer, but you just said it yourself, so. Oh, I hold no... I'm gonna tell you how it is, man.
Starting point is 00:13:37 I mean, like, for instance, me being a college football player, I will tell you all day, football is a very easy sport to play. It's not easy, it's not for everybody to do. Yeah. But it's an easy sport to play. Right, if you have the physical tools,
Starting point is 00:13:55 you can... The basic skills are quite rudimentary, for the most part, other than, like, playing, if you're playing quarterback, or something. It gets complicated if you play a chord. Obviously.
Starting point is 00:14:07 There are sometimes I'll see Steph Curry do something that I think that doesn't seem that easy. No, it definitely doesn't. Right. As you get up into it, of course, of course. It becomes more and more difficult. But like, you know, the professional standard for being a good three-point shooter, for instance, is to make them 40% of the time. You know, like, like, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:14:32 It's just soccer's so multidimensional, you know? There's just so many things going on. And it's not just the number of players on the field. But it is that, too. But man, it's like, it's hard to imagine. It's almost impossible to imagine the United States being able to put 20 players on the feet, like an 18-player roster together that is equal to an Argentina or Brazil roster in our lifetimes. Not impossible, almost impossible.
Starting point is 00:15:02 it's a lot easier to get like eight guys who are tall, who can shoot the three, who understand how to do a pick and roll. And so that's another thing. And that's another thing about it is like the physical matter so much in basketball. Right? Where like in soccer, the physical, I mean, it's an important 20, 25%, but it's only 20, 25%. Like, of course, basketball is a very skilled game. But once again, the skill.
Starting point is 00:15:32 are easy. They don't have to be innate. Like, people can, they don't have to be innate. You know, we talked about a final third gene, right, when we were recapping the France game or whatever and how a lot of people come in with it and they leave with it. You don't see a lot of people develop things. Basketball, I mean, you see people develop stuff all the time. Yonis Senta-Cupo came into the league, extremely raw, unable to do like any of the things you see him doing now. And now he's able to do them.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Why? Because the skills aren't that, they're just not that hard to teach, flat out. Like you can develop into a three-point shooter in your 20s. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, all that stuff that you can't necessarily teach. Like, man, if you can trap, control, pass the ball at 18, man, it's going to be tough. It's going to be impossible, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:28 Like 10. It is more like that. Yeah, that's what the people say. But I don't have any, I don't have any youth experience. So, so y'all can tell me. But as far as what I see, you know, when you hit the scene and you can't do it, you're probably not going to be able to do it. There's no clumsy 10-year-olds turning into messy. No, there's no, Joelle and Beads picking the sport up at 16.
Starting point is 00:16:56 I mean, I guess Matt Turner picked it up late, but we all see what Matt Turner. he's a pro but you know what I'm leaving he's a goalkeeper as well yeah yeah yeah I'm gonna leave it alone people don't come at me about my turner man I'm sorry y'all I'm not trying to offend anybody
Starting point is 00:17:13 I think it's an interesting question though I was bringing this up to somebody earlier today and I said it's because it's a more because soccer's a more complicated game and it's just like you know this is a guy who likes basketball more than soccer and he just I could tell he was really offended by that
Starting point is 00:17:28 yeah and we just kind of left we just kind of left it there anyway One of the thing is Tyler Adams said, I believe on another podcast, I can't remember which one, that the next coach needs to be, quote, ruthless and, quote, put people in their place, end quote, which is kind of interesting, given he was such a big proponent of Greg Burhalter. Isn't it? He flopping around a little bit?
Starting point is 00:18:03 It's quite Go ahead, Wachie. Go ahead. I'll have a counter to whatever you're going to say. Well, look, man. You two on the Monday review, I've kind of, I've, what do they call it, drip feeding, maybe? Yeah, yep.
Starting point is 00:18:27 You foreshadowed that a take is coming. Look, man. If you listen to me talk on the Monday Review, if you followed us throughout this journey that we've been on with the Monday Review over these, what, three years of doing it now, almost three years, something like that, you might have realized Tyler Adams, not necessarily one of my guys. I don't necessarily hate him. I support him as a player. But does he get me as excited as Tim Way, Weston McKinney, many of my other sons? no, not really. And part of that is
Starting point is 00:19:08 the way he plays. I don't got that much of of an issue with it. I can get with Tyler on his play style. Nothing wrong with that. But I've had problems with his jib.
Starting point is 00:19:24 I've had problems with his jib for a long time now. I never said too much about it. I would leak a couple things here and there. You know what I'm saying? But I think it's time for me to really lay it all out there now. Yes, me, I have problems with Tyler Adams' Jip.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Now you might say, hey, Vince, what is your issue? How could that be? Tyler Adams, he's just a lovable guy. He's our captain. He leads the team. He talks to the men and Blazers guy on a podcast. How could you do that? How could you do that to us, Vince?
Starting point is 00:19:58 And I'll tell you why. I think Tyler Adams is a Fed. I don't think you can trust Tyler Adams. I've always thought this to myself. I'm just like, man, he's that type of guy to where he's going to tell you what you want to hear. Whoever he's in front of, whoever he deems as the person that he needs to get on the good side of in order to get whatever he desires. He's going to tell you, he's going to tell them what they want to hear. Greg was in charge.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Greg was thinking about coming back in charge, blah, blah, blah. Tyler Adams is all in his pocket. In his pocket. Oh, I love Greg. We talk about, we don't even talk about soccer. We talk about my family. He talks about, it gives me pointers on how to use the big green egg for a cookout, et cetera, et cetera. And it's like, man, okay, cool.
