Secret Mum Club with Sophiena - Mums On A Mission: Did We Do It?

Episode Date: November 22, 2024

For five weeks these mum's have been on a mission, but have they completed it?Sophiena and Emma are once again joined by fellow mum and Lingo by Abbott nutritionist Sophie Bertrand for a look at how they've got on. What have they learnt?What does their glucose data tell them? And have they smashed that health goal?Get 15% off* the Lingo 2-week Learn Plan with code SMC15.*Code valid until 31 December 2024. New Lingo customers only. Not to be used in conjunction with any other offer. Please see http://hellolingo.com/uk to find out more and redeem offer.Lingo is not for medical use. 18+ only.© 2024 Abbott. The biosensor housing, Lingo, and related trademarks are marks of the Abbott group of companies.This podcast and the guests are part of a paid advertisement for Lingo.#HelloLingouk Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello for the final time, welcome to Mums on a Mission brought to you in partnership with Lingo by Abbott. I'm sure you've heard by now but Lingo is a biosensor and app that offers a coaching program and together they help you eat and exercise in a way that's right for you. The Lingo biosensor decodes your personal glucose response to food and exercise. The Lingo app translates your data into something you can understand and act upon. And the Lingo coaching program is designed by experts

to help you build habits and adjust your nutrition for the results you want. We've been wearing our biosensors, which we were gifted by Lingo. So we have been tracking our health data. We've both been using the Lingo app for a month now. So it's safe to say we've learned a thing or two about our bodies with Lingo but before we get to

that how have you been feeling so? I've actually been feeling incredible. Yeah. Have you? Yeah I love it. I feel like we haven't really spoken about our journey because we've been waiting to talk here haven't we? Yeah. So we've been keeping it on the down low but I'm actually loving it. Utterly fascinating. Do you love it? Yeah I became a bit obsessed at the start with like, I think- Eating good. Yeah, we spoke to Dr. Rupi about this like effect

where when you know you're being watched, you behave better, basically. And I was definitely guilty of that at the start. And then obviously all the experts we spoke to were like, no, do what you actually normally do. We needed to get the best results, didn't we? And I need to know how it's gonna affect me in my normal life not yet when I'm on my best behavior So I did gradually after like a few days kind of went a bit more back to normal and that was really interesting seeing

How my normal diet affected my glucose because you were you were really good at the start and you were like, oh I'm doing absolutely good Yeah, it's really well behaved and then I was like, who am I kidding? I eat carrot cake for breakfast Let's just eat the breakfast. Let's just. Eat the carrot cake. Let's just do this for real and see how we go. Some things weren't as bad as I thought though. And some things were worse than I thought. I was gonna say, I was gonna say,

things that I was eating actually, they turned out to be worse for me than I thought they were. I found it so fascinating and so intriguing, but I feel great. Energy's great. Sleep, great. And I'm not really a fan of the sleep. Yeah, I haven great. Energy's great, sleep, great, and I'm not really a fan of the sleep.

Yeah, I haven't been able to test the sleep thing because I obviously get no sleep, but you've been managing to fit in exercise as well, which is really good. I have been doing some exercise. Yeah, so that makes a big difference, doesn't it? It's not just diet. I want to say I'm feeling good,

but my body's a little bit achy. You feel a bit sore today. But the figures are showing great. Now in the final episode of our Secret Mum Club Mums on a Mission mini-ser mini series we're welcoming the in-house nutritionist from lingo Sophie Bertram back to the studio to help us determine whether we've achieved what we set out to do welcome back Sophie how are you I'm good thanks guys how are you we are so excited to see you we're good

I'm very excited to chat through your experience with Lingo. We're excited to have you back. I can't wait. I feel like you're gonna tell me off. I'm not gonna tell you off. I can give you some help and additional insights and how we can optimize even more moving forward. Because I've been scared to show you some of my results. I feel like we should get into it. As you know, we each started with a health goal

and it's been amazing to be able to track our progress using the data from the Lingo biosensor that we've been given to try. So before we get into it, shall we recap on our health goals? I just wanted to fuel my body with good things and know what I was putting in my body, understand it a little bit more and give it all the good stuff to look after my body on the inside, because I feel like I wasn't. I feel like you always know the stuff that you're eating is always sort of healthy and you're just like, oh, well, it's healthy, I'll eat it.

But what works for me doesn't work for you. So it's more just, I wanted to fuel my body with all the good things and I wanted to feel good. I wanted to have lots of energy, make sure I was the best version of myself and yours. I similarly wanted to like properly fuel my body throughout the day, have enough energy, just eat properly, like not just grab like sugary snacks or the quickest thing to make.

