Seeking Derangements - SD 388- Wine Night

Episode Date: March 2, 2025

Ben here, happy to bring you an extra long episode featuring Jen and Hesse. We each drink a bottle of wine and call our Dads, Jacques and two different Angel's, but not before discussing Luigi, Diddy, Bridgette Macron, the Oscars, Hilaria, and much more. Consider this the sequel to our Berlin Speed Paste episode, although none was consumed. First hour's free, the last two are paywalled.

🎵 Okay, you dropping that on us. I did tell you when I walked in. Yes! How's that? Can I get his in? I would love a sin! Hessa, can I get a Zin? I would love a Zin. Welcome, everyone, to Seeking Derangements. It's Ben. I'm here with Jen and Hessa. This is our free episode of the week.

So go subscribe to our Patreon. Patreon.com slash Seeking Derangements. If you'd like to hear more or get our back catalog. Let me get a Zin. We're all here at Jen's apartment. We're popping Zins. How many are left? Six milligrams of nicotine Zins.

How many are left? I think that's seven. Okay. Baby pouches. Yeah. But... What's up, y'all? How's it going?

That they sell in America. Good. I'm keying. We're keying. We're keying. Right, Jen's apartment. I haven't been here in a while. On the wall, Jen has a poster of... Full-size movie posters.

Yeah, next to three posters of Lady Gaga. I never saw Transamerica. What is the transgender feeling on it? It's really funny. It's amazing. It's so funny. Well, it was consulted. Andrea James feeling on it's really it's amazing it's so it was consulted andrea james consulted on it which like was why it's like such a good like trans story that's a trans

woman i'm assuming no yeah it's a it's ridiculous darling the founder of deep stealth productions that sounds fun fun though um she's just a diva from back in the day that really like she was one of the first like kind of producers, like trans producers in California. And she, everyone, every doll I know from like 20, 30 years ago that learned voice training through like videos that got passed around with like a PayPal link to like donate.

They were Andrea James. Like that was happening in like 2000 voice training, just like in 2003 where it's like some like GeoCity's website that like you find with like weird gifs. It's like she was the doll. And it was just her

speaking in a high voice? No, she has like these half hour training like videos. You do that to make your voice higher?

It's like a whole package of like three or four hours. And it's training your muscles? Yeah. Or what? It's like at home voice training. What does it sound like? What do you mean? Don't pretend like, three or four hours. And it's training your muscles? Yeah. Or what? It's, like, yeah. You're, like, at home voice training. What does it sound like?

What do you mean? Don't pretend like you haven't done it. What does it sound like? It just makes your voice higher. You're, like, oh, I've never done it. It just makes your voice higher. I actually don't have to do it. It makes your voice higher, but, like, more natural.

So it's not like you're talking. Like, you're not straining. Like an old bitch. Yeah, exactly. So you don't sound like a shrieky old bitch that everyone hates you don't sound like shrillery clinton cd rom meet cd tom exactly exactly well that's interesting do they have them for men um no well because their voices just drop with a testosterone yeah that's not you don't need it. So you don't really need it. It doesn't make your voice higher?

No. No. Wow. I know. You learn something new every day. It's unfair. Well, yes. Well, yes.

Look at it this way. You get to be women. Yeah, that's true. They don't have that. That's true. They lost that. They lost that. Period.

They lost the most powerful thing it is to be a woman in this world. It's a woman's world and you're lucky to be living in it. Who period? Katy Perry. Katy Perry. Oh my God, I forgot about that. Katy Perry, one, three, one, four, three. Do you think she's going to kill herself?

No, she doesn't. She's not like really aware of any of it. She just shows up to the same things. She doesn't. Yeah. She won the Video Vanguard Award award at the vma for the um the like feminism just for her lifetime of songs it's like video vanguard it's like your whole career achievement thing yeah yeah yeah i always hated her oh come on she always hated her she had like three or four years at the top

at the top of the game at the top of of pop. That's probably why I hated her. I mean California. Teenage Dream. Teenage Dream. No skips. Perfect pop album. Firework is a good song. Oh my god. Yeah. Firework's amazing. Dark Horse is one of the worst songs I've ever heard. That is such a funny song.

No but like Firework, Teenage Dream, California Girls. I Kissed a Girl. Last Friday Night. Those are all like I Kissed a Girl was hot and cold. but like firework teenage dream uh california girls like i kissed a girl last friday night like those are all like well i guess a girl was hot and cold but teenage dream the teenage dream album the teenage dream the song is probably the best song written by benny blanco i saw benny blanco in a tiktok saying that it was a very hard song teenager i thought teenage dream was like um i correct me if i'm wrong but i think he worked with her on that entire album who does benny blanco date again it's um demi lovato i think that was bonnie mckee and

max martin but it was either like dr luke bonnie mckee max he was right he wrote at least one of those songs i think you're a teenage dream what do you guys think of him people people he's been in the news because everyone's like he's so fucking ugly and he's dating Selena Gomez. He is busted as hell. Right? You'd agree. I can barely picture him. There's some more busted bitches out here. He has just very unfortunate proportions. He's one of those

guys where not one specific thing is ugly about him, but when you put it all together, the mosaic of his face, it makes ugly. Money, glass houses. It's not true. It's not true. I actually have very horrifying eyes on their own.

You're the opposite of that. I am when you have ugly features isolated, but you put them together and it's gorgeous. Beautiful. This is Jock. and they're gorgeous beautiful you know i was in the telfer store and some lady this is yeah jock was missing in chinatown and i got a call from an uber driver and he's like uh i'm not gonna do the accent but he was like i'm sorry he's indian he's like

your friend left i can't i literally i physically can't uh your friend left a phone i'll just do a daily accident stuff um period and i was like wow um i was like i was like isn't that guy crazy because i was like i was like so annoyed with jock because we were supposed to be doing work like three hours before this i was working on the movie and jock was just like i'm coming ben i swear i'm on my way and i was like i don't even care anymore and i was like isn't that guy like crazy he's like your friend is really wild man i was like i know right he's like i'm going to the airport but i'll come back later and i was like okay put it on a flight okay exactly it's actually he was hit by a car he's put the phone on the flight yeah he's dead you can do whatever you want with so yeah give it to your daughter um what did jock get in the telvar store

well i knew jock was going in the telvar store well i knew jock was going to the telvar store so i finished my work and i was like i'm gonna let him suffer for an hour um but as always me trying to suffer me trying to make jock suffer back loses something in new york you can just walk it to the telvar well he was having an amazing time at the telvar store and didn't care because he knew i was going to come save him yeah he went up to the person at the front of the telfer store crying and it was like a when a kid gets lost in a supermarket like yeah literally um we have a very special guy up here wait in front waiting for you i walked in and there's this like giant partition on either side and i saw purple velour, just like the ankle, purple velour track pants and the brightest

white shoes I've ever seen. I was like, I know that's him. And then I hear him talking. He's like, Allah, give me all of it, please. I love you so much. And I was like, this fucking asshole. Was he with Delphar? He's been shopping for an hour and a half.

