Secret Mum Club with Sophiena - The D&V Diaries

Episode Date: November 5, 2024

Sophiena and the family have been battling a nasty bug, bringing with it the dreaded D&V (diarrhoea and vomiting). Meanwhile, Emma experiences the bittersweet milestone of sending Sadie off to nursery for the first time. Plus, we’ve got a secret to share about the infamous Poo Ninja making a surprise attack in one mum’s bathroom! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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So formal. I liked it though. I felt like it's more welcoming. Yeah. And I'm Emma. Welcome to the room, Emma. This podcast is a safe space for mums everywhere. A safe space to share our secrets. Because we all have secrets, don't we?

We do, and as we know, sharing is caring. You don't even have to tell us who you are. You can keep that to yourself, you can be anonymous. And those secrets can be serious or silly. All secrets are welcome in the Secret Mum Club! That was like, I'm a celebrity, get me out of here. But fuck, we just did it without looking. We did it without looking for the first time ever in episode 90. That literally reminded me of when they go, I'm a celebrity, get me out of here.

We need the camera to like pan out. When they have the little hats with them. Dun dun dun dun dun dun dun. Dun dun dun dun dun dun. Dun dun dun dun dun dun. Did you know what this is? This is my toggles. No, toggles on the hat. Corks on the um... I love your cork.

Corks on the Australian pop your cork. We've got some... Blah blah blah blah. It's because we're shitting our pants about it. Sorry I sound like I'm on the wrong line today. You sound nice. I sound like I should be on another line. You sound husky.

But people are paying for this. Yeah. I should talk to them. I'd pay good money. ASMR, ASMR, ASMR. ASMR. Oh, I shouldn't do that with that voice. Should I?

Fucking hell. Jesus Christ, too much. You don't need a visual on that. Guys, but we have some exciting news. We do. Not only have we announced that we have our first ever live show on the 21st of November at 7pm. Oxford House, London.

Oh, sorry. Yep. Unfortunately, I don't know why I'm telling you those details because unless you get a ticket, you can't come. It's sold out. It's sold out. We sold out bitches. We had a little bit of a nightmare though with it because it sold out so quickly. Yeah. But then I think people put the tickets in their

baskets and it didn't time out for ages. Yeah. So we had a bit of a process of back and forth, back and forth. Yeah. We obviously announced that it sold out and then people were like, I can still get tickets. I just bought a ticket in the middle of the day. Yeah. But I think they were sitting in people's baskets and people weren't checking out. So we had a little bit of a, but after 24 hours, we officially sat and said that our first ever live show is sold out.

I'm so excited. I'm shitting my pants. Well, yeah. I'm nervous as fuck. That too. I'm taking my whole family. You're taking your whole family and I'm taking no one. Mom, dad, sister, brother-in-law,

all four children of hers, not mine. I'm not bringing anyone. I don't know why you're doing that. Me, Kassa, Sue Kassa. You can have mine for the night. I don't like doing like, do you know, like if I was going for like a job interview and Stefan would be like, Oh, practice the questions in front of me so I could see. I'd be like, no, that's my worst nightmare.

He would do it like the other way around. He had to practice a speech the other day and he did it in front of me. So I want to see like what you think. Where was he doing a speech? I would. Well, we can't say a funeral, but I would never do it that way around, but he would be like, Oh, I want to see the feedback or just like practice it or run through it. And I'm like, no way, especially not to your other half. I feel like it's different to my mom and dad. No, I still would have like Chris is out in the back doors, like he's out the back with the children. Like I don't

want him in front row. No, I don't want me mum and dad. No, in the front row. No, cheering me on. It's not for me. They're my biggest cheerleaders. I love like that people without them to have an itchy legs. I would have never been there. No, that's true. That's true. I love that people are supportive, but I just know she said they can come to the next one. But we said that's Wembley. Yeah. 75,000 tickets. Plenty of space for them there. They come to the next one. I want to just, you know, you want to just relish in this one. Just relish in this one. Just have something for myself. And also the kids like you take this very seriously though. This is your job and you wouldn't take your sisters to your job. Whereas me, I'm just me I'm just like fuck it. Everyone fucking come along. We'll take some people off the street.

We'll take anyone. No we're very excited and I'm so excited to meet everyone that's managed to get tickets. I had some lovely messages on Instagram. People that can't wait to come so I'm really excited to see everyone. It's nice that people get to see us in the flesh. I know. Touch us. Speaking about bringing family everywhere they're all here today aren't they? They're all here today. There were kids bloody everywhere on my commute this morning. It is the half term. Yeah. So they're coming to the live show. Colby asked me every day if he's going to be on the stage. I said, absolutely. Absolutely not. He's so excited about it. Absolutely. This is my song. This is my moment. This is my perfect moment.

Not with you. Alone. Yeah. No, they're gonna be there. They were brilliant when they did the episode. They're so, so very excited. And I'm a big fan of Roxanne, obviously. So she needs to, need to get her involved.

Get her on the stage. Because when she was in my seat, I loved those episodes. She did all right. You were so sweet. Cause you messaged me as soon as you listened to it. Were you on your hot mum walk? I was on the nap lap. I was in the car and I listened to them back to back and she had me rolling honestly.

She's low key funny. She's low key your energy. Yeah. She's not like you at all. No. No. She's very subtle. She's very you. She's very like you at all. No, no. You know, like she's very subtle.

She's very you. Yeah. She's very low key. She like she just blend into the crowd. Yeah. But then she was coming out with some absolute caucus. She was. She's very...

Hearing about like you guys growing up, I was ruffling. She's very dry. She is. She is wonderful, Roxanne. Yeah. She's a treasure. Yeah. But then I love that we're so different.

You are so different. So different. And I don't think people realize. So when I say to you at school, when they were like, that's your sister, because people couldn't believe like that is my sister. I loved hearing about like that she went through like a goth phase and you were like a bit more chavvy. Yeah, I was like Creoles, clowns. Burberry socks.

