Seeking Derangements - SD 360- The Gay List pt. 16 w/ Chloe Cherry

Episode Date: November 24, 2024

Today Chloe Cherry joins us to crack open the Gay List once again. Before that we discuss her favorite sandwiches, her budding DJ career, and test her gaydar. Plus Jacques tells her about his health problems and getting pranked.

Hey everyone, it's Ben. I just want to come here at the beginning of the episode to let you know that you can find bonus episodes of Seeking Derangements on our Patreon, that is patreon.com slash seekingderangements. And now that that's special guest on this episode we have uh the beautiful the the wonderful Chloe Cherry joining us. Hello. Thank you for having me. Howdy. We're so happy to have you here. Thank you for coming on.

I was so excited when you replied to my tweet saying, I need random people to be able to come on the podcast in an hour. I thought it was live. You were a little late, but I was like, like we gotta get you on later in the week yeah i just like love your tweets and your whole vibe on twitter so i was like i have to check this out like it's gotta be good thank you we have a big we have big shoes to fill i guess because i'm me alone is a lot funnier than me with these two. What's so true.

But we'll see. We'll see. I literally have some big shoes. I'm wearing a size two. I love your Twitter. You like my Twitter? Thank you. Yeah. I love,

I love your tweets about sandwiches. Oh yeah. Critic tweets about all sorts of stuff. Yes. You tweet about sandwiches a lot i was wondering what like what's your what's your go-to sandwich my go-to sandwich is actually my most recent tweeted sandwich it's you take a baguette and you get salami and arugula and mozzarella cheese and then chili flake oil and it's really simple it's really good um that's usually my go-to or like just turkey and

cheese on white bread and like when i'm hungry i don't even say or think like i'm hungry like i just think like i need sandwiches yes absolutely we're literally so like all every time i go to new york i just eat deli sandwiches yeah no oh my god that's so York. Jacques is like, we're the same person. We're the same sandwiches. Hey, Dwayne. We're literally the same. I've gotten a lot of flack from my sandwich videos that I posted on Twitter and TikTok. They didn't like them at all. And I only posted one.

So I congratulate you. What was your sandwich? This is the infamous video in which you refer to Kalamata olives as Kamala olives. Yeah. It's white bread, a lot of mayonnaise, chopped Kamala olives. God damn it. I'll never say it right now. Kalamata, honey.

Kalamata. Kalamata olives. It's capers. It's American cheese, Swiss cheese, ham, and I feel like I'm forgetting. Oh, cilantro and parsley. It's a really fucked up sandwich. Okay. Yeah.

You sounded really excited about that sandwich, Chloe. You would not eat that? I don't know. The Kamala olive, not an olive person, no matter what type they are. How would an olive stay on a sandwich? I don't know. Have you guys ever seen corn sandwiches? No. What are corn sandwiches? You can make a corn

sandwich. You just kind of put corn on a sandwich. Yeah, you can just do mayo and corn on a sandwich. Ben, I'm surprised you don't know about this. You're both Latino and from Iowa. That is true. And a Lotte sandwich.

You love street corn. I actually kind of hate street corn, I'll be honest. It's too much mayo. Really? Yeah, it's way too much mayo. It's not enough mayo ever for me. I mean, a lot of times you get it and it's just like a bucket full of mayo with like seven corn kernels in it. It's disgusting.

I love the elote that you can get at Echo Park. It's like hot Cheeto elote. And it's this bowl of just mayo and like butter and hot Cheeto dust. It's amazing. We need to do like blue talky elote sandwiches. Like the most Mexican ever invented. Fabulosa elote sandwiches. The dipping sauce. The fabuloso Ajou on the side.

This cleans out your gut. I mean, I would eat that every day. I love butter. I love mayo. I love sweet vegetable. I mean, you can't go wrong there. Do you know what I had yesterday actually was Japanese or Korean actually. Korean Cheetos. Those things

whip. They taste so different. They're way cheesier. It was like Korean or Japanese Cheetos. I don't know. It was like chicken flavored and it really tasted like chicken and it tasted like a Cheeto at all. Chicken flavored is off.

But I like eating the bouillon But I like eating the bouillon. I like eating the bouillon. Like bouillon cubes? The chicken bouillon that comes with the premium bouillon that comes in the jar is really salty. You just eat that? You're going to get gout, sweetie.

He has gout. He definitely already has gout. Jacques's thing on the podcast is that he's going to die from gout What gives you gout I think it's inactivity And cheese Sodium

And shellfish The big thing is Having deep fried seafood On a regular basis And I live in Louisiana So I eat it all the time. I have po' boys. Recently, I've had a lot of

different health problems that have stopped me in my tracks, having me eating bananas and sweet potatoes like a child. He has really bad diarrhea, Chloe. He's had terrible diarrhea for the past two weeks. For two weeks? Yeah, prescription diarrhea medication.

Wow. It's not working. Special medication. I had an infection on my face. Aren't you so glad you agreed to come on? This is great. I learned so much. Yes, yes, yes.

Oh, God. But I, as research for this, I saw a great clip of you on tiktok recently of you djing oh and it was someone being like i went to see uh faye from euphoria dj and she was just slowly turning one knob back and forth yeah yeah so here's the thing about when you see faye from euphoria dj um my act as a dj is just being there you know like i do pretend to turn the knobs because i actually don't know how to dj at all and i just get like a pre-made mix and i just pretend to turn the knobs but at first i was like oh like this isn't a real way to entertain people but then after a while i was like no this can be my act that like I'm there and I'm me and I'm playing music technically and I pretend to throw the knobs and I just kind of create a vibe rather than

like doing the physical work of actually technically DJing. I mean, that's so many people. I'm just creating a vibe because that's really the most important part of DJing is just getting cool music together and playing it and just hyping up the crowd and absolutely i realized that is my act but i think that that weird part of my life is over but maybe that weird part how long were you how long were you yeah that weird part of my life i was djing it was this random point like it just randomly popped up in like april 2024 and then led me into like probably September of 2024 but then I recently just canceled like so many gigs because I was like I just don't think this is like genuinely

who I want to be like it's fun because like I don't go to parties on my own accord so it's like a fun way to just be at a party I guess and um but it really there's just something i can't really decide if it's who i truly am and i don't know if it really is yeah yeah yeah do you feel like i because watching that clip i was like okay this like you like this is the funniest shit on the planet this is like so iconic and because there's also there is that clip of you like this is the funniest shit on the planet this is like so iconic and because there's also there is that clip of you like turning the knobs and like very slowly like intentionally being like i'm just turning one knob that's not doing anything and then the clips of you from the same set of you like hyping everyone up and dancing behind the deck and everyone's going

