Seeking Derangements - SD 418 - Ben and Jens Summer Plan's

Episode Date: July 11, 2025

VIDEO AVAILABLE ON PATREON Hello Seekers! Ben here, today Jen joins me for a special peak into our Summer plans! Where are we going? Well, to start: a micro-bully convention on the Border...Chengdu...Newport...Tokyo...Grand Isle, Nebraska...New York City...Los Angeles...and more. Plus we discuss Lena Dunham's recent press tour, Arca vs. Sevdaliza, Queer Eye getting canceled, my 80 year old girlfriend and of course, I review my time in Gulf Shores, Alabama. LA, get tickets to Jen's club theatre extravaganza Diskokina!

The And you're in the International House If I start laughing, tell me to stop. Welcome everyone. It's Seeking Derangements. It's just me and Jen here today. We're doing a little bonus episode to talk about some of our... Hello, Seekers. Hello, hello, Jenny. We're going to talk about some of our summer travel, previous summer travel and summer travel we have planned and a few other things. The video for this is going to be on Patreon in full and if you're hearing just the audio,

it's probably because you're listening for free. So if you want to see the video or hear any of Seeking Derangements bonus content, go to patreon.com slash seeking derangements because Jen and I both look very sexy today. I kind of look like an Orthodox Jewish woman. You do look kind of like You know that you follow that Hasidic influencer that Orthodox influencer Miriam. Yeah. Oh, yes. I love her I'm kind of good. Well, she's kind of she's like crazy

I thought she was not gonna be a Zionist cuz I've kind of last I seeds don't last I saw from her She was like crazy Zionist Zionist, because I've kind of, the seeds don't, last I saw from her, she was like, she's a crazy Zionist. Sorry, my bad. Like the biggest. Orthodox, orthodox crazy Zionist. Oh, right. Cidics hate. Right, right, I'm confusing them.

Cidics are the ones that hate, I know. Yeah. It was a bummer, but she is, she's kind of a queen. I can see, it does kind of look like you have one, if there are wigs on. Right, it kind of looks, it's, look, I can't. Well, pull, no, I know.

Israelio, Israelio.'s Israel. But the glasses and the hair back. Everything you're seeing is 100% natural. Except the face. Do they have trans? What do they do to trans? Uh oh. Drop the mic. Are there trans? They don't. Oh, Ben, if you had watched high maintenance in the 2010s, you would have known that they're not, you know, many times you have to leave the, you got to leave the yeshiva to go explore what you really want to do. Right. Right. I mean, a lot of the hausseats are like so at bathhouses getting blow drops and stuff. They're like extremely gay. Oh, I mean, honey, I've spent, I've clocked in my bathhouses getting blow drops and stuff. They're extremely gay. Honey, I've clocked in my years giving the blow drops.

But is that because they're gay or it's just because they're like they can't have sex? Both. They can have sex. All of them. There's no Jews. Those women aren't putting out. You can tell by just like.

Oh, they've got like eight kids. Yeah, but I feel like it's just like okay It's time for kids seven. That's it. Nothing more. I feel no no no they're good. No Jews conservative like Orthodox and I think Hasidic is a little the Hasid's are a little hard to read. Yeah, there are to read I can't really speak to them because those aren't the people that you see in the bath houses You're seeing the Orthodox. Oh. But the Orthodox, they're fucking and they're drinking.

It's not like a priesthood or anything. No, they're literally drinking fermented onion vodka. Muslim men are like, what do you call the equivalent of an Orthodox for Muslim men? I mean, Orthodox is just like that there's Orthodox Christians and Orthodox. It just means you abide by the original scripture. It means you like... There's Orthodox Muslims? They might call it something else, but I think Orthodox across the board is a term you can use for... It's a pan-religious term. I don't know.

In New York, it's very specific. There's no there's very there's no I mean, there's Shia and Orthodox, the Shia and Sunni, maybe one of those more Orthodox. I don't know. I have no idea. Because because I because obviously they're not drinking, but I'm wondering if they're fucking. I think they I think everyone's drinking and fucking in New York City. No, the Muslims aren't drinking. Some of them are drinking.

Not the Orthodox ones. That's what I'm saying. Who knows? I don't know. I have no clue, honestly. But speaking of Orthodox culture, I am getting my haircut today by a Mexican who is very Orthodox in his Mexicanality. Y'all should have seen.

I watched Ben's first fade video, which was, none of you saw that shit. He makes Ben speak Spanish because he can't believe a white boy has that much riz. No, it was literally like, the neighborhood over from me is like, Mexico here. I was like, I need a good haircut and you can't I, I cannot get a good haircut in Des Moines, Iowa with this hair that I have if I go to a white barber. So I was like, okay, I have to, you know, take a trip to Tijuana and get a good haircut. And I was the area called it is Highland Park. Highland Park neighborhood, which is like, it used to be really cute. Mayamo Highland Park. The Highland Park neighborhood, which is like used to be really cute.

Miyamo Highland Park. Right. But now it's like it is getting gentrified. Like there is a, there's a non-binary coffee shop there where they still mask. They still mask. Is it, is it street brew coffee? No, it's called like... That's that, you know that obese lesbian like with the Down syndrome face? No. CC Unsilenced or something is her name. She has Down syndrome?

No, you know what I'm talking about. She's like, she wears, she dresses like she's running the Navy. Like she's like... The one that reenacts all of the customer interactions like in her home cafe. No, not not not the super soft. That's Morgan. That's like, oh, you're talking about the big like Pixar one.

The big one. Yeah. Yeah. She's so Pixar. She's so Pixar. Yes, I do love her. I also think it might be they. I'm not sure. Yeah, no, she's she doesn't have Down syndrome. But she doesn't even know what I mean. She doesn't even look like she's done. She looks like what do you call that face that like, it's kind of like, you Okay, I didn't mean to offend the Downies. It's, it's like, there's a certain type of face. It's like a lot very Midwestern, very suburban that sometimes a girl gets stuck with. The girl,

the wife from American Horror Story, Colt had the same face. I don't think it's a... I think it's... Sarah Paulson's wife. But it's like, it's not Down syndrome, but it's associated with like autism and ARFID and all of these like very like subtler, like... I think I might just... Neuro-spicies. I think they're just Germanic. I think they're just like, I don't know.

The Seekers comment, if you know what I'm talking about. The wife from American Horror Story called the Cece Unsilenced or whatever her name is. I don't think that's her name. I don't think that's her name. Although lesbians love being like, I'm now finally unsilenced. I don't think that's her name. I don't think that's her name. The godly, the street-footed zombie. Lesbians love being like, I'm now finally unsilenced. I'm unchained. Yes.

CC unchained. CC unchained, unsilenced, Jadiba. But yeah, no, we'll see if I get- But it is, I know because I have a cousin with this face and she has eaten nothing but mac- She ate nothing but mac and cheese her entire childhood, mac and cheese and ketchup, and still kind of just like 18 hours. Jen, you're just seeing a fat person. I don't know what to tell you.

No, it's not. Whatever. I don't care. Because fat people can look like Lena. Who looks amazing, by the way. She looks so good. She looks extremely powerful. She looks...

So she's doing a huge press circuit. She's going on all these little podcasts. Ben, what's your plan to get her on here? No, no, I mean I had a whore bath herself. I don't I mean unfortunately Teenagers will never book a big celeb Like they think the best will do is Chloe Cherry because we've gotten her on I'm sure I'd like Chloe Cherry and Hassan sounds not really like a proper celebrity I mean he is incredibly famous, but I've like I've and Hassan. Hassan's not really like a proper celebrity. I mean, he is incredibly famous.

But I've like I've known Hassan forever. So it doesn't feel like a big hit. Y'all need a press kit. If you can get a press kit with Chloe Cherry, Hassan, whoever else you've had on, we can land you these bigger bookings. Okay, we're back. Fuck Spectrum.

We're back. What were we talking? Yeah, Spectrum. Y'all, there's an internet outage here in New York. You may have gotten a text about it if you pay for your Wi-Fi, which is none of you. So Lena Dunham looks amazing. I think she looks extremely powerful.