Yeah, Burberry socks. Tucked into your trackers. Yeah, Rockport. Yeah, I was more on your vibe. Yeah, yeah. Roxanne was the flares that were so big they would didn't even fit around our waist oh yeah and they drag in the rain and oh yeah and they were all ripped and there was fabric hanging everywhere my mom used to go mad and used to tell us to take them off on the doorstep she'll be like

I'll take those up for you no I don't want them to fit me mum this is the look she was smoking weed down the park and you were drinking lambrini. Yeah, doing wellies in the park. Opposite parks though. She was mainly in the depths of the trees, smoking all the weed. She was in the forest. You were on your fixie bike in the park.

Yeah, I was doing woo hoo! On the roundabout with a bottle of lambrini. Woo hoo! 2020 in the eyeball. I loved hearing about all that. It was real insight into your life. It's nice isn't it? I like the little delving. You've got to get your sissy in now. Yeah.

We've got it all about you. Yes. You wanted my mum on didn't you? Your mum is an absolute babe. I actually generally fell in love with your mum. She is a rocker. Nanny Nick. People do say she's, we have my nephew's birthday party the weekend and a few of my sister's friends were like, your mum's very glamorous. She is so glamorous. She's like, I'm not. But I think she's always very well presented.

She's just so edgy and cool, isn't she? Yeah. She's got a real choppy cut. She's just funky as fuck. Yeah. But honestly, did she eat anymore vomit at the party? She did. No, just bit of birthday cake this time.

If you missed the episode, go back and listen to the, I can't remember what we called it. It was called like the... Nick ate vomit. Mum ate vomit. Mum ate a lump of sick off her shoulder. She ate that chip. The sicky situation. It was a sicky situation. Tell me about your age. But we're truly having a ball at the moment, aren't we? We've been sick, sick, sick. Yeah, we have. When I say we've been sick, we've been sick. We've been sick. There's been diarrhea coming out of every human in the house, every orifice. And we had vomit. Oh God. We also had vomit from Colby. Who was patient zero? Colby? Spread it to everyone. Yeah. I don't know. I think it was Chrissy. He was so bad,

he couldn't do the school run because he was shitting himself. Yeah. I had to do it. Took one for the team. Were you, were you all right? I was the next, I think I was two days after actually. I got a bit, but I just got this weird, I lost my voice for three days. Yeah, yours is quite sexual. I know. I don't want to say it's here forever, so soak it up. Soak it up well at last. I generally couldn't talk the other day. Every time, Chris was wetting himself because every time I talked my voice broke. I quite like it when that happens though. You have to go on like voice rest. Like my

sister said, you need to go on voice rest. I went for a fucking month. She went, well, you can't sound like that on the podcast. I said, we'll get some more people in. Save that voice for live show. But no, it's been, it's been okay. We start the school holidays truly with a bang. Yeah. With the shits. Yeah. Yeah. And never been so full of shit in my life. The D and V. The D and V. Horrible isn't it when it's coming out of both ends. I thought it was deep vein thrombosis but that's T. Oh that's DVT. I always said to my dad and my dad went, what you got DVT? I went dad we got DVT and I went, my dad went what deep vein thrombosis? I was like no sickness and diarrhea dad. I was like the SD. My dad went, what? Deep vein thrombosis? I was like, no sickness and diarrhea, dad. I was like, the SD? My dad was like, sexual disease? You've got a sexual disease? No, dad, sickness and diarrhea. No, we're just shitting ourselves and being sick.

It literally was the conversation, dad. We got a DVT, deep vein thrombosis. No, the SD, sexual disease. No, fucking hell dad. We've got the shit. Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ. But no, it's been good. We're up here now. We've got a couple of days up here. Yeah, nice. Which is exciting. We're off to the Paddington Experience. I've booked us in. Are you?

And we're off. Oh, it's really good. I'm very excited. Also got Renly a little Paddington outfit. Oh, stop. He's not dressing like the bear. It's just a little pair of dungarees from Primark. He loves the theme dress, Renly, doesn't he? He's in a little pumpkin sweater today. He is in a little pumpkin sweater today, getting ready for the Halloween.

Then we're off to the pumpkin patch on Thursday. Lovely. And we've got Halloween party. Oh. Friday, I'll be dead as fuck. Yeah. Yeah. Then the weekend and then back to school.

Yeah. But you can't wait. So sad. Yeah. So very sad. Although I'm off to the live, I'm off to the award. Yes. I've been nominated. You got nominated for an award on your own. But you've been on audio for fucking forever. You're basically a fossil now, aren't you?

You can't be best new voice to audio. God, can you imagine? You got best new voice. Hello guys. Thank you so much for listening. I should have got nominated for best old voice. You should have. voice. Hello guys. Thank you so much for listening. I should have got nominated for best old voice. You should have. No, but congratulations. I think it's very well deserved.

I just am so incredibly grateful. You know, the nomination itself is huge. Well, when someone gets an Oscar nomination and they don't win, they still put on the film posters Oscar nominee. Yes. So, still use that nomination. I've taken that. I've been on my CV. I mean, I'm never quitting this job, but you know. When you need a new job. It's good to have it on the curriculum vita.

No, I'm- Is it a curriculum vita? Yeah, curriculum vita, I think. Oh yeah, there you go. Or the resume, as they say in America. The resume's when you're leaving. I'm handing in my resume. I think resume's like American for CV. Oh, what's it when you quit?

Resignation? P60. Is that right? P45. I don't know what it is. But yeah. It's so exciting. Got an exciting few weeks coming up.

It's been a wild few weeks, honestly. Not only did we get the D, no one got any dick because we were shitting us. Got the D. We got the nomination, the live show went out. It was wild. It was a wild few days. I couldn't even celebrate, I literally had to do a story to say that the tickets were going live

while I was shitting myself. Phone mass and I was like, I'm shitting my pants. But you know, the tickets are selling. I'm happy. I'm L-I-V-I-N. L-I-V-I-N. It's been wild, I'm delirious. I don't know what day of the week it is, what time.

Because we're here on a day that we're not normally here as well, which always throws you off, doesn't it? We've got two days in a row, haven't we? It's very confusing. We've got a lot going on at the moment. We're busy people. We're busy. We're busy mums.