crazy i mean to me and like the people that I work with to like get me these DJ jobs they're very aware of the fact that I'm not actually doing all the real DJing work that they actually like the fact that like when people see my name it kind of draws a certain attention and that I pick a certain kind of music that kind of goes along with the vibe of the people that would follow me and like go to a party like that and I think it kind of it really all is like actually a true like act like I really am actually doing something other than just the DJing part like um just to be up there and like yes exactly I'm just entertaining people I'm on a stage who cares what I'm doing

yeah yeah do you like that that vibe that you are you like you said that period of your life is over are you trying to like distance yourself I'm not really trying to like distance myself from anything really um but like that I don't know I think it just became to the point where like, I just didn't really want to like fly somewhere for like a DJ show and like, you know, like I didn't want to like wake up at seven in the morning and get on a flight to fly somewhere and do a show at 1am or something. That just was too much for me. And like, I also just, for some reason, I just, I don't know, my boyfriend's like a

real actual DJ. Like he's a real musician that actually knows what he's doing that like i just kind of like after i met him i was just like oh like there's just so many people out there like doing this for real that i'm just like i don't know if they really need me but it is also fun that yeah i don't really know are you are you like worried someone's gonna call you like a poser or something some dj i don't care if people call me a poser honestly like you kind of seem like you don't give a shit about what anyone could say about you ever okay i interesting i've literally been hearing that like my whole life people are

like listen no i know you don't care what people think i actually do care a lot um but yeah I'm sorry I didn't mean to talk please don't be mean to Chloe I think I think also DJing was like my way to be a little bit involved in the music world without actually knowing how to be a musician so that was cool but I think right now I have like acting projects coming up that I'm not really I don't really have the time to like truly learn how to DJ so right now it's just kind of like on the back burner I'm not really thinking about it but maybe one day you'll see me at Coachella maybe who knows but wait what's your DJ name it's just Chloe Cherry it's just my regular name I think it's so confusing to have like a million stages for every project yeah absolutely I I did have a question about your upcoming acting projects

because like on on euphoria you're like i haven't really watched a lot of it but i've seen enough clips of your parts on on tiktok to know that you're the funny you're the funny person in the show thank you and are you doing like are they better be comedies that you're doing funny you're the funny person in the show thank you and are you doing like are they better be comedies that you're doing yeah so i did um i i've done like weirdly like a lot of like horror which people say that i'm good for and then some comedies the one movie i've had come out was this movie called the french italian that came out at Tribeca Film Festival in New York back in June um that was a comedy and I actually thought it was so funny and it's an indie so currently they're like shopping around for distributors so you it's not out yet until it's distributed but it's so funny it has like Kat Cohen who's a great comedian and John Rudinsky and Aristotle

Lothari who I think they're both on SNl and um yeah it has an amazing cast like i was so intimidated by how funny they were but the movie came out really really funny really good and yeah so that was really cool and then i'm actually about to do in december um a comedy that has like cool like comedy people producers i can't like say who but it's like it's a good group and i'm really excited to do that and my agents are like always like pushing for me to do more comedy stuff and yeah with the last season for season two of euphoria I remember there wasn't originally supposed to be that many funny moments with my character but we got to this point where like I remember since it was my first time doing

an acting job I was like bad at remembering my lines and I would like do sometimes I'd be in a scene that would like mess up my line and then Sam decided that he would just like I'd go and I'd try to do the lines right but then if I messed up he would just be like okay we'll just kind of say whatever you think fits so that way we could like get through the scene and then we started doing scenes where i would say like what you know i'd say like the lines that i could remember and then i'd say whatever i thought fit in the scene and then it would end up being like those funny scenes that i was in like the funny like the you're probably eating that ginger's ass for whatever like that was completely just off the top of my head like stream of consciousness like the original line was just like i bet you suck a dick for all oxys and i was like

it's so much funnier if ice age is eating ass yeah well red hat also makes it more yeah the funny to call Fez a gender because he's like so hard you know like to call him a gender is just so fucking funny that's like no that's iconic I I totally lost my train of thought that makes me want to be a Hollywood movie star if they're gonna cater to me like that

I just need to look a little bit better Jockey has the way of saying it never saying anything without it actually being Like a covert jab Yeah It wasn't a jab I'm excited And I actually did a project

Back in March It was like This was announced a deadline It's like a movie that's James Franco And like his girlfriend are doing together And deadline it's like um a movie that's james franco and like his girlfriend are doing together and um that one's like a thriller except they had me like the director isabel pack said she was so sure that like i should just be super ridiculous in it and like they had me do a lot of improv in there too and i hope it actually makes it in the movie but they

kept being like oh my god that's so funny and i'm like this is supposed to be a thriller movie but whatever the tone is different it's unique yeah it's gonna be a fire blooper reel yeah um you mentioned your agents you you have more than one agent can you well i'm jealous yeah i have like a manager and an agent who's your favorite between your manager if I'm being honest I think my my agent Gabby she's like a very like friendly and personable person that I found it easy to like get really close with her and then I have my manager Kate she's amazing but she's like very business straightforward that like I just feel like I have a little bit of a closer connection to Gabby but also my manager lives in New York and then my agent lives in Los Angeles so I see my agent a lot more but they're both

amazing and they work together really well like I'm really lucky to have them yeah my manager is fucking sucks I fired my manager that I had for like the last 10 years I've been lost I can't believe it I was joking about having a manager but Jacques actually did have a manager

Jacques is not kidding he got me all the money he signed me up for all of my college classes. That's called a social worker, Josh. That's literally a social worker. He got me unemployment. My manager. He was managing things that I was doing.

He was helping me with stuff. It was true. Josh, can you hold your mic? You sound far away. Do I sound closer now? You sound better now, babe. Yeah. Thank you, sweetie. Okay, thank you.

So, Chloe, we were going to talk about the gay list and what makes people gay. Have you ever had a boyfriend that's gay, do you think? Yeah, have you had sex with a gay guy? Ever? I don't think I've ever had sex with just a straight up gay guy that I know of. Any sus guys? What's the most sus thing no but i also like i am the type of person that like i don't think that because i'm literally like a woman like i'm a cisgendered

woman i don't think there's anything a male could do to me or around me that's gay like i don't know why i think that way like what if he's like yes queen what if he has sex with a man? What if he has sex with a guy in front of him? Then I think he was a little gay. I think he was a little gay. But I'd still be like, oh, he's bi. Yeah, I could still fuck him if I wanted to. You're just thinking about life so positively. You see a gay guy getting railed and you say, oh, he's bi.

