Secret Mum Club with Sophiena - The Double Digit Realisation

Episode Date: January 8, 2026

Soph and Emma catch up on the festive period, with Soph having a big realisation about 2026 and Emma sharing her wild New Year’s Eve. Plus, the ladies hear from an expectant mum, and a listener whose little one has finally said “mummy”. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

We're back. In case you didn't know, this is the secret mum club, and I'm Safina. And I'm Emma. And welcome to your first Thursday episode of 2026. Where we get to squeeze in all the extra bits and bulbs from the week. Squeeze all of your bits. I've missed that. I hope they're nice and...

Juicy. What? I don't know where I was going with that. Sorry, honey. All of your comments, thoughts, questions and fun stories. Keep you going through the weekend. Show a jump bonie. What the fuck?

I feel like it's been a decade. It's been so long. How? It's been long. Has it? I think since we said. It's been way less. We broke up on the 19th.

No, 17th of January. It's been a school break basically. 17th of January. 17th. Oh, do you know what? I was trying to have a chat with Maz earlier. I can't, I keep getting all my muck and words fuddle to buckle the fuck up. The next few episodes that you do hear, fuck on the buck up.

I keep doing it all this time. But no, it was the 17th of December. Yeah. We had our last record. Feels like an age. What's happened since then? A lot. How was your Christmas?

Phenomenal. Yeah. It was a lot though. I don't even feel like I know what you did. Because I didn't do any. I say I didn't post anything because I thought I'm going to take myself a little detox. I'm going to really embark on this break and really jump full feet in. And then I had no choice but to take a break because we got struck with sickness.

And when I tell you sickness, it was like nothing I have ever seen before in my life. it was fucking barbaric Colby was really, really, really ill from the moment we broke up from school What, tummy bug? Sickness, diarrhea, he had a cold, runny nose sneezed shit himself It was honestly horrendous

And then I went into panic mode Because I was like, right, I had a coffee belch then, sorry I was hosting Christmas But I was terrified It was going to make everyone sick So we were I kept having to move like Colby round different rooms, clean his bedroom, put him back in, and then clean everywhere that he'd been. I was bleaching like a bitch.

It was honestly. And you just done a deep clean on the house as well. I was just spent my whole time deep cleaning. I spent my whole time cleaning or looking for Christmas food. I had to, I had a military operation in the freezer. Try and keep it on top of that was mental. And then Dotsie got sick. And then Renish just didn't not get well.

He was just sick for what felt. He's been ill for ages, isn't he? I know Sadie's been the same. Honestly, she's had a cold for about a year. It was honestly horrendous. Rends just stops eating when he gets ill. Yeah. Just stops eating.

He'll drink, which I'm really grateful for. Yeah, as long as they're drinking water. And does he still have milk? No, no milk. Doesn't even like milk now. Isn't that weird? And he's not lactose intolerant. No.

No. Said is still on. I mean, Joseph's still on. Cool. Any child? You're still on the milk, are you? I think Joseph's only on it because Saeed is still on it. I think if he had older siblings, I think he wouldn't care.

But obviously, he wants everything that she's got. So when she has a bottle of milk before bed, he's like, can I have a bottle of milk? Can I've tried saying like, why don't you have yours in a beaker? Just make it a little bit more grown up. And he's not the same. Not even Ren has a full on mug. And he loves a cup of two. They all three of them love a cup of tea.

Yeah, we don't really do an open cup yet for Joseph, which I've realized hanging around with other kids at Christmas, we're very behind on. No. He can do it. You can do an open cup, but I just don't allow it. Yeah. I don't want this village is. No, thank you.

Rens does love a mug. Does he? Yeah, he does. The decaf tea. And if you try and put it in a cup for him, he's like, no. No, no, no, no. Give me that shit. No, see.

Yeah, if I give Joseph a cup, he's like beaker. Yeah. I think he's quite like babyified. But then, yeah, but they're still really tiny, whereas mine are, which I had an epiphany the other day. Don't start saying, fuck me, you know what's coming. I'm going to have a double-digit child this year. What that?

