Seeking Derangements - SD 436 - The Realest Alive

Episode Date: September 13, 2025

Hello Seekers! It's a special S-S-Seeking Saturday. Ben here, today I explain everything about Charlie Kirk to Jacques, who has almost zero idea who Charlie is, or why he was assassinated. I walk him through the unfolding situation starting with the day of, the immediate aftermath, to the capture of the alleged suspect. We discuss Trump potentially coming after Etsy witches, the fact Jezebel is still randomly operating (?), what the engraved bullets can tell us about the alleged assassin's politics and of course, we check in to what Bevvie had to say about it all. Plus Jacques does a freestyle in Charlie's memory.

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Is Charlie XX's assassination Charlie XX's assassination Yeah Right before Brat too she didn't deserve it um okay who it's sad to see this country succumb to such horrific violence against hyperpop charlie kirk is dead um and yeah i did i put a full i banished jock from finding out who charler kirk was or finding out much about the situation because i wanted to be the one to break the news to jock of course for the past i don't know today's friday i'm going to try to edit this

get this out tonight, Friday night, the 12th, because people did ask us to do an emergency episode, and I love meeting the Seekers' needs, and it's an emergency, but it might be out Saturday. Anyways, sorry, you might miss, Seeking Sunday might not be happening this week, but anyways, Charlie Kirk is dead.

Jock, what do you know about Charlie Kirk? Just in general, not about what happened, but just in general. I just heard he was a white supremacist. heard he was really pro-gun so it's really funny to hear that he got slain by the gun um i think like people people are like so quick to be like so emotional about someone that is so separated from their life so like again i have not been paying attention because i just don't care i don't know who this guy is i right you know if he isn't my friend if she isn't my friend

if they are my friend all the time I mean I'm sorry if one of your friends died and you know one time my boyfriend died like I've dealt with death my friends have died everyone's dead I mean just don't like

throw it in my face like this and then be and then if anyone disagrees you're like they're like oh my god you you want people to die and it's like no you don't want people to die you just like you're not sad for people

that are mean Like, a, you know, like a bully died one time, and the whole town was happy. Do you feel like that's what happened here? I mean, you know, if you talk a lot of shit, you're going to get hit. And it seems like he was talking that shit. I mean, like, he was really talking that shit. I mean, I will say I'm not, I'm not going to lament Charlie Kirk dying. Yeah, I don't care that Charlie Kirk is dead.

What did he ever say that was so cool that made people so endeared to him? him because he's a white supremacist is all right i just like how did he get people to get enjoy him because people are like just racist and republican and conservative right like it's not i didn't know if you had like a gift program or something you know that he enticed them no he would put himself under a banner that says prove me wrong and then he would end up debating various LGBTQ POC 19 year olds and make them look stupid. So he's just an edge lord rage baiting. He's an edge lord.

He does have like he did have, I should say, distinct far right politics that, you know, he was a terrible person. I don't care that he's dead. I mean, the video was shocking. He, so Charlie Kirk, word wear a bulletproof vest, all these events. because he's going to the colleges that are like kind of low security and he's just like on stage um and so he would wear a bulletproof vest but whoever shot him had enough clarity of aim enough skill to pop him right here and i heard it was a good veteran all of this blood

kept coming out of his neck and he was and i don't mean to say like dead on on impact look this is just a tale as old as time and i don't mean to say say I told you so but veterans sometimes well so there's good veterans maybe and there's bad ones and he's I mean I will I will I don't know I'm just saying to you now jock the shooter was not a veteran oh well I'm just scared of veterans and I hear what you know they usually yeah I mean a lot of them are completely psychopathic and you know I don't even for the record they did apprehend the shooter this morning and announced his arrest um I'm not super buying it i mean i can't really i'm not going to make any big claims because i don't know it's

still unfolding it seems like a government conspiracy to make people hate trans people right i mean it does seem like there could be something like that uh but charlie kirk was making some departure from the um hard and fast uh steady line of support for israel in the past week. Some people think it could be massad. I'm not going to pretend to know. I'm not like one of these JFK guys who like can tell you what a Patsy is and like I don't really care about conspiracies. I can tell you what a pastry is not a Patsy. Exactly. I do think conspiracies are like kind of stupid because at the end of the day it's like I'm not going to find out. If something is really that insane, I'm just not going to find it out and I would rather not spend my time toiling through

when putting the pieces together and like blah blah like i don't care i like want to have fun with my friends and stuff but i do think that this is all a little um fishy like two people had like i think one person in the crowd so immediately after this shooting happened some there was the guy who cheered but not that there was like a guy who like caused some scene either he had like a stroke or like said that he was a shooter then they arrested him and they let him go it was like this old guy and on that note I mean, immediately after the shooting happened, you saw this photo of this guy with what I call the cling ring, you know, just bald up here, older gentleman, boomer, kind of fat Larry David vibe. And I was like, okay, finally lib boomers have reached their limit because they do think under Trump two, liberal older boomers who are only getting older and only getting more disillusioned with liberalism, course a lot of them are still just like sucking off the MSNBCT but I do think a lot of them have

realized the limits of that even and I kind of think we're going to see boomers continue I know this wasn't a boom who shot him but I it's just to say I think we could see some really psychotic and shocking behavior I just didn't know older people were capable it wasn't an older person at the end of the day but it's just to say that was one of my thoughts when I saw that Larry David Asgai getting arrested. And then, okay, so I have a few things I want to show you just from the day. One of my favorite pieces of news that came out in the immediate aftermath of Charlie Kirk's assassination was something even more shocking than Charlie Kirk being killed.