Yeah, we are. Single mums who get to doves. But no, that's my week. It's quite a big one. Sorry. Yeah, that was a lot for you to digest, wasn't it? How's your week been? We've had the opposite problem in our house. Constipation.

Fuck. Constipation station. I thought you were going to say loads ofation. Fuck. Constipation station. I thought you were going to say loads of fun. No, it's never fun. It's never fun with two small children. You did tell me something huge though. When you walked in here.

Do you want to share it with our friends? Oh, Sadie, she had a settling in session at nursery. She's going proper tomorrow. Not proper proper, like Joseph goes eight till till six she's going eight till three. So it's like her longest. Eight till three I can't imagine even Renly for eight minutes. Yeah well that's a fucking lot. Mom's gonna work. How do you feel about that? Excited. Because you are going to return back to your I was going to say your actual job. My real job my serious job. I feel like this is your real job. Yeah I mean this has been my real job like since I had the baby. This has provided you through maternity leave. What an absolute joy.

Providing. I'm going back to my radio job in January. With Dave. Yeah, with Dave, with DB. So I do kind of need to get her ready and, like, used to be away from me. And also, it's just quite hard to, like, entertain her now. Like, when we first came to the podcast and she was newborn and she would just like sit on me and feed, that was fine. But now they're just, they're quite busy. We were talking about how much they're wiggling.

Like Renly is proper wiggling out. He scurries like a little action man now backwards. Well, do you know what I read the other day? Lodges himself under the couch. Just see these two eyes under the sofa. Hello. Joseph used to do that. I read the other day that between seven and 10 months, they start crawling.

So we're at the seven months now. Hold back the fuck up. I'm like nine days away from being eight months. Eight months. Yeah. Yeah. So it'll be soon. We're knocking on the door.

And I think Renly and Sadie are quite like, well, compared to Joseph, Sadie is really mobile. Like she's- But I said to you, it will be with a girl. Yeah. And she's a bit smaller. Like Joseph could need me bothered to like lift his massive head up because he had that 98% old head. You know, he was like, he's got a big brain. The boys fucking clever as fuck. He's a genius.

But Sadie, she's like nimble. She's so like grabby with her hands. She's like into everything. She was rolling from early. So I feel like she's going to be like, she rolled early. She was here. Wasn't she? She rolled off the table. She went back and forth on the changing. like she's gonna be like, she rolled early. She was here. Wasn't she? She rolled off the table. She went back and forth on the changing map. She's sitting up now. That's a new development. Wow. So I think crawling is like the next thing on the list. We're clapping now. We got the clap down to a T. But not that clap. Sorry. Sorry. I'm not even getting any in she legs. Yeah, it'd be impossible. It'd be a bloody miracle. Like a bloody miracle.

Yes. He's very advanced with his clapping. Because when I saw your video, I was like, fuck, Renly's clapping. I was like, Sadie. Sadie, sit the fuck down. Clap in boot camp. Let's fucking go. Watch Renly now. Get him on FaceTime.

Right, clap to her. No, she's nowhere near. She just looks at me like, what are you doing? What the fuck? How did you get him to do that? Don't know. Don't know. I think it's because I put a lot of my face in his face. In his face. Yeah.

You will clap. Yeah. And you'll enjoy it. He's really good. If you're happy and you know it, and he actually does it, clap your hands. Don't, because I will cry. It does make me very emotional. It's Kevin. But I feel like the, I think the interaction of the older two, like I will hands down say that Colby is his favorite human. Like Colby makes like, they both make him laugh

and he adores them both. But the moment Colby walks in the room, Renly will literally scream with pure enjoyment. Like the excitement on his face when he sees them on the school pickup. And I think because them to interact with him so much, like the moment they get home from school, they're all on him. And I think because they're doing so much with him so much. But the moment they get home from school, they're all on him.

And I think because they're doing so much with him, that he's taken on not only me, Chris and them two, because I feel like we're really lucky. We were saying about Sadie being back in, putting her into nursery, you and Steph are both working. This is the thing. And I feel really lucky.

I've got Chris at home, haven't I? So it's just, our situations are so completely different. So different. And I actually think like it's nice for her, it's nice for her and Joseph to be in there together. Because when she had a settling in session, he actually loved that she was in there with him. And they sent me a couple of pictures

and they were like playing in the ball pit together. And I think he actually really liked it. And also since we've come back from Spain and he's had a bit of an adjustment period of going back into nursery, he's not been very happy to go in. He's been, I dropped him off this morning and he's been quite-

You had a lot of time together though, the four of you didn't you? We did, exactly. And also we've had a lot of upheaval recently in general, like since we've been back anyway, we've been back to Wales like two weekends in a row. We went back to my mom and dad's last weekend. So it's been quite of a like unsettled period for him.

And a lot of people to occupy it. A lot of people to see. So he's been quite of a like unsettled period for him. And a lot of people too. A lot of different people to see. So he's not been that happy going in. So I think her going in with him is actually, it kind of makes it a little bit easier cause we're like, you know, it's a new thing and it's exciting. And he'll still have his days where he's on his own,

won't he? Still has his days on his own. So he gets a day with Sadie, but also gets his day where it's like his day. Yeah. Well, I don't know how he's going to react to like her being there some of the day and then not being there because he's suddenly going to be like, Oh, so they do the same day, but

he'll stay till six and she'll get picked up at three. I've got to pick her up at three because I thought a full day for her is quite long and I still have to feed her and stuff. Yes. So I don't know how he's going to respond to that, but he's excited about her going in. So I'm hoping that will be like a nice thing for them to do together. And then it just makes work a little bit easier. Yeah, takes the pressure off of you.

Just take the pressure off because they're just so busy now. And you get some time to you. Yeah, exactly. I feel very free. Me and Sadie spend a lot of time together. So I feel like Stefan's got her today and I just feel very like free of the responsibility of like getting her in here, keeping her happy, keeping her fed, you know, you know how it is. How is she feeding? Because we've, you've tried solids. Yeah, but that's, I think that's what made her constipated because the sudden switch onto food. Oh, it wasn't Jo!

Joseph wasn't. Sorry, I don't know why I went in straight with Jo then. I got so overexcited. So they've both been constipated. Both of them. So I think hers was the switch to food, which I don't know why her body is just like struggling to adjust or I don't know. But we've only given her like fruit and veg.