Was he with Delphar? No. He was with a girl I recognize her and I don't know her name, but she was very nice. But we were talking,

I was making fun of Jock and she was like, you are so, you guys are crazy. It's like two crazy white boys like fighting in the Delphar store. Yeah, you showed up

and you were like, you fucking kill yourself now. Not even kidding. I was like, you know your mom knows you're missing. She didn't even care you're missing.

She didn't call me to try to come find you. Wait, how did his mom know. I was like, you know, your mom knows you're missing. She didn't even care you're missing. She didn't call me to try to come find you. Wait, how did his mom know? She was like, who's this psycho that just came to pick up Jacques? How does Jacques' mom know

that he's missing when he's in another city? I'm taking it back. I can explain it. I called a mutual friend of ours in Louisiana and I was like, Jacques is missing.

My mom doesn't know what country I'm in. Jacques is missing. I was like, Jacques is missing in Manhattan. It's like big in the city, but. Yeah. jock is my mom doesn't know what country i'm in yeah i was like jock is missing um in manhattan it's like big big in the city but yeah um and kyla our hr person was like um she was like okay all um i'll see if anyone reaches out to me and jock borrowed someone's phone in the telphar store

and the only number he remembers by heart is his mother's phone number of course nine one one yeah so he called his mom he's like mom can you can you tell kyla to tell ben to come get me and she doesn't have your number well she does and kyla was like i'm busy um so she's like i told jock's mom to just call you and she didn't call me for an hour so i was like jock no one cares your mom does your mom is done with trying to make your life work and um then the salesperson so that it's a you need to like write hit your address on his arm in sharpie when he gets to new york the way that you do with a drunk person or dog tax yeah the way that you write a number on a drunk person so it's like they get lost, like people know how to call.

Dan, my arm fell off. I can't climb all the way home. That would be a surefire way to get his arm run over by a train. Well, Jacques and I keyed that weekend. We had a little key at Fame Kills. I was so sad.

That was the very same day. He lives a crazy life. In the Telepart store, for the record, it's like, you know, a very, it's like a bodega,

you know, like a lot of those stores are. Just like bright white light. And I was wearing an all denim outfit. So my eyes were just like, like so. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I only imagine what I looked like yelling at him. And then the girl was like, she was just throwing me around like not physically but like emotionally um she was like your eyes are terrifying and i was like okay i was like okay like and then jock was like ah isn't he so fucking scary then they were ragging on me she's like no but no seriously like are you a model i was like i'm not

a model she's like you could be a model but like a commercial for halloween stories she was like you know like a commercial model and i was like okay she's like are you cuban and i was like what are you and she's like well i was like it was just it was such a disorienting experience it's all questions that like get you to the core but you kind of have to know you yeah yeah she was right on with a lot of it i mean um what would you do what what would you do if you walked into party city with someone you were looking for something someone screamed no and you had um you saw like a rack and there was a plastic mask that was like exactly your face and it said it said gay gay freak because you know

it's like a Jay Leno knows and it's like talk show fate yeah prosthetic yeah because they can't say Jay Leno yeah yeah

evil gay podcaster what if it just said Ben Mora I would they're like fucking I would 1000% bring them to court they all start

scrambling when they see me walking in on the CCTV yeah hide the mask hide the mask no they think it the masks. Hide the masks. No, they think it's just someone in the costume. Yeah.

Nope. That's okay. Are the levels good? Yeah, I think they're... It looks like we're kind of peaking on yours. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was reaching over to turn mine down. But, yeah.

Then she brought over another sales associate. I'm standing in line with Josh. Yeah, just say the same thing. And I get a tap on my shoulder i turn around and they the original bully of mine is just like look at it look at it yeah who's like another like check this shit out that's so cool black lady she's like oh my oh my god that's so cool i didn't get them i was like i don't know why i was like is this how you guys sell stuff you bully people and they were just they know you weren't buying that shit

what if she was like there's a special dinner I'd like to invite you to and you went and it was like a dinner for schmucks thing where it's like bring the biggest freak to the party that's literally how I've been invited to tell tell them again that you like men tell them like that's the weird thing about you

tell them everything you do what's wrong with that this one's up really high. You're hitting, like, red. Okay, I'll turn mine down. Sorry, everyone, for the loudness. We're in person. Hopefully Max will fix this. This will be another iconic...

Max, fix this. Shut up. We're drinking wine. We're keying. You can deal with a little volume adjustment. It's just our only real episode this week. Not the only real one, but it's like the only like

regular episode. Yeah, the last one we released was Sirius. Yeah. What was the last one? It was me, Max, and Noah Colvin talking about El Salvador. God damn. How fucked up it is. Yeah. And what about before that? Before that, it was Show Pig. God damn.

Well, that was last week. That was last week. Y'all really need... Shut up. Y'all hungry. Well, we're feeding them. Y'all hungry. Y'all hungry, ain't ya?

We're feeding them today. We're feeding them today. Topical news. Luigi, did you see? I don't know. I mean, this is just what everyone is saying on Twitter. Who knows? They're not legal scholars,

but they didn't read Luigi his Miranda rights at the McDonald's. Even though there were like 10 copies there. As so many do. They do not have to read you the Miranda rights. They do. When they arrest you, they have to read you your Miranda rights. It happens all the time when stuff gets

thrown out of court because they haven't read they didn't properly inform someone of their rights upon arrest. How could they not do it for this case? They didn't. Because cops are stupid. Yeah, I forget. Was it did they have local PD pick them up or did they come out? I think it was like

Altoona, Pennsylvania. Those people don't know what to do. That's possible. Usually, apparently, what they do is they take you back because't know what to do. Usually, apparently, what they do is they take you back. All they have to do... If they place you under arrest, I think they have to read you your rights. But they have like 48 hours to do it.

