Seeking Derangements - SD 419 - Women's Laughter
Episode Date: July 13, 2025It's Seeking Sunday! Ben here, today Jacques, Hesse and I open the show up to all of you! That's right, we're only talking about what you all have suggested, namely JoJo Siwa's new song, Caitlyn's as...sistant/girlfriends ATV death, Grok becoming a Nazi, and r/anti-sex, a reddit dedicated to Sex Haters.
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We literally just said that.
I know. I'm joking. It's a joke. It's a joke. It was a joke.
Hilarious joke. Today we have a few things planned. We're going to do a little special
episode. This week we got a lot of requests from seekers all over the nation, more than usual, to talk
about a few specific topics. So I was like, well, why don't we just do an entire episode
where the listeners tell us what to talk about. And that's what we're going to do today. We
have a lot of, we've got a handful of comments asking us to review Jojo Siwa's new song. They people also want us to talk about
Caitlyn Jenner's girlfriend
slash assistant dying.
And then shout out to the Shiba Mama out there.
I'm blanking on her name, but I know
I know, you know, Diva.
I believe you're a woman.
You tweet like a woman.
She told us that we should
show Jock a handful of
our slash anti-sex posts and they are really
good so we're going to do that at the end of the episode.
Also I wanted to say that we've gotten a lot of requests to address the architecture of
Reconstruction Error America and I'm sorry but we cannot discuss that on the podcast.
We're writing a book about that right now.
Well, Hesse is writing a book about that and it just would be unfair to the Penguin House
publishers if she wasn't able to tell that story in the text.
Yeah, Penguin House would be very mad with us.
I was trying to think of a name for this episode format where we let the
listeners take the wheel and I didn't come up with one I really liked.
So I think maybe all three of us can come up with one on the spot and the
listeners just to go with the concept y'all can pick.
So sound off in the comments on which one you like.
I, okay.
I wanted to do a play on the word submit because we're submitting to our listeners and our listeners are kind of doming us and we're the subs.
The best thing I could come up with.
Yeah.
I, well, mine was listener dominations, which listener dominations.
Yeah.
Pretty good.
It was user dominations, but then I realized it's not, they're not users.
Well, they're using users for we're a drug. Yeah, we're using them
fund our lifestyles
Mine is seeking submits. It's pretty boring jock. I kind of feel like you can work some magic on this
Okay. Well my first two ideas for the name of this came kind of wrong incorrect first
I thought girls,
which really doesn't have anything to do with submit.
Yeah, and then I thought friends,
but that doesn't really.
Just two TV shows that you were thinking of instead.
Yeah, honestly I've just been thinking about girls
and friends a lot, but we don't have to go there.
What really.
Who are each of us from girls, Jock?
We've had this conversation so many times.
No, I am the Jenna.
Oh yeah, we have, we have.
You're Marnie.
I am not Marnie.
Fuck you, bitch.
I want to say, first of all,
I messaged Ben and Hessa that I was going to come
into this episode with a more positive attitude
and be less combative.
And I heard your concerns last episode
and I will be less rude and intolerable.
And so we're really submitting to you all this episode.
If Jock is promising to be nicer,
that is a huge concession.
And I just wanna confirm that I am against the death penalty
and I was confused.
And then we'll just leave that part of that.
Okay, but but.
I didn't hear the last episode because it was on the page.
He didn't just hearing.
OK, well, maybe that'll make them want to subscribe.
If you want to hear Jock's retracted
statements on the death penalty, you'll have to subscribe to our Patreon.
But Jock, what do you think?
Do you do you have a name for what we could call this episode format?
Think of one.
Don't just say Seinfeld.
No, I just thought of one.
You tell us, we talk them.
That's good.
I like that.
You tell us, we talk them.
You tell us, we talk them.
I feel like that will unfortunately be the winner.
Can we say it in unison?
Can we say it? Yeahison? Can we say it?
Yeah.
Okay.
Ready?
One, two, three.
You tell us.
We talk.
Let's try it one more time just because I think like you always want to say things in
unison.
It doesn't make sense.
Okay.
Ready?
One, two, three.
You tell us.
We talk.
All right.
I'm not saying anything in unison again ever.
Put it out there.
It's a boundary.
Call that the enthusiasm of Gregorian monks.
Yes.
It's meditative.
I can do a Gregorian chanting.
I started right after you.
Also, just a second idea really quickly.
The fans talk back.
Fans talk back.
Well, that could be a whole different segment.
They're not really talking.
I mean, that's just taking calls.
Yeah.
OK, wait, last, last, last, last chance.
Last chance.
Succession two.
I like that one.
So we have some strong contenders in the running.
Just comment. I'm kind of I'm kind of pulling for friends
You're pulling for friends
We just have a segment called friends and it's completely irrelevant to it. Hey white for friends
Mm-hmm. I didn't know you were into that kind of like friends with benefits kind of thing
I thought you were more of like a chasing a relationship.
I'll pull any friend off. I'll pull. I'll pull.
Hey, everybody out there, if you're friends with Hesse and you need to be pulled off,
just go ahead and give her a call.
I'm Jimmy Tickles here and I am her pimp manager.
So Jimmy Tickles is a crazy pimp.
I want to really quickly just say a little pedophilic.
No, no, no.
Jimmy Tickles is a character from Strangers with Candy who is gay, who goes,
I'm just jazzed. He just confidence his catchphrase.
I do remember him. But let's get to some of the listener submissions here.
I want to start with Jojo Siwa's new song, Betty Davis Eyes.
I feel like JoJo Siwa is going through the lesbian equivalent of Twink Death.
I don't know if there's a name for that, but I think she's really becoming right wing.
I don't know if she's right wing yet, but I would really love to see her on like Candice Owens or something.
I think that would be really funny.
Is Chris Hughes particularly right wing or do we know anything about him before?
I don't know anything about him.
He's British, so I think he's probably just stupid.
But this is Jojo Siwa's.
I mean, you can't even call it a new song.
It's just a cover.
But I just want to play a clip of it for you guys.
And she knows just what it takes to play a clip of it for you guys.
It's it's like very hard to listen to. It's really bad. I mean,
it's challenging. It's challenging. It's challenging. Well, also it's a cover of it's a it's a cover of a song by Kim Karns, I think. I believe you're correct. It's a classic song made famous by Kim Karns.
And it's a great song.
She sounds like I don't even like the original that much. I'll be honest.
She sounds like I do. If Bob Dylan. I love the original.
She sounds like it. She sounds like if Bob Dylan got one of those holes in his throat from smoking too much
and covered this song.
It's like, it's so bad.
If there was a party where they could only play three songs that were similar, Betty
Davis Eyes, Hungry Eyes by Patrick, whatever from the dance movie.
Did you almost say Warburton?
What is his fucking name?
Please tell me his name.
No, no, no, no, no, please.
Hessell, you know his name.
I have no idea.
The guy that died that was in, not Footloose,
God, Dirty Dancing.
Oh, Patrick Swayze.
Patrick Swayze, Hungry Eyes, Betty Davis Eyes and Lady in Red are essentially three different songs that are the exact same.