And it's that the feminist online. newspaper, outlet, blog, Jezebel is still functioning. I thought Jezebel, Gawker's been close, Gawker's been run out of business twice, and somehow Jezebel is still functioning. Well, I mean, look, them is still a website, too.

I mean, things, things aren't where they should be. Yeah, but them wasn't, them wasn't there when, like, Jezebel Gawker era. Like, it was Gawker, and then Jezebel, and then, like, 10,000 other online gossip. Jezebel's like the more woke feminist version of... Jezebel is the feminist one. And so Jezebel, two days prior to Charlie Kirk being shot, published an article. The article has now since been changed, but the headline of the article was that we paid two witches to hex Charlie Kirk.

So that, of course, was... It was like a one-two punch. Jezebel is still operating, and they may have killed Charlie Kirk. The article is now down, but don't worry, I do have some excerpts from it. I thought it would be funny to read through it. Give it to me, baby. Now the only thing on the article, the old link to the article says, I cannot imagine the chaos and the Jezebel HQ,

whatever fucking wee work they're in must have been so fucking funny when this happened. But it reads, update to the Jezebel Charlie Kirk story, a note from our editor. On Monday, September 8th, we published the humorous piece titled, We Paid Some Etsy Witches to Curse Charlie Kirk. The piece was intended as a satire and made it obviously clear that we wish to no physical harm. We stand by every word. But in light of Wednesday's events and on the recommendation of our lawyers, we have removed the text. To be clear, this decision was driven by an abundance of caution for our staff and to avoid the piece being misused in a tent. and volatile environment, not by a change in our editorial judgment.

We may be published at a later date, but out of compassion for the victim's family, we want to make clear that we prioritize an end to violence over anyone wanting to read about Etsy witches. So they did take the article down. I don't blame them. I heard something about like some policy. It might even Trump was just saying like he was going to prosecute people to the fool. degree for well i will say right now i mean there's a lot of people talking about how this is going

to make things worse i will get to the which thing but on the i heard someone's going to make things worse yeah in reference to that someone was saying that our free speech is going to be impeded by this because first of all it already is it was going to happen anyways i have no patience for that this is going to make things worse crowd it's really kind of i i get it i get being afraid when something like this happens and um of course you know you might be afraid of how the trump of the right wing might react to this um i just kind of feel like you might be fucking blind because trump has already has his own like gestapo force he's invading cities with it they literally just like made it probable cause to be a mexican with a job

like things can't really be much worse also they're going to call any left wing organization a terrorist group and probably use that to do whatever the fuck they want to do with what organizations that they deem to be terroristic look at what they're doing with the definition of terrorism i mean they used to say black lives matters it's just to say this was going to happen with or without charlie kirk's assassinations don't pretend you're dealing with rational actors who only move in response to cultural events political events happening of course he's not the franz ferdinand of our generation it's not huge it is a huge thing it's not that this is nothing i'm not saying this is nothing this is a huge thing he is very close to trump he in many ways helped trump get elected this is a key player in trump's administration and in their media operation this is not nothing but you don't need to cry over this billed milk here and browbeat other people on the left

who might be not sad about Charlie Kirk for celebrating Charlie Kirk's death. It was going to happen anyways and the reason why any of this stuff is going to happen is currently happening is not because Charlie Kirk is killed. It might help a little bit, but at the end of the day, it really doesn't matter. On the witches thing,

if I were anything close to an Etsy witch right now I would be thinking about getting the hell out of the country because Trump is going to come for you bitches Trump is coming for you Etsy bitches and Jock say bye bye to your rockabilly girlfriends because they're going to be sent to El Salvador Jen was sending me these pictures of this red-haired older woman who hates

who hates her boy or ex-husband that transitioned into a woman. How did that make you feel? I was just like, do you think my taste is so low that I would accept this lowly woman? Like, I love women. Like, I need a woman. Like, women line up. Like, but this, not this woman.

Do you think Trump will come for the Etsy witches? I mean, it's hard to make me to care about anything, let alone. You just don't care about anything at all. I mean, look, look, look, I'm listening. beautiful females who run businesses selling needle point

wall art that says we are the daughters of the witches you couldn't burn I care about some witches I don't care about all witches that doesn't make me a bad person because some witches are bad and then

first they came first they came for the ESC witches first they came for the ESC witches then they came for the podcasters Then they came for the Cajun D-Js. Look, don't you try to reread that Nazi quote? I'm just saying.

I'm just saying. Look, I want to tell you something. If you are a woman out there who owns a poodle skirt, get out of the country. Get the fuck out of here. Statement cat eyeglasses. If you have a seafoam green air friar. Get the fuck out of the country.

If you have... Blue hair. Blue hair. run you should have you should have been out honey if you if you have dated a man that restores furniture from facebook marketplace and then you canceled him get out if you have a vintage neckerchief if you order fruity cocktails you're gay yes if you love the new tiki bar in your mid to small size fly over flyover city get out get out get out in the day You're not safe.

