Secret Mum Club with Sophiena - The First Word Fib

Episode Date: December 11, 2025

Soph and Emma are reacting to a listener's sneaky fib to her partner about their baby's first word... which gets them started on whether first words are an indicator for further down the line. Plus, we revisit Emma's trip out with her ex - but who's right, Soph, or Emma? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello, this is The Secret Mum Club. I'm Safina. And I'm Emma. And welcome to your Thursday's episode where we get to squeeze in all the extra bits and bobs from the week. Squeeze your bits. All of your comments, thoughts, questions and fun stories. Keep you going through the weekend. Show we jump bonie. It's time for another.

Correspondence corner. Sorry, I had frugging with. Always remind you if I'm a celebrity with Ant and Dick. Get me out of him! Don't, down, down, don't. We need to debrief, but we're going to be really late by the time this goes out, because it's already finished. It has finished. It has finished.

And it has brought me an insane amount of... Happy with the result? Oh, absolutely elated. I called it from day one. Did you? Yeah, I did. Were you happy with the win? I liked Tom.

Oh, yes. Either way, though, it got to the point where either way... I didn't mind. I was happy. No, I was really happy. But did Ginge win because he's got a big online. following, because I hadn't heard of him before this. So was it all of those?

I think you could say it about anything, couldn't you? You could have said, oh, Shona won it because of Estenders or, and she does, she does TikTok, Shona. I'm friends with Shona, have been for a few years now on TikTok. You know, it could be with anything. Yeah, I suppose. I feel like he was the underdog. Yeah.

I feel like he pulled through. And he just showed a side of him that was just so authentic. I just love that he loved the show. Oh, God. He was like, a true fan. Like, that's his whole childhood growing up. I always won it. Honestly.

But I feel like next year everyone's going to be like, who's angry, Ginge? Do you know when they have to come back and hand over the crown? No, do you think? Yeah. Yeah, so big commitment then, because you've got to go back the following year. Oh, God, got to go on holiday to Australia again, nightmare. I said, I need to be, I'm a civilian, get me out of here. I can't go on because I'm a celebrity, but I need to go on, I'm a civilian, get me out.

I'm just a normal person. Get me out of here. Okay. Are you ready? Yes, I'm ready. All right. This one is from Chloe. So it's hello, Sophie and Emma.

I've just listened to the Power Cut episode where you spoke about people planning their baby's birthdays for a specific month. Yes. My partner and I tried to do this after New Year's Eve in 2020. We really wanted a summer baby. Six months went by with no luck, so we stopped planning. Three years later, we discovered I have a heart-shaped uterus

and we were told we qualified for one round of IVF on the NHS. Oh, my gosh. A heart-shaped uterus. I've never heard of that. Yeah, well, obviously, it causes complications, but how beautiful. I mean, it makes it sound. My uterus is a heart shaped. Our wedding was in early September

2023, so we decided to wait until October to start the IVF once all the chaos had settled. Fast forward to the day before I was due to start my injections. And I found out I was pregnant naturally. And our little Harriet was born on the 20th of June 2024. So they got the summer

birthday. A happy, healthy summer baby girl. She's now 18 months old and truly the best planned surprise we could have asked for. Hope you and your babies have a lovely Christmas. Oh my gosh. You grow in our heart-shaped uterus. And again, I know, I know, and I don't want to be insensitive to it. But when, honestly, when you take that pressure off and you're just like, there's so many people that will say that they were going to start IVF or their first baby was IVF and then they were going to go for a second amount of IVF and then had a baby naturally.

Or they did it and it didn't work and then they got pregnant naturally. Yes. That happens a lot, doesn't it? Yes. And is it even called natural, you know, like, is a way? Non-assisted conception. Yeah, non-assisted. I just think it's so phenomenal.

It's amazing, isn't it? Taking that pressure off and just letting it go. You had so many other things to worry about with regards to the wedding and all of that going smoothly. And you just clearly let go your inhibitions and away she went. Oh, just perfect. I think a June birthday is so nice. It's a delicious birthday.

