Seeking Derangements - SD 419 - Women's Laughter

Episode Date: July 13, 2025

It's Seeking Sunday! Ben here, today Jacques, Hesse and I open the show up to all of you! That's right, we're only talking about what you all have suggested, namely JoJo Siwa's new song, Caitlyn's as...sistant/girlfriends ATV death, Grok becoming a Nazi, and r/anti-sex, a reddit dedicated to Sex Haters.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Music Los chicos se aventuran Pasa y siéntate, tranquilízate Al fin ya estás aquí Wake up. Hello everyone. Welcome to Seeking Derangements. Wake your ass up. It's Ben. That was Jock and Hess is here, of course. If you're hearing this on the free feed, go subscribe to our Patreon.
Starting point is 00:00:55 We have bonus episodes there, video episodes. Jock will do a mix every now and then. Lots of bonus content on patreon.com slash Seeking Derangements. It's only $ dollars a month everyone so and if you had trouble understanding been just then because you don't speak lower China town over over five words per minute Yeah, what Ben was basically saying is that if you are a free listener We would love if you could take a moment to subscribe to our podcast on our patreon
Starting point is 00:01:22 Please it only costs $5 or you could be one of Jocky's angels. We literally just said that. I know. I'm joking. It's a joke. It's a joke. It was a joke. Hilarious joke. Today we have a few things planned. We're going to do a little special episode. This week we got a lot of requests from seekers all over the nation, more than usual, to talk about a few specific topics. So I was like, well, why don't we just do an entire episode where the listeners tell us what to talk about. And that's what we're going to do today. We
Starting point is 00:01:56 have a lot of, we've got a handful of comments asking us to review Jojo Siwa's new song. They people also want us to talk about Caitlyn Jenner's girlfriend slash assistant dying. And then shout out to the Shiba Mama out there. I'm blanking on her name, but I know I know, you know, Diva. I believe you're a woman. You tweet like a woman.
Starting point is 00:02:19 She told us that we should show Jock a handful of our slash anti-sex posts and they are really good so we're going to do that at the end of the episode. Also I wanted to say that we've gotten a lot of requests to address the architecture of Reconstruction Error America and I'm sorry but we cannot discuss that on the podcast. We're writing a book about that right now. Well, Hesse is writing a book about that and it just would be unfair to the Penguin House
Starting point is 00:02:50 publishers if she wasn't able to tell that story in the text. Yeah, Penguin House would be very mad with us. I was trying to think of a name for this episode format where we let the listeners take the wheel and I didn't come up with one I really liked. So I think maybe all three of us can come up with one on the spot and the listeners just to go with the concept y'all can pick. So sound off in the comments on which one you like. I, okay.
Starting point is 00:03:20 I wanted to do a play on the word submit because we're submitting to our listeners and our listeners are kind of doming us and we're the subs. The best thing I could come up with. Yeah. I, well, mine was listener dominations, which listener dominations. Yeah. Pretty good. It was user dominations, but then I realized it's not, they're not users. Well, they're using users for we're a drug. Yeah, we're using them
Starting point is 00:03:48 fund our lifestyles Mine is seeking submits. It's pretty boring jock. I kind of feel like you can work some magic on this Okay. Well my first two ideas for the name of this came kind of wrong incorrect first I thought girls, which really doesn't have anything to do with submit. Yeah, and then I thought friends, but that doesn't really. Just two TV shows that you were thinking of instead.
Starting point is 00:04:15 Yeah, honestly I've just been thinking about girls and friends a lot, but we don't have to go there. What really. Who are each of us from girls, Jock? We've had this conversation so many times. No, I am the Jenna. Oh yeah, we have, we have. You're Marnie.
Starting point is 00:04:28 I am not Marnie. Fuck you, bitch. I want to say, first of all, I messaged Ben and Hessa that I was going to come into this episode with a more positive attitude and be less combative. And I heard your concerns last episode and I will be less rude and intolerable.
Starting point is 00:04:49 And so we're really submitting to you all this episode. If Jock is promising to be nicer, that is a huge concession. And I just wanna confirm that I am against the death penalty and I was confused. And then we'll just leave that part of that. Okay, but but. I didn't hear the last episode because it was on the page.
Starting point is 00:05:12 He didn't just hearing. OK, well, maybe that'll make them want to subscribe. If you want to hear Jock's retracted statements on the death penalty, you'll have to subscribe to our Patreon. But Jock, what do you think? Do you do you have a name for what we could call this episode format? Think of one. Don't just say Seinfeld.
Starting point is 00:05:29 No, I just thought of one. You tell us, we talk them. That's good. I like that. You tell us, we talk them. You tell us, we talk them. I feel like that will unfortunately be the winner. Can we say it in unison?
Starting point is 00:05:44 Can we say it? Yeahison? Can we say it? Yeah. Okay. Ready? One, two, three. You tell us. We talk. Let's try it one more time just because I think like you always want to say things in
Starting point is 00:05:54 unison. It doesn't make sense. Okay. Ready? One, two, three. You tell us. We talk. All right.
Starting point is 00:06:02 I'm not saying anything in unison again ever. Put it out there. It's a boundary. Call that the enthusiasm of Gregorian monks. Yes. It's meditative. I can do a Gregorian chanting. I started right after you.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Also, just a second idea really quickly. The fans talk back. Fans talk back. Well, that could be a whole different segment. They're not really talking. I mean, that's just taking calls. Yeah. OK, wait, last, last, last, last chance.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Last chance. Succession two. I like that one. So we have some strong contenders in the running. Just comment. I'm kind of I'm kind of pulling for friends You're pulling for friends We just have a segment called friends and it's completely irrelevant to it. Hey white for friends Mm-hmm. I didn't know you were into that kind of like friends with benefits kind of thing
Starting point is 00:07:02 I thought you were more of like a chasing a relationship. I'll pull any friend off. I'll pull. I'll pull. Hey, everybody out there, if you're friends with Hesse and you need to be pulled off, just go ahead and give her a call. I'm Jimmy Tickles here and I am her pimp manager. So Jimmy Tickles is a crazy pimp. I want to really quickly just say a little pedophilic. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Jimmy Tickles is a character from Strangers with Candy who is gay, who goes, I'm just jazzed. He just confidence his catchphrase. I do remember him. But let's get to some of the listener submissions here. I want to start with Jojo Siwa's new song, Betty Davis Eyes. I feel like JoJo Siwa is going through the lesbian equivalent of Twink Death. I don't know if there's a name for that, but I think she's really becoming right wing. I don't know if she's right wing yet, but I would really love to see her on like Candice Owens or something. I think that would be really funny.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Is Chris Hughes particularly right wing or do we know anything about him before? I don't know anything about him. He's British, so I think he's probably just stupid. But this is Jojo Siwa's. I mean, you can't even call it a new song. It's just a cover. But I just want to play a clip of it for you guys. And she knows just what it takes to play a clip of it for you guys.
Starting point is 00:08:39 It's it's like very hard to listen to. It's really bad. I mean, it's challenging. It's challenging. It's challenging. Well, also it's a cover of it's a it's a cover of a song by Kim Karns, I think. I believe you're correct. It's a classic song made famous by Kim Karns. And it's a great song. She sounds like I don't even like the original that much. I'll be honest. She sounds like I do. If Bob Dylan. I love the original. She sounds like it. She sounds like if Bob Dylan got one of those holes in his throat from smoking too much and covered this song. It's like, it's so bad.