He must be having a good be having it's funny because that's exactly how gay men think about straight men every gay guy thinks that they could suck any straight guy's dick just by virtue of like being in a room yeah it doesn't really work it's also it's also like it is kind of a self-own as a woman to be like this guy that I've been like hooking up with is probably secretly gay because he, you know, is too close to his friend. Like he has a best friend or something.

It's like, what's wrong with you that you like, but our people are that many people like men still secretly gay. You would be surprised. There's a lot of, there's a lot of DL guys lot of dl guys still out there and i think because i had no idea i think it's actually because gay has become so like mainstreamed that it's now like you can still like get your dick sucked by a guy and be like i'm straight and i

actually believe that's totally well that's hollywood straight yeah yeah yeah it's kind of everywhere i also think like for me it's it's a little bit more precarious because i'm a transgender woman so the uh you know when if i'm with a guy i'm like it is an actual concern of like oh no this is just a gay guy but it's not really that much of a concern because i'm like if they're if they're fucking with me, like, why do I care? Yeah.

I feel like you have sex with gay guys anyway. I don't feel like I just couldn't imagine like thinking that a guy that was like, I don't know, giving me any interest that I was saying that he was just fully gay. Like, I don't know why my brain just doesn't work that way. Cause like,

I couldn't imagine myself. Like if I was just fully a lesbian, like I wouldn't just fake it and be with men. So like, I guess I just don't understand why anyone else would do it. Okay. Yeah. I mean, it's particularly crazy now to be in the closet. It's kind of like, what the fuck are you doing?

Can I give you a hypothetical? So you're, um, at the sweat tour and you're backstage, uh, with, uh, just choice of on, and he just went on stage chloe and he's like hey i'm actually not gay i'm straight he says it in like that kind of voice he's like uh i'm actually uh no i'm really i'm straight you want to do this voice you can bust on a weak body that's the best i could do but no um what would you if choice of on came on to you would you if choice of von came on to you honestly if somebody like that that was like very publicly very openly gay suddenly was like hey i would not be into it i don't think because of the fact that like in my mind like they're fully full gay you know so i don't think that

even if i was like single and like specifically troye sivan was into me i'd be like i just would have a hard time wrapping my head around i don't think i'd ever be able yeah i don't think that i would go for that yeah i wouldn't have a choice of on either though but for other reasons do you like what's your type and as as far as guys go do you like my type um well like gay guys gay guys who call me not gay guys twing twing i like a guy who's like creative and like nice and like um dresses it's like really clean like i'm basically just describing my boyfriend are you reading your boyfriend's dating profile that you have basically am but he like i want

somebody who like is very hygienic and like talented in something creative and they like keep everything in their house clean and they like love animals and they are really nice to everyone in their life and they're like open-minded that's what i like fair that's iconic i love that you have a boyfriend like that i do yeah he's amazing we stand your boyfriend no i i am jealous of anyone with anything you're jealous of everyone. Boyfriend. Boyfriend. Manager. Assistant. Car. I don't drive. Car?

Whoa, you don't drive? I'm 32 and I've only driven a car twice. Whoa. I've actually only been driving since 2022 so I went a long time without a car. I can drive but no one lets me. I have a honda civic

i actually purposely got like a well it's like kind of like a nice version of it but i purposely got a car that like wasn't like super nice because it was my first car i was like i can't get a nice car and it'd be my first car and i have uh destroyed it it is you totaled it what'd you do it's not totaled it just it's looking a little totaled you know but it's not have you crashed it it's run through yeah there's a bunch of like dents on the side it's all scraped up it's all if you hit if you hit someone's car in a parking lot are you like leaving a note are you speeding off i'm i speed off i didn't hit somebody's car like so i was on the highway i was on the 101 and somebody like hit me and i didn't know what to do because they just drove off i was like do i follow

them like i'm not the police so i just didn't know what to do no that is like a good especially if you haven't been driving for a long time i mean like i don't know what i would do yeah literally like i don't know if they were like drunk or like what it was they just like slid into the side of my car and like fucked it all up and then drove away and that was over a year ago also like that was august 2023 that happened and i've just left my car all like fucked up on the side and sometimes my friends will see it they're like oh shit what happened to your car and i'll be like oh fuck what and i'll be like i haven't seen it don't talk to me about that it's gonna make me anxious i can relate to that story because i've been hit by a car but i was not in a car so it's car related yeah yeah yes car injury you know same thing car hit jock i saw a tweet today someone was like i really have to fix it i saw a tweet today that Car related. Yes. Car injury, you know, same thing. Car hit.

Jock, I saw a tweet today. Someone was like, why are... I really have to fix it. I saw a tweet today that said, like, why are non-binary people always getting hit by cars? And I was like, wait, my friend Jock has been hit by five cars. Five. In his life. So fun. Yeah, because I got hit by a car going 30 miles an hour, and it broke both my shoulders

and collarbones, and I have a cute bulging disc and a herniated disc and then four times I got hit on a bicycle by a car what? and it was the same car backing over and over again hit him once and then just backed over

three times that's insane to get hit that many times yeah it's almost like it's it's really his fault maybe it's almost like maybe it's his fault for walking into traffic in front of a car no no no no i once got hit by a car on like a lime scooter do you know that yeah yeah yeah oh i was like riding a lime scooter really fast down abbott kinney in venice and this car pulled out and hit me and it was also my birthday and i was like i was like hell yeah it's my birthday i'm gonna be free and ride down abbott kinney and then i got hit by a

car and i was knocked down and i was like whoa just like knocked out on the ground and then the lady was like asking for like my information and like trying to like claim shit from my insurance. That's when you fake a seizure. Dude, in case she found a dent on her car. So obviously I just made up a fake name, fake everything. And I was just like, yup, this is my information. Can you claim damage? Do you have a go-to fake name?

Do you have a go-to fake name that you chose? Yeah, I do have a go-to fake name, but it's my cousin's name, so I don't want to say it. It's my cousin's real name. So you don't like your cousin? No, no, no. She's great. She just has a really unique name. Okay, interesting.

