Secret Mum Club with Sophiena - The Secret Sister Club

Episode Date: October 15, 2024

Another week, another special guest! This time, Roxanne joins Soph to answer all your questions, and things get feisty when they share their favourite childhood stories. Plus, we hear a secret about keeping an eye on your teens! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

hello this is the secret mom club i'm safina and i'm roxanne welcome to another special episode where my icon of a sister is here yep i'm stepping in for emma this week and i can't wait to get started shall we jump on in let's you gotta loosen up you can't be this serious okay okay you gotta let yourself go it's just you and me having a little girl's day nothing serious okay i don't want to say she's nervous but she generally is pooping her pants i am now i'm in the chair i've spoken about you so much on the podcast how do you feel about being on the mic although we did just touch on that but generally how do you actually feel i'm excited it's really is it weird it's like bring your sister to work day

yeah it is like when you're going to work with your parents but today it's with we were saying that at waterloo weren't we when dad used to take us to work with him we also bought roxanne's favorite human in the world my twinny don't want to say it's over her own children but he it may be close. There you go. That's what he feels about being here. But you're good with it though, aren't you? You are good with what I do. You just muscle in, like if you're on my socials or anything like that.

Well, it's lovely to be involved and asked to join in. It's really exciting to be here and see the studio and see your face. Not that you don't see enough of it every single day. Yeah, no, it's really, it's really cool. Last week we had amazing questions for Chrissy. Yeah, they come in. They were great. Although he was a little bit like you.

You know when Chandler Bing has to smile for a camera and he does this, he goes. That was Chris. He gets on the camera. He does really great, real banter. He gets on the mic and he's like, yeah, so it's pretty cool. That was it. There was nothing else. What's it like living with a cool fiance like Safina?

And he just went, good. Yeah, it's all right. No elaboration on it. It was just dead like, yes. Could have needed more than one word answer. It is what it is. Work with me. Yeah, work with me a little bit.

So we're going to get into some questions because they've got questions for you. Okay. So now you're in the firing line. you ready i wasn't ready for questions straight away but let's go with it you have to okay right this one is from lucy roxanne you have four children and a busy business busy business very busy how do you juggle all of it to be quite honest with you loose i'm fucking waiting for this answer because I don't know if she fucking does it. I don't know if you know. I just think you just jumble along, don't you? You're there, you've got one baby, then another comes along and another and the train just keeps moving. You can't get off. So you just got to ride with it, haven't you? No. You make it look effortless.

You lured me into a false sense of illusion because i thought fuck she's had these four babies i'll try this is my time if my sister can do it i can do it it's the person you're doing it you're doing it now i'm doing it great but when i had colby we all have that bit where you're like i'm not doing this this is crazy what have i got myself into and i think sometimes where i don't talk about it you did actually have a little bit of a tough time with Eden, didn't you? Yes. You found it very isolating at home when you had Eden. I was quite young though, wasn't I? And the mums and babies club groups can be intimidating if you don't know people to go along and you're not as chatty. I'm not very chatty, am I? No.

Yeah. I'd say the older you're getting, the more chatty i'm not very chatty am i so no yeah but i'd say the older you're getting the more chatty you'll get yes yeah but the children give you more confidence don't they because you have to stand up for them and speak uh support them and get them you have to go to school and speak on their behalf yes yeah yeah so no one's gonna do that are they you have to you're a tough nut now so and you're toughening me up every day. Get out there. I'm not a tough old bird. I also just don't take any shit.

No. But you make it look so effortlessly. You were 21 when you had Aiden or 22? 21 when I got pregnant, 22 when I had her. I think you think you're old at 22, aren't you? But actually now, that's quite young. Let's just go back to 21-year-old Safina. Should we have thrown a baby in

the mix there you were the coolest auntie though yes i fucking was hey renice convertible car taking them to town buying them all the sweets in the world eden was living i used to pick her up on my lunch hour and take her around the block in my convertible she was l-i-v-i-n i was the coolest auntie i was 19 would i have had a baby at 21? Probably. Yeah, you would have had one. But I would have... That would just... It's not a great combination.

21-year-old me was not... Was just not the one. How old were you when you were in Colby? Fell pregnant at 27, had him at 28. Oh, see, yeah, that's quite... That is quite a difference. You had four whole humans by the time I had one. I really had, yeah.

I really had. Emily was what, 10 months? Yeah, so you were well-practiced. You knew it was what was coming. You lured me into this false sense illusion. I thought, fuck, this is going to be well cool. No, you can't give them back. You can't give them to nobody.

Yeah, there is no break. No. Is she next? Is Soph as funny in real life as she is on her socials? That came in from Pamela. Yes, the answer is no break. No. Is she next? Is Soph as funny in real life as she is on her socials? That came in from Pamela. Yes, the answer is definitely yes. This is what you're getting. There is no off switch where she all just chills out for a couple of hours.

