Seeking Derangements - 02 - Interior Motives w/ Theda & Hesse

Episode Date: May 19, 2025

*FULL VIDEO IS FREE ON OUR PATREON* Hello everyone! Ben here, bringing you another episode of Interior Motives, the game show wherein you send us a photo of your bedroom (and the inside of your fridge) and we guess your gender, sexuality, age and location! Fan favorite and major transgender celebrity Theda Hammel joins Hesse and I to clock in and clock down! Want to be a part of Interior Motives? We're up to over 100 submissions but have yet to turn one down! Claim your spot in line and sign up here. Thank you to everyone who's submitting, the show is so much fun and we couldn't do it without you. While we might roast your rooms, it's all love.

And then we'll get right to it. It usually takes 45 minutes to an hour. Is that okay with you? Love it. It's probably great. Perfect. five minutes to an hour is that okay with you love it okay great perfect and welcome everyone to episode two of interior motives it's your host ben i'm here with the contestants hessa and theta welcome ladies how's it going today hi it's so great to be back on the i'm about to wipe the fucking floor in the seeking universe in the seeking universe i'm about to wipe the floor. How's his entry? I came in too cordial. Friendly. Happy.

I recognized you as a complete and total prey. You're giving the prey face to me right now. I'm a mark. And guess what? I'm about to get set and go. Let's not forget I will be playing with you because I don't know any of these

um our beautiful intern Natalia has built these so I'll be playing along with you I'll be seeing a lot of this for the first time as well if you're watching this for the first time out there the way the show works is we have uh listeners submit a photo of their bedroom a photo of their refrigerator and they'll also give us a hint our job is to guess their gender sexuality age and location um and the way the point system is going to work is for each identity point you get correct is a point let's say hessa guesses new york city and she's correct but she incorrectly guesses it's a gay guy she will not like that fake it's like that fake 4chan list where jewish counts for five points right no just kidding it's kind of it's kind of the egalitarian version of

that you could say it's i'm more online than both of you unable to comment I'm just gonna say no because I heard 4chan a Jew and a suit it's gonna be racist I'm taking my level down right right now on your mark get set stop this is my new philosophy um but before we get started i feel like it's only fair to if we're going to be clocking other people's bedrooms i want to ask you to what's one is there one thing in your room one object that you think would be a dead giveaway for your age location gender sexuality look around i mean i would be clogged as trans instantly well i'm not not talking about your face i'm kidding okay i'm kidding i'm kidding okay it's back on on your mark once again once again no yeah once again

we got her back i am am back. I am back. And it is go. It is go time. So it would be a transistor radio, Hessa? That's a regular radio, so a transistor radio. Sorry, I just added the trans. It's a trans-assista radio. I think so. You don't mind me saying.

What do I have? Yeah, what's in your room I have no idea where this would I think it would give me away as not a true born cisgender female effect that I have still to this day no furniture I've moved my bed

out of the I've moved my bed into my living room which is otherwise unfurnished and left the bedroom basically so that the downstairs neighbor can smoke in the middle of the night. And I let his smoke have that room. And so now I'm in the bare living room, which is the bed. I don't think that that bespeaks true-born femininity. know true born femininity i think that's

it is pretty new york i'd say though it is new york there you go yeah i mean i have like three i have like two furnitures or three yeah i think four three furniture one two three four five furnitures and two of them are fake Yeah, I'm in a weird middle ground too because I'm in my childhood bedroom. I think the thing that would... Because it very much just looks like a room in transit in some way, but I think the thing that might give it away is

this mammoth of a rowing machine to my left. I don't know if you can see that. Is that yours from childhood? It's... No. You had a rowing machine in the room? I wish I started rowing when I was a child. It'd look a lot different. But it's like my mom's discarded rowing machine that she gave to me. Ben, are you aware that I was on the varsity crew team in my high school?

Period. Isn't that pretty cool? That is amazing. Are any of those really clues? The fact that Hessa has four pieces of furniture I have none. You have a rowing machine. I can already tell that I'm not going to be very good at this

game. You're going to be good. Let's get to it. We'll get into it and we'll put other people's bedrooms. They are on the same team also. No, you're not. We're combining. I'm happy to combine.

So Theta, feel free to ask for a zoom on any of these images. If you want me to... What's that book title? Zoom Enhance. Computer Enhance. That's a book title? What's that book title zoom in enhance computer enhance kind of vibe um that's a book title

that's what what's that book title zoom in on a book title that's what i was trying to zoom in so this is a book called yeah okay this is our first contestant okay to start with let's start with this photo on the left here looks i'm kind of i'm loving the colors on the that we're seeing the photo on the left here honestly i'm gonna say immediately this looks like i used to live in denver colorado this looks like so many colorado girl bedrooms just because of all of the like nice thrifted vintage pieces this amber bedside clock is so colorado that's very especially missing the lamp shade yeah the lamp with no shade is a dead ass giveaway i don't smoke in a bunch of weed but here's the thing i feel like colorado bedroom

and or colorado apartment and everything else apartment. They all look so similar. But Colorado, a point towards Colorado. Can I get a zoom in on the window? Yeah, this also looks like this could be the greater. It's cold. This could be the greater Boulder, Denver area to me. When was this photo sent in, Ben?

Was this in the first batch past couple months yeah we're sorry for the beginning so it would have been maybe a month ago okay so that that opens up the this like surrealist nature girl art is again very it's trans i look i'm looking at that i don't say trans on this. Can I vote non-trans? I'm going to vote want. I'm going to cast my vote there. It's not a lock-in yet, though, Theta. So you have time. You lock in at the end.