Nothing that would like bung her up. But I don't know. Bless her. She had a couple of days where she was really like straining to get it out. but we've only given her like fruit and veg, nothing that would like, bung her up. But I don't know, bless her, she had a couple of days where she was really like, straining to get it out. So we've tried a few like prunes and stuff like that, which has really helped soften the poo. So she's all right now.

Joseph is holding it in, cause he doesn't, no longer likes going on the potty or the toilet. Such an a well win with this poo training. Well, we started off on the potty training and all my friends were like, oh, you know that poo thing's gonna happen where they hold their poo in and blah, blah, blah. And

I was like, no, I was like, he's been great pooing so far. Which is really, really surprising for Joseph, isn't it? Yeah, he started off absolutely fine. And now it was actually, I think, going back to nursery where they have a little toilet. And he said to them a few times, like, I don't poo here, I poo in my potty at home. But that made him kind of like scared. Yeah, and then holding it in. So I don't really know what to do about him because he's still on his laxatives. And we've potty at home, but that made him kind of like scared. Yeah, and then holding it in. So I don't really know what to do about him

because he's still on his laxatives and we've opted to every day now to try and just make sure he has to go. But he's really good at holding it in. Like when I sit him down, he's like, and he'll cry on the potty because he doesn't want it to come out. And I bought him one of those toilet pieces.

How do you put him in a nappy? Well, the other night I put him in his nighttime nappy and he did, he pooed in his nappy. Then I thought I don't want him to wait until nighttime and then keep pooing in his nappy. So I remember one time, I think I had this, I don't know if it was Colby or Dottie, but I put a nappy on and then sat them onto the potty.

And did it. And then did it and then took the nappy straight off and put the pants back on. Yeah. And he or she, I think it was Colby to be honest. I think she, I think he went then and then I just took nappy straight off. The problem is I don't want him to be like,

oh, well I know I'm getting a nappy on at night so that's the only way I'll do it. Cause one of my friends has got that problem. She's like, he saves up his poo all day and then he does it at night. So just as we're putting him down to bed, we've got to change a pooey nappy. Yeah, that's annoying. So I don't know, we're just trying to like talk him does it at night. It's just as we're putting him down to bed, we've got change of pooey nappy. Yeah, that's annoying, isn't it?

So I don't know, we're just trying to like talk him into it at the moment. I've got him a seat for the toilet to see whether he prefer going on the toilet. But he's funny, like whenever you ask him if you need to go, he goes, I'm just fine actually. And then if you ask him again, he goes, I'm still fine. Oh my gosh.

Or he says, I've been. And I'm like, yeah, you need to go more than once a day. Yeah, you need to go more than once. I've just been on the potty, mom, stop nagging me. Get off my gosh. Oh he says I've been and I'm like, yeah, you need to go more than once a day. Yeah, you need to go more than once. I've just been on the potty mom, like stop nagging me. Get off my ass. Yeah, I don't know. I don't need a shit.

And it was when I was dealing with Sadie's constipation at the bloody memory services on the M4 that I dropped my bloody phone down the toilet. Yeah. Cause I was like this, like trying to deal with her. She was crying, getting a poo out. So I'm like trying to sort her out. I was desperate for a wee, so I'm on the toilet. Phone fell out my bloody pocket didn't it? Gosh, right down

the toilet. Honestly, we've had a right few weeks of it. We both have to be honest. We've been we've been through this. I'm excited. We literally have. I'm excited to just be in one place for like a few weeks now and like just be at home and not go anywhere. Yes, because we've been all over the shop. Nothing beats home. It doesn't. Nothing beats home. Especially with kids and routine. Yes, it's the rue fucking team. When you break that routine, it's just like all hell breaks loose. Renly's down to one, two bottles a day. That's it. He just has a night time and a bedtime. Sometimes he goes to bed. And just food in between. He's literally full on downstairs today just eating a croissant. Just fully eating a croissant. Bloody hell. The boy is an absolute eating

machine. My sister said the same about my nephew. She's like, he's on four meals a day. I'm like, Sadie's like a little bird. She's like, that's a little bit. And then she's like, okay. Okay, that's enough. Put me back on that booby. I'm done now.

Yeah. Yeah. We need to get off that as well before I go back to work. That's the next thing. Take it in your stride, hun. One thing at a time. Yeah, one thing at a time. Don't overload yourself.

No, I know. Emma and I really want to hear from you. We want you to join us in thing at a time. Don't overload yourself. No, I know. Emma and I really want to hear from you. We want you to join us in the Secret Mum Club. You're all welcome. You can share your secrets with us, respond to what we've been talking about or just say hello. You can find us on TikTok and Instagram. Just search for Secret Mum Pod or you can email us hello at secretmumpod.com. It's time for the Correspondence Corner. It's not good for the correspondence corner. It's not good for the vocals today. So Emma, take it away. What have we got? All right. We've had loads of responses actually after you talked about Dottie feeling anxious recently.

I might cry about this situation. This one says, Hi ladies, I've grown up with food and animal allergies all my life. And when I was around Dottie's age, I developed a fear of everything too. When I was seven, I suddenly developed a fear of eating anything and eventually I was scared to touch things in public, worrying about allergens. I only ate at home and things got worse until my mom took a bold approach.

She made me hold closed jars of food I was allergic to and even did things that scared me in my vicinity to show I could handle it. I'm not sure if this will help, but maybe Dottie could benefit from an adventurous trip to somewhere like center parks with lots of activities like high ropes and archery. Seeing others do things safely might help her feel secure

and confident. Lots of love from Nikki. God bless you, Nikki. Do you know what? We have actually been doing things. We did our first ever Halloween trail. Oh. Mainly, was it for myself? Yeah we were walking around I was like, this

is just pretend, this is just pretend. Oh yeah, because you're a bit scared of the dark. I'm scared of the dark. I'm absolutely, and then Chris was like, oh, let's go. Cause he loves Halloween. I'm Christmas through and through. So we went along to a Halloween trail. Dottie started great and then we got a little bit spooky towards the end. But we did it, didn't we? And together... They put all these little white things on. And one said, do you want to be there hiding safe?