What's your background that you have a cousin with a unique name? What's your ethnic? Just like American. I'm sorry sorry i know you're being serious like a european mutt yeah yeah what what are you chloe you're like i'm american there are there are way too many people who've been here for like six generations who are like i'm a third german i'm a third dutch i'm like you're just american like my family like we can trace back like three or four generations that are all born in america that like it literally doesn't matter like what kind of european i am like i'm just a european mutt and that's yeah it's not like you're still like wearing wooden shoes or like churning butter exactly like it

doesn't affect me at all that like my family came from wherever. And I actually don't even really know. I haven't done a DNA test or anything. And I don't care. I don't think it matters. I think you should claim to be Dutch. And I think you should get wooden shoes. I think wooden shoes would be such a slay. Be the Dutch Rachel Dolezal.

I can already see the Vogue article about it. It's like Chloe Cherry seen walking around Echo Park, buying a lotte, wearing clogs, wooden ones. She's like Chloe Cherry's seen walking around Echo Park buying a lotte wearing clogs, wooden ones. She's Dutch? We never knew. Yes, yes, yes. You'll see all these bitches wearing wooden clogs the next day.

I can see wooden clogs are kind of due for a comeback. No one's wearing them anymore. Well, Uggs made a comeback, so the next painful like... Uggs is a comeback, so the next painful like... Yeah, Uggs is making a comeback from the year like 20... 2006 when they were popular

and then Wooden Clogs are going to make a comeback from the year like 1459. I swear, Uggs, when I was like growing up in Pennsylvania, Uggs were the number one clothing item to have. And that was in 2009 and 2016 or so.

Wait, Chloe, can I tell you? I'm wearing my Telfar Uggs as a spirit. Chloe, can I... Let me see if this... When I was in high school and middle school, the uniform... Because I went to private school. I had a...

A rich pair of Uggs. I went to private school. I had a rich parents. Here we go. Nice. I went to private school. Wow, she really... Here was the private school girl uniform. It was Uggs, skinny, like super skinny, like legging jeans,

and then a North Face fleece. That is exactly it's through this first day of sixth grade to the last day of 12th grade every single person every single day would just wear like tan uggs like this that i like still have for some reason and um those exact tan uggs with like either the black leggings or the skinny jeans that were like really, really tight. And then the black North Face. And it was like a specific kind of North Face, like the fleece North Face. And everyone wore it every day.

And then sometimes people would add like a scarf or something. And then under it, you would always wear like Hollister. Yeah. Yes. I can't even think. There you go. Sorry. Like, no, it would always be a girl named like. Hannah. I can't even think There you go sorry Like no it would always be a girl

Named like Hannah Rebecca Sarah Joanne Like Ashley There is one name there's one real name That I want to say

Say it What's holding you back Like Ivy Spire There's one real name that I want to say. Say it. What's holding you back? NDA? Like Ivy Spire. Period. Put her on blast. Fuck you, Ivy.

Should we get to the list? What do you think? Let's hop into the list. Chloe, first of all, what do you think? Is there a sandwich? If you were on a first date with a guy i know you have a boyfriend um but if you were on a first date with a guy and you were at a sandwich type restaurant a sandwich restaurant what do you think is like the gayest sandwich that a man could possibly could possibly

have um gosh anything with jams or preserves it's a chick fried chickpea sandwich with harissa and a lemon aioli

harissa that's a name for yes yes that is so a girl. Yes. I think what it is is turkey, brie, and fig jam. I think that is the gayest. I think, I don't think, again, like, if I was with a guy and he ordered this, I wouldn't just think he was straight up just in love with men. and he ordered this i wouldn't just think he was straight up just in love with men but like i would be questioning a guy's like confidence and everything if he ordered something that was like crazy low calorie like eating disorder style like if i went to a deli with a guy and he was like

like i'm just gonna get like two pieces of lettuce and like cheese made out of oats as my sandwich like I would be like oh I don't know I have a I have a gay control test can I have the faggot special please yeah I'm gay can I you're on a first date and a guy opens

his escalade and he turns his escalade on and the first song that comes on is a thousand Miles by Vanessa whatever. Gay? You still wouldn't think he was gay? You wouldn't think? No, I would think if I like was with a guy and he just played that

song, I would totally think he was one of those men that just were obsessed with like pleasing women or whatever and just thought that like he just knew what women like so well that's what i would think of that yes oh my god yeah exactly i think like what what i always think of is it's very dated at this point but like what there's an episode in the first season of the tv show the l word which was on uh well before my time but i've i'm obsessed with the show so i've seen every episode

of it but there's an episode about a male lesbian and he that's like his whole thing is that he's like uh trying to hook up with lesbians because he's like no i like i love eating pussy and also i love vanessa carlton like it's so like it's it's a very uh it's definitely a type of a type of guy and it's a type of guy that um i think i think there's no there's nothing wrong with being that type of guy you've got to just like... Someone's got to do it. If you're that type of guy, hit me up. Honestly. I would be so shocked if you dated some guy like that. You'd be disappointed.

Well, I have. Let's get to the list. And guess what? They were tall also. Let's get to the list, guys. What do you think? Yeah, I'm ready for it. Wait, my phone is about to die and I know that on the app it says also let's get to the list guys what do you think yeah i'm ready for it yeah all right so wait my phone is about to die and i know that on the app it says like make sure should i can i switch to like another kind of like airpods or something will that still work as like a microphone it should

yeah that's fine okay let me do that Oh my god, Jacques is doing a dab I'm being very traditional Okay, Chloe, can you hear us alright? Whoa, like a literal dab How do you do that and still think straight? He doesn't He doesn't. He doesn't. Literally, he does not.

I think so straight. Tell Chloe how many dabs you do a day. Well, I've slowed down a lot, but probably like 30. The blowtorch he's using is about to fall. It is so, it makes me so anxious, the way that it moves around, because it's clearly between, it's clearly like on his bed. Yeah, it's like a big old torch. It's a full propane tank

that's standing on like seven cans of empty soda. Anxiety inducing. And then it's clogged. And then it's clogged. And then it's clogged. I'm going to kill myself. I know. What a tough life. Shut the fuck up. These two

love to rip me every day like I live some kind of life. No one's ever cleaned this. No one's cleaned this. Hey, can we get Shut the fuck up. These two love to rip me every day like I live. No one's ever cleaned this. No one's cleaned this. Hey, can we get someone to clean this rig right now? Let me get my manager in here. I'm so sorry. You have to see that, Chloe. Please don't tell Sam or anyone, please, about me doing the dabs.

