Seeking Derangements - SD 348 - Daddy Sucking Lips

Episode Date: October 6, 2024

Happy Sunday! Today we discuss megalopolis flopping, review Sophies new album, and Jacques reveals what he thinks the pyramids are. Plus we take your calls! Get tickets to our live show here: https...://www.eventbrite.com/e/electile-dysfunction-an-election-night-variety-show-tickets-1034976200677?aff=oddtdtcreator And get ¡No Pasarán!, Matt Christmans new book here: https://chapotraphouse.store/products/no-pasaran?srsltid=AfmBOoqL5ffoYPpfmL7GUGkhchSBj_XeLmPrsS8BUCJlRlbDqqVCsxy1

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Starting point is 00:00:00 In a monster they saw us pass, the long weapons, military helmet, and here I come, I do a shit and I shoot, and if I get caught I take off the insurance, I burn them, I throw them, I Hello everyone, welcome to Seeking Derangements. It's Ben, I'm here with Jock and Hessa. Welcome to a free episode. You can find bonus episodes on our Patreon. It's patreon.com slash seeking derangements it's ben i'm here with jock and hessa um welcome to a free episode uh you can find bonus episodes on our patreon that's patreon.com slash see any derangements but before we get started one important note um is our live show on election night tuesday november 5th at littlefield in brooklyn it's called electile dysfunction it's us it's some of our friends joining us for election night variety variety show so forth you'll find a link in the description of this episode and now let's get started jock hessa how are we doing today you're both i'm doing fantastic i my allergies are going crazy
Starting point is 00:01:18 and i have strep throat but okay wow you are oh wait you're literally sicker. Let me guess, your stomach hurts. Well, it's because I told you already. So don't try to guess it fake. Try to destroy my character. Let me guess, you're both having medical emergencies. Well, I didn't mention my medical emergencies. I'm brave.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Oh, fuck you, bitch. I'm feeling a little tired. I'm feeling a little tired, if anyone cares. Well, you do feel more tired. I could tell that you were feeling tired because you look very tired. Incredibly rude. You don't look tired to me.
Starting point is 00:01:54 Thank you, Hessa. And your cheeks are kind of puffy. Did something happen? Are you having an allergic reaction? Ben, I have a shirt to show you. Do you want to see my new shirt? Yeah, let me see it. Fuck you, Jock. Let i have a shirt to show you do you want to see my new shirt yeah let me see it fuck you jock let me see the shirt tessa oh my god you got the mood dang shirt why did you get the mood dang shirt why did you because it's cute why did you buy that
Starting point is 00:02:17 it's so funny we're talking about we're talking about mood dang way too much on the show jen and i talked about mood dang for like 20 minutes yesterday. So I don't, I really don't want to get back into it. This whole episode Jen and I did, we did a lot of
Starting point is 00:02:31 Mudang China Mac coverage. If they fought, I can't wait till they, I can't wait till If they fought, which China Mac would absolutely
Starting point is 00:02:39 wipe the floor with Mudang. I can't wait. China Mac would fall for it. I'm so sick of wearing the slander. It's also the exact conversation I had yesterday with Jen. We can't redo it. I can't wait. No, China Mac would fall for it. I'm so sick of hearing the slander. It's also the exact conversation I had yesterday with Jen. We can't redo it.
Starting point is 00:02:49 We can't redo it. Okay. I can't wait. I can't wait. I can't wait till extremists assassinate Mu Du Ding for his extreme political connections. What are his political connections?
Starting point is 00:03:01 First of all, it's a girl. Maybe I shouldn't ask you that. She's a baby. And I don't know if we want to go down that road yeah i don't know if jacques will be able to think of a funny extreme political connection actually why don't we try jock why do we what does mudu ding believe and why is he getting assassinated for his extreme political beliefs i heard that and and this is gonna have said a lot of people but i heard that, and this is going to upset a lot of people, but I heard that Moudou Ding is pro-Israel.
Starting point is 00:03:28 He's the one thing, the one thing John has. No, wait, listen. So pathetic. Oh, shut up. It's not pathetic. It's perfect for him, I guess, because he's hated.
Starting point is 00:03:44 You could have picked so many. You could have picked Tibet. He couldn't have. He doesn't have that. What do you think of Tibet? Sorry, I'm being so... John called me puffy and I'm being a huge cunt to him. Great way to open the show.
Starting point is 00:03:56 What serious topics do we have to talk about today? Well, Sophie's new album. Serious topics. I haven't listened to it personally i like it okay so it pisses me off when uh people are like it's just not her it's like okay like it's actually songs composed by her like who are you talking to like you're talking you're saying that to like her family who made it and she made all those songs like it's crazy she she just like like okay telling her brother and her mom like actually sorry what
Starting point is 00:04:35 what is jock's take on it jock let me get jock has the take that it's like a money grab or something yeah no i just even if it is i I'm like, give it, which is like, just give her family some money. No, I, okay. First of all, that's a misquote.
Starting point is 00:04:50 I never said that it was a money grab. Okay. Explain, explain what it is. I'm curious. I said, I said that I heard, heard some,
Starting point is 00:04:57 something about someone trying to fight for their collaboration to be on the album and that they were upset that some collaborators got like two or three songs and that it was like based more on I don't even know I'm not gonna say them by now this isn't really tracking to me
Starting point is 00:05:17 why is it not what's not tracking here I just don't why are you mad about that I'm not mad about it. You're putting words into my mouth. I have. I'm just looking for what your actual critique is here. My actual critique is that I thought maybe any of the songs,
Starting point is 00:05:36 the collaborations between FKA Twigs, Kesha, the collaborations between Lady Leisure, the collaborations between. Das has the last song on there yeah uh love the earth off love love love me off love me i liked that track i liked that track and i liked gallop but yeah but you hated everything else i didn didn't hate it. I just, okay, let me, I got it now. So the first release of Sophie's that's post-humous is arguably more of her artsier, more ambient. There's a lot more like tracks that are just like ambient slash spoken word.
Starting point is 00:06:23 And she was claiming that before this, was going to be um her pop album and to call this her pop album i'm just confused well but i still like call it her pop album but that's what she was intended for it and then also i thought trans nation was going to be the next album release i didn't think it was i thought they were going to release Transnation as a full album and not just another album titled Sophie, which makes it impossible to Google, too. Well, they probably changed their plans when she died. I'm sure that probably changed the idea of, like,
Starting point is 00:07:00 let's do a pop album, you know, a fun pop album about transnation. I'm sure, you know, when people jumped in to collaborate to finish it, they were like, well, let me complete this circuit with a little bit of the sadness I'm feeling because she's dead, you know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:23 But hey, what am I, I don't know ben are you are you writing an essay for class yeah literally i'm actually working on our i'm actually working on our flyer right now um there's something that happened that i don't want to talk about but i'm working um well i haven't listened to the album you guys are huge sophie heads i figured you would want to discuss it in length um my opinion on it is that it seems like a sweet gesture to someone who, you know, meant so much to so much of us. And it's nice that there's other music being put out by a cadre of people who
Starting point is 00:07:54 worked intimately with her and can, you know, keep the project alive. yeah, I don't really have any strong feelings on it. I know a lot of people are talking about it as if it's this cynical hash grab or isn't true to her vision or true to her memory.