Starting point is 00:20:54 And we see maybe, we see that maybe, maybe or may not have. effects on his playing time. You know, I'm not saying, I mean, yes, yes, I am saying Greg was playing favorites. Greg was obviously playing favorites. You know what I'm saying? Tyler Adams coming back with half a back flying on a plane all the way over to America for these international windows. He's getting starts. He's playing 45 minutes, whatever.
Starting point is 00:21:24 He's coming out when it seems like he probably should not have been playing or playing less than that, maybe like a 20, 25-minute sub-appearance or something. But somehow, but somehow he was able to get those. How? Because he brown knows his way into it. And now Greg Burrhalter gets fired. And Tyler Adams, like, yeah, you know what? We need a coach going to put these guys.
Starting point is 00:21:51 Greg is soft. We need a guy who's going to put these people in their place. Without him realizing that the people in their place was Tyler Adams on the bench. in the Copa America you know what I'm saying and then also it leads me to think about the report
Starting point is 00:22:13 that I don't even think it was a report or the rumor that went around Twitter from multiple people I think it came from you know the usual suspects and was even backed by Daniel Smith even
Starting point is 00:22:26 that after the it was either the Brazil match of the Columbia match, Greg Burrhalter pulled Johnny aside and had a 1V1 video session with him where he was where he was really ripping into Johnny and getting them for every little mistake that he made. Now, why was Johnny singled out? Out of all the other players on the teams that made mistakes, I think it was the Columbia match.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Maybe it was either Columbia, either way. That was the rumor. Yeah. And Johnny, as I remember it, Johnny actually had a good game except for that one, the goal, what was it, the second or third goal? Okay, okay. So yeah. Why was he singled out, Vince?
Starting point is 00:23:10 Why was he singled out? Why was Johnny singled out out of everybody that made a mistake in that damn Columbia match? Now, come on. We saw the Columbia match. It was a comedy of errors for multiple different people. Is it? Is it that Tyler Adams
Starting point is 00:23:26 while he was sitting on the couch during his during his his uneventful second half of the season maybe he was turning on the Wala Liga matches maybe he was watching
Starting point is 00:23:40 Rial Betis and was like damn this dude might be coming from my spot maybe he put that bug in Greg Burrhalter's ear you know as soon as Johnny I'm probably I bet what's happening
Starting point is 00:23:53 is he's seeing he sees Johnny's coming on strong and he knows he needs to do something but he's also a smart guy. We got to give him that. He's also going to be finding weaknesses in his game. You know, the game tape isn't just coming one way from Greg to Tyler.
Starting point is 00:24:10 I'm just thinking through your theory here. Yeah. Tyler sent Johnny clips to Greg. Exactly. Prepping him to tear him apart when that time comes. When time came after the Columbia game. Better talk to him about this one, Greg. I'm picturing Tyler because BJ was the iPad guy, right?
Starting point is 00:24:27 I'm picturing Tyler on the bench after he sub-de-up. out in the technical area, sit next to BJ, just giving them like, hey, hey, hey, like his bell's making a, making a game timeline. Hey, AJ, take that timestamp down. Take that time stamp down. Make sure you submit those to Greg. All Johnny's mistakes, right here, I got him in a list.
Starting point is 00:24:46 I got them, we got a medieval scroll. We're going to give to your ass, Greg. I mean, I don't know. I just can't trust that dude. Another thing is the fact that Tyler very much seems to be a guy that wants to be in charge. Not just, I do think he has natural leadership capabilities, right? But I'm always worry of a person that's going to, that's going to seek out being a leader.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Not the one that's just where it's just given to you by your peers. Everybody's just like, oh, he's the captain. Tyler seems like the guy that, you know, he's campaigning for him. Hey, hey, Wes, make sure you vote for me. vote for me, captain of the U.S. Ms. National team, Christian. You know what I'm saying? Who's your boy? Who's your boy? Me? Tyler. You know what I. You know I love you, baby. Vote for me. Vote for me, captain. And people that, I just don't trust people that want to be in those positions of power.
Starting point is 00:25:48 And then once you get that position of power as the captain, you are essentially one step away from management, which by definition makes you a Fed, makes you somebody I can't. can't trust with all my heart. The captain that we had on our football team. I love him with, I love him the death. But it was always like, when he's at like a, when he's at like a party or something, it's like, yo, make sure you, you know, we got to make sure any illicit activities that could potentially get us in trouble. We got to do him away from cap, okay?
Starting point is 00:26:23 Like, he's cool. He's a cool dude. I saw him in Indianapolis going, when I went to a, um, um, when I went to a, a Lakers game in March. And we dapped it up, hugged it out. You know, that's my boy. But at the same time, it was always like, hey, nope, can't do it around him.
Starting point is 00:26:41 And that's just always the vibes I got from Tyler. And, you know, the fact that he has love for Jesse March in his heart. But anyway, I'm done. So I guess kind of what you're suggesting is maybe he ratted on Weston in Nashville. Hey, hey, hey, let's take it there. Let's take it there, man. Let's take it there. I don't think that one's going to hold up.
Starting point is 00:27:03 I know that doesn't make a whole lot of sense. But I'm not saying he did, but what I am saying is if Wes came back to the hotel out of all the people that he wished that he could have saw, like walking through the lobby, you know, maybe Christian was down there chilling. Maybe, you know, who else was in that camp? Josh Sargent was down there chilling or something. If you see Tyler, you're like, damn. You put your head down.
Starting point is 00:27:30 You're like, I'm caught, bro. Like Tyler might even come up to you and dep you up too. Ask you where you been like, oh, Wes, what's up, man, dab you up. Like, oh, you just getting out there. You got a couple with you. You're going back to the room? Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:27:46 Okay, you're going back to the room. Okay. You get on the elevator. You think everything's cool. Next thing you know. Yeah. They at your door, man. They at your door.