We are recording. Oh, fuck. Oh, fuck me. Oh, no. Shit. We are recording. Oh, fuck. Oh, fuck me. Oh, no. Shit. There goes Hollywood. Oh, damn it. Okay, I'm ready when you are for Gay List.

Yeah, you should start it. We're back in. We're leaving the dab back in. We'll start at, this is entry 591. It's so fucked up that we've done this that much. There are so many entries. The guy just posted entry

1010 today. Thank God he's still compiling these for us. There's 1010 reasons your man might be gay. That'd be a good book. Exactly. You think he's making a book? He could. He should make a book. 591 is Get Your Boochie Ate. And I just want to say here,

straight men who want their ass ate by a woman. I feel like that's the most misogynistic thing you could ask a woman to do. Like, does he eat your ass? That was like my... No. I feel like it's fine. Because guess what?

Like, it... You know what? Like... Well, you know what like what you know what no see I'm I'm too trans to be able to say anything about this too trans it's gonna it risks putting me on the line fake as a only hooking up with gay yeah. So I'm a little nervous. But I think it just feels kind of good. So getting your ass ate is... Yeah. I think it's a power play for women.

If you're clean and you're like... I convinced this cis girl that I used to work with in Denver. I hated her. And I was like, oh my God. And I convinced her to eat her boyfriend's asshole and I was totally joking and I told her you'll get everything you ever wanted every present whatever listen to this

she ate his ass and he was like oh my god and he flipped down he came like you never did whatever and she said to me he asked me to marry him the next day and they moved to Canada and they were married together for like five months, six months. And then he was like, hey, I just I just need to let you know I'm gay. OK, hang on.

So this is rocking my world. It's ruining my life right now. He got his ass once, married the woman, moved to Canada and then divorced her. She moved to Canada. She moved to Canada. She moved to Canada for him. To be with him? To be with him. And it was all thwarted because he was gay the whole time.

Six months, too. Are you regretting coming on here yet? No, this is interesting. It's something to do. Thank you for listening. It's something to do. Yes. for listening. It's something to do. A way to pass the time, truly. In cowboy times,

they would just whittle a shoe or something, as your Dutch ancestors would do. Exactly. Whittling a shoe to wear. Yes. What do you think? Do you think it's gay?

It's gay to get your ass apiated. Honestly, to wear yes what do you think do you think it's gay it's good to get your ass um for honestly i think if like a woman is doing anything it's never gonna be gay in my opinion yeah no that's just what i think i think you are the one of the first people we've had on who has the right mindset yeah yeah I mean that's just really what I think I don't think there's anything that like if a woman if it's woman and man

there's nothing they can do that is gay like there is nothing at all that they can evolve to please I need my ass queen and she responds like she goes yeah so they eat your ass queen. Oh, so she's a gay man as well. That's what I'm trying to say.

Straight people have gay sex too, y'all. Please. No, literally. It's like a penis envy thing. That's why a woman wants to be a gay guy. Do you envy? I'm just thinking about my old roommate sorry do you have penis envy chloe i i don't really have like penis envy like i don't

envy them but like i do you know as i assume everyone does you wonder what it would be like to be the other thing you know like what would it be like to just be male like what would that feel like you know yes absolutely absolutely there's actually i and this is like such a trans like and overly literary reference to make but there is a uh a greek myth from old greek mythology about the one the one person ever to have to be both a man and a woman in greek mythology and that one person was like it's way better to be a woman even like canonically in greek mythology yeah yeah yeah i actually like totally agree like i don't know um i feel like i never really talk about this with anyone, but like I genuinely would never want to be a man. Like I would never, ever, ever want to be a guy. Like, I don't know.

Maybe it's just because of my perspective. Cause I've just been a woman my whole life that I just can't imagine being a guy, but like, I would never, I don't, I don't think I would rather have been born a guy. Yeah. Yeah. No. I don't think I would rather have been born a guy yeah no I mean even as someone whose perspective

is like having been a guy for most of for most of my life I think I also don't like it you should do it what I think is like for example I grew up with like

a younger brother and like um i would just see the way that like he wasn't allowed to like literally feel he wasn't allowed to like think that an animal was cute he couldn't cry when another kid hit him like he just wasn't allowed to like do anything at all because of the people who put stuff on this list, basically. Yeah, and, like, I don't know. I just, like, I wouldn't want to be, I guess there's also, like, a million things that you're not supposed to do, like, as a woman, but, yeah, I don't know.

I just wouldn't want to be a guy. I think men are, they have more restrictive, like, social codes in some way, and more, like, internal codes with themselves, like, not being able to, like, process emotions, like, punching holes in walls, and all of that, and, like, maybe socially it's easier to to be a man but i think it's easier to be a woman like in your body if that makes sense oh yeah and that's like something that i've thought about sometimes is like why is it that like my like female friends will constantly call me and be

like oh my god i'm having this issue whatever i need to talk this out but like yeah no men in my family or in my life like ever do that is your boyfriend like an emotionally intelligent person as far as like he's like it like like in touch with his feelings totally yeah he's like really emotionally intelligent and like another thing is that he doesn't have the same kind of like insanity that I do like um that's like something that does seem nice about being a guy is that he's a bit calmer than i am like if we get into some kind of disagreement like i'm always reaching into like insanity versus he always kind of wants it to be over but i'm always just like what about this what about this what about this and like he is just always, like, ready for it to just be over. Yeah, he's like, no, what if it's the least bad thing? Like, that's probably what it is.

Like, and meanwhile, you're like, no, but, like, what about all the terrible things it could be? I know, exactly. Yeah, he can just really calm his mind and just kind of decide things and just sit with that and like versus me i'm just constantly with all these what ifs and like just insanity yes i get it okay so getting your ass is not gay i think we're we've all decided yes okay i love this we're gonna get a bunch of not gays and run this is so good next. The next one, the next one, I kind of agree with this on a low key term

is have an aligned spine. Your man might be gay if he has an aligned spine, which I think is just like good posture. So does that mean just like, oh, he has good posture?

Whoa, that's, so they're saying that is gay or what? Which I get is gay. Gay men are always, they always have amazing posture. They're like walking around like are always they always have amazing posture they're like

walking around like a stick piece of wood like they're like two by fours okay okay here here is what i think i think that in this case this like specific one yeah it's like very much talking about like someone in like uh i don't know i think back to like uh elementary school where all the all the guys that i went to elementary school with who had like really good posture all turned out to be gay which is kind of like do you also think it was the proximity to you that made them gay maybe so probably probably because i was so hot but i mean think about the guys you know in your mind none of them are like slouching around they're always sitting like no a ton of them are a ton of i've seen you walk down the street ben you look like a man holding two heavy buckets of change what i have amazing posture i bitch. I have really good posture.