Starting point is 00:09:14 If there was a party where they could only play three songs that were similar, Betty Davis Eyes, Hungry Eyes by Patrick, whatever from the dance movie. Did you almost say Warburton? What is his fucking name? Please tell me his name. No, no, no, no, no, please. Hessell, you know his name. I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:09:36 The guy that died that was in, not Footloose, God, Dirty Dancing. Oh, Patrick Swayze. Patrick Swayze, Hungry Eyes, Betty Davis Eyes and Lady in Red are essentially three different songs that are the exact same. See, that's the beautiful DJ mind of Jacques working to make these connections. Exactly. That was wonderful. Second, really quickly, I had to Google what Betty Davis's eyes were like.
Starting point is 00:10:01 So she appeared in black and white films and most of her people believe that she had deep hazel dark brown eyes. Most people believe it's like a fact about her, right? No. Can you? Okay. Okay. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to get testy there. So in fact, it was she has deep blue eyes, very big, round eyes. Jojo Siwa has slits. She doesn't even have a big.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Oh, I know she does. I know. No, I just fear it. Her eyes are every lesbian. They got to they got theirs and they got their bitches. You know what I mean? I keep seeing these screenshots of people being like, she ruined Betty Davis' eyes. And then they use this screenshot of her where her eyes are like,
Starting point is 00:10:47 say she had small eyes. No. Well, also, but Betty Davis's eyes were like huge, like Betty Boop, like a power puff like Ben, like Ben Mora eyes. She just he was she's got more. Ben, I love you and I'm being peaceful today, but you have very average sized eyes. Don't try to make.
Starting point is 00:11:06 No, my eyes are average size, but they are striking. And yeah, it's the it's the vibrance of the blue. And the fact that you've got the what are they called? That Japanese thing that serial killers have where I do not have Sampaku eyes. No, I don't. Sampaku eyes are where you see white below the pupil. I don't have that. Yeah, you can see white when you're looking dead on. But I look straight ahead. I do not have sample Sampaku eyes. You have Sambuco eyes. My pupils reach the bottom of my eyelid and a little too long. Okay. Okay. Oh wait, let
Starting point is 00:11:41 me just say something really quickly too. Um, Ben Ben don't I don't want to unz in myself trying to be Zen jog here But stop trying to compare yourself to a dead so Betty Davis to Betty Davis. She suffered you you might have been yeah the one Well, I think all the eyes of a husky. I think anyone is allowed I think anyone's allowed to sing Betty Davis eyes cuz it's a song about a Third party, you know, it's not I've got Betty Davis. Well, I don't think karaoke is illegal in any country That's true. That's true. Karaoke is not illegal unless you sing my way in the Philippines. Yeah Right. Right. Do you know about that jock? No, I sung karaoke in rehab
Starting point is 00:12:25 okay, so in the Philippines, there's a, how would you call it? A taboo. A cultural taboo. Cultural taboo about singing. That has resulted in many murders, like actual deaths. I'm gonna turn on my camera actually. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:12:43 It's so easy to understand you when I could see your beautiful face beaming like a siren to let my ship to know Where to go? Okay, keep going ben. I'm sorry That's okay. Um, so whenever anyone may sing, uh the song my way by frank sinatra at karaoke oftentimes they get um Murdered attacked murdered With the street, excuse me Yeah, cuz it's something about the song my way It's very hard to sing. It's long it is like
Starting point is 00:13:13 And I don't know. Maybe it's something to do with the self-indulgence of the song, you know, you're like you're telling right I'm sorry, you're telling me that the Phillips kill people for singing the way Filipinos are called. Well, they're in the Philippines. There's a bunch of Phillips, I assumed. Am I incorrect? I've never been to Southeast Asia Island. They're Filipinos. Is it Southeast Asia? It is Southeast Asia. Yes. It's an island. I would love to go. I really want to go to the Philippines.
Starting point is 00:13:47 I think it's like a thousand islands or something. Literally. Do they have Jollibee there? Yes, they do. They invented it. You know they have it there. It's a Filipino restaurant. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:13:57 I thought Jollibee was just an American experience designed for Filipinos so they could feel home. Right. That would be nice. That would be nice. That would be nice. No, I believe they have it there as well. So yeah, I don't know. I do hate the new Jojo Siwa song.
Starting point is 00:14:11 No surprise there. I do have one thing to point out about the new Jojo Siwa song is that it's clearly AI generated from her voice. Like that's why it sounds like that. It's very clearly like they used a bad AI model. I don't know why she wouldn't just sing it Well, it's just auto-tuned auto-tuned to hell as well. I don't know if it is it has
Starting point is 00:14:33 It has that weird quality to it that like not necessarily like It's like a tinny-ness. It's like yeah, there's a tinniness to it for sure Yeah I did note this same kind of thing when I was hearing, um, yay. And vultures using the auto tune to sing as, I mean, the AI yay. It's using AI to sing as Ty Segall on an album that he recorded with Ty Segall. It's just it's a laziness kind of thing. I, you know, I don't I think AI is probably the worst thing to happen for musicians
Starting point is 00:15:13 because it's just going to leave people to be so lazy. You just click a button and randomly probably said that about like electronic music, about samplers, about I mean, it's true. It's true, though. It is being used to like in a date like Spotify and shit with like garbage yeah there's that new band that everyone believes is AI called the Velvet Sundown or something no no the Velvet Underground was actually real people no no no this is a this is a different band. They knew band that people believe is all AI But it's just kind of like Dusty 70s revival absolute crap that I'm like a lot of music already sounds like this. I don't know
Starting point is 00:15:57 I believe it though that it's AI Yeah I think I think another thing is that like When me and my friends were using AI to make like Homer Simpson sing burial songs It would do the same exact like gruff vocal like Husky noises that you're hearing in the Jojo Siwa sample, right? Um, she also looks bad her veneers are insane She's got some chompers
Starting point is 00:16:23 I mean that that video might be AI too, honestly. Like, I don't know. The Jojo bot? Yeah. Well, you would have to have giant veneers after you ate candy for 20 years straight pretending to be a Disney star. Right. She does seem like a huge candy head.
Starting point is 00:16:42 I absolutely believe that. But you guys think she eats. I'll tell you guys think she eats? I'll tell you exactly what she eats. Her assistant wakes her up by slightly opening her mouth every morning and pouring in a full Fun Dip stick. Putting her pussy right on top of that. No, I would never say that.
Starting point is 00:16:59 I feel like she's so chicken tenders and spaghetti and french fries and maybe. She's so chicken tenders and spaghetti and french fries and maybe she's so chicken tender maybe maybe like no green stuff like a Cobb salad maybe yeah Cobb salad or like the most ranch dressing like Caesar I feel like she's like give me a big steak I'm not like other girls I like a big juicy steak nice and rare rare. Yes. Yes. Actually, I changed my mind. She is the exact opposite of what you expect. She eats like an old person. She wakes up and has two boiled eggs, a half of a grapefruit,
Starting point is 00:17:34 no sugar on top, and a cup of black coffee. That's how I eat. That's not how JoJo eats. Yeah. She's absolutely chicken tenders down. I also do think that this is another step towards my theory of that. She's gonna become right-wing and she's gonna become like an anti-lgbt kind of
Starting point is 00:17:55 Or she's trying to just do like more of an Ethel Cain type Type of I you know interesting. I I don't know I mean the video itself she's dressed up like it's what the 30s like pearl necklace kind of frilly baby blue dress. It's very jarring to see her in that attire because yeah, she has such a like Futch lesbian vibe just in her face. It's very strange. I don't funny butch just in her face it's very strange I don't funny butch do you know do you really not know what fudge is I'm being dead serious there was someone the last name named fudge and laugh yeah no no which fudge is fable she's femme butch hardigan fudge nice to meet you I'm the town homeless exterminator go around
Starting point is 00:18:43 really I get it with this big loop. Hey, it's me, Hartigan Fush. I gotta get to the meat store around five a.m. and start making the boudin and the sausage or the cajuns get so mad when they line up at seven. I gotta go, I gotta be at the meat store. I miss boudin. I.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Do you think I could make a good boudin, John? No, don't even, like I respect you. I'm trying to keep a semblance of peace I'm trying to test your goodness between us But if you ever make Boudin, I'm going to have to commit a very violent crime against you Plus you couldn't even get the products if you're in Louisiana. It's just don't make it. Just don't bother I do agree with the only other the only other place that you can have it is in France or Canada and it's blood sausage. It's not real Buddha.
