Secret Mum Club with Sophiena - The House Move

Episode Date: August 12, 2025

Soph is surrounded by boxes and emotions as the big moving day finally arrives, whilst Emma has been out partying hard. Plus, the correspondence corner is filled with mother-in-law stories, there’s a nose-blowing birth secret, and one little lad who loves shouting about his “doodle.” Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

ACAS powers the world's best podcasts. Here's the show that we recommend. When a disgraced podcaster follows a Maryland manchild through an IKEA wardrobe. The wardrobe is a portal? Oh man, I told you not to follow me. She stumbles into a once pristine magical kingdom now drowning in fast food and vape clouds. They are eating into my margins. Where'd you pick up that fancy business talk? He's been years.

living in a hollowed-out stump? If these two unlikely heroes are ever going to change anything, they'll have to start with their miserable selves. Stanland, featuring Bobby Moynihan, Reyes Seahorn, John Hamm, John Waters,

and more. Subscribe now. A-Cast helps creators launch, grow, and monetize their podcast. Everywhere. acast.com. Hello, this is the Secret Mum Club. I'm Safina. And I'm Emma. And this podcast is a safe space for mums everywhere. A safe space to share our secrets. Because we all have secrets, don't we?

We do. And as we know, sharing is caring. You don't even have to tell us who you are. You can keep that to yourself. You can be anonymous. And those secrets can be serious or silly. All secrets are welcome in the Secret Mum Club. Right, how's your week been? Talk to me. What's happening in your life? I've been out, haven't I? Yeah, you have. Galavanting. Off gallivanting.

Off gallivanting around. Oh, I left Stefan on his own with the kids for like, I mean, not, I don't feel sorry for him because I do it all the time, but he wasn't very well. Oh. Yeah. That is, what was wrong with her? He did like three, well, he did like two nights because this wedding was in Hereford. It was quite far away.

Oh, crumbed. I had to drive for like four hours. You went on your own there, didn't you? Went on my own. Everyone's finding that quite strange, but Stefan wasn't invited. Yeah, do you think that's weird as well? Slightly. Yeah, but he's not friends with the couple, only I am.

I know we're married, but like, to be honest, it's not like you've been married for, it's not like you've been together a month. No, I know. It's kind of, but with that particular group, like we're all girlfriends from uni, so everyone's partner went. Okay, would that maybe start with that? It's the thing.

Leave with that. Leave with that. Yeah. At everyone's weddings in that group, all the group of girls has just been invited, not the partners. Okay. Because we're not really, like, we don't know, we don't hang out as couples.

Still a little bit odd, I don't know. This is the one who I went on the hender and you were like, did you even know them? Right. The wild henna's. In South of France. Smashing. Yeah, yeah.

The ones that were snogging strangers. Oh, the girls were wild. Them girls lived that night. Bitches be cray. Did they, would they create at the wedding? The wedding was just as crazy. Yeah, I can't keep up. It was a stunning wedding, I have to say, beautiful,

herifiture countryside, stayed in this, like, stately home. It was beautiful. Most sensational bride I've ever seen. Like she just, oh, she had an outfit change at night and she got changed into like this cute little white dress with white cowboy boots with a high pony, like just too, it should be illegal. She was a goddess.

It should be illegal to be that hot. But God, yeah, people were hitting it hard. There was so much free booze. I was sick. What? What a practical chunder? Emma Jones. Not even tactical.

It was in the middle of the night. I feel like I was quite actually quite sensible because I stopped drinking like earlier on And I went to bed sober, actually. Right. But I just think at a wedding, there's so much, like, there was so much food and mixing of drinks and just like, bleh. And I'm not used to it.

No. And I woke up at 3 o'clock in the morning, chucked my guts up. Vommed. Yeah. Wow. It was bleak. What? The sick was bleak?

Just all of it. Oh. All of it. I was also meant to be in a room with people that I don't know. But they didn't turn up. So I don't know what happened to them. I hope they're okay. If you're out there, get in touch, let me know.

But yeah They went on the hendie They were girls I don't know I think they were friends of the groom Okay I think the fact

I think the reason why one of them didn't come back is because she was boning Boaning Oh she boned Yeah I walked past her on the way out

And I said I think I'm supposed I'm supposed to be sharing her with you She said I might not come back Because I might be Shagging this guy

I was like cool Good for you Phenomenal But when I woke up to be sick At the morning This sounds like my crowd of people Honestly They're wild

Should we get the bride in You should join the army Because they Are they from... The army people are crazy. Wow. They party hard. I think they're like work hard, play hard.

They're very community based, aren't there? I find the army. Lovely community. Lovely community. Wonderful friends. Yeah. But crazy. They all stick together.

But crazy. Wow. So when I work up to vomit at 3 o'clock in the morning, I think, thank God I've got room to myself because this is... Thank God no one's boning in here. Yeah. Yeah. Thank God.

Can you imagine if someone... Also, what have they boned in the bed next to you? Have you ever experienced that? No, have you? Yeah. Oh, God. Yeah. Actually, you know, I have.

tell a night. Yeah, see? I feel like someone has been in that situation where they've been in the bed boning next. You're taking me back to the worst night sleep I ever had of my life when there was a house party and I stepped over in my friend's room and he was having sex in the proper bed

and me and Stefan slept on the floor on a cactus. Stefan was there too. Stefan was there too. Wow. We were like, oh, please make it stop. Cactus just kept falling on top of us all night. What, real cactus? Yeah, it's most uncomfortable night's sleep than I had.

I would, I think I would have left the room. Yeah. Because there was no way to go. Wasn't there? I don't think I slept in the tub. You're like, the things I did when I was 22. I know.

I'd never do that now. Isn't it funny? Like, I do think about things in like the respective life. My niece is like 16 and not that they're at that point of their life. But there is going to be a time when they are. And you just think, you know, when they get to experience those things? I just think, I don't know whether I'm terrified. I'm just really excited.

They're going to have like the wildest nights. I'm terrified because I don't know if you remember, but like I remember asking my mum and dad to do things when I was like 14. I was like, it's so unreasonable that you won't let me go to a house party and get really drunk and sleep over with those of boys. And they were like, yeah, no, because you're 14. At the time, I was like, this is so unfair. You're so grown.

At 14, though, I was grown. I thought I was a grown-ass woman. I know. But imagine Colby or Dotty. I was going to have a 14. No, they're never going out. Never. No, never.