You lock in right at the end. I'm tending toward thinking that this is not a trans person. I'm inclined to agree with you that this is cisgendered. I'm going to say female. And you know what? I'm going gonna go ahead and say i also agree wait is that even a window like zoom in wait look at that corner behind the oh wait no never mind pictures i thought the window was put your glasses on i got my glasses

on i have very bad eyesight even with my new glasses let's take a look at what's on her shelf here so we have derma e that's a very cisgendered girl okay alarm the smoke alarm she okay i'm watching this the smoke alarm she ripped out of the fucking wall because it's right above her pillow oh do you see that is that oh is that what that is is that that or is that all right that's a unicorn that's all right i thought that was the that's art but it is the exact i can i can totally see exactly how you could think do you do you think that there are smoke alarms that go like halfway up the wall that's why i thought she ripped it out like art what the hell um okay there's that dog mama a burnt stick that smells like something yeah there's dog and dog or cat all solo or whatever

it is so pet mama pet mama incense mama i think yeah is so colorado as well yeah and not very much stuff not a not a um not a lot of stuff not fire safe so that's not very colorado right not very outdoors but see we have we can see some clothes yeah is that a hamper i think even looking at these clothes this kind of like i see a lot of jackets the person's hanging on the door clothes, this kind of like purse. I see a lot of jackets. The purse that's hanging on the door, this like tribal kind of Native American pattern is again very Colorado to me. I think you're leaning Colorado. You are hyper focused on Colorado because you used to live there. It's trauma speaking. You're right.

I am thinking this could easily, this could just as easily be Seattle. Or Portland. Yeah. Yes. just as easily be Seattle or Portland. Yeah. Yes. I don't think this is Portland. I'm like, you're from Portland. That's the only, I'm from Portland.

That's the only place that I know really other than here. And it doesn't seem very Portland to me. So I'm, I'm going on right back to Colorado. I think that was right. I'm just going to draft off of you guys and say, Colorado, I can't even think of the names of other States that they're, none of them are coming to mind. I'm just going to draft off of you guys and say Colorado. I can't even think of the names of other states.

None of them are coming to mind. I'm going to go complete moonshot. I'm going to say this is Utah. This is Dubai. I'm going to say this is fucking... Wait, because we are international. This could be a 600-man in Dubai. Don't forget about that.

This is a very American bedroom. Wait, I want to zoom in on the bag underneath. Yeah, what does the bag say? Omnilux? Oh, you're right, you're right, you're right. Let's see. Yes, it says Omnilux. Colorado underneath.

It says Omnilux, Colorado. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Is it really? Yes, we got her. Really? Folks, we got her. She is in Colorado. Okay, okay. ding, ding. Really? Yes, we got her. Folks, we got her. She is in Colorado. Osama bin Laden has been killed.

Wait, zoom back out into the window. There is an active smoke alarm there. Yeah, I saw the active smoke alarm. So there is a smoke alarm. It's the most Colorado thing to have is a smoke alarm it's the most colorado thing to have a backup smoke detector in case your one dies you can just immediately put it back in no that's from a different room honey that's definitely a different room

yeah double fire safe wait i want to zoom in on the the things above the kitchen shelf okay let's see let's see let's see, let's see, let's see. So there's some ceramic mushroom wall art above the sink. This is such a woman apartment. I'm seeing, I'm getting lesbian type. I'm getting lesbian vibes from this. Oh yeah, because we have to speculate

about their sexuality. I'm going to go not lesbian, but I don't really i'm not confident in my now that i know colorado i've known colorado lesbians and they're not the most like hippie nature girl when they're nature girl it's like a sport they're like we're going to rei and we have seven carabiners and linda better bring her fucking gorp and like stuff like that they're not this kind of you know kind of joni mitchell like soft palette you know so this is like this person's dating a bob dylan type guy yeah or a jew a young jewish man it's colorado i'm not sure about that but

i i'm happy to say just from this bedroom, cisgendered female, I'm going to say Boulder or outside of Denver, and I'm going to say that she is straight. Can I get a zoom on the art above the bed real quick? Which seems to be in the same school. Kind of surrealist, chic girl art. I'm getting I am getting a bit of a lesbian vibe from this I mean that dog is

there is a dog with a halo is lesbian and also the artwork in the center is kind of an old woman who looks like she's born of the mountains watching a young girl from behind yes it's gaia which is a fellow lesbian i know that's gaia so are you saying lesbian that's

are you voting lesbian i'm not i'm not sure yet i need to see the fridge but i need to see the i feel like i feel like the bedroom is all we need we got everything we needed out of the bedroom let's go to the fridge and we have to also speculate about their age right yes oh the fridge oh i forgot okay we get to see the fridge all right i'm going to say on the fridge that i'm going to say this is maybe early i'm gonna say right off the bat this is the healthiest most beautiful fridge we've ever seen on this show pasture-raised eggs the two cartons of eggs the oatly so pasture raised eggs the two cartons of eggs the oatly two double oatly full fat can we go any closer on those sausages double eggs are those uh those are faux meat sausages right i believe so i believe so those are really good there's no they actually taste like a real sausage

no other meat none of the vegetables are rotting none of the vegetables are rotting yes that's so much asparagus wait zoom in on the asparagus real quick it's a lot that's so much okay roommates obviously this is a proudly i feel that this photo was taken in pride absolutely like in the bedroom maybe you you you take it in a in a sort of candor you go i'm just disclosing this is my bathroom, or my bedroom. The fridge is well-stocked, clean. Nothing is rotting. I feel this photo is taking pride.

Look at the lemon. The lemon is the Memoromori, or whatever it's called. Memento Mori. Yeah. This beautiful renaissance painting of a fridge it's to remind you that death is coming

for all of us I feel the goddess dressing the Annie's goddess dressing huge tell hugely familiar sight look at it drip down the side Huge tell. Wait. Hugely familiar sight. What does that say? Look at it drip down the side of that bottle there. Oh, that is.

Oh, yeah. Bubby's pickle. Bubby's spicy pickles. Yeah. We have a bag of loose almonds in the fridge. Almonds in the fridge is psychotic to me. That means you're having them for dessert or something. No, that means you have an eating disorder.

You have almonds in your fridge. Because you're pretending that's a real meal. You like ice cream she's a queen i i i'm only feeling more secure in my initial straight reaction woman straight woman 24 25 years old oh i'm 24 25 i don't know how old anyone is that's gonna be very hard i say early 30s yeah i'm gonna i'm gonna go with you on that thing i think it's a little bit older i think the fridge is a little bit more mature than a young um boulder right or denver rights fridge would be can I explain to you why you are incorrect because one if this this is a roommate fridge okay this is how you think that's the double a the two eggs who has who has two cartons of oat milk right I feel like it's a backup card because if you're if you and your roommate drink the same

exact kind of milk you're not like unless you fucking hate them you're not double stalking the same kind of that's actually a point in favor of this being seattle honestly because they're double no because because like if one of them gets regular milk the other one will be like oh i didn't this is a cruelty free fridge linda don't bring dairy no it's fine if you get that can you just um let me know next time before you buy it yeah you know something like that i think older i think older just because it's just getting that feeling from it I can't really clock it but we do have a hint from this amazing cisgendered woman.