Starting point is 00:19:32 But by the way, by the way, everyone, listen up. Found the best Buddha in all of Lafayette. I think it's better than Best Stop. Best Buddha I've ever had in Louisiana, period. And it is from the Oil Center grocery store, Champons Market. I think they're putting green on. Is there really a town called Oil Center?
Starting point is 00:19:53 No, that is the, it's not a town. That's a business area in Lafayette. My dad used to have his OBGYN office in the oil center. I'm heading to the oil center get my pussy looked at. Then I'm going to Hartigan Futch. I'm getting my booed in. God I miss my dad's old business. Why were you allowed to sit in? I would sit in the waiting room sometimes and talk to random pregnant women and just hearing the stories.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Every dinner was my mom, my dad, and me sitting at a small round table and my mom worked at the office as like a secretary and I would just hear all of the stories, all the regurgitated things that happened that like, oh you wouldn't believe what happened to, like we had to get the speculum shot straight out, or da da da da, you know?
Starting point is 00:20:53 Like. Oh my God, this explains a lot. Or you know, like, and they would just, you know, they'd be like, oh. Yo, he took a speculum to the eyeball, cause that girl's been jobbed. I'm eating dinner. As this is going on, we're shoveling food into her
Starting point is 00:21:09 Nurse nurse give me the boot and nurse. I need some andouille sausage You know, I'm here and like god that was the stinkiest Bacterial vaginosis I had ever smelled my life. We had this but I didn't understand until later. I mean, you know. Until you, until you met a certain rocker-billy woman. Let me tell you, I kept, I kept, I kept hearing the words Papsmir multiple times. What even is that? I don't even know what a Papsmir is.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Let me explain because looking through my dad's VHS tapes, I found an instructional, I want to say it was like a military origin tape of how a pap smear is a black market. It was an unmarked VHS tape. I'm 13 years old, 14 years old watching. No, I had to have been younger. I was like a 10 or 11 years old. I found this pap smear instructional. I was like, oh, well, this can't be that bad
Starting point is 00:22:06 It is brutal. You got to like stick it up far and yeah, there's some spreading you like scrape the cervix and get like Cultures from it or something. Okay last sounds absolutely terrible last thing but uh, you know Henny if you need service cervix scrape, you know call give me a call Feels great you got to get some sharpening Henny, if you need service, your cervix scrape, give me a call because I'm doing it the old natural way. Feels great. You got to get some sharpened. You want your walls scratched? You want your walls painted a new color? It comes in cream pie white.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Okay. Yeah. The other thing that people wanted us to talk about here was Sophia Hutchins, Caitlyn Jenner's assistant slash friend slash girlfriend who is now dead at 29. I have the TMZ article here. I'll just read it to you guys. Caitlyn Jenner's longtime friend and manager Sophia Hutchins is dead following a tragic ATV accident near Caitlin's home
Starting point is 00:23:05 Sophia was pronounced dead Wednesday morning in Malibu according to law for law enforcement and family sources We're told Sophia was riding the ATV on the road where Caitlin lives when she struck the bumper of a moving car The impact forced the ATV over the shoulder sending it and Sophia plummeting 350 feet into a ravine. That's fucked up. That's a bad way to go, I feel like. Yeah. I mean, I didn't want to necessarily talk about it because it's, I mean, it's kind
Starting point is 00:23:34 of dark. I don't know. Who the hell is Sofia Hutchins? I don't really care. I'm not going to dunk on Caitlyn because her girlfriend's dead, but. I'll dunk on her because her girlfriend's dead. I won't dunk on her girlfriend who I've heard more tragic ATV accidents and this woman seemed like old enough that it was less tragic than it could be
Starting point is 00:23:52 my town has a famous like repeating charity for a child that was crushed or at ATV at seven years old and I'm sorry, like at least this woman was like what what, 30 or late 30s or early 40s? I'm not trying to- I guess that's true. She could have been a child. It's tragic that her life ended.
Starting point is 00:24:11 At least she's not a child. But I'm just saying, I'm not trying to be dark. I'm not trying to be provocative here. And I mean, were y'all friends with her? I was good friends with her. I was at her birthday last week. It seems like just last week. Hessa, I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:24:28 But do you think Caitlin was driving the car? I think is what is what everyone has to ask, you know Do you think she was zanned out driving out there to meet her girlfriend? I don't know. The thing is like getting hit by the bumper of a car is nuts to me It's like if she's on Caitlin's property, who's driving the truck that bumped her off of the legend of Ravine? That guy from Ferris. Hesse, what's the guy from Ferris Bueller's Day Off? Matthew Broderick. He did it again. He did it again. Well, Caitlin also has done vehicular manslaughter.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Well, I know, but I feel like, you know, she didn't want to get her hands dirty. Vehicular woman slaughter? Woman slaughter, sorry. Yeah, I feel like, I don't know. I've seen some speculation that people think she murdered her assistant, but I'm like, that seems a little heavy-handed.
Starting point is 00:25:23 What on earth does Caitlin Jenner's property look like? That obviously it's a big property, because you can drive around an ATV on the roads there to get places. I'm sure she has a sprawling mansion. Yeah, but that. A ranch house and so much shit. It's gotta be on a cliff or something,
Starting point is 00:25:41 because 350 feet is big. That's a big fall. I believe she's in Malibu, but I'm like, okay, if I was a rich person, I would never get on a exotic vehicle. They're constantly dying on jet skis and helicopters on ATVs. skis and helicopters on atvs it's like I do think the wealthy lifestyle is a threat I feel like if if you if you ran the numbers on like how many rich people die in sports utility vehicles or you know helicopters exotic
Starting point is 00:26:28 Automobiles of all sorts. It would be far and beyond the average person, of course, but it's like, I don't know, it's killing them. Yeah, private jets. And you know what? Whatever, let them die on it. It's not really, I don't really, I'm not gonna mourn that much, but I'm not getting on any of those now. They're scary.