Cereal for dinner. Cereal for dinner, you know, a croissant for breakfast on the go, just things that weren't going to be the best for me, which I knew. But just, yeah, eat a bit better and just sustain my energy levels. And how do you feel about those health girls now? I actually feel really good I like I said, I feel like the things I thought were good for me and working for me Actually in turn or not and I found so much better and it's been fun to watch Like I did my normal my normal eating and obviously you can track and stuff and you can put all the log everything that you're eating

Can't you so, you know when your spikes are hitting or when you're dropping. So it's been really good to watch that. And it's been nice to have the flip side where you've switched it up so you can compare the two. Well, you can do little experiments, can't you? Yes. And it really is that window into your body.

You're having like a little experiment with yourself, aren't you? Yes. Like, you know when, you can obviously say, because you're a mum, you know when you wake up pregnant and you're in the middle of the night and you're so hungry, you're actually in pain. Oh, breastfeeding, yeah.

And there's times when I've woken up where I'm so hungry, but I've actually had a really good dinner, I've not had any spikes while I've slept, a great night's sleep, and then I wake up in the morning and I'm actually like, I'm not really that hungry. Or then you've set yourself off on a good foot, because if you've had a poor night's sleep, we know from research that that's gonna have a knock on

effect to your dietary choices the next day. And then you crack the wrong things, don't you, the next day? I will say, despite my coffee and croissant slip up, every most days I've been having a really good breakfast with nuts and- Oh, I love that, with a protein. I'll do a big bowl of,

because I know there's been this thing about oats can make certain people spike in the morning, but I love a porridge for breakfast and I don't think oats do make me spike. Well, especially if you're pairing it with the essential fats and protein. Exactly, so I'll put like a nut butter in there. My porridge, yeah, maybe a bit of natural yogurt,

some blueberries and then like loads of nuts, like walnuts, almonds. That just sounds like a recipe for a good morning. Oh, I love it, it's so tasty. I've had no more tea and biscuits, which used to be the first thing when I'd reach for in the morning. That was your first thing, really, which used to be the first thing when I'd reach for it in the morning. Really? Wow.

So my porridge is the first thing, and I've noticed that it sets me up on such a good path. You feel great, don't you? I feel great, and it fills me up. And when you're having a really good day, doesn't it just make you really pumped for the day? You're like, yes, I'm getting stuff done.

I feel really smug as well. I'm like, I'm gonna smash that breakfast. I'm healthy, I'm full. And that's the thing, when you start on a good foot, it gives you the motivation to move forward on one. Yeah, absolutely. So what's been your biggest takeaways from using this device?

I think it is that the thing for me is just eating really good food rather than snacking here and there. Because I'm a bit of a, I'll cook everyone else's dinner and when I cook dinner, I don't feel hungry, so then I just tend to pick. And I'm a bit of a picky eater. and I've really taken the time to slow down I'm cooking with the children so I think the most thing I'll take away from this is

to just slow down and be more in the moment to let the children be involved and to sit down as a family so it's taking it's not so much taking anything away from what this is offering the what the app and all the stats are offering me. It's more to just slow down and listen to our bodies. It feels like you've actually lowered your stress around all the time as well. Yes, yes. Which is a huge, you know. 100%. So I think that's what I'm taking away from this is that I just need to put yummy food in my body

but also to just slow down and not rush it. Be more mindful. Yeah, it's more enjoying the food rather than just, oh, I've gotta eat something because I'm really hungry. And this is the thing, we're stressed out so much of the time, so we are grabbing something on the go and we could have that meal sat down in a really nice, calm environment

versus on the go really stressed, your glucose might react very differently. I don't wanna say I've got a massive ironing pile now because I've slowed down a little bit, but you know, I'm feeling great. I'm not stressed about the ironing anymore, so there we go. That's the main thing. Yeah, exactly.

I think exercise for me was a really big learn. I feel like I focused loads on diet. And you were just saying, Sophie, when you exercise, it really affects how your glucose performs, even if you're eating the same foods through the day, or even if you're eating really healthy or whatever. If you haven't exercised or you're stressed, you'll still spike.

I don't get a chance to fit in much exercise, but what I do do is I'm always walking around with the pram, doing the nap lap. Any sort of movement counts. The nap lap. So that's what I'll be doing. So I'll usually time it so that I'm either walking after I've just eaten or before,

just to set my body up to get ready to take the food in. So that was a big one for me. It's this horrible cycle of that, you know, we should be doing exercise because I feel like society says exercise is the thing that we need to be healthy. And we spoke about this just before we started this. And in fact, I have been on a journey with you know my body and how

to keep myself healthy and I've always been told you know exercise is what you need and in fact I truly believe mine is dietary I feel like I'm much more relaxed calm in tune with my body and with my brain when I'm eating good food because the moment I exercised it was all over the place maybe I it's probably me I was expected to maybe just keep me very level well we know that high-impact high intensity workouts can spike our glucose which isn't a bad spike however when we say exercise a lot of people do think I need to be in the gym yeah lifting weights or doing some sort of running workout or running you know, over-exerting myself.