Starting point is 00:08:13 And I'm kind of like, well, you people are fans and you don't really know. And these are all people who collaborated with her and loved her. So I kind of trust her close collaborators and her family to stay true to her craft and I think everyone who's complaining about it especially the fans should probably shut
Starting point is 00:08:30 up and be glad that they got anything and stop inserting themselves into a private person's life because that's what she is it's not a private person's life it is she's a private person she doesn't owe
Starting point is 00:08:44 her music isn't private. It wasn't like Sophie... The relationship she had with the people that she collaborated with are... Yeah, of course, there's a public element to that
Starting point is 00:08:55 in which they are releasing a piece of music, but... But it's her brother who finished the album, basically. And it's her brother who worked with her... And her brother's
Starting point is 00:09:03 a private person, I think. So... And it's her brother who you're talking to who you're who you're like people are basically referring to and they're like this album sucks you would have hated i see i never said the album sucks or that she would have hated it i just i thought a they were just going to release the album at trans nation as the track list that it appeared like maybe two months a month and a half before she passed away slash I have thought since it was going to be a posthumous album they might make it like a full like five disc chrono like you know a whole catalog would be released at once yeah well I don't know. That's an interesting thing to think.
Starting point is 00:09:50 But we got some crazy news coming in, you guys. We have some insane news. Hayley Welch, the Hawk2A girl, just tweeted a picture of her. It says, Hawktober starts today. And it's her holding the severed head of Mrs. Matt. What? She's killed Mrs. Matt. For October, she killed Mrs. Matt. She killed
Starting point is 00:10:13 Mrs. Matt and is wearing her skin and is wearing her skin. And I'm not sure how this happened or what happened, but it seems that she killed Mrs. Mett. Oh, my God. What the fuck does the Hog Tua girl have to do with the Metts?
Starting point is 00:10:31 Is she living in New York, or is she from New York? I have no idea. She sounds Southern. We've never really talked about Hog Tua. What do you guys think? We have somewhat. What do we think about Hog Tua? We're literally doing the
Starting point is 00:10:45 bill maher um yeah uh quentin tarrant i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm tapping back in i can start running the show again i just had to fix this one good lord that was sorry i really was riding on you really riding on you guys to talk about so we for at least 10 minutes and it did oh and that was not great. Okay, so. Jock, what do you think about Hak Tua as someone who also
Starting point is 00:11:08 is from the South and sucks a lot of dick? Yeah, can you think of another, let's hear your word for sucking dick. How would you euphemize it?
Starting point is 00:11:16 What would be your? Okay, cool. More violent. Something horrible. Yeah, you know, Hak hawk to it no i'm more of a exactly you spit on that thing i throw up on that thing i puke on that thing screams on that thing yeah i just scream in it I blow it up with air. Okay, so honestly, I just think that that girl, I don't understand what personality she has out of a catchphrase.
Starting point is 00:11:51 I mean, she's just, I don't get it either. She seems totally featureless and kind of just dumb to me. I don't understand why people are into her. She's had some interesting. Just like Mudang, it's going on way too long and they're both idiots who don't deserve
Starting point is 00:12:09 to spotlight. Yeah. Well, I think, I think she did, first of all, you're being, you're hating on women again.
Starting point is 00:12:16 That's two women. Yes, I am. And I'm not ashamed of it. I don't see you talking this way about any, no, men.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Okay. Because I love men because I'm gay. I love men and I hate women. The Hawk Tua girl, she's had some interesting guests. She had Vladislav Surkov, the propaganda
Starting point is 00:12:38 minister of Russia under Putin's rule. They had a really interesting conversation. I mean, the thing is she is getting all of these like... Yeah, Julian Assange called in. She's getting all of these like big time like public intellectuals and heads of state
Starting point is 00:12:54 that I'm like, whoa, it's kind of crazy. They're putting Huk Tua in the room with like North Korean defectors, Xi Jinping, Julian Assange she needs to get that one defector on who was talking about the poop hunts remember that bitch oh yeah I love her
Starting point is 00:13:15 we need to bring that bitch back we need to put her back on shows and stuff what is her fucking name everyone just kind of realized that she was lying. Do you know who we're talking about? Not even a little clue. I'm listening though.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Do you know what we're talking about? The lady who's stealing poop in North Korea? Yeah, not at all. Why do you think they would have to steal poop in North Korea? Yeah. Pass a drug test? Why would they need to do that? A stool test?
Starting point is 00:13:48 So why would they need to steal each other's poop to pass a stool test? Make a house of poop. To get a job. Like Adobo. Everyone's poop has to be tested.
Starting point is 00:14:05 But also everyone in North Korea is on what drug do you think they're on that they have to steal poop for the drug test? Jock said they're going to make Adobo houses out of poop. Which I feel like we should really do you know what Adobo is? We need to do that in places.
Starting point is 00:14:21 It's Adobe. Adobo is like a spice plant. Yeah. Adobo is like a spice plant. Yeah. Adobo is like a Filipino dish. What am I thinking? You're thinking of adobe houses which are made out of red clay or something. Yeah, they just substitute the red clay for poop. So you think that's why they're stealing each other's poop
Starting point is 00:14:41 is because they're making poop houses. I think there might even be... Is it adobe or is it pueblo?'t pueblo no i i i googled uh adobe and it was a building material from earth and organic uh material so i think my shit's from earth period and it's definitely organic oh pueblo architecture is a thing though and it's let's see this is exactly what our what our listeners tune in for i need to make of adobe yeah they're made of adobe so period i don't know what the hell why those north koreans be stealing poop again and i don't well i mean they're definitely not she's just lying That was one of her crazier takes.
Starting point is 00:15:25 What drug would they, if they were on a drug and stealing poop for a drug test, what do you think drug they would be on in North Korea, Jacques? Just weed. Doesn't weed grow in Asia like wildly? I know it grows wildly. You would be
Starting point is 00:15:41 Dracula for a second there. Y'all all this traveling got me slurring and my tummy hurt I know that's right slurring and tearing why is your stomach hurt what did you eat
Starting point is 00:15:59 you're eating like shit probably I have been eating bad lately I'm not even gonna try I'm not gonna but last night just you ever see a connection between your painful debilitating stomach cramps and what you eat yes but there's times that i'd eat there's times that i eat completely normally or don't even eat that much and i wake up the next day and i still have an extreme stomach pain so it's kind of like so it probably has so there's probably no connection at all.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Probably no correlation. Y'all are really mixing my words up. I'm agreeing with you. I think there's probably no correlation. I'm being bad at serious, Jacques. I'll take a lie detector test. Jacques and I are both wearing matching shirts
Starting point is 00:16:41 for everyone. These are shirts Jacques made. They're so beautiful. This is what I'm focusing on. The reason why I'm not running the show right now is because Paris texted me because the flyer dropped and Paris is like, you misspelled my name. And I'm like, did I? Really?
Starting point is 00:17:00 Let me see. On the flyer. It's just on Patreon does she does she prefer pe because i'm almost positive i spelled her last name correctly but maybe she asked her pe i'll i'll i'll ask her after the episode it's just out on patreon so she'll be fine um anyways she said it's no big deal and she like laughed at me I mean whatever I feel like an idiot shout out to Santiago who helped me design the fly
Starting point is 00:17:30 thank you Santiago it's amazing it looks so good Santiago is so talented and kind he did our header and our logo and so hot I've never seen it before, but I've never met someone named Santiago who isn't hot.
Starting point is 00:17:49 Yeah. Or even heard of one. No, he did our episode art. And he also does our graphics. He did our graphics for Heat Seekers, which will be back soon. I'm just focused on this live show, and then Heat Seekers will be back after that.
Starting point is 00:18:00 What the hell is going on in the world today, guys? We have to talk about something. How's that Megalopolis? Will you go autistic mode on Megalopolis? Oh, yeah. Okay, for sure. That's like the worst movie. Can you do 45 minutes on Megalopolis?
Starting point is 00:18:12 I could. I could. I literally will right now. Okay, it's the worst movie I've ever seen. I went in ready to have fun. I went in completely psyched for a good time. I saw it with my friends. with Amber and my friend David. And it was like, with an hour left in the movie,
Starting point is 00:18:35 I was floating the idea of leaving early. I was like, I could tell we all want to leave. How long is it? It's like two hours and 20 minutes. Too long. But we thought going in that it was three hours and 10 minutes long. And I really, if it was, I would not have been able to do it. Like, for real.