Starting point is 00:27:56 It's an about face from him on this, on what we need from a coach. I guess a much less entertaining theory is that he is that my problem too. I had a thing to say it's not interesting. I mean, this is just profoundly not entertaining. But is that he realized through the Copa America that maybe the inmates shouldn't be running the asylum. Maybe they do need a, you know, after the sort of failures of June. No, okay. He thought about it.
Starting point is 00:28:33 He said, oh, it was all good vibes. And, like, you know, we were all, we were a brotherhood. And we thanked Greg for that. And he was really treated us well. And then he's like, oh, shit. Well, we just got grouped by Bolivia. Not by Bolivia, but from a pretty weak group. Now we need an authoritarian.
Starting point is 00:28:55 Okay. Now, maybe from just this one quote, I would give you that. but people in the Discord, number one being Phil Sock 8 on the Discord, make sure I shout them out. People that actually listened to the pod told me that also later in the pod, Tyler is scoffing at the fact that he had to get subbed out in these Copa America matches. So at the same time, while he's saying, a man that needs to be ruthless and put people in their place,
Starting point is 00:29:29 he is bemoaning the fact that he was. getting subbed out with half a back and while playing ineffectively. So that just seems to me to be a person who, at the very least, isn't taken full responsibility for his situation. This is a man that had to get surgery as soon as the tournament was over. As soon as tournament was over. As soon as tournament was over. And I know we talked about it before, the quote from the manager was due to. If you listen to the second question that the manager gets asked after that first answer,
Starting point is 00:30:13 he basically says, like, that Tyler was filling the thing in his back and that kind of wanted to see if it would get better in this Copa America camp. It didn't get better. It got worse, thus leading to the surgery. Surgery was not pre-planned, et cetera, et cetera. And so, I mean, I don't know. Everybody can take the facts with it and do with it. as they may.
Starting point is 00:30:38 But I got my own on you, Tyler Adams. And it's a time to, it's time to officially let people know I got my own, Tyler Adams, man. Yeah. We just need to make sure whoever we're hiring next knows how to deal with feds, which is a kind of a specific skill set that should add to the Crockpots methodology. You got to you got to stomp up now. Crockpott's got his work cut out for him. You got to stomp them out, man.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Not enough people talk about the feds. Those can kill locker room culture as much as, you know, the malcontents. At the risk of reading too much into his quote, he does say put people in their place. Do you think he has enemies maybe within this maybe suggests some enemies that he's going to come after now? You know, I guess time will tell. We'll see who. He gets put in a place. He manages this transition.
Starting point is 00:31:41 I'm excited to see. I'm kind of rooting for him. I guess I actually am rooting for him because he actually is one of our better midfielders and the leader of the team. He does seem to have a lot. Hey, and you know what? I'm going to defend, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:59 who else could have been the captain in Qatar and who else could have answered that aggressive question from the state reporter from from Iran Weston could have handled that Western could have handled that fine Weston would just giving them the eyes look like that
Starting point is 00:32:17 He might have turned into a real international incident But maybe Eat on Yeah All right Let's take a break And then come back and talk about
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Starting point is 00:32:39 The link is in the show notes. All right, we're back. The championship kicked off this weekend. Brendan Anderson came on as a sub and then scored a 95th minute equalizer to rescue a draw for Leeds at home against Portsmouth. We got to see that Ellen Road crowd go all limbs behind the goal.
Starting point is 00:33:00 Pretty cool. Brenda was all business, waved his team back to the Midway line. It was perfect, right? A returning hero, the leads returning Hero. Yeah. Storybook stuff. But then minutes later,
Starting point is 00:33:18 unfortunately, he then missed a wide open shot the last play of the game. It would have been the winner. And it kind of ruined everything. It wasn't all limbs now. Like, it was all limbs, but it was all the crowd putting their
Starting point is 00:33:31 hands on top of their head in the way that you do when something like that happens. The limbs all moved in unison and then stayed in the same spot. It was like a penalty kick. That's, it was, it was, it was, it was a penalty kick with the goalkeeper like four,
Starting point is 00:33:49 for like a couple yards off the line. And he dragged it wide left. It was one of those ones that I bet the, the XG people would say, actually, that's not as high percentage as you would think. But it was also one where when you miss it, your coach will say things like, this is a coach from Farca. For me, it was crazy that he missed this chance at the end. But you have to remember he's a young player that is desperate to prove his worth.
Starting point is 00:34:16 This is an unusual quote. So unusual. Because it seems like the second part of the sentence is going to make it better for Brendan. But it doesn't. That was a crazy miss. And he has not yet proved his worth is basically what he was saying. From the player who just tied the game to get the point. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:39 I mean, when I was reading this quote, in the notes, man. All I can think to myself was like, man, Mr. Farke sound like me. Like, that's exactly what I thought to myself. When I was watching that miss on Wildcad, I was like, damn, I miss was crazy. Crazy, I mean.
Starting point is 00:34:55 But I don't want to go too far. We have taken more time describing Brindow's miss than we have describing the goal. Yeah. I'm sorry. I wanted to get to the injustice of it. It was an amazing goal he scored. It was really nice, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:16 It was almost to the exact same spot as the miss, just a yard to the right. And it was through traffic. You know, he received the ball. I think it was number 10. Does anybody know who that was, who that is? One of his teammates kind of striding across the top of the arc and then just plays a little diagonal pass on the ground to him. he receives it with his back to goal.