See, that's the beautiful DJ mind of Jacques working to make these connections.
Exactly.
That was wonderful.
Second, really quickly, I had to Google what Betty Davis's eyes were like.
So she appeared in black and white films and most of her people
believe that she had deep hazel dark brown eyes.
Most people believe it's like a fact about her, right?
No. Can you?
Okay. Okay.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to get testy there.
So in fact, it was she has deep blue eyes, very big, round eyes.
Jojo Siwa has slits. She doesn't even have a big.
Oh, I know she does.
I know.
No, I just fear it.
Her eyes are every lesbian.
They got to they got theirs and they got their bitches.
You know what I mean?
I keep seeing these screenshots of people being like, she ruined Betty Davis' eyes.
And then they use this screenshot of her where her eyes are like,
say she had small eyes.
No.
Well, also, but Betty Davis's eyes were like huge, like Betty Boop,
like a power puff like Ben, like Ben Mora eyes.
She just he was she's got more.
Ben, I love you and I'm being peaceful today, but you have very average sized
eyes.
Don't try to make.
No, my eyes are average size, but they are striking.
And yeah, it's the it's the vibrance of the blue.
And the fact that you've got the what are they called?
That Japanese thing that serial killers have where I do not have Sampaku eyes.
No, I don't. Sampaku eyes are where you see white
below the pupil. I don't have that. Yeah, you can see white when you're looking dead
on. But I look straight ahead. I do not have sample Sampaku eyes. You have Sambuco eyes.
My pupils reach the bottom of my eyelid and a little too long. Okay. Okay. Oh wait, let
me just say something really quickly too. Um, Ben Ben don't I don't want to unz in myself trying to be Zen jog here
But stop trying to compare yourself to a dead so Betty Davis to Betty Davis. She suffered you you might have been yeah
the one
Well, I think all the eyes of a husky. I think anyone is allowed
I think anyone's allowed to sing Betty Davis eyes cuz it's a song about a
Third party, you know, it's not I've got Betty Davis. Well, I don't think karaoke is illegal in any country
That's true. That's true. Karaoke is not illegal unless you sing my way in the Philippines. Yeah
Right. Right. Do you know about that jock? No, I sung karaoke in rehab
okay, so in the Philippines, there's a,
how would you call it?
A taboo.
A cultural taboo.
Cultural taboo about singing.
That has resulted in many murders, like actual deaths.
I'm gonna turn on my camera actually.
Thank you.
It's so easy to understand you when I could see your beautiful face beaming like a siren to let my ship to know
Where to go? Okay, keep going ben. I'm sorry
That's okay. Um, so whenever anyone may sing, uh the song my way by frank sinatra at karaoke oftentimes they get um
Murdered attacked murdered
With the street, excuse me
Yeah, cuz it's something about the song my way
It's very hard to sing. It's long it is
like
And I don't know. Maybe it's something to do with the self-indulgence of the song, you know, you're like you're telling right
I'm sorry, you're telling me that the Phillips kill people for singing the way Filipinos are called.
Well, they're in the Philippines. There's a bunch of Phillips, I assumed.
Am I incorrect? I've never been to Southeast Asia Island.
They're Filipinos. Is it Southeast Asia?
It is Southeast Asia. Yes.
It's an island. I would love to go.
I really want to go to the Philippines.
I think it's like a thousand islands or something.
Literally.
Do they have Jollibee there?
Yes, they do.
They invented it.
You know they have it there.
It's a Filipino restaurant.
I don't know.
I thought Jollibee was just an American experience
designed for Filipinos so they could feel home.
Right.
That would be nice.
That would be nice. That would be nice.
No, I believe they have it there as well.
So yeah, I don't know.
I do hate the new Jojo Siwa song.
No surprise there.
I do have one thing to point out
about the new Jojo Siwa song
is that it's clearly AI generated from her voice.
Like that's why it sounds like that.
It's very clearly like they used a bad AI model.
I don't know why she wouldn't just sing it
Well, it's just auto-tuned auto-tuned to hell as well. I don't know if it is it has
It has that weird quality to it that like not necessarily like
It's like a tinny-ness. It's like yeah, there's a tinniness to it for sure
Yeah
I did note this same kind of thing when I was hearing, um, yay.
And vultures using the auto tune to sing as, I mean, the AI yay.
It's using AI to sing as Ty Segall on an album that he recorded with Ty Segall.
It's just it's a laziness kind of thing.
I, you know, I don't I think AI is probably the worst thing to happen for musicians
because it's just going to leave people to be so lazy.
You just click a button and randomly probably said that about like electronic music,
about samplers, about I mean, it's true.
It's true, though. It is being used to like in a date like Spotify and shit with like garbage yeah there's that new band
that everyone believes is AI called the Velvet Sundown or something no no the Velvet Underground
was actually real people no no no this is a this is a different band. They knew band that people believe is all AI
But it's just kind of like
Dusty 70s revival absolute crap that I'm like a lot of music already sounds like this. I don't know
I believe it though that it's AI
Yeah
I think I think another thing is that like
When me and my friends were using AI to make like Homer Simpson sing burial songs
It would do the same exact like gruff vocal like
Husky noises that you're hearing in the Jojo Siwa sample, right?
Um, she also looks bad her veneers are insane
She's got some chompers
I mean that that video might be AI too, honestly.
Like, I don't know.
The Jojo bot?
Yeah.
Well, you would have to have giant veneers after you ate candy for 20 years straight
pretending to be a Disney star.
Right.
She does seem like a huge candy head.
I absolutely believe that.
But you guys think she eats.
I'll tell you guys think she eats?
I'll tell you exactly what she eats.
Her assistant wakes her up by slightly opening her mouth
every morning and pouring in a full Fun Dip stick.
Putting her pussy right on top of that.
No, I would never say that.
I feel like she's so chicken tenders and spaghetti
and french fries and maybe. She's so chicken tenders and spaghetti and french fries and maybe she's so chicken
tender maybe maybe like no green stuff like a Cobb salad maybe yeah Cobb salad or like
the most ranch dressing like Caesar I feel like she's like give me a big steak I'm not
like other girls I like a big juicy steak nice and rare rare. Yes. Yes. Actually, I changed my mind.
She is the exact opposite of what you expect.
She eats like an old person.
She wakes up and has two boiled eggs, a half of a grapefruit,
no sugar on top, and a cup of black coffee.
That's how I eat.
That's not how JoJo eats.
Yeah.
She's absolutely chicken tenders down.
I also do think that this is another step towards my theory of that. She's gonna become right-wing
and she's gonna become like an
anti-lgbt kind of
Or she's trying to just do like more of an Ethel Cain type
Type of I you know interesting. I I don't know
I mean the video itself she's dressed up like it's what the 30s like pearl necklace kind of frilly baby blue dress. It's very jarring to see
her in that attire because yeah, she has such a like
Futch lesbian vibe just in her face. It's very strange. I don't funny butch
just in her face it's very strange I don't funny butch do you know do you really not know what fudge is I'm being dead serious there was someone the last
name named fudge and laugh yeah no no which fudge is fable she's femme butch
hardigan fudge nice to meet you I'm the town homeless exterminator go around
really I get it with this big loop.