No. No, you're always funny. You always see the light and the funny side. You're positive. Always look on the broad. There's not. I mean, being out in like london with seven children that it's not easy but you make it fun and you make it easy and yeah don't

so we'll fucking cry no it's true it's not it's easy to you could get stressed we could all get stressed but you make situations easy look there had to be someone to have the education um i just chose not to have that one i chose to be the funny one and i've actually been promoted haven't i because you would even categorically say that richie was the funny one but when i tell people that richie was funny growing up really funny so funny tell people that she thought he might be a comedian like Like he was that funny. He is not funny no more. Very serious is our Rich. He's very serious, yeah. He's funny, but he's like a different kind of funny.

Must have hit like teenage years and then all the humour bit. Like don't get us wrong, we love him dearly, but he's quite serious, isn't he? Yes. And I feel like his funniness was the same funny when we were young. It's like he's not developed on. No. No. Yeah.

He's got like a childish sense of humor. But lovely though. Yeah. A lovely sense. I'm definitely the fucking funniest. You would win on the funny awards. Yes. I'm a hoot.

People think as well that I is an act. No, it's not an act. Like my TikToks and my Instagram. No. I'm not really that person no no and imagine how impossible that would be to keep that up all the time if it wasn't really you no yeah or am i generally as lovely as i am and yes and my social yeah yeah you are that's you yeah people can be mean about but you are very loving very, very cuddly. You always have been.

But yeah, you were always. Don't get mum here. She'll sing my praises. I was mummy's girl growing up. You was massively, yeah. Massively mummy's girl. No one else could get a look in because you were. I just, I would honestly agree that I am truly a really funny person.

Yeah. Sometimes not intentionally meaning to be funny. Like when I tanned myself pregnant and I was having a mental breakdown and I said to Roxanne, like, I need to know some more details as to where we're going. I tanned my body and I sent her a video. When I asked you, like, how you were tanning or what you were tanning, I didn't imagine you to send me an actual bird's eye view from the floor of you tanning yourself in your underwear you to send me an actual bird's eye view from the floor of you

tanning yourself in your underwear i thought that's what you wanted no i just wanted to know what level like i've got 20 minutes to go i've got a bit of tan on my legs we're ready not a whole there wasn't a time that i needed to laugh i've had a bit of a dilemma with my hair this week and when i asked chris for his help he laughed i was not at any point being funny it was not sometimes when i'm trying not to be funny they think i'm funny but anyhow enough of me let's get back on to you tasha wants to know what was it like growing up with twins as siblings that's an interesting one we've got some more We've got some more. Oh, okay. Because she said, I have 20-month-old twin boys and a three-year-old. So that's basically our age gap.

And I have such mum guilt for my three-year-old who gets left out. No. If they get, sorry, she said three-year-old if they get left out. I think you can feel that, but you shouldn't. I don't think, regardless of whether you had twins or whether you had two children three children four children i think the guilt is always there for the first baby yes yes i feel i get guilty now that i'm not giving colby enough of my time because i'm with renly and dotty because she likes but they have had they've had their time, haven't they? Where they won't remember that one-on-one time

when they were a baby. And the time does equal out. There'll be times when like they can stay up a little bit later, isn't there? And you can have one-on-one and like going to football and... Rennie Rouge. What's her matter?

Yeah, going out to like a club. Yeah. Yes. Agreed. I think it's harder with twins,'t it because yes there's double yeah you're you are dividing your attention but i wouldn't say it does anything to you or you're missing out on anything by being the oldest i think it was lovely i think i that's why i wanted mine so close together because i wanted that because we were so close. Yeah. We were obviously all like within three years.

I feel like right now, I feel like right now, Tasha will feel like it's not paying off. No. But I feel like in years to come. Now looking back, I love it. I love having you two at the same age.

I love being your big sister. I wouldn't have chosen a different role. I love being the oldest. I don't think I missed out on anything i don't look back and think mom really neglected me while she was younger while she was concentrating on safina mainly um anyone would that would be implying that i was the hard work baby i was you'd never guess that now no um actually maybe maybe i am still the hardest work one no that's right no you took that baton we swapped she wouldn't say any of us are if she was here now no i generally loved it yeah us being and you're all you're all close in age yeah and that means

you've got a really similar interest they will have similar interest and we were at school together yes yeah that's lovely when you're at senior school and then you can be really proud that your siblings are coming up too and you can be there for them and support them yeah i love being the oldest but yes tasha i hope that you don't don't feel guilty i was gonna say you're doing a great job you are gonna feel it will get easier i'm not gonna gloss the turd and say that it's gonna feel easier because it's not you are gonna feel guilty and you're to feel guilty for a really long time. But I feel like the guilt is because you care. Yeah, and they're not going to remember.

They won't remember this tough bit where you're in your pajamas all day. Don't they say everything before the ages of four they don't actually remember? I mean, I don't remember anything before four. No, I don't remember anything before. Cracking my head open when I fell down the stairs. She had meningitis and she fell off the top of the stairs and cracked her head open. Do you know what?

I remember falling to the floor and as I looked down the kitchen, you were on mum's leg. That's how clingy you were. You were clinging like a koala to the bottom of her leg. That's like before I knocked myself out. That's what I remember. And nearly unalived.

