Seeking Derangements - Interior Motives (Ep. 1)

Episode Date: May 8, 2025

*FULL FREE VIDEO ON PATREON* Hello Seekers! Ben here, continuing my new game show Interior Motives, wherein you show us your bed (and the inside of your fridge) and we guess your gender, sexuality, age, and location! On this episode Jen Sillen and Angel Emoji join me to clock in and clock down. As always thank you to Natalia for helping me put together today's episode!

🎵 And welcome everyone at Seeking Derangements. We're doing our bonus series, Interior Motives. It's Ben, I'm here with Angel Emoji and Jen Sillin. Hello divas. What up? What up, what up? So happy to have you guys on and play this little game. We up, big fam.

So this is the game whereiners send us photos of their bedrooms and the inside of their fridge, and we have to clock gender, sexuality, age, and where they live. I'm going to clock their income too. If you want to do income, I don't have the figures on income. You could just keep adding to the list too.

You could do like mental illness, childhood. I was going gonna say health yeah how many times have you been to the doctor yeah we could do education as well how many degrees they have but

feel free to guess yeah whatever you want about their characters the only data I have on them right now unfortunately is just gender sexuality age and city but yeah let's let's clock some income too why not um so on this episode we are introducing scores because i feel like i need to make it a little bit more competitive how accurate you have to be like you have to get it all exactly right is there like plus or minus one year that's that math brain angel let's let's do it let's do a point for um whoever is the most correct on a certain round so like angel if you get the age and gender right you get one point whoever's the

most correct will get one singular point period okay okay this is a test round correct whoever's the most okay yeah yeah i'm like i'm like that feels a bit okay yeah but all right okay um so if you guys want me to zoom in on anything we can start over here in the bedroom clearly bed on the ground this is a major faggot this is a this is on the ground aids this is this is This is MLM. Dirty poopy sex. Dirty poopy sex. The raised laptop is interesting. The laptop stand.

Work from home. It looks really greasy. It does look really greasy. It looks extremely greasy. This is clearly a gay guy with some kind of sexual dysfunction.

And then the Virgin Mary thing. The Virgin Mary painting. Religious art. It could be like downtown West philip this kind of looks like like manhattan sort of thing where it's like mary and jesus on the wall right um i'm still look at you see look at those look at those crumbs and those lube smears on that where are the crumbs and then you got the you got the virgin that's the lube smears on that laptop. Where are the crumbs? And then you got the Virgin Mary. That's the lube.

That's the lube. No, that's sunscreen. I'm serious sexual. Sorry. I believe that this is the super goop dupe that Triggered Chips sells. That's what y'all are calling it these days. That's the move, the super goop dupe. Okay, but that could be any gender, honestly.

That could be any gender. there's some photos on the wall over here you can't really make them out um all right let's go to the other one remember this is just a practice round is that a leg what that looks like a lot that does look like this person by their clothes sure by their kneecaps okay their kneecaps female kneecap wait we need a what's her name um bevy to clock the kneecaps clocky knees

I'm gonna double down and say with these adidas slides this is giving low white blood cell count this is giving this is giving terminal AIDS I would say probably terminal aids is anyone even getting terminal aids anymore this this guy what's happening oh this guy more yeah more more yes i think it's a gay guy i think it's uh yeah i think it's a gay guy the monstera

on the wall right it seems like it seems like he's probably on this mattress looking at the sunset on the like you know on meth on the wall and being like yeah on meth and he's like reflecting on how beautiful the sunset is he's doing some hella poetic reflections

this room makes Requiem for a Dream look not depressing I feel like he's probably makes requiem for a dream look uh not depressing i feel like he's probably really hung over at like 6 p.m from the night before and just kind of just like looking with no thoughts in his mind at the wall but let's talk to the gay guy gay guy yeah okay what's in the fridge so we got a we got a fat ass gay guy. Did I see two half and halves in there? There are two half and halves. He's clearly using his water. Two half sticks of butter.