He's coming for you, divas. That's what they say in my family. They call male divas. Mivas. Anyways, this was the article, the since deleted article. I reached out to a third witch, Priestess Lillen, for clarification. She explained the differences in prices

aren't really about the better or faster magic, but rather the complexity of the spellwork. She told me in an Etsy message. Some workings are small, focused intentions with minimal tools while others are more intricate and involve rarer ingredients more time and sometimes even repeated castings to build up and direct the energy for our clients it continues here i wonder what ingredients she used to curse charlie a maga had submersion flames an iud and if enough people cursed a single person would the results be stronger when i asked her if she'd notice more political

figures being targeted these days, she said, yes, clients often turn to spells when they feel unheard or powerless in the unusual systems, or in the usual systems. Imagine it becomes both a personal release and a way of reclaiming control. Whether the target is a boss, an ex, a public figure, the underlying current is the same. People want to shift the energy in their lives and the world around them. So the Cajuns, the Cajun witches use a method of burying and on Dewey sausage in a pit of flaming coals and when the sausage is

fully burned, the ex-lover is scorned in the spell. Whoa. Crazy. So, don't fuck with me or I will burn it and dewey in the coal. Okay? Have you ever

curse someone before? Yes, the man that gave me Mercer my curse to. Fair enough. Fair enough. That motherfucker her I mean he had I guess so he was

he relapsed or something and he just comes out in the kitchen and with my ex-girlfriend and he's like oh yeah I was like what happened to the back of your head he's like oh yeah it's just like staff you know I got Mercer and it just comes back and then he was like I didn't say that

I'm like I she heard it he seemed like a complete maniac yeah we called him the wound because of the The way he looked, a bald, 48-year-old Disney gay that had saw the, the busy end of a meth-filled needle after working at Disney for 11 years, including four years on Disney on ice, three years on Sesame Street on ice, then working as a traveling radiologist or, what do you call that machine? Ultrasound technician is what it was. look here's how sad his

fucking life was he and his friend were living it up working for Disney as character actors he was playing Cheshire Cat and his best friend was the Mad Hatter and they had the time of their lives and they were just shooting meth

working for Disney acting high as fuck but just using it for their characters and they were having their best time and then the Mad Hatter died and my old roommate took an emotional shift as

one when your friend dies. And they had to recast him and he ended up playing Eeyore the Winnie the Pooh character. Can't really be doing that much meth as Eeyore. No, he started doing heroin after that. Oh, well,

at least he's committed to the job. I hope your spell works. But back to the article. The next day, the priestess sent me her proof of cast. He photographed in flames. The edges slowly curling inward. And engulfing Charlie's ridiculous scrunched-up little face. She whispered, I imagine, trust the unseen.

Do you think it worked? So, I mean, the timing is spooky, but I will say Jezebel has been publishing this exact article since 2016. Like, they were the first people to be like, we paid a bunch of witches to hex Trump. It is just so, the timing is so fucking funny to me because it's like this. flunky feminist rack has finally in some way caught their like white whale and it's they're like we've done it for them um but they're they're going to get exiled who do the jezebel company they'll probably be fine i don't i don't think you can really are they are they going to start arresting people for for or get who was saying i hope they get the maximum

punishment for disrespecting like Charlie Kirk or whatever. His name is Charlie Kirk, right? I mean, many people have been saying that, yes, his name is Charlie Kirk. Many people are mad at the

this, what they perceive as some kind of celebration of violence or this incident and somehow make, in some way making America a more singularly violent nation in some way. as if we haven't had a shooting again there was a school shooting that day and like let's not

pretend that america isn't like singularly violent and evil and like this is this is this is just stupid pearl clutching to me i i mean i lament the fact that america is a violent nation i don't like living in yeah we're not like violent this is not this is not well i mean whatever i don't charler kirk's dad i mean i'm not going to say you know certain things that i might really feel off the air but I'll say as much as I don't care it does not deserve me simply do not care if and maybe in some existential sense it disturbs me that we live in a country where stuff like this is normalized and does happen but I just saw it so many people quetching about how children had to see this violence about how horrible the video was and yes the video was horrible but if you

If you want to talk about the effects of American violence upon the American psyche, look at what's been happening since October 7th of what two years ago. We've just live streamed scene. Palestinian men, women, and children's bodies getting shredded in this genocide. Like that is something if you're concerned about this, you know, display of violence in America. Like look at what America's single-handedly resumed. respond responsible for i mean i just don't it just it really they're just doing it because they need something to say they don't care the fact about the fact people on the right yeah no it just

really care that charlie kirk is dead they just know they can use this for their own political ends and and people on the left celebrating this as well understand everyone understands this for what it is a political event in which certain things whether they be material or whether they be just things you could advocate for or fear you might have advocating for certain that is all on the table and so everyone is just trying to throw everything under this closing garage door possibility before everyone definitely just forgets about this to benefit their own side and let's just be honest that that's what we're all doing i just and the right the pearl clutching on the right about oh it's phil blah blah you guys don't fucking care you know trump wanted to call

charlie kirk a loser trump really he thinks dying is weak he thinks getting shot is weak, especially after he, Trump, got shot out and survived. He is like, oh, this fucking pussy, he doesn't care. And on that note, I want to just, like, jump ahead to Trump's reaction here. Well, I just want to say...

Yeah, go ahead. I just want to say it's like people want to stand up and act like they care about the singular death of someone that they didn't even know. Well, they mean... They care about his death because he means something to them. It's like you would be sad if

a celebrity died like you don't need to know you don't need to know someone to be sad about their death no but it just reeks of American privilege to be like oh my God one man was shot and it's so it's just unfathomable and then there's like let me explain it to you

this way he was someone's Charlie XX XX I oh okay that's fine I'm not even I'm just saying it's like privileged American people thinking like God one person that I admired died by gunshot and that's just so this that's so crazy and there's like literally just so

many places where everyone's getting blasted it is like gaza of course of course just on like a loss of human life charlie kirk is a massively successful and powerful and powerful political leader like there's no one's not successful and not alive evidently well i mean the the reason why he was killed is part of his success i mean i'm not going to charlie i'm not going to pretend that charlie kirk was no one he was incredibly successful and one of the funniest things is that like charlie kirk the reason why i mean we don't know the politics of the shooter yet there have been photos of him released he's a mormon 22 year old from utah he's a young white man so young that's so young to be a political assassin yeah i mean that's one

Men commit violence usually like their 20s, but... Let me tell you, I'm never going to be an assassin or a political assassin. I just don't have enough of political opinion or even understanding of what's going on in a basic sense. I don't... Yeah, I don't know if you could pull it off. I can barely make it to the bathroom. Right. But, I mean, people are now all in this race to define his politics.