Starting point is 00:26:41 Well, Ben, stay off of a golf cart because I feel like you kind of have a reputation with running dogs. Yeah, you are kind of bad at driving a golf cart. So dog, comic, try to come because he me in the golf cart. You know, I think that's exactly what Caitlyn Jenner said in defense in defense. Yeah, when in court when she committed women's slaughter. And by the way, if I was murdered, the judge is announcing, Ben Moore, you're gonna be charged with manslaughter
Starting point is 00:27:13 of Jacques Gonsain and then the bailiff runs up and whispers something in the judge's ear and the judge goes, excuse me, Ben Moore, you're gonna be charged with they slaughter in the first degree. They slaughter. Women's slaughter does sound so much worse. I feel like if it was called women's slaughter,
Starting point is 00:27:29 it'd be like 100% conviction rate. I mean, man's- Just because it sounds so bad. Man's slaughter sounds worse than murder too. Like, let's be- Absolutely. Let's be truthful. And also I love picturing like the press
Starting point is 00:27:41 outside of a courtroom after Jacques gets murdered and like one member of the press runs out and is like The judge is making an announcement is making an announcement and everyone goes inside and the judge is just like Ben Mora. You're being That's how the court works Yeah, I mean people were saying that It seems suspicious. I feel like if you're dying anywhere, if you're dying because of a car hit you anywhere within Caitlyn Jenner, anywhere within her area, it would feel suspicious.
Starting point is 00:28:15 But for the record, I do not think any funny business happens. Your Honor, I have a correction to make for the record. I know I declared my client guilty of this charge, but it's because I read it as woman's laughter and not woman's slaughter. All my client is guilty of is making women laugh. I've now reviewed the case because there's actually like four separate suspects
Starting point is 00:28:42 that are all the neighbors. Brandi Halle Berry, Matthew Broderick and. Ben Mora in a golf cart all live down the street. So I would say Matthew Broderick seems the most likely in that suspect lineup. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. What was the second one? You said, who's got Park? Halle Berry, an actor. Huh? Who's got Parkinson's as an actor? Huh? Who's the guy with Parkinson's?
Starting point is 00:29:08 It's the guy from... Michael J. Fox? Yeah, I always get him and Matthew Broderick confused. Same. And then I think to myself, I'm like, how could a guy commit vehicular manslaughter if he can't hold on to the wheel? Well, I think that's exactly how he would. Oh, I get it. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:29:27 In reality, I bet it was like a landscaper or something, like someone doing work on the property. Yeah, that makes sense. Oh my God, it was Kris Jenner. Oh my God, it was Kris Jenner. She finally, and you know how she got away with it? Because she was disguised as one of the other Kardashians because she just got a facelift.
Starting point is 00:29:47 She looks 30 years younger. She was disguised as a Mexican landscaper. She's like, I don't know how to drive this SUV. She just has two layers of spray tan. Right. Right. I mean, they do all look Mexican as hell. Yeah. I mean, they look everything look Mexican as hell. Yeah. I mean, they look everything.
Starting point is 00:30:06 Yeah, they are every race. You know what they are like? They're like that music video for Black and White by Michael Jackson, where the face is just changing into different genders and different races every two seconds. Do y'all know what I'm talking about? Yes. Yes. Great music video.
Starting point is 00:30:24 Wait, Jock, I actually just got a text. Maybe we can answer this live on air. A friend of the show says, does Jock have a good jambalaya recipe? No. I don't like jambalaya. I think it's trash. I like jambalaya.
Starting point is 00:30:38 It's really good. Gumbo is far and beyond superior. This is the thing. This is the thing. This is the thing. Out of all the dishes that you can eat in the world, the ones that are based with rice are typically just not that exciting. I like white rice.
Starting point is 00:30:52 Jumballai could be like pasta too, right? Well, I like curry. I've only seen it with rice. I like gumbo in rice, although I prefer gumbo without rice. I like gumbo with potato salad. Maybe I'm thinking of there's a's a specific like the only real jumble I've ever had was that and I don't even know if it was a real jumble. I am I got I'm already mad
Starting point is 00:31:12 I'm just keep going a restaurant an Italian kind of like our new American restaurant in Buffalo called the Hutchins. I'm sorry That's all right. That's called really good shut the fuck up. Let's risotto's That's called risotto. That's really good. Shut the fuck up. Risotto is not spaghetti. Risotto is different. Risotto is rice. Risotto is rice.
Starting point is 00:31:27 It's not exactly rice. It's not exactly. It's like a grain or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is closer to rice. Potato, tomato. But I don't fuck with Jambalaya, I'll be honest. I don't like it.
Starting point is 00:31:35 I think gumbo is far and beyond superior. You know what I don't fuck with? What? Chapel run. Done. Next one. Okay, period. You're right.
Starting point is 00:31:43 I'm going to go with the I don't like it. I think gumbo is far and beyond superior. So, you know what? What chapel run done? Okay Let's talk let's get to something I don't fuck with which is sex Wait, do you want to we got a should we talk about rock too? Oh, right. Grock is now Hitler Yeah, so Hitler Elon Musk AI bought the reply bot on Twitter named Grok recently came out as Hitler. So yeah, I have seen a lot of posts. It was the thread that I saw was it posted something about a doctor. Oh, well, no, there's that. But like the the genesis of uh grock's hitler
Starting point is 00:32:26 realization yeah because everyone everyone started egging it on after this one initial post which is like and that last name yeah there was some like a doctor something named steinberg i don't know and he was like well it's not really surprising he's a bad guy given that last name and everyone was like wait what do you mean and Was like well, I'm Hitler Well, you can call me I feel like I really fucked up y'all. I knew I shouldn't have taken that job at Grog Look y'all I am so sorry. I have not drank in about six years
Starting point is 00:33:02 I just got I found a bottle of Everclear I went for it I was at work unfortunately and I typed some things that I might have regretted it's okay we forgive you I do think it was Elon because there were all of those like posts about the Texas flood people were responding like at GROC at GROC is this I brought it up and y'all were surprised that I even knew what Grok was. Yes. But people were like, Grok is, is the, is the unexpected flooding in Texas due to Trump defunding and deregulating all of these like weather mapping systems? And Grok was like, yeah, probably.
Starting point is 00:33:42 And... was like, yeah, probably. And they even went as far as you could ask Grock and say who is responsible for these like tragedies. It's okay, honestly, it has been kind of hard. Someone should ask him about, someone should ask you about the ocean being drained because that's still on my mind. I had to ask my mom to stop talking about it in front of me.
Starting point is 00:34:02 The ocean being drained? No, the flooding stuff because she just kept sobbing and saying the saddest shit at me. And I was like, mom, like, this is bad. I can't talk about it. You gotta shut up. You gotta shut the fuck up. I can't.
Starting point is 00:34:16 Just shut it. I'm having a really hard time. Ah, my God. Yeah, I mean, it is tragic. But yeah, so then Grock started just becoming Hitler and all this stuff. I think Elon probably retooled its it's like a like character sliders and just yeah, he just turned racism up to a thousand. The literal racism dial is real.
Starting point is 00:34:42 I mean, I'm going to say first things first. I definitely think that he personally did it Second thing though is like there's just like a million people that probably could have got into that system and done it right Yeah, but I don't think I think it's probably just I mean he is a Nazi Yeah, it's not surprising. My mom is like for whatever reason like, you know My mom is like for whatever reason, like, you know, like you can't, she's really interested in Elon Musk. She read his autobiography after her husband read it and she's like, I mean, he's crazy, but he's pretty smart. Sorry, why are you making your mom sound like a gay guy? That's not what she sounds like at all. That's exactly what my mom sounds like. No, it is not.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Yes, it is. Hey, it's not. Yes, it is. It's like, hey, it's me. Hey, it's me, Shopps Mom. Last night, I read you on Muffin No More. Hey, it's me, Shopps Mom. I'm going to turn on the disco, and I'm going to make some Ramos gin fizz for you guys. Right. We love.