Two sticks of butter. Yeah, why are you using one stick of butter for the others? Clearly because maybe you got hungry and just bit into one of them. Exactly, that's what I'm saying for this guy. Two bottles of Topo Chico. Lots of meat. This one looks like it probably has coffee in it. Okay, here's what i'm saying for this guy two bottles of chico lots of meat this one looks like it probably has coffee okay here's what i'm gonna say the one that the row in the middle there that's the roommate because that's all the healthy stuff the yogurt zero percent fayet is the series that hold the juice the yogurt the organic that's all the roommate and then everything else is this uh well

this is just double large okay i recognize these as the pasteurized eggs the yogurt is the yogurt is kind of female to me i don't know the zero percent fee like that that is making me question the gay man right maybe this is someone with unresolved gender issues too. It could be a closeted, closeted trans woman. So someone like a sad, late in life, HIV gay guy that never missed his chance. Let's get to the next one here. Remember this is just a practice round. How many car accidents have you been in car

accidents have you been in this person's been in four car accidents i rest my case okay i think gay guy 20 gay man yeah gay man how old 25 love to hear that i'm gonna say this is a 41 year old you know last leg like this is probably Jen you're being so mean to this guy you're being so mean to this man let's okay we all agree on New York City right I mean honestly

the way this guy lives makes me think some shitty this is him it's his room it's his room it's his room it's ben he's 30 he's a gay cis male who lives in a new york city wait that jacket's cute though thank you angel um so i was right all along it's that's a point for jen costume but jen has a negative one uh yeah for for being late so we'll just that's yeah for being late i was late yes i was late oh wait i have to go down um well that was a practice run we'll we'll start the real game now um jen you were so mean to that poor game

well i've been in that room and i've seen i'm excited i was studying for this i was i was looking at my own room like 30 minutes ago i was looking at my own bedroom i was looking at my refrigerator thinking about my own you know centering myself in my own identity and right clocking my own tea the self-clocking the self-clock i feel perpetual motion clock I feel perpetual motion clock self clock okay so for the record I do not know the rest of these I did know the first one but

our beautiful intern now I feel like I she did know it she knew it of course but I swear I promise if you send in for the future episodes I will not be that mean.

Call a terminal AIDS patient. Terminal AIDS with sexual dysfunction. Terminal AIDS egg. The next ones I do not know, and that's all thanks to our beautiful intern, Natalia. Thank you, Natalia, for helping me develop this. Let's clock in. Okay.

Let's get to work, so what's what's coming across immediately of course it's this very cute dog and i don't have a read on what small so angel you're a dog owner yeah well sort of my parents you're you're you're you have shared custody of a dog about this side this look yeah what is that what does the dog mean to you what does that say about the person this honestly looks like it's like someone is like home for the holidays type shit like this is their bedroom this is their bedroom after they've left the house and their parents are like well we'll like just put the gray sheets on there yeah it looks like a. The dog is giving that too, but...

This looks like the room that grandma moves into eventually. Or it's like it was your teenage bedroom and there were so many crusty posters. So I'm guessing 79-year-old cis woman. I wish. That'd be so fucking cool. Or I mean,

you could submit for your grandmother. grandmother it would be cool that's true yeah take a foot of your grandma's room we'll call her a tranny um so we have uh oh philly that's in philly right yes reading terminal terminal market i've i've been wanting to take you there but that's in philly destination This could be a Philly apartment. House. This, okay, I realize this laundry basket, I said this last episode, but I never see anyone in New York City with this kind of laundry basket

because this to me is washer and dryer in the home. I'm seeing renovated West Philly townhouse. Like I'm seeing very renovated, not because- Philly condo. Let's get very renovated. Philly condo. Let's get a cross street. Yeah. Wait, what is that? Oh, can you open the door?

Hold on. One second. My red hood is... Oh my god. Oh my god. Is there... Alright, guys. Oh my god Alright guys now that it's just me here I want to say that The way it's not even smoky in here

That's so funny That noise is going to be so bad What are y'all making? Jenna's making like a fucking stew or something How does that make smoke? I don't know The thing is there's no smoke There's like no smoke in here

Oh my god Meg is gonna be so fucking pissed Okay hopefully this stops soon I can edit all this out It'll be a funny cut But I can't have this beeping the whole time people will be pissed i don't know it's kind of like the soundboard well it's like but i'm hearing it from jen's computer and in the rooms i'm hearing it twice

as much okay wait i'm gonna fill up my drink while this is happening yeah yeah yeah for sure what can we do? I open the door. Where is the smoke detector? Oh, my god. fixed it I love the episode like sometimes you gotta take an L when you cook a medicine ragu

I just see like there's like flames coming behind jen smoke and bend smoke if we set up this episode with you as a theater show and jen's like this person clearly lives in the ghetto my house is burning down um okay well let's get back to it ladies ladies. Well, yeah. After walking away and coming back now, I'm like... Put that on your soundboard, the beep. It's so good. That's what I was saying.