Starting point is 00:35:43 He's got, you know, two, three blue shirts in the vicinity, and he just turns and fires it. I don't know if it went through the legs, but it was, it went through traffic, and it was a great finish. And, I mean, the miss was actually, it's not like he, it's not like he flailed at it or anything. No.
Starting point is 00:36:04 He hit it hard and low, just, you know, a foot wide, basically. Yeah, the miss was less difficult than the actual, than the goal. But yeah, number 10 is Joe Piro, by the way. Okay. But yeah, receive that thing in the top of the box. Did the thing, did the thing that I love to see people do, which is realizing that, hey, I am in the box. People cannot just haphazardly throw feet in there.
Starting point is 00:36:35 You know, he turned, took his time, set himself up, when I had shifted it shifted it to his right quick little snapshot got it off, boom. It was a quick It was a quick release, quick release.
Starting point is 00:36:51 I like that. And I hate leads, you know, after everything that happened there. But it is a fun stadium to watch things happening, especially goals for the home team. It's intense. It's intense.
Starting point is 00:37:10 What were you going to say, Chris? So speaking of hating leads, we have good news on that front because their new shirt sponsor is Red Bull and Leeds fans hate the color red and now they have some red on their shirt and they're distraught about it. Like a lot of these leads people, they don't wear the color red ever even not on game days.
Starting point is 00:37:35 Because of Manchester United, right? Which they refer to as scum. Yeah. There's a painter in Leeds, who the athletic talked to, he refuses to paint the color red in anyone's house. He's an indoor house painter. And you remove red from your house for no charge. Incredible. That's tough. Leeds, would you trade, you can either have Red Bull, you can either not have Red Bull as a sponsor, or you can have Red Bull as a sponsor. And because of Ben and Errant's ties to Red Bull. that ends up giving him, you know, a 10-point attribute jump, and he's going to score your goal game and get you back to the Premier League. I'm honestly wondering what they would vote for.
Starting point is 00:38:25 You want a superpower of Brendan Aronson? Or would you like to remain in the championship? And I think there's something to that, because even though he had that miss, he did look a little bit more comfortable out there. He looked good, actually, yeah. Probably because the Red Bull sponsorship. I think so
Starting point is 00:38:44 I'm excited to see how he does I think he'll He probably will have A pretty good season I'm guessing So you know As we know So many games to play
Starting point is 00:38:53 In the championship Even though he didn't start this game There's gonna be minutes To go around 45 more It's shit Always kills me Yeah
Starting point is 00:39:04 It never ends It's just over and over and over Also in the championship Aiden Morris He got his debut For Middlesbrough You know Made the move
Starting point is 00:39:13 This summer went 90 and a 1-0 win. I thought, I mean, you guys can disagree with me if you want. I thought it was a solid B, arguably B-plus performance from him. Helped create two big chances. One with a diagonal from left to right. Another by pouncing on a loose ball and send it in behind late. Both chances were wasted.
Starting point is 00:39:36 The pouncing on a loose ball thing is his great strength. I think as a player, he has really good instincts for... closing down any kind of loose touch. And he did also nearly gift Swansea a goal early in the game with an under-hit back pass. But overall, I thought he was good. I thought he was pretty good and Will. I'm excited to see how he does the rest of the season.
Starting point is 00:40:04 I'm going to throw out that unfortunate play, just a nervous moment in the debut. Okay. And highlight that he looked like a Middlesbrough player out there. I think the crowd was reacting to that. There was some energy in there when he'd run after the ball. One problem we have, though, is there are a lot of lookalikes in that midfield and in the back line. And there were times I didn't know which one was Aiden.
Starting point is 00:40:33 There's a few, man. It always gets you, too, when you pull up Wild Scout and you watch a new player, like a player on a new team. And a couple clips went by, I'm like, hold up, man. This is the worst one I've ever experienced. This is tough. They're all the same height. They have the same haircut.
Starting point is 00:40:52 Yeah. They're probably all named Aden, too. You know? I was like, yo, what does this dude's number real quick? Okay, 18. All right, all right, I'm locked in. They almost had similar gates, even. They're running the same out there.
Starting point is 00:41:09 And I thought he kind of had a distinctive run, not anymore. That's how everyone at Middlesbrough runs. I could kind of start telling them part a little bit, Just because he's like a little bit bigger than the other few ones that can kind of get. He's like a little bit bigger, a little bit wider in the shoulders. I thought you gave him two grade to grade here. I'm giving him a C. I thought he was all right.
Starting point is 00:41:34 He didn't necessarily drive the game forward, anything like that. He did do good stuff with the duels and et cetera. I mean, that one chance when he pounced on the loose ball. I mean, it's like literally he got the ball. And there's nobody, like, you just digged it. Yeah, there was no, you know, subtlety to it. No, no, it was just like hit the pass and let that guy run onto it. But yeah, yeah, it's not, I'm not, I'm not discounting his performance at all.
Starting point is 00:42:08 I think his, like, the combination, like, if you play in a new game with the, I mean, you know, first game with a new team and, like, the main thing you're wondering, wondering about is like his combination instincts with his brand new teammates they're playing with. It's like, okay. I assume that that would be one of the last things to come around and you're playing with a new group of fellas. So it was a good start for sure. I agree. These combination instincts are a little bit raw, untidy.
Starting point is 00:42:42 What were you going to say, Chris? I was just imagining adjusting to a brand new team. Whole new environment. Those combination instincts are, you know, they're going to take a game. Because even in the Josh Sargent, Norwich didn't, they lost their combination instincts over the summer. Norwich looks so bad. Lost two zero to Oxford United. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:43:09 Away. That's a newly promoted team. Josh registered zero shots. He actually didn't look that bad when he was able to. to touch the ball, but that was not very often. So let's just not spend too much time on it, I guess is my suggestion. There were a few moments which we don't see often where he passed it to a teammate and just the combination was off.