Yeah. And then we were like, fuck this. Me and her were legging it round the trail. But I thought we said, if mummy can do it, Dottie can do it. And if Dottie can do it. I'm not gonna let you do it. I'm not gonna let you do it. I'm not gonna let you do it. I'm not gonna let you do it. I'm not gonna let you do it. I'm not gonna let you do it. I'm not gonna let you do it. I'm not gonna let you do it. I'm not gonna let you do it.

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I'm not gonna let you do it. I'm not gonna let you do it. I'm not gonna let you do it. I'm not gonna let you do it. I'm not gonna let you do it. I'm not gonna let you do making. We have been making mainly sandwichy bits. Yeah. Mainly sandwiches. Last night I cut a little cucumber. She cut her cucumber, yes. So we're having a lot of things where we are actively doing it.

Yeah. And we're doing great, aren't we, darling? She had chili con carne at school the other day with nachos. Yum. Yum, but it's talking about it. So I was like, like, do I take the approach where I talk about it or do I just ignore it? And it was a really hard thing. Like we were here last week and unfortunately we had to cut the episode short

because I had a call from school. Yeah. Just being really honest. Um, and I was upset. I was upset here, took a call from school that Dottie was just refusing to eat at school. Um, and on the train home, I was kind of like, right, what school that Dottie was just refusing to eat at school. And on the train home, I was kind of like, right, what do I do? Do I just ignore this and pretend like it's not happening? Or do we have an open conversation? And we're quite an open family. We like to talk about things. And I was like, do you know what? We're just going to talk about it. I'm going to talk about my fears and what I'm worried about and let her know. Told her that I'm scared of the dark and I don't like spooky things. I don't really like Halloween. Like I'm scared to go to London by myself and walk around by myself. Like mommy's scared, but you have to do some things sometimes just

because you know, life has to go on and we have to see the world and we have to eat because eating makes us healthy and strong. So I just took the approach of we just talk about it and we're doing good. Yeah. We're doing good. And I hope that me talking about things that I find scary, she didn't have, I don't think she's old enough to understand what is scaring her or what she is finding scary. But I hope me talking about what makes me scared will allow her to feel that she can tell me what makes her scared.

So I thought that was the best. Yes. That was a normal emotion. It's a lot. Like it's a lot to it's a whole thing. Like I said to my dad, like no one said it was going to be easy, but no one told me it was going to be this hard. Like, and I think that's, that's the thing is that it is. It's so interesting how there's like a new challenge with every age. Every age. That you think like, Oh, I'll just get to this part and it'll be easier because I can explain it to them.

But then like something else happens where they get like a greater understanding of something. And then they're a bit scared. Like Joseph's only just understood what Halloween is. So now when we go past houses that are decorated, he's a bit like, oh, ghosts. Or like, oh, spiders. And I'm like, does he know that it's meant to be like spooky?

And it's meant to be fun. Or is he just taking it in and going, oh, there's a fake spider? I'm not going in there, Al. Fucking ain't that. He actually likes spiders. Oh, does he? Yeah.

Don't like flies, though. Don't like flies or bees. Yeah, he's very particular. But with each new age comes a new challenge, doesn't it? And like a greater understanding of like the world and emotions. And yeah, it's hard. It is hard. It's never easy.

It's never easy. but thank you, Nikki. I appreciate you so much. Yeah, thank you. I had another response from Taylor. It says, hi, Sophie and Em, one of my eight year old twins is also very anxious. Recently, I attended a child anxiety seminar that described it as the body's alarm system.

I learned that addressing his concerns, answering questions and redirecting with positive thoughts has helped us manage it. We practice deep breaths, positive affirmations and reassure him he's safe. I know he might always struggle with it, but I want to be a positive influence and help guide him on how to get through it. You're both wonderful moms and your children are so lucky to have you. Oh, much love all the way from Mississippi. Oh, Taylor. That is so that's basically what the approach we've gone out, which I think is the best one that's going to work for her. Taylor. That is so, that's basically what the approach I've gone. What you've been doing.

Yeah, that's the approach we've gone at, which I think is the best. The best one. That's gonna work for her. Yeah. Like would it have worked for Colby? Are they similar? Yeah.

Probably would have, because I feel like that in that aspect it would, because that's how I feel most comfortable to deal with the situation. But that is, that's so lovely, isn't it? Yeah. That makes me feel really warm and fuzzy inside. Like if there was ever a time that I was struggling,

like I would have, I don't know if I would have ever, ever maybe spoken to my mum about things like that. I don't think we would have when we were younger, just because there wasn't as much of like a conversation around it. You probably would have just been like, I'm just gonna keep this to myself. Like that's the worst thing you can do. Problem shared is a problem solved.

Yes, it is. But thank you, Taylor. I hope your twins are well. Twins. I hope they're really good. I wonder if the other twin is really confident. Same, all like really different. Yeah, because you said only one twin's anxious. So I wonder if the other one's really... And how, I wonder, being that they're twins, sorry,

this is like a twin thing, if the other twin helps with their anxiety. Interesting. Interesting. But thank you, Taylor. Yes, thank you. We've got one more here. It says, hello, lovely ladies. After hearing Sophie's story about Dottie's anxiety, I wanted to share mine.

My eight-year-old son has intrusive thoughts and struggles with bedtime, often worried about something happening to us. I'm a single parent, so we're both exhausted, and he only seems to fall asleep if he's in my bed. I worry I'm making things worse, but I'm unsure how to change it. I don't know where this started,

but all we can do is support them and make them feel safe. Keep going, mama. You're doing an amazing job. From Sarah. Oh gosh. You've got to ask Sarah. Yeah, God, may bad. The balls.

Tears are coming. That is hard because that was me. That was like my 11 year old self. I just had the most awful, yeah, I never slept. I suffered with PTSD, have done now since I was 11. Did you have to sleep in your parents' bed? I just never slept. You just were scared? Never, never slept. I suffered with PTSD, have done now since I was 11. Did you have to sleep in your parents' bed? I just never slept. You just were scared?