June, July, August, August may be on the cusp. If you can go early August, that's bang smack in the middle of the year. Yeah. We're six months to the day. Halfway through the year, great for the present planning. Weather's probably nice. Literally 26th and the 25th of six months, isn't it? 26th of July, 25th. Yeah. Could it be any more? Yeah. Any more perfect? Yeah. Well done. What can I say?

July babies are for the win. Yeah. But I mean all your babies. I'd take a June. I'd take a June birthday. Yeah. I mean any birthday. I would really love a Christmas Day baby. So if you could deliver that. No, I would hate that. If I could deliver that. Yeah, if you could bring that to the table because I'm not having any babies. No, that'd be a nightmare. You'd have to get pregnant in March, end of March. Oh. Okay. Okay.

Well, congratulations and I hope she's doing incredibly well. Not too far behind hours, are they? Yeah, a couple months. Also, realized yesterday when I was waffling away on TikTok. But Renly's actually, it was 21 months yesterday. I feel like you've been saying 18 months for ages. Yeah, I have. And he's 21 months.

He's 21 months yesterday. 21 months. 21 months. Oh, yeah, 21 months on Chris's birthday. Yeah, he was. It is hard, like the more people ask. I think for like the more babies that go on, you're like, how old are they? I don't know.

Nearly two. Yeah. Eat broccoli. Yeah. Don't really. On solids. Walking. Yeah.

I think you're due a mortgage. Walking, a bit of walking. I don't know. I've been saying to people, because we've met a lot of new people recently because obviously we've moved. Everyone's like, how old's a little one? 20 months. Loads people look at me like, what does that mean? Nearly two.

Yeah. Between one and three. to. I can't even work out the month's situ. So I would just go, it's when people go, oh, they're 45,000 weeks. And I'm like, how old are they? How old? And then they go, 12 months. Oh, no, I obviously know what 12 months is. Like 72 months. And then I'm like, I think you can stop it at two. In years. You wouldn't be like 25 months. No, I'd just say nearly one or nearly two. Yeah, but they're not nearly. And also I think people that don't have kids are like, why are you doing it in this weird way? But it's because so much changes between like, A 12-month-old and an 18-month-old and an 18-month-old and a 2-year-old are so different, that you need to, like, distinguish the months in between. But people that don't have kids are like... I just go nearly 2. Nearly 2.

They go, bloody hell! In Eiffelwood! He's been too? And I'm like... Yes, exactly. You've been saying that since he was like, since April. Since he turned 1, I just said it's nearly 2. My mum's been doing that my whole life.

She'll be like, she's nearly 40. I'm like, 37. I'm wishing my life away. That's not a lot of time. She's been rounding up my whole life. Yeah. I feel like we always round up, don't you? don't we?

You do? I do, yeah. Just for the ease. Always on to the next thing. Always on to bigger and better things. Okay, you ready for another one? Yes. One last message says,

Hey, ladies, I wanted to weigh in on Emma meeting up with her ex. Oh, here we go. If this is going to be negative, I don't want to hear it. If you're coming for me that this situation is okay. She's on my side. So I'm with you, girl. My ex-husband and I still hang out regularly, probably more than we should. Laughing crying emoji.

What does that even mean? Imagine it was like an OBBene emoji. What? I imagine it was a time. We probably hang out more than we should. That's a lot. Gosh. Come on, you ladies are two.

Oh, look at this. Oh, gosh. We still take our adult daughters on trips and outings together. One is his, one is mine. But we're a close unit. Stop it now. She was like, one is ours. Is it?

No. No, they've got one each and they go out together. As a couple, we were toxic, but after time apart and some self-reflection, we're great as friends and parents. Disclaimer, neither of us is in a new relationship almost two years later so who knows how that will go down the road. Right, hold on there.

This is different, this is different. Back up, right. This should have been our first intro line is in fact you're both single. They're basically dating. Yeah, this is basically normal. Neither one of you are married. Fine.

You're free single pringles. Yeah. Go for it. Shoot your shot. This sounds phenomenal. Do what you want. But this is completely not the same as Emma Situ. Emma's fully married.