Which I'm saying in full confidence. What color is her hair? What kind of car do you drive? Brown Honda CRV. That's also, we already know Colorado but brown haired women love living in Colorado. Brown haired women do be living in Colorado. Honda CR crv what's a honda crv

even look like that's a mom car is it a mom car okay that's also older that's also gonna that is that does honestly i'm changing my whole game up i'm gonna go but i'm not gonna go up to your level i'm gonna go 27 28 i'm gonna go 28 okay you need you need to pick a number i need to pick a number we should write like for age yeah i'll say 31 i'm going boulder colorado 28 years old sis oh and do you have to say the city or can you i want to say okay i mean i know i'm gonna say say Boulder, Colorado as well. It's so Boulder to me just from the way the apartment looks. I'll say Boulder, Colorado, cisgendered female who is heterosexual. And I will say, I want to say 31.2.

I'll say 30 to undercut theta. I'll say 30. Okay. Price is right rules. Yes. $1 below. has it's not a kind of theta I'll say 30 okay prices right rules yes one dollar below I will also I will get behind Boulder Colorado even though I don't exactly know what that means okay all right let's get the reveal here 43 boulder boulder 43 fucking got it oh she looks good too allison hello she's tearing cute dog and look at her creature though the dog would it was uh that was a giveaway this is exactly

the kind of woman i had in my mind i'm not even i i've known so many of these women i i for real was like i forgot about the dog I would have gone older if I knew about the dog we didn't know if it was a dog or a cat we didn't really know if we knew the exact thing if only we had known if only we had known so how do those points go out

so Hessa won for bolder Hessa won for cis female Hessa won for hetero not won for age none one for cis female. Hessa, one for hetero. Not one for age. None of us got age. Theta, you got gender, sexuality, and location correct. I got gender, sexuality, location. Well, Theta, you technically got the age correct. Or closer.

No, no. I got closer. But that doesn't count as a point, right? You have to guess the... I guess... I think we can give Theta a point. Because, I mean, even if we don't... Let's just say whoever's the closest to H.

Because it can be hard to get the exact number correct. I'll take the point, graciously. Theta leading the pack. There, thank you. It'll all be taken away. Snatched away. Okay. All right, this is Sun.

Submission two. Let's see it. let's clock it pillowcase yeah yeah it's kind of more like we have creepy vintage baby than it is outdoor girl to me yeah yeah i mean and this is a prideful bedroom photo this person, it should be. I mean, look at those scary faces. Oh, look, they have a mobile. I think they might be an infant. That's a point for lesbian, for sure.

Or at least trans, if not lesbian. They have baby's breath, dried flower suspended upside down over the window they have a a craw what is that like uh what do you call that fucking bead thing a rosary whip around rosary this kind of like freak folk art above the bed this like yeah what does that say like a goat man perform songs for wax cylinder i'm really seeing lesbian here as well with the freak folk with it of it all and like the weird

kind of the baby the baby niche the baby there are multiple pictures because i bet there's going to be guitar in one of them they just look she just sent us one. Yoga mat on floor. Zoom in on the books. Yoga mat on floor under the bed. Sewing machine. Where's the sewing machine? On the desk. Yeah, mid-right.

Mid-far right. Just sew costumes for the show. Wait, this might be a gay guy. This might be the gayest guy of all time. I don't think it's a gay guy. Look at the books. Check the books. We only have one spine. We got one spine.

Sleep mask. I don't think it's a guy. Sleep mask. Sleep mask with this nose component built into it which i've never seen before oh i thought you meant that was the name of the book then you recognize the spine i was like wait i can't make out the title of the book they can't make out the title i know turned all the books away from us the weird black airpods oh he's so lesbian to me the book is called

lesbians love like accessorizing they love having like weird personalized like ipods and iphones and giant androids yeah yeah you know all of this not the standard yes i think that book is celine siama could very well be celine siama wrote wrote a book. Wait, go. No, I was just, I made that up. She's a lesbian. She's a huge lesbian. Is she a lesbian? Really? Celine Sciamma.

She's the biggest lesbian around. I mean, in the sense of being one of the worst. Oh, mask. Mask. COVID mask. Lesbian. They them. Down.

They them. They them. The mask makes it they it lesbian for sure. Could be they them. Now I'm leaning they them. I'm going they them with that as well. On the basis of the mask.

The mask changes everything. The mask changes. And now that I'm seeing the sewing machine, the mask puts everything into a totally different light. I do believe that the sewing machine, the mask puts everything into a totally different light. I do believe that the rosary is very...

Also, okay, sorry. Even with this rose gold MacBook under the table, that's again another variant. That might just be the lighting. I think it might just be a regular MacBook. I think it's rose gold. i think it's rose gold i think it's behind it some other weird silver ass thing is right behind it do you think this is a they them named rose gold it's probably engraved on the back of that fucking

laptop have we thought about that after the laptop color if we imagine such a world where something such as that wait let's zoom in on the mirror you can spot it there's just another mirror what is it but there's another mirror yeah this person is very them person is very haunted to me like the mirrors facing mirrors the weird dried flowers the upside down flower the inverted flower what's that thing yeah what's that above the prism on the windowsill it's like so do you think this is new york i think this is new york do you think this is new york this could be new york i'm also thinking it could be philly could be uh boston rosary is making me leave boston honestly really uh i don't know i'm i i used to live in boston i feel like i know uh i don't know i feel like i'm getting a vibe i'm seeing pacific northwest again wait

fatal would you want me to check check the outlet just to make sure that we're this is american outlet that's good call good call it looks yes this is a extremely american outlet too much shit plugged in the 19 phone chargers plugged into this yeah yeah yeah um i i think from the culture of it and from the space of the room i'm seeing college town like in the pacific northwest because this person does seem younger to me the freak folk kind of centaur transcentaur artwork is very um pacific i'm gonna say like spokane washington evergreen university oh wow if you're right about that i you're cheating. I swear to God I'm not cheating.