Maybe slightly, yeah. Crumbs. Well, I hope that's not a downer on your question there with child neglect it was fine it was fine i'm okay now there was no banisters on the stairs well we probably should mention that they did take the banister it was the 80s yeah i think it was like that floating stairs thing yeah that come out of the wall didn't it and it had no banister three and a like three years old and two one year olds it probably wasn't but isn't it funny now though when you look back at the things that mum did when we were little now you'd never do that well things were a lot

different then things were a lot different yes but thank you for your question Tasha and we appreciate you so much and I feel like it's not going to get better but you are doing amazing and one day they will look back and thank you yeah they will look back and thank you you're doing an incredible job right next is your question is it yeah i'm not very good at the red specs sophie asks what is your favorite childhood memory of safe well i mean there's so many i feel like i don't know where to start i'll tell you a funny memory of growing up with rox. Funny, wasn't at the time. Is it funny now?

No, probably childhood trauma. Roxanne used to, we shared a bedroom. Yeah, look at her face. I hope you can zoom in on that. You're going to make me out like I'm the evil one. She was. She was evil. Sometimes.

So Roxanne, we had to share a bedroom and Roxanne used to make us divide. I bet a lot of people, children that shared bedrooms, have done this in their lifetime. Okay, I bet they didn't do what you fucking did to me. She used to divide the room up with all of her stuff, right? And she used to give me the section near the window, meaning she got the section with the door.

So half and half. We weren't allowed to. You can't cross over the line. She didn't put like a nice little angle around to divvy it up from the door. You half and half. We weren't allowed to, you can't cross over the line. She didn't put like a nice little angle around to divvy up from the door. You should have figured out. She used to sit, I used to sit in my bedroom for hours

because Roxanne told me I wasn't allowed to go into her bedroom and leave the room. We shared a bedroom up until, would you say 10? Until we left our first house. We were nine when we left our first house. You were, so I was nine.

Yeah, okay. Yeah, I was actually going up to secondary school. Yeah. So yeah, that was not so much of a fun memory. Also, another memory to share. Sorry, I don't want to take Roxanne's limelight. Clearly, you can tell I'm the talker of the family. We were playing with our next door neighbours

and we were playing hide and seek. I don't think this is true. I don't think this is entirely true. You're going to tell me you hid and i left no it's not about me and roxanne it's a collective here it was me and roxanne because we were both in this situation right we were playing hide and seek with the next door's children and we were hiding from richie so we had the next door's children because my mum was looking after them so we went and hid in next door's garage. But as we hid in next door's garage,

the latch went over the door, meaning we couldn't exit the garage without, from the inside. Someone had to open it from the outside. I shit you not, we were in there fucking hours. Well, because mum would have been inside. Mum was inside sorting the house out. The housework just thought,

oh, they're all out in the garden playing playing richie got bored of trying to find us so went and played on his playstation left us in the garage and there was a bottle of cider in there and i just remember thinking i'll just piss in this cider because no one's ever gonna know it's the same color and richie richie locked us in the shed you should have thought about drinking it so we didn't die of dehydration. I was fucking seven. I can't drink. Well, you might have needed some form of drink. I don't know how old we were.

But yeah, and then it wasn't until my mum said, like, where are all the children? The kids would just text her. They'd have a phone with them playing hide and seek, wouldn't they? Like Tobias, when we were away the other day, Tobias got locked in the toilet. Rather than knocking on the door for someone's help, he Snapchatted Eden and said, help bro, I'm locked in the loo.

Didn't even go on the family WhatsApp chat. Didn't even do this. Didn't even knock the door. Didn't go on the family WhatsApp. Snapchatted, or they say snapped, don't they? Yeah.

Snapped Eden. Tell her name is up to the toilet. That's a teenager in modern world now. Well, no, we couldn't text richie because we were one too young so it wasn't till mum come out and was like how long have you been in here days fucking and we were in there hours hours and hours and hours so there there's my fun memories maybe not so fun there's got to be a bit of sibling i was gonna say fighting

arguing yeah we loved a good dumb door push you know when like i'll be on one side you be on the other like let me in no you're not coming in yeah but we never touched each other like in the sense we never fought with each other we never put our hands on each other like a fight no no not like i never dragged your hair and pulled you down well occasionally might try and do something and then you'd be like you start like or i'd say something and then you'd like start screaming and i'd be like, because you want mum to look then so you can get maximum penalty points for like being the mean older. I've got loads of fond memories. Like even when we were in like the first house, do you ever remember like mum, when she used to say, no one's allowed to laugh. There was a karaoke machine in the front room. Yeah, because she'd be like, don't laugh now, but you can't make'd be when i couldn't look at roxanne because i choke on my food yeah like

i don't want to eat the broccoli so you'd be like pushing this around on your plate and she'd be like no one's leaving the table tv in your dinner and then i would laugh and then you can't look at the person that's laughing because then you burst into laughter that was me i was always the one laughing yeah and then she'd get mad you can't make eye contact she'd get really angry um good happy memories we were telling the children the other day when we were dressed to go out for dinner like mum oh fucking hell this bloody haunts me this one does mum used to like like you'd be in the day in the swimming pool and then you'd go and shower and get all dolled up ready to go for dinner in the evening so mum used to like dressing us in pretty