It has been for a really long. time. Yeah, and so is George. And she's spending, I just spat then on the table. She's spending more time than she'd like to admit with her ex. We're not taking our children on outings together. Yeah, she is. Okay. She is. She just doesn't want to tell you that so she doesn't feel bad. Okay, this says, so who knows how that will go further down the road, but I think the right person will respect our family dynamic. And before everyone asks, no, there is absolutely no itchy legs happening, just friends. Sof is right, though. It totally depends on the situation and the ex. For example, I'm no contact.

with my daughter's father. Yes. Love the podcast and you ladies. Thanks for making life's adventures feel normal. I have more stories. I can't wait to share. Jessica from South Dakota, USA. Oh, Jessica.

Coming in from South Dakota. Wow. From all the way across the pond, people are still doing it. But it sounds like there could be potential. You may think she's agreeing with you, but she's actually agreeing with me here. She's kind of agreeing with both of us. She's saying it's fine, but she's agreeing with you because she's single. They're both single.

They're both single. Yes. So their situation is far different. So in no circumstances, if there's anything, your side. She's actually made me look worse. She's just seeing a pal. Yeah. She's just seeing a pal. Yeah.

That's all she's doing is seeing a pal, not having sex with him. And if she was to meet a new partner, he is her friend. He's not her ex. Well, he is, but he's her friend. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So they're saying, like, new partners would be fine with the situation, which would then put her more in my boat, in my camp. I respect you, Jessica, be a situation.

different okay but thanks for getting in touch i respect you jessica for taking my side thank you and thank you for agreeing with me she did say in both of them i'm with you emma and i'm with you so so i feel like i feel like because i'm the last one that's the last that's been set in our minds that that that's all we heard yeah la la la la la la that's what we'll remember yeah didn't hear the first part no sorry what was that what even happened well good for them good for them yes It's good for them. They're two single people allowed to spend time with each other. Yeah.

To enjoy each other's company with no strings attached. Nobody waiting at home for them. Yeah. Yeah. Nobody sat at home crying into their dinner. Oh, do you know what? I'm always supportive of it. It's only me, isn't it?

I just find, I just couldn't imagine. I think it just depends on the person. It depends on the person. I think even Chris would laugh in my face if I said, oh, going out to meet, Dwayne. I just think, my. Mine's different. It's like a... Listen, I love my first friend. It's like a school friend. It's like a school friend, you know? I think you've had sex with. Yes.

He's penetrated each other. Each other. I can't. I just don't know what it is. I don't. Like, just to sit across a room for something that'll see me naked. 20 years ago. That makes us sound really old. That does make it sound really old. Yeah. Sorry to break it to you. But no, I appreciate you. I do love these stories, though. I do too. I love the diversity in the camp, though. Yeah, me too.

It's good to have a different perspective on it. Yes. But let's just say Chris will never see his ex. In the 10 years that we've been together, he's never seen her. Sometimes there's just no need to, but I just feel like sometimes it's nice. Yeah. If either one of the party was lonely, it would obviously again make more sense. Like if you were supporting George in a really, like if he was broken up with his wife.

That would be even weirder because I'd be like there's potential. Do you know what I mean? Whereas now it's like. You know, you're just being really supportive of them. But he's not. They're both happily married, guys, chilling out together. Yeah. I mean, you might not see him now.

You live in Cardiff. No, I think that might be it. Right, George. I'll break it to you on the podcast. It's not going to be. Should be like the first year in 20, 26? I'd support it. Bumped into George, didn't I, in a pub in London.

Oh, here we go again. We might do like a 15 year, like, school reunion. Is it 15 years? No, what am I talking about? It's 20 years. It's 21. It's current. What, you were going to just go to the 13.

year reunion. Because we're basically past the next decade. 25. We'll do like a silver jubilee. Silver jubilee. I don't think I ever want a school reunion. There was one, but I wasn't invited. They had a 20 year one, but I found out about it through George. He was like, do you know about the school reunion? I was like, oh, well, that's how much of a great friend George is. He didn't even invite you. Didn't even give you a heads up? No. I wouldn't have gone anyway. But you'll happily sit with George and have a nice dream of him. Yes. My only friend from school, because he's... Guys, please. Okay, let's move on from it

We never need to meet each other again It's like home alone I don't want to ever see you jokes again Yeah exactly, that's how I feel They probably don't want to see me again either Anywho, thank you Jessica We appreciate you And thank you for again

Choosing my side Thank you for your messages If you have any comments, thoughts or funny stories Why not get in touch? You can email us hello at secretmumpod.com Or with Secret Mumpod on TikTok and Instagram Next is time for one of

Your secrets. Welcome back. We love a secret on the secret mumper. And you're all so good. What? Mum pub. Hey! Cheon-choo, motherfuggles! We're off to the pub. The festive season has begun.