I will not believe if you get that right. Hey, what can I say? I'm also going to say Spokane, Washington, Evergreen. I think this is a young person based on it being a twin bed. Yeah, for sure. It looks like a twin bed, small room. I mean, they're clearly a very clean and well put together person. But I agree. Actually, and that mean, they're clearly a very clean and well put together person. But I agree. Actually, and that, the fact that it's very clean,

I know there are clean people in New York, but that seems to be like not really a New York thing. The other thing making me not think New York is the amount of like thrifted items, which you do have a very cute room. But like people in New York City are not doing, like I said at the last exhibition, these like ornateate amber glass lamps. That's like you're thrifting on the weekends with your D-Lays. Right, and it's city where there's nothing to do. And you have a car, maybe.

Also, wait. The fact that the sleep mask... Let's zoom in on the sleep mask real quick. The fact that it is so... It looks like it was molded to a person's face. Yeah. Makes me feel like it might be a big city, you know? Because I feel like this person might have had a specially made sleep mask. No, it's just like, it's like lesbianism. Like, they're like personalized consumer.

Instagram. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. See, I always think I'm so smart when I come up with something and do we have what do we get oh their fridge now yeah right now we're looking at a now we have a fridge here portals here now we got all right let's stop let's start in the top left all right all right right away butter okay cupcake okay this is so this is so trans forest party to me the cupcakes cupcakes this is they this is very they yeah putting the cupcakes in a container works at

a restaurant clearly if they have so many of those containers no but because it's like Jackson Jackson's Felithin X has a nut allergy or something like oh yeah and there's a fucking look they've got look at this little sort of mason jar thing it's like olives or something there I think those are brandy cherries go to the left

I think these are brandy cherries or olives or something but okay also Theta the hand that Ben controls is like three inches to the right. The cruiser's a little off. Of whatever you're pointing. Of whatever, yeah. Also, it makes me think that they work in a kitchen, because look at all of these stocked sauces in the back.

That's what I just said. You're copying me. Oh, I'm sorry. You're copying me. But that's also, just said in the back oh you're copying me but that's also i might say trans guy because trans men love being like i'm well the bedroom we're gonna get the better i'm going right down the middle i'm going right down the middle they them for sure right wait zoom in this is the real the meat we got a label on the meat but this is what's gonna unlock everything i think it's uh it's at a bad angle dude it's capicola it's capicola or soppressata maybe a pepperoni

but it's one i think it's one piece of capicola that is in a container the arugula salad they really yeah they they do seem maybe they work in a kitchen. They have everything sort of tubbed up. Yes. They're extremely tubbed up individuals. They are afraid that Gordon Ramsay, they have something called gender spin in their crisping drawer. Go over to gender spin.

Wow. What the? Gender spin. points right there they uh blackberries blackberries are open because they were picking up local from oh wait um local freeway i'm looking up the x-ray this is how this is how this is my meta kentucky says kentucky on the label no way this person lives in kentucky it says kentucky on the label which makes me maybe makes me think there's some stuff going on in like appalachia that the southern appalachia that i just don't know about i think you're just very uh louisville i'm gonna say louisville they also have a double egg

also double i'm saying louisville for this nobody got over the great egg the great egg shortage of like whatever two months ago i feel yes yes yes no one really got over the egg shortage or something right they're just like piling up they're warning we never left it's the uh i'm ready for the i'm ready for the hint and also okay i'm gonna say that looks like a chauncey like a chanamasella or like a chickpea thing what is in this uh red tub in the back yeah yeah for sure the red tub for sure i mean if you're putting but that throws everything that we've said previously into question if you are because if you are putting uh if you're putting all takeout into these tupperware containers yeah it might mean that your mom is just very depressed and buys

Tupperware from a door-to-door Tupperware salesperson. Right. And gave you a bunch of it. When you left... Okay, just they them. Give us your own hint. I truly love York.

Bisexual, they them, Louisville, Kentucky. That's... That's a good guess i think uh 20 29 i'm gonna go younger i'm thinking like 24 i think they them bisexual as well yeah i second all kind of more thinking like i don't know if you said louisville kentucky i said louisville yeah on the base of the eggs i'm just on the on the basis i googled what's the biggest city in kentucky and i got right right but i feel like the question is what's the biggest like gay queer hub in the larger like southern appalachia area i think maybe it could be like ashville or something because you have like city no kansas

city is like midwest i'm thinking more like i don't know i don't know geography the carolinas tennessee kentucky not west virginia cooperstown could Virginia Cooperstown could be Cooperstown New York that's where the baseball hall of fame is I'm going to say Asheville because Asheville has this crazy freak folk like thrifty vibe to it I'm going to say Asheville

if you get that right I'm going to lose my fucking mind I'm going to say 22 year old 24 year old they them bisexual uh ashville uh north carolina 22 year old you said 24 i'm gonna go 24 oh 24 okay okay all right i will also say they them bisexual i'll say portland oregon i don't even know i don't know where anything is so i'll go with the only thing i know, Portland, Oregon. It could also be Philly. Oh, stop. And then I'm going to say 26.

I'm just going to go with 26. Let's get the reveal here. Oh my god. No way. I was closest in place, by the way. What? That's a gay man's award by that i'm totally floored you know what gets it away as gay is the sewing machine the sewing machine exactly

no see we they don't we let ben we let ben steer us wrong because that room does not seem even like a faggot's room. It seems like a fucking... That's a point for me. Now that I know this person isn't a lesbian, I'm like, oh, this is like a creepy lesbian baby's room. That's what it looked like to me. Because you hate lesbians. You just are scared

of them. Every lesbian's room is a creepy lesbian baby room. Well, yes. No, we were... The only thing that was vaguely right is South, American South.

I got the age closest. Oh, what was your age guess? 29. Okay, so Hessa got the age closest. None of us got gender or sexuality right. Also, gay guys love... What is the closest thing to gay, male, trans woman, lesbian?