Never, ever slept. I just remember lying in my bed and I just remember, like I used to repeat things over it, like say good night to everybody and give everyone a kiss like in my head. And I just used to repeat the same things. Almost like obsessive compulsive behavior. I just would never, ever, ever fall to sleep. yeah. I just would never ever ever fall to sleep.

Never. And like when I used to fall to sleep, I used to wake up in such a panic. Cause I'm like, what did you think was happening to you? I just thought I was out of here. Gonna die. Yeah, yeah.

But I did go and see a counselor and that did really help. Did it? Yeah, yeah. But again, it was nothing I ever told my mom. I think my mom just got to the point where she was like, just kind of bugging me. That's the thing, isn't it? And you get frustrated like at bedtime,

Joseph started saying to me, I want to come in your bed. Because I think what he's realized in the morning is, Sadie is often in my bed. Oh, okay. When he comes in in the morning, because we, to be honest, halfway through the night, sometimes sooner, we basically start co-sleeping. Cause I can't be asked if I'm back in a cot.

And she sleeps better with me. And she hasn't been very well and all that. So he gets up and sees her in my bed. And so now when I try and put him to bed, he says, I just want to come in your bed. Or he says, come in my cot with me. I'm like, I can't fucking fit in there. But it's hard. And I think you just do whatever you've got to do to like get them to sleep. Because you're thinking I've got to go sleep myself in a minute. You need to sleep. That's the most important thing is because an exhausted you is an exhausted baby. So you do whatever you've got to do to get through and I think you're a single parent and that's even harder because you don't have somebody else to share that load with. No, but it sounds like you're doing phenomenal.

Yeah. Like for me, you made me emotional because that is, it's lovely, isn't it? And I feel like I was there, but I don't think I ever felt like I, I don't ever remember talking to my mom about it. I never remember talking to her about it. I just remember one day, like it had gone too far. Like my mom had seen that I was exhausted or maybe it'd come into my bedroom at night. And just saw that you weren't sleeping. Yeah. I just used to sit, sit with my knees crossed on my little cabin bed with my little fairies. And just saw that you weren't sleeping. Yeah, I just used to sit, sit with my knees crossed on my little cabin bed with my little fairies.

I used to count all the stars. So my mom hand painted fairies all in my room and there was like star trails and all my room was yellow. Like it was really pretty, but I used to sit and count all the stars every single night. Yeah. That's really heartbreaking. It's sad, isn't it?

It's really sad. It's sort of your cuddle. Oh, I'm okay now. Am I okay? I might be fucked from that. Yeah. You know, that's probably why I'm such a fucking lunatic now. So I don't know.

I think that's why generally now as an adult, I don't enjoy sleep. Like I think as an adult now, I don't enjoy sleep. Like if someone could say, would you rather have more hours in the day and lose sleep? Yes, give me all the fucking hours. If I didn't have to sleep, because otherwise I'd be like a zombie, the walking dead. I would give it up, give it up for them. I think it's really nice that in all these stories,

the children have felt like they can speak to their parents about it. And that means you're a good parent. That means you're doing a wonderful job. I appreciate you. Thank you. So you can get in touch with us on anything at all. Yeah, it can be serious or silly, and you can be totally anonymous.

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Let the gratitude flow. Visit betterhelp.com today to get 10% off your first month. That's betterhelp,help.com. So this is the secret mum club, the safe space for us to share our secrets. So here is my secret of the week. Are you ready? Obviously it's not my secret. I feel like we've not had one from our in a while. Okay. We're bringing in a secret from Dottie. Of course. We've had the shits. Yes. Right. I feel like you know where we're going with this. So we have had a really poorly week. So I took the school run single-handed because normally we do the school run together

as a whole family as a whole. Yeah. We do the school run as-handed, because normally we do the school run together. As a whole family? As a whole. Yeah, we do the school run as a whole. Because I feel like, again, I live for their moments because I feel like they're not going to last forever. So there might be a time where Chris doesn't do them anymore, you know, because he's gone back to work. He's not pulling his weight again.

Yeah, fucking lazy bastard. I took all three children on the school run. So Dottie was so sweet in the car and she was like, Oh, poor daddy. I really hope he's okay. Will you give him a kiss from me today? Please tell him that I love him. The whole way to school. I thought, Oh, that's adorable.

Cause Chris is, well, I was going to say he's not ill, he's ill more than, but the both of us, like he tends to be the more poorly I want, I am, he catches colds really quick and things. So we were walking in and went into the playground and Dotsie was, you know, just stood there and we were rushing that morning actually, no, weren't we? We were running a little bit late. So we rushed in and normally in the morning they have a bit of time to play, but we rushed in and I was like, Oh, give her a bag, gave her a kiss. And she was like, Oh, don't forget to tell daddy I love him and you know, tell him I hope he feels better soon. I was like,

yeah, yeah, yeah. I gave her a kiss. Then she turned back and she was like, oh gosh, I really hope daddy doesn't shit himself today. In the middle of the playground. I was like, that's so sweet darling, thank you so much. Just scurry on. I was like, don't talk about the fact that dad's got the shits,

because I don't want people like, no. And I've kept everybody separated and congregated in the house. Kept Chris in the bedroom, keep the babies and everybody away from him. So no one catches anything, picks anything up. And then yeah, I hope he doesn't shit himself. Yeah, me too.

And did he, or was he all right? I did generally think he did shit himself. Yeah. Maybe that should have been think he did shit himself. Yeah. Maybe that should have been my secret of the week. Yeah. But I feel like that's not that. Uncommon, I shit myself. Uncommon?

No. You do shit yourself all the time. Yeah. Very like, open with you. Full of shit. We're all full of shit. Very open with your turds. Very open with the turds.

It's not much of a secret really. I feel like this is a common occurrence now for my household. But yeah, that is pretty much my secret of the week. Wow. We've had a secret really. I feel like this is a common occurrence now for my household. But yeah, that is pretty much my secret of the week. We've had a wild week. Dot's back on form. She is back on top form. Glad to see you back in the secrets.