I mean, it could be the secret mum pub. Just an 11am beer, why not? It's nice water. I'll just have oil. We love a secret on the secret mum club. And you're also good at sharing. So Emma, what have you got today, please? Okay, this comes from Anonymous.

Hi, Sophanemma, I have a confession. My partner has been desperately waiting for the baby's first word, convinced it would be dada. The baby finally said his first legible word, so I told my partner it was dada because I knew it would make him emotional. He cried. Oh!

Actual tears, hugged the baby and told everyone. The first real word? The real first word? word was mama snack so it wasn't even mama I think he would have been okay with snack do you think but was he not waiting for her to

wait for the baby to say dadda come on you can say it again now I'm here snack snack yeah I don't think I'll ever tell him the truth love a sneaky mum I think you've done the right thing sneaky snacking mum yeah maybe you're having snacks and the baby's like

gives a snack yeah or maybe he's like you're a snack oh maybe Maybe you're a hot mama snack Yeah Oh my gosh That's funny I don't think snack is many baby's first word

Like that comes around Well, Sadie's saying that now Is Renley? Snack Snack? Yeah. Cookies? Crackers?

Everything's a cracker Rennie says Mokaka Rennie says Kispies Oh Kispies And you know what? At the moment it's got He's really really poorly

So he's got really snotty nose And every time I wipe his nose He says show me So I show him and he goes yeah okay yeah and then he goes boogies show me he says sure me uh yack and every time i go oh god i think i got a bogey you just go boogies we're at a really fun age and nothing really makes any sense like he doesn't really string a whole sentence together well i think he'll be like boogie yak i think it all makes sense in our heads because we're really used to hearing them

But then when I'm with other people and I translate, they go, what? How did you make that out of that? And I'm like, I speak Sadie. And he says sometimes goes, cookie yuck. Cookie yuck. I gave him a peppermint cookie from M&S the other day. He was that cookie. Oh, you didn't like the Christmas ones.

Oh, they're delicious. Strong for his. And he kept going with this. You know, like when you eat a polo in the cold. Too minty. In the back of the car, I said, Chris, oh my gosh, is he going to be okay? Do you want to get him a drink? And he was going, yuck.

It's where burn his throat. It's probably like having like Sambuca for a baby. It's like a lot. Yeah, it's a really strong flavor. You really made a commitment to the cookie. The cookie. Cookie, cookie, caca. Oh, gosh, I love that.

Oh, and he cried. Oh. God bless us her. I don't think you can ever. No, don't take it. Don't take it away from him. It's a secret here. It'll stay here.

It'll never go anywhere. It's what we're for. It's what we're here for. Unless he listens, in which case you're in trouble. She hasn't given her name. No. No. And he doesn't know about the snack.

So he won't go, gosh, can you imagine. I would hate that if that was done to me. What a mean mummy? But that would never have happened to me. You'd never do that to me, would you, darling? No. No. Colby's first word was Mama.

Dotty's first word was Dada, Rennley's. Mama. Both boys are Mama. So you're winning two out of three, what? Two out of three. And we were talking about this the other day actually as to, I don't really believe in the mummy's boy, daddy's boy, daddy's girl. Yeah. But I do believe there is some sign.

around it because all, like my sister, I would say I was a mummy's girl, but my sister, being the first born, is definitely daddy's girl. And then I would say that her girls, two of them, no, no one of them, probably Eden would gravitate towards James. Again, she's the first born. So I feel like there is some science in that, because both boys, I thought Colby was a mummy's boy. And I still would say, if you asked him, which I never would, he would say, he would say, say you're his favorite no i don't think it's his favorite i think it's who they are more confiding in yeah colby would much rather tell me something yeah and say can you tell dad because i don't want to tell him whereas dotty's the other way around she'll say daddy this has happened this has happened you tell mom because i'm not going to tell her but renly is Chris doesn't even get a look in really he will happily climb back in my vagina if he could some days you just like rams his head like he's got this thing with like ducking under my legs.

