Seeking Derangements - SD 438 - Movie Jacque-Set: Predator with Max
Episode Date: September 21, 2025It's Seeking Sunday! Hesse, Jacques and Max review the 1990 action/sci-fi film Predator 2! Listen to Max's show The Drain...
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Thank you.
Uh, no.
No.
You got to go.
Some people have taxes on the brain.
Others have politics on the brain, but we've have movie on our minds.
That's right.
This is Jacques movie mindset.
To remind Shack's that, please don't infringe on our copyright, me and Will.
Um, hi, I'm Will Minnaker, and this is Chapo Trapa.
No, I'm just kidding.
Um, hey, everyone.
This is Jacques Gonsolin.
We're here with Max.
Hey.
My favorite guy.
And then my favorite gal,
Hesedini.
I want to share my address, too,
just so the audience knows.
I think that's very important.
You'll mute out your last name,
or Max.
Oh, my God.
I'm sorry.
I was just being formal.
I'm just impressed you.
You've pronounced it so well.
It's usually, like, a huge sticking point for white people.
Well, no, it's, you know, that old saying, like,
no thine enemies.
You know, no.
how to pronounce your enemy's name
so you can trash talk them efficiently
but I love you
thank you thank you
you look too good
why don't you
why don't you explain what
what movie what the hell are we doing here
today well
don't think anything that you
remember about the movie predator
don't even think about Predator at all
because what you know about Predator
to throw it out the window because we're about to dive
into the 1990 film
Predators
Or Pretter
Oof
Already took
It's a great movie
Danny Glover
Gary Busey
Bill Paxton
Maria Conchita
Kevin Spacey
as the predator
Kevin Spacey is
Harvey Weinstein produced
Yes
It's a biopic of Harvey Weinstein
Actually not produced by Harvey Weinstein
I have to
I have to
I did my homework on this
This is a non-Preditor
Was Kevin Spacey really in it?
No
Yeah, he was wearing a lot of prosthetics.
He was invisible for a lot of it by Kevin's face.
He's invisible for a lot of it.
But he shows up.
It was a crazy movie.
I remember it being very crazy, but it far blew my expectations out of the water.
And when we're ready for it, I have some very interesting facts to bring up.
So save a good five minutes.
Can I have a semi-interesting fact about this?
Jock, you mentioned, to throw.
everything you know about predator out the window
I don't know anything about predator
this is my first predator
franchise experience
Wow Max what did you think
I thought it was fucking awesome
I thought I for a long ass time I thought this was
John Wu because it has all the
Who Hall hallmarks
except not quite as good
I was like was the cocaine not that good that year
but this was not a John Mood joint
You'd have to be addicted to cock
and be a total pussy to be
denying that this is
a solid incredible action guilty guilty yes so this this movie is the predator goes from the jungle
in the first movie the predators in the jungle of course of south america being hunted by a crack
team of commandos in nicaragua led by screenwriter shame black yes who is inexplicably in predator
as the first guy who gets killed.
But this one, the predator goes to the concrete jungle,
if you know what I'm on.
Los Angeles.
And we are getting racial in this movie, people.
There's some racial elements in this movie.
Yeah, I was like, wow, I kind of remember something being so cancable about this movie.
And then I was rewatching it.
And watching the depictions of the Colombian and Jamaican gang people
was insane.
Yes, the Jamaican gang people
doing voodoo, which I think is
Haitian. Yes. I don't think they
do voodoo in Jamaica. So
let me bring some
really quick facts to the forefront
immediately. First of all... Did you
watch the movie, Jacques? Yes, I watched the... I've seen
the movie before. I've seen the movie before
and I also... Okay.
So the movie takes place at the height of a gang
war between the Colombians
and... It takes place in the future
of 1997. It's one of those movies
that's like we're going to take place like seven years in the future and everything is going
to be like kind of futuristic even though it's in the near future well i mean we're talking about
1997 i think so like yeah um i i i guess golden eye uh aesthetics right like all the guns have like
these weird little attachments to them oh i want to i really if we're going to get into the guns i
I have a whole thing to go into the gun.
I was, I, okay, y'all, the gun list on this movie is absolutely crazy.
The plasma caster, that's what the Predator's triangle laser gun is called Max.
I was thinking about all the real life guns on this movie.
I mean, okay, let's just start with the craziest fact about this movie.
The main predator throughout this movie has a very,
you know important spear his very his noteworthy incredible spear stolen from the set of the movie before
the release of the film never tracked down till this day i think a crazier fact about the movie is
that the end at the ending when nine predators emerged from the miss all all nine of those predators
are played by the 1990 los angeles lakers and that's not a joke because they need a tall
They needed tall people to play the actors.