You're kind of like this. You're kind of like sad Meryl Streep. You're so wrong. I do. I have really bad posture. I have really, really terrible posture. Chloe, how's your posture? I have terrible posture, so that's what makes me think that it's feminine.

But I feel like I am pretty feminine. I don't have like the worst posture, but it's not good, great posture. So I don't think it, to me, it doesn't feel like that's a feminine thing. I don't know. I've also never really thought about it. But yeah, I don't think it's nice. Isn't this list terrible, the way that it makes you think about these things? You're learning so much about sexuality and identity today that you

didn't even know. Yeah, totally. Totally. You're learning to doubt yourself and everything you've learned in the most unhealthy way possible. Wait, am I a gay guy because of my posture? Wait, but what's the equivalent for women?

Because men can do anything and people think they're gay. Is there something that women can do that people think is like. There is also a lesbian list that I found and it's a lot of stuff. But is that, I don't think that has the same weight as like people thinking man is gay. I feel like it's more like if you think a woman's like a slut is a little more of equivalent to like men being gay. Maybe, I don't know. I think they definitely like prefer no lesbians to the sluts if that's what you're saying

yeah yeah we do have a lesbian list but I do think like it is less similar to the gay list yeah it's not really as much of a thing would be you know like yeah I would love a slut list though we should definitely come up with a slut list

every slut we know and why we think they're a slut. Yeah, but, like, that's the thing is that a real man would not care about, like, things as trivial things such as, like,

body count or, like, being a slut. A lot of them do. I know. It's very bad like i think a lot of guys are worried about coming across as sus because of this kind of like meme twitter like disposition a lot of people have where you're like sizing up certain small interactions or small things they may do and being like how could i extrapolate this into a judgment on their sexuality i think that's like how a lot i know it's kind of crazy how people think about this, but it's

a real phenomenon, I think. It's unhealthy. I think it's really unhealthy. I think it's really healthy. I think we should, day by day, break down people we don't know and decide if they are or they are not gay. We should just be deciding a lot for people, honestly.

We should let... I honestly, I wish I was a slut i wish i was more of a slut because i i automatically am gonna slam my gavel down and go objection i thought you were a slut i'm not a slut because i yeah i i never really hook i barely hook up with people honestly ever because i'm like i don't know it's just very stressful to do so yeah I mean it's pretty stressful I mean Chloe let me know if you think this is the same thing like if you think this is uh relatable but like I don't know I'm like if I hook up with someone it's like putting myself at risk for like uh you know if I hook up with someone and they're like

and then I'm like oh that was I I really like this person then I'm like hey that was amazing let's hang out again and then if they don't text me for like a month and it's like that is the established like norm between us yeah then i start freaking out even though that's the established thing that's just how so many people have dude oh my god oh my god I actually feel the exact same way. So like before I met the boyfriend that I have now, like I used to like, like I had never had like a one night stand my whole life. Like I would only ever have sex with somebody if I genuinely knew them. Like if they were either like, I truly, truly thought that there was like a possibility we could date or like something was there, you know? Um, I've never had a one-day stand even though like I did used to be a sex worker it was actually

incredibly separate from like who I genuinely am as a person like I could not be more opposite of like what I did for work that like in my real life like I like right now like I only want to have sex with like my boyfriend for the rest of my life but like yeah it's fucking terrifying to just like go and like hook up with the guy or like i can't imagine like the people that will like go out to like a bar with their friends and they like meet somebody there and they just go back and hook up with them like i could never do that because like yeah what if i do like it and then like i just want to like die like knowing that like they don't like me back you know i had sex behind that i do a bad job

like i do a bad job and they're like you know then i have to live with that and then oh my god yeah especially i don't feel like they're gonna really like tell people or i don't because i've never thought of somebody like telling people anything about us having sex my worry really is just like the thought of like you know doing that with somebody and then for them to just like literally maybe they'll never want to talk to me again and they just never text me back ever again they never talk to me and it's just will make me forever think like what is so horribly wrong with me like the boyfriend I am now like it took me like a few times hanging out with him until i was like okay we can have sex it wasn't until like i could really

tell that he was always gonna be like you know that he really just genuinely had an interest in me and like yeah that's like the only way that i was able to do it i wasn't just gonna like hook up with him right when i met him yeah like you're so much more chast and well behaved than i have ever i mean i'm having i'm having sex behind a dumpster with a guy i don't remember his name but this is different now i have a girlfriend and i've i've been having just i mean like the last time like the last few times i've hooked up with a guy i've been like the next morning i'm like oh god he's gonna want to leave like right away because he's gonna be like i gotta get away right away like i gotta leave like right now and i've always been like but it's always been like a little bit you know like uh comforting that

like when someone doesn't leave right away. I kind of think, though, the etiquette of a hookup is like you have the hookup and then you make sure to leave at the same speed of an emergency appointment to the hospital. I don't know if that's true. I think that might just be something that happens with you.

I'm like, well, you should leave right now, immediately. I need to lock the door right now behind you. Could you please go? I need you to leave your car, too. You need to lock the door right now behind you. Could you please go? I need you to leave your car, too. You need to get in your car and go. Right now. But, yeah, I also, like, I also used to do sex work. Sexual work, as I call it.

I, too, have worked sexually. Ben's a prude, so he would never. I have not done sex work. I'm sorry, Chuck. I'm sorry to disappoint you. Also, Chloe, Ben told me before this recording that he was going to try and...

Do you think Ben is straight? Or do you think he's gay? Well, I feel like he's gay. I feel like he's said the words like, my ex-boyfriend. It's kind of hard to fool people when they can see me because I look so... Yeah. I think you're one of the most straight passing people I know, Ben, but it's only...

It's just like when you're angry, you have the face of a man. I hear the term gay face. Yes. Gay face on TikTok. We're big innovators of gay face over here. I've been holding it down for years. Yeah, like I've seen the gay guys on there being like, oh, I have gay face.

Is that something you've observed in your life? I can see a guy's face and be like, that man is gay. Before I see them gesticulate whatever they may be doing, I can tell if someone's gay and I'm usually right from the face. It's because they have prettier eyes.