And I think that her kind of I don't want to say refusal, because it'd be rude to imply that people are Baking her to go on ozempic, but Her not being exempt. I'll say refusal I think it's kind of a harbinger of a new trend body positive Well, not body positivity per se I just feel like fat As a elite status symbol is going to be coming back because with the widespread use of ozempic Among the wages among the brokeies everyone can do ozempic now haven't heard the term wages in a while

Everyone is going to be so like Sallow and baggy and thin because they're doing ozempic and rich people now I mean the trends are already going back away from... Well there's some studies that are showing that long-term ozempic use is causing... it's minor, it's not like nothing life-threatening, but it's causing some gastrointestinal stuff. Of course. It's messing with people's guts. So, you know. Okay, but to finish my theory here, I do think because poor people and brokeies, etc. are gonna be zemped, rich people. Just call them slaves, Ben. The elite class, they're already getting their BBLs removed.

They're already not getting as much obvious surgical interventions as they used to, they're going back to natural beauty. And I do think that this is eventually going to lead to fat coming back as a- Sorry, just pouring a little coffee from my MoMA design store, Bodum. I do think it will come back as a elite status symbol because they'll be plump, they'll be fed, they'll be glamorous much like the King's and Queen's right now. Exactly.

I think, yeah, I think that we're seeing the Harvet wine scenification of Lena Dunham. Like where the kingpins look like the kingpins. The kingpins don't look like the- Looks like a damn bowling pin. Well, they don't look like the leads in the movies. They look like they're supposed to be right in the studio. They're supposed to be great. Right, right.

I think she looks great. I do think the new show doesn't look that great, but I will I watch it. It could just be Netflix's marketing because they have to put that damn gradient on everything. Yeah, I mean, not even just like the con, the actual content of it doesn't look that interesting to me.

It seems like if you mix like a Lena Dunham masterpiece with like Emily in Paris or something, which I think is what people want more or less. Yeah. So I think it could be good. I'll watch it regardless. She's the David Lynch of women. Why not? Why not?

Why not? I do love her though. I did see that she was, she made some comments about big hoops and she was slammed for cultural appropriation and I was like, we are so back. About loving them? She said she loved them? Or she said it was trashy? Let me look it up.

I just saw a tweet that's like, Lena Dunham slammed for comments over big hoop earrings. And I was like... That's so cool. It's the best year of my life, 2016. We are back. Lena Dunham slammed for cultural appropriateness. Slammed is one of my favorite words that they use in articles. Lena Dunham slammed for cultural appropriation over wild hoops remark and shock interview.

Lena Dunham has been slammed for cultural appropriation for quipping she would take her hoops out and fight anyone slating her castmates. That's so fucking cool. Let me see. If anyone has anything to say about any of my actors, I keep my mouth shut on most things these days, but try a bitch. I'm not playing around here. It's the only time that I'm going to take my hoops out and get ready to fight.

It's like her yearly public comment. One follower wrote it. And she just happened to fuck up that bad? It's it's not that bad. One follower wrote, can we send her back? Can we send her back wherever she went for the last 15 years? Oops. This girl had a show in Brooklyn with zero POC in it. There was um, there was an Asian one, right? Riz Ahmed. Riz Ahmed was in it. The Asian gallerist girl. I'm also like these, I mean, this is like the most shallow criticism of girls, the show I love and adore, but it's like, I mean, Lena Dunham, I should say Hannah

Horvath lives in an exclusively white world. It's like saying why was there not more POC in the Hunger Games? Like why was there not more POC in like... That's fantasy. I mean, it's easier. Why was there not more POC in Silence of the Lambs? It's like, because this is like, why would you want to subject anything but white people to this like horrible saw trap of like a friendship? No, it's literally being like, why isn't there a black character in the great Gatsby who's also a billionaire

it's like well because that wasn't happening like and I mean you see like you see the aftermath of this kind of criticism and shows like shrill who which I love It's like I think get out was kind of racist But I in shows like shrill, which was 80 Brian's, Feminazi Portland TV show. That I still haven't watched, I can tell it's gonna be major. You should watch it.

But in the show, it is kind of, it's all based on the conceit that like, I have the perfectly diversified group of friends. I, you know, but all of these people, all of her like black or Latina friends are like third tier characters who only exist, who only exist to have some kind of, their only reason for the characters to exist is to, is for their relationship to the white woman.

They have no internal lives, no internal desires, no internal thoughts. And it's like that it's actually so much more racist. Have you seen the and just like that stuff this week? I, I, Lisa Dodd-Wexley, who's the black, a Charlotte's black friend that's, that wears like, that wears like Galeano Couture to edit her, her PBS documentary. Whose, whose father has died twice. Whose father has died twice. Her father has died twice. And then he's also made an appearance. Yes, in between dying.

In the first season she said, my dad just died. As like a small bit. And then in season three there's a huge plot device which is like, Charlotte, my dad just died. They should kill him off every episode like Kenny in South Park. plot device, which is like Charlotte, my dad just died. They should kill him off every episode like Kenny in South Park. He should be crushed by an anvil every episode.

They should kill him big every episode. Yes. Yes, I mean, it seems like they've completely given up on writing that show. So it's so bad. Season two was kind of major, but season three is so bad. I know Rosie's in it It's like a oh that was the coolest part of season three Rosie is that almost got me hooked I was okay Rosie is a

Nun tourist lesbian Wicked fan who comes to New York and in Miranda's like lowest point at a lesbian bar when she doesn't get picked up by anybody she fucks her out of hotel room and then finds out she's a lesbian nun tourist and then the lesbian nun Tourist Rosie O'Donnell sings wicked to Miranda in Times Square. She sings for good Because I knew you I mean that almost got me back but I need Shay like or give us the Shay show Yeah, like I this the only character I care about what's his name? Michael Patrick King? Is that his name?

I have no idea The showrunner They had an interview and they like compared these past interviews where for the first two seasons He was like strongly like I don't care like of course, they're gonna hate the non-binary character But like guess what we're playing with expectations like that's not that's my favorite character the whole thing and no we would never take him Out because of controversy season 3 completely written out. Oh Just stand your ground faggot stand your fucking ground

Come on and like literally Shays the the best character. The best character on TV. And the only reason I watch that show, because I do think they they wrote shade like to be hated. I really believe that. And then they tried to write out of it with a character arc where Shay received like focus group feedback about how like two dimensional the character was in the in the in show sitcom that Shay was producing. People care too much about feedback.

Just make your damn show. It's gonna be so much better if you just make your damn show. And honestly, on the note of like POC inclusion, just let black people write and direct their own shows. Why are, why? Just let white people write and direct their own shows. Right, exactly. I'm just like, I don't understand it.

Anyways, let's get to our summers. Okay. We have a lot of stuff planned, but like, okay, the last big summer trip I did. We had a pretty big pre-summer, pre-we had a pretty big pre-summer Jersey key. Right. Can we drop, you know, maybe we can drop some of the places we went. We did the, we went to New Jersey, Ren Fair. We did the Ren Fair.

We went to the New Jersey. A blurred convention. It's basically a blurred convention. I was dismayed at the lack of blurbs, I'll be honest. But there was one, well, we'll get to it, but the most recent trip I did was I went to, I did my classic southern leg where I go travel across Louisiana and then go to one other random place in the south. And I went to Gulf Shores, Alabama. And honestly, y'all, it is sheep.

And it is, I mean, gorgeous. The beaches are very nice. The beaches are very, very nice on Gulf Shores and in Orange Beach. Gorgeous is a loaded term. Well, it's because the beaches are really nice, but the surrounding areas, like the hotels and the restaurants, are, they're at least a little bit,

there's a lot to be desired. There's something for a gay man to desire. Right. Surprise, surprise. I was like I was being such a bitch. I was like, they need to turn this town around. It's bullshit. Because like if OK, make me put me on city council and golf shores. We're banning the color beige. It it's a beach town. It is it's a strip. How can you? How can you ban beige runs a beach town?