It's why I'm building a cabin at the new house at the bottom of the garden. Yeah. Hopefully they'll all congregate to me. Yeah. And I'll just be the parents sat watching and texting all the other months, right? Jacob's moved into the bar. It's just weird, but. it's when it's your own kids. Something else really weird happened to me on the wedding

weekend. I had such a trippy time. Because there wasn't any other things that were weird in this whole. Yeah, sorry, if everything else wasn't weird enough, driving down there on my own, I stopped at Reading Service Station for a wee-wee. You were right near us. Yeah. So I was walking out from my wee-wee, just looking at my phone, catching up on my messages and someone went, Emma Jones out of their car window. Stop. This is not a brag because I never get spotted. Did they say, show us your tits? I was so, no, there's nothing to show. I was so, like, confused. And I thought, I must be someone that's heading down to the wedding as well, because, like, this is, they're probably on this route as well. Yeah.

So I, like, try to look around to be like, do I recognise you? And I, like, really gave them, like, the stare. Yeah, like the death stare. Yeah, like the evil eyes. I was like, and because I'm blind as well, I was like, ah? Looking into the distance. Was it Stefan? She goes, I'm a big fan and just drove off.

Thank you. I was like, oh, thanks. Waved. And she went, I thought, she must have thought, what dick. What? I looked at her, like, how the. I thought she sounds like How fucking dare you?

She sounds so cool online But in real life What a bitch Stuck up I looked at her like How dare you call my name In the car park You know what I mean

But if you're listening I appreciate you There was one lady in the MNS car park A few months ago That literally went He's so much cuter in real life About Chris Renly

Yeah Chris Wish About Renly And I was like Oh thank you That's a backhand compliment Oh gosh I follow you I'm really sorry

I'm speaking out loud He's so much cute in real life Because I think She was like Oh he's so cute on the phone in real life he's even more cuter. Like that, she was so adorable. Because he's so much cute in real life, sounds like on the phone, he looks really ugly.

Oh, she was so sweet. And then she was like, oh my God, I follow you. Then also had my first experience of a photo in a toilet the other day. Claudia, shout out to Claudia, if you're listening. Was it consensual? Yeah, yeah. I gave like consent. Yeah.

Oh, she was so divine. She just stopped me in the toilet. It's never happened before. What did? She was just very, very sweet. And she said, oh, I follow you and I listen to the podcast. She was adorable. But it is funny.

I don't think I'll ever, like I feel like it's a real pinch me. But you've been spotted. Like you get spotted a few times, don't you in Southampton? It's wonderful. Yes. Because people do recognize you around there. But it's literally never happened to me before. And I did know what to do.

I was like, okay, thank you. It's very lovely though. Do you not feel like a bit of a pinch me like now? I appreciate it afterwards. But in the moment, I just was so confused. I didn't know how to react. How to process it. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. So that was my fun week. Wow. Yeah. How was yours? And then you had to go back and tell Stefan. Then I had to go back and tell Stefan

And then I was like Oh sorry you've been really ill Looking after the kids for two nights But also the next night I had a 40th birthday party So I was like I am going to have to go out and do that And then also two nights later I was like I am going to have to go to Wembley

Because I had oasis tickets Oh fuck My oasis tickets Actually fell through which was devastating Oh god But I was quite relieved I didn't have to go in the end Because I think Stefan is like a broken man

He's on his knees How is he now? Is he recovering? Yeah What was actually wrong with him? Yeah A bit of bad belly Did he?

Sickness and diarrhoea Yeah And that's hard when you're looking after kids, isn't it? Nothing worse when you're shitting yourself and the children need you and you're like, oh gosh, I can't get off the toilet. Yeah. You know? So yeah. So that's my week. Mine literally was not exciting at all. I've been packing

like a bitch. Oh yeah. How's that going? It's not going. No. I'm so over it. I thought everything was in boxes already. I didn't realize we had so much shit. I know. I thought I was pretty much done. No. I'm not done. It's not until you move that you realize how much shit you've got, yeah. We feel two skips. Did you? Yeah. You just binning it, chucking it. Do you bin it, chuck it, fuck it. Yeah. Check it, chuck it. How much

Are you taking with you? The children. Everything else. Chuck the beds, chuck the sofa, start again. We've actually done really well. We've sold a lot. Have you? Sold a lot.

Sold the beds, sold mattresses and things. Why? Because in the new house, the babies are, we're not taking the bunk beds. No. In Dottie and Reni, so we sold those. We've taken those down. And the person we sold them to was so sweet because we sold them with the mattresses, but they didn't need the mattresses.

So we've sold the mattress to somebody else for their. to come and collect them after we've moved because obviously we need to wait till we've moved into the new house to open the new mattresses. And we've got no sofa. That's been cleaned and put in the cabin for that to be collected when we've gone. You're selling that?

Yeah, selling the sofa. You're going to need those of furniture to fill your new house? No, we're not. We're saying I'm not moving that. I'm not moving it there for it then to be disposed of. And equally as well, again, this isn't me bragging, but I equally don't want to take pictures in the new house

of the furniture for somebody to come to the new house. and collect it. So I've kind of got... But why don't you just take it with you and keep it? Why would you change it? Because the sofa isn't going to... I won't fit the right dimensions. Yeah, because we've got a bigger lounge.

Right. We're going for a bigger sofa and I just don't want to transfer it over. So I thought I've got it all professionally cleaned and put it out into the cabin so that it's all fresh ready for the next person. Yeah. Nice. So that has been a kind of one of those. We've got in the cleaners ready.

We've booked the cleaners. I've ordered new furniture to go to the new house for after we move in. So it's a little bit... All systems go. It is all systems go. Are you excited or are you sad? I'm a whole mix of emotions. I'm really excited.

I'm really sad. I'm really nervous. I'm really, really scared. Like, I can't get rid of this pit of nerve scared. And when I say scared, I'm scared of like the whole new dynamic of the new house. One, settling everybody in the new house. Also, how everyone's going to settle in. I'm really nervous for how the children are going to settle in.

Also, because I don't know neighbours or surroundings or anything like that. I don't know how like the dynamics in the road work and getting used to other neighbours and then getting used to us. You don't want to piss no one off, you know? So that's a little bit nerve-wracking. I'm obviously super emotional that I'm leaving the house because I just wasn't ever prepared to leave this house. So the fact that we've had a whole year to process it, I haven't.

I haven't processed it in the fucking slightest. I'm not ready. You'll never be ready, though. But I did say she's off here this morning when I got here. Like I feel so excited that everything has happened in the new house. Like all the babies were taken home there. All the babies took their first steps in there. It was all their first home.

So I feel like collectively doing it together now, the next adventure, we're all doing together. Yeah. You know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm really excited about that. I'm excited. They've all got their own rooms and they're all going to have them. That'll be nice.