Starting point is 00:35:40 We only love. We love you. But yeah, it seems like, is Grok down now? Yeah, it only can do images now. When you asked that, Ben, I thought you meant like, you think he's upset now? Like, is he down? Yeah, he's down, he's down.
Starting point is 00:35:57 The real boiling point, though, was when it gave step-by-step instructions on how to break into Will Stancil's house and rape him. That is so, that is so, and that guy is suing, that guy is starting a lawsuit now because of that too. Fair enough, he's incredibly fucking annoying, but. Yeah, he's the worst, but. I'd start a lawsuit as well.
Starting point is 00:36:19 Yeah, it's like, we fund him like Peter Thiel funded Hulk Hogan against Gawker. Like. And also in Grok News, Grok has been dropped from all of the Marvel franchise movies as well as any Disney Plus content. That's so true. Okay, well, let's get to some anti-sex posts. For some reason, you're going to say let's get to some anti-Semitism. Oh also
Starting point is 00:36:50 The Linda Yakarino the head of Twitter resigned which is end of an era, you know Yakarino, what's wrong? Oh my god, did you know I do this woman is it would be like like people would be adding her like Hey a Nazi just sent DM to me my address and I got banned from twitter instead of him when I reported it like why is that and she would just ignore all those posts and post stuff like um x is a great place to find recipes try searching hashtag recipes in the search bar like I mean they're like really like stupid and revealing thing about this is that like, at the moment Elon took over Twitter, my entire feed and like, I'm sure everyone's entire feed was just like snuff videos, like people being killed and then like so many deeply racist
Starting point is 00:37:37 posts that I'm just like seeing all the time out of nowhere. And so many of them, I'm going to be honest, are anti-Indian. They fucking hate Indians. I don't know what is going on, why Indians are getting all of this hate, but it's just like vendors of like, like street food vendors in like Mumbai or whatever. And then there's just like some like stone statue head
Starting point is 00:38:01 Avi being like, this is why these people are subhuman monkeys. And I'm like, I don't know why this is why these people are subhuman monkeys and I'm like I've I don't know why this is a third of my feet. Yeah and I like them subhuman. The um. Y''s Morrissey? Morrissey. Oh, Morrissey? Morrissey. Morrissey. Morrissey? Oh, fuck. Morrissey.
Starting point is 00:38:29 Morrissey is crazy. The Smithes. The Smithes. Elite singer of The Smithes. But no, Hase, you've seen it too. It's like nuts. And I'm like, okay, no one fucking cares until it's anti-Semitic.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Not to be like, you know, they're the only people who control Twitter But I'm like, okay, this is no like it's a bit harder to like Shrug off because it's coming from grok itself. But sorry, go ahead has a I like a new thing I've been getting lately is snuff videos disguised as ads. We're like an ad that I eat that you get like We'll start with an Indian guy on a motorcycle getting hit by a truck and like killed and then it'll be like do you hate when this happens? Like try getting this new blender or something and I'm like what the fuck is this?
Starting point is 00:39:18 It's literally on the verge of just like seeing like a video of like a Chinese grandma like falling off a mountain and then it's just like have you played candy crush? Yeah, defend your castle and I'm like this is so fucking so bleak rotten. Look. Yeah It's what I have to say though. My Twitter feed never changed. It was still the same old same old stuff You know like before y'all Always like that for me. It was just disabled stuff that I, you know, like it was just like, you know, radio department, babies in a trash compactor, like Chevrolet cars,
Starting point is 00:39:52 like nothing weird. I think, yeah. One other thing really quickly. I never experienced any of this extreme media coming on my Twitter, but my Instagram algorithm has gotten so fucked up. I cannot. I get the AI racist videos are in.
Starting point is 00:40:12 Oh, my God. Yes. Yes. That's what I'm. Oh, go ahead. Go ahead. We'll just really. They keep making all of these videos themed around George Floyd as a droid.
Starting point is 00:40:27 And it is so... Yes, that's actually just one account. I'm familiar with that account and it is succeeding me racist. I have seen a lot of... And my problem is that I do watch them, but I've stopped because I don't want to see any more of them. There's this one AI account that is like specifically anti black woman and it's like DEI themed. So it's just like black women flying like planes and it's like
Starting point is 00:40:51 a black woman in a bonnet leaning out the front open window of a plane being like, I got somewhere to be. And she's like running people over on the tarmac and I'm like, okay, the way I would actually pay a premium to fly on that airline. Yeah, exactly. Oh, also that video, it says everyone in the world would want to be on that plane. Are you kidding me? That is that that A.I. series that Ben is referencing is a part of something called Altima Airlines and a lot of it centers. It's obviously racist, but it's like all about.
Starting point is 00:41:24 And as an as a Nissan Altima driver, I will say, fuck you people, because we are actually very competent drivers. We're just people. We're people too, and we have somewhere to get as well. So get out of my damn way. Yeah, the ones that hit me in the algorithm on Instagram are, it was so weird, cause I'm locked out of my Instagram right now if anyone
Starting point is 00:41:48 Listening is part of Instagram. Please dm me on twitter or send a message to yeah, um the show email write in at Write in what is your son? Just send it to just say your phone number out loud. Yeah, just say your phone number Hessa, why are you locked out? What does it say? I'm not it. I like I tried logging into my Instagram on my computer But I forgot I have a VPN on Oh, so you're like Yeah, and I entered the wrong password because I have like four passwords and one of them is the password for
Starting point is 00:42:22 For it just recover your account with your email. I did, I did. And then I logged back in. I'm logged in on my phone, but it won't show anything. It just says an error occurred and it's a blank screen. They probably just kind of took your account out. That happened with my old Twitter account, which I had like 60,000 followers on because my phone broke and I don't remember the email or the password I use
Starting point is 00:42:46 for that account because it was my like sixth burner account. So that's just gone. That's just gone forever. Hesha, I'm sorry. People can see my account still. I'm just like, if anyone listening has an in at Instagram, please. I'm just like, Hesha, I'm just so, it Let's back on it's back up. Okay. Well, that's good. Then I it's been like a month, dude Then I don't have to apologize for what I did Okay Look, I would do I won't be mad now because okay. I was just getting really jealous of the why does she get all of the attention? Mm-hmm. I just don't. Because I'm beautiful and hilarious.
Starting point is 00:43:27 You know what my least favorite thing, and this is everyone listen up for a second. I'll talk to anyone about anything. I love talking about the show, whatever. When you motherfuckers start talking to me and then being like, hey, why don't you ask Ben this? Hey, why don't you ask Hessa this? Hey, what's Hessa like?