All the buildings were beige. And I'm like, this is this is beach make them blue make them pink make them yellow. You want myrtle beach. Are they giving more like Nantucket? No. What's it giving? Never been. It is not Waspie, Ritzy. No. I mean, it's probably about the size of Atlantic City,

like that strip. And it's like a small beach town. It's definitely nicer than Atlantic City. There's no abandoned buildings. The beaches are nicer than Atlantic City, because it's like Gulf water. It's warm. It's definitely nicer than Atlantic City. There's no abandoned buildings. The beaches are nicer than Atlantic City because it's like Gulf water. It's warm, it's blue. The sand is white.

Like it's nice. Because it has this like Florida, Caribbean feel to it. So I'm like, okay, give us some color. Let's be fully Caribbean here. You want to spearhead a new like West Palm Springs? Yeah, yes. Exactly. And I'm just like, why?

Why is this? And it's because it's all just like white people there. It's like people from it's like the closest beach, like Oklahoma. It's the closest beach to like Arkansas. Like, so you just all of these massive trucks. Literally coal rolling people. Like so you just all of these massive trucks Literally coal rolling people and they're just there it's it's for white people which is why all the buildings are ugly and stupid Sorry, they are Like you know what coal rolling is

Where you get the big spoilers on the back of a truck and it emits pure unfiltered black gas. I thought that you were talking about literal coal workers. I thought that you were talking about coal working in a beach town. And I was like, no. No, it was a trend on right wing Vine, I believe, when Obama was elected and everyone was, it was so like, America, I hate liberals. Like that's still what it's like down there.

And they would, um, call roll people like on the streets. And it is, it is insane because it is this giant plume of black cats. Have you gotten cold rolled? No, but I have wanted to call roll before. So they, so they back up to the barista from TikTok. That's like, it looks like, like with the moon phase. So they back up to the barista from TikTok that's like, it looks like with the moon face.

And then they hold the breakdown. They rev. And the pride shirt. They hold the breakdown. They rev the engine. And then they let go. And you're just covered in this loony tunes cloud of soot and unfiltered diesel gas.

And then you look totally, it's all over you. Like a chimney sweep. Period. totally, it's all over you. Like a chimney sweep. Period. Yeah, it's very funny. I recommend people go look up coal rolling. I will absolutely make a comeback because the, because what culture has become so coal rollable recently. But yeah, no, I was just like, it was fun and it was cheap.

Maybe you could gay flight it you could like, uh, you could um Asbury park That area by bringing out like 40 gay people to start a couple businesses and share right needles Right, right. I mean I I wouldn't want to live in gulf shores because it is kind of just like in alab Alabama and there's I mean, but I would recommend a trip there for anyone who wants because it is cheap. We got it was five of us in an Airbnb.

That was my July 4th. We each paid like 250 for five nights and I was partying. Okay. I went viral on TikTok for my SpongeBob video. I tried to go viral again on TikTok for inventing the perpetual tequila soda, which is not in here anymore. It's major. It's like it's like perpetual. It's like the Shakespeare witches perpetual soup. But for gay guys, for millennial gay guys. the Shakespeare witches perpetual soup, but for, for gay guys, for millennial gay guys.

Yes, and I was, I was actually doing it for four days and it was delicious. And it's probably more, because what they had was heat, keeping it anti-microbial. You have alcohol. Right. So you've kind of- And it's in like a stainless steel thing.

You've modernized kind of what they had. Yeah, where I'm the daughter of the witches you couldn't kill. Yes, I'm the gay son of the witches you couldn't kill. Yes. And we drinking. And it was nice because I would recommend a giant tequila soda on vacation because you can still day drink without getting drunk and you just refill it with another seltzer and like throughout the day it gets really watered down. Well, you know, man, it was like one shot of tequila, you know, the, the, the bad girl podcasting, uh, Meg of the famous Meg's mentions, see, uh, micro segment on seeking derangements.

Years ago introduced us to the idea of never ending, uh, uh, Molly water in like a, in like a Stanley cup, which was just kind of a little bit of Molly peak white woman, doing exactly what you're doing with like a little bit of juice, a little bit of seltzer, some ice, just like keep filling up that big Stanley, but there's just always also just a little pinch of Molly being thrown in throughout the weekend. Oh yeah. That's kind of me.

I will say she woke that up. Oh yeah, but I didn't do any drugs in Gulf Shores. Well, I did mushrooms. Okay, and Coke. But that was it. No, no Coke. And alcohol and caffeine. And alcohol and caffeine and- And I'm gonna bet a little it. No, no. And alcohol and caffeine. And alcohol and caffeine.

And I'm going to bet a little magnesium. Lots of magnesium. I did do an Adderall. And an Adderall. OK, so we're up to like six trucks. I'm serious. I would recommend Gold Shores because it's cheap. The food is good. It's a lot of like fried shrimp. And one thing about the beach, though, is it was full of Christians. There were three youth Christian groups all in the same shirts, all staying at the same hotel. And I was like, the amount of dry hand jobs happening there, not to be disturbing about children,

but I'm like crazy okay and I was I mean that's very that's very Jersey Shore. It is very it's Jersey coated but it's you know they actually did do a Gulf Shores spin-off of Jersey Shores but I do remember is that did they send Snooki down there? I know it was with the local yokels of Floribama. All those spin-offs, they usually sent one of those guidos down. They usually flew one down to center the thing around. I think Snooki went to Miami, around the same time Big Ang went to Miami, maybe it was a little earlier.

That makes sense. But no, I think it was actually called Floribama because it is you are on the you're in Floribama, the famous region. But I was watching, I was swimming on the beach and like watching all these like Christian youth groups like they were baptizing the kids in the ocean. And there was just like like 50 of them and like all huddled around. And I had no idea what they're doing. So I swim over to them and I realized they're baptizing them. And every time someone gets baptized, they're like clapping.

And then I was like watching and I saw, I'm not even kidding. I saw the only alt-teen who was like goth get baptized and everyone freaked out. They started clapping so much more for him. We got him. We got him because they were like, we got him. We got him. They were like, oh, I'm imagining like a like 15 year old that looks like 15 year old Skrillex with like snake bites and like a shaved side. They did have snake bites, but it was more like like curtain, you know.

Yes. OK. Yes. And I was just like, the way this kid is absolutely gonna shoot off the church. You should have stopped that. You should have stepped in. Don't touch him. Drive by playing an underscore song

and make that kid run out of there. Oh, believe me, he will bake it out of that church group one way or the other for sure. Maybe the other Right the other oh so many jellyfish bites I still have oh my god That was okay. So I you know, I grew up on the Jersey Shore and I My biggest fear and for years like like truly like, deep fear. Only real fear. I didn't like heights, but my real fear, jellyfish, because I read a book on the Man of War off the coast of Australia, and I was so... I read one of those kids' books that tells you about crazy animals.

I was so afraid of the Man of War, the Portuguese Man of War, that I couldn't... If I saw a single jellyfish, I wouldn't like get near the water So the thing about the ones in the Gulf is they're like they're not like the spongebob jellyfish. They're like they're just strings Yeah, that's like scary. That's those are the scary ones. Yeah, that's what the Portuguese Manowar is like, right? But they're tiny box jellyfish the box jellyfish is just as scary Horrifying. And I was getting stung a bunch. But the thing is they don't really last and they don't really hurt. I do have one that really fucking got me because I was swimming. They wrap around.

They'll wrap. It wrapped around. And then sometimes it's like, what the fuck? And then you try to get out and then it's like, you realize it's like on you. You still got a thread. So it's like still stinging. Right. I wanted to be like, this is my impression of a gay guy who thinks you cure a jellyfish bite the same way you cure a snake bite. Lifeguard, lifeguard, a jellyfish stung my penis! So they need to be on your penis? No, so they have to suck your dick. You have to suck the venom out of a snake bite. Oh, okay, right. I thought a really weird gay guy is like, can you pee on my penis?