I would like to categorically state that we are all better. Did anybody else poo themselves? No, Colby, did you poo yourself? Colby put his hand up. Did you? You shouted. Where? He's like, mom, that pair of pants is waiting for you when you get home. Colby the other day, bless his heart, vomited. And I was like, go into the bathroom and stand by the toilet. Like if you're going to be sick, go be sick in the toilet. God love him.

I love you, Colby, with my whole entire heart. God bless you. He just stood at the toilet and just went, nowhere near the toilet. Wasn't like in the bowl, head in the bowl and just went, ahhhhhhhhh! Nowhere near the toilet. Wasn't like in the bowl, head in the bowl, just stood. Just like exorcist. Vomit through, up the hallway, up my legs, up Chris's legs. Wow. And Coby was like, ahhhhhhhhh! It's the most craziest vomiting I've ever seen

in my whole entire life. He literally just goes, ahhhhhhhhh! Like a cartoon. Like he doesn't just go, there. There. Ahhhhhhhhh! And he was just pouring, ah! Like a cartoon. Like he doesn't just go, bleh. Ah! And it was just pouring, pouring. But bless his heart, we, he got in the bathroom, but it was all down the toilet, it was all over the floor,

it was all up the hallway. Splashed up Chris's leg, splashed. I'm holding Renly like, what the fuck is going on? What the fuck? I'm shitting myself, Chris is shitting himself, there's vomit everywhere. It's a horrible feeling when you don't know whether to sit on the toilet or put your head down it.

That was Chris, I think the other day he said, I sat on the toilet for so long because I've been shitting that I just then vomited. I was like, Jesus Christ, this is too much. Or worse is when you spin around to do the vomit, but there's already a poo down there and you're like, oh, oh, ah, ah. This episode needs to come with a trigger warning. around to do the vomit, but there's already a poo down there and you're like, this episode needs to come with a trigger warning. Trigger warning. There's a lot of poop and vomit talk

in this. A lot of ASMR, sick sounds. It is truly wild. I just, I'm deluded from the week that's just happened. I honestly am delirious. Don't chunder in the sink because I did that in one house I lived in and it never drained properly again. Can't wash it. Did you not put no doctor drain on the blocker? Tried the Mr Muscle. Oh.

Chunks weren't. Loves the jobs you hate. Chunks weren't budging. Shit. Couldn't even move them carrots. So that's my secret. So now we're going to get into some of yours. We've got three secrets from you we're going to be discussing this week.

So Emma, let's have number one. Hello lovely ladies and babies. Hello, hello. Hearing all the other mums experiencing poo disasters reminded me of a time my daughter had a nappy explosion. We were picking up a... Picking up a penguin. Picking a penguin. Easy for you to say. Not a penguin. We were picking up a prescription and whilst at the doctor's my little girl exploded in her nappy. She was breastfed so it was very unusual and this time it really stank. Oh unusual I thought breastfed babies were loose anyway. Yes Sadie's were right up her back. Yeah I was going to say Sadie was quite loose with her poo.

Loosey goosey yeah okay. I quickly changed her in the car to find I had her poo on my leggings and as any good mum does, I wet wiped it down and carried on with our busy day. We met up with my family and spent the whole day together. Then suddenly that evening everyone started being sick. We were all dropping like flies. Little did I know, my little girl had the norovirus and I just wet wiped it down my leggings and passed it on to the whole family.

What doesn't kill us makes us stronger, right? Love the pod, Danielle in Wiltshire. Danielle, that story couldn't come at a better time with the week that I just had. Shit. Literally. Literally shit. Norovirus has very contagious, isn't it? And really bad.

Really bad. I've never had it, have you? Yeah, I've had it. That's just DMV, isn't it? I had swine flu. Do you remember when everyone... Did you? Yeah, that was probably 2006, isn't it?

Yeah, I was really sick. I generally thought I was paralysed. Couldn't get out of the bed. It's the first time did you? Yeah, that's 2006. Isn't it? Yeah, I was already sick. I generally thought I was paralyzed. Couldn't get out of the bed. So first time in my life, I'm a real thing. Yeah, I'm flu. Yeah. Oh, wasn't it the pigeons? The bird sounds like it comes from pigs. Swines. Bird flu comes from birds. Oh, what's the swine then? Swine flu was that thing. And I remember a pig? Yeah, but that outbreak was like when I went to uni. Do you know what I figured out the other day? Mutton dresses lamb. I never understand that terminology.

Mutton's an old sheep. It's a fucking old sheep. And I used to be like, oh, you're an old person trying to dress like a- As a young person. Mutton dress, oh, I never thought that. Yeah, because mutton is like the cheap cut of me. When people used to say, oh, how does my outfit look?

I used to go, fuck, mutton as lamb. Like it's a compliment. People used to be like, fucking cheeky bitch. Oh bitch. You look great. Oh god. I think I've even said it to my mum once. Yeah, Martin Dress as lamb, 10 out of 10. Happy New Year, mum.

How do I look? Martin Dress as lamb. Let's go, go, go. No wonder she fucking hates it. Yeah, no, it's not a compliment. No, I know. Very aware of that now. Very aware. Oh, Danielle, Danielle.

God bless you. Do you know what? Since Sadie's moved on to hard poos, I actually said to Stefan, I am grieving the loss of the loose poos. The loose poos. Yeah. I feel like it's the end of an era when you move on to the solid poos, isn't it? Yeah.

Renna's is on solid. I feel sad about that. So much so that you could flick it out of the nappy and put the nappy back on. Yeah, some of hers are like tires. You know, when you undo the nappy and it's just like stuck right around the crack. Yeah.

Ha ha ha ha. All right. Right, we're onto number two now. We have just skimmed over number two and we've just, the babies have left the room. Yeah, we've booted the kids out. We have to get the children out. They've gone to get me a salade. Because it was inappropriate.

Inappropriate. Okay, it says, Hi ladies. I just finished listening to the anonymous story about the girl seeing her dad's keyring and asking what blow job is. Yes. So I had to share my story too. Okay. When I was 10, I accidentally saw a video where a character asked what a

butt plug was. So I marched downstairs and asked my mum. She and my sisters couldn't stop laughing and told me that a butt plug was what some people use to plug their bums up when they have a really bad case of diarrhea. I believed that until I was 18. I believe it till now. Thanks for the laughs Shannon from Romford. I, in all honesty, I would, if someone was to say to me, you can get a butt plug to bung up your diarrhea. You would. Yeah.