And Danny Glover was, like, friends with them and is, like, a huge Lakers fan and was like,
can you guys be in, can you be predators for me?
Oh.
He's torn to force this whole movie.
Yeah, like, he's tearing.
He's carrying the movie for everyone.
I do hate one thing about this movie, and that it is, it is a-
Gary Busey?
No, actually, I love Gary Bucy in this film.
This is the first, the first Bucy film after.
After his TBI.
Yes.
Yes.
After he became mentally deranged.
And it looks like it, too.
He is looking at it.
But the ravages of age have not affected him, you know, a whole ton yet.
So he looks good in this movie.
TBI not the standing.
No.
I wanted to mention, like, the Spanish in this movie is crazy, right?
like the like the set dressing like all the accoutrements all the all the all the non-white like racial accoutrements that are there are out of this world um
the apartment the penthouse apartment of the gangly can we yes that's like an aztec tem case yes yes it looks like
raiders of the lost art style blade runner meets raiders of the lost star it looks like the big ball's gonna come running down
the hallway like any minute now yeah yeah um no god that shit got brutal quickly too when they
immediately you go and you see this jamaican gang escape in the beginning scene and a huge
firefight with the cops and they end up going to the columbian drug it's the columbian gang
well they go to the columbian drug lord's penthouse the jamaicans do and they tie up the head guy
and hang them by his toes and start doing Haitian voodoo oh my god that was a great
scene.
Maybe one of the
greatest like portrait scenes
like in like
those B movies where it's like
you have like very gratuitous
blood a lot of like gore
afterward.
Like the whole fucking thing is painted red.
A screaming naked woman.
I can't just kill you. He says
I got to take your soul.
That's a better to make an accent
than whatever the guy's had in the movie.
Also,
I was reading that the gangs, the Jamaican gangs featured in the movie that are practicing voodoo are based on a real group of New York and Kansas Jamaican gangs, which I find really hard to believe that there's a Jamaican Kansas gang, but whatever.
I kind of, something in my heart doubts the, you know, I mean, because here, like, first of all, the action and the gang violence.
In this movie, it depicts a future world where gangs have, like, taken over Los Angeles.
And it's, like, perpetual, like, war where a hundred people die a day of gang war.
And, like, the gangs are crazy.
It's, like, cartoon-level violence.
It's, like, Verhoeven movies.
It literally looks like a GTA online lobby.
The way that people are just blowing up constantly.
The most incredible part is when the Colombian gang is having a huge fire.
fight in the beginning scene and the guy
pulls out that grenade launcher
shoots it at the cop car
and they're all like yeah
as soon as it blows up
it really felt like I love the
news station that's called hardcore
and it just shows like skinned
bodies on the like
at like one o'clock PM
on a Wednesday what movie is that
Nightcrawler Nightcrawler is
basically like a sequel to this movie
basically
Morton Downey Jr is he related to Robert
Donny Jr. I don't think so. I think
Robert Downey Jr. would probably be like in the family, but
Morton Downey Jr. Yeah. Are you talking about the news host
named Tony? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my God. Amazing. This guy
this guy's like, okay, we've got six more bodies. Everyone is
completely dead. Victims. We've got five gang members
and one good cop. But that's like a classic like
like shock jock
like me he was that
for a long time
he had a
like a few talk shows
and stuff that he had to resign
from because he like
he would like post
the other competing
this jockey's like phone
phone number like home phone
on the air
and like calling his wife
a fat bitch or whatever
and then like
yeah like he was
he was kind of an asshole
but like
this is the real life guy
He's, like, playing himself, basically, in the movie.
He's kind of notorious in California because he was, like, a pro-life guy in the 80s,
like, when Roe v. Wade was, like, a new thing.
And he, like, tried to run for president.
He was bombing.
He was, like, bombing abortion clinics.
Not almost, like, kind of.
He was, like, funding, like, the pro-life council and, like, students, like, all these, like,
like like propped groups or whatever to like you know yeah raise shit on campus you know
like some pretty like I don't know pretty modern shit now but Danny Glover must have loved
punching him in the face oh my god yeah absolutely I mean he's just an asshole all the way through
and amazing casting by the way because like the guy really sells it he like brings his eight game
yeah oh absolutely incredible casting Bill Paxton is so hot
you would have to be an idiot not to think so
I think his teeth are too crazy in this movie
his teeth are going out of here hessa
his teeth are like scary
you know his like crazy 80s veneers
that he has in this yes
I'm sorry you're just you're being
very y'all are both being very judgmental
and not understanding of what beauty is
he is cute he is cute
but I would not
like I would ghost him after
what's his big movie
I would rather
his big
biggest movie i mean he was in aliens too playing pretty much the same character actually
i mean more scared in aliens he's like less competent i guess in that movie he was in a bunch of
they have more cocaine yeah he's in a ton of yeah yeah he was like huge i just can't think of out the
top of my head um but the the the main cast we got danny glover is like the main detective
that his crew is made up of maria conchita alonzo queen who
has the most dyke-ass haircut
on the planet.