Starting point is 00:18:59 Okay, everything about that movie looks terrible. Every single person that is cast in that movie just seems like they cast them for the name and not for their capability. Well, the lead actress, God bless her heart, gives one of the top ten worst performances I've ever seen in a major motion picture. Who, Aubrey Plaza?
Starting point is 00:19:19 No, Natalie Emanuel. I don't even know who that is. I saw one trailer for that, and I was like, I am not watching this shit. It looks... I mean, I know it costs $200 billion to make. It does not look it. It looks like an Amazon
Starting point is 00:19:36 Prime original series. Amazon Prime original series or an Xbox game that teams play. It looks like shit. It looks like they had the budget of a one episode of doctor who like for real that's what it looks like i don't understand it well it looks exactly like the great gatsby the movie version the most recent one to come out that terrible one with leonardo dicaprio like it's just so glossy and like over done glossy
Starting point is 00:20:06 it's like I don't think it looks just like a plain like boring sterile empty rooms with no detail on that are green screened in and Carrick like flat lighting two characters talking with stupid dialogue just for way too long it's like a white noise what's it about can i tell you and he said he's been working on the film for yeah he's okay here's what it's about it's adam driver is an architect and he wants to build he has he invented megalon which is a substance which is a building material and it um it is like magical and he wants to build megalopolis which is a utopia perfect utopia and megalopolis is um the perfect utopian building society that he wants to build. It looks like the hive at Hudson Yards, but bigger.
Starting point is 00:21:11 And once he builds it, it fixes the world. And there are no problems anymore in the world. And there are conflicts. A few conflicts come up. He gets accused of statutory rape, but it turns out the girl was lying about her age. And also the video of him having sex with her was fake. Um,
Starting point is 00:21:33 stupid. And, but that, that plot line is three minutes long and ends like, like he find they like every single problem he runs into trying to build this thing is over within five minutes and never brought up again. It's incredible. I want to bring up some things about this movie.
Starting point is 00:21:53 He started the idea for the movie he came up with in 1977. He actively started developing the movie in 1983 by assembling notes for a future script. Preparations for the film around his initial concept came together in 1989 to be shot in rome but was postponed after coppola prioritized other projects to pay his debt to hollywood after a string of box office
Starting point is 00:22:18 disappointments well this is the biggest box office disappointment in your fucking life you ding dong shithead loser I would never your daughter does movies better than you that's pathetic and your reading was really good really amazing there I was kind of blown away by that
Starting point is 00:22:37 I'm not going to see the movie I don't give a shit about the movie it looks annoying it looks I don't want to see any movies with Shia Bluboff also it's kind of Shia Blah Bluff also. It's kind of, Shia kind of tears in it. He's an amazing actor. So annoying. So annoying.
Starting point is 00:22:52 No. John Semley had a really funny tweet about it that was like, oh, people who like Megalopolis, it's a brooding and complicated portrait of the artist's mind and how artists try to like you know build a legacy and um the problems they come with and like the tortures of genius and then it's like megalopolis the movie hello my name is luke precious stupid
Starting point is 00:23:20 with the dingbat world news Can I ask you some questions? Will this be his last movie? He's old as fuck, isn't he? Yeah. He doesn't have another $20 billion to make another piece of shit sci-fi movie. He doesn't have another $20 to waste. He's spent it all. He's going to have to move into
Starting point is 00:23:41 a government-owned retirement facility for elderly adults they his family won't even pay for his daughter's gonna be like you it's such a terrible movie i'm not waiting for your old folks home money is this movie's not gonna make any money no it it's it made two million dollars oh which so okay so it's going to be like... On like a $130 million budget. It's going to be one of the biggest failures of all time. Yes. Oh my God. That is so funny. Have you seen The Substance?
Starting point is 00:24:13 It is a little... It's a little sad, but no, I haven't seen The Substance yet. I haven't seen it yet. I want to go see it. It looks amazing. I know. Should we go see it? We should go see it.
Starting point is 00:24:22 Yeah. So, can I make one other little note that i'm reading um it was the first shot okay okay principal photography began on november 7th 2022 in favela georgia at trillius studios and concluded on may 11th 2023 filming also took place in atlanta it was the to be the first film shot on trillia Studios' SIAM stage, an LED virtual production volume, but due to budget constraints, the production pivoted to a less costly, more traditional green screen approach.
Starting point is 00:24:53 So you're exactly right about the green screen thing. It does look so cheap in this day and age to rely on it. There's one, that totally makes sense in tracks because there's one sequence that looks really good and you're like wow this actually looks like a really good movie but then like it's over so quickly it kind of looks like those like really involved like 70 cut tiktoks that like pakistani guys make about being modest you know yeah a darman video yeah it's exactly what it looks like yes i'm like i'd rather i would rather watch three hours of that and that those are literally
Starting point is 00:25:33 like the message of megalopolis is really like if we if someone were to build a utopia it would be so fucking utopian. It's like, what the fuck are you talking about? Can I also say that if you're looking under the filming subheader in the Wikipedia page about this article, there's an entire three-paragraph section on creative differences, alleged conflicts on sets,
Starting point is 00:26:03 as well as allegations of misconduct. So not only did he make a terrible movie, but he just, like, was an asshole to everyone around him. Yeah, he's kind of a shithead. His protege was a pedophile who went to jail for it, and then he got out and he was like,
Starting point is 00:26:20 welcome back, let's start making movies again. He would often just sit in his trailer for hours to end wouldn't talk to anybody was often smoking marijuana well there's your problem literally sounds like you that's what Robert Altman did so that's probably not a big deal
Starting point is 00:26:38 also if people are complaining about how they need to like grow a fucking spine that's not bad at all I feel like actors really whine about stuff that is pretty not bad and of course i mean there are terrible things that happen don't get me wrong they're actors that go through horrible things but yeah sometimes you hear people complaining about kind of literally having to work and i'm like okay yeah that was one of the one of the things on the set of Megalopolis was that, uh,
Starting point is 00:27:07 actress, like he told an actress, like he like put his hands on an actress or something and was like, you gotta be a little sexier in this scene. Oh yeah. Um, and she had to come forward and be like, actually that was fine.
Starting point is 00:27:21 I didn't really care about that. Yeah. So I don't know why everyone's yelling at him. Crew, crew members alleged that during the shoot coppola pulled women to sit on his lap and kissed female extras to get them in the mood in quotations i mean i can't think it's so funny that he would think like this ought to get him to horny yeah a weird old man starts touching exactly let me let me get this beautiful young woman and just sit naked in my lap, and that will make her feel absolutely comfortable.
Starting point is 00:27:50 It's like licking Aubrey Plaza's earlobe to get her in the mood. Yeah. I will say. It's not going to work. Terrible breath. His awful breath. Oh, can you imagine? I will say that whatever he's doing to them sounds bad,
Starting point is 00:28:06 but nothing could be worse than the way that Gus Van Sant treated Bjork on Dance. Dancer in the Dark. You have Lars Von Trier. Lars Von Trier. They're both just artsy three-hour movies. It's so funny to cancel Gus Van Sant for what you did to Bjork on the set of the house that Jack built
Starting point is 00:28:28 you should kill yourself you motherfucker why don't you make movies like Europa no more you gotta say you're making Infomaniac now okay let me just be honest I could do without both Lars Von Trier and the other one I love Lars von Trier and the other one.
Starting point is 00:28:45 I love Lars von Trier. And Gus Van Sant. Yeah, I misnamed. Can you name one Gus Van Sant movie? He's going to Google it. No Googling. No Googling. I'm not Googling.