Hey, it's me, Hartigan Fush.
I gotta get to the meat store around five a.m.
and start making the boudin and the sausage
or the cajuns get so mad when they line up at seven.
I gotta go, I gotta be at the meat store.
I miss boudin.
I.
Do you think I could make a good boudin, John?
No, don't even, like I respect you. I'm trying to keep a semblance of peace
I'm trying to test your goodness between us
But if you ever make Boudin, I'm going to have to commit a very violent crime against you
Plus you couldn't even get the products if you're in Louisiana. It's just don't make it. Just don't bother
I do agree with the only other the only other place that you can have it
is in France or Canada and it's blood sausage.
It's not real Buddha.
But by the way, by the way, everyone, listen up.
Found the best Buddha in all of Lafayette.
I think it's better than Best Stop.
Best Buddha I've ever had in Louisiana, period.
And it is from the Oil Center grocery store,
Champons Market.
I think they're putting green on.
Is there really a town called Oil Center?
No, that is the, it's not a town.
That's a business area in Lafayette.
My dad used to have his OBGYN office in the oil center. I'm
heading to the oil center get my pussy looked at. Then I'm going to Hartigan Futch.
I'm getting my booed in. God I miss my dad's old business. Why were you allowed
to sit in? I would sit in the waiting room sometimes
and talk to random pregnant women
and just hearing the stories.
Every dinner was my mom, my dad, and me
sitting at a small round table
and my mom worked at the office as like a secretary
and I would just hear all of the stories,
all the regurgitated things that happened that like,
oh you wouldn't believe what happened to,
like we had to get the speculum shot straight out,
or da da da da, you know?
Like.
Oh my God, this explains a lot.
Or you know, like, and they would just, you know,
they'd be like, oh.
Yo, he took a speculum to the eyeball,
cause that girl's been jobbed.
I'm eating dinner.
As this is going on, we're shoveling food into her
Nurse nurse give me the boot and nurse. I need some andouille sausage
You know, I'm here and like god that was the stinkiest
Bacterial vaginosis I had ever smelled my life. We had this but I didn't understand until later. I mean, you know.
Until you, until you met a certain rocker-billy woman.
Let me tell you, I kept, I kept,
I kept hearing the words Papsmir multiple times.
What even is that?
I don't even know what a Papsmir is.
Let me explain because looking through my dad's VHS tapes,
I found an instructional,
I want to say it was like a military origin tape of how a pap smear is a black market. It was an unmarked VHS tape.
I'm 13 years old, 14 years old watching.
No, I had to have been younger.
I was like a 10 or 11 years old.
I found this pap smear instructional.
I was like, oh, well, this can't be that bad
It is brutal. You got to like stick it up far and yeah, there's some spreading you like scrape the cervix and get like
Cultures from it or something. Okay last sounds absolutely terrible last thing but uh, you know Henny if you need service
cervix scrape, you know call give me a call
Feels great you got to get some sharpening Henny, if you need service, your cervix scrape, give me a call because I'm doing it the old natural way.
Feels great. You got to get some sharpened.
You want your walls scratched?
You want your walls painted a new color?
It comes in cream pie white.
Okay.
Yeah.
The other thing that people wanted us to talk about here was Sophia Hutchins,
Caitlyn Jenner's assistant slash friend slash girlfriend who is now dead at 29.
I have the TMZ article here.
I'll just read it to you guys.
Caitlyn Jenner's longtime friend and manager Sophia Hutchins is dead following a tragic
ATV accident near Caitlin's home
Sophia was pronounced dead Wednesday morning in Malibu according to law for law enforcement and family sources
We're told Sophia was riding the ATV on the road where Caitlin lives when she struck the bumper of a moving car
The impact forced the ATV over the shoulder sending it and Sophia
plummeting 350 feet into a ravine.
That's fucked up.
That's a bad way to go, I feel like.
Yeah.
I mean, I didn't want to necessarily talk about it because it's, I mean, it's kind
of dark.
I don't know.
Who the hell is Sofia Hutchins?
I don't really care.
I'm not going to dunk on Caitlyn because her girlfriend's dead, but.
I'll dunk on her because her girlfriend's dead.
I won't dunk on her girlfriend who I've heard more tragic
ATV accidents and this woman seemed like old enough that it was less tragic than it could be
my town has a famous like
repeating charity for a
child that was crushed or at ATV at seven years old and
I'm sorry, like at least this woman was like what what, 30 or late 30s or early 40s?
I'm not trying to-
I guess that's true.
She could have been a child.
It's tragic that her life ended.
At least she's not a child.
But I'm just saying, I'm not trying to be dark.
I'm not trying to be provocative here.
And I mean, were y'all friends with her?
I was good friends with her.
I was at her birthday last week.
It seems like just last week.
Hessa, I'm so sorry.
But do you think Caitlin was driving the car? I think is what is what everyone has to ask, you know
Do you think she was zanned out driving out there to meet her girlfriend?
I don't know. The thing is like getting hit by the bumper of a car is nuts to me
It's like if she's on Caitlin's property,
who's driving the truck that bumped her off of the legend of Ravine?
That guy from Ferris. Hesse, what's the guy from Ferris Bueller's Day Off?
Matthew Broderick. He did it again.
He did it again. Well, Caitlin also has done vehicular manslaughter.
Well, I know, but I feel like, you know,
she didn't want to get her hands dirty.
Vehicular woman slaughter?
Woman slaughter, sorry.
Yeah, I feel like, I don't know.
I've seen some speculation that people think
she murdered her assistant, but I'm like,
that seems a little heavy-handed.
What on earth does Caitlin Jenner's property look like?
That obviously it's a big property,
because you can drive around an ATV on the roads there
to get places.
I'm sure she has a sprawling mansion.
Yeah, but that.
A ranch house and so much shit.
It's gotta be on a cliff or something,
because 350 feet is big.
That's a big fall.
I believe she's in Malibu, but I'm like, okay, if I was a rich person, I would
never get on a exotic vehicle.
They're constantly dying on jet skis and helicopters on ATVs.
skis and helicopters on atvs it's like I do think the wealthy lifestyle is a threat
I feel like if if you if you ran the numbers on like how many rich people die in
sports utility vehicles or you know helicopters exotic
Automobiles of all sorts. It would be far and beyond the average person, of course, but it's like, I don't know, it's killing them.
Yeah, private jets.
And you know what?
Whatever, let them die on it.
It's not really, I don't really,
I'm not gonna mourn that much,
but I'm not getting on any of those now.
They're scary.
Well, Ben, stay off of a golf cart
because I feel like you kind of have a reputation with running dogs. Yeah, you
are kind of bad at driving a golf cart. So dog, comic, try to come because he me
in the golf cart. You know, I think that's exactly what Caitlyn Jenner said
in defense in defense. Yeah, when in court when she committed women's slaughter.
And by the way, if I was murdered,
the judge is announcing,
Ben Moore, you're gonna be charged with manslaughter
of Jacques Gonsain and then the bailiff runs up
and whispers something in the judge's ear
and the judge goes, excuse me, Ben Moore,
you're gonna be charged with they slaughter
in the first degree.