I was like, it's like the soundboard. The brown noise, the brown note. The brown note we've got to get on there. Yeah. So, okay, these hats. Okay, so the Philly thing, it could be Philly, but also if you have a thing on the wall of a philly venue while you still live in philly it's a bit like that's very grew up in philly he grew up

you think it's very philly i think that it's like it's like me having like a baby's all right like it's different i don't want it listen i don't i'm not gonna be as mean as i was on the last one but i'll just leave it at it's different in Philly. What is this city a map of? This is Philadelphia to me. Oh, Planta. Rome. Oh, it's Rome. So Italian.

It's definitely a guy. This is definitely a man. It's a guy. This is a dude. Maps on the wall. Philly. Gray. I think this is a dude who did a good job in Philly

that doesn't care that much about this. There's not really much to clock in here, honestly. That's like a sports poster next to the map yeah it's like baseball or something like baseball collage or something i'm gonna say sis dude uh maybe 30 but he honestly could be like 27 but may up to the dog could be even younger the dog food being in the room is roommates to me though because it's like someone doesn't want your dog in the kitchen you're right you're right who keeps their dog food in the bedroom unless you're like 24 okay sis dude 24 25 but it's a very manicured room i think we all

agree on cis man but cis some some some guys have a clean room when it looks like this this is the kind of the way that a cis dude's clean room looks for sure yeah yeah i think i think we could let's go to the fridge because honestly it's not straight straight dude 24 yeah let's go to the philly i think cis straight dude philly yeah let's get to the fridge, divas. Italian also. Oh. Italian. Oh, I mean, I want to do the race one. This guy might be gay. It's pretty orderly.

Okay, the bakery is jumping out. Oh, I'm seeing, look at that Lay's dip. That's not a gay. Those Lay's dips are so good. Yeah, they are so good. But it's definitely, it's very straight. It's like Super Bowl snack vibes. Oh, see Trader Joe's.

Okay. All Trader Joe's. Okay. I think this fridge looks cleaner than it is because it's trader joe's shopper does that make sense there's i mean there's a lot in here there is a packaging makes it look cleaner right okay i have you see that gatorade you see five beers in the back. I see two Lay's dips. I'm sticking with straight. Lay's and a Sestino's. Which means it's not a

one-off. It's not like, oh, my friend left this dip here. It means I like these dips. Look, I'm going to be crazy here. I'm kind of, because of the contents of the fridge, I'm going with, and I'm not saying this pejoratively, I'm going to go with normie gay guy. Is that because you've had

enough poopy butt sex in places that look like this? You have another advantage? I think this is probably a semi-professional gay guy who just has a very streamlined aesthetic life. Because I think we all probably know gay guys who have

little boutique over-designed apartments, who are very intentional about their things. That's not over-designed apartments who are very intentional about their things that's not over-designed exactly that's what i'm saying i'm saying when you meet a gay guy who doesn't have an over-designed apartment holding the line i they usually look very normal and i think that this is a gay man who and props to him it doesn't really care to have like the coolest things in his apartment wait wait wait scroll back up

to the top of the fridge to the top right I think that's vegan egg the yellow the like turmeric colored egg carton I used to be vegan and they sell vegan eggs in that's as close as I can get in it's to the far right under the sento thing that would

be huge i swear to god although wait maybe i believe you i'm holding the line at gay guys don't buy unrefrigerated dips gay guys don't buy unrefrigerated dips gay guys only buy dips for their chips in the fridge section so s salsas, guacamoles. Because it's fresher. Let me say this about gay guys and our dips. Gay guys make dips from scratch. They're not buying pre-made dips. Now you're going back to the over... Well, gay guys

like me will refuse to buy a dip. I'll make my own dip. Yes, but I'm saying... You also don't shop at Trader Joe's. That's what I'm saying. this is a different kind of gay guy who has a very streamlined kind of aesthetic lifestyle a streamlined kind of consumerist lifestyle

he wants basic things he doesn't care for them to be boutique he has a normal bedroom he has a normal fridge honestly this is giving I think it's straight cis man 24 Philadelphia sports fan, Italian. All right.

Totally. Well, we also, for all these people, have a hit. I'm pretty certain. Oh, yes. We've seen it in four car accidents, Ben. Damn, that just set in. Wait, how many has Jacques been in? He doesn't remember.