It's about finding a movement that works for you. I think we were just talking before we came on about how lower impact like Pilates can be way more beneficial, particularly for the female body and our hormone health, you know, particularly first thing in the morning. So when we think of exercise, it doesn't have to be the typical what we think of exercise. It can be like you say, walking around with a pram or doing some stretching in the morning.

We're all so unique, but again, Lingo can help you identify what types of exercise are helping. Which I just assumed, oh, it's all gonna just be about food when in fact it's not. I'm definitely on a journey of finding out what's good for my body. And I also found that the higher impact exercise actually made me sleep worse. That's really interesting. So taking a nice stroll and keeping

everything all really calm. So really nice food, really nice calm things. Cooking dinner with the children, sitting down bedtime stories, taking more time to do like bath time. All the karma things just kept mine very level, rather than I'm waking up, I'm late for the school run, now I'm doing this really high intensity workout, then I'm going to go for a 10 mile run, you know? I didn't do that all in one day, but you know. You could have done this. Yeah.

If we club it all together, the whole month together into one day. I did a HIIT class at the gym the other day and they were actually like, we don't recommend you do this more than three times a week because it raises your cortisol too much. Whereas before I would have been like, every session I need to be like, morning and night. And then your body's just in a constant state of stress.

It's counterproductive really. I mean, I'm just chill. I'm very chill. I love to hear that. So Zen. Have you kind of changed anything in regards to your nutrition? Have you added more protein or essential fats or fiber? We've got some of those fundamentals on the app of I've changed everything

Yeah, I have an absolute overhaul. Dr. Rupi is running the food in my life Adrienne's got me down on the exercise So you fully basically the full-on friend in the phone that's just given us every bit of guidance that we need. But I've personally changed, I've changed everything. Like my sweet stuff now is not a breakfast. I have that later in the day. If any, I'm tending to find that Savory things are more better for me.

So it's finding a whole new snack pattern and things to enjoy. Children are loving it though. Well, I love that it sounds like this has actually been really fun for you guys. Oh my, I cannot tell you how much fun I've had. Because that's what we want, like it's not, you know, this is not a diet, it's not restrictive.

It's not punishment. No. It's not punishment, no. It's been good. Because I think my sweet tooth has massively reduced, because I think starting the day off with the tea and biscuit was like setting me up for a day of like sugar craving. Yes, setting you on that sugar roller coaster.

Whereas now I'm having that great healthy breakfast, I'm like I'll just have breakfast, lunch, dinner. Meal prep's been really important for me. I've been much more organized. I've been doing a proper food shop every week, not just grabbing bits on the go. There's always good stuff in my fridge. I can always make a healthy meal out of something.

And then my sweet cravings have gone, basically disappeared. Well, I think that's because you're eating foods that are actually satisfying you. It's filling me up. So you're not constantly craving that kind of high energy food. I've been adding some sweet to my savoury, Dr. Reapy said about putting pomegranate seeds into your salad, so you're getting that sweetness with the satisfying essential

fats and protein. Sweet potato and blueberry, Sweet potato and blueberries I had the other day. Oh, the kids' favorite snack. So you mix together. It's just surf right in the pan. It was absolutely divine. Yum. Yeah, so there you go. We're changed women. We are new women.

Have you managed to use the insights to help improve your sleep at all or was that not something you were struggling with? No. No. Well, I'm probably asking the wrong people being that you've got small children who are unpredictable. No, I do too pretty well.

I was answering for you. Renly sleeps through the night. Renly does sleep. Yeah. I'm very lucky that he does sleep. You are very lucky. I wish my 14-month-old did. So do you have any questions around your data

and your insights from the app? Anything you wanna bring to the table? Should we show one from week one and then week two? Yeah. Because we obviously, I didn't know this as well, which I really, really love this, is that the app, you can correct me if I'm wrong, the app sets you a target when you first start

and then after monitoring it and you go in through your period, it then reassesses it. How often does it reassess it? Is it every seven days? Yes. Yes, because we were saying our lingo count changed, didn't it?