It's going to be so lovely for them. That's how I'm selling the move to Joseph. I'm like, because I'm worried, obviously because we're moving as well. worried about how he's going to be because he's a bit of a creature of habit but I'm like all three of mine are creature have a habit you're going to have enough room in your new big bedroom for all your toys and he's like yeah yeah that's what he's excited about yeah because otherwise he's going to be like I'm just really excited for the new obviously I've talked I haven't spoken about it much on my social media not because not because I haven't wanted to or I'm not

excited to I just don't it's it's I feel like like you and me talking about it is easy to talk to talk to about it but to put it on the internet and speak about it i don't really know like it's like a conversation piece isn't it like i don't know how to approach it on my social media so to be able to talk about it there i haven't really felt it the an appropriate space is that the right thing to say and also with a house move like everything's so volatile and up in the air like you don't want to like jinx anything or say it too soon because things can happen at the last minute like people can pull out or like there's so many people like i did a live randomly the other day while i was packing i thought just have a catch up with people and I'll do a live and there was lots of lovely questions

but I feel like because there's no questions to be asked like when I'm sat talking to my phone you know like I would normally make my content it's really hard to be like oh this is what we done and this is why we've done it and I don't want it to ever come across that way but the like I had so many lovely questions on the live the other day as to like why we're moving and like what was the priority of like the house move and I'm so excited for the fact of having a separate living space like we've got we've got a lounge and we've got a kitchen diner and we're going to have a dining room table like that to me i cannot tell you how much that's blowing my pants you don't have one at the moment we have like a breakfast bar we've got the breakfast bar and obviously as it works

wonderfully now but as the children are getting bigger yeah it isn't going to work for forever so i'm really excited about having a dining room table and that's space for us to to to like to communicate and spend our time but like so many people are like oh what did you look for in the new house and I didn't look for like sizes of bedrooms. I wasn't really bothered about the size of their bedroom because for us it's a space for us to be together as a family. So like the dining room space was huge. The garden space, we wanted a great garden space again

that can grow with the children. So those are all the things I'm looking forward to. I'm really looking forward to like having, also having a separate lounge because at the moment with the bungalow when we put like a late wash on, we can't watch the telly because where it's over. plan it's really hard to watch the telly with the washing machine in tumble dry going so we instinctively go into the bedroom to sit and watch a film yeah so i'm super excited the fact that all the children

will be up in the bedrooms and we'll be able to sit in the lounge and watch a film and i'm excited about like the coziness of like the christmas trick like i'm really really so there's all the things i'm super super excited about it's just there's obviously the concern of like how dotty is going to everyone's going to be yeah because colby is like beyond beyond excited like yeah there's nothing like there's no and i wouldn't even say like dotty's in a negative headspace about it it's more that she is like me a big warrior so she's worried about all the things that i'm worried about and because i'm trying not to talk to her about the things i'm worried about i'm just trying to you know be excited about everything and we're looking at buying pot plants that we can paint in the garden and doing lots of

little bits that makes the whole new house our house yeah so yeah i just i can't believe it's finally here it's finally a long time it's been a really long time it's been a really long time it's been a really long time coming yeah but when you listen to this episode we will officially be in our new home yeah which i don't i've not again not spoken about on my socials it's exclusive guys that isn't exclusive it's not something i'm putting out again i'm not really i'm not really talking much about the move on my socials just because I don't know I don't really feel there's a need to talk about is that weird no I mean I think again I'm such a creature of like there's so there's some things that I just keep really really private is that for like security

reasons or because you don't want to jinx anything I think again maybe security because you know no one is you're not putting your house all over the internet and I think just because that my job, I kind of don't want to put my house all over the internet. Plus, it's privacy for the children. For me, it's their home. It's their space. It's somewhere that it's really private to them. And I just don't know that obviously I started on my social media not sharing my house. And over the years, I have done. But I think this time round, I don't know that I will be sharing as much. Yeah. Even of the inside. Yeah. Obviously, you'll see the kitchen and the garden and the dining space

but the baby's bedrooms I definitely won't be showing them this time round only because that's their space and I just don't know yeah I don't know why I'm just I don't know whether I'm worried about jinx and it I don't know what's holding me back I just haven't felt that I've wanted to talk about it

and again I think a private life is a happy life yeah it's hard though when you've got a job like yours to know where to draw the line on what you share isn't it because you see other people sharing so much And you think like, oh, should I, should I do that as well? Yeah. Like, obviously, I don't show the kids' faces, but, like, loads of people do. Yeah.

And I think people like to see, like, a few people have messaged me and been like, oh, we're seeing, like, the kids' faces. Yeah. And then I'm like, and then I'm like, oh, should I? And then I think, nah, I don't think I want to. But it's hard. It's hard. It is hard.

And do you know what? And this is something we spoke about the other day because I was really lucky the other day that I went to Latitude. I haven't really spoken about that. But I was really, luckily, I was really kindly, sorry, invited by comfort. Yeah. Which I've done a few of their events now And I was invited to the Latitude Festival

You girls never done a festival How was that? Fucked my burks In the pouring rain Fucked my burk and stocks I wore cream Which again Wasn't the best

Because it was torrential downpour Yeah Like the most rain we've had in a day Most rain I think we've ever had Yeah In our whole lifetime My whole 37 years of life Just poured into

Oh my God I haven't even spoken about my birthday Have I? Oh no What the fuck Because we weren't here last week No I had a week off for the wedding

And I'm bloody out. Nothing happened. Don't you worry. Just all house chat. That's literally my birthday is the house. The house chat. So yeah, went to latitude and I was, I always find it because I don't ever meet other content creators. I've unfortunately had my fingers burnt by people in the same industry as me. So I kind of stay in my little canoe boat. Stay in your lane. Just row, row, row with me little oars. But I do have some of my faves and some of my faves were there. And I got to speak to them and we had a catch-up and I was like yeah you know I won't be doing this well not this obviously the podcast is going to be for the rest of our lives yeah but the I was like oh I won't do content for forever and they were like well what are you going to do and I was like

well I want to have a little shop maybe a little calf maybe branch out a little bit have myself a little nine to five and they were like what you're not going to do this forever and I was like no I don't think I'll do like the TikTok and social media side no I don't think I'll do it You're just going to go back to like a normal job. Obviously this. Yes. But your girl would love like a little, I want to have a little shop so the children, yeah, so the children inherit something.