Starting point is 00:43:44 Hey, what's Ben like? I'm like, why don't you ask Ben this? Hey, why don't you ask Hesse this? Hey, what's Hesse like? Hey, what's Ben like? I'm like, why don't y'all talk about me to me? I don't wanna talk about them to you. That's not how this is gonna work. And then Rachel Maddow's back here. Can you please give us a Rachel Maddow impression, Hesse? I don't remember what she sounds like. It's, she doesn't, she actually doesn't even,
Starting point is 00:44:03 she's not even that interesting. Donald Trump from has is it the news again for hit did you have you seen this have you heard about this very good Rachel Maddow impression I do want to get to the anti sex post before we have to wrap so has a my internet yeah I have a ton Ben do you want me to go through them yeah Jack if I could please just finish to this is really quick sentence okay Okay, what do you have to say? I think that Paula Dean and Nancy Grace should have a show together. That's part cooking part investigative crime. Okay, thank you Thank you so much. I appreciate that Yes, has if you could just read the post because my internet is shit. I do have one
Starting point is 00:44:42 I want to read that is an introductory kind of thesis for what this subreddit is about. This is r slash anti-sex. So this is a message they put at the top of the thread for I think lurkers and you know, podcasts who maybe should we get deep dive on their thread. So what is anti-sexualism? Anti-sexualism is an ideology that is opposed or hostile towards all forms of sexual desire
Starting point is 00:45:09 and all forms of sexual content. Despite the name, it cannot be considered an actual sexual orientation due to anti-sexuals being disgusted by sex rather than attracted akin to all sexualities except asexuality. Despite this, anti-sexualism is not an authoritarian or totalitarian ideology and is often vilified by society to do wrongful associations with religious puritanism and Eugenics well, I have a lot I have a ton of posts regarding that last
Starting point is 00:45:42 Be like I have a ton of literature on eugenics. Keep going. Just to wrap it up here, because this is of course a nine paragraph thing. Antisexuals believe that society has become over-sexualized and as such, they oppose sex trafficking, prostitution, sex work, and the porn industry due to all of them being responsible
Starting point is 00:46:01 for the suffering of women and being part of an over-sexualized society. They are critical of sex as a whole, believing that sex is akin to a drug that causes addiction and that people are willing to do horrible things in the name of sex. In addition, they view society as putting sex on a pedestal and that they have put unwanted pressure
Starting point is 00:46:18 on people to have sex. They believe that all sexual acts and desires are depraved and that all sexuals, sexuals is what they call people who have sex and that all sexual acts and desires are depraved and that all sex that all sexuals Sexuals is what they call people who have sex Yeah And that all sexuals are hypocrites due to them being very selective in what they consider quote-unquote normal sex and quote-unquote depraved sex Even though it consists of people using each each other for their own gratification Um and a very short dopamine rush. So that's basically it. It seems like It's it's basically what you think ben
Starting point is 00:46:48 Or it's like it's kind of like uh, um The consequences of industrial society by ted kaczynski. Yeah sex for sex for sex Which I do agree with I do think porn is around in people's brains. Um, and I think it's the widespread industry of it is rife with sexual abuse. I wouldn't go as far to, you know, make it an identity. And I certainly don't agree with a lot of what these people say. But I do think there is a kernel of truth. I think that an anti-sexual
Starting point is 00:47:21 who fell asleep and woke up in a strip club would a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a gay, a these posts, Jacques, I mean, let's... You gotta hit me with one because my immediate reaction is these prudes, if they only had a taste of the milk and the honey, they would never stop suckling. Okay. Here's one. Wait, hang on. I think maybe I should do this one first since it's kind of relevant.
Starting point is 00:48:08 R slash anti-sex. Absolutely should have castrated myself before I got the urges. I'm sick. I should have lopped off my genitals as soon as I had urges. Yeah, here are the replies. It's useless because then you're forced
Starting point is 00:48:23 to take a hormonal treatment for life and it doesn't remove your sexual frustration Then the OP posts what the fuck how are people supposed to get rid of the urges I mean I feel deeply bad for these people. I know it is very interesting to me to be like, okay the thesis is that society is sickened by over sexualization, which, again, I don't entirely agree with. But let's say that's the case. That whole healthy, the healthy, the healthy thing to do is not chop off your penis because that is actually sexually depraved. Yeah. Yeah, and here's here's another one from the threat Another reply I wish I wish I was mutilated when I was 12 and then there would be an excuse
Starting point is 00:49:13 Why people shouldn't bug me for being a virgin? like I think being mutilated is a Less desirable than people bugging you about being a virgin How do people know you're a virgin? First of all, you probably talk about it all the time. All these post and statements from the anti sex people sounds like the revelation of why the villain in the SVU episode is a sexual predator or like a murderer. They're like sex is so disgusting so I had to go kill a prostitute that's lit it sounds like that these people sound like I
Starting point is 00:49:50 mean Jack with her more just dead serious even just like a really quick serious note these people who are like this scared of sex are actual villains I think they're probably just trauma wise or something I think they're probably just traumatized or something. I think they're traumatized, but the sad thing is they are, I think, just as obsessed with sex as much as any of the perverts. Yeah. You know who was sexually traumatized? Leatherface from a Texas chainsaw massacre.
Starting point is 00:50:23 Here's someone else responded. Here's an extreme approach that you probably should not attempt. Me. What part of the brain is responsible for sexual urges and could removing that part also remove sexual urges? Chat GPT. The part of the brain primarily responsible for sexual urges is called the hypothalamus. Regarding the second part of your question, theoretically, if the hypothalamus or specific parts of it were removed or damaged, it could indeed impact sexual urges. Um, so, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:51 Asking Chadji- the Chadji BT reveal is so fucking depressing. Yeah, I feel like these are all children or something, like traumatized kids or something. Okay, are there any from not traumatized children? Yeah, here's a good one. Let's be honest, laws are the only thing that stops sexuals. Laws are the only thing that stops sexuals from publicly sexualizing everything. Such things as extreme bodily harm, kink, pedophilia, zoophilia, necrophilia aren't openly accepted because they are illegal.
Starting point is 00:51:20 But sexuals would totally accepted them if they were illegal. It's clearly visible with fictional CP. It's not illegal, so they are openly defending it. There is no morals that tell them when to stop. Sadly, only jail is the thing that makes them stop. Tell me a single legal thing that sexuals didn't sexualize because morals stopped them. Probably nothing. Wow. Chinese pornography?
Starting point is 00:51:46 What? I'm not gonna tell you what CP stands for. I know, I was trying to pull a trick. Almost gotcha. Good job. Thank you. What do you think, Jacques? What do I think?
Starting point is 00:51:59 Can you think of anything legal that it's not okay to be... That's like not okay? Gum? I think we should follow, well, I don't have anything to do with sexual, but in Singapore gum is illegal and the world should follow suit. Totally different thing that we're talking about here.
Starting point is 00:52:20 Okay, okay, okay, okay. Gum should be illegal. I think, if there's something that I think is sexual that should be illegal. No, I'm asking if you think there's anything legal that isn't sexualized, that it isn't okay to be into. I'm not even trying to make a joke but weed? Because it doesn't have to do with sex? This question is really breaking me.
Starting point is 00:52:51 Like, okay, like, riding a bike isn't sexual. How about fucking your car? If you're fucking your car, like in the tailpipe. I do think that's sexual. Yeah, it's not illegal, but I don't think people are doing it openly. You think you burn your penis? Being accepted. I think you'd probably turn the car off first.
Starting point is 00:53:14 You could though. What if there was a spider that had crawled into the exhaust pipe and you got bitten on your penile? That's a good point. I'm going to move on because this one's really confusing you. It's really hurting my, I've been pretty focused this whole time. Hello fellow comrades, anti-sexuals.
Starting point is 00:53:31 I wanted to ask you what you think about the possibility of your child being forced to go to sex education classes. What do you think? Honestly, if I was forced to go to sex education classes, it would be disgusting, but I am an end complete personality and I would simply resist going there. With all means possible, but my children?