It is 540 Eastern Standard on Friday. I don't really know what's come out. I mean, I know he, like, donated to Trump in 2020. My instinct guess is that he's, like, a Nick Fuentes Graper who, like, shot Charlie because he wasn't sufficiently right-wing enough. Is my thinking? I thought they said he wanted gay people to die. Who? I just saw someone posting saying, Charlie Kirk wanted gay people to die.

Yeah, Charlie Cook was extremely homophobic and racist and yeah. Yeah, I'm, yeah, I, sure. I just like, so that someone said it like, it was like his one life accomplishment was a solely. His life, his life goal was Christo nationalism. Like he wanted to be. You think his son will learn to disagree with his political belief? He just has a daughter. He just has a daughter.

you think his daughter's gonna grow up and be like i wish my father had different political views because then he wouldn't have got killed i don't know i'm not going to comment on his daughter um i have no idea um i don't mean to sound dark you made me think about him and i just now i'm i'm forced to try to think about it but i don't know i mean i don't really care about his personal life his personal life isn't the zero he's no charlie xx i mean to me he is no he is no he barely he is no he barely has the body to be a superstar. Right. He was tall.

How tall are we talking? Seven, five? Six five. Oh. I know. One thing I want to show you from immediately after the shooting. Have you seen the movie, Eddington, Jock?

No, no, no. I love Ari Aster. I think he's a good director, but his movies are too, Well, I wanted to show you this. This is a, this is a streamer. Oh, I think I saw this video. TikToker named Elder, Elder TikTok, who was there.

I want to just play this for you to get your reaction. It's your boy on TikTok. There was just a gunshot at Charlie Kirk. We're in Utah. There's a fire. This is not a joke. Hey, let's go. Hey, let's go.

Hey, let's go. How are, okay, let me pause it right? there yeah so you're you're just run with me here you're you've just you're in a crowd and you've just heard an active shooter and you are you're like let me get the tic-tok going right and he's like literally blocking people running i mean okay obviously that guy is just being his social media self but i'm like he's the shooter do you think elder tic-tok is the shooter well i'm just like why do you have to make a video of you leaving the scene? What it's just it's we don't know how he did it.

We just fully live in Eddington now. But is this what happens in Eddington? Yeah, we don't need to talk about why, but this, let's keep going. Oh, it's kind of frightening, man. There is a gunfire in Utah. Shots fire, shots fire here in Utah. He's really annoying. Charlie Corey, outer TikTok, Mormon Central, Utah.

There was a gun. Central Utah. Here at Charlie Kirk, I am not playing with y'all. Hey, make sure you go to church on Sunday. Read the book of Mormon. This is not a drill. I'm not playing with y'all. Hey, Jesus is Lord.

Jesus will protect you. Jesus is your savior, but I'm not even lying. Did they add music in the background? No. So this guy right after this went on to hop the barricade where Charlie was sitting and take some MAGA merch and some Charlie Kirk. um march which i imagine probably had blood on it to probably excel on ebay it it we this country is so fucking cooked like i just boiled i it's i i it's just the i can't i can barely even

conceive as to exactly how and why this video is so disturbing to me i just i mean one is okay well the screams in the background well that but people's first instinct here is to just get the phone out and start it's publicizing that they were there and shouting out Jesus it's just

it's so it's so simultaneously it's so simultaneously vacant and void of any humanity it's just it's just pure narcissism while also being like go to church Jesus will save you

and it's like I don't think Jesus has saved you honey it's it is just it is so fucked up we live in this country and this country needs to just completely implode when a public figure dies

or someone that everyone knows in the community everyone wants to talk about death and make a big which is fine that's fine but they want to make a big hollabaloo about something that ultimately has nothing to do with them unless you were there I don't get this

I don't get this it has nothing this Charlie Kirk means a lot to people. He's defined popular political discourse in this country. A challenge you to make him mean something to me. And I don't I don't care if it means anything to you. I'm just saying that

and it doesn't need to mean anything to you. I'm just saying the country we live in, political discourse has truly been shaped by this man. So it affects you whether or not you do care about it. I'm not encouraging to care about it. It's probably healthier to not. But

there is a real and valid reason why people care about this death. I mean, I probably care. I probably disagree with his ideals, but I'm not going to spend my time trying to fight the ideals of a dead man. What is that going to do me for?

I mean, he's already dead. Right, right, right, right. I'm not saying you need to sympathize with him. I'm just saying that it's, this will cause something. Right, I mean, I, I wouldn't send her a flower. I don't either. I don't.

You know. I wouldn't send many people flowers. I mean, not that many people are dying currently in my life. He wasn't in my life. I didn't know of him until basically last night. And then I, it was only a name. People are going to probably talk about this so annoyingly for years and years on. And I just wish.

Well, it's just, it's not a, things happen. like people are well within the rights to accurately assess them as things that could change their life or change the country they live in. I just wish it's something life-changing happened today more in the vein of like they released a new Nintendo console. Right. I wish we lived in. I wish Grand Theft Auto 6 maybe even though I'm scared

to leave Grand Thept Auto 5 behind. I wouldn't, I would have wished, you know, because I just don't, If people start assassinating other people, this could make it more difficult for me to go shop at the grocery store or, I don't know. That is, that is so, just insane to me. I'm just saying, if you really only care about your ability to go shopping, jock, come on.