dresses matching hair bows would all go down and then obviously as we got a little bit older and maybe she was upstairs dad would be in the bar and she'd be like right you guys go and wait by the pool or by the play area and we'll we'll come and call you when we're going that's when hotels were safe and you could just children could mooch around i think yeah but dad might have seen us from the bar um pretended like he's watching us and not watching the football. But we'd start playing games like, let's try and dare each other. So Richie jumped across the stepping stone. Run across the pool on them stepping stones

and see if you can make it to the other side. Well, for many years they paid off. Soce fell in. Soce fell in, fully dressed, ready to go out for the evening, head to toe in the swimming pool. And then...

Oh, fuck, I was so scared to tell mum. Who was going to go and tell mum? Who's going to... Are we just sending Sophs in there on her own, like she is wet, or do one of us go in first to break the news, like don't go mad, but that whole outfit you just put on,

I wasn't just a little bit wet. No, you were like ready. You could have got back in and had a swim. I was saturated through to the bone. And when I was walking through the hotel, I was just leaving sloppy wet footprints all through the hotel. And dad just went, she is going to fucking kill you. No one wants to go up there with you.

No one. You've got to go on your own. I made dad go in first. Yeah. I mean, that's a funny memory though. Now it's funny. It wasn't funny at the time. I thought that was the end for me.

I thought that was it. She's taken me out of here. My life. It was not a good one. There's so many, isn't there? I feel like we could say loads. Yeah, go on forever. We could go on forever.

Like when Roxanne wore a retainer that went round to the back of our ears and she looked like Dora from... It's not. It's that child from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory when he's eaten too many sweets you were yeah that one but you were the girl in finding nemo when she goes to see her uncle in the dentist when she had they never do that children nowadays it was very funny it was a

funny time in my life roxanne used to shut herself in the bedroom so no one could see her at bedtime because it would give people nightmares also when we'd had when mum used to tell us to stay in our rooms when we moved to our second house mum used to tell us to stay in our rooms when we moved to our second house mum used to tell us to stay in our rooms so we used to send notes under the door to each other or if two of the two of us weren't talking like if me and richie had fallen out and i'd be in the bedroom of roxanne richie would sit in the hallway and i'd be like don't let him in the bedroom we used to send notes to each other under the door as to like resolve it that's good fun yeah like Yeah. Like tick a box,

tick a box. If you want to talk to Richie again. No. And he'd be like, oh, but I'd really like to talk to you. Do you want to tick a box? If you want to open the door?

No. Roxanne be like, oh, I think we need to let him in. I did tell the, the Christmas ones are always funny, aren't they? Honestly,

I feel like this is going to be like a 45 minute episode. Yeah. The Christmas one's iconic. Well, you'll just have to, you'll have to come back-minute episode. Yeah. The Christmas one's iconic. Well, you'll just have to... We talked to children about that as well. You'll have to come back for that one. Okay.

Because that's an iconic story. But thank you, Sophie, so much for your question. I feel like I've answered it on my sister's behalf. Sorry about that. I did speak. You did speak. So Holly says, Hi, ladies.

I'm curious to know, have you always been super close or did you grow closer once you both had children? We did speak about this on the train we're allowed to be honest we didn't get along no i wanted to be nice i didn't want to be like oh sorry i fucking hated you i didn't hate you i just know you don't understand each other do you yeah we just didn't get we just did not get along in the slightest did we wasn't till roxanne had eden even up to the day she had Eden, probably the first day that I met Eden,

our whole relationship changed. Yeah. Yeah. We went through the like emo. I was a bit... Roxanne was emo. I wasn't. I was chav. Yeah.

With my gold jewellery. And that's just never going to work. You wouldn't have a husband and wife like that, would you? You wouldn't go together. You haven't got the same music taste, fashion clothes. Yeah, I was going to say,

it was more like the fashion than music. You were out wanting to hang with your friends and I wanted to sit in and... Smoke weed every day. Mope and get glum listening to rock music. So, yeah, the teenage years were... No. Were not hand in hand. We were chalk and cheese.

Yes. Yeah. Yeah, I would say we were chalk and cheese. There's elements of us that are still chalk and cheese. Like with you, you would walk in somewhere and light up the room and, like, chat to to anybody whereas i'd walk in the room awkwardly not talk to people no one would even notice i'm there yeah and i'm just happy to go to the bar and sit on my own whereas you'd be people just like are attracted to you and your energy and they

really love that but you you you have changed a lot since having the children yes you're so much cooler now that's probably your influence either you're cooler or i'm just more boring yeah maybe maybe you haven't noticed i think you're blinded by the baby the baby haze but no we haven't always had i feel like when we were little we had a really good little relationship yes yeah and then probably when we both went we were probably the closest because we were could play girls stuff together so i think it's secondary school is what broke us a little because we were all in junior school then you left to go to secondary and then obviously me and richie went up to join you and that's probably where we just didn't have anything in