So they've got something when they leave school to do when they leave a little Saturday job. I could see you in a cafe being chatty. Literally my worst nightmare, but you'd be great to it. I'd love it. I would relish it up. Oh my God. Imagine the regular's coming in and saying hi every morning. I'd love it so much. Plus I don't know how the dynamic is going to work when Colby goes to secondary school. I've got to think now. I've only got two years of him left in junior school. you, I'll be fucking damned if you think I'm putting that boy into secondary school

and he gets bullied for me doing social media. I know. You know? And it's been a good run. I just don't see myself doing it forever. You don't. No. Just don't get it in.

Girl, I just don't know. But it's hard. I do, like, the podcast has my whole heart. And if anybody asks, like, what's your job? I'm like, I'm a podcaster. I'm a podcaster. Yeah. As well as doing obviously social media.

But yeah, I just, I don't know. And I guess I think as the time goes on, Colby doesn't really get into my videos anymore. They're like, might be the odd occasion that he's in a video. Dotsie picks and chooses which ones she likes to do. Sometimes she likes to peek in the back. But now they're a bit older. They're not really, they're not really, no, they're not really interested.

You've got a few years of Renlea, yeah, before he can make his own decisions. Before he's just, fuck you. But it's hard. I do try to keep them as much out of it as possible. But it's hard when he's, he's in the content and he's like, hey. And people want to see everything. People want to see, like, all of your life. Which is really, really lovely.

But on the other end of the spectrum, you have to just be very, very mindful as to we just don't know who... Who's watching. Who that content's going out to me. But that was a lot, wasn't it? I feel like that was... That got real deep.

Did you have a nice birthday, you had a lovely dinner, didn't you? I made it out for lunch. Yeah, yeah, because I know the last time I was here I was talking about Joseph's stiff neck. Yes. How is that? Fine.

Oh, great. He got over it in like two days. He was absolutely back to normal. Smash him. But obviously for two days, we were like, what's wrong with him? What the hell he's going on? Mystery illness.

But yeah. He's fine, thank God. And you had a lovely dinner out, didn't you? And we did have a lovely lunch out. Yeah, we did. We went to Duck and Waffle. You went carb on carb on. Oh, so carb on fat on.

It was so calorific that dinner. I didn't even go out for dinner. Do you know what I did do? Oh, bloody hellie. Now I'm remembering. Went to Poulton's Park. Oh, yeah, for two days. I did two days.

The doubler? I did the double, double, nearly said double ender. Didn't do any of that. What the fuck? The old double did. But the second day. Is it good. Talk me 20.

Took Richie. We took Richard down to Potten's Park, took his wife down, and I think I broke them both. Oh, really? Yep, we fully broke them. My brother hasn't been since, well, saying that Amy hasn't been since they were children. So when they went, and bless her heart,

my brother's not one for heights or anything like that. I think there was one ride that he was just like, do you know what, I'm using my one card? Yeah. We gave them one card as you can skip one ride. But they are, it was really wonderful. And do you know what? You know when you sit and think,

I could have gone out for a meal with Chris, just the two of us. but we didn't we went Pultons Park and we lived Did you have a great time It felt like it was our 7th birthday Not our 1st 7th We had the best time The children loved it

Love spending time with my brother So no that was wonderful And then yeah Got some lovely little presents for the children Got a beautiful little bracelet Got a little mug Just the typical mum things you know So Emma and I really want to hear from you

Yeah we want you to join us in the Secret Mum Club You're all welcome You can share your secrets with us Respond to what we've been talking about Or just say hello You can find us on TikTok and Instagram just search SecretMumPod or email us hello at secretmumpod.com. stumbles into a once pristine magical kingdom now drowning in fast food and vape clouds.

They are eating into my margins. Where'd you pick up that fancy business talk? He spent years living in a hollowed out stump. If these two unlikely heroes are ever going to change anything, they'll have to start with their miserable selves. Stanland, featuring Bobby Moynihan, Reyes Seahorn, John Hamm, John Waters, and more. Subscribe now. grow and monetize their podcast everywhere.

ACS.com. It's time for the Correspondence Corner Nice, thank you. So Emma, let's hear what you've got to say. All right, this one says, Hi, Sophie and Emma. I loved your recent episode

where you talked about the fear of sons growing up and drifting away from their mums. It really resonated. with me. My friends, male and female and I have spoken about this a lot. Oh, she's not going to make me cry, is it? I don't know. I'm on the edge. I'm on the edge. Let's soon find out. Okay. In my experience, when that drift happens, it's not because the son doesn't love his family anymore, but often because the partner doesn't feel supported in maintaining that relationship. Usually, it depends on how comfortable the partner feels within the family dynamic.

Okay. When I've seen sons stay really close with their families, it's usually because the partner feels safe being honest with the mother-in-law. If the mum can acknowledge that her son isn't perfect flaws and all it builds so much trust when a partner doesn't feel like they have to protect him or tiptoe around the relationship with the mum becomes more genuine that connection helps keep the bond between mum and son alive just wanted to share that perspective it was such a great conversation and really made me think lots of love from vancouver canada wow Amanda that was a lot to process I feel like we need to break that down so we are talking about the drift between the mum and son and then are we saying the relationship between the partner whether that be male or

female are we saying the relationship between the partner and the so like me and colby's new partner yeah basically you got to let the new partner in you've got to accept that colby has flaws because i think what she's saying is it's when like the vibe that's not very welcome is it like you're not good enough for my son right my son's perfect do you know what i mean yep but when you're like yeah no he is like i felt like stephan's family a bit like that when i first started going out with him like if i would like because that's my our humor like i would like rib him and like take the piss and i feel like they were a bit protective like oh no uh stephan's actually perfect. Okay. But they've opened up a bit more now.

Got you. So we have a good relationship. But yeah, I think I think that's what she's talking about. I totally get it. Right. Okay. Yeah. So we're just basically saying that I'm appreciating that Colby isn't perfect. Yeah. And then that's great. Yeah. That's really great advice. It's just about the daughter-in-law feeling like safe with the mother-in-law. Love that. Which I think is what we were saying when we were chatting about it. Like just creating a loving, not hostile environment and being like,

you're not welcome here. Yes. And I think that's the problem, isn't it? is that I, you know, people, I've not been there so we don't know that situation right now, but when people are, you know, I've always said that maybe Chris's mom didn't think I was good enough for him. Do you think? Yeah. But I did, we have spoken about it a lot and obviously there's, Chris has his own, his own things that he's dealt with through his life, which is wonderful.

But I really tried, I really tried with his mum a lot. But I would say that my family love Chris more than me, so. Yeah. They're like, if anything, you're actually too good. If you're actually too good. You're actually too good, so we're going to hold on to you. Yeah. It's hard though, isn't it?