Food. You're not, you're not that brain dead. I'm, oh, well, I actually, quite frankly, been, uh, I might be, I might be brain dead. look at my eye today i'm having trouble with my this eye you should try to care you should have i i can't believe i'm lecturing you but like civic responsibility is making me feel like such a lib but like you should maybe care a little bit about the world you live in or not honestly don't i don't i care about the world somewhat but i'm like i care about the people around me more than i can right right right right so one person's reaction i really wanted to hear from in the rosy o'Donnell of the

assassination was one miss horrifying house guest bevy for everyone out there bevy is a renowned transvestigator that we have covered on this show many times i have kind of tuned out of her content but i was like i know bevy's got some tea on charlie she's going to have one of the most insane takes right now she did say some shit not a headshot but a next shot why I do think Charlie would have had maybe a higher chance of survival if he had a more proportional face to head race. So are they insinuating that they shot him in the neck because they're trying to hide that it was a trans person? Yes. I'll just say yes. So Betty went on to say about Charlie Kurz.

She's like she's such a perverse demon. And it's like, people are like, okay, the discourse is going too far. Like, don't celebrate Charlie Kirk's death. And I'm like, to that, I'm like, okay, stop being a pussy. But then Bev's going after Charlie Kirk's wife. And I'm like, you have got to stop it, Bevy, you crazy bitch. It's neck o'clock. It's so great.

So she brought out her fame as the female neck, the male neck. Wait, is she calling Charlie? That's what I'm saying. No, she's going after his wife. No, no, Charlie and wife. It's neck o'clock. Her neck looks normal to me, I'll be honest. I don't really know what she's on about.

But then, of course, we see her amazing diagram about the female neck versus male deck. Okay, wait, I want to explain where I was, what? I read the caption, and I thought they were insinuating that he was purposely shot at the neck because they were trying to make a hole where the atom, Apple would be but it's not because he's a trans man right they're trying to trend they're trying to do gender affirming health care at the other end of a sniper scope no no on that on that though it is strange to me that this person the shooter who I will show you in just a second shock it is so strange to me that the shooter who was like he's gay yeah well no he's by but we

will get to that um it is very changed me at the shooter who's 22 i guess you know utah i did see a lot of photos of him with guns and like i'm not a marksman i can't pretend to know but i'm like this kid really like ripped through an artery from 250 feet away with a gun i mean like that's crazy to me i maybe he's that talented i don't know but nuts oh that's what oh you mean that's the shot he took yeah charlie kirk got shot like through his carotid artery like dead like oh that's like like like so let me let me ask you it was like such surgical precision that he was purposely aiming for that artery or whatever or he just got really lucky i don't know maybe he aimed for his head and then are you sure he wasn't a veteran because i swear that's where he got his

no he's 22 he's 22 and not can i say one really quick thing yeah i always want to post pictures of myself with guns and holding guns and stuff to Instagram, but I don't want people to get the wrong idea. Or to be frightened. I don't want people to be frightened of me with the gun. Because I'm not, you know, I just pose with them. I only shoot them at gun ranges. I think you're in your head about that. I don't think anyone's going to be worried. well i feel like my family if they if they see me post to instagram a picture of me holding a gun like this um which i think goes hard uh holding a you know like a glocks have my roommates old damn gun jock whatever who cares this okay so this is the shooter whoa he looks so skinny he's wearing converse

he's wearing chuck tailors and i mean just this room alone i mean everyone i i did start you know the interior motive show this looks like 90% of the submission's interior mode he has a really really big keyboard i mean it's it's huge it's massive he he's kind of a skinny mini um he's a skinny mini um also i want to comment go down to his shoes it seems like they're the flat kind of um converse which is the real crazy persons you know if you don't choose the well they also look they also look brand new he's not doing a lot of physical activity in that fucking let's be let's be let's be honest he looks at this guy he looks like he spends a lot of time the thing that is crazy about this to me is the bed

i'm like this is the tallest thinnest bed i've ever seen in my life you could like it's almost like bunk bed height yeah it's like halfway yeah i'd do something crazy too if i had to sleep on that thing and that fucking in that twin mattress towering twin mattress i want people who it's the third twin tower here y'all this is the third damn twin tower do you think the people that come forward about having had sex with him are going to i don't you think he's having sex strong oh okay well i mean you'd be surprised so i mean people have sex with me so you think this man is having sex again let me give you an example people have sex with me which can be surprising it's i mean same default you know it's not the same look it's not the same but jock just

by looking at him looking at his room what would you say he smells like hot dogs what would you say his politics are. Republico? Because I mean, that's what everyone is trying to figure out right now, because we're in this heated back and forth between left and right and, you know, people in the middle who are all trying to like, not really, no one wants to claim him right now. Some people on the left do, um,

but mostly people are trying to say, oh, he actually killed Charlie because Charlie wasn't sufficiently right wing enough and he's like some like Nick Fuentes in Selle Gryper who was like mad at Charlie for not being racist enough didn't the shells of the of the shooting have yes um anti or anti transphobic I don't know how you say that pro trans rhetoric on them I do have a clip of that to show you but just based off the room just based off the room it looks like he plays age of empires okay um just based off the room it looks like he does jerk off there every night be's really clean about it um if we're if we're just looking at the room it honestly looks like he might live a really sad life where he doesn't even

have a tv which i think is one of the worst things you can do to a bedroom okay um you know that curtain doesn't look like it's ever been up. No. His t-shirt is gay. I don't like that it looks tiny. He has very effeminate hands. He has a confirmed

bisexual. There's something about his teeth that I don't like his smile. He has teeth that kind of shot forward. But I think, I mean, if I had to put a bet on it right now,

I would say that this is a kind of extremely right-wing and extremely like politicized individual. He has extremely niche politics that probably run his life. And that is why he killed Charlie. But on the other thing you brought up, Jock, the slogans that were engraved into the bullets. I have a video here I want to show you that will bring that some light to. It's time that I finally had some light shit on my pathetic life. Right.