Starting point is 00:53:53 This is a hit to my dignity on a whole another level. There is not a single alternative universe where I would let my child learn about disgusting sex, especially perversions and condoms, et cetera. Edit, yes, I know that the only possible way to have children is to have sex, but I'm not against sex totally, but I'm surely against any public promotion of sex,
Starting point is 00:54:17 condoms, sex education, any other poses except missionary. Sex for pleasure, oral sex, anal sex, etc, etc, etc. Only missionary pose for procreation in marriage is allowable for me. What do you think about that one, Jack? Well, I don't think they're meeting the community guidelines for this Reddit page if they're trying to advocate for a reason to have sex. I think that this user should be removed. And if they're trying to argue that, oh, it's OK to have sex. I think that this user should be removed and if they're trying
Starting point is 00:54:45 to argue that, oh, it's okay to have sex just when we need to have a baby, no it isn't because this is an anti-sexual form and we as the anti-sexualist are not going to allow these people try to come up with excuses for us to have sex. We've already made a commitment. We're not going to have sex and that is our lifestyle and we should not have to be forced to change our ways. If I was on that form. Okay, that's what you would say? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:11 So you're kind of agreeing with them, or are you playing devil's ad of kids? No, I'm disagreeing with them because this is an anti-sexual Reddit form where we discuss our commitment to being anti-sexualist in all ways. This doesn't mean that we are anti-sexualist except for one, 364.
Starting point is 00:55:29 No, we are anti-sexualist 365. We are not anti-sexualist 23-7. We are anti-sexualist 24-7, okay? And there is freedom in anti-sexualism because you have more time for video games and friendship and to eat more food. I can pursue being completely obese without any concern about me having to have sex
Starting point is 00:55:53 because I am an anti-sexual and I can just gain weight. And you know, I don't need to impress you people anymore because I'm an anti-sexual. That makes total sense to me. I mean, so a lot of these are very, here's a really good one. Yeah, yeah. Is performing oral sex on women bad?
Starting point is 00:56:09 I see posts here condemning oral sex when women are performing, but is it also dehumanizing when a woman is on the receiving end? And this has 53 comments, and is one of the most controversial posts ever posted on the subreddit. All sexual acts on here are considered negative
Starting point is 00:56:26 But I'd assume cunnilingus is less criticized because it's much more less commonly practiced as well as physically less invasive Okay That's interesting because it's just What that with that logic that's basically saying that like okay. Well since we don't use nukes that often It's not considered that bad Not only is it gross integrating but it can increase your risk of a chibi H He related or or opharyngeal cancer So fucking fun
Starting point is 00:57:01 You eat out a woman and you might go to the HB. They're actually like smoking a cigarette. Like your cancer rates are gonna skyrocket. Okay, here's a good exchange. Also, where does the same sex oral land on the moral spectrum? Because all the posts I saw were very heterocentric. And then we got a bit of a backpedal in the comments here.
Starting point is 00:57:24 Minorities, oh, there's a ton of comments I really am excited to see just starting with minorities is so insane Someone replied any sexual act between consenting adults is morally neutral and some and there's 12 replies to that The first the most popular is to you The most popular is to you. And that one is very upvoted. There's a ton, here's another one. Minorities aren't really a threat and most of the harm is done
Starting point is 00:57:55 and widely accepted by heteros. That's why a group that's still fighting for it right now to be accepted as equal doesn't get discussed often Okay, I'm that is such bullshit. Like if you're going if you're going to subscribe to this world view You have to hate gay men. I'm sorry. Yeah, like What like what is this like? Let's really give it because if you're going to be anti-sexual gay men are constantly reinventing new forms of sex, new ways to find sex.
Starting point is 00:58:29 They're constantly testing what is permissible. I'm not saying that in a bad way necessarily. I'm saying it in a bad way. I mean, I am kind of neutral to negative on that issue, which everyone who's listened to the show, I'm sure you're familiar with, you know, kind of neutral to negative on that issue, which, you know, everyone who's listened to the show, I'm sure you're familiar with, but I find it very ideologically consistent to be like, well, you know, a lot of the abuse
Starting point is 00:58:55 actually is more on heteros. And abuse in this context is, of course, I'm referencing having sex. It's, yeah, that's a glaring inconsistency. Well, also. Yeah, I feel like this is a bunch of people who were traumatized as children into being completely disgusted and repulsed by sex
Starting point is 00:59:16 and have now adopted as their worldview the idea that every single other person in the world is the exact same way and they're only having sex because they feel like they have to so they can't really conceive of someone doing it like consensually like yeah yeah here's just because someone consents in a broken hyper sexualized society doesn't magically cleanse an act of the broader harm it it reflects and perpetuates. Sex has an addictive primal pull that exploits vulnerability, confuses intimacy with domination, and often blurs emotional clarity.
Starting point is 01:00:01 As for the whole, sex can be enjoyable and loving. Say it again, I didn't catch it the first time an outsider said that. Oh, he's going, he's going off. Say no to the views here that don't affect you. Isn't going to magically make them go away. Love doesn't need sex to exist. Yeah. Basically blah, blah, blah. Okay. But they're also very anti-romantic. I saw a few posts. Wait, let me, I have one here. Wait, can I say one thing really quickly, please? Yes.
Starting point is 01:00:28 This, all these, half of these people on this page have the perspective of having a gay roommate that they saw got turned out too much on Grindr and Sniffies. These people are just frightened because they had a gay roommate that got too turned out. I feel like these people don't go into the world. I feel like these people don't have roommates.
Starting point is 01:00:46 They like are just at home. Also, really, really other quick thing. How do you consume any type of media that's not from the Hollywood channel? They've talked about that. They've literally been like, why can't I? Why do I have to watch so much G rated content? And even then there's romance. It's like they, and I get, I truly do understand
Starting point is 01:01:08 where they're coming from on a certain level. Because you're an anti-romantic? No, I'm a very romantic person. But I think that sex is a very powerful thing in the macro and in the micro. And in like the kind of stage of like hyper capitalism we exist and like sex is used and abused to sell products to just to do everything.
Starting point is 01:01:31 I mean, you sound like a youth pastor. You sound like a Christian youth pastor trying to explain why sex is evil. No, I don't think sex is evil, but I think sex when it is harnessed, you're disgusted. Really? Sorry. I'm not. I think if I when it is harnessed, you really... You're disgusted by sex. Sorry. I'm not. I think, if I could just finish my thought, I think that...
Starting point is 01:01:48 I'm sorry, he is... Okay, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. No, go ahead. Just, no, what do you have to say? I just had to say that you are disgusted by sex and that you're one of the secret posters on this page. I'm sorry, that was it. That's it, I promise, I'm done.
Starting point is 01:02:03 That's okay. Let's get to another post here. Wait, I think I also can relate to that feeling of there's too much sex in movies and TV shows because I had it once when I was five years old. Not sex, but romance, because every time a boy kissed a girl, I'd be like, ew, gross.
Starting point is 01:02:23 And apparently these people are emotionally stunted enough to be stuck in that kind of place in their development. So I feel like that has a lot to do with, a lot to do with stuff. Let me see. American romance has been stunted and distorted by the prevalence of the show, The Office. And all understandings of romance and love
Starting point is 01:02:48 has been ruined by shows like The Office. I can't even write that. I know why you're at it. I'm not even making a tiny bit of a joke. The prevalence of people thinking that they're gonna have these fairy tale romances that appear out of nowhere with their coworkers are ending in heartbreak and them
Starting point is 01:03:05 losing their job because they watched The Office for years and years on repeat, believing that that's some kind of possibility for them to have some kind of office romance that doesn't end in, you know? I like that. Are you Jim or are you Pam? No, for sure. It's just this idealizing of sex. Yeah, for sure. It's just this like, this like, ideally, idealizing of sex. Idealization.