No. Anything that you say before you... Canon will be held against you in a court of law. No, but anything that you say without being Mirandized can't be put into anything. That's not true at all put into anything that's not true at all but that's not true at all if you went up to a cop and said i just killed a guy they would they could arrest you before they and they just couldn't say but you weren't i wasn't under

i think it probably depends on the circumstances of the arrest if he said anything but they arrested him so they arrested him but i think the the point is that our listeners stomachs grumbling grumbling it's like we someone look up miranda you about miranda you can argue more about i'm speaking of miranda rights we were supposed to watch the sex in the city oh my god miranda writes down and ben decided i was working on other stuff yeah that's fine shut up um yeah we're supposed to yeah shut up i also have 10 other topics we We were going to do a topical Sex and the City movie review. And Ben and I had an idea cooked up where we travel back in time and play three gay guys from 2004. Oh, that would be fun.

I think we're still doing it. Yeah. Back in time, bitch. Back in time. I didn't know we had to go back in time for that one. Okay. Forward in time for you, Betty Boop. We're going forward in time

one second. Oh my god. This is my time machine. Okay, so a person must be read the Miranda rights when they are both in police custody and being interrogated. If both of these conditions are met and the police fail to read the Miranda rights warning, any statements made may be inadmissible in court.

However, spontaneous or voluntary statements, Luigi do not do either of those, not prompted by questioning, can still be used. I should have my soundboard. I actually have a soundboard for the show. I need to learn how to use it. Wait, give it to me. I'll set it up. It's my bitch. It's my soundboard.

I guess we're never going to do it. Going forward, the three of you should have three separate soundboards. Dueling soundboards? Jacques would be like, wait, wait. You should just unplug separate sound boards. Dueling sound boards. Jacques would be like, wait, wait. You just unplug his. Yeah. So he thinks it's... No, one will come.

I'll get to work on it when I'm back from Louisiana. I'm planning a lot of stuff for the show. I don't know if I like the idea of you having the sound board. Well, buy your own and do it. It's too much power. Why don't you do it? I'll do it. Do it.

I'll buy one. So it seems like Luigi the evidence might be found admissible in court and if he gets off, it's going to be like amazing. I'm going to get off. Exactly. We're all getting off. Yeah, you know what I mean? He's going to be fucked to death.

He's going to I'm going to read him his Samantha rights. I'm going to read right. That's so good. Holy shit. You have the right to get it. Samantha Wright. That's so good. Holy shit. What would the Samantha Wright sound like? You have the right to get your cock sucked. You have the right to get your ass in bed. You have the right to take off that shirt. Exactly.

Yeah, you have the right to buy me a drink. You have the right to remain silent in my bed. Okay, nice. Let me fix your back problems for you. This is called the reverse arch. She would be like having him fuck her and then lean backwards and shit for his back problems.

Honey, anything you spray can be used against you. Nice. It will be used inside of you. Period. Bushwick Samantha? Bushwick Samantha? That's a good character

trans trans mask Sam Bushwick Sam my mortal enemy already trans man honey spray I'd like to bend him over

guy it really changes the anything you spray I'd like to bend him over as a trans guy it really changes the tenor when it's a guy yeah it's really bad hopefully here's to my man Luigi going free I mean people are I still of course find him to be

incredibly sexy even though he's so sexy that even though the like mass amount of like corny memes and behavior around him um it had that hasn't stopped me from finding him sexy and usually anyone who gets that kind of treatment loses some sheen you know loses some sexiness but he maintains it because he is just truly that sexy yeah i kind of like i think the peak was his the initial he like he had that huge peak i kind of like i think the peak was his the initial he like he had that huge peak where everybody was finding out everything it was kind of the sexiest

he's gonna get i don't think he's gonna like prove himself to be sexier than kind of the mysterious nature so it's like i'm kind of checked out until something big happens honestly the more photos i see the sexier he gets of course but a huge part of it is like who he is what he did like it's it's not just like you wouldn't just see that picture on yeah okay but there are absolutely if i saw that if i saw that profile picture on an app i would absolutely he is sexy well of course of course but i'm not he's not you wouldn't be sexy because of what but you wouldn't be talking about him on a podcast because he's that sexy i'd mention oh yeah. No, yeah. If he didn't do anything notable, yeah, we probably wouldn't be talking. That's what I'm saying.

I'm like, he is sexy. I would maybe even be like, wow, I saw this really hot guy. Yeah. I can see that. Yeah, it's pretty dry for you. Exactly. It's pretty dry. Exactly.

I saw an oasis in the desert. Exactly. Exactly. But yeah, I don't know. He's probably so annoying, though. I don't know his he would probably be he's probably so annoying though like i don't know if you hung out with him he seems so chill i mean he's like a finance bro he's like a tech i love finance finance bros and tech bros it's the same thing whenever like they're actually fun to hang out with they are they get they get this they get the same they get the treatment that like jocks in high school got where it's like these guys are

like conventionally attractive they're into sports they're into like these i'd say 60 of them are annoying well i will tell you this like they were never the homophobic ones they were never rude it tech guys aren't the homophobic i'm talking i'm making it oh no jocks this is true yeah and i'm saying that jocks were never the enemy in high school um that we were fed to believe that jocks were the enemy because of... The biggest pick-me argument I've ever heard. It's true. Gay guy explaining why jocks are really

cool. They are really cool. Nerds are the evil ones. Hell no. I was like friends with everyone. I mean, yes, but that's still better. On the hockey team because I was so funny though. Exactly. I'm just saying I think the same thing will be found to be true of a

handful of finance guys and tech guys not at the top and I think Luigi granted what he's done is of course what did he do again he exercised his carry rights exactly

his carry rights open carry he opened carry You know what he did? He exercised his carry rights. Exactly. His carry rights. Open carry, honey. Open carry, darling. He opened carry. Open carry. I'd rather open big. Those, uh... Gross.

The sidewalk was running... Transmask Sam. The sidewalk was running Charlotte with his blood. Nice. Nice. Instead of Scarlet. Scarlet. A tough one. A reach. A tough one, but you landed it. Yeah, Nice. Instead of Scarlet. I got it. A tough one.

A reach. A tough one, but you landed it. Yeah, yeah. I think it worked. I got it immediately. But yeah, he still has his lawyer,

Diddy. Lost his. Which, funny enough, that was his, Luigi's lawyer is a woman. Okay, first of all, what's funny about that?