Clock it. Okay, can we go back? Can we go back and look at the bedroom, please? I just want hindsight. Imagine a gay man being in here. It's so unnerving to me. This is how you're starting putting it together it's like so unnerving to me now you're sort of putting it together and it is

unnerving you're going what this is someone who killed his aunt his rich aunt and got obtained her fortune this is all just a little troubling to me the purple yoga mat under the bed neatly under the bed

the neatness maybe the neatness should have given it away I think that this man is living he's living his best life okay the rosary is a token from his dead aunt

who gave him the money to live in this place because he's really done a job the aunt who fell down a giant staircase in her house that was covered in dog dish soap after he was there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Stepped on a roller skate and fell down the stairs of her... Period. Her huge spiral staircase in the foyer.

It's so weird. He's got a mobile. He's got a mobile over the bed you have to imagine him having gay sex in his bed with the mobile i'm trying i'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt but the mobile is really to be kidding me about that i'm sorry zoom in on the thing next to the curtain above the mirror this like this this this I feel like we brushed right past that. That's a flower. I think that's another flower thing.

I believe those are a flower or a grass known as cattails that are dried and hung upside down. I think that's something not of this earth. Look at this frilly silver mirror. I really don't understand.

You know, I don't understand gay. It looks like a polished serving tray. It doesn't even look like a fucking mirror. Literally, his aunt who died who fell down those stairs. Polished that serving tray. I want to be able to see

myself in that serving tray. I want to be able to see my reflection in it. He served her the poison milk on that. The classic Notorious. They put a light bulb in the glass. Danny, look at that.

The menacing handhold. This looks like a nice guy. I'm going to be honest. Danny's the first one in where I have been completely shocked by the reveal.

I've been shocked every single time. If I'm being real, I am so bad at this. Okay, well, also but also, I genuinely actually love Bjork should have, along with the sewing machine sent us in the sort of gay direction

right because he's talking about standing he's like I said stand I genuinely actually genuinely and actually sorry it's so much funnier he said I truly actually love truly actually that's how I technically act

it's how gay men it's how gay men speak for sure truly actually you're calling me gay man truly actually and there's a thing this is like again we should have talked this god damn it we're so but it's like the the subtext here which that other people claim to but don't yes but actually don't. And it's also, it's an indictment of other people. Yeah. And it's also that I'm not like the other girls, you know,

I love the orc more than anyone else. Yes. Good thing in common, God, we're fools, fools, fools, and marks.

Luckily we can. David Mamet says. David, David Mamet, anything, anything David Mamet says. David Mamet. Anything David Mamet says, I'm right there. I agree. Okay. Anything he says, no matter what it is.

He's a god. I mean, a god amongst men. And call me his hen. Okay. I'm clucking and clucking. You would have gotten submission two. All right. Submission three. I'm ready. and clucking. Submission two. Submission three. I'm ready. Wait, so we have to allocate points.

I think we did. I think we did. I'm going to go for age because she gets oldest. I don't want to get into what's closest, what's gay faggot closest to. No, we can't. I was joking about that. Okay.

Let's pull up a map real quick. I was joking about that. I feel like unless... Let's pull up a map real quick. I don't know where Tennessee and Kentucky are. The question is what's closer to Tennessee? Lexington or Asheville? Louisville. Not Lexington.

I think Louisville will be closer. It could be anything truly i cannot even with a gun to my head 50 50 chance i should i should i pull up i will look at the map right now one second yeah look i thought that's what you were doing no i was just i was thinking about doing it look at look at how high up at the cuffs are on his pants too i'm just looking at the picture right now um louisville oh no you didn't guess you sorry you guessed louisville right how so this is one of our beautiful listeners i always get louisville and lexington confused

you i do too honestly i also do you are marginally closer but you closer. And so you get a point. And so you get a point. I really don't like this. This shit talker is in the lead. Fuck you. Submission three. Hey, guess what? Oh, this is going to be a good one.

Oh, okay. The first transgender. Trinkets. Too many trinkets. I cannot disagree at all okay I'm sorry is this Peter Griffin is this Peter Griffin in a dress on stage with a spotlight on it

that is a monitor that is like a specialized monitor meant for some special thing that's a trans this is a trans that's like a monitor you buy on TikTok, I think. Oh my god.

This wall-length dresser desk thing with all of these trinkets. Trinket feels... There is nothing to dissuade me here. Tums. Tums. Tums. Tums on the counter. Tums on the counter. Empty tums.

Tums. Oh, Lord. The books are obscured. We haven't gotten any book hints. Weed on a chair. Five bananas on a are obscured for the most part. We haven't gotten any book hints. We have posters here. Weed on a chair.

Five bananas on a paper plate. I keep my bananas I like to keep my bananas close to me. Five bananas on a paper plate is one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen in my entire life. What is on this chair? This is a weed set up on the chair. I think that weed set up on the chair.

Yeah, I think that's like rolling papers. A hat. This is a sort of strange little hat. What do you make of that hat? I don't know. That hat could be, I'm guessing, for a local art gallery or for like, I don't know, the movie Scanners by David Cronenberg. It's like a special custom made hat.

Clothes we have here spilling out. Clothes spilling out. Now this is, do you think this is a trans lesbian? Trans lesbian? Let's, I'm gonna answer that question with a request to Ben. Ben, can you zoom in on the middle shelf that's open a little bit?

Of the clothes. Can you zoom in on that? I'm as zoomed as I can get. So that's a parrot. bit of the, can you zoom in on that? I'm as I'm zoomed as I can get. That's a, that's a parrot. That's a, that's a puppet. What? Some kind of,

I think that's a puppet. I think it's a ripped. You think it's a puppet? Don't get me wrong. Look at the rest of this room. Don't get me wrong. Don't get me wrong. This person,

1000% has a puppet in their room i don't think that i don't think that's a puppet though i think that's just i think you're right i think i got ahead of myself i think i got i'm so sorry you're getting a little excited i think you intuited the presence of puppets in this household what is this correctly is this poster anything to you guys does it mean anything to you it looks like Hebrew no it says take on road what the fuck

it's art you know it's that kind of art you know this is not more like freaky black and white art yeah sorry Jewish we know that now rice maker on the top left corner here on that floating shelf

that's a fucking rice cooker and there's also this like martini shaker yeah yeah the liquor slash rice cabinet let's scan the room real quick

this is to me the kind of trans trans girl who who hates her roommates yes exactly exactly everything in there maybe for good reason you know and we i'm gonna assume for good reason okay this what i'm realizing she had to take the photos but there's a phone on the on the desk so she has two phones. Partner. Partner. Oh, it's so partner. It's so partner. Yes. It is so partner. It's giving partner.