It's upwards of six, for sure. And then it also is like have were you hit by the car were you driving you know no because you don't like but i but i've been to the site of one of jock's um worst car crashes when he fell into he was hit by a car by a local judge's son and jock fell into a pile of broken glass it's just like something that happened in like a shakespeare play the judge's son hit a local hit a local peasant who fell into a pile of glass it's like so cartoonish um how many car accidents he's this so this guy's only been in one car so straight sis dude i'm saying i'm saying gay he learned he learned from his car

before we go to the next slide do angel and i both get a point if we're both right whoever is the should we change our answer slightly the exact same answer make him okay i'll say it sure if you both get it if you both get it correct you guys can both get the answer you can both to the point yeah yeah for sure okay good okay let's just do it let's just lock in 24 24 cis straight male uh philadelphia maybe with the girls yes yeah i am gonna hold on gay guy i'm gonna old gay guy you're too old for me and I want to say I'm going to say Philly although I feel in my gut

Philly is not right but I just don't have a backup answer to it it could be like Midwest I think it could be now that I'm thinking about the apartment thinking about the lifestyle it's giving more Midwest to me. I'm going to take a flyer.

I'm going to say gay guy, 25. Gay cis man, 25. Cincinnati. Cincinnati. Cincinnati's not bad. Ready? Okay. For the reveal?

I'm ready. Gay guy, gay guy, gay guy. Oh. Gay guy. Gay guy. Gay guy. Whoa. Gay guy. See? Damn. We were so off.

And the built to spill shirt. I know. Shout out. That's the Philly connection. Yeah, but that doesn't really track the room. You need a bright black in your room, sir. Jen, you're just literally you're literally just being homophobic

if I can't even call you sir Spokane kind of does make sense to me I don't know a single thing about Spokane Washington to not to listen not to shoot holes in this show but he didn't say whether or not he's cis

that's so true Jen this show but he didn't say whether or not he's cis that's so true yeah so it doesn't count this round doesn't count this round does not count unless spokane is a new gender identity i can't keep track um wow you're right i need really well i'm gonna say this i think we can assume he's cis only because a trans gay guy would say gay guy trans when you submit this we do ask for gender sexuality gay guys gay guy gay guy is a gender and sexuality unto itself in my mind you know um i guess you might want to revise that.

Really? Okay. Well, I take it back, everyone. Well, you know what? I'll be a gracious host and I will not give a point for that one. I'm feeling really uncomfortable all of a sudden.

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Look at the overcoat. This is a very transgender overcoat. It's overcoat, also the octopus phone holder. That looks like acne. I don't think that's acne. Micellar water is a makeup remover. Right, the camera. Micellar water is a makeup remover. Right. The camera. Also, I think this is a very stylish transgender woman.

I don't. I think this is a retro future trans woman. What does that mean? This is kind of a Portland turned London trans woman. Whoa. Actually, very true. Somehow very true. But she has like, she has like hyper pop leaning. Exactly. I very true. Somehow very true but she has like

hyper pop leanings. I'm not hating on your style here. I'm saying the camera the rug it's like giving Belle and Sebastian in college turned hyper pop playlist. Right. Okay but I'm going to say something about the location. This to me looks like a very New York

City apartment with all of these weird ducks. The shitty New York heater. It looks very New York to me looks like a very New York City apartment with all of these weird ducks the heater it looks very New York to me is this a lamp or a tripod? when you zoom in it's different for us at least for me

do you see this thing in the bottom right corner? when you zoom in it's like offset to me your cursor we'll work on that bottom right corner is that a tripod or a lamp to you? Your cursor... We'll work on that. Bottom right corner, does that look like a tripod or a lamp to you? It looks like a tripod, honestly.

It would track with the camera. But there's something on it. But it's not really the type of camera that you put on a tripod. It's also too low to be a lamp. Laptop on the bed. Maybe they're a producer. We've got the bed. Let's clock the window. is new york city yeah it's new york that's bush that's ridgewood bushwick

bushwick ridgewood yeah yeah um can we get a zoom in on that hat what's next to the okay or yeah it's a next to the okay lou is this is close as i can go on the hat i don't know what it says next to the it looks like the white house oh my god it does look like the white house it does look like the white house it might be so maybe they're like a political activist or no i'm thinking that's an ironic yes that's an ironic thrift store hat the jugs of water these aesthetic bedside water jugs are so funny because it's like bitch at the end of the night we're all at the middle of the night we're all waking up the same thing of water but it's like so it's a projector

next to the bed oh that's a projector okay that's again very transgender very that's for music video and afters absolutely there's so many dolls they're super clean

okay you know what I'm seeing next to the poster next to it that's Umru's believe that that is Umru's Korsaka Studios poster it's like anatomical yeah it's Umru's poster okay so this is

last known records at the top this is last known records okay so this is i think it says last last known records at the top this is last known records okay so it's umru okay um i'm this could be this is either trans woman or non-binary i'm going to i'm saying she they straight girl okay she they straight girl we i think we all agree on new york city yes i'm saying she they gay girl, New York City, 24 again. I'll go 24 again. I'm seeing Transbian. I think Transbian, New York City.