Was her husband. Yeah, why are you laughing ben funny enough his lawyer was a jack off motion when he said that yeah yeah a woman i mean he made a boob honking motion i love when women are unprofessional well also the thing before we move on to diddy the thing i saw about luigi was that yeah they like broke chain of custody on the gun on the gun in the backpack yeah so if So if that, if the gun, if all of the evidence is inadmissible in court, the gun, the backpack,

what do they have against him? It's all just like circumstantial evidence. Also, why did he keep the gun? Well, there's a lot of stuff that's fishy. Not fishy, but just like, you know, first of all, I think like, I don't know. I might've kept the gun. Like guns are cool

if i shot someone in the head with a gun the first thing i would do is get rid of it yeah yeah yeah it's like a 3d printed gun like just i don't smash it it was it no it was a real gun wasn't it it was 3d printed partially it was 3d printed yeah or at least the hard to obtain part was 3d printed that's so sick that's yeah it's like a huge moment for like open, well, I guess it was actually kind of like a huge step back for open like 3D printer people. What would you call Rosa Parks getting kicked off the bus?

Well, no, but I mean, as far as like shoe companies, because she had to walk off the bus. People like lobbying against it. Yeah, for sure. I mean, they should. Yeah.

It is insane. You can just print off a gun. Well, Diddy, so, okay, so a couple of years ago, Gaga, so Gaga and Diddy used to, okay. So, a couple of years ago, Gaga. So, Gaga and Diddy used to have the same lawyer. And Gaga told her lawyers, I won't.

Like, I'm switching lawyers unless you move. Relative of yours, this lawyer? Yeah, exactly. But it was pre all the Diddy stuff. And so, people look back and they say, oh, she knew. Well, they all knew. Of course, they all knew. Anyone who has a Grammy knows about that. and also like hollywood people are like but nobody else distanced like that yeah but she's probably just got a new lawyer she probably she didn't they they switched look

they dropped she made him to keep him she made the lawyer lawyers dropped diddy to keep gaga so it's like something was up well you know what that means how do we know what that means from a lawyer's perspective it means that she was raping more people. Yes, she was raping. There was more work for that. There was more work. This is a way bigger cash cow. This rape best.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we ditched Diddy. He hasn't raped nearly as much. Well, anyone. Anyone. Yeah. And Gaga's over here just tricking those gay guys out. And so they were like, look, just weigh the bags.

Do you think Gaga's had sex with a gay guy? She could coerce a gay man into sex. Absolutely. I mean, I think maybe pre-2011, there's probably, she had some like bisexual funny. No, because she famously was like, I'm not,

wasn't she like, I'm not having sex with anyone? No, she was like a bisexual. It was always her thing. But she was like, her sexuality thing was, she was always like, I don't think Katy Perry's really kissed a woman.

Yeah, it's true. It's true. Yeah. But I always thought, wasn't she like, my vagina's my source of power? So I won't do anything with that. Because I remember specifically... You're thinking Jill Stein.

I mean, you would know if anyone was. I'm talking about her yoni at a presidential party. So I'm not sleeping with anyone right now. I am bisexual, but I'm closed for business down there. What the hell is Jill Stein? Gone fishing. The question was, what are you going to do about the deficit?

Gone fishing down there. What the hell is Jill up to? I love that bitch. She's so funny. Yeah. She's a key. What does she do after presidential elections? I'm not saying this is something like-

Bernie's still asking for money. Well, Bernie's still doing. He's still an elected official. What is Jill? Is Jill Stein... And I'm not even saying this in an anti-Jill way. I would have voted for Jill. I love Jill.

I love the Green Party. But I am kind of like... She's making dream catchers now. Yeah. She's spending all the money she made on developing a wooden tampon. Exactly. Yes. She moved to

Joshua Tree and she's just keying by the campfire. She's so cool. She's knitting. I love her. She's so cool. Somewhere she's the coolest professor at a liberal arts college. Oh, yes. Yeah, like Evergreen. Oh, yes. She's so PNW. Yeah. Or like Berkeley. She's probably more berkeley and money not what's

the one in amherst hampshire yeah i think so yeah hampshire um i went to hampshire to visit a friend one time and they were like smoking weed in the quad period and my um like a teacher came in with his kid and the kid was running around. I was like, yo, put that out. Put that out. And my friend was like, nah, it's fine. And gave a hit to the teacher.

And the kid. Yeah, and the kid. And we all raped the kid together. Just kidding. Samantha moment. That kid is looking promising honey oh no not not pedophiles that child is looking very supple you know the shorter they are the bigger the penis the shorter they are the bigger the piece it's because it's because the penis weighs them down

and they can't grow the gravity doesn't it's because their penis weighs them down and they can't grow the gravity doesn't allow i've got a busy schedule sweet all sweet 16s this weekend she's at the playground she's like sees a kid with a terrible parent and she's like oh i'm zeroing in honey sorry i'll teach him how to behave he's like carrie's like is it okay to date a Republican? Samantha's like, hang on, sweetheart. Honey, my boyfriend's 14. Hang on, sweetheart. Honey, how old is he? Is he seven or six?

This little boy is lost. Is it okay to date a Republican? Honey, he's seven. He can't vote. Well, you know, seven, eight, nine. Carrie, meet me in my van. Meet me in my van. That's amazing.

They're having the back and forths that they have at restaurants but they're in the back of a van with radar equipment it's an ice cream truck it's called sex at the playground yeah that's good that's good yeah new show we're going to pitch. And Charlotte, Miranda and Carrie are the same. Miranda and Carrie are exactly the same, but Charlotte is like, I want to find a child I can marry. That's her difference. Yeah, exactly.

What's the actress's name? Kim Cattrall. I can see Kim Cattrall signing on for Pedophile Samantha Samantha a solo show just to tank she would do that sooner than she would just sign on to the reboot she's on the reboot

she's shot separately one phone call no she's coming back it's gonna be the same they're gonna shoot her separately it's not confirmed to what extent yeah I mean they're definitely she's not gonna be on screen with them could you imagine how much money they gave her

oh a boatload well they were offering her a bunch of cash how many kids they gave her I want my paycheck and children she's so cool demanding her paycheck and candy me and Gaga have the same lawyer give me my pay in all tens

what if Gaga was like, I don't want to have the same lawyer as Diddy because I'm racist. And that was the reason why. That'd be cool. Yeah. I don't think it would be cool. That wouldn't explain

why she worked with R. Kelly on the song. Yeah. She didn't realize. She was like, wait. I mean, on the real, she definitely had to have known about... R. Kelly? All of it. Well, did she?