Yeah. Trans lesbian. That's dreadful. Is that more mushroom shit fucking on the wall? There's a mushroom poster over here. More mushroom. Mushroom poster. But like, but like not, not.

I mean. Okay. This is the thing. Like cis girls will have. Cis girls will have like a ceramic mushroom mold trans women will have like an anatomical typography of mushrooms

ripped from the encyclopedia yes and the band poster peeling off the wall get some tape on that baby get some tape on that bottom left corner sweetie tell on the tell on the door i mean i feel like i feel like the bedroom is more evidence of hated roommates

more evidence of hated roommates it's sconce that's a weird sconce let's that's a very odd place for a sconce especially one that's turned off map map i believe this is a map of something below this column okay yeah i'm gonna say the wrong place confused me there i'm gonna say transgender lesbian wait let's we gotta zoom in on the upper left corner because i think there's a that might be a puppet oh my god i'm so sorry i did not even look at this one. There's a huge coup de grace right here. Oh, good lord. I mean, this is... New damning evidence has hit the community.

Okay, this is insane. I think this is a mirror image. I think one of these images is mirrored. To try and confuse us. What the fuck? There's another phone? Is that another phone on the bed? It's like a Nintendo DS,s i believe oh no that's a that's a uh a steam deck okay using using the chair using using one of your that's what jen has

using one of your seven chairs as a modular nightstand is very disturbing to me uh but it seems like i think hey I think it's fine to do that. I think it's totally normal. It's their bedroom. They can do whatever they want. I think it's totally... What'd you say? Age. Again, I'm gonna go younger. 22.

Wait, zoom in. Posters above the bed. That's gonna be huge. Prison-style bed. Is that a dildo on the wall? This is come on what where that's not a dildo no that's a that's a that's a nightlight like a light okay okay but same same same technology yes i believe it's a suction same suction that's a picture of the band jet i believe who's in the song are You Gonna Be My Girl? That must be their favorite band. Okay. All right.

Let's clock the fridge. Wow. Okay, mini fridge. I'm going to say I believe. Oh, my God. Trans lesbian. Trans lesbian. So there's Jam.

Is that a snail? Is that a huge snail? A pet snail.'s... Is that a snail? Is that a huge snail? Is that a huge snail? I think it's a bag clip to keep it. Yeah, wouldn't want to let something... Wouldn't want to let the air in to something in this fridge. Soy sauce.

Holy fucking fuck. Hot sauces. Something else. Mm-hmm. It's screaming queer collective soy sauce hot sauces something else it's screaming queer collective wherein everyone wants to fucking kill each other yeah I don't know this isn't giving roommates I know it is giving

it's giving roommates who don't want to keep anything in the fridge because they're afraid that the other roommates will steal it I'm seeing very indoor transgender lesbian who's under 25 from that profile i am again gonna guess somewhere in the pacific northwest this doesn't seem like new york to me um i said is this a college dormitory is there is there any chance that this is a college the shelving the shelving here makes me think dormitory you're is there any chance that this is a college the shelving the shelving here makes me think dormitory you're right because dorms are always built with this like

you know the radiator i'm gonna guess it's an older building for sure the radiator yeah um this really complicates things let's get to the hint the hint might help us a lot here yeah how many car accidents have you been in and what's your drug of choice one it was very this really complicates things. Let's get to the hint. The hint might help us a lot here. How many car accidents have you been in and what's your drug of choice? One, it was very tame. Alcohol, if it counts. If not, then poppers. Is that gay? Are we going to fuck this up? No, because so many, like...

I'm going to say... Paul... Wow. The poppers is really throwing me off. All I'm sure about right now is that this is a young person. Alcohol, if that counts, if that counts, feels very

servile, like very, very low status young person. They don't understand that alcohol is a drug yet. Low status young person. Low status. They're an untouchable in the hierarchy we should guess their uh their position in the caste system yeah in the caste system we should hindu caste

and what they will reincarnate as low status bottom yeah reincarnate as a dog i'm guessing right now okay so the poppers thing really throws me off because are transgender lesbians using poppers like that yeah maybe if they're getting pegged and fucked and you know getting their balls whipped or whatever right and this person does they're young this person does seem a little freaky from the bedroom if they're young and like because here's what this answer is giving me this answer is giving me i've tried one drug and it's poppers and i it's my favorite yeah i tried weed i hated it yes um i drink a lot and i also just tried poppers very recently and they're great and they didn't give

me headache because i did them real quick and they uh you know they know i think you're spot on with the college thing because again the built-in shelving yeah the same like kind of like same manufacturing for the bed frame here yeah seems like college to me the question on location is then what kind of go back to the bedroom what kind of college does this person go to like where do the trans lesbians go to college i am feeling this is a bigger dorm room this is not a city college this is uh but it's an old building so i'm thinking storied campus you know something but where like what what what is this kind of person studying like where are they going to school like is this person like because they clearly have very niche interests you know um

evergreen i think evergreen is a really good guess yeah i could see evergreen yeah evergreen is a really good guess. Yeah. I could see Evergreen. Yeah. Evergreen is a good, that's very good guess. Yeah. Okay. No, this person is being, this person is getting like a smiley face instead of an A. They're kidding.

It's like so like. Although, or Hampshire. They would go, my favorite drug is heroin. I love heroin. Yeah. Because it is.

Yeah. It is way more heroin, opioid. I think that might switch it up because what about what's on the east coast because there's so many hampshire hampshire college emerson has to be with emerson but that's in boston no emerson dorms emerson is a city college the dorms are very small so this is like an enclave like college like this is a western mass i'm guessing either western mass maybe vermont what's in vermont

what's in vermont definitely be vermont it could be very very it could be vm no but it's not bennington bennington bennington college oh it could be bennington i'm gonna go with hampshire i think it's hampshire college i don't know about hampshire college you know what because i wrong guess wait let me let me search my mind your college real quick trans lesbian theta let me search my i'm searching my mind bard is another one of these like weird little upstate like art schools i've been to hampshire college and i don't think this is it. I think I would have clocked the dorm. Let's lock it in. Let's lock it in. Okay, 22.