Max said she looked like she got stuck at the salon
and never came out until asleep.
Sorry,
she looks like that
that lesbian cop,
Dominican cop
that Ben is always
reposting on Instagram.
Yes.
Oh, the security guard.
Yeah.
Yes, yes.
That is.
That lesbian security guard is so funny.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh my God.
My favorite.
Yes.
Um, but, but obviously like a little bit more cunty.
Yeah, yeah.
And we have, of course, uh, Ruben Blades, the only actor in this movie, uh, to have a song that
was remixed by Ricardo Villalobos.
Yes, yes.
Which is a great honor for him.
I mean, he's also like, much better known for other better stuff, but yeah, let's.
What was his name again?
Ruben.
Better stuff.
Come on.
I didn't recognize him.
Ruben what sandwich?
Ruben Blades.
Dude, Pedro Navajo.
The coolest name ever.
Dude.
Yeah.
No, no, no.
Plastico.
He's in, he's in Dexter, I think, too.
Also playing a cop.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's probably his, the best thing he's ever done is being in Dexter.
Yes.
Is he in Dexter?
Is that the same guy?
Oh, my God.
Yes.
Oh, my God.
He's like walking dead stuff as well.
He's an incredibly racist movie with Joe Pesci.
Called Predator 2?
No, well.
I love the subtext in the, oh, go ahead, John.
Well, called The Super
Isn't another really crazy movie
It's the fact that he's in both of these
It's Joe Pesci as a slum lord
Forced to live at the slum
Would it surprise you to believe that this guy was also in
The Two Jakes
Another favorite of ours
Of course he's in The Two Jakes
Yeah, he plays the mob boss guy
Yeah, Mickey Nice! Yep
Yeah, I love it
The
Listen to Max, the episode of Max's podcast
Where we discuss the Two Jakes in death
Oh, my God.
More on that.
Yes.
Yes.
Max has a podcast.
Oh, my God.
Let's not get into it.
Oh, no.
It's not movie mindset.
I'll tell you what.
Yeah.
Y'all go check out the drain.
Max has been working so hard to drain guys and talk about his experience of draining them.
Yes.
Yes.
We have gone on Sniffies in the governor's mansion and, you know, the capital and stuff.
No takers yet, but there are a few.
gay guys givers if you
yes wait wait
if I'm understanding this right you left
us for other faggots
you're in the white house I'm
not barely
let's focus on the movie
it's a whole thing we'll tell you later
yeah
so yeah
Ruben Blades is in a lot of shit but he's also
in Predator 2
which is a movie we watched
the plot of this movie is
that there are two gangs that are fighting
the Scorpio's, which are Colombian,
and the Jamaican voodoo posies.
The Scorpios have gold attachets filled with cocaine
that they do the biggest amount of coke.
It's like the most racist way to do coke.
He gets it all over his nose and goes,
ah,
at one point, one of them is shot,
and it takes a handful of cocaine and just puts it on the wound,
which I'm like, I guess that would numb it maybe a little bit.
but another one like opens a gold Faberge egg
and just does Coke out of that
which was very confusing to me.
It was a scorpion.
It was a scorpion.
It was a gold Faberge scorpion.
It was like an ancient idol, I thought.
But that also makes sense.
It's kind of crazy like that first intro scene
because it does, it's a movie that does expect you to know a lot of the lore
because there's no formal introduction
to the...
Is Predator One the same way?
Yes, that's what I...
Also, one of the things I love about this movie
and Predator, the first Predator,
is that they don't...
They really, like, keep the Predator's backstory,
and, like, they keep it very obscured.
Like, you don't know anything about really the predator
except that he's an alien.
He's there to hunt people.
And he's indestructible, basically.