She never worked with. Yeah, but she's at parties. Oh, yeah, no. I mean, of course she did, because she told them. She made them drop him as a client. So, like, of course she knew. I'm kind of surprised that Gaga, given all of her, like, theatrics and kind of hysterics didn't like drop

an album about like rape in the industry because for a while she was like tying herself to every social cause she's kind of a queen for not like she was so like hrc her like makeup stuff was all gay but oh makeup stuff i mean she was from day one little she like foundation yeah literally changed public perception of gay she like changed she made gay people like she passed honestly fuck her for that fuck her no seriously she made she made it she made the worst kind of gay guy except no no people after her did that Dua Lipa did that she was the first she was the first there's no Dua Lipa gay guys well they there are first. She was the first. Dua Lipa. There's no Dua Lipa gay guys. Oh, wow. Well, there are, and they're just like Chelsea.

That's the bad kind of gay guys. Gaga is still. That's just a vanilla gay guy. Well, they're the spiritual grandchildren of Gaga. Did you see that the, kind of. Well, Gaga gay guys were like bullied children. But if you think about a family tree, it branches out so far at the bottom that it's like you can't blame the one at the top for all these ones at the bottom that it's like you can't blame the one at the top for all these ones at the bottom.

Gaga and Dua Lipa have 300 years of reproduction between them? Sorry that her music is so good that it draws a decade of a lot of... Who's the midpoint? Between who? Gaga and Dua Lipa? Yeah. Who's the midpoint then? If there's functionally 300 years of

reproduction. I didn't say 300. You laid out the argument. You said Gaga's a tree. Where'd you get 300? No, I'm saying you say all the gay guys now suck. I'm saying that is just one branch of what Gaga created.

I think a better allegory for it is a snowball effect. Gaga was the first tiny snowball. Then it just rolls down for it is a snowball effect and gaga was the first tiny like you know snowball no because there's and then it just rolls down that faggy mountain freaky deekies out here that claim gaga that don't fall into that like annoying category well sure yeah like exception like gen period like whatever yeah i think i think it was it was kind of just like the original like corporate gay yeah good music is good music, I think.

Come on. No, I don't think so. No. I'm not talking about the music. I'm saying culturally, Gaga was literally one of the first. Well. GLAAD, HRC. She was doing that big.

Yes, but she was kind of the first to do that. That's what I'm saying. She wasn't being indoctrinated into any kind of thing. Well, first of all. She was like... In 2007, 2008, those were not these tired... Nearly the tired machines they are now.

She's the proto version of that, but that doesn't mean that her legacy is the same as someone that doesn't. I'm saying fuck her for that. She was like 20 and liked Hillary Clinton. So what? Who among us? What did Hillary Clinton do to her? know, so what? Like, who among us? What did she do to her?

Not me. What did Hillary Clinton do to her? Well, not when I was 20, but I was like, oh, a woman. I never liked Hillary. I hated all women in politics. Yeah. I believe it. What about Jill Stein?

You just said you liked her. She's not really in politics. We got it. We got it. She's more of a personal brand. I was watching the snl episode with dave chappelle recently yeah and he had a pretty he had a pretty funny monologue but during it he said um people were like you must have gone to those those ditty parties and i was like

he said like not getting invited to parties like that finding out that you weren't invited is a funny way to find out that you're ugly. And I was like, bitch, you weren't invited because you're annoying as fuck. Also, I feel like he was invited. He's trying to create distance. He was definitely invited. Also, I did see that monologue,

and the camera work on it is so crazy because it's pointed right at his crotch. He's sitting on a stool, and you can see his camel camel nose just a little industry talk it's so it's so funny when they panned over you can see his like entire dick i didn't in his pants it is nuts it's crazy i don't accept when they shot him on that dolly i was thinking what's the focus on this exactly this is our industry what's the focus read what's the focus who's the puller who's pulling focus focus on this one who's pulling focus oh let's check the credits see who pulled focus on this one who's the second seat who's the second cam operator oh interesting it's the

second wow this is really crisp who was running d on dit on this one who's running who did crafty for this who did they look well they look really nourished they look nour. Who did crafty for this? They look well fed. They look really nourished. Who did crafty on this? They look so skinny. Who did crafty on this? Who was in charge of crafting? Everyone's so skinny.

Wicked being like, who ran craft services? They had the worst food. That's why everyone's so skinny. First Academy Award winning movie to forget about craft services. To forget to do it. No! did you guys i've been getting a lot of guys guys did you did you two men happen to hear this segue smooth segue of the century hey guys um but speaking of actually speaking of speaking of men um have you been uh keeping abreast with the brigitte macron transvestigation i've been a little bit i've been kind of wrapped up in the

amelia um perez uh blowback yeah yeah well that's another thing we can talk about that but i want to get into brigitte because yes candace owens is like she's so fun she's so funny she's going crazy on it she's released like she released a four-part like video essay investigative piece about brigitte macron being secretly her brother the theory is that her yes that she um that Jean Trogno she was born as Jean-Michel Trogno and then transitioned at some age

and that there's also another little wrinkle here where I forget the exact scamming that happened to make this happen as Candace Owens would say but her kind of takeaway is that Brigitte Macron is not only

a transgender woman but that she is also the father of Emmanuel Macron her now husband okay now we are getting into this is crazier than Bevy I know it's crazy I'm like can't i'm like

candace you're going nuts she's dating her own father even bevy yes yes emmanuel macron emmanuel i'll put it from emmanuel's point of view emmanuel macron has been groomed by his transgender father into a marriage okay that's crazy because like the furthest bevy will go with like intergenerational she'll put a little bubble next to someone that's like, take them back to the orphanage or something. She'll say some shit like, for sure. But she's not going to be like, that's the child of this.

She absolutely wouldn't. I'm not saying she hasn't said it, but that bitch will say anything. Ben, Ben, can I explain something to you? Sure. First of all, it's all of them. It can be no other way. Second of all, everything that's happening before us, everything they're doing is a stage play. It's all a play.

It's all a farce. The characters are here, and they're rubbing it in our faces. Bevy has a certain way of looking at the world that is macro and micro, but doesn't really extend to these people did these things with these people. It's very like whatever image

she's looking at. She's a structuralist. Exactly. It's whatever image she's looking at at the moment, and then when that image is away, it's only macro. She's a dialectical materialist. She's not diving into the individual connections. She doesn't say this person did this with this person and that's

what caused this thing I do think that Betty would believe this if one person said it I'm sure she would I'm sure she would I'll tell you also why she wouldn't believe this is because she sees Candace Owens and what does she see a man yep so true I was gonna I wanted to transvestite candy

okay um I've been transvestiting candy over here. Jen is eating candy. When you eat candy, exactly. What do you think about Brigitte? Conspiracy theory aside, just say I showed you a photo of Brigitte Macron.