Because I think, like, naturally, you're protective and you want the best for your children. But ultimately, like, who they date, it's not your decision. No, it isn't. So you've got to let it go. And this is something we say to the children all the time. It doesn't matter who you love. We're never going to say that you can't love another man or you can't love another woman. You can't be in a same-sex relationship.

You have to be in this. You have to do that. Because at the end of the day, love is love. It doesn't matter what fucking form it comes. As long as you're happy and you're not hurting anybody, that's what we provide in our home. So I also, even now, as they're little, encourage them to be who they want to be, create a safe environment so they know that it doesn't matter any age. If they're like, mum, my friend can't come home? Can he come and stay at hours?

Absolutely. I want to be the house that's the safe house that they don't ever feel like, oh, sorry, my mum won't like it if you come to our house. Yeah. So, which my mum, unfortunately, was. So my mum was very, my mum was very harsh on our friends growing up. She was very particular on what friends we hung around with, which is fine, which I think to a certain degree we all have, but my mum was very particular. She wanted the best for, the best for all of us.

But I think sometimes that shut us off a little bit. So we were more like, oh no, I'm never asking my mum if you can stay at my house because she fucking hates you, you know? I was that, I kind of lived upon that, which is something that I don't really want to do with my children. I want it to be that it is, as long as they're not hanging around with me, people that are doing bad things. Well, that's the thing.

I think if your child comes home with an absolute wrongness. But again, I think we're putting a stable in now, aren't we, as parents. Like there is, you know, there's been situations where unfortunately there hasn't been the nicest of children that Colby has had encounters with at school that have maybe, I think it was the time that the boy pushed him, if you remember, I don't know what, that's a few episodes back now. But Colby had an unfortunate situation where he was pushed by another little boy, but then started hanging around with him.

But then the little boy was saying unkind things to him. And it was kind of, we had to have the conversation of, look, I don't think this is the best child to be hanging around with. You have got other friends. And unfortunately, Colby had fallen into a track where he felt like he had to be friends with him because being friends with him meant that he wasn't horrible to him. And it's hard. That's, you know, at eight, nine years old, that's a hard thing to have to go through. But putting these things in place now only leads them on to making the best decisions when they're bigger. Yeah.

You just got to hope that you're setting them up. Yeah, setting them up right, yes, and doing all that we can. But thank you so much, Amanda. And fucking hell, you're loving it in Vancouver. Yes, meant to be very beautiful. A lot of people were asking me if I was moving to Canada. Really? Yeah, when you said about the house move.

Yeah, when word got on the street that I was moving to Canada. It's because I'd done a video saying that only wrong answer could comment in the section. And people are like, Canada or America. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my God, you're moving to Canada. I fucking wish. Meant to have a fantastic airport, Vancouver.

Also, great healthcare. Really in Canada. It's the only place that has free healthcare, isn't it in Canada? Canada? Well, we do. Yeah, us, obviously, but the next one. Right. The next one that has free healthcare. I could be wrong.

Don't quote me on that. Amanda, let us know. Amanda, please, yeah, let us know. All right, I've got another one about mother-in-laws here. Okay, this says, hi, ladies. I'm a just-turned 50-year-old married mum of two. My son is 30 and my daughter is 25. I'm very close to them both.

My daughter has a partner of five years and they're about to move into their first home together. He fits into our family so perfectly. My son recently split up with his girlfriend of just over three, years and he's heartbroken, as are we all. The reason I'm writing in is because at first, I found it quite hard to communicate with her, especially as she had no contact with her own parents. I really cared for her from the beginning, but I didn't want to overstep. I've always tried to be mindful, especially because I had a strained relationship with my own mother-in-law.

She always took my husband's side even when he was in the wrong. So I tried to be fair, open and honest with my son's girlfriend. Earlier this year, my family surprised me with a holiday abroad for my 50th. All six of us went to Puerto Ventura for a week. Lovely. Stunning. And honestly, my heart has never felt so full. Seeing both my baby's happy, it was everything. When they split, she asked my son to thank me specifically for making her feel so welcome and for being a safe space, one she never had growing up. Not going to lie, I cried. Oh, God, I'm about to cry. Fuck me. It meant so much that the effort I'd put in hadn't gone unnoticed. Thank you for your wonderful pod.

I think you're both amazing mummers. Love Susan from Bolton. Susan, that is so fucking sad. That's so lovely, isn't it? Lovely, but sad how it's ended up. Sad. What a shame. Oh, but how wonderful for Susan though, like just to know that she done, she, you couldn't have been any more right in that situation. How wonderful. And I bet your son loved that. I bet you. Yeah. Do you know what? I was going to say, I really hope your son appreciate it. And what a lovely, what a lovely home. Like, created such a wonderful space for the children to just be themselves. And I hope you're okay with your daughter moving out. I feel

Oh, I know. I think of my crying. I know. Well, like we were saying, like, you can't control who they date and who they come home with. No, you can't. You equally, you can't control when they break up. So even if you're like, we really love this one, but their relationship doesn't work out. It's like a heartbreak for you as well.

I've had one of them. Have you? My mom hasn't let go of him. Oh, she still loves an ex of yours. That sounds strange. Like, he's hidden the cupboard. Are they still together? She actually generally really loves him, like, wishes him, like, wish him happy birthday, messages him, speaks to him.

And I'm like, guys, we got to let. Like, my dad does turn him. my brother, my sister. I think they've all still got him on Facebook. I was like, guys, can we just fucking let him go? Can we cut him off? God. It's hard when they...

I still speak to him though. Do you? Oh, that... No, let back the fuck up. I don't have him on Facebook nor do I have his mobile number. But if I see him on the fucking street, Emma Jones, I'll be like, all right, mate. You don't text him and go for lunch.

No, I fucking don't, you nutter and never would. You crazy baboon. Although my mum's probably fucking hanging out with him. Yeah, probably. Yeah, she's probably a... She was probably just at his recent wedding. God bless her. Oh, he's married now. He has, yeah. He was married before, but he's, God, this there and is all his personal information. God, no one's searched him. We haven't identified him. No, we haven't identified him. He's

recently remarried. We're happy for him. Habs. So happy for him. But I never, again, his mom was wonderful to me, like, so wonderful. And it is a lot when you get on with the family. It's a real lot to let go. And we didn't split up for any other reason other than we just, we had a relationship really, really young. And we were just very two different people. We wanted two different things from our, from our lives. And we grew apart, but he's wonderful, wonderful, man. So wonderful and so perfect for my first boyfriend. Yes. Oh, that's nice. So perfect for my foot, but just didn't. It just didn't work out. No. So every time I found a new boyfriend. It was compared to that. Always, always to him.