I mean, hey, some of them were lookers, but- Oh, you got some lookers? I didn't do that. Yeah, there's sexy people in Gulf Shores, for sure. I've got half my family is based in the Styx of Georgia and like to they you know they they like to float down the Okamuggy River and find themselves at different Taibe Islands occasionally. You hear the song Pond Tune by Big Little City playing because that's the theme song of that kind of place. Oh yeah oh yeah no there was a lot of

horrible Bon Jovi being played. The parallels with the Jersey Shore are crazy. Yeah, but it's Jersey, but Southern. So it's still trashy. It's still very like ostentatious, like looks like Dolly looks, but they're like, yeah, yeah, I didn't like a lot of the people, but it was there were a lot of hot guys because it was it's near a military base And a lot of them are DL there were so many DL military guys back in the closets Trump it's crazy. No, seriously you get some get some tail. I Did I did get some Ben got some tail? Oh, thank God some tail. Okay

Exactly. I should give yourself a round of applause. I don't I don't Yes, I did I did hook up with the Jamaican twink But oh after after Gold Shores we went to Dauphin Island, which is iconic. I felt like a fucking trillionaire because I drove my friends. I drove my friends who grew onto a car ferry and they dropped us off on this like beautiful island. And then we drove the car off the ferry, got on a golf cart into the water, drove around the island, took a swim. And I'm like, one of the best days of all time for a gay guy is being on as many I know you've said this modes of modes of transportation. I felt amazing. Yeah, I felt a woman's nightmare. A gay man's delight. It was great. I did have one of the worst

sandwiches of my life there, though. I did so bad. It was at this bakery on Dauphin Island and I just got turkey, the works and provolone. Sometimes islands really fuck it up because they can't get anything. Right. The meat was fine. I went so like Bethany Frankel on it because I completely took the bread off and just made a lettuce wrap with the salad. But the bread was so dense and dry. I was shocked. It was like it was like pirate like tack. And I was like the way the pirate culture out here is thriving because y'all are still eating tack. Yes, sir. And probably have scurvy. Scurvy.

Yes, exactly. Period. But I would recommend Dauphin Island Golf Shores to anyone. It was amazing. Oh, also one of the biggest bars I've ever been to. Biggest bars. It's literally huge. It's like five stories, two dance floors, pool halls on the beach. Is it like a resort?

No, it's called the Flora Bama bar and it's on the border of Florida Florida and Alabama Florida, Georgia line No Florida Florida Bama, there's that similar to pontoon there's a terrible music group called Florida Georgia line, right Similar to pontoon. There's a terrible music group called florida bit georgia line, right? Okay, this is like an iconic regional bar and everyone loves it and I was trying to do This is also something if you're a gay guy Traveling with women is fun, but they always need to take a damn nap. Yeah, that's what i'm saying That's what we don't like the transportation stuff is a lot It's insane the napping that women have to do. Well, you pee like a racehorse. So if you added up all the pee breaks you take,

it's probably about a nap. You have to pee like every 40 minutes. It's crazy. I have to pee like every hour. Yes. It's insane. Especially when I'm drinking. Ben will make that.

Ben will pause. Ben will say pause and then take six minutes. Pause up. Pause up. Six minutes is ridiculous. I took that, that bitch paused down Little Monsters, the Lady Gaga hate account. I took him down.

He hasn't been posted since our beef, but. Wait, which, what did you do to him? There was a Madonna stan account paused down Little Monsters that was dedicated to taking down Lady Gaga. And we got into the DMs and I started flaming him. So this is definitely like a Brazilian teenager. And he turned his comments up. No, no, no, no, no, this is definitely an old gay guy,

old white gay guy. Who is mad his queen of pop has been dethroned. Who like in 2008 was mad at Lady Gaga, like he's old. Honestly, good for him. I took that bitch down. What'd you do? Comments off been real quiet since. So what did you do?

I just, we just went back and forth. I said, he had AIDS. I like, we just. Oh God. He probably does, Jen. Yes. Oh God. Or his boyfriend died. That is so cruel.

I said, wow, engagement on these posts pretty low. Like your white blood cell count. That is not right. That ain't right. That ain't right. But I was trying to do, I was inventing a lot of challenges on the trip because that's really fun. And I did never ending tequila soda. Did you do the Blair Witch Challenge? No, no, I did not do that by fucking forgot about the Blair Witch Challenge.

God damn it. I made you at Flora Bamma Bar. For anyone out there who is not aware of the trend, Jen, and I invented like five years ago, it's called the Blair Witch Challenge. You take a video running on your phone. It's really good if you're near some woods. Like.

Yes. You switch the filter to black and white and then you put the Blair Witch music over it and you look really scared while you run. It's really good. The Tokyo filter. Which is black and white. But I tried to invent a new one called the Flora Bama challenge because this is like a huge bar.

You can definitely spend like days there. And I wanted to pretend to be Southern there. I was like, hey y'all, my name is Carter Thibodeau. I'm doing the Floribama Challenge. I'm gonna be here at the Floribama bar in Floribama until someone finds out I ain't really Southern. The Floribama challenge is I'm gonna kiss as many straight guys in this bar as I can.

Hey y'all, I'm doing the as many straight guys in this bar as I can Hey y'all doing the hate crime challenge But I Realized that I was probably gonna be there for like two days cuz no one really cares if someone's pretending to be southern Yeah, which is hey y'all it's kind of tibetan. Oh, it's day 47 of the floor of Bama challenge Nobody's noticed yet. Nobody cares. Nobody cares, y'all. Nobody cares.

But I had to abandon that because the women wanted a nap and did not think the challenge was very funny, unfortunately. I thought it'd be fun. Maybe I'll go back. Maybe I will go back to do the Floribama Challenge this summer. Well, sounds like an iconic July 4th. My July 4th. It was very fun.

It was very fun. Although I don't really give a fuck about fireworks. And of course I hate America, kakakakaka, like fully down. Period, period, thank you for saying that. Like it sucks, you're welcome. Fireworks, they don't entice me much, I'll be honest. Yeah, I like them.

I think now that we're getting into drone shows as a society, like, and there's always been laser light shows, I would kind of, when I was a kid, I used to go to the laser light show on the side of Stone Mountain, Georgia. That was major. That was better than fireworks. I'm like, fireworks are cool when they're done right,

when they get really creative with them, but at this point I'm gonna like just give me the Chinese drone show Right. I mean would I love fireworks if I was in China? Yes, of course But I mean but that's thing is they do drone shows which is like smarter because it's not loud. It's You can they can go forever, you know, they don't run out of fireworks Like I kind of like the exactly. Do you have any travel tips? We should do travel tips. Travel tips is.

I have one. Yeah. I OK, so I never check a bag. Mm hmm. Let me grab it. You know what? Let me grab a 15 milligrams in one. Go do a 15 milligrams and I'll tell the listener about my challenge. I'm not my challenge, my tip. So tip so guys I never travel with a carry-on ever I always do a backpack and you can you can fit most of what you need in a backpack roll your clothes don't fold them I've done some I've done some insane bag switching, bag packing, getting around.

I know you have. Yeah, oh yes. Switching flights in like discount, like European like discount airlines. Angel and I in the Paris airport flying two North flights, they try to get you to come off so you have to like pay for another bag. So you have to go through security again when you transfer. They don't do in-gate transfers. And I realize that they don't, if you check in separately,

what you can do is, they're not gonna, nobody really freaks out at TSA or really at the gate. They don't really check on these budget airlines because they're kind of like, if you got here, we're not really the ones to check you. It's at the gate. It's at the desk. So what you do if you're flying with multiple people, let's say you got five, six bags, who cares, and you didn't pay for any of them. One person goes up at a time with just their purse, checks in, there's

no flagging of like, oh you have a huge bag with you, you're gonna have to pay a huge bag with you You're gonna have to pay $80 for that You're gonna pay $100 for that that person just gets their boarding pass goes back and sits The next person comes up from like around the corner where you're sitting at a coffee shop or whatever Next person at a Starbucks next person goes they come back next person goes and every time you leave your bags with your travel party So now suddenly you saved like $500 on luggage because you each went up. And no one at the rest of the airport is gonna check because they're just like,

you're in the gate with your bag. You probably figured it out. Right, that's genius. Right? I, okay, I realized if you want to check a bag. I did that with Angel when she was wearing a loin cloth and a, and she was wearing like nothing but a loin cloth and a tr- and she was wearing like nothing but a loin cloth and like a sheer cape and she almost-

So funny. While we were in the middle of doing this, she almost got arrested by the Parisian airport security because you can't be naked like in France, you can't be, you can't have your tits out and she had, she had cock and balls out. Sorry, she's a trillionaire. She's allowed to do whatever she wants in my book. They were standing around her waiting with handcuffs while she was like, I have things in my bag

and she opened her bag. Oh my God. And it sprung open and it spilled Timu clothing all over the floor of Charles de Gaulle Airport. I'm a trillionaire. I'm a trillionaire. One thing I realized is like, okay, the Charles de Gaulle airport. How much will you have? One thing I realized is like, OK, I never check it back. This time I did bring a little got that like carry on luggage like thing, and it was big.