Starting point is 00:43:35 The teammate had just gone to a different place and then he did a thing like what's going in here. Yeah. Just to do a quick check real quick, is there any more controversy on the striker position? No. I don't think so I haven't gone through their roster but I've heard none of it
Starting point is 00:43:54 and he just looks like he's a striker out there No you're talking about the men's national team Oh at Arvis Yeah I'm talking about our striker position Men's national team striker position No it's Balo Okay okay I'm just I'm just Just wanted to get everybody's cards on the table
Starting point is 00:44:09 All right thank you I'm open to Josh making a run at it But it's not it's not a controversial right now I guess is how I would say it Okay. Haji played the last third of the game against Stoke. They lost 1-0. Anybody check in on him?
Starting point is 00:44:27 I did. There's nothing to report. Okay. He almost said at the very end of the game he had a run-in with the keeper, where they were running at the ball, and the keeper got a little aggressive out with an elbow, and Haji stood him down, which I appreciated. Good.
Starting point is 00:44:41 Other than that? I'm not surprised he didn't start the game. I mean, he was like the F.A. Cup hero for them. I didn't look into it. Who knows? I think he's still going to be a starter. on comitry. I have faith. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:44:53 Over in the Netherlands, PSV boat raced a hapless RKC. Walwike and we got some interesting stuff happening here. Tillman scored a banger. Just a gem of a strike from 25 yards or so. I mean, this was
Starting point is 00:45:09 a pretty nice goal. Beats a guy and midfield-ish dribbles a little bit and then just quick back back swing bang top bins gorgeous the team is a team like wall wike you pretty much know tillman's about to go to work out there he was on a completely different level than everyone on the field he looks amazing he really did look amazing yeah yeah he is good what it means is another question yeah go ahead yeah i mean the the goal in particular is just like i mean
Starting point is 00:45:47 my man took about four touches, three, four touches. Nobody coming towards his direction, closing him down, making him speed up, what he was going to do or anything, bro, just, I mean, was able to just stroke that thing home. If that happened in the MLS, you know what the narrative would be. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. Not taking away anything from a leak. It was beautiful to know that he can't do this.
Starting point is 00:46:14 But it was crazy the way he got to size it up. And let's make it. Yeah. Yeah. Totally fair. And probably the biggest news of the day from this game is Richie Ledesma started at right back, something I don't think anybody predicted. You got the floor at him, Bill's. This is especially meaningful to me.
Starting point is 00:46:44 I don't know. I don't know what it means. Maybe he's being shop-windowed. Maybe they really do see him potentially as a right-back for them. in either case I think his performance uh helped the case
Starting point is 00:46:57 for that thing you know like it helped it uh it uh it it it bolstered the case for a for a loan somewhere I think any team of watch would be like yeah
Starting point is 00:47:07 he's a solid player um and it bolstered the case for him to fill in it right back because I thought he was fine I mean it's again it's a really bad team they're playing but
Starting point is 00:47:18 but I mean he didn't he he'd He was fine defensively. And, you know, he's pretty decent in duels. He brings a little quality from outside, crossing it or combining. But, I mean, it's all caveated dramatically by the opposition. We'll just have to wait and see. I guess from a point, well, before we talk about Teze,
Starting point is 00:47:44 from a point of view of where the Ledesma situation stood a week ago in our minds, which was him just like, being nowhere, you know, like just being around. Yeah. It's a huge step forward, so I'll take it as, I'll take it as really good news for now. It is good news. You should take it as good news. Yeah, I do.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Yeah, thank you. I'm sorry for trying to bring up Tese transfers soon. I feel really terrible about it because you didn't deserve that. You should have been able to talk about Richiella Desmond for as long as you want it. Bill said, damn it, I've won it three years for this. Longer than that. Yeah, I mean, I had to watch. I watched some of those games at NYCFC,
Starting point is 00:48:31 watching him out there at Yankee Stadium, just absolutely mailing it in. I'm like, bro, don't you know your career is on the line right now? And he was just so average in those games. Like, not even average, just lukewarm. Bell said, I waited five years for this moment, Waki. Don't bring out no damn Tese. While I'm on my soapbox talking about Richie, you kidding me?
Starting point is 00:48:59 But it is relevant. I do want to ask you, like, how invested are you now in 2024, really? Like, did you drop your stocks? Does he have, does he still have a place in your heart? And if he does still have a place in your heart, why? I mean, he has a place in my heart, of course. I mean, I watched so much of his, like, academy footage when he was at RSL. and, you know, he was on the podcast.
Starting point is 00:49:24 He's one of the first few people we interviewed ever on the podcast. Of course, he has a place in my heart. I mean, I will say my expectations for his career had pretty, you know, I wasn't losing any sleep over it as of last week. And I still am not, I'm not like, oh, he's going to, you know, he's going to be a national team player now. I'm not thinking like that. But I'd love to be pleasantly surprised.
Starting point is 00:49:52 It would be really cool. And he's a nice player. I mean, did you see the one play where he, like right before he came off? He gets played down into the corner. And he sort of makes like he's going to whip it across the six. And instead he cuts it back to Malik. Oh, yeah, that was sweet. It was.
Starting point is 00:50:15 No, it was sweet. Be proud of that. It was pretty nice, actually. I thought it was nice. I was. I was a line. I was a lie. And then Malik just took a bad touch. I mean, maybe, hey, I'm going to bring up Tese, but not to change it from Richie.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Seems like he's going to go to Monaco. That may have related to Richie getting the start. Who knows exactly what was going on? Okay. Maybe he can hang around here and be a right back. See?