And he keeps trophies, yeah.
and he's like hard to kill and that's like it that's all you need to know though for this movie um
it's really beautiful and basically oh my god jock jacques just answered the phone why do you answer
the phone when we're recording because it's coming up on my computer and i can't like i don't have it
just press ignore how's that my mom will be in like some why don't you press ignore next time
call and like we'll get another call on the home phone and then another call and then like you know
whatever um your mom's ever get a lot of calls period um the uh the uh the but like basically
the predator hops in and starts fucking both of the gangs up yeah and the cops are like
what some someone or something is killing everyone um and the
feds come in and they're like cops please stop investigating uh you know uh armand asante
is like i don't know the president of the police or something i'm like he's a military
president or something is that is that is that it yeah you know who the hottest guy in this
movie was was the um the captain oh um uh kent kent something the like the other i thought it was james
woods is it not james woods no it wasn't james woods no is james woods in this fucking
movie no he's not in this movie okay then who the fuck was that i think you might be thinking
of armandesante the guy with the sunglasses yeah yeah yeah that's armanda sante he looks like if
james woods and um Sylvester Stallone fucked and had her yeah beautiful baby wait do
none of us even noticed that Adam Baldwin was in there uh not a real Baldwin so I don't really care
Yeah, not a real Baldwin, so he's a pretender.
I don't acknowledge him.
I don't, he's non-canon.
Non-canon-canon Baldwin.
If he dies, he dies.
But basically, the Predators there, and Danny Glover has to fight the Predator.
I also love the subtext in this movie that you got to be a brother to understand the predator.
You've got to be black or else.
I didn't think it was really interesting this series.
the predator who also has
dreadlocks fighting
Jamaican guys with dreadlocks
I was like are they trying to do something
here? Yeah, I mean
the design of the original predator
was based on like a Rasta warrior
that Joel Silver
had a painting of in his
office which I...
Yes. Yeah. Oh, I want
to see this painting. Can you Google it? What a
coat head move to have that painting. Yeah, I'll try to see if I can find it.
Imagine being the guy who's
like who sees that at some fuck-ass flea market in in jamaica it's like i gotta fucking have
this i got it's fucking peak wood dude doing a crazy amount of coke like a glass desk just like
oh oh uh putting putting glass on it so you don't scratch it up with your razor when you're
cutting up the coke lines that this is like yeah yeah this is like a predator of me
cutting cutting lines like you're at a brisk you know they have
They have, uh, they have, uh, Betty, um, Betty Davis is like personal nightstand, vanity stand that's made all of mirrors on display right now in a museum. And there's lines in it where they point out and they're like, that's where she used to do cocaine.
Hell yeah. Oh, period. I love that. I, I, I, I wish that there was more shit like that in like public archives. I wanted to see about like the queen smoking a blunt. You know what I mean? I want to see shit about, you know, like, you know, like,
I want to see
I want to see show about
Chris Andrew
and what he was up to
This movie is like
The gang war is kind of
positioned as like
cocaine versus weed
And those are the two sides
Of the gang war
The only two drugs really
Yeah
Yeah
And obviously
The weed you said this movie is insane
Yeah
I smoke a lot of weed
But these Jamaicans are smoking like
mythical level looking
giant joints all the time.
What does Danny Glover tell him?
You got to cut down.
You guys got to cut down.
Danny Glover,
the Jamaicans drive,
the Jamaicans drive Danny Glover
to a meeting with King Willie,
who's like the head,
the head of the Jamaican gang.
And when like that car is so smoky,
you know Danny Glover was high as fuck
when he got out of that car.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, should have been, but that motherfucker is so cold.
He got out that car.
Yeah, he's ice cold.
Ice clear, you know?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, crystal.
I mean, could you imagine, though, being high and having that meeting with King Willie?
I would kill myself, dude.
Yeah, I couldn't deal with it.
King Willie's like, something from the other side is coming to get you.
Fuck.
And his outfit is hot.
Like, everything in this movie is actually so fashion.
King Willie?
Like, it, yes, King.
Willie has this silver
chest plate that stops
below his neck and he's
got just like it's
a swagger that could not be
replicated today. I thought it was like a
giant chest piece
like a like a yeah it's
like a crusader is like curious
no no no but like a pendant
like hanging from his neck like a big ass
sleeve of sleeve style like
cut out of afric did my thing
did I get my shit from like
one torrent dot com whatever or like
Did I guess my shit from some place?
It's like way too bootleg?
Is it not a cutout of like the shape of the African continent?
I thought that was fucking crazy.
I read online that his chestplate was a reused prop from the movie The Vindicator.
Okay.
So and also let's just clarify something.
The Jamaican gang is actually called the voodoo posse.
I am not making this one.
That's a killer band name.
mm-hmm it truly is and they would make the worst ska music you've ever heard in your life oh my god
it would be all white people don't get me wrong it would be all white yeah one black guy playing
the moroccas or something it's a band that already exists it's called my son the elephant or
whatever yeah it's a band that already exists they're called jimmy eat world yes yes period
teach these um devils take so basically
they uh they you know the predator's on the loose he's fucking shit up um he can turn invisible let's go over
the predator's powers yes okay he can turn invisible um he can breathe really loudly and watch people
in thermal vision and then when he's watching people in thermal vision he's listening to them and
he's like mimicking their voices yes especially throughout the movie which was i don't remember him being
able to do that i want a piece of candy he does that in um
In Predator 1, he does that.