I'm in the year where I'm going to have a 10 year old. 10's not till August. Emory's going to be 10 this year. Don't start doing it now. You've got seven months. I'm on the countdown for July. I want the fucking summer here, honey. Get me to July and need the six weeks holiday.

I can't handle this school routine. I don't like it. I don't want to be apart from my children. He's going to be fucking 10. He's going to be 10. Not until the next. He's going to be. Not until this school year.

Are you hearing that? Also, I'm applying for his secondary school place this year. Oh my God. We did the primary application as well. Oh God Dotsy's joining junior school Rends is going to preschool Oh, I know

That's the next thing He needs to get worried about That's April, isn't it? Yeah, yes I'm fucked I'm fucked I don't think my art can take this

He wasn't meant to grow I don't know where he's got the memo from Two But he's just Two nearly Yeating himself out of his cot I am doing that thing now

Where people are like How old are your kids And I'm like Oh four and two Because we're in the year now Of like They're February and March I always round up

Yeah He's been two For it since he turned one He's nearly two The week after turning one, he's nearly two. Yeah. I keep saying, Dots, you're nearly eight. She's like, I've got eight months, mom, until I'm eight.

Yeah, but that's... Give me a break. That's this year now. That's nearly. She's closer to seven than she is to eight. Yeah, I know, but no, she's actually nearly eight soon. Is Renner's coming out of his cot? He's got to, Emma.

No. I can't, I can't with the... I'm keeping a head, Sadian, Nett. I'm trying to figure this out on my Instagram stories. Did you watch me have an absolute crash out on my Instagram stories? I saw some of them, but to be honest, I talk so much shy. It's too many tabs.

I had to. I just don't, I just, I don't know whether it's because we were in the bungalow and the other two. I didn't feel scared of them getting down the stairs. Yeah. So I think that's what's freaking me out. Yeah. But we're going to more in that in the main episode. Put a baby gate on the door.

Yeah, but then what if you just stand to the door like, ah! At least he can't get out. Yeah, but he's still going to wake us all up by screaming. He probably would climb over it. Yeah. And then what if he climbs over the baby gate of his bedroom and then over the baby gate of his bedroom? and then over the baby gate of the stairs. Then he's just in the kitchen like fucking shut up.

Like, I'll eat everything. Can he manage the stairs though? Because in the new house, we haven't put a baby gate back on because Sadie can manage the stairs. Yeah, so I did that and we actually did a good month of no baby gates. I thought this is really lovely. I don't want to ruin my walls. And then the moment they fucking yeat themselves down that stairs,

so I've never cracked my pants so much in my life. What do you do? What do you do? I don't think he deliberately thought, do you know what? I'll really put her up to the test today and launch myself down here. No, he slipped and ferville. and literally went feet head, feet head,

and that he was locked between the unit and the bottom step. Oh, okay, yeah, that sounds quite bad. It was horrific, had a gash down his face. No, no, no, keeping the baby gates. You're making me think I should put them back on there. Personally, I would, but only if you'd asked me when we were in the midst of great stairs, I would go for it, honey. I don't know what's worse, the injury, potential injury,

or ruining my walls. I'm ruining my walls and they're brand new. I know. And I'm really sad about it. It's worth it, but I think I'd rather that then. It's worth it. Yeah. Yeah. But it was all right then in the end.

Did everyone stop shitting themselves for Christmas day? Yeah, that was really good. I spent my whole time cleaning. And then I woke up Christmas day. It's obviously over in 10 minutes, isn't it? And then I spent from 7 a.m. to 1 p.m. cooking food. You're doing the buffet? The buffet.

Yeah. Yeah. How was that? It was a lot of food. It was great. Everyone was really happy. It's hard with buffet food because you're constantly by the oven, aren't you? Yeah. Put that on for seven minutes.

I was rotation. I was rotation. Yeah. 25 on that fucker. Yeah. I'll go get changed in the time that that's cooking. You've got tiny potato skins with your nuggets. Yeah.