Starting point is 00:28:57 That's also a Lars von Trier movie. Wait, guys. Okay, wait. Wait, hold on. Hold on. I love that you have a burning unrelenting hatred for one of these men but you don't know which one is which nor do you don't know what movie okay don't gozvan said made goodwill hunting jock
Starting point is 00:29:13 okay let me let me put it this way i have never seen a movie that made me sadder and more upset and seemed like a bigger waste of time than the Dancer in the Dark movie. It's a Lars von Trier movie. So you haven't seen it? I have seen it. Yeah, I would never watch it again. It's totally, it's a nightmare of a movie to watch. It's like a blind woman gets all of her money stolen from her
Starting point is 00:29:38 played by Bjork so she could, she's about to get her surgery so she doesn't have to have bad eyes in her daughter. Yes. A lot of stuff happens in it. Exactly. Apparently, though, you would like my own private Idaho.
Starting point is 00:29:51 I've never even seen that. I know what that movie is, though, but that's Ghost Van Sant. I thought you were like a huge River Phoenix fanatic. Yeah. No, I just like that.
Starting point is 00:30:00 And you haven't seen the one where he's gay with Keanu Reeves. That's what you like about it. You like that he died in the Viper Room. And you haven't seen the one where he's gay with Keanu Reeves? That's what you like about him? You like that he died in the Viper Room? I like that to River Feet. Okay, I'm going to be honest. I do like standing in the same place where someone has died.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Why? Especially famous people. Okay, that's why you like New Orleans so much. Why? Because everyone's died. Why? Why is that something you enjoy? You kind of feel their spirit. kind of like it's like wow
Starting point is 00:30:27 someone's life ended right here this is how many famous death sites have you stepped in well new orleans is like one giant famous yeah but they're not all famous famous people he seems to particularly love standing in the spot where celebrities died wait is that why you like going to the to the graveyard the cemetery because, is that why you like going to the cemetery? Because you think people die there? They walk to their grave and just die? No. I like the cemetery because it's peaceful.
Starting point is 00:30:54 I can't believe all these people died in the same spot. It's so convenient. No, you fucking... Okay, okay, okay. So, no, sorry, sorry. Just back up, back up, back up, back up, back up. I want to just reestablish that you love to sit or stand in the spot where famous people have died. How many times have you done this, and what were those experiences like?
Starting point is 00:31:17 Can I get first the River Phoenix experience? What did you feel? So I was already on a different plane of existence because i was seeing ag cook live and it was the day before show pig and it um it was just a big day and there was this moment where i was just outside hanging out alone for a second smoking a cigarette after the show and i just like was standing on next to the building. And then I dropped my cigarette on accident. It fell on my hand and where it landed.
Starting point is 00:31:48 I was like, Oh my God, this is exactly where fucking rivers Phoenix died in the doorway of the Viper room. Why is that significant at all? That you dropped a cigarette. I've just felt like it was like, I'm standing like,
Starting point is 00:32:03 I dropped my cigarette it was just like an indicator I have another example this guy's not famous but the guy who used to own this convenience store slash Cajun food restaurant in my neighborhood
Starting point is 00:32:19 died in the middle aisle of the store of his own store and I like to walk into the middle aisle of the store. Of his own store. Of his own store. And I like to walk into the middle aisle and stand there for a second. How did he die? Sudden heart attack on the floor. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:35 So he lied down on the floor already. He was already on the floor. Did you feel anything? Any spirit? Any connection to another world or what i feel the eerie left don't make it up be honest be honest i'm being i'm being honest right now fuck you okay good lord god you're not being honest he's trying to think about it i'm trying to about it yeah sorry i had to use my
Starting point is 00:33:05 brain for once you dumb bitch sorry i'm sorry you owned him you bought it for interrupting sorry i'm trying to use my brain for once sorry you don't sorry you don't know what i'm doing when i'm thinking ben but i know i don't do it often but i was thinking not lying sorry i'm using my brain for once in my goddamn life you dumb dumbass. So any other death sites you've stood in? Any other death sites you really want to visit? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:32 The one death site you are pining to go to. This is a good question. Taj Mahal? Well, I guess he didn't die there. What? Did they build?
Starting point is 00:33:50 Never mind. No. The Taj Mahal is just one big grave, right? Yeah. Who died? It was like a Maharaja or something, and he built it after his wife died because he was like,
Starting point is 00:34:04 I love my wife so much and then he died and then they both got buried under it I think period um but I guess you at the Toshimahall would be amazing but it's not really the same thing that's more of a mausoleum I think that's kind of like going
Starting point is 00:34:19 to a cemetery I'm speaking it seems like your angle here is you like to be at the specific place where someone died, not where they were buried and not, you know where I, where I would go?
Starting point is 00:34:31 Hmm. I would go to the place where if I could snap my fingers and be there instantly, I would go to the place that Blackbeard died so that I could find his treasure.
Starting point is 00:34:46 Because I would appear there and then his treasure would be right there and I would just gather it all up. And then I would take it and go and spend it wherever I want. CEOs, CEOs, step your game up. You'll never think like Hassadini. You'll never think like that, you fucking piece of shit.
Starting point is 00:35:03 And that's when you'll be broke. A TikTok of like a finance bro saying this I will never the most convoluted hypothetical that has no context for it a shirt that's too tight and like teeth that are too white and he's like I'm telling you if I could go anywhere
Starting point is 00:35:22 that someone died I'm choosing Blackbeard's grave, man. Y'all are fucking nuts. Y'all are always trying to connect to the pirate. Or that guy that jumped out of the plane with all that money. DB Cooper. So cool.
Starting point is 00:35:37 I love the incident site. This is the coolest thing. DB Cooper dies and then years later HBO's like, okay, we think we know who did it. Six different people come forward and they're all the families and they're like, I was,
Starting point is 00:35:52 I know who DB Cooper was. It was my daddy. And it's like all these people who believe that their dad is DB Cooper. Yeah. There's no evidence. Six people with deadbeat dads
Starting point is 00:36:01 who are all like, son, I'm DB Cooper. Just to try and seem cool i love db cooper the db cooper is one of the um what do you think about the pyramids who built the pyramids the ancient egyptians have you ever um but i mean i have my own theories on i'm just curious what your theories on it might be well i, I never was one to say aliens and had to do with the pyramids.
Starting point is 00:36:28 But the fact that they are aligned with the exact star, don't the tips point to the stars in some very specific way that's like... Yeah, something like that. Keep going. And then also, what about the pyramid in Antarctica? What about the pyramid in Antarctica what about the pyramid in Antarctica is there a pyramid there
Starting point is 00:36:47 yeah have y'all never seen the y'all never heard about the pyramid in Antarctica no I've heard of it see Ben's making that really dumb bitch face where he where he's got to pick up his sleeve fuck you I'm just thinking
Starting point is 00:37:01 and then he tries to throw southern voice back in my face as if it's gonna no I'm just thinking. Fuck you. I'm just thinking. And then he tries to throw Southern voice back in my face as if it's going to... No, I'm aware of the pyramid in Antarctica. There's also a buried pyramid in Bosnia. A lot of people just say it's just a mountain, but conspiracy theorists do believe it's a pyramid. I'm looking at a picture of it and it looks just like... I think it's just a formation. People say it's a pyramid.
Starting point is 00:37:27 But there are massive alignments with pyramids throughout the world that match up with certain constellations. Like pyramids in Mexico, the pyramids of Giza, pyramids in what's now Serbia, I think, all kind of line up with constellations, I believe is what you're referencing, Jock. I don't know. I think the Antarctica one is a site of a lot of speculation.