Always compared. I think Chrissy was the only one not compared to him. And they were all right with Chris now? Happy with that choice. Yeah, yeah. I love him. I think he's bloody wonderful. Again, better than me. But if anything happened with me and Stefan now, I'd be I think my mum would go like, oh. And obviously they'd be like gutted to lose me, you know, devastated. I think now they'd be like, oh, you've broken up. Really going to be sad to see you go, Safina. They'd keep Chrissy.

Yeah. They wouldn't keep me. No. They'd be like, get out. Get out, you crazy woman. But yeah. They were loving messages. So lovely.

Thank you, Susan. Susan, I hope everything goes well. Keep us updated on. I also say keep us updating on his relationship. You obviously don't have to do that. But, you know, stay like the next one. We'd like you to stay tuned. Keep us updated on life, as always.

We love it when we love messages in and we definitely love a repeat, don't we? Yeah, we do. Thank you ladies so much. So you can get in touch with us on anything at all. Yeah, it can be serious or silly and you can be totally anonymous. Because between us, we've probably heard it all before.

And remember, we're all in this together and we know that we are. We're all stars and we see that. Right, here's my secret of the week. We're going to have to buckle up for this one and everyone needs to keep an open mind about this because it's something that's happened on my social media recently and I feel like this is a safe place

where we can talk about it with no fucking judgment, okay? Because a lot of people have ripped my bumhole out this week on social media. Fair one, you know, I'm so open to hearing everybody's opinion. So we have had a little bit of an incident on my social media. Okay. When I say incident, wasn't an incident, nothing happened. But I was doing a video where I was cooking in the video and it's quite clear in the video that you can see that Renli

opens the utensil draw behind me in the video and then I in the next clip take a knife out of the drawer. It sent the whole comment section absolutely wild in the point of where people have messaged me like I used

to really like you until you let your son playing a knife draw. Okay. Can we just I need everyone to just take a breather I need to take a deep breath in through the mouth out through the nose whatever way you want to do it whatever suits you But shock horror, there's knives in the drawer.

Did I let Renley open the drawer? Yes, it is my home and things in the home I've been put in place to ensure that my children are safe. And every day of my life, I do everything to support and make sure that the children are safe. But I also do something as a mum, and that's teach the children right from wrong. Harmful to safe, good to bad.

We're teaching them. Yes, he is one years old. Yes, he was in a drawer where there's knives. But there is also a dad stood in the doorway. So what I can't. So Chris wasn't in the shop. So what I, no, Chris wasn't in the shot. So where Chris is at home, and I think a lot of people have lost their way with watching my content.

Chris is the new age dad. He is a stay at home dad. Chris doesn't go out to work. I say he doesn't go out to work. There is the odd occasion. But I never really talk about it. Chris has an odd occasion where his friend needs some help. Chris goes out and he does work here, there and everywhere, does a bit of something,

something sometimes he does a week of it sometimes he doesn't do anything for a few months but chris is a stay-at-home dad chris doesn't talk in the back of the content but chris is always there whether he's in the garden with rennley or he stood next to me in the kitchen but chris doesn't want to be involved not that he doesn't want to he doesn't feel a need to talk in the videos or be involved unless i talk at chris bless his heart he'll kind of just keep the baby occupied or he's just linger in the back wait for his sandwich like bitch hurry up with this video because i need my sandwich So in the video, there was comments made about he had taken the knife out of the drawer and was running with the knife behind me, but I'd suddenly posted that video for all these

people to see. Then I'd edited the video and reposted it. That never happened. That's a lie. I don't know where people are getting that bullshit from. But also, the drawer has a magnetic sheet. There's a magnetic sheet in the bottom of the drawer that magnets all the knives to the bottom of the drawer.

Again, Chris is in the doorway, fully watching him. if he was to take a knife out at any point Chris would have one said something or two I would have said something about him being in the draw so it's mainly just to bring attention to the fact that one creating the video is my job that is my job that's what I'm doing two I'm safe I'm safe my child is safe did he go into the drawer with the knives in yes he did I'm not denying that people are like oh you shouldn't be um drawing attention you shouldn't be justifying your actions because you were wrong because apparently I was justifying him being in the kitchen and saying, justifying that his actions were okay. I wasn't saying that he wasn't

in the draw. He was, but he wasn't walking around with a machete. He wasn't walking around with a massive huge giant. So he opens the drawer. So he goes in the utensil drawer. You know the tweezers? The tongs? The tongs. He gets out a spatula that it's got all the bits have a metal bit on them. So when they hit the floor, they make a like a metal touch in the floor because they have a bit of metal in them. But where there's rubber on them, they don't magnet to the sheet. So all the bits are accessible for him on the top of the drawer. And he likes to get out the utensils. And I will add as well, call me crazy and you might think I'm full of shit. There's only a few utensils that Renli actually actually likes. So he likes the tongs because he can push them. And he

likes one that's a flat paddle one because when he hits it on the glass door, it makes a nice sound. So he only goes forever like five utensils from the job. But he never actually grabbed a knife? He never touched the knife. You're saying that it's like childproofed and you actually can't get them out. You can't get them out. That's so clever. Not even, not even Colby can get them out. And there's also like a little, again, you got, I feel like this is a secret because it's, you know, when you're, because I put myself online, I understand that people are going to have an opinion on me. They're also going to have an opinion on the way I parent, the way I do things, and I totally get that.

But what I don't understand is you can't have an opinion on something you can't see. You can't see inside the draw. So in the drawer, there's like a little lip at the back. So it's got a magnet sheet. It's got a lip at the back. And you basically put the knives in to the lip and then you magnet them to the bottom of the sheet. So you have to lift the knife up and pull it out. Right.

So generally the children, even Colby, Colby at a push, can do it. But it's really hard for him to get them out. But you know when you just think, can we all just let me? parent, like I'm being trolled and told that I need to die because my son is in the knife drawer. He's in the kitchen. I should be parenting better. I should be a, I'm a disgrace to women. I'm disgraced to mothers. I don't deserve my children. I'm all of these. Like, do you ever look at that and just go like, people are insane? It's wild to me. Like, I understand that if you don't want that to happen in your home or for your, that to be a case with your child,

that that is up to you. But there is things in that drawer that I have to protect my child. But don't slander me. Don't slander. It's not even me. It's other mums. Don't go at a woman's throat

because you've seen a three-minute video of how the parent-parents, you know? But I would just like to clear up. And my secret of the week is that, yes, he was in the drawer, but I do have things in the drawer to protect my child. But also his dad, which at one point in the video, you can actually see Rendley run from the draw to Chris,

because Chris called him. So he runs with literally as the spatula to Chris. But everyone made out like I'd just let him run around with a machete, just slicing up the curtains, all my legs at that matter, you know? Like he was literally running around the whole house. No, he wasn't. But I just needed to clear that up. It's been way and heavy on my mind.