That was honestly me. And then I thought I didn't have enough food, but actually I had too much. So there wasn't enough room on the table. Did you eat for days? No. No. Well, I sent Roxanne home with it. Yeah. I wasn't keeping it in my house.

I was sick to the death of it. I'd spent all that time collecting it, then cooking it, looking at it. I just need to get out of the house. Do you know what? Is all your Christmas presents? Plus is fuck loads of food. Yeah. Take it all home.

I don't. I don't need it. And then we. we did New Year's together too. Did you do a party? We just had a little party. Yeah, a little, we dressed, so we had a cash Christmas day and then we dressed up for New Year's Day. That's nice.

Did you stay up till midnight? No, no. I was done by, I think about 9 o'clock. Yeah, I saw someone say, if you've got kids, watch another country's fireworks that are further ahead. Or we put on last year's and then cut it off as soon as it says, happy 2025. Yeah, how many 2020, six. Six. Six.

You've got to shout it loud enough. Yeah. But they were like, obviously Colby can read the time. So I had to say to him this year, you know, you just got to play along. But Dotty was like, can't believe we stayed up till midnight. So late. Crazy fucker. My mum and dad, we went to my mum and dad's, Stefan's sisters for Christmas, my mum and dad for New Year.

Because we always like all today and switch it. So it was a new year in Essex year. And my mum was like, you're welcome to come. So we drove late on the Tuesday night because now that's the long journey for us. We have to drive when the kids are asleep. So we drove late on Tuesday night the 30th. Back to Essex. To Essex.

The first day we were waking up there was the 31st. That was New Year's Eve. Like, first day seeing everyone over Christmas. My mom was like, yeah, you're welcome to come that day, but we are going to go out on New Year's Eve. Oh, okay. I was like, okay. She was like, yeah, you know, you won't stay up until midnight anyway. And she was like, and we want to do something fun.

So they went out. I literally love Nick. She's got no filter, is she. No. She does not. Do what you want? She does not go to shit. Yeah.

And she was like, you will be going to bed at 10. And I was like, do you know what? you're not wrong. You're not wrong. So I said, you go out and have a good time. The rolls are reversed. I know. I know.

So they went out until like one and we went to bed. Actually, by the time we'd sorted out our 2025 Instagram posts. Yeah. Me and Stefan spent an hour and a half on the sofa silently next to each other scrolling, picking out our best pictures from our camera rolls from 2025, which is there's no better way I'd rather spend an evening. And by the time we'd done that, it was 11 and I thought, this is getting a bit late. Yeah.

Let's get up to bed. Let's get up to bed. So I just missed it. Oh. Just missed the new year. But I know. leave the sleep. We had, um, the new house, the new house, the house you live in now, your house. In my house, the house, not opposite me, but the road, the road backs onto the houses behind us.

They did fireworks. I didn't think it was that close. They'd obviously, they'd really kindly come around and said, we are doing fireworks, blah, blah, blah. Um, if you, you know, you want to watch them, we're going to be doing them and just hope that they don't interrupt you or anything like that, which is so sweet. No one has to do that. So we went to bed thinking, oh, it would just be, it won't even be that loud.

It'd just be a few pop-de-pop. I felt like I needed an air raid shelter. Fuck me. We had the same thing. My parents are in bed watching them. Honestly, I felt like they were coming through the window. I thought I need to take them a bunch of flowers and just say thanks for the show.

Honestly, it was iconic. Nothing worse than when your kids have just gone to sleep. I think our neighbors went off at about 9 o'clock. I was like, you're fucking joking. It's going to wait them up. I was at midnight. They didn't wake them up, but my sister's got a dog and shoe wash it and herself. Oh, that's right.

No, mine slept through it, all three of them, which is mental. Yeah. And then we had New Year's Eve and then New Year's Day. My sister came around again because the boys had a Saints game to go to. Oh, yeah. There's always loads of sport on over Christmas, isn't it? So I felt like we had a lot of time together. Yeah, nice.