There would be tell. Okay, loose Transbian. There would be a little more Transbian tell. I think Transbian, 26, New York City. But we have the fridge as well, so let's clock that. Oh, okay, Very aesthetic fridge. Let's look at the condiments. Interesting that the sausage and the meat

is on the same shelf as the last one. Right. That's that Le Bon Madame jam. Actually, there's a bee in Paris. Studied abroad in Paris. This looks like lemon and lime juice to me

am i wrong that's lemon lime um also don't y'all keep estrogen in the fridge wouldn't we be seeing yeah you know what oh okay that's same thing um a half and a half i'm sorry that betty crocker that frosting sorry sorry diva sorry for the clock it's a it's a lemon it's a lemon betty betty froster or betty exactly better something about that like meat do you see this meat on the center shelf that's like it's like it's giving um what's that there's like that oh up here grocery store in bushwick um that sells shit like that uh valentino's no uh foster sundry by the park yes right this person

shops there that's where that person procured that Between that meat and then the jam jars This bitch is obsessed with picnics Yes Maria Hernandez A Maria Hernandez picnic Parisian style picnic Yes Lots of Asian

Inspired sauces Which again is very transgender to me I've been in Jen's apartment. I think this is a half-Asian she-they straight call. You're guessing Waysian. I'm gonna say $70,000 a year.

Okay. Very income, I see. I hope you can see the freezer. This is very one-bedroom. I hope you can see the freezer. This is very one bedroom. I think rheumatoid arthritis. Right. Everything in this fridge seems to have a particular, like, it's definitely one person's things.

There's nothing in these, no items in this fridge are clashing. It's not like a roommate fridge at all. No, I think this is a roommate fridge. I think girls are aligned i think that right that is not a one bedroom or it's like a classic situation like one of the it's like a two bedroom and one of the roommates just doesn't cook yes right or like has like four things in there like three things because if you look i'm look at the floor space here there's this room is not the room of a one bedroom where the bedroom looks like that

that's true this is yeah you're right you're right you're right um okay let's get to the hint i drug of choice is ketamine okay transgender go figure yeah no i'm gonna stick him 24 she they, you know. But the pronouns aren't one of the things, right? So that's kind of a pointless thing. I'm going to say 23. Yeah, maybe we should add pronouns as well. But you know what we mean by she, they.

Right. Right. Right. But there's a big difference between trans. I was going to say they, she. But there's a big difference between trans she they and cis she they are very different there's no yeah i'm thinking trans it doesn't exist it absolutely exists they exist they exist

okay there's no she days for some reason the femttonil poster is giving younger than 24. Same with the Uber poster. Yeah, 22-year-old, she-they, trans, lesbian. Choke the fact that there's not that much furniture, but there are posters, which is giving just a knowledge right Myrtle Wyckoff I'm gonna go with New York City I'm gonna go transgender lesbian

and I'm going to say this person is 20 I'm gonna say 25 because the taste because a 22 year old apartment you don't have this kind of like this this is a more of elevated water jugs they're they're raising but it's almost it's almost like they they elevate prematurely like

when i moved to new york i was like buying like bee pollen and shit and like making smoothies with like pollen and like right and now i eat like shit you know it's because these bitches cafe forgot to go to the grocery store exactly um okay so are we ready are we locked in 23 are we locked in straight girl angel you're saying 22 22 she they lesbian trans uh you're both saying trans. I'm saying transgender, lesbian, 26, New York City. Alright. Let's get the reveal here. Bye, trans.

Early transition. We're sort of both right. London! Oh my god, I didn't think about. Okay, I can see it. But she's American. Okay, so I'm definitely not getting this point. She's American. Because I didn't say trans And Max you're welcome for the

You're welcome for the read The fishy read What was the age you said Angel? I said 22 Fuck I'm so up I hate to give myself another point here It doesn't feel right. Dylan always wins.

The house always wins, D-Liz. Wow, okay. I forgot about international submissions. Okay, but you said straight, and we said gay, and we said lesbian. I said transgender lesbian, but she's bi. Okay, okay.

I can't give myself another point. It doesn't feel right. It doesn't feel right, y' okay. I can't give myself another point. It doesn't feel right. It doesn't feel right, y'all. You can't compromise. It does not feel right. Let's just say you had a negative one handicap because you already played this game. Exactly, exactly.