Translesbian 21, Hampshire College. Okay, Hessa? I'm going to say what's the Vermont one, Ben? There's Bennington, but Bennington's more like literary, I think. They're like Bret Easton Ellis on there and stuff. It's more

like writing and reading, and the bedroom's not so writing and reading to me. I'm guessing... You know what? I'm gonna guess... I'm gonna say 22 transgender... I'm gonna guess... No,'m going to guess It's giving State school I'm guessing you Amherst

I'm going to guess Amherst Amherst Massachusetts I'm going to say 22 Transgender lesbian New York Bard College Ready Ready Transgender, lesbian, New York. Fucking god damn it.

Oh my god. Bisexual, non-binary is crazy. Okay. Wow. Bard College. Did somebody guess Bard? I guessed Bard. Ben guessed Bard. Ben blocked it instantly. Point for Ben and point for...

Did you guess 22? I did 22 as well. I got the gender and sexuality wrong. Theta, you did 21. No points there, sadly. Honestly, Sam, thank you for including the college. Expanding our horizons. I guess 19.

I guess 19. Yeah, thank you for expanding your horizons, sweetie. Sorry for misgendering you a hundred times. That's the funny thing about this game. We didn't know. We had no clue. Well, I do think that we can

forecast something like a full gender transition in the future on the basement of the room. Sam? I know, Sam, that that might make you be a little uncomfortable, but, you know, there's many years ahead of you. So I believe that that point can come to me at any time, you know, in the next 10 years.

Yeah. This flag is cracking me the fuck up. This is the Bicycle of Mindbinding flag, I believe. You're just, on our screen, it's just you're circling the name sam oh sorry sorry i'll fix that no natalia fucking killed it dude um follow follow follow them on twitter stummy squabble find them i'm sure that i'm sure their twitter is iconic i'm sure they're just tweeting a lot of amazing things about bart um all right last one this is where we can last submission i don't want to get fucking i don't want to get the

gender wrong again i i'm so frustrated it's fine people know i mean no no no but it's like uh it's we should know we should personal thing i mean the world the world would fall apart if we if we didn't know. It's true. We really have to know. Alright, the next one here. If anyone has to know, it's us. If not, I do. Okay.

Okay. Alright. This is going to take two hours to just look at everything. This is hard. This is like a really hard one. Because I'm shaking. My confidence is shaking up at that last joke.

This is a really hard one to you? No, no, my confidence is shaking. That's a love exposure poster, Theta. Tell me what that means. Tell me what that means. That means this is a trans woman. There's a blah exposure poster, Theta. Tell me what that means. Tell me what that means. That means this is a trans woman. There's a blah.

We thought we were sure the last one was a trans woman. No, I was not that sure. I was not this sure. This, I am completely... I've never been more sure. The left most poster is some niche movie. Love Exposure. A Sion Sono.

A great movie. Fantastic movie movie made by a molester i think he molested somebody i love that okay all right he's okay but it's a great movie what do you make of that guy world tour olivia rodrigo right i think i think the the love exposure poster no one on the planet besides a trans woman would have a love exposure poster in their room and tragedy of macbeth i hope that poster was free also that poster sucks dude that's a bad poster and my trauma lunch trap is funny to me because didn't that just come out like two years ago yeah trap they're a strong indicator of

trans women Monrovia, Indiana Frederick Wiseman I was just talking over everyone Frederick Wiseman I know whose room this is and I'm not kidding it's Hesse's room no I'm not kidding I know whose room this is. And I'm not kidding. It's Hess's room?

No, I'm not kidding. I know whose room this is. I know the person who sent this in. I'm dead serious. I know who sent this in. Oh my, wait, for real? Yes, for real. I cannot.

Oh my lord. She kept it to herself. You could have swept. My god, where is your fighting spirit of the Saboteur that you came in with? I could have come in. I was just so excited. I was so happy that I knew. Oh, my God.

I'm sorry. This is so distressing to me as a clean freak. The amount of boxes on the floor, the way you can't see the floor. No wonder you need the VR headset because you want to pretend you're in a clean room. My God. You got to be careful with that thing. You start walking around with the headset on my god the amount of devices is the game game they like game they like game they like movie that's you that's trance i guess the giant tv in this tiny bedroom.

With the... Is that a gaming-ass shit on top of it? What dimension is this TV even... I've never seen a TV this long before. Is that, like, warped by the... That's crazy. That's a huge... That's like a Lawrence of Arabia special edition TV.

This is like IMAX. It's like a wraparound TV. It's insane. Do you think this is lesbian? I mean, Hesse, you can't weigh in because you know the person. Anya Taylor-Joy. Anya Taylor-Joy.

Legends are obsessed with her. With this Anya Taylor-Joy. Oh my god. I'm sorry. I mean, look, we all love I love everyone. I support everyone. This room, just for me personally, is disturbing. But you clearly

love it. Well, at least there's an air purifier there in the background doing good work. Another device. Another device. Another device. Its vents are totally blocked off. This looks like a Chinatown tchotchke shop. The amount of

things. There's a lot of little kitchen keychains. Are you selling these? Are you selling these? I feel like I'm in Hokkaido. Ah, born dreadfully on fire. Okay, trans lesbian. Let's lock that in. Crimes of the future, very trans.

Look, the fridge is... That's a good fridge. The fridge is in New York? Do you think it's in New York? No, the fridge is too big. Transgender individuals do not have fridges this big in New York City. I should have fucking lied, dude. I should have lied.