Starting point is 00:50:50 I don't know. This is why you don't bite the man's head off when he tries to bring up some news. he was trying to enhance your day. I'll be honest. The first time I was ringing up, Tese, I was going to come after Bells. I adjusted. I didn't mean to bite the man's head off, Vince.
Starting point is 00:51:10 I do think it's relevant. Tese's future is relevant. Tese's the guy right back. So, yeah. I mean, I think it would probably be better if he goes on loan somewhere. And, you know, plays for, but maybe it's perfect for him to play right back for PSV against a bunch of teams who are really not going to challenge him defensively that much. Yeah, they're going to bring in another right back is what they can do, though.
Starting point is 00:51:41 I think that's pretty clear. I mean, it is, it's funny, but I'm not like really that. But it is. Like, there was a point where it wasn't clear Richie LaDesma is going to have a soccer career. Yeah. Right? That point was last week. So that's what we're rooting for here.
Starting point is 00:51:59 And this is a positive, yeah, data point. Yeah, bells to your point about it being last week. I mean, it was literally last week. You know, Daniel Smith, our Air Divisi correspondent, was telling us about how Richie was starting young PSV games, you know, in 2024. Like a week ago. So, I mean, he's moved up to his deluxe apartment in the sky. May along continue.
Starting point is 00:52:29 Yeah. Well, you know, another thing about that is we did a draft, a 2026. We called it the 20206 Future draft on the podcast a long time ago. It was me, Joey Antone, Matt Hartman. And then Matt Doyle came in and like picked up the sort of the loose ends on like MLS players who, so the, The draft was uncapped players who we thought had a chance to make the 2026 World Cup roster.
Starting point is 00:53:03 And Matt Hartman, this was over the weekend, posted those four rosters in a little Slack channel that we're in. And he's got names crossed out. If they're crossed out with a black line, that means they're retired without club or ineligible because they've chosen to play for another national team. And then he's also, anybody crossed out with a red line means they're nowhere near. And, you know, if Ledesma at least becomes a professional, I'll go to, I'll, and I'll tell you, Hartman was generous with my roster. There's one, Justin Glad at Centerback. He's nowhere near, but he allowed him to be on there as a, like actually a, so if I get Ledesma back, I'll have four out of 18 that are actually still in the conversation. It's really embarrassing.
Starting point is 00:53:56 It's never going to see the light of day, but I'll talk about it here. You know? So, yeah. To be fair, nobody's roster really looks that good. Hartman's is the best. He had Raina, Balligan, which was kind of cheating because it was like, he got lucky. He got lucky and Balgan.
Starting point is 00:54:15 Well, he didn't, he just, like, picked a guy who was, there was no indication he wanted to play for the USA. That's the luck part of it. He got lucky that he chose the USA. Yeah, that's right. And he's got Raina, Baligan, Richards, and Scali, and Bellow. Well, maybe he does deserve some credit on those picks, because that's actually pretty good. He picks good athletes. That's what he does.
Starting point is 00:54:39 I picked a bunch of bad athletes and paid dearly for it. So, anyway, that's probably enough on Ledesma. It's cool. It's cool. What about Utrecht? Yeah. Well, Paxton. and Tatea Booth
Starting point is 00:54:58 got the 1-0 win and an empty stadium at U-Tracked against Zwole. Zwo. I guess their fans rioted in May. So this was an empty stadium game. And they have a team named Noah Ohio.
Starting point is 00:55:18 Like the state of Ohio. It's spelled like the state of Ohio. And that's really the only thing that I saw in that game, I think, is worth relaying. Nice. Vince, you're kind of doing stuff, Paxton. Yeah, Vince, you're kind of the Pax correspondent. What's, uh, what's going on? First of all, he was playing left wing, which I don't know why we have Paxson
Starting point is 00:55:45 and Erison playing on the wing. It's just, he's not going to cook there. He's not going to, he's just flatly not going to cook there. He was coming in field quite a bit, so that was cool. but he really just did a lot of he didn't do too much he didn't do too much didn't create much danger
Starting point is 00:56:05 I will say this his pressing led to Utrecht's goal and you know they won 1-0 so that was cool you know I mean the
Starting point is 00:56:17 the erins and pressing it travels across siblings you know it's not just Brendan doing all the work Paxton is a dog impressor as well Like sometimes in this match He was getting like ragdolled He was getting he was getting juked by
Starting point is 00:56:33 By fullbacks and whatnot But he was out there trying And Yeah I Wasn't a memorable Paxon performance I was saying Let's get him in the midfield Hopefully he can cook
Starting point is 00:56:50 There I need to see him in the midfield man He's wasted he's wasting on the On the forward line for me personally Yeah I don't really like him on the wing either Booth played, what, 25 minutes in this game, too? Didn't start. Correct.
Starting point is 00:57:07 Fans rioting, so, like, Groningen fans ended up having a bunch of their games canceled, right? That last season that Pepe was there when they got relegated. And Utrecht fans have to play in an empty stadium now. Kind of cool to be in a stadium when there's a riot, as long as nobody gets killed, you know? Yeah. Hey, man, I don't know what it is about the Netherlands, but it's underrated for their hooliganism.
Starting point is 00:57:41 Yeah. I think it was... Because you don't think of it as the place with a lot of hooliganism, but... Yeah. Yeah. I think it was Eric Palmer Brown, I want to say, was telling a story on some podcast about when he was at... I think it was at Vitesse. I want to say when they were...