common no the babies brought us closer that's your most your angry years isn't it everyone's all a bit yeah 12 and grumpy yeah no one wants to socialize you just want to sit on your own and i feel like i'm quite glad of that though i'm glad that we had the relationship we had back then me personally i'm in my era of like appreciation yes like i don't i feel like if i'd had this when we were younger i definitely would take it for granted whereas i feel like being older i don't take you for granted or our relationship or having you around you know we can appreciate it now yeah yeah yeah we haven't always had it no but we get on maybe we would have been more like fed up with each other yes what i mean we just got to 25 that's

it see you later fuck you and watching the children now you appreciate your learning aren't you and you're like taking it in and i can see how they're all growing up and playing and yeah yeah it pays off doesn't it yeah it's nice but i feel like it's nice because the children get to now see our relationship yes so they're the seven of them are watching you and me. Yeah, so maybe that's where, yeah, you have to work at it like a husband-wife relationship partner. Because all eyes are on you. Yeah, they are watching you.

And like our relationship with mum and stuff. We want to always set a good example for them, but we are very close. That's a good point. Yeah, we want them to see siblings and we bring them up as siblings. Obviously not to just do it for the sake of doing it because sometimes your family just doesn't, it doesn't work out.

I do feel very lucky that I do have you and that we get along. Yes. But I feel like if it's working, it's all eyes on you. Yeah, but we haven't grown up with a close family. No. We would say we were a five. We grew up as a five. And that's all we were.

We didn't have grandparents, aunties, uncles, cousins when people got to go the weekend for sleepovers and they were packing a suitcase and i spent all weekend at my grandma's and she took me here and we bought this and we didn't have that we only had our parents and we had each other and then what roxanne said is you know what i did all weekend cut the room in half and didn't give my sister the door so i just watched the fucker in there all weekend i had a really tough weekend yeah so we never did anything like christmas or anything so we're trying to change that and have a lovely family for them and so they've all got each other so they don't have to oh shit you're not right though even everly says it as well is the children say it's okay i don't need friends because i've

got my cousins for forever they're my friends that was lush though because we never had yeah and it doesn't feel like cousins they feel like they're just kind that was lush though because we never had yeah and it doesn't feel like cousins they feel like they're just kind of extended brothers yeah but thank you holly for your question we appreciate you hope that answers some more questions on our little sister sister never knew how much i missed you you've got to sing along if you're taking over in my space she sings with me sing my um hear my singing to listen to hear my singing voice. They have to listen to me sing. But we'll be back with some more questions after this. Welcome back.

We've got more questions for Roxanne. So are you ready? Yeah. Locked and loaded? Yeah. Let's go with round two. Ingaa said i absolutely love your dynamic as sisters it's so nice to see you be so supportive of each other but i know what real sibling life is like so go on what really annoys you about each other i feel like you you'd start there's nothing oh come. There's nothing that annoys you.

That I faff. My name. Roxanne's nickname in the house is faffer because she just faffs about everything. She just makes sometimes like a mountain out of a molehill. Yeah, but I like to just worry and know like. No, just be there. If we're going to clock, why do you need to know what knickers I'm wearing? What do we need to take?

What are we packing? Will we take the children food? Do they need food? Yes, you faff about everything. I am the faffer. She is the faffer. I'm soppy. That's my nickname in the house.

I like to be really organised, but like so organised that it annoys you. Like we're meeting at nine, 9.15 we're getting a cup of tea, 9.30 I'm in my head. If I know exactly what we're doing throughout the day to the like the 15 minute point, I'm happy and content

and everyone, it should go swimmingly but sometimes it takes a fun out of shit you know sometimes it's a bit of a i'm a fun organized you wanted to be at the baby shower before you got there and i was like they were all like mucking around and they were like just chill out chill out yeah i'll plan this day for months months i've planned this she said don't tell me to chill out. And you always go, I'm sorry. This is so, sorry. This is so rubbish. I'm sorry.

I could have done better. Shut up. It's what literally so wonderful. And you go, that's mom. I get it from mom. And you go, oh, she'll pass your present. You've not even opened it. She goes, oh, sorry.

I just ran out of time. I just didn't have enough time to get you to get you anything nice. Or I didn't have time to shut up. It's wonderful. it's so wonderful go on then yeah i'm trying to think what i was thinking then i know sorry there's me like oh you're miss perfect over there and then you're like no come on there's something right actually there is i'm just going to get off my chest so now you're saying about me you what annoys me about you i mean your last yours would be the opposite then your last minute you're happy to

say like last night about seven o'clock um we're on the podcast tomorrow um you need to be up and ready hold on a fucking minute i gave her plenty of time i just told her at seven o'clock that the train was at 808 and we needed to be there and chris probably wasn't coming and we needed to ring mum and let mum know about stuff obviously Obviously with my planning, I probably would have done this about two weeks ago. But ain't no one got time for two weeks, two weeks ago. You just want to have fun. I was busy two weeks ago.