I don't know what's the purpose of a butt plug? What does that do for you? Well, it's a sex toy. Yeah, but what? I don't know why. Your bum hole? Yeah. And what's that doing for you?

I don't know. I don't know why. What, your bumhole? Yeah. And what's that doing for you? I don't know. I don't know why. I'd be so, I'd be scared I'm gonna shoot out my bumhole mid sexual action and I'd be too scared to do anything. That's where some people's like G-spot is. What, in their bumhole? Up the bum. I thought it was just in men's bumholes.

I think it can be, yeah, anyone. Do we have G-spot in our bumhole? I think women can. Oh. I think butt plugs can be used by anyone. Maybe they have G-spot in our bum hole? I think women can. Oh. I think butt plugs can be used by anyone. Maybe they are used more by men. Don't know, I'd be interested to do a survey. Men may use them in normal action.

What, but on themselves? I don't know where I was going with that one, to be honest. I'm just so confused by the whole butt plug. My mom, where's this going? My mom and dad love a buttplug. My mom was on the Boots website the other day, because as an advantage card holder,

you get shown all these things that are on sale on your email or whatever. She's scrolling through, scrolling through, scrolling through. She was like, Boots, I've got a buttplug for sale. What? I was like, Boots, the chemist? Yeah, they sell sex toys.

So my mom clicked on it just to have a look. And now after that she was like, oh my god, because it's on like her cookies now and on her history. She keeps getting all these butt, showing butt plugs all the time. And I'm like, yeah, all right, mom. Yeah. Yeah. She's like, I just clicked on it by accident.

Now it keeps showing them to me. I don't want a butt plug. And I'm like, yeah. Yeah. She's searching. Is that in on it by accident. Now it keeps showing them to me. I don't want a butt plug. And I'm like, yeah. Yeah, she's searching. That old chestnut. Is that in case you go on her laptop? I'm like, mom, why the fuck are you searching for butt plugs?

Yeah. She was like, Boots just showed it to me in the Advantage Card email and now I don't know what to do. I keep getting showed them all the time. I don't even know what one looks like. I think it looks a bit like a dummy. Should I text your mom? Yeah, let...

Nick! I need you to watch it. Ask Nick, she'll tell you. What do they look like? I think like a dummy, like a big, like an oversized baby's dummy. You've got to have something to pull it out by, haven't you? So it doesn't get stuck up there. What, there's not a rim to keep it on the outside? I think there is, yeah. There's like the plug bit, which is like that bit of the dummy, and then there's like a bit you can pull it out by, just like a baby's dummy.

Well, we don't advise putting any dummies up your bum. No, I'm sure I learned in history that they use corks to plug up their bums in the old days when they had diarrhea. So try that next time. Don't take meds for that. I'm not bunging my butt up, Jesus Christ. Can you imagine? From us.

You'd be in agony if you bunged it up. Yeah, no, let it out. Let it all out. Right, well, fucking swiftly moving on to the last one. Crumbs. Hello Emma and Safina. I had quite an embarrassing experience this week involving my 15 month old. Did you search your butt plug?

We were home alone and I really needed a poo. So I improvised. I scooped him up and took him to the bathroom with me. I thought he would sit and took him to the bathroom with me. I thought he would sit and play with his bath toys, but he was more interested in the toilet. Just as I was finished, I stood up and didn't realize he very sneakily made his way to the side of the toilet.

And before I had a chance to try and move him, oh, he had put his hand down the toilet and got my poo on his hand. He then smeared it all over the floor. I had no idea I was raising a poo ninja. Thank you for making such a relatable safe place for people to share these experiences. Anonymous. Can you imagine grabbing the whole turd out like it's a sword. Oh my God.

That's wild, isn't it? That is wild. See, that doesn't, I'm not bothered. I'm not bothered. I'd rather that than sick. Yeah, yes. Yeah, I think so. Yeah.

I don't know, I had to think about that for a split second. Yeah, that is mental, isn't it? Yeah. But it's so hard because in that moment, you just don't know what the fucking hell to do, do you? You're like, what the fuck? You feel like you're in a parallel universe. What is going on?

But also you're like, okay. You just touched my shit. I need to contain this baby. I need him to wash his hands. I've got to clean the floor. Like it's not sanitary. It's where they start grabbing down for the nappy. Yes.

And then they put their fingers in their mouth and you just think, I don't know where to fucking start with this. Back the fuck up. At least now you just have to put them outside the door. Why? Put the baby so he doesn't sit in the bathroom with you. Oh, yeah.

Put him on the outside of the door. Yeah, yeah. Mental, isn't it? But they're very mobile, like 15 months. But if you were to explain this to somebody that doesn't have children, like they would just be like, this is repulsive. But in a way you kind of look back and you laugh. It is funny.

Because it is funny. But also those times when you're just like, what can I do? Like I'm looking after these children and I'm going to shit myself. You got to come with me. Sit on that floor. You got to come. Don't touch my shit. Yeah. Literally my shit.

Yeah. I can't believe this whole episode should just be just be categorically a load of shit. The. Yeah. My shit. Yeah. I can't believe this whole episode should just be just be categorically. Yeah. A load of shit. The shit situation. This is a load of shit. A load of shit.

So it's been quite poo heavy, isn't it? It's been massively poo heavy. People know our interests. People know where we go. And if you don't like the poo, this podcast isn't for you. Because we love the shits. We do. But we don't actually love the.

We just have a lot of. Shit talk. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because we love the shits. We do. Well, we don't actually love the... We just have a lot of... Shit talk. Yeah. Yeah. Well, thank you, Anonymous. Thank you. Hope you've got over the poon army. Yeah.

Poon ninja. Touching your poo. Poon ninja. So thank you for sharing your secrets this week. Everyone is welcome in the Secret Mum Club. If you'd like to share your secrets with us, you can. The email is hello at secretmumpod.com or we're Secret Mum Pod on TikTok and Instagram.

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