They have low testosterone eyes. They usually have like some kind of fucked up mustache. You know, it's easy to tell. And there have been studies done on this as to what could have happened. I feel like they have. They have. They've done studies on gay face. And it's because there's two reasons here.

A lot of gay men have an older brother who's straight but this is a phenomenon that's been studied and i forget the exact term of it but it's essentially once a woman produces a child there's more estrogen in the womb itself so the second okay this is like jordan peterson it's real it's real there's more this too. There's the estrogenized womb that the second son is in and that's why gay guys have long eyelashes. They have more feminine features. Well, that's the thing.

I'm the second son. Long eyelashes. Exactly. You have an older brother, bitch. Me too. I know. But me, I have three siblings. I have three siblings I have three siblings and all of them are straight and all of them are younger than me

it's not like it will always happen it's more likely than not that he has an older gay brother Chloe do you have any siblings yeah I have one younger brother and then I actually have three step siblings but I'm not related to them oh amazing

are you close to them yeah I actually just saw them um for my step-sister's birthday it was really cool I introduced them to my boyfriend it was cool oh that's so iconic are you like are you like the popular like the cool like successful one in the family? No, the popular cool, successful one in my family is still my stepsister's husband, Scott, who's a doctor and everyone's like, oh, he's a doctor. He does surgery.

Fuck, Scott. We are going to Scott. Chloe is... No, just kidding. Scott sounds great. You should make your parents list you as the number one child. You should make them make a list and post it on the family thing.

And we're going to put Scott second. Great idea. It's amazing you'll never have children. That'd be so terrible. I'm pretty good with family and kids. My mom's one of 17 and I worked at a summer camp. I know, isn't that crazy? 17? Yeah, Catholic.

One woman had 17 kids? One woman, one man. That's crazy. She was pregnant from like 1969 to like 1980 or something and that's 15 it's like 15 years. That's 15 years.

That's not even a lot in time. Is that possible to have 17 children? Yeah, hang on. She was almost always pregnant. Yes. What did she look like? Could you tell that she had had 17 kids by looking at her?

God rest my grandmother's soul. Is she busted? Yeah, is she ugly? No, she was not busted. Did she have a great bod? Did she have a rocking bod? Well, if anything, her having 17 babies should be a testament that she clearly had a rocking bod.

Yeah, of course. Yeah, I mean, she was just so Catholic and procreation is such a like celebration for the Catholic people. And this is such a it's all Cajun territory around here. And she I mean, we there was a like framed thing written from Pope John Paul II that said is a blessing that you had 17 children. The pope wrote that to her personally? There's a signed document.

I've seen these documents from Pope John Paul II, right? Yeah, I think it's like he signed. My parents have the exact same thing. It's crazy. He signs them for women who have over 10 kids. Yeah. Chloe, they, no, you have to pay for it. You have to pay a lot of money.

I'm sure they get this document. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a scam. But Chloe, the three of us are all very Catholic. We were all raised very Catholic. Jacques in the Cajun tradition. Ben, Latino. In the Latino tradition. Yes.

And me, I am... Italian Catholic. Second generation American Italian. My parents are from Sicily. And I think what are you what was your do you have a religious upbringing at all? I actually was raised my parents were actually atheists, like because my dad was raised um christian and then when he became an adult he was like oh i'm i'm an atheist and then my mom was her parents like raised her to like be like an atheist and then um she like met my dad and they were both like yeah we don't believe in god and like i was raised to like believe that religion is like, super fake, actually. And then it's made it like, interesting, because when you're raised

from a young age to believe that religion is fake, and all the people that you're seeing in school talking about God, like, that's just they just do that to control people, my mom would always say, and like, she would always have all these like arguments against it, that it is actually impossible for me to ever in my adult life convince myself to be religious like I could never just like become like any real religion and like actually believe in it because of like what was instilled in me at such a young age that like I guess I just I'll never be able to like be full-on religious or like really believe in the things that I feel like so many people were raised believing.

Yeah. Period. Yeah. I might know that makes total sense. I'm the opposite. Cause my dad was raised when my mom was like, didn't was just like ambivalent about it. But my dad would literally say,

don't use the Lord's name in vain. Cause he doesn't exist. And. Oh, wow. It's really insane thing. This this but he just was so against religion and stuff and now i really want to be very spiritual and i feel myself you pray pulled i pray a lot and i'm like constant i do think about religion a lot but i do my parents like

they did stop they became less a lot less religious after I came out as trans and after the, like, Catholic church, like, molestation stuff. It's kind of hard after that. They were like, yeah, they stopped. Now we only go to church. We used to go to church, like, two or three times a week. Oh, my gosh. Now we only go like

on Christmas and Easter. Little fact, Lafayette was the first place where the Catholic church was sued for the sexual stuff. Isn't that crazy?

Oh god. Scary. Chloe, are you so glad that you came on this podcast i don't usually talk about this kind of stuff with anyone i'm excited i really feel like we got to know know you very well in this last yeah totally and also, I feel like normally when I go on podcasts, you're just kind of like, oh, talk about work, work, work. This is interesting to talk about just random stuff.

Yeah, no, it's fun. It's very fun. We have fun here. Wait, did I say anything that people could think was offensive? No, you're fine. You're totally fine. No, we'll send you,

before we release this, we always do a slur check. You can have a final approval. We always do a slur check. We always do a slur check before, and we just already have AI generating new words to cover the slur because they're just coming

out so rapidly that we need to fix them immediately. It's harder to edit them out. I'm just kidding. Do you want to do one more thing from the gay list, and then we'll finish it off Yeah let me find a good one Find a really good one

Do you ever mess with Cajuns Do you have Cajun friends Or do you ever go to Louisiana I'm just curious I have a friend from Louisiana Yeah her name is Maddie. I don't know if she's Cajun, but she's from Louisiana. Oh, okay, cool.

Interesting. Okay. I'm just sorry. I have beef. Okay, Maddie, I got beef with her. I got beef with this bitch. Maddie, this is an all-call. Get the hell out of our podcast. Okay, the final one today. I totally agree with this one.

It's eat things piece by piece. Like, instead of like a piece eating a slice of pizza, you know, you just like tear off a little piece and eat it. Okay, well, what about like a steak or something? I would imagine they're talking about things that aren't meant to be eaten by piece by piece. Yeah.

Like, are they saying it's gay to not eat a steak by, like, picking it up with both hands? Well, that's how an alpha male should eat a steak is, like, just picking it up and... Yeah, I guess that's true. Like, pretending to be... That's how I eat steaks in private. That is how you eat... All of these... When I get them to go, I just sit in front of a full tray and eat it with both two hands.