I like to live in the moment. Live for like right now. I don't want to be living like on a planner. Imagine like my Disney planner. Fuck, never ever go to. I'm scared to go to Disneyland with Roxanne again because I tell you, there ain't no fun in Disney when Roxanne goes.

You've got to get in there and get to the stuff. There's times, there's shows. You've got to stick to the schedule. You've got to get around. No one wants to go there and miss half the ride. This one time in Disneyland Paris, I ate my bagel that was on my breakfast because it was continental.

And we had a breakfast come to our room. You have to eat the food. And I ate my bagel and Roxanne was like um so guys where's your bagels and me and Chris were like oh we we ate our bagels because that was like our breakfast and she was like you're not meant to eat your bagel you're meant to take them to the park we haven't got time to stop for lunch and I was like that was like your breakfast bagel so we'd had a bit of breakfast but we could could save that for lunch. Well, we had a croissant and a yogurt and a little fruit that had been brought to the room and a baguette.

You can eat that bagel in the queue, but now we would have had to stop, get in the Disney queue for food, which is long, and then waste time. It's a valuable queue in time. You could have been on a ride. I was pregnant with Dottie. You were really pregnant as well. The guilt sets in for her that she literally was like a drill sergeant there was time we were waddling behind and we were

steaming on ahead faster faster come on it wasn't actually Roxanne didn't realize until we got home that she maybe had pushed it a little bit too far when I was like look I just need a break from you I need some yeah I said I need some time away you've done too much Chris hated her very much it was the era of where chris and roxanne just didn't have a relationship um and yeah so that's another one on you talk to me what is my what's my flaws no that wasn't that was me i was running that you you're too i'm too organized and you're too relaxed too unorganized i'm obviously too fun too happy no that's not a bad thing thank you it is annoying that you're too relaxed, too unorganised. I'm obviously too fun. Too happy.

No, that's not a bad thing. Thank you. It is annoying that you're the fun one. In fact, actually, the kids would prefer you to be mum because you can relax and just have fun. I'm not the fun parent in any way. You were always the fun auntie. You do say sometimes your role should have maybe just been auntie,

so you could have just picked them up, spoiled them, and go have oodles of i was i'm the really fun auntie yeah sorry amy if you're listening but i am i am the fun auntie i'm the fun we've all got our qualities amy amy has to go to work though doesn't she yeah when we see her she's fun but she has an important job yes right we're on to the next question shall we have a look oh it's me philippa wants some advice she is a mom of two with two young babies under three and she really wants to start a business so she can stay at home and be with them more do you have any tips for someone just starting out this is basically you when you started with eden tobias yeah also if you can hear sucking apologies renly's just having his moomoos so i don't want you to be able to hear sucking

and then you're like what is that that is exactly the same actually Tobias was 9 months old and he's now 13 so Eden would have been like 3 I feel like you've got to go with it I feel like you've just got nothing to lose

no nothing's going to hurt you have a go find your little thing that you enjoy enjoying it is the most important thing don't just make it

for the sake of making money yeah wanting to start a bit because you're never going to get rich well you might if you're a real entrepreneur you've really got to love it yeah

yeah because when they go to bed and you're really exhausted that's your time to do it you find the energy's your time to do it find the energy in yourself to just do it yes enjoy it have fun i feel like you've got nothing to lose we live in a world now where everybody wants something that's a little bit different nobody wants the generic stuff from the high street i feel like everybody wants something that's a little bit

different unique definitely not yeah not the generic no especially when it comes to like baby bits as well yeah my my advice would just be to go for it one you gotta do it yeah and two start doing bits for friends and family isn't it but like you started like facebook didn't you people were popping them on facebook and you were spreading the word in your office yeah because i worked and i worked in an office so i used to take bits into and that builds your confidence if people like it and you know that they are buying it that's the same with my flowers though yeah as i used to i gave them to you and you put them on your pictures of your signs and people would ask and you load them on your instagram and share them with friends on your instagram and your socials start small i

personally didn't wouldn't jump straight into the ety, would you? No, I wouldn't. Because you pay the fee. Yes. Yeah. It's not worth the fee. Yeah, and it can be sad and a bit hard if you're not, well, I've not sold 10 orders today. I've sold nothing all week. And then you start, should I be doing this?

Am I wasting my time? Not every week's going to be a good week, is it? No. But yeah, if your friends and family are loving it, you can even do like little school fairs and things they're nice and then you're seeing people's reactions to things what is popular and not popular you can nominate yourself to do on like a stall at the school fair to raise to raise some some money that way and small things so thank you philippa i hope that

helped you out a bit she could message you you on Instagram, couldn't she? She could message me. She could message you on your personal one. Or your endless treasures. Definitely. Drop Roxanna a message. She's more than happy. Anyone with any questions, Roxanna, I feel like you've been doing it years. Some woman asked me the other day about your iron, where your iron was from.