Starting point is 00:37:52 And now you're both totally lost on pyramid, Google. I think... Actually, it does look a lot like a pyramid. Really? Archaeologist, geologist, Paul Hinrich of Louisiana State University has said... state university has well he's immediately not i'm not gonna believe what louisiana state university was like lsu it's an alligator literally a guy with a spittoon and a washboard talking about the beer back it up back it up
Starting point is 00:38:21 i'm sorry but louis you lsu is an incredible college it is it is it up. I'm sorry, but LSU is an incredible college. It is a renowned college. I'm just joking. So I trust this word. Anyway, as I was saying, archaeologist, geologist Paul Henrique of Louisiana State University has said that such formations are common
Starting point is 00:38:39 throughout the world. For example, the so-called Russian Twin Pyramids in Vladivostok, and there are many in the nearby region. I don't know. You didn't finish reading that before you started reading it. I did. I'm curious, how do you think the pyramids were built?
Starting point is 00:38:58 Wait, do you guys think Louis C.K., do you think Louis C.K., the name Louis is short for Louisiana, and his name is Louisiana C.K.? Stop. Yes, I believe that. Yeah. I know a family in Lafayette and one of their children's name is Lafayette
Starting point is 00:39:14 and the other child's name is Louisiana. That's really cool. Ben, is a police car pulling into your apartment right now? Look, there's nothing I can do about it. It is incredibly annoying. Between the police and the typographer on this episode, I'm going to have an explosion. It's the typographer.
Starting point is 00:39:34 Yeah, what are you talking about? When Ben was just clicking. Stenographer. Stenographer, bitch. Why can't it be a typographer? Typographer would be like someone who makes maps. A graphic designer. Secretary, then.
Starting point is 00:39:49 You do have that kind of vibe. Yeah, you're like Maggie Gyllenhaal. I do have a secretary vibe. Oh my god, listen to how good this sounds. Secretary Mora. Yeah, but that's more like presidential secretary. What would you be secretary of?
Starting point is 00:40:04 Would you be mad? Would you be mad if you had to do that? Be secretary of something in the United States government? Secretary of the United States. Secretary of State. I wouldn't mind. I would definitely be one of the craziest secretaries I've ever had, and I'd probably be fired immediately for statements on Israel.
Starting point is 00:40:19 What do you think, Jacques, what do you think Secretary of State does? They come up with new states. They bring coffee to the president. They make appointments. Wait, what do you think the Secretary of State does? I thought it had to do with, like, guns or something. Or, like, military. You got it.
Starting point is 00:40:41 Yeah. I never know what is the truth or what's real when y'all say, yep, that's it. If I say it, it's the truth. You didn't. What do you think about the Huk Tua girl? Maybe possibly after she's interviewed all these politicians from like renegade nations, rogue nations. What do you think about her possibly getting to interview Kim Jong-un that's on the table
Starting point is 00:41:06 for Hakutou? Yeah. Because she's positioning herself as like being like a kind of like renegade journalist who's interviewing people that the nation media
Starting point is 00:41:14 Yeah, she's already talked to his ambassador. She's talking to Putin. Like she's talking to, she's refused to meet with Zelensky. She's, you know, Yeah, she talked to,
Starting point is 00:41:24 she talked to Kim Jong-un's ambassador. And the thing is, she went uncommonly light on him. So the rumor is that she's using that as kind of a trap to get Kim Jong-un to give her an interview. Yeah, so that she can really go tear him a new one.
Starting point is 00:41:47 Okay, I'm also, what does Kim Jong-un even have to say? I mean, what does Hak Tua have to say? I mean, right? Yeah, the only thing I ever liked that the Hak Tua girl said is she's like, you know that song about New York, concrete dream, wet tomato no she's literally like incredibly stupid um i'm just happy that people are stupid are getting in power that's that's my i mean that's my goal for the world you two need to get on a show together here let me let
Starting point is 00:42:21 me talk to her right now. Hawk Tua? Yes! For everyone at home, Jacques just held up a mirror to his own face. I've been Hawk Tua this whole time. Should we get in some calls? Yeah, let's help our beautiful listener. We have not done calls in a while, so I think it's
Starting point is 00:42:41 probably about time we get to them. I'm ready to listen to the people's calls. Well, that's amazing. But I really wish we could call people. I... You say this every single time and then it starts an argument between you. Can you pitch me on who you want to call?
Starting point is 00:42:58 I'm not calling our listeners. Ben, you forgot. Okay, Ben, you're forgetting that this happens every single time we do calls, and it starts an argument because Jacques says, I would like to call businesses and do prank calls, and then you say, that's illegal. I'm not going to do that. That's not illegal.
Starting point is 00:43:14 This is just the conversation. It doesn't always happen. Yeah, I wasn't even going to talk about pranking. This is what happened last time. It doesn't happen every time. But Jacques, I am just curious who you want to call because that doesn't can you can you have a more my father an idea okay we're not calling your dad okay well just as the first person that came out the top of my head okay but um yeah i just you just want to place a call you have no
Starting point is 00:43:39 further idea of what you want to do or who you want to call. How about I call every single place that I've ever worked and see if they'll hire me back. That might be a good idea for an independent episode. Let's get to our first call here. I won't do that on an independent. Why? I don't want to. That sounds boring. Period.
Starting point is 00:44:00 That's amazing. Ben, if you're not doing the work, I don't want to do it. Shut the fuck up, bitch. I think it's a good idea for an independent episode. Oh, that's amazing. Never mind. Ben, if you're not doing the work, I don't want to do it. Shut the fuck up, bitch. Okay, just place a good idea for an independent episode. Let's get to our first call here. It's a 58-year-old hairdresser and mother of two real kids. We love you, Jamie.
Starting point is 00:44:18 How y'all doing? We're great. Miss you guys. We miss you, too. Love listening to you. Ben, oh my God, I love hearing how your dad is still like ready for your little baby nephew to slay with the ladies. It's so cute. But I need to ask your advice on another thing.
Starting point is 00:44:36 After I had my first baby, Kelly, daughter of the pod, sister of the pod, I had a friend of mine come visit me in the hospital after i just birthed this child and the first thing that she said to me and my husband looked at my husband and said wow she's adorable she has some great dsl standing for oh my god sucking lips and my husband father of the pod looked looked like he was going to smack her. Well, yeah. But he didn't, and she left, thank God. So just give me your thoughts on that.
Starting point is 00:45:10 Hessa, beautiful Hessa, I love you. I miss Columbo. The little Columbo for me. And Jacques, I'm so glad you got those teeth pulled. And we can see those gorgeous dimples. You look so healthy and handsome. Love you all. Bye-bye.
Starting point is 00:45:22 Thank you so much, Jamie. Our best fan Jamie our best fan also she sounds 21 like her she does sound very young yeah very she sounds two years old you have a beautiful youthful energy to you and I I send you all the love in the
Starting point is 00:45:37 world that my heart can give at this exact moment when you listen to this wow Jamie and I'm sending you a kiss so what do I think about my uncle Columbo is here so he can talk he can talk a little bit he's in my apartment
Starting point is 00:45:52 what do I think about your who was it again it's a friend of yours who called a literal infant who's like one hour old reference to their DSLs I think that's insane it's like absolutely crazy but you know sometimes you get a little overwhelmed in certain situations and you just say something to try to make a joke and sometimes you say the worst thing you could
Starting point is 00:46:19 possibly say because you're feeling overwhelmed or you know, out of place or whatever it may be. It's still an insane thing to say. I hope she's still your friend. That's a really crazy thing to say. I'm wondering what kind of probably the most inappropriate thing I've ever heard someone say to a new person. It's up there. Yeah, it's up there.
Starting point is 00:46:39 It would be really crazy if this friend was really normal and vanilla other than this one moment. This is by far the craziest thing she had ever said. I'm wondering, did her eyes roll back in her head, and did she say it in a demonic voice, and then go back to normal and be a little confused? She may have been possessed.