Ooh, a piece candy.
When they take his mask off at one point later in the movie, and he goes,
Madarfucker.
Yeah, that's a call back to Predator 1, because when Arnold Schwarzenegger takes his mask off,
he says, you are one ugly motherfucker.
And in this movie, Danny Glover tries to say that, but the predator wakes up and grabs him
by the neck and goes, motherfucker.
That scared me.
That shit scared me.
This movie's so aesthetic.
though the blood is like the brat neon green he's wearing like a a fucking mesh like tank top like
you know he's got like a lot of jewelry on i mean it kind of reminds me of the people today i did also
enjoy the the aesthetic choice of doing some scenes in false color like i thought that was really
fucking cool like the um like for context i guess the predator can only see in like certain wavelengths
like not uh light yeah uh not visible light but like ultraviolet or infrared or infrared
red so that means that they have to like wear special suits to like hide their like body heat and
stuff um and they wear like thermal cameras and stuff but like how they like show uh oh he's like
switching the um like the filters or whatever and the switching between filters yeah that that was
amazing i i'm a huge he's pressing left on the d pad he's reaching up behind the console or
something yeah yeah yeah um and i lo the the aesthetics
of the Predator are so fucking cool.
Like that little thing in the heads-up display that appears on the left when he's viewing people.
Oh my God.
It's the way that it breaks down the audio into this wave form.
It's not even clear if it's audio that it's breaking.
It's like something like I love how inscrutable it is.
Like all of the Predators like it's a great piece of art.
Like a lot of the triumph of this movie is dedicated to like the production team, not necessarily.
really like the actors really well absolutely yeah in in 1990 when you spend 35 million dollars
you better get a fucking you better get a fucking banger because that's what they spent on this movie
by the way oh my god it's crazy because that's like how much they probably spent on like i don't know
what's a shitty like recent movie that's the scarier 61st or something yeah no like uh what's it
called the hard feeling the one like the j the jennifer lawrence oh no hard feelings yes
yeah yeah yeah they probably spent maybe 60 million dollars on that movie and it's just like filmed on an iPhone inside of uh you know the the Trump Soho hotel or whatever has like for real rotoscoped uh like special effects like real you know uh oh the special effects are cutting edge from the movie the special effects are amazing amazing and I think under
sold yeah do you guys um i didn't watch a movie in this era and like of this era film and
think wow this is like actually impressed i mean i'm very easily impressed in general but this
it it was blowing me away the way that the the alien kind of camouflage was blending with
i thought it would look better than a movie today yeah it really does look i mean like this
movie is visually stunning it's it's beautiful and um like i don't i don't know if
they did it the same way in this movie.
I'm sure they might have done it a little differently.
But in the first Predator movie,
the way that they did the Invisible Predator is really cool.
Basically, they had,
they would film the shots twice,
once with no predator in them.
And then a second time with someone in a predator suit
that was completely matte red.
So it was like completely painted red.
And then they would chroma key out the predator suit.
and the one without the predator in it
is filmed with a wider lens
so they would just chroma key out
the guy in the red suit
and then put the other shot
with the wider lens in the background
so it was just like
it looked like a distorted version
of the like the jungle
in the background
just in that like outline
and it was like really cool
and the guy in that predator suit
was John Claude Van Damme
what?
Wait, wearing still.
Yeah, this first predator movie.
oh what that but he he only in the invisible shots because um he got fired because he was too short
i was gonna say what the fuck like was he was he wearing silk was he was he wearing like a cable harness
or something what the fuck um they replaced him with the same guy who plays the predator in this
who's seven foot two he was replaced by by tom cruise momentarily before he was truly also fired for
yeah yeah
Oh, my God.
Being a short king.
This movie changed my life.
Also, I want to throw a little special shout out to someone we didn't mention.
The actor Henry Kingy, who plays El Scorpio, the guy who's running around with the two Uzi's,
and the big necklace full of cocaine, long hair.
Wow.
This guy really gave me maybe a boner, maybe a feeling.
Yep.
I could fall in love.
I saw him killing and I said, yes.
Jacques, who, if you had to, if you could have sex with one person in this movie, who would it be?
The female officer, I was really...
Wow.
Maria Conchita Alonzo?
Yes, Leona Conchrelle, what was her name?
I'm trying to...