And your brother as well. Well, Richie's actually now really, really ill and has been for the last two weeks since after Christmas, which is absolutely tragic. Yeah. Well, his is, I don't think he had the sickness and diarrhea, but it's had really, really painful flu. I feel like everyone's had flu, haven't they? Nothing I've ever seen. Like, Richie couldn't walk, couldn't do nothing. Like, he couldn't drive, couldn't do nothing.

Like, really, really poorly. And I felt awful because I was like, I hope we've not given it to you. Well, I feel bad because the kids, wherever you take them, they're snotty and dribbly and they're coughing in people's faces. And people are a bit like, can you get them away from me? I'm now to the point, though, that this time of the year, I actually feel like we don't go anywhere because it's just, it's not. not comfortable cold. No. Like it's horrific.

So we don't go anywhere. We're now back on the football rotor for Colby and we're like rotating the football rotor. So one of us does a training, the other one does a training. One does a game. One does a game. Because I'm not going to take runners out in it. No.

He doesn't want to be in that pram. He wants to be running around. It was minus four and a half yesterday. Yeah, minus four on the school run. But I keep trying to get the kids out in the fresh air. I'm like, do you know what? I live in the countryside now. I want to do some more outdoorsy.

stuff. We did a really long walk down the river when we were with Stefan's parents. Lovely. Every time we take them out and the effort of getting them out as well, getting them all wrapped up. Joseph's got a thing about not wearing his coat at the moment. I'm like, you're joking. It's minus six outside. You get them out and they just moan the whole time. They're just miserable. They're cold. And it's really stressful, isn't it? It is stressful. But also I get stressed about being trapped indoors with them all day. So when I know it's going to be really cold, I'm a bit like, oh, I don't want to be stuck inside all day because they go stir crazy and I get cabin fever. But then if you take them out, it's not worth the effort. Like the tant. trims we've had over Joseph putting his coat on or just wearing stuff in general. Like I think there's been a lot of upheaval because we just moved and then there was Christmas. Yeah. We've had no like stability really.

We went and stayed with Stefan's parents for quite a long time, did two days back at hours and then we went to stay with my parents for quite a long time. So there's been no, they just don't know whether they're coming or going. They're sleeping in different beds. They're doing different like different routine. Seeing lots of different people. Yeah. Trying to get a Christmas jumper on Joseph or Christmas pyjamas.

No. I've been quite lucky because we've just put the children out. in the garden and they've really loved that they've really loved just popping out in the garden because I've wanted to go out and do stuff but I just I can't my heart can't handle it because I said to Chris you're you're you're trying to go out and have a fun time when in fact they're all over stimulated with regards to like the lights the music the noise the sound the excitement of Christmas what they're going to get meeting Santa all of that seeing family on tap because everyone's broken up from school it's just such a lot And I just said to Chris, we just need to keep it indoors until Christmas Day comes and just relax.

But obviously we were poorly anyway. But we were just popping them out in the garden. Get a little snow coat on, off you go. I mean, Renner's is out there now. Chris is at home just him and Renner's. I need to get them better prepared. I need to do something because I want to have outdoorsy kids. And at the moment, they're pathetic.

Yeah. But they've never been trained to be outside. And also Joseph has struggled with being in the garden, isn't he, at the old house? He just doesn't really like anything that's not on his terms. And if you said to him, what do you want to do, he would always say, stay at home all day and play toys. Wow. There's only so much turtles role play. But then that was Colbes and now he's more of a...

Yeah, I'm just hoping, like, especially where we live now, there's so many, like, beautiful walks and stuff we can do. But we just aren't doing it because... Just got to wait for the summertime. It'll get better all the summertime. Or just to get a little, even spring, like, just to get a little bit milder. Yeah. But like, they're not wearing a hat, not wearing a coat. It's any element that he can control.