You get that second. That's how it should be in the future. Jen, Angel's right. No. Let's get to it. I like having a better chance of winning this. Right, right, right, right, right. It makes it more fun. We should also do a speed round at some point,

like a three-minute speed round. This is our last one here. Okay. And look, you guys could still win it. We could still tie. I should build in a speed round in case of like ties or stuff like that that's a good because we're still testing this episode this show out but let's get to this one here three pictures of the bedroom okay the floor immediately to me is

like crown heights like yes i used to live in a place in bushwick with floors like that too and this crown molding is so like south brooklyn to me this is this is like lefferts bedstuy or even bedstuy this is giving lefferts garden crown heights somewhere near prospect park i don't think now i'm saying bushwick it's too small it's too small it's bushwick that's true what are your immediate immediate immediate clockings on the gender computer zoom in on the makeup male oh wait it's makeup yeah never mind watch what you say angel clearly a man okay so we got a body scent. We've got... This is Ikea bed set. I used to have this. Oh, yeah, it is.

Yeah, the bedding and the side table. We have some cologne or perfume. I can't really make out what they are. It's a glossy body spray. These look like an assortment of mascaras or eyeliners. This could be

some sunscreen this girl it's like so organized with the makeup it's almost yeah let's clock the shoes let's clock the shoes look at the shoe size okay prada heels prada heels and with a boyfriend i'm gonna say this is a boyfriend's shoes and more okay so this person is short because it's the same person's shoes pretending to be tall different sizes no this is so girl who's like she's wearing her nice like femi um shoes but then she's also wearing like a sundress with sneakers her jam jar in her bag right okay le bon madame it does seem very It does seem very Heterosexual and cis to me

Off the bat Is this a real housewife? This is a real housewife Yeah I don't know It's giving that I think it's a real housewife Printer on the ground She's an artist

She's an artist. She's an artist. She's printing her art. Look what she printed. Look what she made. Go down. Go down below the printer. Look at what she made. Oh, look at this.

This color swab. Maybe she was just testing out the printer for her boss. She was testing out the ink. For her boss? She works for an artist you mean okay this circle lamp this like circle lamp in the wall yeah it's just saying it's incredibly cis woman i think it's definitely a girl right glossier body spray like i i don't think i don't think trans girls... I just think the kind of

like, and no offense, the lack of just like complete... There's not really that much chaotic energy in this room. It reads to me as a very cisgendered, heterosexual person. The bike is

a giveaway as well. The bike... Don't you want to read his fish? And this is Bravo The bike is a giveaway as well. The bike we all remember. Honey, where's your OK Loop poster? Right. Don't you want to read his fish? And this is Bravo, or this is some, I'm just judging by this woman's face. This is very like television for gay men and cis women.

The book's too. It's not giving tranny. What is this book here with the big text on the spine of it? product power broker the power it's a power broker is that why do i know that title you're thinking of 48 laws of power no i know the power broker what what is that i have to look it up i'm cheating to look that up it's what's that say back there? I'm sick? I saw that earlier. It looks like it says I'm sick. Or maybe I'm stick. I'm sick.

She was trying to write I'm sis, but she did not. She's a tree. I'm stick. She's a big fan of Newgrounds stick man animation. She's a huge something awful Newgrounds E-bombs world head. Wait, let's, sorry.

I want to look at this art. I didn't really... What do you think about the pillowcases? This again to me is kind of a cisgendered pastiche of aesthetics. Yeah. The polka dot. The polka dot, the weird

cityscape. Yes, what in the Betsy Johnson? Painting on the left what do you guys see here is that a sad clown no the way left i feel like it's like uh friends art from art school sure yeah i think it's her art i think she's an artist jen i don't know why you want to accept this i think it's her art. I think she's an artist, Jen. I don't know why you wouldn't accept this. I think she's a brilliant artist who deserves more recognition. We should also do profession. We should do profession.

That's a good one as well. If she's an artist, she would have cigarettes and a lot of canvases. This to me looks like it could be her. This looks like it could be her own art as well. Yeah, beret. I can't really make out what these things are,

but it looks like... She should have contracts everywhere for works being sold. Right. Maybe she works at a gallery, an art gallery. I could absolutely see, like, downtown gallery girl who lives in Brooklyn. Yes, at 1,000%. This girl is, like, gallerina at Bitforms,

like, or the Blade Study. Totally. The 17 tote bags gives that away yes the currency in that world they just go they go to galleries and trade tote bags back and forth yeah god this looks exactly like my old apartment it's like freaking me out i'm like i feel like i can guess your address bushwick avenue bushwick bushwick avenue gates j you're right the south brooklyn rooms have the kind of crown molding and the floor like this they're like checkered pattern but they're much bigger they're much bigger no but sometimes they recently they subdivide them like they make them into four bedrooms instead of two this is not a subdivided room. Look at this wall. Look at how textured this wall is. That wall has been there forever.