Detective Leona...
Critical fail speech check.
Cantrell.
And you're trying to hit on her.
And she, let's just break this down.
So let's get a little to the guns for a second.
I have to.
She had the SIG sour P.
226 with the
laser attachment on the bottom
I think it matched her hair
and she had silver jewelry on the whole time
I was kind of amazed actually
she looked good from the very beginning
when I saw her I like a short-haired one
It's a great service weapon but it won't
do a thing against our
terrible predator
unfortunately we move on and we got the
Sig Sour Pt26 and nickel for Bill
Paxton meanwhile our delicious
main defense against the predator has the
Magnum Research Incorporated
Mark 7 Desert Eagle, that beautiful
nickel finish with the
laser scope attachment
Chef's Kiss
period. That's what they point at the cat.
Jacques, do you have an idea on the shotgun he uses in the end?
Oh, absolutely. I can bring, I'm looking at
I have all of my notes right here. Let me grab it right here.
So he is using
he's using the
Benelli M1 Super
9D entry
and he's
blowing this guy
he's blowing this guy
with this shotgun
and honestly
when he's playing this
there's a moment
okay
there's a moment
where Danny Glover's got
the predator
in the meat factory
and he's got the
predator on the
meat factory
pause
pause
bro
factory
pause
pause
bro shit
Oh, my God.
You mean a slaughterhouse?
Yes.
The meat factory.
Look, I'm going to tell you right now.
That is exactly what it is.
Yes.
It's a Benelli M1 without a stock.
So it looks so tiny.
It's got the scope on top of it.
I mean, you know, and I love that they put this blue light effect throughout the slaughterhouse.
And it perfectly makes the.
The Predators' Blood, which is also green, like the aliens,
stick out in a way that, like, it lights up in the lighting of the dark blue,
Colba Blue.
It looks like my bedroom when I'm done with a...
Period.
Eight-hour goon session.
Am I right, sister?
Am I right?
That's, you put the goo in goon session, if you know what I mean.
That is, yeah.
Goonies.
And I'm a predator in many other...
Not perhaps in Los Angeles, but on Snapchat, maybe.
Period.
A period.
Can I, can I, can I, I, I would like to just really quickly give a, just one quick,
an honorable mention from the guns featured in this movie is this Steyer-Og-A-1,
an expensive rifle coming out at the very first scene, which from the Colombians,
and shooting back at them, we've got a heckler and Koch, AK-9-1, A-2,
with the police holding that
I was like damn they just got everything
God bless the Second Amendment
actually excuse me that was the Colombians
that had that
I mean I think even the most interesting gun
feature in this movie is the Ruger
AC556K
which is used by the Jamaican gangsters
without a stock
I mean it's a gun you don't see
often
why would you
why would you say that Ruger is so interesting
because it as far as I can recall
doesn't use like any crazy like um like um like um like it's not like lever action operated or
whatever it's not like roller blowback delayed uh what makes it so interesting okay with the wooden
finish that you would see kind of like on an AK 47 that uh takes up most of the stock
with that combined
you know, metal finish
on the side. It's something that you don't see
in like the later 70s, 80s
sub-machine guns past.
They're all black. You know.
Yeah, it's kind of a...
Talk about DDI.I...
Shut.
Okay, okay.
Oh!
I'm like, I gotta go!
Instead of pause.
Stop.
Okay, wait.
I'm just to confirm,
I am including a picture
of the gun that I'm talking about
right now into the chat and so take a look at this gun and i mean we maybe can make this
the clip i think the gun that has the greatest honors in this film is the gun at the very end which
we'll talk about when we get to it but um i think just to go back to a few specific scenes we've got
um i think my favorite scene in this movie is the the subway scene um max if you know uh you know
about, you know Ball about
California. Is that really what the L.A. subway
system looks like? It is
well, see, here's
the thing, right? This movie was made in
1990 and L.A. did not
have a subway until after
this movie premiered as far as I'm
concerned. So, I mean, then
again, this is set in 1997
so maybe, but it does not
look anything like this. I think
they are basing it off of
San Francisco's Bart
which is not
a subway system that is
could be used in LA
because like the system was designed
specifically for like
San Francisco and not like
LA. Anyway.
Yeah.
The subway sequence is so sick.
Also not as loud inside.
It should be like a million decibels louder
if it's based on the bar.
Because that motherfucker is loud
inside. Even when you go like
from one set of debate
to the other. That shit is not nice.
period.
Yeah, anyway, sorry.
I love, I mean, that scene, obviously the Slaughterhouse scene with the, you know, the UV lights that are, and all the dust floating around, you know, and like, but the, you know, there's a lot of sick shots in this movie and sick sequences.