I probably should have checked it, but I didn't check it because I always I know that if you're in the last boarding group of any flight, like group nine, all of the overhead compartments will be full and then they check your bag for free. Yeah. So go through TSA with... Because even if it's a bag you should have technically checked, just be like, oh, play dumb, and then they'll just check it for you at the gate

and you'll still have to pay. Well, that's a thing. They don't charge you more. But the thing is... But if you board last, they just check it for you at the gate and you'll still have to pay well that's it they don't charge you more but the thing is but if you board last They will check it for you for free because they have to check everyone's carry-ons because there's no more room in the compartments if it's if you know you're doing this because you have a bag that's too big to fit in the overhead These days especially international they flag that because you have to fit it into a little compartment in front of the desk It does depend on the airline. I was flying American.

But just saying Other travel tips I have I mean, oh always okay always buy if you have the money buy the Airbnb for the group because Well, you get points, but you also Maybe this is just my stupid brain, but I- You're like, get a refund later and don't tell everybody. Also that, but in my brain I'm like, oh, I'll spend $1,300 a month early and then I kind of forget about it. And then you're on vacation and everyone's Venmoing you $200 and then it's like, oh my

god I have $800 now. That's very, that's women math. And then it just sits in your Venmo. It's women math. It's very women math. But then it's just in your Venmo and you're like, oh I'll just, I have all this Venmo money. I made iced coffee at home so I have $6 to spend on whatever I want today.

Yes. That's, it makes you feel rich. It's not about actually being rich but it makes you feel rich. It's not about actually being rich, but it makes you feel rich. Like, oh, everyone's paying me. And then everyone respects you. Because you're like, you're like big daddy who got the Airbnb. I got a little bit of a travel blog hack. Everybody knows about getting points getting flight getting, you know, get your airline points, get your credit card points when you're booking. I usually am booking travel for like six to eight people at a time. It's usually tour routing stuff.

I'm usually traveling some sort of work or shows even if we add little stops. So I have tried a lot of different booking websites and I know that you usually, I know that if you book through the hotel or the airline, you have more flexibility and everything and people always have the third party scare stuff. I can already tell this is getting really really orthodox. Yes it's very okay. I've tried a lot of these sites all right and I've tried but if you are sure you don't need to change your reservations if you know you're good you're not buying all the extra little like change fee stuff do it do everything through booking.com. I know booking.com seems like it's old It's not like it's not fresh booking.com if you you remember Starbucks first

First go to MSN.com Log in with your AOL Do you remember Starbucks like you know like the Starbucks reward system where basically it's like the more you spend in a month you get them and then it resets after 30 days so it's like Yeah, I mean Starbucks Starbucks is basically functioning as like a bank. Yeah, it's like the more you spend in a month you get them and then it resets after 30 days so it's like Yeah, I mean Starbucks is basically functioning as like a bank Yeah, it's like you can't yes, you can't just like buy a drink and then like six months later buy a drink It's like you have to like keep up high Frequency booking.com is the same thing and when you get to a point like when you've spent like When you've done like four or six reservations within like a month or a 90 day period or something, they start to bump you up and then you get free, you get

crazy free upgrades, free breakfasts, free cheat changes. Like it kind of starts to like, when you get to that like platinum tier, when you're booking like eight reservations a month, it gets pretty crazy, pretty quick. Right, right. That's that's not about, I mean, you need a big friend group to do that with. Yeah, you got to be you got to be like the booker of it all. If you're doing like, but everyone everyone everyone respects you when you book. It's a good move when you're just like, I'm on it. Here's your confirmation. Because you're kind of the kind of the power top of the group for

the whole vacation. Although I although I did have to sleep on the couch because I was with two couples and not power top. But then it did allow me to sub bottom. It did allow me to sneak out at night if I wanted, but there is for Benny to get his licks. There is. You find the upsides where you can. getting his licks in. You find the upsides where you can. But I did download, I did download Grindr, not really for the licks, as you would say. I was just trying to find like. A rich person to like hang out with, and I was like, well, hello, everyone, I'm not here

for sex, I'm here with two straight couples and we are trying to find the party You're like, but I will but I will put out if I need to I didn't find a rich guy to take out Take out five people similar to your fourth of July with a Jamaican twink I spent fourth of July cleaning poop off a carpet Because of a twink no not, not because of Banjo. I hate your dog. I'm going to be fully honest. I hate Banjo.

I know you do. I mean, I like him, but he's an extremely troubled dog. He's a very troubled dog. Maybe why I don't like him is because you know when you hate someone? Right. He has very scary pale blue eyes. He has scary blue eyes. His anxiousness maybe brings out a Jewish quality in yourself. You don't like I'm not anxious

I'm not an anxious person. You have anxiety About what? You have a you're always trying to convince me I'm Jewish you haven't and that's what I mean I think you know and you hate it and you hate it so much that maybe you should think about it You have an undercurrent of Jewish anxiety. Maybe neurotic. Yeah, you have a. Maybe I'm neurotic.

Yes, well, you've said a couple months ago, there's no way you're neurotic. We had this exact conversation. You said, I'm not neurotic. I'm not neurotic. I mean, no way neurotic. I'm not neurotic. Definitely neurotic.

Oh, no, god. I have never experienced anxiety in my life. But yeah, I spent 4th of July, I was supposed to go key on a rooftop in the East Village and ended up cleaning. The fireworks started and he went crazy. Oh, he splattered everywhere. He splattered. Oh, nasty.

I was getting diarrhea out of a rug. Well, you should give him away. I I know I want to bring him to the pound Okay I mean fireworks are I mean I was with my friend Kyla who's like Really? baby drop box at a fire station Be full of poop I Be full of poop. Like 80 pound dog.

I was with my friend Kyla who's like a huge nature girl and she was watching the fireworks and she was like, so many birds are killing themselves right now. It's so funny when you're with an ecology friend. Oh my God. It is so, okay, it is so impossible to hang out with someone who's like a naturalist. I mean, I love Kyla dearly, but it's like every single thing, especially when got- It is so, okay, it's, it is so impossible to hang out with someone who's like a naturalist. I mean, I love Kylie Deerly. But it's like every single thing,

especially when you're on your vacation, it's like, it's always like, oh my, people are littering. People are littering over there. Or like, oh, do you know what that flower is? I've got a whole friend group that's like ecology heads, and it's just like, you can't park on the grass, you're gonna tear up the, you're gonna tear up that shit. Like you're gonna, it's just like, shut up.

I mean, look, I agree with all of this. I do, but I'm also like- He's trying to get his licks in? The world can burn. I'm trying to have my never ending tequila soda and I don't wanna talk about how birds are killing themselves, which is sad. I mean, fireworks should probably be banned.

I'm being completely honest, but. Stone Mountain did it first, y'all. Stone Mountain did it first. Yeah. Yeah, oh, I convinced Jock the Ocean was being drained, by the way. He fully believes me. And like, Renidly didn't give a shit.

It was like, okay, whatever. Yeah, but I like he's got a longer list of things to care about. Right? He does. He does. What's his what's his irrational fear volcanoes? He has many gum. He hates gum. I remember he's very well. He's very afraid of the super volcano and Yellow Stone. Yes. very afraid of that. Yes.