He will. He will. So, like, trying to get out of the door. he will lose his shit over putting a coat on. And I'm like, we tried a new tack over Christmas because he was having some mad tantrums. And I was like, do you know what? I think just give him his way a little bit more

and see how that goes. And he didn't have as many tantrums because I was like, do you know what? If all you want to eat for Christmas dinner is pigs in blankets and peas, eat that. Eat that. Yeah.

I tried to put potatoes on his plate and he screamed. I was like, do you know what? Today, I'm just going to let you do whatever you want. Yeah. And that did work for a bit. But when it comes to putting a coat on to go outside, I'm like, you can't decide not to wear a coat. It's freezing and you're going to get ill.

So, like, that's, that's a hard. And there is no negotiating with him. There is no. And there's no negotiating. And I'll just be like, I'm going to leave you at home then, which is like the worst thing you can say. And then he'll scream. But is it?

I thought he'd be like, all right, then off you go. No, I'll leave you at home with the grandparents. No, because he wants to, like, he wants to be involved. But I don't know what it is. Some of the meltdowns have just been like catastrophic. Yeah. Like, and me and Stefan are like, you can, you can let them have their own way to an extent or let them feel like they're in control.

Yes. But things like that. Just non-negotiable. You're putting your coat on to go outside. It's freezing. Yeah. But he'll just lose his shit. Because they say, don't they?

Is making them feel like they've won. But in fact, you've won. Yeah. You know, like there was something years ago. And I think it was when Renley was like Joseph's age like three. Sorry, Colby was like three, four. And I remember seeing something and someone had said, don't ask them, do you want to put your shoes on or not?

It's more, do you want to put your shoes on? And then they feel, because they've made your shoes on or not, it's more. And then they feel, because they've made. the decision out of the two, that they're in control of that. But yeah, with the coat situation, I wouldn't really know, do you want to put your coat on or shall I put it on for you? Yeah. Because mum's wearing hers and Sadie's got hers on.

Yeah. Yeah. We're always like, look at us. We're all wearing coats. Or I'll be like, do you want to wear that coat today or that coat? Yes. But sometimes I'm like, sometimes I think the choice is like crippling. Yeah.

And also he's too clever. He'll always just be like, no coat. Oh, like. He's a smart little boy. He knows his own mind. He's fucking... Anyway, so I normally don't like January, but I'm actually excited to like get back to some form of routine now and have like some stability.

And I'm hoping that helps with like, because sleep and everything's been up in the, like so up in the air. That's what you need, isn't it? Once you go through Christmas, that's the hype of Christmas. But then you actually get to January and you're like, I, everyone's sleeping. One's sleep on the sofa, one's in the kitchen.

We're eating pringles on tap. Yeah. Yeah. We need to rain it in. Honestly, chocolate for breakfast. It's got to stop. Give me some stability back in my life. I need some stability and some vegetables. I need to stop drinking Prosecco every day.

Yeah. Okay. At 10 a. m. My friend said to me the other day, it is good to have a drink-free day, you know. I was like, I do. I know, but I don't want one. I said to Stefan, should we do dry January?

And he was like, no, no, no. Did you get anything nice for Christmas? Yeah, we actually, we did have a lovely time. We don't do presents normally for the adults. We just do presents for the kids. We had some absolute crackers. But now I've got, like, loads of shit that I need to find space for in my house. And the babies were happy?

Yeah, they did. They loved it. Sadie, like, didn't get the present thing so much. So we only got her a few bits because she was like a bit overwhelmed. Yeah. She opened one thing, got her an Elsa dresser, like a whole frozen dress up. She loved that. So I was like, you just played with that for a bit.

And I just staggered the rest of the, the rest of the presents. And then Joseph's a bit more at that age where he rips one thing off. And he's like, what's next? What's next? And I'm like, whoa. Just slow down. Chill out a bit. Yeah.