No, these are old. But we're not seeing every wall here. There could be a really shitty drywall in the middle of this. Girl, look at the corner. This is not a new wall. I mean, sometimes the old ones look better than the new ones. Alright, let's go to the fridge.

Let's go to the fridge. Okay, she only sent us like half of, we only have like half of her fridge here. Wait, sorry, that's a hint. Oh, because maybe she didn't want to expose her roommates. So maybe she's like not very close with her roommates and then doesn't want to like belittle them by being like, oh, look what you bought.

She's shy. Podcasters call you a faggot online because you have like the wrong kind of mayo um okay so this is all this is only hers down there i would imagine that's what's happening yeah this sick carton of six eggs is so cisgendered girl to me like with a job yeah this is fitting with our gallerina read girl cut your own brussels sprouts honey but she's busy she has a job the poland spring is funny like the tap water is okay to drink in in new york also poland spring would like definitely kill you faster than tap water wait okay should we consider that this isn't new york Wait, okay.

Should we consider that this isn't New York? No. The last one really threw us for a loop. But Angel, girl, this bedroom is... I've never seen bedrooms that have this crown molding, this floor. Let's look at the brands of the food. Maybe we should have been a little critical on the last one.

Okay, but also, not a single fucking window. Not a single... Not a single window. I guess this could be a foster surgery revival Europe when it's actually Europe. Not a single window. I guess this could be a window, but this is so New York City to me. This could be Paris France. It could be France. Okay, first of all,

this brand is an American, Vital Farms is an American brand. First of all. Well, she might have it shipped in. Exactly. She loves her Vital Farms. This might be her favorite brand. Her dad owns Vital Farms.

The Vital Farms Nepo Baby in Paris. Feta cheese. What is this? Different kinds of bread. She has 18 month prosciutto di Parma.

She's in an English speaking country. That's true. This is Parmesan in a Ziploc bag. I use the same thing. Banana peppers. She's making like Italian sandwiches and shit. The arugula. I mean, she eats well.

No, for sure. She's definitely doing, she's so doing mozzarella prosciutto arugula sandwiches. She's doing the cheese and crackers diet. She's not doing the cheese and crackers diet. Lizzo famously lost 115 pounds on. She's doing it. this is a cis girl it's so cis girl

29 I could say 28 I'm going younger I think she's younger simply because 29 at that point cis women if they don't have boyfriends they don't live in New York City like that no it's when they get the boyfriends.

I think there's cases where that's not true. That's how they become the can lady on your block. But this isn't giving can lady. This is not giving can lady. I'm saying when they turn 50. If they get the boyfriend, they leave the city. If they don't get the boyfriend, they become the can lady.

Right, but this bitch is in the city and she's not the can lady so i'm saying she's younger because she's not can lady or leaving leaving this but 29 29 is not too soon to give up and become the can lady no you either she still has 20 she still has 20 years of gallerina i mean she still has to get on lithium by 40 but yeah she's good so yeah you can always become the can lady do not give up oh we have we have the hint we have the hint i i think we all okay before we get to the hint i think we all agree on cisgendered female i'm riding i'm gonna ride for new york city because it's i mean i think it's i think it's straight too i don't really see any gay lesbian i think i think i

think cis straight new york city and'm going to go like 23 even. 28. I think there'd be a Okay Lou poster on the wall if it was 23 or something similar of that nature. There are girls who aren't so indie music, like Okay Lou. Name one. Gracie Abrams.

No, name one girl that's not indie. I guess that's true. I guess all women are kind of indie in some way. Name one woman that isn't a Portlandia sketch. That's so true, Jen. That is so true. I'm actually really struggling to think of one. Let's get to the hint.

Car accident. People love picking the car accidents one zero car crashes grad student in a social science field the tv is always on grad student in a social science field i think this is matching the well maybe she's not 29 then yeah what do people become grad students It's younger to become a grad student. It can be any time. I mean, you could go whenever, but... You could do 23. With that apartment and that fridge. Yeah, 26, I want to say.