She did. Yeah. There's a lot of people that message you questions. I feel like I'm okay or where my iron's from. Yeah, they do want to know a lot if you're okay because i'm rubbish at replying well you probably get a million more than i do yeah but if anybody has any questions or philippa yeah message roxanne on my pa now i will answer questions for her and finally we've had so many messages just wanting to send love so diane said

you're a bloody icon in capital actually yes i'm gonna say you okay okay kirsty wanted to tell you that you're an incredible mom no that's very i guess that could go to both of us don't ever change and lisa said i just wanted to let you know how inspiring you and so far these generally i think are for you shit someone thinks you're an icon screenshot that and keep that in your memories. I've never been called an icon. I call you an icon all the time.

And then it says, how inspiring you and Soph are. Keep going, mamas. Thank you. That's really lovely, isn't it? That is really lovely. I can't believe, fucking hell,

Diane called you an icon. Come on, Diane. Anywho, thank you so much for your questions. If you have any questions, thoughts or fun stories, why not get in touch?

Drop the ladies an email. It's hello at secretmumpod.com and make sure to follow them on TikTok and Instagram. It's secretmumpod on both. Now it's time for one of your secrets. I hope you're prepared. That was your homework. Did you do it?

I should. No, one, because I asked you to get organised and tell me what research I have to do and be ready for. It's not even your secret. This is somebody else's secret that you're going to share. Okay. So, Roxanne, what do you have for us this week? Right.

Are you ready? Yes. Hey, gorgeous mums. I have a secret that is going to sound controversial. We love them when they're controversial. Sometimes I pretend I don't know how to use TikTok just so I can spy on my teenage daughter's account without her thinking I'm snooping.

And I act like I'm oblivious to teen slang when she tries to explain it to me. It's a balancing act between staying informed and giving her space. But hey, a mum's got to do what a mum's got to do. Yes, she has. From Anonymous. I feel like Roxanne can speak very well.

I feel like that might have been slightly aimed at me. Is it you that's written in? No, yeah. Is that why you stayed anonymous? It is my secret. It is Roxanne's secret. Pretty much is, because you do do that. Yes.

Well, not so much now maybe when the tiktok was a thing so maybe like two three years ago because eden would have been 12 13 and in the midst of the social media world it was covid so they were all just kind of sat at home wanting something to do yeah and used to pretend yes like you didn't know what you were doing no although sometimes i think she's a great actor no generally that's roxanne she generally doesn't have a clue no she opens her phone like my mom and she's like what is this what is this snappity chappity the snapchat i genuinely i don't have to be fair i'm with you on that one i haven't got a clue on snapchat i haven't

got it i think i know more is because i i do tiktok yes and instagram yes that's the only reason if i didn't i don't think i'd know as much as i like an extra hobby how many of these full-on hobby apps can we have and how much do we have to know each one i feel like anonymous this isn't controversial controversial to some maybe but not to me no i don't think it's controversial i think it's very clever she's doing her mum homework she is just mum boss in life down with the kids she is down with the kids yeah i also love that isn't it a full circle when you used to lie to your parents they knew you were lying but in your head you thought you were so fucking cool you've got to try and outsmart them you i thought i did until years now that my dad says yeah you know that time you said this is this and i was like wasn't i cool i went to that house party

and you didn't know and dad was like i sat in the bush outside the fucking house all night i watched you oh god i was smoking cigarettes like a chimney dad i'm so sorry because we use the house phone as well like they they would listen on the other end of the house till you twicked that you could hear when someone picked up the other receiver and you could hear the other end. And I'd be like, hold on, I think my mum, are you on the line? And she'd be like, you do a scuff. Oh, I was just going to make a call. Oh, sorry.

I just popped on. I thought I thought the line was free. She hadn't. She'd been listening the whole the whole the whole time. She knew your plan. Yeah. I think I'm more scared now because I feel like back then it was way harder to hide and i thought i was cool then yeah back in the day it was way harder to hide i can track my children they carry that phone

everywhere i can follow them to every room in the house and know exactly where they are that's what we could go to parks couldn't we back then was harder to for them to find to find us sorry yeah nowadays you can know on the whatsapp how many minutes they were online you've got find my find my child yeah there's things you can put in their rucksacks which they've got no chance to go into the park and trying to drink lamborini and stuff like that no no hopes you'll be like i can see you and where you are come home i can see you now in the park bring the wine back i could google map them and be like fuck i can't i'm watching the whole party that's what i mean i feel like

it was easy about now i'd struggle yeah i'll be able to fucking lie at all no no you couldn't outsmart i don't know how they can do it today nowadays should we try it as an experiment with mom and dad okay test we've got to go out and have fun and they've got to try and find out what we're doing shit no mum's fucking she's bloody csi she'll find out within seconds mum she always knows we always go out and we do things not intentionally like to leave mum out but we do things and we say oh we better not say anything to mum because you don't hurt her feelings like if we go to get some electrical cable for dad and we stop for a costa on the way back we say oh no don't tell mum because she'll get really sad that we we didn't take her for a costa

even though we weren't with her we were going past yeah we're going past she finds out she's like so how was that costa day that you two had the other day and we're like without me it wasn't it wasn't a Costa. We didn't do it. I'm so sorry. We didn't stop. We just kept driving. We thought about you the whole time.