Starting point is 00:57:58 I think they were getting relegated. And yeah, his experience of like coming back to the to the training ground. I think they played in the way game. It was like coming back to the training ground with the fans there, the angry mob ready to go. Interesting. I think it's you get kind of that compact country pushed up against the sea. That water can come over any moment. People are going to be tense.
Starting point is 00:58:29 By definition, you will be salty. Exactly. Precisely. Understood. He was at NACBreda, for what it's worth. That's what it was. Okay. Another black and yellow team. All right. Moving over to, I mean, this isn't exactly new news, but we got to talk about a little bit.
Starting point is 00:58:54 K. Cal has earned the nickname El Vakero, playing in Mexico. Here he is scoring a goal for Chivas in Leaks Cup last week against the Galaxy. It was a nice goal. A bullet header off a super tight angle, an extremely high difficulty finish. But the call on Apple TV, which I encountered as a clip on Twitter for the record, was even better. Check this out. They're saying, yee-ha. Beautiful.
Starting point is 00:59:35 Which I think is great. He started off his career with, this is Chivas, right? Guadalajara? Mm-hmm. Okay. Started off his career there. 18 matches, one goal in this new season. 10 matches, 7 goals to assist.
Starting point is 00:59:57 So maybe, maybe. Some type of lights coming off of Kade. Yeah. We'd love to see him do it. Like, League of MX is situated for K.Kal to get buckets. Like, when he... I was starting to lose faith, you know what I'm saying? It went from, like, his season with the quakes.
Starting point is 01:00:19 He played in 27 matches, had one goal, two assists. And then Guadalajah, Jivas, 18 games, one goal. You know, it was looking quite dire. But, but yeah, like I said, League of MX, the open play, Cade's physicality, I mean, we already know. The Mexican dudes are soft. I'm sorry, as soccer players, as soccer players, I'm not, I'm not casting aspersions on the people.
Starting point is 01:00:46 but as far as, you know, physicality, it ain't there. Yeah. I'm not saying the mentality's soft, but look, physically they cannot stay with K-Kal. That's all I'm saying. And with the open play,
Starting point is 01:01:01 just in general, yeah. I think that's a big, probably is a big part of it. Also, he goes from playing for just like a kind of a pathetic franchise in the quakes, at least over the last, you know, in recent years.
Starting point is 01:01:16 To playing for, not that Chivas is in a down, I think a down cycle a little bit, but they're still towards the top of the table all the time. So he's on a team that is better relative to the competition than the one he was playing at. By the way, I don't know if we've mentioned this on the podcast, but it has been mentioned in enough places. I think we can finally say that the USM&T playing an away game in Mexico and Guadalajara. in October. Is it for real?
Starting point is 01:01:53 It's for... I don't think it's... It hasn't been officially announced yet. But enough people have reported it. Or not reported it, but there's been enough rumors. There's been some Mexican publications that have,
Starting point is 01:02:05 you know, put out the rumor, etc. That, uh, yeah. Seems like it's cool. Seems like it's happening. A true away match.
Starting point is 01:02:17 You know, which, which, you know, there was some discussion on the scuff discord about maybe we should do a trip to Guadalajara in Mexico City, which I think is a great idea for the future. But it reminds me that we are making a trip to the Netherlands, some of Germany, maybe the low country,
Starting point is 01:02:37 maybe some Belgium in there too. And, you know, the details are still being fully fleshed out. But if you are interested in going on that trip with us, I'll put a Google form in the show notes. and you should fill that out because there's going to be an email going out probably in the next few days with some clearer details on that.
Starting point is 01:03:01 We're trying to, we're going to do that in October. The three of us, all three of us, on the trip. That's going to be amazing. That's right. Should we do these, well, let's do some transfer stuff real quick and then get out of here. Gaga, Slonina, ended up on loan in League One.
Starting point is 01:03:25 not League of Un League 1 the one that Rexum is playing in right now in England I don't know if this is worse than Yupin or what but I don't think it's the end of the world It seems kind of I mean I would have liked to have been surprised
Starting point is 01:03:45 to learn the market thought he was a championship player but Barnsley seems fine and it'll be cool to see some more Barnsley ain't Donovan Pines there? Yes, Donovan Pines plays at Barnsley. Okay, well, I already should have been watching Barnsley.
Starting point is 01:04:06 Transferred there from D.C. No, you shouldn't. I don't know what's Don't know what, Don't know what, Don't know what, Don't know what it is with Gaga. Bono Barnsley, hey. Allegedly, we got some intel that there were scouts from a couple teams at the Olympics. I wanted to watch Gaga. And obviously, if you watch the Olympics,
Starting point is 01:04:31 you know that Gaga was not starting between the sticks in France. So maybe that affected his market. Maybe. Maybe not. Who knows? But Caleb Wiley, officially loaned to Strasbourg. Yeah. Also didn't play a ton at the Olympics,
Starting point is 01:04:52 but he did get on the field a few times. We'll take it. So that seems, yeah, that seems good. That's Liga, huh? And then we have the Testman transfer saga It is ongoing The Orientina fell through
Starting point is 01:05:07 Now the teams that went to Mars Celtic Brentford Torino Parma And Como Kind of a weird list This is a damn shame
Starting point is 01:05:22 What's going on here with Tanner I don't really understand Well Well The The rumors are that, you know, his agents, I guess, are asking for too much money. The agent fees and the agent demands are, have ruined two deals now, the inter one, and the, and the, and the Furentina one, you know, it's quite interesting. And so with this, with this Fierantina deal, the reason why we knew it fell through, all of a sudden, out of nowhere, you know, after we had known that Tanner was just, was in,
Starting point is 01:05:59 conversations with Furentina talks for ongoing, etc., etc. Then all of a sudden we're like, oh, Furentina signed in Amir Ritchison. And I just want to say
Starting point is 01:06:15 I just want to say that, you know, this is all the proof I need that there's something funky is going on within Tanner's camp because the fact that Like something had to be outrageous for them to say, you know what? You know what we're going to do?