That's disgusting the and then eat a lot of the funny thing the funny thing about all of these is that it's like it's like from the perspective of like a 12 year old like things that would be gay you know that's when you're that's when you're you're most anxious about your sexuality i feel like there's a reason yes yeah flowy what do you think? Eating something piece by piece. Again, I'm not going to think that it's totally gay. Would it annoy me? Would I get annoyed and be like,

why is he doing that? Yes, but I wouldn't be like, oh, he's gay. He's in love with a man. Just a quick... But is there anything more gay than annoying a woman? You know, that Just a clue. But is there anything more gay than annoying a woman? You know, that's a question

that we have to ask ourselves. Let me reframe the question. In between every bite of steak, he goes, mmm, fabulous. Would you still think he was strange? Well, is he doing that like jokingly? Is he joking around? Yes, is he doing that, like, jokingly?

Like, is he joking around? Like, trying to make people laugh? He's doing it jokingly, but he does it way too much. He does it way too often. It's his only joke. He does it. Yes, it is. It's his only joke. He's like, sorry, I have to leave.

I'm having gay sex. So if you're willing to defend that gay of a guy. That would be so funny. I'm just joking with you, Queen. Queen, you are involved with you, Queen. Queen, you are involved with the gay community. I mean, I can tell. A lot of...

A lot of, like... I feel like a lot of straight men, they think it's funny to say things like slay. They're like, yeah. But is it funny? Is it really funny when a straight guy... When a straight guy says something like slay and they're like yeah so but i think it's kind of is it really funny when a straight guy when a straight guy says something like slay like as a joke i think it is kind of funny just talks like that yeah look if it's not like oh my god straight guys literally do straight guys talking it's because like gay language is like the language of the internet at this point

so it's like even if you don't have a friend you're still being like work oh work honey and like you know yes totally yeah no it's so true actually my boyfriend he's straight and he had never heard of the word cunt like he had no idea that people were using the term cunt and i was like oh i say you're straight finally finally so he's not British he's like yeah no he's not he's American and didn't know what cunt was

how did he find out that cunt wasn't were you being like that's so cunt and he's like you can't say that yeah it was something like that where he cunt and he's like you can't say who are you talking about yeah it was something like that where he was like what people are saying that now what and he was like really it would be kind of disturbing if you had no reference for it and someone's like oh my god she looks so yeah yeah yeah he was like it's kind of jarring how much it gets used now it's like uh there was like a girl and she was hovering

above us talking to us and she was like and my friend died last week and she was like but she was so cunt so like and she was just like the funeral was so cunt and I was like whoa whoa yeah yeah that's insane

but it was so great no and then she was also talking about this person like robbing a, like a trans, like some trans organization. And she was like, that was like so horrible, but it was so cunt. And it was like another trans person talking about it. It was so, it was so funny.

I don't know how it was I'm not good at describing the moment this is the type of stuff that we talk about on this podcast trans organizations and why it's cunt and how cunt it is well I think we can agree well I'm

saying eating things piece by piece is maybe it's not gay but it's at least a little sus it's definitely bisexual I but it's at least a little sus. It's definitely bisexual. I'll tell you that much. Honestly, as a trans woman, if I'm eating with someone and they start cutting up a piece of pizza and eating it with like a fork and knife. Okay. But that's just subhuman behavior. When people do.

No. Or sandwiches with a fork and knife. Give me a grip. No, no, no, no. I think, I think like that is, it's a little bit of a turnoff, but not enough of a turnoff to be like, you know, like this is a significant kind of, this is a factor.

You know what I mean? Can I just say one thing that I actually do think is so fucking gay across the board? Yes, yes, yes. When a man who claims to be straight, when you say something like, God, I just had such a long and hard day.

And he's like, long and hard. He's full gay. Fully gay. Dude, if a guy, if you can never say. That's what she said type of guy. Oh my God. He's the worst and they're fully gay. And they will never ever have anyone love them ever.

Like I swear. That's literally what gay men do. Gay men will be at Whole Foods and see a sausage and be like, reminds me of Friday night. It is such a gay thing. But also the straight men that do that and just think that every single thing that's even

they see somebody eats a hot dog just in a normal way and they're just like, ha ha. It's just so like, oh my God. Yes. It's so. Well, they're constantly thinking about it. And it's the most unattractive thing ever.

Yeah. That's what I think. Yeah. I'm reading this. You think like. So it's. Because this is, this is really what this list comes down to. And it's not like, I feel like it's not like what objectively makes someone

gay it's like turnoffs you know yeah what is a turnoff totally like if i were to like get like splashed at the water park or something and i come out i'm like oh my god i didn't think i'd get so wet and then the guy's like haha you're wet you're wet. Ooh, baby, you're wet. I never want to see him again. It's so juvenile. Yes. I can't say any words that are like half, that are like a double entendre for anything sexual. And I just can't say those without them sexualizing it. It's gay.

Don't ever want to talk to them. Yes. Well, those are like Neanderthals who can't like. And that also goes towards my point of it being like, this is really a test of what means that it's not really gay. It's just like if someone's really immature and someone is acting like an 11-year-old or something. I know. I'm not trying to be immature right now,

but I'm going to read y'all a statistic from the Mayo Clinic to end us off. It says that 87% of men who eat hot dogs are raging homosexuals. Whoa. Okay, whoa. New York City is totally cooked. New York City is cooked. I mean, we've been

through that. Yes, absolutely, absolutely. Well, Chloe, thank you so much for joining us. We had a great time. Yes, thank you for having me. This was so fun. We really appreciate it. If you're ever in Louisiana, you can have some gumbo.

Jockey will take you out. Jockey will give you dinner with Emeril, and it will not backfire. Okay, wait. Before she goes, you watch Real Housewives of New York? No. Oh, well. I went online with Real Housewives of New York, and then someone posed online with a real housewife of New York

and then someone posed as their it was a whole thing. It was not funny. Jock was pranked. I was pranked and I hurt and I feel maliciously targeted and I hope you take that with you when you leave today. Please remember I feel targeted.

Thank you so much. It means a lot for you to come on our show today. Thank you so much. Yes, thank you, Chloe. Yeah, thank you guys for having me. This was so fun. Yes, this was such a fantastic episode. Okay, please, after I stop recording,

just stay on for a second so that your thing can upload more. Like, all the way. I love you.