And again, what I don't think people understand is that I read all of the comments. I read every single comment, especially when there's a video popping off and I thought God someone must be giving me great advice So I must love my sandwich My cottage cheese wrap They must be giving me some hints and tips

No die you stupid bitch Bad mum Failure hate you Used to love you Can't believe you let what Okay Okay Can we all just

Can we all just Chill Can we all just relax He gets into the drawer Yes But there's things in the drawer To keep my child And also what you see online

that just goes to show like you don't really know what's going on like you don't know the full picture so think before you comment and again these are things that you have to take into consideration when you do this job is that you have to be prepared for this shit yeah and I'm not doing anything wrong and I'm very confident and safe in the knowledge that I'm a fantastic mum yeah like I'm so confident in myself that I'm a fantastic mum I've also raised children for nearly nine years

no one's ever ran around the house with a knife yeah you know But there we go. That's my secret this week. If that come as a shock to anybody. Not that anybody's wrong for having their opinion. But don't keep it to yourself. Writ me our soul out for... I literally did nothing wrong. I did nothing wrong. So that is my secret. There it's out. And we'll get into some of yours after this short break. Looking for your perfect place to call home, Lethbridgeland is shaping the future of our city with incredible communities like crossings, riverstone, and watermark.

Each neighborhood is designed with innovation, passion, and responsibility to enrich your life today and strengthen Lethbridge for tomorrow. From vibrant urban hubs to serene, coolly views, there's a community waiting for you. Discover the lifestyle you've been dreaming of in a Lethbridgeland community. Visit lethbridgeland.cai and take the first step towards your new home today. Podcasts. Here's a show that we recommend. I'm Jesse Kirkshank, and on my podcast, Phone a Friend. I break down the biggest stories

in pop culture, but when I have questions, I get to phone a friend. I phone my old friend, Dan Levy. You will not die hosting the Hills after show. I get thirsty for the hot wiggle. I didn't even know a thirsty man until there was all these headlines. And I get schooled by a tween. Facebook is like a no. That's what my grandma's on. Thank God. phone a friend with Jesse Crookshank is not available on Facebook. It's out now wherever you get your podcast. ACAST helps creators launch, grow, and monetize their podcast everywhere. acast.com.

We've got three secrets we're going to be discussing this week. Hopefully no knives are involved. So let's get into Secret 1. All right. This says, hi, Emma and Safina. Long-time listener here, and I've just had my first baby boy, Farley George. Oh my gosh, that's a stunning name. He's eight weeks old now and an absolute dream.

I wanted to tell you about my birth. Please. I was 38 weeks and five days with absolutely no signs of labour, though I did have a stinking cold. At around 4pm, I stopped hoovering to blow my nose for the 100th time, and suddenly, the running stopped up top and started between my legs. Whoa. I blew my nose so hard. My water's broke.

Stop it now. What? I couldn't believe. it and it's a hard blower. Holy moat. Great blow on you. I couldn't believe it and it's a story I'll tell my son for the rest of his life. Everything moved really quickly after that and five hours later

I pushed him out in just 37 minutes with no pain relief. If I ever have another baby I'll be hoping for another cold. It definitely sped things up. Thank you for sharing everything you do. Lots of love, Eva from Suffolk. Eva, maybe that's sure going to be your sign. You know some people have signs. Yeah. I want to say it's mum's a very

like over three children. Like if you're going to have four or five. You know when you're going into labour? They know the signs. Yeah. Yeah. Wow, that's one big blow. That's a hefty blower.

And 38 weeks and five days. Like it wasn't even... Mate, you just wanted to meet you, Mama. Yeah, he was ready. He was probably thinking, stop with this hoovering. I'm over this hoovering. Oh, what a beautiful name, Farley. Farley George.

That is a stunning name. Listen, when they're ready, they'll come. They will. Eva, I hope it was wonderful for you. First baby as well. What a... First baby. So pay really for 37 minutes. That's really quick.

Wow. I hope your vagina's okay. I hope it is okay. Gosh. Crumbs. Wow. Congratulations. I hope you're both settling into new motherhood and life. Wonderfully. Let's have secret number two. All right. This says, hey girlies. I've got a bit of a dilemma. I'd love your take on. Oh gosh. In our trio, me, one of my best friends and another close mate, one of them has just had her first baby. We're over the moon for her and I can't wait to see her step into motherhood. Her baby's being a little poorly, nothing serious. But I'm not.

understandably, she's become quite withdrawn. Even during pregnancy, she kept to herself. And now she's mostly at home, not up for much, which we totally get. But we really miss her. We've tried giving her space while still letting her know we're here, and now we just want to support her, even if that's just popping over for a coffee or being someone she can vent to. Since neither of us are mum's yet, we don't fully understand what she's going through.

So what would you suggest? We really don't want to overstep. We want to help in a way that actually makes her feel supported. Thank you for creating such a lovely space to talk about this kind of stuff. Lots of love, Lanara. Beautiful nail. Crumbs. We've got stunning names to know.

I would, again, not give up. Yeah. I would keep up with messaging her, even if it's a phone call or offering a phone call or saying, you know, when babies settle, do you want to have a quick FaceTime? Arranging maybe a FaceTime. Arranging, do you know what I would say now is things that I look back and I would have loved. It's like a FaceTime with my girlfriends. Because you don't have to go out, you don't have to get dressed up, you can just arrange like a really fun,

or even if you put a movie on and you're on FaceTime together and you watch a movie, but it's just silence. And she's got you there on the phone while she's feeding baby. Or even if you're doing a phone call and baby's crying or anything like that, I, you know, don't say, oh, I'll call you back later, or I'll let you get off or just to be in there sometimes. Like my sister used to just sit on the phone if I was like struggling with Renley with Colby, because Colby was my poor.

baby yeah but I would say like if there's like flowers you can leave them on the doorstep with maybe a card sometimes sitting down and opening a card and reading a card but I think don't give up I think do carry on doing what you're doing it sounds like your hearts are both in the right place yeah and you're doing enough I would say you're doing enough and I think you can tell that you care yeah and again lots of questions about the baby obviously asking how she is but also asking about the baby. I felt sometimes that either people would ask how the baby is or ask how I am

or not really be generally interested on how Colby was doing. Yeah. Especially people that haven't got babies. Kids. Yeah. Like sometimes when you're talking about your kids to people that haven't got kids, you're thinking like, are they finding this really boring? Yeah. But she might just want to talk about, especially if it hasn't been well. Yeah.