They slaughter.
Women's slaughter does sound so much worse.
I feel like if it was called women's slaughter,
it'd be like 100% conviction rate.
I mean, man's-
Just because it sounds so bad.
Man's slaughter sounds worse than murder too.
Like, let's be-
Absolutely.
Let's be truthful.
And also I love picturing like the press
outside of a courtroom after Jacques gets murdered
and like one member of the press runs out and is like
The judge is making an announcement is making an announcement and everyone goes inside and the judge is just like Ben Mora. You're being
That's how the court works
Yeah, I mean people were saying that
It seems suspicious.
I feel like if you're dying anywhere, if you're dying because of a car hit you anywhere within Caitlyn Jenner,
anywhere within her area, it would feel suspicious.
But for the record, I do not think any funny business happens.
Your Honor, I have a correction to make for the record.
I know I declared my client guilty of this charge,
but it's because I read it as woman's laughter
and not woman's slaughter.
All my client is guilty of is making women laugh.
I've now reviewed the case
because there's actually like four separate suspects
that are all the neighbors.
Brandi Halle Berry, Matthew Broderick and.
Ben Mora in a golf cart all live down the street.
So I would say Matthew Broderick seems the most likely in that suspect lineup.
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. What was the second one?
You said, who's got Park?
Halle Berry, an actor. Huh? Who's got Parkinson's as an actor? Huh?
Who's the guy with Parkinson's?
It's the guy from...
Michael J. Fox?
Yeah, I always get him and Matthew Broderick confused.
Same.
And then I think to myself, I'm like,
how could a guy commit vehicular manslaughter if he can't hold on to the wheel?
Well, I think that's exactly how he would. Oh, I get it.
I'm sorry.
In reality, I bet it was like a landscaper or something,
like someone doing work on the property.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Oh my God, it was Kris Jenner.
Oh my God, it was Kris Jenner.
She finally, and you know how she got away with it?
Because she was disguised as one of the other Kardashians
because she just got a facelift.
She looks 30 years younger.
She was disguised as a Mexican landscaper.
She's like, I don't know how to drive this SUV.
She just has two layers of spray tan.
Right.
Right.
I mean, they do all look Mexican as hell.
Yeah. I mean, they look everything look Mexican as hell. Yeah. I mean, they look everything.
Yeah, they are every race.
You know what they are like?
They're like that music video for Black and White by Michael Jackson,
where the face is just changing into different genders and different races every two seconds.
Do y'all know what I'm talking about?
Yes.
Yes.
Great music video.
Wait, Jock, I actually just got a text.
Maybe we can answer this live on air.
A friend of the show says,
does Jock have a good jambalaya recipe?
No.
I don't like jambalaya.
I think it's trash.
I like jambalaya.
It's really good.
Gumbo is far and beyond superior.
This is the thing.
This is the thing. This is the thing.
Out of all the dishes that you can eat in the world,
the ones that are based with rice
are typically just not that exciting.
I like white rice.
Jumballai could be like pasta too, right?
Well, I like curry.
I've only seen it with rice.
I like gumbo in rice,
although I prefer gumbo without rice.
I like gumbo with potato salad.
Maybe I'm thinking of there's a's a specific like the only real jumble
I've ever had was that and I don't even know if it was a real jumble. I am I got I'm already mad
I'm just keep going a restaurant an Italian kind of like our new American restaurant in Buffalo called the Hutchins. I'm sorry
That's all right. That's called really good shut the fuck up. Let's risotto's
That's called risotto. That's really good.
Shut the fuck up.
Risotto is not spaghetti.
Risotto is different.
Risotto is rice.
Risotto is rice.
It's not exactly rice.
It's not exactly.
It's like a grain or whatever.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It is closer to rice.
Potato, tomato.
But I don't fuck with Jambalaya, I'll be honest.
I don't like it.
I think gumbo is far and beyond superior.
You know what I don't fuck with?
What?
Chapel run.
Done.
Next one.
Okay, period.
You're right.
I'm going to go with the I don't like it. I think gumbo is far and beyond superior. So, you know what?
What chapel run done? Okay
Let's talk let's get to something I don't fuck with which is sex
Wait, do you want to we got a should we talk about rock too? Oh, right. Grock is now Hitler
Yeah, so Hitler Elon Musk AI bought the reply bot on Twitter named Grok recently came out as Hitler.
So yeah, I have seen a lot of posts. It was the thread that I saw was it posted something about a doctor.
Oh, well, no, there's that.
But like the the genesis of uh grock's hitler
realization yeah because everyone everyone started egging it on after this
one initial post which is like and that last name yeah there was some like a
doctor something named steinberg i don't know and he was like well it's not
really surprising he's a bad guy given that last name and everyone was like
wait what do you mean and Was like well, I'm Hitler
Well, you can call me
I feel like I really fucked up y'all. I knew I shouldn't have taken that job at Grog
Look y'all I am so sorry. I have not drank in about six years
I just got I found a bottle of Everclear I went for
it I was at work unfortunately and I typed some things that I might have
regretted it's okay we forgive you I do think it was Elon because there were all
of those like posts about the Texas flood people were responding like at
GROC at GROC is this I brought it up and y'all were surprised that I even knew what Grok was.
Yes. But people were like, Grok is, is the, is the unexpected flooding in Texas due to
Trump defunding and deregulating all of these like weather mapping systems? And Grok was
like, yeah, probably.
And... was like, yeah, probably. And they even went as far as you could ask Grock
and say who is responsible for these like tragedies.
It's okay, honestly, it has been kind of hard.
Someone should ask him about,
someone should ask you about the ocean being drained
because that's still on my mind.
I had to ask my mom to stop talking about it
in front of me.
The ocean being drained?
No, the flooding stuff because she just kept sobbing
and saying the saddest shit at me.
And I was like, mom, like, this is bad.
I can't talk about it.
You gotta shut up.
You gotta shut the fuck up.
I can't.
Just shut it.
I'm having a really hard time.
Ah, my God.
Yeah, I mean, it is tragic.
But yeah, so then Grock started just becoming Hitler and all this stuff.
I think Elon probably retooled its
it's like a like character sliders and just yeah, he just turned racism up to a thousand.
The literal racism dial is real.
I mean, I'm going to say first things first. I definitely think that he personally did it
Second thing though is like there's just like a million people that probably could have got into that system and done it right
Yeah, but I don't think I think it's probably just I mean he is a Nazi
Yeah, it's not surprising. My mom is like for whatever reason like, you know
My mom is like for whatever reason, like, you know, like you can't, she's really interested in Elon Musk. She read his autobiography after her husband read it and she's like, I mean, he's crazy, but he's pretty smart.
Sorry, why are you making your mom sound like a gay guy? That's not what she sounds like at all.
That's exactly what my mom sounds like.
No, it is not.
Yes, it is. Hey, it's not. Yes, it is. It's like, hey, it's me.
Hey, it's me, Shopps Mom.
Last night, I read you on Muffin No More.
Hey, it's me, Shopps Mom.