Yeah, okay. Here's the video of the slogans. You know how everyone kind of like canonized Luigi and Mannyongy after he did something similar to this? Do you think that this guy is going to get the same treatment? He's not sexy enough. He's not sexy enough. He's not sexy enough.

I mean, I'm sure that. Say he's not sexy enough again, one more time. He's not sexy enough. I liked it the way you said it the first time. You were like, he's not sexy enough, he's not sexy enough. But no, I don't think this guy will get the Luigi treatment. One, because Luigi kind of had, and again, it's so unfolding. I don't know what this man's politics are, but Luigi had a more fully formed sense of politics, although they were contradictory.

I think the more we learn about this man, the less like Luigi he will become not only in sex appeal, but also in political appeal, I do think. And look, maybe I'm wrong. I think just because of his upbringing, he's probably extremely right wing. It could also be a kid from a Mormon family who was raised in a conservative fashion who broke the mold and did something shocking. Okay, but he, he looks like a normal guy, you know, and they never looked that crazy. He doesn't, he looks like a little freak to me, I'll be honest. I mean, he just looks like a guy. He does just look like a guy, but like I.

I couldn't pick Charlie Kirk from a lineup. Well, Charlie Kirk also looked like a fucking freak, but let's get, let's get to this video here. Inscriptions on the three unfired casings read, hey fascist, exclamation. point catch exclamation point up arrow symbol right arrow and uh symbol and three down arrow symbols a second unfired casing red oh bella chow Bella chow Bella chow Bella chow and a third unfired casing red if you read this you are gay L M-A-O okay I mean what does that tell you about the shooter if that he's got a he's got a bit of a comedy side to him um i mean come on that was the best part of this entire story i mean i could i was i was

yawning i couldn't i couldn't i couldn't i was like god say something interesting for once and then in the last 10 years finally something interesting if you read this you are gay lmf ao okay now now we're cooking you know like there was another one that said um the other bullets read um yeah hey fascist catch bella chow if you read this you are gay notices bulge oh w oh what's this i have no idea what that is i've heard it's some kind of reference to like a furry community thing uwu i i think it's u w it's oh w no it's not it's not uu i know u it's o w no notices bulge oh w capitalized what's this i don't know what that means i I saw people being like, oh, this is like a furry meme.

I didn't know if it was a pro or anti-furry. And then the other bullet said T-Sys. Which? That is, the T-Sys one is maybe the craziest. I mean, really just like, like, the fuck-y-s. I'm like, the-fug-y-s is so. I know this person that probably did this isn't really, doesn't really care what's going to happen. But I love the idea that they're, like, planting.

the bullets they don't use and they're like here's a little Easter egg for the FBI to publicize about me if you read this you're gay it's very funny to make like an FBI reporter or something say if you're reading this you're gay but I do think that like

I don't know I mean it does seem a little meme lordy what's his name wait do we have his name his name is Taylor Taylor Robinson Tyler Tyler Tyler Robinson is his name You know, Tyler's, I mean, are the kind of people. Every Tyler that I've ever known, I mean, they're as fickle as the wind.

You don't know where they stand. Tyler's could be really dangerous people. You want to keep them about Michaels, too. Taylor's, not Taylor's. I like Michaels. I like Michaels. Michaels. You want to keep also, you got to be careful.

There's a lot of women named Sarah that you should. be careful of um i could make a list of name we can do this another net episode but i'll give a list of names of people you should be suspicious of okay a warning yeah i mean tyler not i not one of my favorite names i'll say that much on it but would you sleep with someone named tyler what do you think what do you think about um the engravements on the bullets i mean i just think it's like wow he was really wanted to personalize his gun um i'm thinking you think do you think that means anything about his politics what do you think about hey fascist um i mean i have to assume that he's more liberal or something or um he's probably going to get called dirtbag left

um i don't think people are really throwing that term around anymore they don't use that anymore dime square those are kind of two different things i know but they think they think say that still? I mean, yeah. I wish they would bring back swag. That was a really cool. Right, bring back swag. I also, I mean, that's kind of what people are doing.

People are absolutely bringing back, like, swag. Do you think that, do you think that that Bram C.K. will make a tribute to Charlie Kirk in a fashion line? What is that brand called? C.K. Calvin Klein. I'm just going to let you put it together Yes, Calvin Klein might do a commemorative Charlie Kirk drop

That would be a beautiful, beautiful way to remember Charlie It was Calvin Klein X Charlie Kirk So CK X CK I do think that it could have been some kind of like Super right wing guy who was like a meme lord And like on Reddit and like A Griper Who was being funny with his bullets

And also thought it would be would stoke animosity towards the left to write hey fascist on his bullet. I don't see that as something that's in Hebrew it for me. I just don't know what he is. He could have been, I mean,

he's probably a sci-off. It could also be a sci-op. It could also be a sirep. People are saying, I mean, Charlie was making distance from the hard and fast Israel support. And look, it could have been. I don't know.