Starting point is 00:46:59 Yeah. Maybe she didn't know what DSLs were. A really good prank is to lie to your parents about certain acronyms and tell them they mean something else so then they go out into the world and say that yes absolutely I DSL could have been a daddy
Starting point is 00:47:16 smile I can't try to think of something else daddy smooching lips yes exactly that should be the name Daddy smooching lips. Yes, exactly. Exactly. That should be the name of the episode. People will be so
Starting point is 00:47:30 interested. She's got some great DSLs. The guy who wrote the song Hungry Eyes comes out with a single 30 years later and it's called Daddy Sucking Lips. Wait, what did you say? Daddy Sucking Lips or wait what did you say?
Starting point is 00:47:46 Daddy Sucking Lips Period Period That's totally normal Oh my god It's like literally just switching out Daddy and Dick It's the same acronym
Starting point is 00:48:03 Also It's even worse almost but diddy ruined the word daddy and i can't hear daddy what the hell are you talking no listen were you were you using daddy frequently before diddy no no not really but like, so let me like Diddy and all these like alleged like, well, I mean, it's all true. It's got to be. But all the instances of him being a creep. Yeah, I agree that it's definitely true. It's all true.
Starting point is 00:48:36 But the instances of him like being a creep all have like one repeating details that he keeps calling himself daddy and he does it in interviews to like just talking to him about himself in relationship it's been a huge part of his brand for a while yeah but like but just just but then it takes a different meeting when you're in a well i've always hated the term dad i don't like daddy at all well the thing is jock do you like daddy already has like a crazy sexual like is used for weird in weird sexual i mean that is one of the situations in which it should be used is diddy being a freak that's yeah kind of the problem no i think i think it was i think it was fine to have to do daddy sex stuff as long as it wasn't diddy related and now that diddy is doing the daddy sex no one wants to have daddy sex because diddy did it do you call your
Starting point is 00:49:31 dad that was like a tongue twister that was a tongue twister do you call your father daddy absolutely not that is like you've never called him daddy no not since diddy not since this diddy stuff i had to stop y'all i hate when the Not since this Diddy stuff. I had to stop, y'all. I hate when the Daddy Diddy stuff came out because I had to stop calling my daddy daddy and I did not like that. Neither did my daddy. Once Diddy did it, daddy dollars.
Starting point is 00:49:54 Once Diddy did it, daddy didn't do it. And I was so mad for my daddy. And we done had none of that Diddy didn't do it, did it. I had to shut my daddy sucking lips around him now. I had to shut my daddy sucking lips around him now. Unless you are going to fuck me, be the person inserting something inside of me, you can't call yourself daddy. You're talking to our 58-year-old mother of three hairdresser,
Starting point is 00:50:17 and you're talking about getting fucked. She can handle it. She talked about dick lips before. She's fucked. Also, I just want to know if you're keeping this friend. I'm kind of concerned for your safety. I imagine they're still friends. Because this is for one of her adult children,
Starting point is 00:50:34 who I made shirts for that said Sister of the Pod and Mother of the Pod. Oh. For their daughter's birthday. She's my mother-in-law. Yeah. I don't know what law. She's your mother-in-law? Yeah, I don't know what law makes Jamie my mother-in-law.
Starting point is 00:50:50 She does have a daughter, but Jamie, I don't let your daughter, do not let your daughter get involved with the Gonsolin. Do not let your daughter get involved with the Gonsolin. Oh, my God. Okay, side note. Jamie, actually, maybe you should have an arranged marriage for your daughter and me. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:51:10 I mean... Jamie, don't. Jamie, don't listen to him. Please, don't listen to him. Actually, just throwing this out there, if anyone wants to arrange me in a marriage, just DM me. I'm just curious what the options are. I personally would love an arranged
Starting point is 00:51:26 marriage as well. I think that'd be really sick. Yeah, I'll do one too. Why don't we arrange each other's marriages? Hesse can arrange mine. I'll arrange Jock's. Jock can arrange not mine. Certainly not mine. No, Jock, you are not allowed to arrange my marriage.
Starting point is 00:51:42 You're not allowed. We'll Google image search what we think the person would look like. Who would you sell me off to? Describe the man you would sell me off to. A sultan. Okay. A rich
Starting point is 00:51:57 Arab sultan who is a royal billionaire. You can arrange my marriage then. I would love to marry a billionaire I would marry you Wait the only catch is that You have to wear like basically like a prince Not the musician
Starting point is 00:52:13 But like royalty a prince costume All the time I would love that Actually I'm going to stop really quickly To say that Ben loves to dress up as only Two things a prince or a pirate. He sticks with those two costumes every fucking year. So those are just the last two costumes you've seen me in.
Starting point is 00:52:33 It's not something I've been doing for my lifetime. You did that. No, but I am suspicious that you do dress up like a pirate a lot. It's been all. I've done pirate literally once, guys. And I've done prince literally once guys and I've done prince literally once uh uh
Starting point is 00:52:47 uh uh stop stop run the track back because that's a lie Ben did it without three separate times in New Orleans
Starting point is 00:52:53 just the last trip as a pirate my uncle wants to say something yeah that's I had one album for the Halloween festivities
Starting point is 00:53:00 hello hi Columbo good to see you hello Jacques nice to see you what's up hi Jamie I would say my beautiful Ibo. Good to see you. Hello, Jacques. Nice to see you. What's up? Hi, Jamie. Hello, my beautiful...
Starting point is 00:53:08 I would say great to see you. Hey, come on, be nice. Look at those DSLs on Columbo. I was coming over here. I'd like to use my niece's shower because she's got... Well, it's not that it's better than my shower, but my shower at... Well, my shower at home, it's nice. It's got actually a little bit, slightly better water
Starting point is 00:53:28 pressure, but something about this shower, it's got the heat, you know, it gets really hot, and she's got the really fancy shampoo that I really like using. She doesn't like when I use it, so don't tell her. Don't tell Hesha that I'm using the shampoo, but I'm also using
Starting point is 00:53:44 this fancy conditioner, and it's not even conditioner. It's called hair treatment or something. I don't know. You got to leave it in for like 10 minutes, and you can't use it too much. The hair becomes very, you know, very soft. I don't know if you guys can see,
Starting point is 00:54:00 but my hair looks like, it looks kind of like Lord Farquaad from the Shrek movie. Columbo, I'm kind of worried that you're... But also there's some other stuff. There's a body scrub in there. Is there an investigation of some sort? I'm kind of worried. I just came in to say...
Starting point is 00:54:20 Kind of dumb as fuck. You seem to not care about the case. Columbo, aren't you kind of worried it seems like you're trying you're getting yasified by your niece i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry i'd love colombo i just we have some drama what he did last time i don't i'm sorry but i don't really like you gotta get over that you gotta get over that i'm sorry it was really it was shocking and it was well i'm gonna go i'll talk to you guys later. Thank God I'm done with that
Starting point is 00:54:48 doink. Thank you very much. Jamie, we love you, queen. Bye, Uncle Columbo. Bye, Columbo. I don't like that guy because I'm a Matlock guy myself. More of a... If you were related...
Starting point is 00:55:03 Oh my God, he came back. He came back. That fucker. That fuck, Matt Locke. He's not fit to suck the shit out of my asshole. I don't know... Columbo, that is disgusting. Why would you say that?
Starting point is 00:55:19 I'm sorry. It doesn't even sound like something he would say. He must really hate Matt Locke. He stormed out. Do you think Columbo. He must really hate Matlock. Wait, Columbo. He stormed out. He stormed out. Do you think Columbo would have sex with the new Matlock? Kathy Bates?
Starting point is 00:55:31 Yes. Yes, for sure. Let's get to our next call. Jamie, thank you for calling in. We love you. Love you, Jamie. You're my favorite ever. I'm sending you all my sweet energy.
Starting point is 00:55:42 We love you. You truly are the mother of the podcast. All right. I want to see you in the boa. What? She got a boa from me. A vintage boa. I want to see how the boa looks. Hi, Seeking's Arrangements.
Starting point is 00:55:58 Hello. Okay, second time caller, long time listener. I just wanted to ask if you had any names for the podcast way back in the day that didn't make it and what those names were.