The spray butter is disturbing to me immediately i'm very sure okay of course you have to zone in on the one thing sorry i found it i found it kibimeo this person clearly loves what is the jug is that like orange juice this is a giant jug of almond milk, I believe. That's horse cum. They're breeding horses. This must be in a horse pasture, a plains state. This is in horse territory. The Great Plains. I kind of feel like this person's bedroom,

people always talk about how the bedroom is their sanctuary and this is where they can be themselves and be at ease. The discrepancy between the bedroom and the fridge we've never seen a better kind of example of bedroom being the sanctuary because they clearly want to go freaky like tchotchke everywhere but they have enough respect for the home to not make it are they sharing do you think this if this is if this is who i think it is i'm gonna be so happy i'm gonna be so barbecue sauce lots of sauces i mean pretty standard fridge i'd say the one thing the eggs here are in their own carton it seems so ordered in the fridge i do not get there's a possibility that they live with someone else and they never bought a grocery in their life that all they spent all their money on anything every item every item in this fridge besides the

spray butter is their roommates and they just walk by spray butter in their mouth walking towards the grocery store today is going to be the day where i buy groceries and then you turn and there's the stuffed animal store yeah there's an agonized choice when they come home but their arms full of toys so the fridge is the fridge is baffling i don't know the fridge i don't think this is i don't think they're participant in this fridge i think this is a kind of funny loophole yeah there's a photo of the fridge yeah everyone is if you're if you're in a home with a fridge i believe you're implicitly a participant i'm just i'm imagining this transgender tachiki lesbian living with like the most normal like lindsey girl she's like so afraid

of her yeah i've done it and i literally they can i had a uh group meeting with my roommates one time because they thought that my uh estrogen was heroin you have to stop doing that we see the needles in your room this girl has had the same exact conversation with all the like graphic design girlies she's living with um how old do you think the city i don't know i'm gonna go younger as well i'm gonna say 20 i'm gonna say 22 again 20 i'm gonna say 22 wow i'm gonna say 24 i to say 22. Wow. I'm going to say 24. I don't know why. I feel like trans girls are regressed in some weird way.

I'm going to say 24. I'm going to say 31. 31? Yeah. Based on your intuition, your guess? So do you know this person? Do you not know this person? I think I might know.

I'm not sure yet. I'm not sure yet. Well, I mean, if you're not entirely sure, get in on the guessing for sure. But you don't want to fluff it up. If you're not entirely sure, I'm going to say trans lesbian 31 lives in... The place I have no... I mean, all the windows are covered. We can't look outside.

I don't remember. I have no idea where they are. No idea where they are. It can't look outside. I don't remember. I have no idea where they are. No idea where they are. It's not New York, that's for sure. All right, let's get the hint here. Maybe Denver. Oh, sorry, let's get the hint. Oh!

Don't look. Oh, fuck. Did you see that? No one saw it. Okay, perfect. I didn't pick it up. What's your drug of choice? What is this? Deval Pro-x sodium is that is that a thing to say does anyone know what that is

no let's just move on so i'm gonna based on what what i am what was it i have no guess about where they are um but they're i think there are 24 trans uh lesbian and let's say that they live why not they live in portland orga just like all my other guesses i'm guessing denver colorado trans lesbian 34 31 years old okay i'm gonna actually change my location i'm gonna say i'm gonna say that they live in minneapolis there you go i can see that i could see mid-sized city in the in the midwest for sure so i looked up uh dival pro-x sodium and i'm assuming this person doesn't mind if i say what they're treated for because they're being so forthcoming with their medication um it treats a various amount of things epilepsy bipolar disorder

and migraines okay person probably has all three no i'm just kidding um period i will say 22 period i will say i will i'll stay on the transgender lesbian and i think that you're right i'll say like minneapolis is a good one i don't want to steal yours i'll say say you know what i'll say saint paul about that okay bitch move um the sister city exactly i know she's in the sister city all right let's go to the next period for her reveal emmy 22 maryland suburbs emmy it's exactly who i thought it was i can't believe i said 31 i got the decade exactly wrong so it is the person you guessed it is the person i thought you do know this person yes this person has been on our podcast before what the hell when this was a contestant in our uh in hessa's podcast twitter hell girl walking i mean thank you for thank you for sending in your room i instantly knew it was yours based on the uh love exposure poster

i see trap we all get a point for transgender let's be all good for transgender lesbian so love exposure poster and the trap poster. We all get a point for transgender lesbian. We all get a point for transgender lesbian. So we're all even. But I forgot where you lived Emmy, I'm so sorry. I guess 24, Ben did say 21. I did say 22. You said 22.

A point for Ben. Ben is the winner coming out. It hates to win on your own show. I really don't like it, but part of me loves it out it hates to win on your own show I really don't like it it hates to win on your own show it hates to win on your own show it hates to win on your own show I mean

Precious hates to win on its own show I hate to win on my own show but you deserve to win, Ben. Not just for guessing, but for devising this whole concept. You do. You won. You always win.

It's extraordinary. There is really nobody doing it. No matter who wins, you also win. The house always wins. The house always wins. These people are the rooms in the house. also win. The house always wins. The house always wins. And they are... These people are the rooms in the house. I'm proud

to lose. I'm proud to lose to these two wonderful people, Ben and Hessa. And it was wonderful to participate. It's an honor and a pleasure. Theda, thank you for coming on. If any of you out there want to submit your bedrooms for, yes, our scrutiny, I'm going to be honest.

We were nice the first couple episodes, but I'm going to start being honest about how I feel about the rooms. And look, it doesn't matter. It's just my opinion. I'm in my childhood bedroom. So what does that say about me? You know, but thank you all for your submissions. And I mean, I'm so sorry. Everyone was so mean to you. I'm sure. I'm so sorry everyone was so mean to you

we were very fine after I was so mean to you in the podcast bootcamp episode oh no this is a trans lesbian masochist personality it'll be totally fine I'm sure she's a wonderful person.

Thank you, Emi. She has a great sense of humor. And thank you, Danny. Thank you, Danny. Thank you, Danny. Thank you, Danny. Thank you, Danny. Thank you, Danny.

And Sam, thank you. Thank you, Sam. Thank you to this gay faggot, Danny. Gay faggot. He really threw us for a loop. The first one was this absolutely beautiful, amazing queen. And just to give the last contestant a shout out, Sam, you also threw us for a loop.

You threw us. I do want to throw us. The submission link will be in the bio. Theta, Hessa, thank you both so much for joining me today. And we'll be back next week. Thank you. It was an honor and a pleasure. Back next week with another episode of interior motives until then goodbye everyone bye everybody