Yes, so he does that as well. Right on my fanny bone. Yeah. Oh, God. She likes to bash it right in the crotch. Yeah. Well, I can't remember what Jojo's was. They were.

I feel like Dadda, because I feel like Stefan was bragging about it. But I was like, it's just an easier sound for them to me. To make a ma sound is quite hard. Mum. Mama. They just be like, da, da, da, da, da. And he's like, they're saying Dadda. And I'm like, they're just making noises.

Yeah. Dad, da, da, da. But I think there is something in moms and their sons. Definitely. I think there's something. There is some science there. There is not saying that my relationship is any different with Dotty is still as beautiful. But I feel like if she has done something naughty, she will go to Dad first. Yeah.

I've spilled nail polish. Maybe it changes it on the age as well because I feel like the babies are more likely to be for us now. Like Sadie, especially when she was breastfed, obviously, she'd be like, that's where the goods are. So she would like never go to Stefan. But I love it now because Stefan's been at home looking after them a bit more. And when they cry out in the night, they ask for him. They go, Daddy. And I go, oh, no, they want you.

My time has come. Off you pop. Oh, what a shame. Yeah. Enjoy that. Yeah. Oh, gosh, didn't even notice you'd left the bed. Oh, I'm so sorry about that.

I say to Chris, because he's got the charger on his side. I say, oh, no, monitor's flat. Even though we have a monitor when the baby's in the next room. I don't have a monitor. Yeah, I do. I do have a monitor. Because it wakes me up. But when Stefan's in charge, he has to have the monitor because they don't wake him with their normal cries.

I charge it on Chris's side. I always wake up anyway But I make it I feel like we're in tune Which is annoying Because when Stefan goes I'll do tonight I'm like I'm fucking awake up anyway

I'm gonna wake up regardless I feel like first words I would love a first word To be like a really funny Like snack Yeah Like that is iconic Yeah or just something really complicated

Like yeah I swear words Super Catteradden Fletcher It's a hellodoocious Can you imagine Yeah I would really like Please I would love to hear

What Baby's first words Yeah that'll be a good one If you have a non-mama and dadda Yeah if it's different Yeah Like a shit. Yeah. Oh, that would be great, wouldn't it?

Imagine putting that in the baby book of memories. Yeah. Fuck. Also, I want to know whether a snack baby is like a real foodie now. Like, does that baby love his food? Yes. Is that why he was like snack? Yeah.

Or if the daddy does call mommy a snack. Yeah. Snack. You're a snack. Use a snack. No, I do love the first word. I won't lie. Although I am loving all the words that he's learning.

This is my favorite age. Daddy isn't daddy. Daddy is Gaga. So he goes in Gaga. Yeah. So we're like, oh, gaga. But we are in like the greeting stage. So when I like get the phone, he'll just grab my phone.

He's like, hey, auntie. And I'm like, FaceTime. Yes, it's not auntie. Yeah. It'll be somebody else. Or we'd do it to Maddie and they'll go, it'll grab the phone and be like, hey auntie. Oh. Not everyone's auntie.

And he just does this really like, you're not my auntie, but fuck, it's really great to see you. Yeah. Oh, you know. And like when you open the front door now, he goes, oh, hey mama. And he does like a little head shake And I think, God, that boy is all me I can't believe you're here I'd say to my sister

Oh, sisie, what you're doing here And now he goes, oh, hey mama I'm like, oh my God We're at the everyone's daddy face Yes In the buggy It's when they call daddy Yeah and you're like

I'm like I don't know that man And they go Oh, the baby was talking to his dad No, I don't know that man And you're like oh god Okay Like old men in the street I'm like sorry about

Oh is that their dad No no just We're calling everyone dad I love it I love it What was your baby's first word Then please honestly do let us know Email us hello at secret mumpod.com

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