going to pretend to know i can just wildly speculate i hope we are never getting shot at again i mean that's the real thing if they start coming for podcasters i can't get i can't have people shoot at me because i only i only miss so many bullets that they're not going to let me miss anymore

you'll be fine i don't think anyone do you always came what type of person do you think would assassinate you one of my enemies one of my ops one of my detractors one of my personal enemy not not not a listener of the show not so much no oh well okay you know they killed john lennon yeah so who do you who do you think would kill you if you're john lennon i don't think i'm john lennon

but if i was popular enough right selina's manager killed her i don't think my manager's gonna kill me but, you know, the person that killed Selena was allegedly a fan of hers beforehand. She was obsessed with Selena. Something, Saldivar. The guy that tried to kill Bior. Yelena Sal Dever shot Selena. She was just like a manager and like super fan

and probably like had some weird lesbian crush on Selena. Or when I lived in. You wanted to like be Selena or something. I don't know. When I lived in Corpus Christi, Texas, you could go to the hotel that she was shot in. And you can pay $500 to stay there at night in the room that she was last slept in. I really, I mean, I am, if I could go back and stop that bullet, I would.

I love Selena. If I could turn out back time. Taken away from us. What else did I want to show you? I've seen the Jennifer Lopez movie about Selena, and I've listened to Biddy, Biddy, bum bum but I don't really know her and one time

15 years ago my sister dressed up as Selena and I told her a racist 15 years ago I'm sure you did although the much more cancable thing was a white Cajun guy dressed up as Urkel

in blackface would be pretty rough Yeah, so Trump did make an initial response to this. Of course, this is right after people were, what, a week ago, two weeks ago, wildly speculating that Trump was dead. He's looked okay since, but I don't know why they release this AI statement if it wasn't because Trump is like dying. This to me, I mean, again, I can't pretend to know AI from anything else that much, I guess,

but this looks so AI to me. Jock, I want to play it for you. Do they have a clone of him, you think? No, they can't clone him. But just look at his face and just the quality of the video and everything. It looks so AI to me. To my great fellow Americans, I am filled with grief and anger at the heinous assassination of Charlie Kirk on a college campus in Utah. Charlie inspired millions in tonight.

All who knew him and loved him are united in shock and horror. Charlie was a patriot. What do you think? I recognize this. It's not even AI. It's just the same special effects they use for season two, Livia Soprano. When she's dead and they just- C-G-I.

Yeah, they did. You know, you know, when- Yes, I do. Yes, yes. When Livia Soprano dies in the Sopranos, they use a jumbled-up, a jumbled-up, cut-up version of other previous sentences, she said. And it's so painful. it's like one of the most terrible i would say it doesn't look as bad as it doesn't look as bad as this this to me

distinctly looks very a i just his head is like moving weird his neck and body stands completely still right head moves back and forth like a reptile a lizard right right i think it's a i and then okay like um yesterday on 9-11 um trump was at the 9-11 memorial and they because of course he has to go to this and he has to like be there in person um Trump was at the 9-11 memorial and like half of his face was just completely it looked like he had like a stroke but then I saw a video of him talking after and that sagging wasn't there but I'm like I thought I had a stroke look at my eyes today they're going in different direction you don't look like he had a stroke but I don't know i don't know what's going on with trump he does look he looked very bad at the my boy memorial he looked absolutely terrible but who knows i mean you know just it shows you that work if you work too much you might have a stroke right so i mean any do you have any closing

thoughts on charlie kirk or what this means or or any any any takeaway from me this event i am still failing to feel any any care about it it's not not it's not a big blaze it's not calmeda olives it's not an edgy cook's new album um which i just got um but no you know it's i will not think about him unless someone talks to me about him ever again after this i will probably people are asked where were you when it happened and i'll say i don't know probably i i don't remember i won't remember um but i'm not trying to say that i'm not i don't care about this episode or the podcast i just

no i'm not saying that the charlie guy i'm just curious what your what your thoughts are i just don't i wish i it seems like you just don't care which is fine you don't have to care I mean, I'm just like, I see everyone getting in so up in arms about it. It just makes me so unattractive for anyone to complain. What do you think about the rumblings of the incoming civil war because

of this? Do you really, that's really something that people are talking about? Are you just trying to scare me? No, many people are talking about this being a precipitous event in polarized tit-for-tat violence. I don't like that. I don't, I don't want

to see, now you're making me care about it which I hate you for doing that I'm trying to explain to you that the massive the reason people care about massive things like this because there is the potential for massive ripple effects and changing the you know

the possibilities of politics in America I don't think this will result in a civil war I don't I don't really know what a civil war even looks like in America it's not like you're fighting it's not like there's two unified fronts that are based in geographic locations

that have like an advancing warline i don't really i do think it's probably just going to like i could see this inspiring tit-for-tat high-profile assassinations of leaders on the right or left maybe i don't know um again i don't mean to sound so fatalistic about it but this this just i don't think these are like singular events that are completely detached from each other that just happened for unlocalized reasons like there is we're living through the civil war currently in some way and i just don't i thought this civil war already happened but like we're living through like an extremely polarized and violent time in the united states and i mean i'm being a little facetious when i say we're living through a civil war

war but i just i think the i think that people want their i don't think people want a civil war to happen but i think people want the release of there being some kind of tangible universally understood point of conflict because right now it's kind of like things like this happened like the luigi assassination or trump deporting like america American sentence to El Salvador or whatever might be happening there. That's fucked up. People want, but Trump is going to call left wing organizations

terrorist groups because of this. Whether or not that guy is a leftist. Trump's already probably making moves to designate certain left wing organization. This is why I would think it's... Maybe he already has. This is why I would think it's a sci-op because it just seems like even if this guy was a false.

right person which i find harder to believe they're going to they're going to politicize his entire existence and it maybe they made up that the bullet shells said that just to associate him with the left like i mean but again i mean i'm still i think that's completely possible the only reason i'm like i don't really believe that is like i just don't think that they need a reason to do they didn't need they don't really need political flashy high profile events like this to do what they've already done, which is invading cities, rounding up people, again, making it probable cause of a crime to be like a Mexican with a job. Like all these things he's done without any high profile political assassinations or

high profile political events. So I just don't, I don't, I don't know, we'll see what happens. but I don't think this will result in this Civil War, Jock, so don't worry. Yeah, you gave me an awful fright before I go to the Art Museum. What would that even look like, Jock? What would that Civil War look like to you? It seems like it would interrupt me going to the grocery store. It seems like, you know, I know that you don't care about food at the same level as me.