Because he lives so close to Yellowstone. Well, we used to live in Denver. And it was like the super volcano, like pre-Trump was everyone was scared of the super volcano. I mean, in like 2015 in the West, people were terrified of the super volcano. I live in the East. You do. in the west terrified of this you know you do um because it was like oh if this explodes everything will be covered in 12 feet of volcanic ash instantly pompey kind of a uh uh coal uh what do you call it coal coal rolling a global a global coal roll that's kind of what we need

A global cold roll. That's kind of what we need. Honestly at this point, just do it. I don't fucking care. It already feels like Yellowstone should have erupted. Speaking of the end of the world, Netflix canceled Queer Eye. Shock. Okay, well, the... We're doing a 10 season.

Their Eye season 10 will be the last season of Queer Eye. The show has been canceled. What are we going to do? It's gonna more... more than any presidential election or covid that's gonna mark a beginning and end to our sections of our life. I am legitimately sad about it. I'm not even kidding. Yeah, you've seen every episode, right? I've seen every single episode. I mean, I'm fascinated with the show I think it's so fucking funny. I think it should just go on. I think it should just become like the Simpsons of Culture. Yes. You should look back at 30 years of Queer Eye and it speaks to what's happening at the time. I

Heard Bobby Burke the the former member of Queer Eye did leave I heard Bobby Burke, the former member of Queer Eye, did leave. The guy who restores all the homes and like makes everything jewel toned and plush and honestly, pretty fugly, I'm going to be honest. But it's impressive. But, you know, he's he's definitely the one doing the most work. Even if I don't. He was the only one who was working. Anthony was just showing people avocados and JVN was just, you know, celebrating black women's hair.

But. Right. Well, they did. I did notice in the earlier seasons he would do black people's hair, but then he like started to bring in like actual black people to do the hair because he realized that he can't just like be on TV doing black women's hair. Right. But it is over. I heard Bobby Burke on a podcast talking about his his retirement from Queer Eye. And he was like, you know, actually, we weren't paid much.

He was like, we were not paid very much. It's like Broadway actors. Yeah. And it is kind of interesting because it was all about their side deals. Right. Right. It was all about he was like, and everyone would everyone would make fun of us. Creighton Barrel, Creighton Barrel. He's like, everyone make fun of us because we're doing all these constant. Actually, it was I think it was West Elm.

He's not he couldn't get food. Right. But he was like, everyone hated us because we're just constantly shilling these like this crap. And he's like, we had to do that to make money. He was like that. That is what Netflix offers you you they offer you a platform and they offer you avenues to You know make money off your own businesses and raising your profile exposure, etc, etc. It's like We're not I mean they all they all became Mega millionaires. Yeah, but not necessarily for sure Netflix fees

it's just it's just funny to me to see how far like the fees. It's just it's just funny to me to see how far like the the exposure economy has risen up the economic ladder because it's like a TV show I mean you used to pay mm-hmm and now it's just like okay well now you can launch a dog food brand they're raising a much a queer dog food brand yes yes but it is ending and I feel bad for the new interior designer. The bitches be like, I broke the glass ceiling. Yeah, because you the brick. Yeah, because you are brick.

Forgot about that one. It's a good one. But I don't know. I'm just I am sad about it because the level of kind of just, I don't think we'll see that mainstream LGBT gay ineptitude in a it's going to be another decade until until Pete wins in 2028. I think he might. I think we're going to see a lot of that. And Pete has gotten better at talking.

I saw him on Andrew Schultz's podcast. They upgraded his software. Literally, they literally upgraded the software and he's just like, he is really good at like... He got that deep CKI. Yeah, well, he'll go on like conservative outlets, which is like the DNC is like, we need people to go on conservative outlets. We need people to talk to blah, blah, blah. And he's, I don't agree with the single thing he says, but he's good at doing it, which it's probably just because,

probably just because the bar is set so- He's watched a lot of Doom scroll. Oh my God. It's probably just because the bar is set so low for the DNC ops that he seems better in comparison. But I feel like 2028 don't really launch Pete they'll do a hard launch on Pete Let's hope the country we're seeing we're seeing the soft launch. I think the next three years are gonna be soft for sure

For sure. Let's hope the country continues to get more and more homophobic That's the only thing we can hope for to save us from us from Pete is everyone being like, I won't vote for a fudge back. Period. Hey, I wouldn't either. Not for Pete. Not certainly not for Mr. Buttigieg. Who's the gay guy that you would elect? Barry Brandon. Barry Brandon. Griff the walking gay. Griff.

That new one that you're on. Oh, Benjamin, the the real estate agent at Boston. I think so. I'm the crazy one. The Twink. Yeah, he's like, or the orange. Yes. No, I wouldn't call him a twink. It's he's pretty plump. He I'll put in one of his videos, but I love watching his videos because he's always has like

the craziest techno music playing so loud in them. And he's like, hey everyone, I'm in Boston square and I'm going to show you an iconic. Well, it's not even techno, it's like EDM. It's like, it's like ultra EDM. Yeah. And then he'll walk to the apartment from whatever common, it's PMP music. And then he'll walk to the apartment from whatever common it's music and then he'll walk to the apartment from whatever like Cobman's

area he's in. And he always speeds up the walking. But I love imagining that that's just like natural speed. It's like moving so fast down the street, much like Barry, much like Barry, who stopped sharing his location with me and unfollowed me cross platform. So unfollowed cross platform. Unfollowed on Twitter, unfollowed on Instagram and stopped sharing his location with me even though I had it for like two years.

Oh my God. One of my favorite party tricks is being like, where do you guys think the walking gay is right now? And then just pulling him up and saying he's in Barcelona. He's Miami. He loves House Kitchen. He loves Barcelona. When he told Angel you would love Berlin. You would love Berlin. He's talking about all the places he's been and she was like I oh I've never been there and he's like oh you would love Berlin. Oh my god and then he forgot his panties in the car and Angel saw

his Angel saw his shlong and she said he was hung. That picture of us had been going around. I've seen that. The one where I hit you in the car in Brent's car. Our 2021 Pride pic where we recreated the Charlie XCX Crash album cover. Yes, one second. I'll be right back.

All right, all right. I'll be right back. All right. All right. I got look at what I got. The foam break. Nice. Nice. A lot of people listen, got a lot of a lot of people clocked the brick in that. I saw I've seen that posted like 10 places. That's a beautiful picture. It's really it's one of the best ones we ever took. Beautiful, beautiful photo. OK, speaking of tranny, I wanted to talk about the Arca

Sevdalisa beef. Mm hmm. I'm not OK. I'm honestly not really tapped in. You're going to have to start it from the beginning. Let me find the screenshot here. So if anyone out there is not familiar with Sevdalisa, which I kind of wasn't for a long time, I do really like her song with Tokisha, it's good,

but I am not a fan of her music like at all. I do think it's really bad. So Seb DeLisa is an Iranian cis-gendered artist. Okay, I also thought she was fully transgender. I fully hope that she was transgender. But she does have like children and stuff and she's not transgender. But she has always been making like Latin style music. Like she's made like reggaeton songs,

she's done, I don't know if she's done anything else, she does a lot of like reggaeton and she sings in Spanish and her album is called Heroina. And she is kind of, as Mayunco counterparts would say, reheating Arca's nachos in my mind. Mm-hmm. Because have you seen the cover of Savdilisa's, or I think it was in this, this like mech suit she's in. Yes, that was her big, it's her and Rosalia are chomping at the bit for that mech suit. Rosalia, like it's the girl from Mario Party. Rosalia.

Her, Rosalia and Arka are going through a Evangelion style plot where they are just fighting to get in the mech suit. Has Rosalia done a mech suit? I think so. I feel I don't know if she would really like come for Arka's tea like that because I think Rosalia knows her place is like a Spaniard and like doesn't doesn't she does not want to She's got to pilot the Ava.