Starting point is 01:06:36 We're going to sign the black guy. You know what I'm saying? We are talking about Italy here. You know, it had the prototypical, statuesque, Tanner Testman, the American dream and seemingly the Italian dream of a midfielder. And they got so fed up, they were like, hey, man, you know, we're just going to go with this dude over here. Pluck him out of France. And I think they paid more. it seems like they paid more for him than it's rumored that Venetia is going to get for Tanna-Testan.
Starting point is 01:07:07 I think I saw like 11 million for Amir. So I don't know what the hell is going on. And also, Venetia is not even like, they played a game today against Brescia, a Copa Italia match, which they promptly lost, which if you're trying to survive in Syria, you don't need no additional distractions. but he was left out of the squad altogether. They seemed to be hopeful that they can get a transfer done with him. But if he keeps being difficult, who knows? Well, they did get to see Amir versus,
Starting point is 01:07:44 Fiorentina got to see Amir versus Tanner at the Olympics, right? Yes. So. They did. You know, that was a, that was one in the W column for Mr. Richard. I would say. I wouldn't necessarily say that. I don't think he was like,
Starting point is 01:08:05 I don't think Amir Richard was clearly better than Tanner in that match. I mean, he didn't do that much. Okay. But one thing I will say about Tanner real quick, though, is that watching them in the Olympics solidified to me that the strides that he made on the ball are real. He is a much better soccer player than he was. And because, you know, you never know.
Starting point is 01:08:28 Is it a Siri B tag? etc, et cetera, et cetera. But yeah, he did his thing. Now, the huge thing in that Morocco match was just the fact that he was, you know, I call the Mexican, I call the Mexican player soft. I mean, Tanner was, I mean, two-ply.
Starting point is 01:08:46 Just extremely soft to play through. You know, our biggest issue in that Morocco match to me was just we got no pressure to the ball. They were just doing whatever they wanted on the soccer pitch. With no pressure from us at all, no physical. emotional pressure whatsoever. Which, for me, I'm happy that Tanner went this route.
Starting point is 01:09:10 You know, you got a, you got somebody like him. People love to just default to hit with, hey, you're big and physical. Go ahead and be big and physical. I'm happy that he took this route and decided to work on his football at first because he was always going to be big and physical. But now he has to do it. So that's the next development. Did he change agents recently?
Starting point is 01:09:35 Allegedly. He brought on someone specifically who deals with Fiorentina. Oh, yeah, you said that last time we got together, didn't you? But still, somehow, there's some catch. Could it be Venetius? Could they be the issue? No one's blaming them. I don't know what they would be doing,
Starting point is 01:09:57 but I think maybe they have their cool shirts and they maybe get a little bit of pass here. I look into what's going on under the hood there. Oh, Waki, we talked. You know when we talked about Drake becoming part of the ownership group? Yes. It didn't happen, did it? No, no, I think it did happen because Drake's is like subbrand with Nike called Naqta.
Starting point is 01:10:25 They are sponsoring Venetius kits. I just saw that today. A web of within webs. So who knows? Okay. Let's, uh, oh yeah. What about Gio? What's going on with him?
Starting point is 01:10:50 It seems like he's staying at Dormant. He's appearing in the friendlies. He started one. He posted, he posted, yeah, he started, well, he started one that was a 120-minute one. I think that still counts. Okay. And then he subbed in this weekend. All right.
Starting point is 01:11:09 But he posted back in the best city in the world. Yellow Heart, Blackheart. That's an emoji. Season 24-25, let's go. Beautiful to see. Yeah. We'll take it. Hopefully, Claudio can control himself for a little while.
Starting point is 01:11:28 He's been doing great since, you know, basically two years. Allegedly. Is he? Oh, that's right, no. I don't think that's true. I forgot about what happened with the transfer before. Yeah. Maybe some meddling, maybe not.
Starting point is 01:11:47 Don't know. Also, just Tim Wea, it really seems that have locked down a starting spot. On the wing. Yeah, for YuVA on the wing. Has started, like, all of their, all of their friendlies for the most part, scored a goal against
Starting point is 01:12:06 Juventus next gen which is essentially their two teams so that's cool but also I think today they played in a they played in a friendly against a La Liga opponent I want to say and there was a tweet that came through that he set up Vlovich for a beautiful chance
Starting point is 01:12:24 that Vlaovic did not finish but all signs are looking good for Tim Wea right now there are no signs of Weston anywhere within the Nowhere, bro. Within the Uvei squad
Starting point is 01:12:42 or anything like that, which it seems to be it has been clearly communicated to him that he is not part of the program, not part of the, what do they call it? It's not program.
Starting point is 01:12:55 They call it the project. Project. The project. The second summer in a row, they said he's out of the project, but this time it does seem a little more true. Yeah, with like a new manager.
Starting point is 01:13:07 I mean, you always knew with Allegri. Allegry drives in that fiat to work and just dreams about Weston. What he can do with Weston today? You know, but yeah, they made a managerial change and right off rip. Managers, like, nah. Yeah. We'll see what happens. Is the window up until the end of the month?
Starting point is 01:13:25 Is that what's going on? It is. Yeah. Okay. All right, that's it. We'll see what happens with Weston. Thanks everybody for listening. We'll see you.

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