The sea, I, but let's, let's talk about the politics of this movie.
It's a very politically charged film, obviously.
It is very James Woodsy in, I think.
Yeah, yeah.
It's got some of those elements to it.
That's why I expected him to be in the movie in the first place
because it's like...
Yeah.
Yeah, very much his style.
Everybody's crazy.
All the bang minorities in our cities.
Yeah, yeah.
How long was I muted for?
Good Lord.
Oh, my God.
On purpose?
I've just been saying, no, not at all.
I didn't even.
I just was trying to say something.
And I was like, why do they keep it?
ignoring me.
Well,
I was like the subway scene was so cool.
It was almost unwatchable
because of the amount of flashing
and strobing to show that kind of like
when the subway goes dark.
Who's the pussy now?
Who's the pussy now?
Oh, shut up.
I was already twisted off of the marijuana
watching that movie and it was the,
my lights were off and it started
thundering and hailing.
Oh, my God.
I'm not joking.
40 minutes ago, it was hailing while that was happening.
It's very shocking.
Okay, y'all can go.
I'm sorry.
When you were watching that scene 40 minutes ago,
and that scene takes place with 53 minutes left in the movie, to be clear.
Well, I meant like an hour ago or two, you know, don't you dare.
We've been recording for 36 minutes.
Oh, Christ.
Oh, give me a break, you junkies.
But, yeah, there's a lot of, like, funny little details in the movie that are very co-kehead-like.
Like, the Jamaican connection is insane.
I only realized that later because the director is, I think, born in Jamaica, like, raised elsewhere.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Stephen Hopkins was born there.
So.
Is he white?
He is a white fella, if it'll surprise you to believe.
Oh, my God.
He's a white, he's a bleached bombcloth batty.
Yeah.
He was white boy.
summer in 19 or sorry 1990 he also did a nightmare on elm street five the dream child that's how he got this job right is that the gay one yeah yeah yeah and he did the 1998 adaptation of lost in space period how do we forget a terrible movie um i thought that was an awesome movie don't try to get me into saying okay the um but the like politically yeah the the the the the the the the the the
a lot going on i mean the first the first predator movie is basically like the u.s is like evil and they're
sending these guys in and what if the jungle was like what if the jungle literally attacked them that's
like a line in the movie is that um the girl that's with them is like the jungle came alive and
killed him and like they keep talking about that because he is invisible he blends into the jungle
and you know he does have a very you know non-white kind of aesthetic to him the predator
I think you know like it is he is designed to have dreadlocks and such yeah um so it is kind
of like what is the scariest thing to the US and it's like that's what it is it's a race
yeah it's a you know a predator aka a really tall black guy
who's like part of the jungle and attacks them
and the you know in this movie it's kind of like
that is like the predator is kind of like
the personification of like what if
like the ultimate killer is loose in the city
you know they're literally it's almost like let's put
the ethnics versus the ultimate ethnic
an alien from outer space with dreads
yeah and you know you've got these different you know uh this it's much more like socially
kind of socially focused than the first predator movie where it's just like the jungle and by the
end it's just Arnold Schwarzenegger and he has to use like sticks and rocks to fight a predator yeah
the first one is a lot more like Zardaz in that way yeah yeah and it's yeah and by the end like
it's Arnold Schwarzenegger like it has to fight like a gorilla who is
like in the jungle and against something that has technology that is a thousand times better
than anything he has.
It's like what is the worst possible nightmare for like a U.S. Special Forces Commando?
It's like them being the people that they're hunting, basically.
That's their worst nightmare.
Well, I want to tell you a big difference between predator one, prior to two.
And Prater one, I was voting for the Predator.
And Predator 2, I was voting for Danny Glover because I wanted him to live.
the predator.
Yeah, you are
like Danny Glover is
awesome in this movie
and you do,
you are wanting him to live
and it seems like
even the other predators
want him to win.
He's trying to avenge
the death of his fellow
detective Danny boy.
Of his boyfriend.
Is that a gay?
Yeah.
Do you think they had sex?
They do hold hands on the roof
at one point.
I ship them.
I ship them 100%.
Yeah.
Ed,
What's her name?
The female cop.
Leona.
Leona.
She's pregnant.
It's never explained
whose baby it is.
Or why we should care.
Like, yeah.
I mean, pretty much,
like,
by the end of this movie,
the last like 40 or so minutes
of this movie,
they're basically like,
all right,
enough gang shit.
Enough with everyone else in the movie.
It's time for the predator
to fuck up a bunch of people.
It's like,
Be set loose, basically.
Oh, Gary Busey gets just so fucked up in that goddamn slaughterhouse.