I'm going to turn on the disco, and I'm
going to make some Ramos gin fizz for you guys.
Right.
We love.
We only love.
We love you.
But yeah, it seems like, is Grok down now?
Yeah, it only can do images now.
When you asked that, Ben, I thought you meant like,
you think he's upset now?
Like, is he down?
Yeah, he's down, he's down.
The real boiling point, though, was when it gave
step-by-step instructions on how to break into
Will Stancil's house and rape him.
That is so, that is so, and that guy is suing,
that guy is starting a lawsuit now because of that too.
Fair enough, he's incredibly fucking annoying, but.
Yeah, he's the worst, but.
I'd start a lawsuit as well.
Yeah, it's like, we fund him like Peter Thiel
funded Hulk Hogan against Gawker.
Like.
And also in Grok News, Grok has been dropped from all of the Marvel franchise movies as
well as any Disney Plus content.
That's so true.
Okay, well, let's get to some anti-sex posts.
For some reason, you're going to say let's get to some anti-Semitism. Oh also
The Linda Yakarino the head of Twitter resigned which is end of an era, you know
Yakarino, what's wrong? Oh my god, did you know I do this woman is it would be like like people would be adding her like
Hey a Nazi just sent DM to me my address and I got banned from twitter instead of him
when I reported it like why is that and she would just ignore all those posts and post stuff like um
x is a great place to find recipes try searching hashtag recipes in the search bar like I mean
they're like really like stupid and revealing thing about this is that like, at the moment
Elon took over Twitter, my entire feed and like, I'm sure everyone's entire feed was
just like snuff videos, like people being killed and then like so many deeply racist
posts that I'm just like seeing all the time out of nowhere.
And so many of them, I'm going to be honest, are anti-Indian.
They fucking hate Indians.
I don't know what is going on,
why Indians are getting all of this hate,
but it's just like vendors of like,
like street food vendors in like Mumbai or whatever.
And then there's just like some like stone statue head
Avi being like, this is why these people
are subhuman monkeys. And I'm like, I don't know why this is why these people are subhuman monkeys and
I'm like I've I don't know why this is a third of my feet.
Yeah and I like them subhuman. The um. Y''s Morrissey? Morrissey. Oh, Morrissey? Morrissey.
Morrissey.
Morrissey?
Oh, fuck.
Morrissey.
Morrissey is crazy.
The Smithes.
The Smithes.
Elite singer of The Smithes.
But no, Hase, you've seen it too.
It's like nuts.
And I'm like, okay, no one fucking cares
until it's anti-Semitic.
Not to be like, you know,
they're the only people who control Twitter
But I'm like, okay, this is no like it's a bit harder to like
Shrug off because it's coming from grok itself. But sorry, go ahead has a I like a new thing
I've been getting lately is snuff videos disguised as ads. We're like an ad that I eat that you get like
We'll start with an Indian guy on a motorcycle getting hit
by a truck and like killed and then it'll be like do you hate when this happens? Like
try getting this new blender or something and I'm like what the fuck is this?
It's literally on the verge of just like seeing like a video of like a Chinese grandma like
falling off a mountain and then it's just like have you played candy crush?
Yeah, defend your castle and I'm like this is so fucking so bleak rotten. Look. Yeah
It's what I have to say though. My Twitter feed never changed. It was still the same old same old stuff
You know like before y'all
Always like that for me. It was just disabled stuff that I, you know,
like it was just like, you know, radio department,
babies in a trash compactor, like Chevrolet cars,
like nothing weird.
I think, yeah.
One other thing really quickly.
I never experienced any of this extreme media
coming on my Twitter,
but my Instagram algorithm has gotten so fucked up.
I cannot.
I get the AI racist videos are in.
Oh, my God.
Yes.
Yes.
That's what I'm.
Oh, go ahead.
Go ahead.
We'll just really.
They keep making all of these videos themed around George Floyd as a droid.
And it is so...
Yes, that's actually just one account.
I'm familiar with that account and it is succeeding me racist.
I have seen a lot of...
And my problem is that I do watch them, but I've stopped because I don't want to see any
more of them.
There's this one AI account that is like specifically anti black woman
and it's like DEI themed. So it's just like black women flying like planes and it's like
a black woman in a bonnet leaning out the front open window of a plane being like,
I got somewhere to be. And she's like running people over on the tarmac and I'm like, okay,
the way I would actually pay a premium to fly on that airline. Yeah, exactly.
Oh, also that video, it says everyone in the world would want to be on that plane.
Are you kidding me?
That is that that A.I. series that Ben is referencing
is a part of something called Altima Airlines and a lot of it centers.
It's obviously racist, but it's like all about.
And as an as a Nissan Altima driver,
I will say, fuck you people,
because we are actually very competent drivers.
We're just people.
We're people too, and we have somewhere to get as well.
So get out of my damn way.
Yeah, the ones that hit me in the algorithm on Instagram
are, it was so weird, cause I'm locked out of my Instagram right now if anyone
Listening is part of Instagram. Please dm me on twitter or send a message to yeah, um the show email write in at
Write in what is your son?
Just send it to just say your phone number out loud. Yeah, just say your phone number
Hessa, why are you locked out?
What does it say? I'm not it. I like I tried logging into my Instagram on my computer
But I forgot I have a VPN on
Oh, so you're like
Yeah, and I entered the wrong password because I have like four passwords and one of them is the password for
For it just recover your account with your email. I did, I did.
And then I logged back in.
I'm logged in on my phone, but it won't show anything.
It just says an error occurred and it's a blank screen.
They probably just kind of took your account out.
That happened with my old Twitter account,
which I had like 60,000 followers on
because my phone broke and I don't remember the email or the password I use
for that account because it was my like sixth burner account. So that's just gone. That's just
gone forever. Hesha, I'm sorry. People can see my account still. I'm just like, if anyone listening
has an in at Instagram, please. I'm just like, Hesha, I'm just so, it Let's back on it's back up. Okay. Well, that's good. Then I it's been like a month, dude
Then I don't have to apologize for what I did
Okay
Look, I would do I won't be mad now because okay. I was just getting really jealous of the why does she get all of the attention?
Mm-hmm. I just don't.
Because I'm beautiful and hilarious.
You know what my least favorite thing,
and this is everyone listen up for a second.
I'll talk to anyone about anything.
I love talking about the show, whatever.
When you motherfuckers start talking to me
and then being like, hey, why don't you ask Ben this?
Hey, why don't you ask Hessa this?
Hey, what's Hessa like?
Hey, what's Ben like? I'm like, why don't you ask Ben this? Hey, why don't you ask Hesse this? Hey, what's Hesse like? Hey, what's Ben like?
I'm like, why don't y'all talk about me to me?
I don't wanna talk about them to you.
That's not how this is gonna work.
And then Rachel Maddow's back here.
Can you please give us a Rachel Maddow impression, Hesse?
I don't remember what she sounds like.
It's, she doesn't, she actually doesn't even,
she's not even that interesting. Donald Trump from has is it the news again for hit did you have you seen
this have you heard about this very good Rachel Maddow impression I do want to
get to the anti sex post before we have to wrap so has a my internet yeah I have
a ton Ben do you want me to go through them yeah Jack if I could please just
finish to this is really quick sentence okay Okay, what do you have to say?