We even got you a drink and let it go cold on the table. But yeah, it's harder. But I feel like there's a lot of mummies that will be with you on that one. Yeah. You're not alone. Yeah, you aren't alone. You're doing a good thing and you're protecting. I say clever as fuck.

Yeah, I love that though. That's a great one. Yeah, it is. Roxanne is like, she asks me if she can have my location. You're the only one in the family I can't see where you are at all times. That would have been us as children though. If we were now living this life as the three little people, they wouldn't have access to my fucking find me

well as teenagers no you'd be the one that turns it off all the time would turn it off they're not knowing where i am no not knowing where i am oh i went out of signal you just couldn't see me no you didn't you turned it off yeah i did turn it off oh my phone ran out of battery i know your game they'd know all my tricks now yeah all my tricks in the book isn't it funny though because colby sometimes does some of the things that i did when i was little and it does generally make me chuckle because i think you savvy little bastard you are doing little trickster doing all the bits i used to do and isn't it funny he goes oh how did you know i was gonna do that mum i've been there i've done it and then i'm like fuck i sound like mom i've done that got the t-shirt so yeah no i don't think it's controversial i think it's very

clever very mindful very demure very thoughtful thinking about your little people this is also the world is fucking scary yes that is true the world is really fucking really and mom said i don't think it's more scary now than when you were little i was like 100 it's way more scary but mum says it's because we didn't watch the news when we were little like the more stuff yeah and we weren't watching it constantly on phones and things yeah never had a phone nokia 5210 with my ticker front and your snake groovy girl aerial top yeah no one's watching the news on that also isn't it funny i was telling somebody the other day it might have been emma actually about the pager do you remember the pager yeah that you had and then got passed down to me because i didn't get put in the

same secondary school as you two and mum used to page me you didn't tidy your room today literally it was just used to be just really angry messages from my mum call me where am i gonna call you? I don't have a phone. There was one at secondary school. I had to go to the pay phone and put money in the pay phone. I never had money. I used to steal sausage rolls.

That's the secret mum club where no one... I used to steal the sausage rolls. I never had any money. Did she give us a pound to go off with? You have to be savvy with it, didn't you? I bought two cigarettes and used to smoke them in the bush. That's really bad. 50p a cigarette.

Oh, because you're one to talk. Well, I wasn't spending my lunch money. She was really bad. You was badder than me. You was really bad. At school. You used to go down the park. Not in school time.

She did. How do you think I got straight A's? You used to skive. I didn't get used to skive i didn't get straight she didn't get straight a's i didn't want to bring that up but i'm glad you i'm glad you're right i didn't skive school no way i would have been too scared if she'd have seen me down that park no way because there was this one time something really bad happened to the park and you had to come home and explain it to mom and you had to explain what you were doing at the park at that time it was the weekend that time do you remember when that girl was like

chasing us that was the weekend that was not in school time trust me for like your forbidden no okay maybe you didn't skip but you still done bad things in the park like drink lambrini well are you saying you haven't done that oh no 100 i drank lambrini mum and dad were very aware i drank lambrini i stole their alcohol you were just clever enough that you had a little saturday job you used to buy yours i didn't so yeah mum used to give us a pound i used to buy two black sovereign i used to get like five bags once and five chomps that was me for the day no cigarette buying you did smoke though yeah maybe not in school have you ever told the children this no you are they well there was a

really fun time in my life right when roxanne used to drive and we used to car share and you'd split up split up with your first boyfriend and we used to car share because you'd moved back home from bournemouth to live back with us and we used to drive in the car to work work and used to drop me off at the bowling green i got free parking at my work, you didn't. Yeah. So we had to drive the long way around. I dropped you off. And you used to drop me at the Bowling Green.

You used to drive up to Field Palmer. We used to have a share of cigarette on the way in and listen to Black Eyed Peas. And then we'd get to straight on MSN. Straight on MSN when I got to work. I was in the Bowling Green. I used to have to wait for Roxanne to get there. Give me five minutes.

We used to play games on MSN. Yeah, we did. And then I had to photocopy something yeah battleships yeah click the squares i had to photocopy stuff for people yeah you'd be like i've got to go got my cup of tea be back in two edgar needs me to do this brb brb yeah it was brb wasn't it so yeah there you go there's a trip down memory lane then this this podcast is very all over the place it's just literally our life growing up and now but yeah i say you're doing great thanks everyone's doing great especially our our

anonymous mummy yes she is she's doing fucking great i feel like she's one of your teen life is not for the week keep doing what you're doing slightly scared about it to be honest you should be are you secretly on tiktok then let us know email hello at secret mom pod.com or get in touch on tiktok and instagram do you fancy sticking around for another episode i do do you so we'll see you next time on the secret mom no you gotta take it back come on this was your fucking homework do you even listen to the podcast no

yes I do yes she does listen right it's because I said pod so many times up there what the whole thing make it drop that some wet airs

don't say that I'm not saying that word she won't even say it that's a rude word pussy no just go from that line right are you ready

and we'll see you next time on the secret mom club