Because you'll be like, he just gets like, you know, overwhelmed. Yeah. But he got mainly Ninja Turt. stuff which he's loved and he's obsessed with and he's played with it to death so that's been a good thing and then my mom and dad got them a toy kitchen which they've loved but I need to make room for that in my house now and they also got a bike and a scooter that makes me sound really spoiled wow they've done well the scooter was a hand me down from Joseph's cousin oh and Sadie got a little balanced bike but now they're just riding laps around does she love her bike they love it but the problem

is they always want what the other one's got so if Joseph's on the scooter Sadie's like scooter and if Sadie's on the bike Joseph's like bike and I'm like you've got one thing each the mistake I made was not getting on the same thing. Of course. But obviously the sharing at the moment is terrible. Like it'll just barrel her off the bike and be like, my bike. And I'm like, no. It's a tiny pink bike for a two-year-old.

Get off. But no, they did really well. And I think they've had a lovely time. But yeah, we just need to get back to some normality now. Did yours? Yeah, we, to be fair, it's hard because I don't ever really talk about what we get for the children, because I'm not somebody that ever shares that kind of thing. But we bought, we got Renlié, Tony's.

and upgraded Tony's box because he loves his Tony's and he got some books with that and some other little bits. And then we just got him a little driving simulator and he's obsessed with Pepper Pig. So family bought him. Pepper Pig. Like everything is Pepper.

Oh, Pepper, George. Pepper George. Pepper George. And then we have taken him over. We took him through the Christmas period to Pepper Pig. Oh, I need to do that. Oh, and it was honestly, it was empty. We didn't queue for one ride.

It's the first time in my whole life of going down there with Colby since he was two that I've ever seen it so empty. So we took him down there. So that was kind of like his Christmas treat was to go down there and he got some pepper toys. And then Colby's, he doesn't really ever ask for anything. He got a few games for his Nintendo and a football goal because he loves to be outside. But no, they were all really, really happy and it was, yeah, it was perfect.

But we were going to do bike and scooter. But I thought, I'm going to wait until this because of two in March. I know. So I ain't got long, haven't we? I know. But yeah, no, it was all very lovely. Got this lovely jump from Chrissy, got very spoiled. Is that you and him?

No, that's the babies. Oh, yeah, about the Apple Tower? Yeah. It's my, um, me from Paris when we went. Isn't that cute super two? You got an embroidered on. Such a thoughtful gift. So no, I got very spoiled.

It's very nice. Because we don't normally do gifts for each other and then he just whacked out some gifts. Did you get something for him? Or was it like, oh, I do. No, I say no gifts, but I love to give a gift. Oh, you're like, no gifts. He's like, but that means I do want one.

And I'm like, no, I don't actually want one back. I'd just love to give gifts to everybody. Yeah, yeah. Me and Stefan swapped perfumes that we both asked each other for. So it wasn't very, like, thoughtful. Could have just bought your own. I went to Joe Malone and he just went and got mine. We just swapped on the day.

Oh, he's got me some nice pajamas as well. That's very sweet though. So all round, we've done great. Good well, yeah. We've done wonderful. Right, well, that's enough from us. We want to know how you are doing. Yes, please email us.

Hello at secret mumpod.com or with SecretMumpod on TikTok and Instagram. Next, we've got some. of your messages. Welcome back for the first time this year. I feel like I'm going to be saying that all day. It's time for the Correspondence Corner. I don't know. I'm going to live.

Yeah. Thank you. Glad you got that. So I'm not. Let's have the first one, please. Okay, we've heard back from Natalie from our Christmas app. Do you remember this? Yes.

She kept having babies at Christmas. Well, say she kept having babies at Christmas. She had one. She had another one, due. Okay. She was heavily pregnant and due on Christmas Eve when she wrote in. excited to know if she was going to have the baby over Christmas. Yeah.

I'm gassed. I am invested in this. She says, Hi, beautiful ladies. I hope you both had a fabulous Christmas. I had to write in while sat in my PJs, stuffing my face with chocolate on Christmas night after listening to your latest episodes. I'm the very tired mummy with a three-year-old and now one-year-old, last year's Christmas Day baby.