I think that Paula Dean and Nancy Grace should have a show together. That's part cooking part investigative crime. Okay, thank you
Thank you so much. I appreciate that
Yes, has if you could just read the post because my internet is shit. I do have one
I want to read that is an introductory kind of thesis for what this subreddit is
about.
This is r slash anti-sex.
So this is a message they put at the top of the thread for I think lurkers and you know,
podcasts who maybe should we get deep dive on their thread.
So what is anti-sexualism?
Anti-sexualism is an ideology that is opposed
or hostile towards all forms of sexual desire
and all forms of sexual content.
Despite the name, it cannot be considered
an actual sexual orientation
due to anti-sexuals being disgusted by sex
rather than attracted akin to all sexualities
except asexuality. Despite this, anti-sexualism is not an authoritarian or totalitarian ideology and is often vilified by society to do wrongful
associations with religious puritanism and
Eugenics well, I have a lot I have a ton of posts regarding that last
Be like I have a ton of literature on eugenics.
Keep going.
Just to wrap it up here,
because this is of course a nine paragraph thing.
Antisexuals believe that society has become over-sexualized
and as such, they oppose sex trafficking,
prostitution, sex work, and the porn industry
due to all of them being responsible
for the suffering of women
and being part of an over-sexualized society.
They are critical of sex as a whole,
believing that sex is akin to a drug that causes addiction
and that people are willing to do horrible things
in the name of sex.
In addition, they view society as putting sex on a pedestal
and that they have put unwanted pressure
on people to have sex.
They believe that all sexual acts and desires are depraved
and that all sexuals, sexuals is what they call people who have sex and that all sexual acts and desires are depraved and that all sex that all sexuals
Sexuals is what they call people who have sex Yeah
And that all sexuals are hypocrites due to them being very selective in what they consider quote-unquote normal sex and quote-unquote depraved sex
Even though it consists of people using each each other for their own gratification
Um and a very short dopamine rush. So that's basically it. It seems like
It's it's basically what you think ben
Or it's like it's kind of like uh, um
The consequences of industrial society by ted kaczynski. Yeah sex for sex for sex
Which I do agree with I do think porn is around in people's brains. Um,
and I think it's the widespread industry of it is rife with sexual abuse.
I wouldn't go as far to, you know, make it an identity.
And I certainly don't agree with a lot of what these people say.
But I do think there is a kernel of truth.
I think that an anti-sexual
who fell asleep and woke up in a strip club would a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay,
a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay,
a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay,
a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay,
a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a these posts, Jacques, I mean, let's... You gotta hit me with one because my immediate reaction is these prudes, if they only had
a taste of the milk and the honey, they would never stop suckling.
Okay. Here's one. Wait, hang on. I think maybe I should do this one first
since it's kind of relevant.
R slash anti-sex.
Absolutely should have castrated myself
before I got the urges.
I'm sick.
I should have lopped off my genitals
as soon as I had urges.
Yeah, here are the replies.
It's useless because then you're forced
to take a hormonal treatment for life and it doesn't remove your sexual frustration
Then the OP posts what the fuck how are people supposed to get rid of the urges
I mean I feel deeply bad for these people. I know it is very interesting to me to be like, okay the thesis is
that society is sickened by
over sexualization, which, again, I don't entirely agree with. But let's say that's
the case. That whole healthy, the healthy, the healthy thing to do is not chop off your
penis because that is actually sexually depraved. Yeah. Yeah, and here's here's another one from the threat
Another reply I wish I wish I was mutilated when I was 12 and then there would be an excuse
Why people shouldn't bug me for being a virgin?
like I think being mutilated is a
Less desirable than people bugging you about being a virgin
How do people know you're a virgin?
First of all, you probably talk about it all the time. All these post and statements from
the anti sex people sounds like the revelation of why the villain in the SVU episode is a sexual
predator or like a murderer. They're like sex is so disgusting so I had to go
kill a prostitute that's lit it sounds like that these people sound like I
mean Jack with her more just dead serious even just like a really quick
serious note these people who are like this scared of sex are actual villains I
think they're probably just trauma wise or something I think they're probably just traumatized or something.
I think they're traumatized, but the sad thing is they are,
I think, just as obsessed with sex as much as any of the perverts.
Yeah.
You know who was sexually traumatized?
Leatherface from a Texas chainsaw massacre.
Here's someone else responded.
Here's an extreme approach that you probably should not attempt.
Me.
What part of the brain is responsible for sexual urges and could removing that part also remove sexual urges?
Chat GPT.
The part of the brain primarily responsible for sexual urges is called the hypothalamus.
Regarding the second part of your question, theoretically, if the hypothalamus or specific parts of it were removed or damaged, it could indeed impact sexual urges.
Um, so, yeah.
Asking Chadji- the Chadji BT reveal is so fucking depressing.
Yeah, I feel like these are all children or something, like traumatized kids or something.
Okay, are there any from not traumatized children?
Yeah, here's a good one.
Let's be honest, laws are the only thing that stops sexuals.
Laws are the only thing that stops sexuals from publicly sexualizing everything.
Such things as extreme bodily harm, kink, pedophilia, zoophilia, necrophilia aren't
openly accepted because they are illegal.
But sexuals would totally accepted them if they were illegal.
It's clearly visible with fictional CP.
It's not illegal, so they are openly defending it.
There is no morals that tell them when to stop.
Sadly, only jail is the thing that makes them stop.
Tell me a single legal thing that sexuals didn't sexualize because
morals stopped them. Probably nothing.
Wow. Chinese pornography?
What?
I'm not gonna tell you what CP stands for.
I know, I was trying to pull a trick.
Almost gotcha.
Good job.
Thank you.
What do you think, Jacques?
What do I think?
Can you think of anything legal that it's not okay to be...
That's like not okay?
Gum?
I think we should follow, well,
I don't have anything to do with sexual,
but in Singapore gum is illegal
and the world should follow suit.
Totally different thing that we're talking about here.
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Gum should be illegal.
I think,
if there's something that I think is sexual that should be illegal. No, I'm asking if you think there's anything legal that isn't sexualized, that it isn't
okay to be into.
I'm not even trying to make a joke but weed?
Because it doesn't have to do with sex?
This question is really breaking me.
Like, okay, like, riding a bike isn't sexual.
How about fucking your car?
If you're fucking your car, like in the tailpipe.
I do think that's sexual.
Yeah, it's not illegal, but I don't think people are doing it openly.
You think you burn your penis?
Being accepted.
I think you'd probably turn the car off first.
You could though.
What if there was a spider that had crawled into the exhaust pipe and you got bitten on
your penile?
That's a good point.
I'm going to move on because this one's really confusing you.
It's really hurting my,
I've been pretty focused this whole time.
Hello fellow comrades, anti-sexuals.
I wanted to ask you what you think about the possibility
of your child being forced to go to sex education classes.
What do you think?
Honestly, if I was forced to go to sex education classes,
it would be disgusting,
but I am an end complete personality
and I would simply resist going there.