That kind of makes her Shinji. But Arka DM'd Sevdalisa and then Arka posted all the screenshots of this and she was like basically like why are you working with my producers who I've known since I was 14? And Sev Delisa was like well they came to me and Arka was like what is with this robot suit bitch like it is the Kick One album cover like what are you doing? It's clear. I mean it's just like she was the first tranny in a mech suit like and she can be the only one like I don't know what to tell you. That's why she's not a tranny in a mech suit the first tranny in a mech suit. Yeah. And she can be the only one. Like, I don't know what to tell you. That's why she's not a tranny in a mech suit.

She's a sis in a mech suit. Looking like that. Yeah. Okay. Have you seen Sevdaliza? Arca looks better. Arca looks fishier at times. I'd say 1000% at all times.

And I'm an ARCA fan. I do love ARCA's work. I do think she needs to like stop with the beep boop and kind of just make like Neo-Preo music. But whatever. I think she needs to do ARCA marine like over and over and over and over until she finds something new. But I kind of feel like she doesn't want to do that because it's the most like

obvious choice, which I respect. So then Sveta Lisa is of course, I don't know if you heard her new song, but it is literally just like reggaeton percussion with these like freaky synths and like kind of whisper rapping. And I'm like, girl, this is like... You're mine. I don't understand why there are people defending Sceptile EZ being like, she's always been experimental and always been futuristic and obsessed with Latin music. And I'm like, right, but that is...

There are certain like, Arca- specific aesthetic choices that are clearly being mimicked here. And then when you find out she's working with like some of the same producers, it's like, girl, I'd be mad at your gay producers she'd been working with this bitch and just selling her your recipe book.

So did their DMs, so ARCA posted their DMs? ARCA posted them and then like deleted them Which look I? Can a girl be messy Can a girl be messy? If someone is really coming for your artistry this way Yes, go crazy go crazy be insane yeah and like said at least it's a talented artist. She's gonna know she'll fold under the pressure Her music really sucks and like the all the promo she's been doing for it is like really

stupid and not original No, all the process she's walking this one of those AI robot dogs around Manhattan stupid I'm like, what? Some subway takes bullshit. Yeah, and it's just like, it's just like this really ham-fisted combination of things you think will go viral, like AI, the outfit, being in New York. Without having any intention behind it.

There's no intention. There's no center to any of these aesthetic choices It's just kind of just scattershot. Like how can I get people to pay attention? Yeah And it's bad. I don't like her and I don't like her music and I was shocked to find out she was not transgender. I'll be honest. Mm-hmm I was shocked. I wish all the best to Arka What do you love Arka? What do you think about the Ethel Cain beef? not not be

I I'm not an Ethel Cain fan She seems cool. I just haven't really cared to listen to her music because it's just like to like Like indie and that's freaky people. That's exactly what you love. Her kind of music is like American teenager is exactly the kind of indie white people music that you like. Yeah, but it's like sad.

But it's, ah, you, I feel like you would love it. You should listen to her first album. I feel like you would have a change of heart because it is so in the world of that shit you like. It's just my vibe right now I'm not listening it's summertime okay I'm not listening to American Dream Nature that's a summer song summer album yeah really I'll listen to it um I heard people were accusing her of incest they're accusing her of racism incest and uh incest and bestiality. Why? They've had people found like I don't know what this it was kind of like a form spring type thing and like when she was like 16 or 17 that where it's like you people can ask you things and you reply and people

know that it's you replying but they don't know who asked it and she right people would, people, I think she might've said, I think there's someone said, she said the N word somewhere, but nobody, that's not a screenshot. The screenshot is like people are asking. They need the screenshot.

But then there's a screenshot where people are like, what do you think about black people? And her like form spring response was like, I feel like that Lana album or something. She said something that was kind of like cheeky, but like it was like that Lana album or something she said something that was kind of like cheeky but like it was like early Lana era like kinda kind of subtle way to get kind of white people southern racist without saying it but she was also like she's a tranny like 16 year old y'all of course she's gonna be like fake racist online I mean I think the day I just like don't care

what there's someone was saying there's video, there's some video she was shooting a while ago where it was like, people were saying a dog was licking her nipple and but like it was just she was just kind of being weird. I'm like, she was just being weird. Just let her be weird. It's very reactionary to me. And like, y'all gotta grow up and then the end then the it hurt her legalized incest shirt People are clearly playing. She's clearly playing

With her the whole thing. She had like an album called inbred. She's like her whole thing is like I'm southern. I'm incest y'all They are people actually aren't the impression she's like having sex with her dad So people are now coming people are her haters are coming for the, the caninators and they're saying, uh, the caniacs. Yeah, they're coming for the raising caniacs. I feel like this is just a very simple, like, let an artist be an artist to me. Um, not, not talking about what she was saying when she was 16. But I mean, like her genuine artistic

choices and they're not able to pull up any dirt. Period. Period. Yeah, I don't really have I don't really have much on it. I just I feel like I feel like it's also very easy to be like, okay, Gen Z is so conservative and so anti sex and so like right wing about holding people accountable. Not not capable to pick up on nuance in like a like alt campaign. Where you know everything is everything is flattened about like certain immoral when someone's wearing a shirt that says legalize incest they are like one of the last people to

kind of to be like secretly fucking around in incest you know like it's right like very weird to try to cancel someone for something that they are like cheekily wearing a shirt of no it's but also my point here is that like I do not think that Gen Z is like that I do think this is like a local minority of like autistic freaks online yeah who are just like mobbing someone. Who are transphobic, let's say. Period. Yes. Let's flatten it real quick.

Yeah, exactly. Beat them at their own logic, which is just a circular firing squad of ism, accusations of isms. But I, yeah, whenever it comes to this kind of stuff, I'm just like, I don't pay attention to it because I don't want to have animosity towards like a younger generation. Yeah, well, I love Gen Z and I sometimes claim Gen Z because I'm on the cusp here. But I'm a little bit younger than you, but no, you're not on the cusp here. I was born in December.

I was born in December. I was born in 94. You were born in 94. Oh, God. But in December, I'm calling you old because you were born in 94. You were born in... Oh god. But in December. I'm calling you old because you were born in 95 and then I find out you were born in 94? You're 29. I was born in 96. That's the... You're 29. Are you 29? Okay, I'm 30. I'm 30. Okay, wake that up. You old as hell and you a millennial. No, actually like I think characteristically I'm more Gen Z. Okay. To be honest. No, actually, like, I think characteristically, I'm more Gen Z. Okay. To be honest, because...

The years don't lie. Exactly. But also, like, growing up in the Midwest, the cultural lag is so severe that it's like I was listening to Nirvana and wearing flannel in high school. So you were that kind of an elder millennial. As kind of an elder millennial, yes, that's the tea. But we, you know, we sunk up for the Pitchfork days. So that kind of squirts us both as younger millennials. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

I was a Pitchfork head. I was a Pitchista when I was. Despite our massive gap in age. Massive age gap. We sort of sunk up around the right time. I did see that Gen Z. I saw one of these completely stupid studies that are posted once a month. It's like, Gen Z's not drinking.

Gen Z's not having sex. I did see one of them that said that Gen Z is actually now starting to drink, and now they actually are starting to have sex. And I'm like, OK, well, of course, if any of the three. Right, and they also went through COVID. There's probably a refractory period where they have to to resocialize themselves

Yeah, they're iPad kids. He spent three years in line. Yeah, and now they're finally like I think they're getting over their our fed and they're fucking and they're fucking so good for them Gen Z listeners, I know we have a lot of sure. I think we're predominantly a Gen Z podcast So if any of you out there, if any of our fellow Gen Zers want to sound out in the comments, let us know if you've got laid recently. We'd love to conduct a little seeking derangement study of our Gen Z sexual habits. Talk about your recent sexual experience. Yes, please.