And I can officially update you that I now have a newborn. Baby number three was due on Christmas Eve, but made his appearance on the 20th of December. Oh, so close. So close. Kind be given me a few days to recover before the madness of Christmas and a first birthday. He definitely knew I needed a Christmas drink this year. Love you both. Keep being amazing.

Oh, that's perfect. That is perfect. Isn't it? And she got to have a Prosecco. We did say that, didn't we? A drink on Christmas Day. A drink on Christmas Day. And it's like enough time to like get out of the hospital.

Yeah. Get yourself. I mean, it's only five days. But like a little bit more sorted. Yeah. Yeah. She wanted to make it special for the other two. Yeah.

So to have it still so special, she had enough time. Yeah. So for baby number three. Two, it was like a Christmas day, a first birthday and a new baby brother. Yeah. Yeah. How exciting. Wow. That's really exciting. Yeah. That does feel really magical. I always thought I wouldn't like a baby near Christmas, but that sounds really nice. Sounds really magical, doesn't it? Oh, well, congratulations. I'm so happy. Thank you for letting us know. I know. I'm glad you've updated us because I listened back to that episode when I was. I was desperate. I was driving around and I was like, I wonder what's going on. Is she had him yet?

Yeah. Thanks Natalie. Okay. One last message here. It says, hi, your ladies. I got in touch a little while. ago about my little girl Freya being completely obsessed with her daddy. I listened to the episode and honestly took on board everything you said and it really hit home. I realized how much emphasis I'd put on dad because I was at home on Matt leave and that was the only exciting thing in my day. Also the mama thing, she literally only said it when she wanted something probably because she knew I'd be the one to get it. Things are so much better now. I'm getting called mummy and my husband gives her things and says, go and give that to mummy which makes me feel a million times better. Even though we're deep in toddler tantrums, illnesses and sometimes just

surviving until bedtime, you are getting me through. I've listened to all the recent episodes and I'm now going back through the ones I missed from 2024. I don't even listen to the radio anymore. It's just you too. Thank you for getting me through the trials of motherhood. Lots of love Emma and Freya. Oh my gosh. And I love that dad's getting involved as well. I know. I hope they've had a really wonderful chat and talked about it. Yeah. And he's making a conscious effort to also do the same. But he's true. When you're in the depths of newborn toddler, you're at home with the baby or toddler all day

every day, your only exciting thing is maybe your mum popping around or your sister or your partner coming home. So all day you're like, oh, we'll have to show that to Daddy. Shall we make some drinks for Daddy? And you're making such an effort to talk about Daddy. And I think I did it because

I was like, Chris used to say to me, gosh, what if I go to work and he forgets about me? So I used to make a conscious effort to talk about Daddy while he wasn't so that when he did come home, they'd be like, oh, we made some cakes. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. But I really love that.

Yeah, it's such a natural thing to do, I think. And it's like, I totally understand that feeling of like, yeah, it's the only exciting thing that happens in your day sometimes is knowing that, like, someone's going to walk through with all. The days are long. Which sounds really sad. It does. Yeah.

The days are long and can be really, really lonely. So like to talk out. And they can't talk back some of them at a certain point, can they? Yeah. You're talking away to them. But obviously, as well, where she's there all day. and she needs something, she'll say, Mom. Yeah.

So when Dad's there, you know? That's how the default parent ends up becoming, like, the boring one. Yeah. This is what it was like with my mom and dad. My mom used to get pissed off. Like, my dad would come home and would be like, Daddy! She'd be like, yeah, I've had to like deal with all this shit all day. And you don't appreciate me.

Then when you get older, you're like, oh, yeah. My mom was holding it all together. Or when you definitely become a mom and you go, right. You get it. I get it now. You get it now. Yeah. And then when I go to work, I'm like, piece of piss.

Compared to being at home. Oh, thank you, Emma. We hope Freya's doing wonderful, and you both had a wonderful, well, all of you had a wonderful Christmas. And thank you for getting back in contact. Well, I'm super excited to be back. Me too.

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