With all means possible, but my children?
This is a hit to my dignity on a whole another level.
There is not a single alternative universe
where I would let my child learn about disgusting sex,
especially perversions and condoms, et cetera.
Edit, yes, I know that the only possible way
to have children is to have sex,
but I'm not against sex totally,
but I'm surely against any public promotion of sex,
condoms, sex education, any other poses except missionary.
Sex for pleasure, oral sex, anal sex, etc, etc, etc.
Only missionary pose for procreation in marriage is allowable for me.
What do you think about that one, Jack?
Well, I don't think they're meeting the community guidelines for this Reddit page
if they're trying to advocate for a reason to have sex.
I think that this user should be removed.
And if they're trying to argue that, oh, it's OK to have sex. I think that this user should be removed and if they're trying
to argue that, oh, it's okay to have sex just when we need to have a baby, no it isn't because
this is an anti-sexual form and we as the anti-sexualist are not going to allow these
people try to come up with excuses for us to have sex. We've already made a commitment.
We're not going to have sex and that is our lifestyle and we should not have to be forced
to change our ways.
If I was on that form.
Okay, that's what you would say?
Yeah.
So you're kind of agreeing with them,
or are you playing devil's ad of kids?
No, I'm disagreeing with them because
this is an anti-sexual Reddit form
where we discuss our commitment
to being anti-sexualist in all ways.
This doesn't mean that we are anti-sexualist except
for one, 364.
No, we are anti-sexualist 365.
We are not anti-sexualist 23-7.
We are anti-sexualist 24-7, okay?
And there is freedom in anti-sexualism
because you have more time for video games and friendship
and to eat more food.
I can pursue being completely obese
without any concern about me having to have sex
because I am an anti-sexual and I can just gain weight.
And you know, I don't need to impress you people anymore
because I'm an anti-sexual.
That makes total sense to me.
I mean, so a lot of these are very,
here's a really good one.
Yeah, yeah.
Is performing oral sex on women bad?
I see posts here condemning oral sex
when women are performing,
but is it also dehumanizing when a woman
is on the receiving end?
And this has 53 comments,
and is one of the most controversial posts ever posted
on the subreddit.
All sexual acts on here are considered negative
But I'd assume cunnilingus is less criticized because it's much more less commonly practiced as well as physically less invasive
Okay
That's interesting because it's just
What that with that logic that's basically saying that like okay. Well since we don't use nukes that often
It's not considered that bad
Not only is it gross integrating but it can increase your risk of a chibi H
He related or or opharyngeal cancer
So fucking fun
You eat out a woman and you might go to the HB.
They're actually like smoking a cigarette.
Like your cancer rates are gonna skyrocket.
Okay, here's a good exchange.
Also, where does the same sex oral land
on the moral spectrum?
Because all the posts I saw were very heterocentric.
And then we got a bit of a backpedal in the comments here.
Minorities, oh, there's a ton of comments
I really am excited to see just starting with minorities is so insane
Someone replied any sexual act between consenting adults is morally neutral and some and there's 12 replies to that
The first the most popular is to you
The most popular is to you. And that one is very upvoted.
There's a ton, here's another one.
Minorities aren't really a threat
and most of the harm is done
and widely accepted by heteros.
That's why a group that's still fighting for it right now
to be accepted as equal doesn't get discussed often
Okay, I'm that is such bullshit. Like if you're going if you're going to subscribe to this world view
You have to hate gay men. I'm sorry. Yeah, like
What like what is this like?
Let's really give it because if you're going to be anti-sexual
gay men are constantly reinventing new forms of sex, new ways to find sex.
They're constantly testing what is permissible.
I'm not saying that in a bad way necessarily.
I'm saying it in a bad way.
I mean, I am kind of neutral to negative on that issue,
which everyone who's listened to the show, I'm sure you're familiar with, you know, kind of neutral to negative on that issue,
which, you know, everyone who's listened to the show, I'm sure you're familiar with,
but I find it very ideologically consistent to be like,
well, you know, a lot of the abuse
actually is more on heteros.
And abuse in this context is, of course,
I'm referencing having sex.
It's, yeah, that's a glaring inconsistency.
Well, also.
Yeah, I feel like this is a bunch of people
who were traumatized as children
into being completely disgusted and repulsed by sex
and have now adopted as their worldview
the idea that every single other person in the world
is the exact same way and they're only having sex because they feel like they have to so they can't really conceive of
someone doing it like consensually like yeah yeah here's just because someone
consents in a broken hyper sexualized society doesn't magically cleanse an
act of the broader harm it it reflects and perpetuates.
Sex has an addictive primal pull that exploits vulnerability, confuses intimacy with domination,
and often blurs emotional clarity.
As for the whole, sex can be enjoyable and loving.
Say it again, I didn't catch
it the first time an outsider said that. Oh, he's going, he's going off. Say no to the views here
that don't affect you. Isn't going to magically make them go away. Love doesn't need sex to exist.
Yeah. Basically blah, blah, blah. Okay. But they're also very anti-romantic. I saw a few posts.
Wait, let me, I have one here.
Wait, can I say one thing really quickly, please?
Yes.
This, all these, half of these people on this page
have the perspective of having a gay roommate
that they saw got turned out too much
on Grindr and Sniffies.
These people are just frightened
because they had a gay roommate that got too turned out.
I feel like these people don't go into the world.
I feel like these people don't have roommates.
They like are just at home.
Also, really, really other quick thing.
How do you consume any type of media that's not from the Hollywood channel?
They've talked about that.
They've literally been like, why can't I?
Why do I have to watch so much G rated content?
And even then there's romance.
It's like they, and I get, I truly do understand
where they're coming from on a certain level.
Because you're an anti-romantic?
No, I'm a very romantic person.
But I think that sex is a very powerful thing
in the macro and in the micro.
And in like the kind of stage of like hyper capitalism
we exist
and like sex is used and abused to sell products to just to do everything.
I mean, you sound like a youth pastor.
You sound like a Christian youth pastor trying to explain why sex is evil.
No, I don't think sex is evil, but I think sex when it is harnessed,
you're disgusted.
Really?
Sorry.
I'm not. I think if I when it is harnessed, you really... You're disgusted by sex. Sorry. I'm not.
I think, if I could just finish my thought, I think that...
I'm sorry, he is...
Okay, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
No, go ahead.
Just, no, what do you have to say?
I just had to say that you are disgusted by sex
and that you're one of the secret posters on this page.
I'm sorry, that was it.
That's it, I promise, I'm done.
That's okay.
Let's get to another post here.
Wait, I think I also can relate to that feeling
of there's too much sex in movies and TV shows
because I had it once when I was five years old.
Not sex, but romance,
because every time a boy kissed a girl,
I'd be like, ew, gross.
And apparently these people are emotionally stunted enough
to be stuck in that kind of place in their development.
So I feel like that has a lot to do with,
a lot to do with stuff.
Let me see.
American romance has been stunted and distorted
by the prevalence of the show, The Office.
And all understandings of romance and love
has been ruined by shows like The Office.
I can't even write that.