It went down and I was like, I think I'm doing good. What was yours at first? Started at 60. Same. Then I went down to 46. Then I went down to 40. I went from 60 to 40. And on the 60s-

You went, you had a big jump. Yeah, but on the 60s, I was usually within, apart from that one bad day that I spoke about where I had a lot of beige buffet, and I don't think I did any exercise that day either. And then when I went down to 40, apart from that most days I was within the 60, then when I went down to 40,

I found it quite hard to stay within the 40. Whereas you were saying you were always within it. Should we show? So this was my week one. Okay, what's good though is that you never go really far out of range. No, no, and then I have got my week two. Should I show you that?

That's my week two. Wow, that's really steady. What a difference. What a difference. Yeah. From the first week, I just kept everything exactly the same. The second week, I then changed it completely

and then I've just been consistent there on out. And this is what we encourage, the first week, don't change anything because you want to see those behaviors that are maybe not best serving you. Emma didn't take that note. I took notes from the class. Did you flip it?

Did you do it the first week you tried to impress? I think my first week was better and then my second week was worse. So like my first week, that's the first day and my lingo count was 29 out of 60. Because you panicked. I did actually think mine stayed like quite within the normal range, basically all the time.

It was quite rare to go outside of the healthy range. Even though it obviously peaks and troughs and goes up and down. I, yeah, I didn't feel like I did that badly. The one meal there that really spiked me that I was surprised about was a stir fry. And I think that's probably because it had a sugary sauce. Oh.

Oh, the sauces will get you. Yes. The sauces will get you. I was like, I'm eating so healthy, this has got loads of veg in it, but I think that sauce really. You also want to be making sure you're getting enough protein in each meal as well,

because that really does help keep you steady. It's about out, yes. And I found that I just thought chicken was protein. I thought that was the only thing that was protein. That was it, yeah. But you've got all these other protein sources. Honestly, I feel that was the only thing that was protein. But you've got all these other protein sources. Honestly, I feel like I'm re-educating myself. Yeah, you've got your nuts, you've got your eggs.

Yeah, that's really great. So you've actually diversified your diet as well. And also Dr. Rupi said about peanut oil. So if you're having like a salad rather than adding a dressing that's high, add a little bit of peanut oil. All these hacks. Honestly, don't wanna give you all my tips,

but you know. Gosh. I have actually taken some really good recipe ideas from him. The fancy beans on toast. Did you see that? I made the fancy, yes I did. Yes I did.

He's like, if you're a student just starting university. Fancy beans on toast. Make your own beans on toast. You can't go wrong with homemade beans on toast. I was like, I'm not even a student and I want fancy beans on toast. I'm taking them. My kids love that as well, it's such a good,

because rich in fiber and protein. Yeah, and it was so quick and easy, and yeah, really healthy. It feels so much better, I think, when you've made it from scratch, rather than, like for the babies, like where they're loving, yeah, they're loving using the blender,

and blitz and everything, everything's fresh. Having the time of their life, honestly. Getting them involved is a game changer, isn't it? Definitely. So did you, game changer, isn't it? Definitely. So did you mums complete your mission? I feel like I did. I feel like you've done incredible, guys. Yeah, thank you.

That's really kind of you. Coming from you, that means a lot. That means a lot coming from you. It really is. I was gonna say, but you made it sound bad. But you've really taken your insights and let them empower you to make those decisions that are working for you.

And you can just see how impactful they've been. I hope that it's from this, everyone that's been on this journey with us, that, cause it's definitely taught me that this isn't just about, it's not just about food and just about exercise. It truly has taught me so much. Everything is linked and everything

can have a knock on effect. It's the whole picture. It is the whole picture. It's funny because what I was doing before, I knew it wasn't great for me, but I still felt fine and could operate. And I was like, well, why would I change it? I'm fine.

And then actually when I started seeing it, I was like, no. Well, I believe so many of us don't feel, we don't know how good it is to feel good until we feel that good. We just get used to not feeling our best selves. And then when we start to feel our best selves, we're like, oh my gosh, this is just amazing.

And you know, you feel it, don't you? Now you have that bad meal, or you have something that's maybe processed, or you have a takeaway meal. It makes me feel so awful. And I don't, do you know what? I don't actually feel guilty. And I thought I would feel guilty.

I thought I would feel really bad in myself. But I actually just feel internally really bad. Like I just feel sluggish. I have an awful night's sleep. I'm dehydrated. Wow. Doesn't fill you up. Doesn't fill me up.

And you know, those things are fine every so often. If we know how our body's gonna react and you know, we're out and about. We don't wanna take away from any kind of social activities. But again, it's having that knowledge, which is power, and how to pick yourself back up and get yourself feeling great again.

Thank you so much for joining us today, Sophie. It's been great to have your support at the start and the end of our journey. And a huge thank you to Lingo. We might not all have a Sophie in our corner, but we all can use Lingo to help us understand our bodies better and make positive changes to achieve our health goals.

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