29, she... Yeah. I'd say 28. Yeah. Because she's had, like, you know, three years off of college at that point, and she's like, I'm ready to go back. And she's partied, and she's like,

yeah, I don't want a job. I want to go to grad school. I think 28. The TV's always on. doesn't party that's also cis and she was watching Bravo she definitely has like so many gay friends yeah I mean she listens to the podcast

we're just saying 23, 26, 28 I'm gonna bump it up to 26 Angel I think you're right yeah I'm saying to bump it up to 26, Angel. I think you're right. Yeah, I'm saying 26, cis, straight, girl. Then I'm going to say 27. You're going to go up, Jen, but shouldn't you go down? No, I was 28.

I'm going 27. That way, if she's anything 27 or over, I win. Right, but you're hedging your bumps. Honestly to i've been going too young each time i'm gonna say 28 i'm saying no no way this person is 20 well i'm gonna say 30 i'm gonna say 31 i'm gonna say 42 all right well i'm going back 28 28. 76. Cisgender trans woman. Cisgender trans woman. Okay, wait. I'm going...

Cisgender trans woman. I'm going to 28. 28 cisgender woman, straight, white. Okay, we have the same answer. Income, maybe 80K. I say income, you know, 20k because she's a grad student. Wait, how do grad students even make money?

The government like, Oh, cause grad students don't get paid, right? They don't make money. But like, don't they just get like a stipend for their apartment and stuff? They don't make money,

but they have like no expenses. No, they don't. It's neither. They pay for grad school. They have to either save up, take out a loan or have rich parents. Wait,

then why are all of my grad student friends being like the government pays for everything in my life because they have a they got because they got a scholarship or they get grants she could have a scholarship i don't see why you're so anti this girl jen like she's in she's at with the irish gold butter yeah yeah she's a she's a woman in stem jen she's a stem chica. You think social sciences are a STEM? Science is in the name, bitch. Social science is social studies. It's a science. It's a science.

What was your degree? What are we doing right now but social studies? Bitch, my degree was in architecture. Your degree was in architecture? Yes, bitch. I have an architecture degree. Gender architecture, baby. That's crazy.

Whoa. I did not know. You went's crazy I went to architecture school you went to RISD for architecture where'd you go I did one semester at a community college in Denver Colorado I graduated I went to school for neuroscience if anyone cares and I was valedictorian oh my god

are you for real no i'm actually for real i could show you a certificate i would say that ben went to school for social sciences the amount of times he brought out that bag what does that even mean what does that even what does that would even mean oh we know we know okay we locked it on the answers y'all yeah 28 cis girls straight new york i mean we all agree i'm just saying she's probably 20 gates avenue j train all right 24 new york city god i should have stayed down to 26 God damn it I told y'all Wow what flag is that

That's a cis straight woman Why is it the trans colors Wait but it has male and female on it Cause they're cis Cause it's cis men and cis female Why is it so hard for you two to understand Why would they not just put the woman sign Yeah that's what I'm thinking it should just be woman sign on pink why is there

why don't y'all stay out of cisgender business how about trying to keep them out of our business um lucy 24 cute cute apartment cute apartment um exactly i love the sweater it's exactly what i was imagining and this like busted tote thing you're slaying it diva instagram i think that's i think that's j train j train gates avenue i think i think absolutely no no i'm saying i could even say your address right now i'm almost i'm nearly certain i could i could even say your apartment number and the door code you really is it is it that is it that specific to the apartment i'll i'll send you photos of my old apartment i'll like go back in my like google photos like 2020 like peak pandemic um yes it looks very much like that that That is so funny. Well, I hate to do this, but I did win.

It feels... Yeah, you got every single one. Wow, the host won. I wish there was another. I guess I've had some more practice. Well, Angel, you can come back whenever you want, girl. For anyone out there... I know, I need to practice.

Yeah, practice. Go to a bunch of apartments. You know what you should start doing, Angel? You could break into people's apartments make your guests wait for them to get home and then be like oh my god you're a trans man i thought you were a sis you know and they would be like i'm calling the police they would only be mad if i was wrong yeah they don't be mad if you're wrong wait what'd you say john take pictures of Meg's house and you use them on a future one? No. We've already set off a fucking alarm

at her house. I kind of forgot about that. Wait, how's your stew doing? Actually, I've got to tend to it. If Brad gets back here and he doesn't want stew, he's going to beat my ass. People are going to be so pissed off if the stew is not done. But anyone out there who wants to submit to Interior Motives,

the submission link will be in the bio. Jen, Angel, thank you both so much for joining me. Do you guys have plugs? Any plugs you want to shout out? Anything you want to... Yeah, listen out for Lenta by Alenta. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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