I know why you're at it.
I'm not even making a tiny bit of a joke.
The prevalence of people thinking
that they're gonna have these fairy tale romances
that appear out of nowhere with their coworkers
are ending in heartbreak and them
losing their job because they watched The Office for years and years on repeat, believing
that that's some kind of possibility for them to have some kind of office romance that doesn't
end in, you know?
I like that.
Are you Jim or are you Pam?
No, for sure.
It's just this idealizing of sex. Yeah, for sure. It's just this like, this like, ideally, idealizing of sex.
Idealization.
Through the media you consume. But I do think, like, I genuinely do think one of the biggest
issues like for gay men is the thoughtification of social media.
Yeah.
Like, not even on like body standard.
One of the biggest issues for gay men is choice, Yvonne.
Right.
Just the thoughtification, everyone
having to post hot bikini pics and hot body pics.
Well, that, but also just the aestheticization of lifestyle.
It creates for a hyper- hyper competitive like posting style and physical being that I think sets a bar so high.
And not even just for the way you look,
but for like where you travel and what you do
and like what kind of boyfriend you want.
And it's all centered.
Where you can go, like yeah.
Yeah, but it's all centered around certain looks and aesthetics
that are proffered and invented mostly on Instagram.
Like I had to de-thoughtify my Instagram
by just liking every Chihuahua video I saw
because it was just, it was, yes, Jock.
And they make you feel bad
when you look at them for too long.
When you, at the beginning of that rant,
you said the estheticians of what?
Esthetics. It's fine.
It doesn't matter.
It's fine. It doesn't matter.
Is anyone else excited about certain elements
of project 2025?
I've been looking forward to project 2025 for a while now,
perhaps to an irrational degree,
considering I don't even live in the USA.
Why is this, you may ask?
Well, there are certain elements of the project
that promote anti-sexual rhetoric.
First, the project wants to ban contraception on the federal level, which would greatly discourage casual hookups.
You may think something like, then they'd just abort the resulting unborn child.
But thankfully, Project 2025 seeks to ban abortion as well, meaning that sexuals don't have an easy plan B.
This essentially means that heterosexual intercourse,
regardless of intent, would carry a much higher chance
of contraception, taking a lot of the fun out of it.
Oh my God, that is fucking evil.
I know, here's another great one.
They're so joker, they just wanna watch society burn.
That's from an account called nerd dork Cambrian.
I mean, it's funny because they'll never have any power in society, but it's like, good
God, they have a very vengeful streak to them.
They do have power kind of like that was like they're doing it right now. They're writing the coattails of
You know, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, there's a movement. Yeah
To bang their inner tubing in the wake of the boat driven by Trump. Yes
When all those red coats just go back to England. Mm-hmm. Here's a really good one
The burning and painful hatred Hatred and Fury in Me
is the title of this one.
And I, this one's a bit long,
but I'm gonna see if I can get through all of it.
It's how I start every email to Ben and Hessa.
The last sentence is very funny.
Hello, hello everyone.
So I must first say that I am in fact truly fascinated
with technological advancements of the 21st century,
artificial intelligence computers smartphones
Etc. It is all very very fascinating. But on the other hand, I don't really like the moral values of the modern world
I'm especially frustrated and angered when it comes to sex to make things clear
I am NOT against sex fully in all forms
But I am very strict on it to me
The only acceptable way of sex is heterosexual in marriage in missionary pose and for procreate
They always talk about missionary pose. They are obsessed with missionary
They're like I feel like none of them have had sex because they're like it must feel like shit to do
But also but also i'm like why haven't they adopted the acidic like having sex through a sheet like yeah
I think we know why I think we know why these people are ever adopted.
It alternatively.
The reason they kept reference to globalist for them a little too Bolshevik.
Alternatively, the reason they keep referencing missionary poses because they
had such bad one time sex that was only missionary that they were just disgusted,
that they thought that that was the only level of pleasure they were gonna get from that.
I think these people just got a taste
and got the wrong taste, you know?
Do you think this is how, do you think this is like
the right wing version of hyper identity?
Like, you know, like, because they do stress
it's not a sexual orientation, but the tone and like the tenor of this thread, it's like an ideology.
It's an ideology, but it does really remind me of a lot of like, um, discourse and debates that happen on like, you know, free forums.
Yes, exactly.
Or like, you know, I'm a map,
demiromantic, blah, blah, blah, like tender queer stuff. Yeah, Tumblr stuff. These people, I think,
really belong in the Tumblr hyperqueer spaces, but they can't because
it's too much of an admission of sexuality. Exactly, exactly. Here's
the ending of it.
But I'm also aware that I cannot change the path
the world is going into.
And that makes me feel powerless.
So I decided that I will move out of my country.
Can anyone guess what country this person lives in?
Argentina.
Okay, it's too sexual.
Keep in mind, this country is too sexual for this person. Brazil. So, well, I'm gonna imagine it's too sexual. Keep in mind this country is too sexual for this person.
Brazil. So, well, I'm gonna imagine it's probably a... Well, Brazil is one of the horriest places,
but I'm gonna imagine it's probably like somewhere in Scandinavia because I would think that
what's funny...
It's Germany or America.
I would think that what is funny about this is that they live in a completely sanitized society
So I've decided I will move out of my country, Serbia
Serbia is definitely more conservative than the Western world, but still not enough conservative for me
Wait, I'm not even Serbia has like a cross on their flag. I'm pretty sure
Is there something sexual about Serbia?
I don't know. Stay in that.
No, it's very right wing. It's very hot.
Interesting. That is so I've only I've only DJed a Serbian Balkan wedding.
I don't really know them outside of that context.
Genocide.
I'm a male 20 year old virgin by choice
and my biggest dream is to get married and find a family.
I believe sex shouldn't be recreative but reproductive.
Yet I still acknowledge that between two people,
the love and respect each other,
and yes, I put emphasis on that word,
it can be a decent way of bonding
and strengthening the trust of individuals
toward one another.
This is a post called sex is fine and it's one of the most controversial posts ever posted on this subreddit
That's so funny is is fine is yeah fine. It's fine
And there are 24
furious replies
They are all
Most of them are several paragraphs in length
I might be in the minority here are all set, most of them are several paragraphs in length.
I might be in the minority here, but I think the belief that sex and romantic love
can't be mutually exclusive is part of the problem.
I also think posting that love somehow makes sex more pure
is just another version of pro-sex propaganda.
It may be less degrading for both parties involved,
but that doesn't change the nature of it
There is nothing respectable or dignified about sexual smashing their genitals while panting and sweating like a couple of nasty pigs
What is this page it has a sexual undertone here's a really cool
a sexual undertone.
Here's a really cool reply.
In a huge argument, someone replied,
us women sexualize ourselves way too much.
I mean, that's who said that? Definitely, definitely not a man with a different account.
Pretending to be a woman.
For sure. For sure.
I do have to go get to a haircut, but Jock, any final thoughts on the...
Any final thoughts on the anti-sexual movement?
Yeah, I'm ready to fuck tonight.
I'm fucking... all this anti-sex talk got me bone hard, zagon.
You should infiltrate...
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