Let's transvesticate her for fun. She dresses well. She dresses. She looks amazing. I think she looks amazing, but I absolutely see it, I'll be honest. Yeah. She's tall.

She's skinny. She's got big male teeth. Whoa. She has really... You think she doesn't have veneers? Those could be... No, they're not. Oh, girl.

She's French. You see her mouth? Her mouth is very... It's not veneers. It would be funny to get fucked up veneers though to be more natural as a french woman i'm sorry frenchman um brigitte macron no her teeth are like they kind of jut forward i for the record i do think brigitte macron is a beautiful woman um i i can see it also because the hair

is so wig to me. Let me see. It looks like it's growing out of one follicle. It looks like my new haircut. No, it doesn't. Or not a haircut. Her volume is out of control.

Jen said that it looked like I was wearing a wig. She looks like Biden. I can see a little bit looks like Biden she does kind of I can see a little bit of Joe Biden here yeah trans Biden it's like Yossified Biden yeah exactly what's trans but Yossified

and I also I will be honest here let's say that she is Emmanuel Macron's biological mother Let's say that she is Emmanuel McCrone's biological mother. Yeah. A trans-America style biological mother. Them side by

side, I'm like, okay, I also see it. I'm like, I also see it. Let me see. Of course I know it's not fake, but I think these things kind of work because hey, you look at one photo, it could be true. I need to speak to her drag mother

yeah the thing have the same smile yeah they're both French though like you just like you said I mean all like how would bevy caption this she would say bring your daddy to work day

daddy daughter dance later She would say, bring your daddy to work day. Exactly. Daddy daughter dance later. Yeah, yeah. I think she's great. I love her. No, I think she's just old. I think when a woman is old and of a certain age, sometimes they just stop. They become more masculine looking.

Well, everyone kind of ages into being a little non-binary. Yeah, exactly. I think when you're very young, very old, you kind of are just a little non-binary. It diverges and then reconverges. She's trying to suck her penis into her body. Exactly. She's trying to self-suck. Let me see.

She's self-sucking there. Yeah, she's self-sucking. She's in a pretzel. Her legs are in a pretzel. She's self-sucking. Her eye makeup is-sucking she's in a pretzel her legs are in a pretzel eye makeup is crazy there that's like avril lavigne style that's also part of it's like okay you're wearing so much makeup what are you trying to hide yeah but i mean so is um so is like every nancy pelosi yeah well well well bad example come, that guy? That fella? That hunk? Nando Pelosi. Yeah, I mean, Candace is so funny. I mean, she got fired from her job.

Ben Shapiro fired her because she was speaking out about Palestine, and now she's doing this independent show. And to me, I'm like, oh, she's like, yes, she probably has more editorial freedom, not that the Daily Mail or Daily Caller or whatever wouldn't have ran the Brigitte Macron transgender story. But it's also like Candace is like, all right, I got to be a little crazy.

I got to be a little crazy and I got to start clocking these hoes. I don't even think the Daily Wire would have ran it. Because I feel like it's not... It's one of those ones that isn't respectable. It's like two out there. they have like transgender university students they can like bully on instagram reels yeah exactly they they they can be like talk about litter boxes in school class yeah and shit um but i get it candace as a troll you know you just you gotta it feel yeah yeah you gotta go for when

you you know yeah when these bitches are in front you gotta clock them listen as a pund know you just you gotta it feel yeah yeah you gotta go for when you you know yeah when these bitches are in front you gotta clock them listen as a pundit you gotta you gotta play the hands you're dealt industry solidarity with candace owens is the line on the show like i have to give credit if i wouldn't be mad if joan rivers said it i have to let candace owens say it it's also so true you know yeah yeah it's like true i i can't pick and choose what of what comes out of her mouth to be mad at or i can't i can't blanket i wish joan rivers was still alive she was so fucking funny she would be she was she would absolutely be calling reggie mcronum right exactly like she and candace would have an amazing like

talk show no you know what candace no cand it's candace candace no candace wouldn't candace would absolutely not fuck with joan rivers candace is an absolute she kind of like anyone she's like a wet blanket yeah moralist she actually hates people because she is truly like i am christian i'm upstanding she loves looking down on people that i mean it it is kind of why her transvestite stuff could never be funny in the way that Joan Rivers could or Bevy could. Candace is such... She's a party pooper.

She's just such a moralist. She's such a... She's not looking for laughs. She's just a Christian American homophobic person. If she just did a couple Netflix stand-up specials, she would be such a warmer person. No, she's not such a warmer person. No, she's not funny either. That's what I mean.

We need a little more comedian with it. I don't think she doesn't have that bandwidth in her soul. She doesn't have it in like... She can't do it on the camera. I also think it's kind of funny that she's pro-Palestine, but it's for the reason that she's like uh pro-palestine but it's for the reason that she's just genuinely anti-semitic and that's like the only i mean whatever yeah yeah take it you can get you know i mean i mean i from i'll say this i do not know what her entire um

well i don't know what her entire line on palestine was i did just see her in like you know in a couple of months the months after october 7th she was getting bookings on like what her entire line on Palestine was. I did just see her in the months after October 7th. She was getting bookings on Piers Morgan. And she was being like, Israel is blowing up children. And that is really fucking abhorrent. The closest I saw her

kind of tailor that line of thinking to her worldview was just saying, this is unchristian. You're blowing up children. Anyone who is Christian cannot stand by this. Andristian like you're blowing up children like anyone who is christian cannot stand by this and i was like honestly candace like yeah cooked i mean she's saying it on pierce morgan i'm like there is there's well if that's what she was saying then i think that i have no doubt she's probably anti-semitic oh yeah i mean but but what i was picturing was her reading like oh oh, Hamas ate 100 babies.

She's like, yes! Oh, Hamas ate. Queen. But yeah, Candace could be a little clocked herself, I'd say. I'd say that much. You know what time it is. She's lucky.

She has... She is beautiful. Yeah, she is beautiful. She has like creepy little doll eyes. Yeah. You don't see that? Yeah, I mean, she is beautiful. She has creepy little doll eyes. Yeah. You don't see that? Yeah, I mean, she's very... She kind of looks like if Bob's Burgers,

you know, the little guy, it was a black woman. Bob? Yeah, Bob. No, like the... If Bob from Bob's Burgers. No, no, no. The guy is like the...