Starting point is 00:56:15 Anyway, bye. We were going to call it Hitler's Baby. We were going to call it Hitler Time. That was Jock's original podcast that I told him he couldn't release. This is the only name for the show that I ever had.
Starting point is 00:56:31 Came up with it and it was perfect from the jump. This might be a good opportunity to talk about the other possible names that you had for the election live show. Okay, I'm very good at coming up with names for stuff and I'm really good at branding.
Starting point is 00:56:45 My favorite was Sm poles smoke it was called pole smokers which is you're butchering the pun pole smokers it was a pun of the of the term pole smokers p-o-l-e smokers because we all suck dick but it was spelled p-o-l-L smokers the only problem with that is that poll smokers as a term isn't even that well
Starting point is 00:57:08 known or used it just sounds hot it sounds like a porn I might watch on the porno websites also we're not really wonks
Starting point is 00:57:17 and not doing serious political coverage so poll a pun on poll didn't make sense what's a wonk I really like what we use which is
Starting point is 00:57:25 electile dysfunction i i think that one's great funny because i was like that i was like that's like the dumbest one but it makes sense because it is the most general and does yeah all the i really liked it too plus it gave us um a really good visual motif for the um for the poster of the Also my brilliant brain coming up with the hotel dysfunction curving down like a flaccid penis. The other one was Queer and Loathing, which I don't like
Starting point is 00:57:55 the reference. I hated that title. Yeah, a little boomer. Yeah. It's a little like But you know what you had to spitball some ideas yeah I remember when like the Fear and Loathing
Starting point is 00:58:11 movie was cool yeah I was like drinking cough syrup in high school and it was like completely retarded when I was thought that stuff was cool which you know it's right of passage oh this person has a question about it has some
Starting point is 00:58:25 fun parts in the movie this person has a question about long legs which i have seen yeah oh i've seen it i haven't seen it hi thank you so much okay so today i just saw you're welcome i thank you so much it's such a funny way to start the call you are welcome queen of course this is like a horror movie um nicholas cage producer star again absolutely worst thing i've ever seen in my entire life and i feel like i'm crazy i hang out with a bunch of like just normal not in a queer vibe kind of community you know and it really i don't know to me it felt like something that maybe like a vindictive lesbian would write about a trans woman okay i don't know if i'm reading heavily deep honestly one of the most boring horror movies i've ever seen in my life very weird i don't know
Starting point is 00:59:22 what they were trying to get across i I'm sorry I'm going so long. But would love to get your opinion on Long Legs starring Nicolas Cage as a woman. Everyone said it was a man. Like everyone said Nicolas Cage was playing a man. In my heart of hearts, that was a weird old woman.
Starting point is 00:59:39 I don't know. It's a crazy movie. Absolutely fucked up movie. Want to know your opinion if you got it. Don't misgender. I'll let you take the... Can I say one sentence about it? The title sucks. You think the title sucks?
Starting point is 00:59:55 I think the title is bad enough to not want to watch the entire movie. I think it's a pretty mid. It's kind of like the dumbest it's like a dumb guy's idea of like a smart horror movie kind of but it's kind of
Starting point is 01:00:11 fun in that way I think a little bit it is kind of slow and boring I think like I don't know I think it's really funny to see like Nicolas Cage looking and dressing like a total fucking freak and be like, oh, so that's a
Starting point is 01:00:27 trans woman to you? I didn't get that part either. Even though no one calls him a trans woman. I didn't get that part either. I saw a lot of discourse about it being like calling Longleat transphobic. And I'm like, I think this is just a freak guys. I don't think, I don't know. There doesn't
Starting point is 01:00:43 seem to be a lot of evidence or intentionality around this being a person of gender i think this is just a weird freaky person it's possible for a guy to dress like androgynously and like yeah and look like a total weirdo i think it's i think it's because of the parallels with Silence of the Lambs that people were like, because people were like, okay, cross dresser, okay, trans, but I'm like, that's such a big leap to me. And the director's dad
Starting point is 01:01:13 is Anthony Perkins, who's famously in the closet, gay guy, who played the guy in Psych who the the og woman the og man dressing up like a woman to kill people yeah does he play multiple characters in the movie well nicholas cage who yeah no no it's just one i thought i thought the movie was totally okay. The one thing I didn't like
Starting point is 01:01:45 about it is supernatural elements. It's reliance on Satan for why these things are happening. I kind of really hate that in movies because I'm like it's just not interesting to me.
Starting point is 01:02:01 I like movies that are more about deeply human and realistic motivations and not about like weird satanic you know possession yeah I get what you mean we all have our little yeah it's just a personal
Starting point is 01:02:18 thing that I'm like I stop caring because I'm like oh well this is fake and it's like it is like a very stupid like I just like my investment is gone because I'm like oh well this is fake and it's like it is like a very stupid like I just like I my investment is gone because I kind of am more I'm more drawn to like what would actually make a person
Starting point is 01:02:33 do that you know the more practical reasons why someone would look like that and murder people and all that but this is overall this totally okay movie, whatever. I thought Nicolas Cage was great, and I did like how freaky and scary he looked in it.
Starting point is 01:02:51 I don't even, I've not even seen the movie, but I'm just sure it's just like a response of Neon trying to keep up with A24 horror movies coming out left and right and them topping everything. Yeah, I don't know. You mean A24 topping everything? A24's topping everything and Neon isn't able to
Starting point is 01:03:12 release it. What was the last good A24 movie that you remember seeing? Bodies, Bodies, Bodies to watch for recently. That was one year ago. That was like two years ago. Yeah, that was like two years ago. Yeah, that was like two years ago. Okay,
Starting point is 01:03:28 mid-summer, but I guess that was a while back. That was like five years ago, Sean. That was like five or six years ago. Okay, but you have to admit that A24 has made a new standard for arthouse horror movies. I think they've lowered the standard for arthouse horror movies.
Starting point is 01:03:44 I see what you mean. They've opened up the market. horror movies i think they've lowered the standard for art house horror movies and i guess yeah i see what you mean they've opened up the market i mean they are the premier like people to to start getting all of these like you know quote unquote highbrow horror movies out to market to a wider market and then of course someone like neon is going to start following in their path it doesn't mean that like they shouldn't that's just how the industry works like why wouldn't they you know make these more highbrow horror movies it's what people want to see also unlike a24 neon makes other types of movies because like a24 was doing a thing for a while where even if it wasn't a horror movie the commercial would make it look like one and it would be marketed like
Starting point is 01:04:26 one, like that movie lamb, which they marketed like a horror movie, but it's just not at all. I forgot about that movie. But wait, it wasn't. It wasn't.