No, I just, it's such a personalized individual, consumptive reaction that I'll be honest I am a little put off by but that's fine it's your life I'm not judging you no no let's really break that down for a second for the last segment of this podcast

so you're gonna shame me for being more food sin no you're you are because you're telling me that you're put off by the fact that I want food in a situation in a dark situation where my my my my life and the society's in danger look you you freaking who said your life was in danger

i'd just say well if there's a civil war i'm not evil or in ingrate or i'm not i'm not i'm not dumb for not wanting to be involved in something that i cannot there's nothing that my public opinion i'm not look i have no i have nothing to nothing to i have no tool i always feel like you're trying to guilt me into into into not trying to kill you posting something on my social media and i'm just like what posting what on your social media is a bet to talk about this and i you know you oh my god i don't i'm not i'm not tired i'm gonna have a little hot sauce on the air watch this you see this i do okay pour a little out for charlie pour a little out for charlie say this is for charlie

I love rock and roll baby Let's see how tired I was Look at me now I feel like my eye finally corrected Look at me now I'm getting in paper You look gorgeous Someone should make a rap about Charlie Kirk

And it should be like They should be like Charlie Kirk Triciotomy Can you do you do you want to can we end on a freestyle for charlie do you want me to pull up a beat uh no no just hold on hold on we're going to do a pause right here really quick i'm going to pull up a beat for you get ready look up realist alive by um clams casino

yes is a clans casino rapper beat maybe do another hot sauce packet really wake that really i don't have another that was the only one oh something no like a substance i don't have it in the right mind frame for this shit job i'll do a little powder there we go give it diva yosomava all right are you ready let's go this is for charlie What is this song you chose? Okay. Is that you?

Charlie Kirk. You're a jerk. You got an unscheduled tracheotomy. I don't care about your anatomy because I don't know you. That means I don't care about you. If I don't know you, I don't have to care about you. And it doesn't make me a bad person. I want to get family guy and food and love my ass crap.

I love Sinky Doreen. I don't care about my car. He's not my business. He's dead. That's not my business. Charlie, you are dead. And that's not my fault. because I didn't know you till yesterday.

You are nothing! You have a hole in your throat and that made you dead. Sorry! Not sorry. It's not my fault anyway. You can't even talk to me about it. This is the last time I'll ever probably talk about Charlie Kirk. You're a jerk for wasting my time and taking up the news. I wish I heard about Doubt and Abby the finale.

Wow. I don't care about Charlie Kirk, Kirk, Kirk, Kirk ever again. Charlie, Kirk, Kirk, Kirk, Kirk. I hate him. All right. Okay, you know what, honestly?

The most offensive thing Charlie Kirk ever did was take up my time and make me yawn and make me bored. I'm glad that this will probably be the last time I ever have to hear about this mother Tucker. and well we'll probably be talking about him again on the show i mean to my dis misfortune but maybe next time you can just you can just be silent i'll you don't want to talk about charlie i i'll monologue about charlie for 40 minutes and hessel will want to talk about him i'm sure when she's back we'll talk about him again but wouldn't it look really good if i had family

guy in the in the font above my ass crack like a like a tramp stand that said family guy What do you think I'm going to say? I just wish you would love me and approve me in the way that I want to. I respect your... Do you seem more concerned about Charlie Kirk than our friendship? I'm not falling for this BPD. Doesn't work on me, Diva. Doesn't work on me.

I'm just kidding. I'm impenetrable to BPD antics. But I think if you want to get a whatever, it's your body, I don't care. Would you get an eyebrow piercing ever? Why not? You think it would be ugly on me? Are you asking me if I would get an eyebrow piercing or if you should get one? You think my septif, if I had a septum piercing, it would look ugly?

Don't get a septum. What would you, who would you take out and what would you write on the bullet? I would, just a joke. wouldn't do that okay let's say if you had to write something on a bullet what would you write on the bullet this is forgiving me

Mercer I'm not going to commit violence fair enough no fair enough don't don't say his name you fucking maniac that's what you give for giving me mercy people have to

know the truth. I called the help department and I said, well, I'm bleeping his name out. It's not making it. I'm not good. Thank you for listening, everyone. Bye, bye, bye.

Good night. Sweet dreams, you little faggates. Stand up and give us a twirl. Let's get a pull out of the twirl. I can't twirl. It's hard for me to. Just take your headphones off and give us a twirl. Come on, divo.

I'm just wearing shorts. Spin it. Spin it around. Oh, what is this? stayed on the butt. It's paint shorts. I knew you were going to judge me. God, man, you're such a bitch. I love your outfit. I think you look beautiful. Look, check this out.

Wait, can I show you the dance that I do to my roommate all the time to make them uncomfortable? We'll end on that. Yeah, please. I'm always like, Doesn't that make you laugh? It's a very funny game. Here, let me do it one more time. funny when I take the show.

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