Can I see a picture of her? It's the guy that's the little... He's holding up the hamburger. It's like a statue. No, it's like the guy that's the little... He's holding up the hamburger. It's like a statue. No, it's like the... There's no one on Bob's Burgers. It's not the TV show. The guy.

Not the TV show. It's like the real Bob's Burgers. It's a real Bob's Burgers. Is it Burger Boy? What is Burger Boy? He kind of looks like me. I know what you're thinking of. The big guy in Los Angeles

that's holding the thing. You're thinking of The Simpsons. No, I'm not. It's like a statue for a burger restaurant. I think you are somehow thinking of both the Simpsons and this real statue that exists. In the Simpsons, there's a statue of a guy. No, it's like a burger. He's holding a donut.

He's holding a donut. No. He's holding a donut, Ben. Yeah, you're thinking of the Simpsons donut. I'm not. No, you're not thinking of the Simpsons. You're thinking of... I know exactly what I'm thinking of. I'm thinking of Shawnee's big boy. Let me see. This guy bitches him.

Yeah. Candace Owens looks like this if that guy was a black woman. Interesting. That looks like you. I did say we look alike. That's you. I did say we look alike. Wait, look up Candace Owens.

It's kind of the male version of you. Right? Okay, to what I was trying to say, if this statue... Yeah, I see it. Look up Candace Owens. If big boy burger statue was a black woman it would look like Ken Soans. I would be pissed.

That's what I'm trying to say here. If you would let me speak. I think that there was a... I see what you mean. You don't see it? Where is she? Can I see a picture of her?

I think that there is a one-to-one know can you can i see a picture of her yeah i think that there is a one-to-one parody of that guy in the simpsons and that's what hessa and i were thinking of because you started there's a bigger there's a more important version of that in no i'm just thinking it's just a big donut i didn't know like never mind see yo shut up yeah there's a no in the sentence he is holding a donut that's the guy the guy in the simpsons yeah thank you it's a riff on i was trying Simpsons, he is holding a donut. That's the guy in the Simpsons is holding a donut. Yeah, thank you. But it's a riff on.

I was trying to pull you out of that hole you dug yourself into. And you just. And I. Oh my God. I hesitated. I hesitated and you pulled a rope up. Did you know how old Candace Holmes is?

67. No. What is that? I thought Candace Holmes was 67. 34. No, she's 52. Whoa, let me see her. I'm kidding, she's not.

She's 35. Imagine she's holding a burger and she has a rockabilly haircut. Let me see. Right? I guess. Right? I mean, she has kind of like default face.

I don't honestly know. Yeah, I have no idea what you're talking about. I have no clue what you're talking about. I have no clue what you're talking about. No, it's crazy. She doesn't have like a 1950s white boy doll. I think no clue what you're talking about. I have no clue what you're talking about. No, it's crazy. She doesn't have like a 1950s white boy doll. I think you're thinking that because she's wearing like a gingham

suit. I've always thought that about her. It has nothing to do with that. That she's wearing a gingham suit? She looks like Big Boy Burger, but a black lady. Is she Asian? Candace Owens? No, she's black. She's no Asian? She's pretty. Why would she be Asian? She kind of looks like

Asian Black Meg. What? She looks like... I love that we're race-vestigating Candace Owens. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She looks like... To me, she looks kind of...

She looks like she got like... There's a bit of Cameron Diaz about her. She got like 15% Islander in her. She's... I would imagine... I will transvest...

I will race-vestigate her right now. I will say that she probably has some Haitian heritage. Yes, but I... She kind of looks like a Pacific Island looks the same cameron diaz also from the caribbean exactly that's what i'm saying yeah candace owens jewish 100 percent uh she is a third of four children her parental grandfather was robert owens a black american who's born in north car. Owens is also of Caribbean American heritage through her St. Thomas US Virgin Islands.

The way I knew she was a little islandy. I mean, it's not. I'm sure. I'm sure a lot of descendants of slaves have some island vibe. Yeah. She's so chill. She's so chill. She's so chill. She's so chill. She's so chill she's so chill she's so chill she's so

chill and live and let be and party margaritaville is the song i associate with her very heavily yeah yeah it's the song that all island nations hear me now Hear me now. Exactly. So chill. I love Candace though. She has like I don't. I don't think I would hate. I don't think she can hate.

She has a kind of like high camp thing about her. Yeah. I understand her politics are egregious. Like Jacob Bowles style. Like she's too ridiculous to be taken seriously.

You're right. But she walks out on stage as like she's staring down Michelle Basag. I see. This is like drag race. I literally see her as like a drag queen. Yeah, exactly. That she walks out on stage is like she's staring down Michelle Visage at the end. I see her as like drag race. I literally see her

as like a drag queen. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, no, I do see that. I know it's like gay brain disease because she is, of course, affecting a lot of

horrible politics and discourse or whatever, but I'm like, I do resent this part of me because it's bad, but I am like, work diva. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Lipsync runway. And she does the protocols of the elders of Zion. She's literally like, all trans people are pedophiles. I'm like, yes, mama. Period. I'm like, yes, it is a mental disease. Welcome to the room.

It's not a good impulse to have, but what can you do, y'all? Do you have anyone like that? High camp, right wing figures um let me think candace is i mean of course and then i mean high camp right wait let me say this i mean besides the obvious like the like milo like kind of yeah so boring it's not even worth talking about milo is so desperate that i'm like it's not relevant at all it's a low camp and like yeah it's like despicable right it's like it's like a high

school theater camp. I mean Jacob Wall, Lua Loomer obviously Lua Loomadeva. Oh I will say. Tomi Lahren. Yeah she's kind of boring. She's kind of irrelevant though. Yeah Laura Southern, Tomi Lahren. I love Nick Fuentes' crap out psycho shit

because it is it is literally Jack drag like you can tell whenever I see him speak like on his show and he's just like gesticulating like crazy like all manic and I'm like this is if you told a drag queen to do Hitler yeah no I it's

he's doing Alex Jones like young Alex Jones when he's on his show that is very drag ass I'd like to be doing young Alex Jones. Exactly. More like a child named Alex. Really, really, really young Alex Jones. Pedophile Samantha's back.

There we go. You look like you would have been hot when you were younger. Dang, that's so rude. Too bad you're 16. How old are you, sweetie? Speaking of high camp queens, I watched the Hilaria reality TV show.