Starting point is 01:04:36 That was, that was literally like a parody. It was not a horror movie. It was a parody of an A24 movie. I was like, this shit is so stupid. I remember seeing it in theaters. Cause I was like, wow, this looks like so freaky and kooky and then i was like okay that's like the
Starting point is 01:04:50 gayest shit i've ever seen in my fucking life it was so funny it's like a joke someone would make about it no it's so it's so stupid it's like it's so disrespectful to the audience because it's like oh you guys will think that this is deep and intellectual and compelling simply because these people are like some kind of scandinavian and there's yeah it's a deeply under stimulating movie which means that your brain must fill in so much like intellectualism and intentionality here and it's like oh this is stupid sorry this is just dumb it's like an hour and a half long like movie that should be 10 minutes long literally be the SNL skit
Starting point is 01:05:32 also though it's great to be able to watch something that's not like an A24 movie where it doesn't require your brain to do anything and you just feel like it's just done it's over like knocked up or like waiting or like one of those kind of like comedy movies that just is not gonna hurt your feelings like an 824 i fucking hate
Starting point is 01:05:51 knocked up because i hate but let me tell you why it's you don't like it's because i fucking hate the judd apatow movies where it's like oh like haha this movie is so funny but then after a while it's like actually this movie is fucking dead serious there's nothing funny about what's going on this is real as fuck I actually love that thing about
Starting point is 01:06:17 I would rather watch a funny movie I hate what he did to comedy movies I'm sorry I love what he did to comedy movies I I'm sorry. I love what he did to comedy movies. I love a lot of Jed Epitone movies. I hated when they were funny the whole time throughout the movie. I'm going to even go to embarrass myself
Starting point is 01:06:34 to say that I enjoyed the movie Trainwreck. I thought it was funny. I laughed a lot. Is that the one where Amy Schumer swaps bodies? Is that him? No, that's I Feel Pretty. Okay, Jed and I were chitting on I Feel Pretty
Starting point is 01:06:46 the other day. I need to watch Trainwreck. Come watch Trainwreck with me and Jen. I love watching the worst Amy Schumer
Starting point is 01:06:54 movies with her. Yeah, Trainwreck is Amy Schumer and LeBron James. Okay, period. She's such a And her dad is Colin Quinn
Starting point is 01:07:05 period let's do another call and then wrap up let's see what this one is like uh oh Chapel Rowan fans cover your ears Jen and I did talk about Chapel Rowan a lot yesterday as well but we're going back into it
Starting point is 01:07:21 and fake lesbian such a tired critique let's hear what this person has to say Back into it. Fake lesbian. Such a tired critique. Let's hear what this person has to say. Hi, Mr. and Mrs. Derangement. So I am a doll from the Midwest, and lately I've been fabricating lies like fake websites to spread lies about Chapel Roan being problematic
Starting point is 01:07:43 to all of the people I know and using my influence on the internet. Okay, kind of taking a page out of our book when we were trying to get someone to fabricate rumors about Megan Trainor saying the N-word. Which, yeah, we need to bring it back. Which she did do, everyone, by the way. Someone's got to take her out.
Starting point is 01:08:02 She called her child with the freaky glasses the N-word. It's like, why would you say that to a child? I totally forgot about that. I mean, so did Madonna, and she even went to upload the picture to Instagram and put
Starting point is 01:08:17 hashtag my N-word with an A. Period. That was so crazy. Ben just froze, and it was the perfect timing because why why you just you were stuck on a dumb
Starting point is 01:08:33 face um no it was the perfect timing because Jacques Jacques said something and then immediately just dead silence and total not movement for me Mia Farrow did the same
Starting point is 01:08:43 thing famously which she posted a screenshot of her iPhone yeah my Mia Farrow did the same thing famously when she posted a screenshot of her iPhone. Mia Farrow's black daughter. Happy birthday to my daughter. Totally Mia Farrow's black daughter. Wait, what did she... I don't understand. What did she do?
Starting point is 01:08:57 It was a screenshot. She posted a picture on Instagram. She posted a picture on Instagram and said, Happy birthday to my beautiful daughter. Love you. And it's a picture of her daughter, but it's a screenshot of a picture of her and her daughter
Starting point is 01:09:08 on Google Images. Google search. Yeah, and you can see the Google search she used to find the picture, and it's Mia Farrow Black Daughter. It's like, did you forget your daughter's name? Like, I don't understand that search term at all because surely she has a first name that is Google-able.
Starting point is 01:09:28 Further evidence that Woody's innocent. You know what I mean? Period. And with that, let's keep listening to the call. Cancel her. Is that problematic to tear down a young queer woman? I think it's fun, personally. I think it's fun and funny.
Starting point is 01:09:44 Thank you, guys. Thanks for being funny. Bye. We love you. What a pleasant Midwestern doll. That was a while ago. That was July. Oh, yeah. These are old calls. So we kind of copied her to when we
Starting point is 01:10:01 I mean, we've all been trying to fake cancel people for a long time, but... What do we think about the ethics of this here? I think it's totally fine. I think it's fine. I also think... You're good at this.
Starting point is 01:10:18 Yeah, I'm on Team Chapel Row now. What? Yeah, I mean, I have been for the past few times we've talked about her. You're conforming to the most pathetic form of a basic lesbian. That's actually what you're doing.
Starting point is 01:10:34 You're conforming to being antagonistic to a lesbian simply because she's a lesbian who is more famous and popular and beloved than you. You're tearing down a woman for no reason. No, I'm tearing down a cis woman for a reason because she's not lesbian. The reason you hate her
Starting point is 01:10:49 is because you think she's an industry plant, which is totally, completely, factually wrong. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. The reason I hate her is because I think her music is fucking garbage. I think her lyrics are god-awful terrible. I think her lyrics are god-awful terrible. I think her complete visual aesthetic is the worst garbage compilation
Starting point is 01:11:09 of RuPaul's Drag Race season three outfits. They're so fucking retarded. I fucking hate them. I'm so tired. Jesus Christ. If I ever have to hear that pretty pink chapel
Starting point is 01:11:26 you are such a crotch you're such a crotch old boomer also go in the comments of this episode and say if you would like us to stop talking about Chapel Rowan and ask Jock why because it's this is maybe the sixth or seventh time
Starting point is 01:11:43 exactly Ben has asked Jock that Ben has asked Jock, that Ben has asked Jock, like, why don't you like her? Why don't you like her? I'm just seeing if he's changing or updating his opinion in any way, and he absolutely has not. If anything, I dislike her more now, and I have a list of reasons that are more built in reality.
Starting point is 01:12:07 Okay, yeah. Here's the biggest one. She. No more. No. No. Guys, thank you for listening. Please buy tickets to our live show.
Starting point is 01:12:14 I have to plug something. So you better not hang up or I'm going to be furious. Guys, thank you for listening. You muted him. That's so funny. Period, Hessa. Period. Yes. Thank you, queen. Thank you so much, Jacques. guys thanks you for listening thank you for coming period period yes thank you thank you so much Jacques I'll unmute you before the end so you can plug
Starting point is 01:12:31 the live so you can plug what you need to plug he's so bad now that Jacques is silent let me do this here the first and most important plug of the day is everyone go buy Matt Christman's book. It's available on the Chapo store. We'll get the links in there. He released a book on the Spanish Civil War.
Starting point is 01:12:58 Go buy it. Go check it out. Looks like it's a beautiful book. Well made. It's going to be a hitter. It's going to be a banger. One of my history friends and for our live show Jock if you want to do a bunch of plugs
Starting point is 01:13:11 you can but like I've always told you when you do a plug you need to send me the link yourself if you want it to be included so you will have to send me the links for anything you want to plug well you'll have to be looking at I will let you know as soon as they, I know where they're selling it.
Starting point is 01:13:29 But regardless, this is my plugs. Antics Magazine just released their first issue. It's going to be all over New York. It's got articles featuring, this is Lorelei, dive cursive and my friends Yahweh nail gun go check out the antics magazine
Starting point is 01:13:51 first issue I will put some links to some places that it's being distributed in New York as well as in New Orleans Lafayette and Denver I am in charge of it antics magazine Southern distribution yeah in denver i am in charge of an antics magazine southern distribution yeah yeah um on okay on top of that from right now till october 12th i will have all of my brand
Starting point is 01:14:16 sweet revenge dirty fantasy uh on display and for sale at bond hardware in williamsburg if you want to go check out or if you ever wanted to get some of my clothes and go see them in person, just go down to Bond Hardware in Williamsburg. They also have the most beautiful jewelry that is the coolest shit ever. I just got a new earring
Starting point is 01:14:39 and I never change out my earring. Period. Beautiful. All right. Thanks for listening, everyone. And we'll talk soon. Bye-bye. And buy tickets for our live show.
Starting point is 01:14:47 Yeah. And buy tickets for our live show. And I hate Chapel Row. Sunlight Shady Nii nga taa shen ti shen ti yu kake komuto

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