And what liquor do you like? What liquor do you like? What do you think the Gen Z liquor is? I feel like they're so buzz ball. What liquor do you like? What do you think the Gen Z liquor is? I feel like they're so tequila. Buzz ball. I feel like they only, I don't think that Gen Z really fucks with like gin or rum or even that much like whiskey. Maybe, maybe. Tequila. I think it's like, it's tequila. If like millennials were very craft beer and like vodka spirit,

I never was. Fancy whiskeys. I think Gen Z is way more on the ball. The boss ball. Yeah, I mean, I've always been, I only do tequila or a really, really light beer. I'll drink a martini. Yeah, I'll do gin sometimes. I'll have a vodka martini for me. Mezcal soda

lime juice is my go to trick. You know what I came up between you know 17 and like 22 and it's disgusting you remember that I forget the brand but you remember that that little the little flask bottle of Long Island iced tea from the liquor store? No. It's not brunettes. It's probably an East Coast thing. I never saw that. You could just buy it in the cold section of all the liquor stores and it was just like

the little like the like pint or like maybe it was a pint. I don't know. It was like half pint. It just got so much sugar. So much. Just like really pint. It just got so much sugar, so much, I was just like really disgusting, but I love those. I do love the look of the giant buzz ball. One of my favorite creators, Shoddy Bay,

has been really pushing the giant buzz ball. She has her own bedazzled like buzz ball flask, which is really cute. But I did. I was drinking a lot of buzz balls when I was in Puerto Rico. And I was like, this shit is. It gets you the sugar high combined with the like malt liquor in it is insane. You see that a teacher teacher in the Midwest

accidentally gave her students hard Mountain Dew, like a middle school teacher, like served, served an entire like fifth grade class. Like Mountain Dew, Seltzer Mountain Dew has like a cell. Mountain Dew has like a hard school teacher like served no served an entire like fifth grade class like Mountain Dew has like a seltzer. Mountain Dew has like a hard Mountain Dew. Gross. And she brought like a 30 pack into the glass room. Oh my god. Jesus Christ. No I would never try that. I feel like that's that's gonna be happening more and more. Oh it's our every brand has a hard version because they just wanna, there's no reason not to. I wanna try the Spindrift one, I'll be honest. Yeah, sounds good.

I wanna try the Spindrift one, but I'll just make my own mezcal soda. Well, what's your upcoming travel? Like what's kind of on the docket? Yeah, let's end on our future because I do have to go get my haircut and make another be forced to make another heinous Spanish video do you get like a discount because you make those videos No, I always thought you would I always thought it would be like, okay. Here's a little discount

He sprung it on me last time. He gave me a fade and cut a little bit off the top. And he's like, hey, do you mind if I make a TikTok video? I'm already very anxious. One thing I am anxious about. The barber. Is going to get, yes. Because I'm like-

I know, because you had that, you touched the hand of your other barber. Well, no, it's because they always think I'm straight. They are always like, how like you have a girlfriend. And I'm like, I have a tattoo on my fucking ear. Yeah. And I think they I think maybe this is a straight guy's way of asking if you're gay. Do you have a girlfriend? Right, because they want me to be like, oh, no, of course.

No, I have a boyfriend. Yeah, but I can never say that. No, that no, of course. No, I have a boyfriend. Yeah, but I can never say that. No, that's insane. One, I don't have a boyfriend. It's crazy to say, if you said, no, I don't have a girlfriend, I fuck guys on vacation. Right. And so I'm just like, no, I don't have a girlfriend.

And they're like, he was just like, oh, this video will get you some bitches. You're like, great. like oh this video will get you some bitches You're like great and I'm like great need that Did the full like like pan of my hair, you know, like just fully like hand it and then he was like He was like He's like he was like tell everyone to come to my barbershop and I was like, okay and I was like, tell everyone to come to my barbershop. And I was like, okay. And I was like, everyone. He's like, no, en español, mijo, por favor.

And I was like, oh my God. Me encanta mi cuartel de pelo. Like, so embarrassing. I know you're making this to post on Facebook because you want everyone to be like, this white boy crazy. Don't be hentai, don't know, I'm not gonna say the, I'm not gonna say the barber name because I don't know anyone to look it up.

But why you don't want him to, you don't want to get him business? No. Be serious. Well, he'll post it. I'm not gonna share it. I think you should. I think he also posts it.

Well, then he also goes to my profile. We'll see that I'm gay going to share it. I think you should. I think he's supposed to be seeking. But then he also goes to my profile, will see that I'm gay and like insane. And also never. What would you want? No, I don't want my barber to know anything about my life. Really? I'm going to be telling him I have a girlfriend in like a year. I'm going to be going to this barber forever. So I've already told him I'm straight.

I go out to shows with my hairdresser. That's female behavior. But we go, darling, when Afrojack comes to elsewhere, you know me and Starlena are hitting it up. That is my next summer travel is getting my haircut. And then later this next week, I'm going to a national goat competition in Grand Island, Nebraska. And then the week after that, I am praying,

I can pull this off, going to Harlingen, Texas, which is basically on the border of Mexico to cover a micro-bully convention. Something people have been called for forever that is called a border wars and it's filled with a z um so i did talk to some seekers in harlingen but if anyone else is in the rio grand valley uh greater metropolitan area yeah let me know um because i haven't booked my tickets yet and i'm i and I'm like, if there's tea on the border, I'm going to spill it.

I'm going to sniff it out. I'm going to sniff it out. So let me know what's going to happen. I'm going to sniff it, I'm going to spill it, and I'm going to drink it. Let me know what the vibe is in Arlengen. And then I'm subletting your apartment. I'll be back in New York City for six weeks and I Am tomorrow. I'm flying out to LA for a couple weeks from there heading to Chengdu

Hitting up a couple different so jealous. It's gonna go to Shenzhen gonna go to Chongqing gonna hit up some of the so and listen any seekers in LA any seekers in Chengdu region, hit me up, then we'll be going to a wedding in Birmingham, Alabama, and then I will be doing Marseille, Oslo, and Prague for shows that we have planned. So any seekers in those areas, make yourself known. And then we need to reunite and go to Newport. Yes, well'll actually probably in

the middle of that probably right around Birmingham, Alabama. Have you talked to our new port connect? She's gonna be she doesn't know her exact dates but she's gonna be probably around. I need to be on a boat with a bunch of senior females. You need to be grouped by Maggie again. Yes, yes. My girlfriend who I did kiss like seven times. I have, did I show you? I found out that I have an amazing photo of her with her hand cupping your balls. Well, when we're sitting.

Oh my God. Remember when Brad was buying us those mudslides at that crazy dockside bar? And Maggie was really going in. I saw like when she turned to you, I was taking like group photos and then I saw when she like turned to you with that look in her eye and I just started like snapping pictures just to try to get one and I have one where she's got

four fingers going into your shorts please send it to me I'll insert it I mean I have so many photos of me kissing her but I mean who wouldn't kiss the first female to charter a yacht in the United States? We told her, did we spill her tea or were we waiting to get her on? But it was also blown up in the Bermuda Triangle. Did we tell that story? We did now. Yeah, we did. And we might be telling more of Maggie's story if we can get her on the air because I would really love to get Maggie. Well,. Well, if you're not I were that's definitely gonna happen and if you're in LA next week seekers Disco Kina we're doing the show that Sam Rolfe's and I run is doing a three night residency at new Standard Vision

LA tickets on sale now, it's an open bar Come on through. We just got the ArCA co-sign. Open bar? Open bar. That's crazy. Yeah. Who's funding the open bar? Me. Whoa.

No, we've got- You don't see open bars anymore. Oh no, it's an open bar and we've got some sponsors. We've got the new museum. What's the ticket price? We've got Red Bull. It's like 30 to 50. For an open bar all night?

Mm-hmm. Whoa, what the hell? I need to go. Yeah. I need to make an LA trip. I did get a friend of mine who told me I can crash on a couch whenever and then there are gay guys I know who I crash on the couch. But I don't like it.

It's like when you go crash on a gay guy's couch, you have to end up sleeping in the damn bed. Exactly. Which I'd rather stay at a female's house. Anyways, got to go get my haircut. Oh, one program, you know, Interior Motives will be back. Don't worry, everyone, I have received your messages. I'm waiting on a redesign and it's looking iconic so far.

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