Yeah, how was it? When you were supposed to be watching Sex and the City 1 and 2 movies. You say you've seen 2, but I don't think you remember how crazy it is. They go to Abu Dhabi and they ride camels. You do not know how crazy it is. I've literally seen it.

I was on mushrooms in my old apartment. I believe that it's been on the screen while you've been in the room. You're right. It was on the screen while I was disassociated. But you haven't seen

like Abu Dhabi do. No, I don't give a fuck about Sex and the City. I know because you've never seen it. I don't like it. I don't care. I don't care about those women. It's the most annoying thing in the world

when Ben won't watch an episode and then makes a point out of not watching it. Do you know how hard it is to be a gay man in New York who's never been to LA or never watched Sex and the City? So just do those things. I don't want to do either of them. Exactly.

And that's my point. And no one can make me. And that's my point. You kept saying it's up to you guys but come on either sexy city or a topical thing well you didn't watch it you've also never seen drag race right whatever you want i mean i have never seen you guys can talk about it i don't watch drag race i mean i don't watch it either of you watch it i don't watch drag either of us watch sexy oh i've seen both of them i've seen it one thousand times yeah i could probably do every word if you guys want to discuss it so bad you can talk about it i brought all the previous topics would you want to talk about sex we'll get there

um i was talking about i was talking about drag race i don't really watch drag race but i respect i've in the last like, I have come to respect what it is. And that took a long time. Is this a screw top? No? I'll bear it back. The thing is in the drawer to the right of the oven. You never watched Drag Race?

I've watched the the first like eight seasons maybe okay so you've watched the majority of canonized drag queen yeah yeah yeah no it's in there you're so jewish i did what did i take plastic forks there's like a thousand well yeah i'm not gonna throw them out what do you mean you're not gonna throw plastic fork um uh you've watched the first eight seasons that's more than me well like that's a lot of what um do you watch season one season one looks like war footage i watched season one like in high school season Season one is shot on like 160p. It's like shot

on a calculator. Yeah, it's shot like the Anna Nicole Smith show cameras. It's crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's insane. And the,

I remember like, I think the second- What's her name? Baby, Baby, BB? What's the winner? I can't remember. What's the girl? It's a crazy one.

It's been so long. She's like grandmother. She's like older than Rue. But I watched the first, what's the season Bianianca del rio's on uh five maybe okay so i've watched up to six maybe six six is like one of the best i've watched one past bianca del rio's season i'm six is the one with laganja estranja estranja um per they say estranja on the show what. Per. They say Estranja on the show.

What? I don't know what it is. Did they say it wrong? Ben is doing something wrong. Period. Thank you, Somalia. Audio engineering.

Thank you. That's the one with like milk. I literally like milk. Oh, milk is amazing. That's season six. Milk is my queen. Yeah. That like season six

was, I've watched one past season six. So I, okay. I never saw season seven. That's kind of where I stopped. But I've watched one past season six so i okay i never saw season seven that's kind of where i stopped but i've watched bits and pieces with an angel so we've watched pretty much the same amount yeah i think um well i haven't seen all of season one and two that's like crazy oh yeah yeah yeah i've watched like three four or five six i i have a distinct memory of watching it with one of my friends in high school and one of my straight friends still straight to this day um and being like this is a really good show like it's crazy once you finally stop

needing to not watch it like i did for like 20 years you needed to watch it needed to not watch it yeah oh yeah once a burgeoning trans woman someone be very of course oh it was so up-putting for my entire life were you guys anti-drag trans oh god yeah no on what basis I wasn't anti-drag

huge anti-drag but I just hated I was just like you thought it was a mockery of cis women I knew a couple people that did drag like in the south

and I thought it was like kind of cool what they did everybody in the north I thought was like total like the shittiest see when I transitioned like all like a lot of my friends were drag queens in total like the shittiest see when i transitioned like all like a lot of my friends were drag queens in boston like because that's a that's like when

guys pretend to be bisexual when they're really gay it's a stepping stone into being a drag no are there trans women who are that are you different it's not i'm not one to one asking it's not one to one i think like certainly some people must be like i'm a drag queen there's a bunch of four former contestants on drag i think like pre-20 like so you could call it a uh a launching pad it was a launching pad before like 2016 now it's kind of like you you don't need a drag and this year they just put let the first ever straight queen on uh bio queen no no straight queen bio queen no no straight man whoa what yeah the straight man there's definitely been one before they claim this is the first one this

season penny hayne wait i'm actually so yeah they've had some some biological like some cis women on there it's so funny that that's the straight man is more they're doing di on and they won't they won't let any so funny that that's like The straight man is more shocking. They're doing DEI on drag.

And they won't let any drag kings on. That's like Rue will never Honestly, good. I hate drag kings. Well, Rue also is very like I will never let trans on

and then they started to come out so then now she has to be like okay, a couple trans but Rue hates it. Yeah. Rue hates trans on.

And the show kind of focuses on how it's like cheating. Because she's not trans. She's like Honestly, I get that but there was a cis woman I'm the queen of drag there's actually this crazy

that's what she wants to be well but then you get into this gray area the more she fracks the more she has to like well but Ben Ben you don't understand you get into this gray area where like I think one of the contestants one time was on hormones, but wasn't an out like trans woman.

Many, there's about like half a dozen. But was like, I'm just do the hormones for my act to like help me. So she's a liar. No, I mean, but what are you going to do? You're going to kick her off? Like you have to test their hormone level? It got too hard to. I think we need hormone testing and drug.

I mean, for the first like eight seasons. To make sure it's only. I mean, Courtney Act wouldn't have made it on if it was need hormone testing and drag. I mean, for the first eight seasons. To make sure it's only... I mean, Courtney Act wouldn't have made it on if it was the hormone testing. I mean, they're all, I feel like... Look, if you don't pass the hormone test, you don't walk the catwalk. Darling, you ever seen Sharon Needles out of drag? What's in the needles, estrogen? Sharon Needles.

Okay, if you remember the name. I said, what's in the needles, estrogen? That's the joke of her name. That's your joke, doesn't... I'm kidding. I don't care. Let trainees do drag. I don't... I'm not watching. I'm kidding. I don't care. Let trainees do drag. I'm not watching it either way.

And I don't care about it either way. Well, I always hated it because I was always like, this is so disgusting. Because what? Why? What was disgusting? Do you know why I hate it? Do you want to know why? I was like, started to not. not because i would like it My personal The moon is shining in the high sky

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