She might want to talk about that to some people. And I think you're right. Like just send her something if you can or leaving something outside because she might not feel up to visitors or even if you ask like do you want me to drop some groceries round or do you want me to cook you a meal she might say no no don't don't worry like because she doesn't want to be a burden but if you just do it yes then at least like she can't say no but she knows you still want to do something for her you know yeah yeah no i couldn't i couldn't agree more with you think i think you're doing

incredible as is um but i would just yeah things like not so much maybe a text message or a call but like if you're leaving a bunch of flowers just write a little card so she's got it to read to and then she can either message you or message you when she has the time. I feel like her knowing that you're thinking of her. Yeah. She might just not have the capacity to like respond at the moment because it's been overwhelming, isn't it? It can be a little bit overwhelming. Or even if you knock the door and or if she's there and you can just say hello to her at the doorstep, something like that. You know, sometimes if I was to, I would avoid a call or avoid a text message if you were to drop some flowers over and you knock the door and to say, oh, I'm not, or if she's in her jammies

or anything quite I can do. You could text her first, because if people knock my door, I'll announce that shits me up. Oh, does it? Yeah. Oh, okay. But you live in a community. I don't. Like, if someone knocks my door, I'm like, what's wrong?

Oh, okay. I would be like, you know, if it was me, I'd knock my friends or just, I'd just chopped you off some flowers or is there anything like I can do. But do you think then she'll be like, oh, do I feel like I have to, like I have to, like, invite her in for tea. Yeah, maybe. I'm stressed. The house is a mess.

I haven't washed my hair. But they sound like a really good trio. They sound like they're close. Yeah, sound like they're really close. So I'm sure that would be fine. If she's in her jammies. But yeah, I think that you're doing wonderfully. Yeah.

I think you're doing incredible. And I think it's very lovely of you considering you don't have children yet yourself and your other friend. Your heart is in such a wonderful place that I just think you're smashing. She's going to, she'll be back. I'm sure better than ever when the time is right. But yeah, just to be there is wonderful. Okay. shall we have the last one?

Yes. Okay, dokey. This says, hello lovely ladies. Longtime listener, first time writing in. I've got a 16-month-old boy called Billy, similar age to Sadie and Renley. He's learning all his words and body parts, and he's just discovered where his doodle is. Doodle is Willie, isn't it? Doodle.

Now, every nappy change, he points down and yells, doodle! Oh, gosh. At full volume. Even when he's done a poop. And yes, he grabs it covered in. Shit. It's the worst thing in the world. No, why did they start doing that?

Don't know. Dutty pigs. He's in daycare and the other day when I picked him up, they told me he's been running around shouting Doodle and pointing at his nappy. The poor educators can't really stop him. He's a little bit too wild to be told not to say him. His first proper words are now mama, dada and doodle.

Perfect. His three and a half-year-old sister Frankie, who is also obsessed with saying poo-poo and wee-wee thinks it's the funniest thing she's ever heard. Yeah, we've also got a three-year-old that's in the poo-poo and wee-wee face. Thank you for the amazing podcast. I look forward to each episode and love all of Sof's Insta and TikToks.

You're both helping brighten up our winter days here in Australia. Love M's Melbourne, Victoria. It's so wonderful. I just said that Renli has got a new word, haven't I? So we're on two. We've got Mama Down, we've got Dad a Down. We've got Ani.

Aunty? But you just can't do the T's Arnie. Evers. We can do Evers, Evers. We've got Eden. Our new one is Ember. Yes. But to him, it's Emma.

Emma. And where he, Colby facetimes Ember. So they do roadblocks together. When we're at home and we've got time at home, they've been having their tablet time. But Colby will always FaceTime Ember on his tablet. And they just play the game together. So cute, so cute, so wonderful. But he's like, Ember, Ember, go here. Ember, go here. Ember do this. So now every time Renley picks up my phone, he goes, Emma, Emma, Emma, Emma, Emma. Because he can't say the B. Can't do the B. can't do the B and it's very funny we've done nice nice and he does that nice

so we're getting there with his words but the funny one is Emma Emma yeah maybe he just loves me maybe he just does love you maybe you're just rubbing off on him it is a wonderful age

I won't lie to the words I love the first words coming in are just so cute Sadie Joseph used to be like wow but Sadie hasn't got well but every time she sees like something or I put some clothes on her I put a plate of food down in front of her

she goes ooh oh my God I think that's iconic That is wonderful. It can be the most basic thing. Like I'll give her like a bit of toast and she goes, ooh. And I'm like, she must have got that from me. She must have got, maybe. Do I do that?

Oh, I haven't heard you say it. Ooh. Looky. Ours is well, but Redney says a real sarcastic way and he goes, wow. Wow. Wow. Yeah. Here's your dinner.

Oh, wow. Yeah. You want a brieche? Yeah. Do you want a bourbon? Oh, wow. Sadie similarly has got a sarcastic okay. I'll be like, stop doing that.

Or we're going to go here and do this now. Okay. She goes, okay. Okay. Okay. like whatever, Mum. Okay. Wow. Wow. Thank you so much, Ems, for being here. We appreciate you so incredibly much. Thank you for all of you today. These are wonderful ones this week.

Wonderful messages. I mean, every week, they're fucking wonderful. I look forward to them every week, don't you? I do. Makes me feel so fucking normal. I love them. I love them. And if you'd like to share your secrets with us, she can. The email is hello at secret mumpod.com or with Secret Mumpod on TikTok and Instagram. Has your little one been run around, Shelty? Or have you experienced a nose-blowing-induced labour? Let us know. There really is nothing too outrageous. Keep an eye out for our Thursday episodes. And we'll see you next time on the Secret Mum Club.

I'm Jesse Crookshank, and on my podcast, Phone a Friend. I break down the biggest stories in pop culture, but when I have questions, I get to Phone a Friend. I phone my old friend, Dan Levy. You will not die hosting the Hills after show. I get thirsty for the hot wiggle. I didn't even know a thirsty man until there was all these headlines. And I get schooled by a tween. Facebook is like a no. That's what my grandma's on.

Thank God. Phone a Friend with Jesse Crookshank is not available on Facebook. It's out now wherever you get your friends. podcasts. Acast helps creators launch, grow, and monetize their podcasts everywhere. acast.com.