Starting point is 01:03:28 Through the media you consume. But I do think, like, I genuinely do think one of the biggest issues like for gay men is the thoughtification of social media. Yeah. Like, not even on like body standard. One of the biggest issues for gay men is choice, Yvonne. Right. Just the thoughtification, everyone having to post hot bikini pics and hot body pics.
Starting point is 01:03:53 Well, that, but also just the aestheticization of lifestyle. It creates for a hyper- hyper competitive like posting style and physical being that I think sets a bar so high. And not even just for the way you look, but for like where you travel and what you do and like what kind of boyfriend you want. And it's all centered. Where you can go, like yeah. Yeah, but it's all centered around certain looks and aesthetics
Starting point is 01:04:25 that are proffered and invented mostly on Instagram. Like I had to de-thoughtify my Instagram by just liking every Chihuahua video I saw because it was just, it was, yes, Jock. And they make you feel bad when you look at them for too long. When you, at the beginning of that rant, you said the estheticians of what?
Starting point is 01:04:47 Esthetics. It's fine. It doesn't matter. It's fine. It doesn't matter. Is anyone else excited about certain elements of project 2025? I've been looking forward to project 2025 for a while now, perhaps to an irrational degree, considering I don't even live in the USA.
Starting point is 01:05:00 Why is this, you may ask? Well, there are certain elements of the project that promote anti-sexual rhetoric. First, the project wants to ban contraception on the federal level, which would greatly discourage casual hookups. You may think something like, then they'd just abort the resulting unborn child. But thankfully, Project 2025 seeks to ban abortion as well, meaning that sexuals don't have an easy plan B. This essentially means that heterosexual intercourse, regardless of intent, would carry a much higher chance
Starting point is 01:05:28 of contraception, taking a lot of the fun out of it. Oh my God, that is fucking evil. I know, here's another great one. They're so joker, they just wanna watch society burn. That's from an account called nerd dork Cambrian. I mean, it's funny because they'll never have any power in society, but it's like, good God, they have a very vengeful streak to them. They do have power kind of like that was like they're doing it right now. They're writing the coattails of
Starting point is 01:06:08 You know, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, there's a movement. Yeah To bang their inner tubing in the wake of the boat driven by Trump. Yes When all those red coats just go back to England. Mm-hmm. Here's a really good one The burning and painful hatred Hatred and Fury in Me is the title of this one. And I, this one's a bit long, but I'm gonna see if I can get through all of it. It's how I start every email to Ben and Hessa.
Starting point is 01:06:35 The last sentence is very funny. Hello, hello everyone. So I must first say that I am in fact truly fascinated with technological advancements of the 21st century, artificial intelligence computers smartphones Etc. It is all very very fascinating. But on the other hand, I don't really like the moral values of the modern world I'm especially frustrated and angered when it comes to sex to make things clear I am NOT against sex fully in all forms
Starting point is 01:06:58 But I am very strict on it to me The only acceptable way of sex is heterosexual in marriage in missionary pose and for procreate They always talk about missionary pose. They are obsessed with missionary They're like I feel like none of them have had sex because they're like it must feel like shit to do But also but also i'm like why haven't they adopted the acidic like having sex through a sheet like yeah I think we know why I think we know why these people are ever adopted. It alternatively. The reason they kept reference to globalist for them a little too Bolshevik.
Starting point is 01:07:32 Alternatively, the reason they keep referencing missionary poses because they had such bad one time sex that was only missionary that they were just disgusted, that they thought that that was the only level of pleasure they were gonna get from that. I think these people just got a taste and got the wrong taste, you know? Do you think this is how, do you think this is like the right wing version of hyper identity? Like, you know, like, because they do stress
Starting point is 01:08:03 it's not a sexual orientation, but the tone and like the tenor of this thread, it's like an ideology. It's an ideology, but it does really remind me of a lot of like, um, discourse and debates that happen on like, you know, free forums. Yes, exactly. Or like, you know, I'm a map, demiromantic, blah, blah, blah, like tender queer stuff. Yeah, Tumblr stuff. These people, I think, really belong in the Tumblr hyperqueer spaces, but they can't because it's too much of an admission of sexuality. Exactly, exactly. Here's the ending of it.
Starting point is 01:08:47 But I'm also aware that I cannot change the path the world is going into. And that makes me feel powerless. So I decided that I will move out of my country. Can anyone guess what country this person lives in? Argentina. Okay, it's too sexual. Keep in mind, this country is too sexual for this person. Brazil. So, well, I'm gonna imagine it's too sexual. Keep in mind this country is too sexual for this person.
Starting point is 01:09:05 Brazil. So, well, I'm gonna imagine it's probably a... Well, Brazil is one of the horriest places, but I'm gonna imagine it's probably like somewhere in Scandinavia because I would think that what's funny... It's Germany or America. I would think that what is funny about this is that they live in a completely sanitized society So I've decided I will move out of my country, Serbia Serbia is definitely more conservative than the Western world, but still not enough conservative for me Wait, I'm not even Serbia has like a cross on their flag. I'm pretty sure
Starting point is 01:09:44 Is there something sexual about Serbia? I don't know. Stay in that. No, it's very right wing. It's very hot. Interesting. That is so I've only I've only DJed a Serbian Balkan wedding. I don't really know them outside of that context. Genocide. I'm a male 20 year old virgin by choice and my biggest dream is to get married and find a family.
Starting point is 01:10:10 I believe sex shouldn't be recreative but reproductive. Yet I still acknowledge that between two people, the love and respect each other, and yes, I put emphasis on that word, it can be a decent way of bonding and strengthening the trust of individuals toward one another. This is a post called sex is fine and it's one of the most controversial posts ever posted on this subreddit
Starting point is 01:10:28 That's so funny is is fine is yeah fine. It's fine And there are 24 furious replies They are all Most of them are several paragraphs in length I might be in the minority here are all set, most of them are several paragraphs in length. I might be in the minority here, but I think the belief that sex and romantic love can't be mutually exclusive is part of the problem.
Starting point is 01:10:53 I also think posting that love somehow makes sex more pure is just another version of pro-sex propaganda. It may be less degrading for both parties involved, but that doesn't change the nature of it There is nothing respectable or dignified about sexual smashing their genitals while panting and sweating like a couple of nasty pigs What is this page it has a sexual undertone here's a really cool a sexual undertone. Here's a really cool reply.
Starting point is 01:11:27 In a huge argument, someone replied, us women sexualize ourselves way too much. I mean, that's who said that? Definitely, definitely not a man with a different account. Pretending to be a woman. For sure. For sure. I do have to go get to a haircut, but Jock, any final thoughts on the... Any final thoughts on the anti-sexual movement? Yeah, I'm ready to fuck tonight.
Starting point is 01:11:54 I'm fucking... all this anti-sex talk got me bone hard, zagon. You should infiltrate... By the way, Bone Hard Zagon by Girl Talk, talk incredible forgotten girl talk EP. Yes, Ben, please go No, it's great. Thank you for listening today. Everyone. This is a free episode So if you want to hear more seeking derangements go to seeking derangements or go to patreon.com slash seeking derangements. Bye Linda muchachita para ti solita morena yo tengo mi alma Mujer preferida dame el corazón que en esta canción te ofrezco mi vida I offer my life to you The light of my love baths you If you accompany me Oh, my little Morena
Starting point is 01:12:50 For you, my little Morena I have my soul I'm a man of my word Thank you.

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