He gets cut in half.
He stands here.
He slides over after he's almost been killed with a missing tooth and goes, I'm going to get him.
Mm-hmm.
Starts firing his, like, air blaster, like an upside-down keyboard cleaner.
Oh, I just remembered.
Yeah, the predator, like, scans her.
so I was like trying to remember like what the fuck happened in that scene anyway
where we find out that she's pregnant because there's no context right like there's no
like there had never been like a little um uh you know like a a little reminder earlier on
she has no romantic interest no romantic interest in the movie at all no mention of like oh
I'm missing my period or whatever or like oh you're PMSing well actually for your information
my shit's like three months late uh nothing
It's just like
That's such a gay guy idea
Of what a woman would say
To a guy
Who's their BMSing
For your information
My shit's three months late
Auntie
Listen I'm playing it
Like I feel it right
And if I was a pregnant woman
I would say yeah
My shit
My shit is three months late
I'm
Can we just stop talking about
The president
What do you want
Can we just stop talking about
Prender 2
And just talk about
If you were a pregnant woman
I have been
thinking a lot about empeg. Because Jacques's getting hard. I'm like, oh my God. Yeah, I can see the
picture of you kind of crying in a soft light that's a portrait of you naked with the big
belly. No, I like the M-Preg videos that's like, it's two guys, it's AI generated, and one of them's
like very pregnant, like alarmingly pregnant. And, you know, his, his, his, uh, hunk, a husband or
partner i presume um it comes up behind them and they pat the belly oh he's kicking me right here
can you feel it because of course you're having a boy um yeah no no girls allowed in this tree
house yeah yeah yeah and imagine being two gay guys and one of them like in an mpreg thing and
you give birth out your butt or whatever and it's a girl no you destroy your penis like that
that shit is popping your entire shit like a zit yeah that thing's coming out it is dr pimple popper up
Like there's cloaca.
It's bad enough when you have to push a kidney stone out that tiny tube.
Yeah.
A baby?
Yeah.
A real life baby.
No surrogate.
Yeah.
Those are amazing.
My Instagram has been plagued by them lately.
By lately, I mean like the last year.
You mean because you keep saving a naked gay pregnant.
I keep saving it and sending them to my friend John.
Yeah.
Yeah.
you do i it's not surprising i'm still looking for that amazing there's one video that was like
where the where the baby slides of the asshole no no the one um what do you what which one what oh
the video that max uploaded where the guy's getting fisted and then a baby doll squirts out of
his yes that is classic yeah yeah yeah i'm my favorite is the one where the camera's pointing up at
the ceiling and you see a guy like
squatting like kind of scurry over the camera and then he crouches down a little bit and his
erect cock flops out of his own butthole yes it's like really really looped up and wet you're not
looking up at the camera he is walking into the into the bathroom at a hotel probably some
some disgusting cum dump that he's gone to to get bread in or something and uh it's probably a
ramata yeah yes definitely a romata and because you can tell it because they use the the
Formica
bathroom tiles
and those are
awful looking
so it is
almost like
you're looking
at the ceiling
but he's actually
just like
kneeling on the
like toilet
on the tub
and he's
walked into the room
with his balls
tucked in his ass
so that is probably
the more
impressive thing
about the whole thing
yeah
yeah
that he can
strut his stuff
yeah
Max keeps checking
behind his
him to make sure his parents aren't.
No, yeah, because I do not want to have this conversation with my mother about,
why is it talking about balls and M-M-Preg?
Is that?
No, they know.
They know.
Yeah.
But basically, this movie ends with the Predator being defeated.
The Predator gets its arm cut off in probably a nod to, what's his name?
Star Wars.
Carl Weather is getting his arm cut off in Predator 1.
Yes, but not all the way.
Not all the way.
Yes.
Not this time.
It was kind of, okay, let's just discuss the really quick sequence of events.
What happens?
The alien gets his arm cut off and chases Danny Glover to the roof.
They're fighting to the near death.
Danny Glover almost falls off of the ledge.
So does the alien.
The alien's weapon is a disc with holes in it.
the fit your fingers like a bowling ball
but a disc blade. Danny Glover
unwedges it from the wall
at the last minute chops off
the arm that is about to
self detonate to the size
of something like
300 football fields. I think has
mentioned how big the bomb would have blown
off that he cuts
off the arm at the
weapon point right before
it blows up. The alien
predator falls down
into the bathroom
across the fucking street.
I love the display of the, again,
the beautiful aesthetics of the predator,
the display of like the way the numbers look
is like crazy.
And also that's how Predator One ends with
the predator losing and in a coward's bid
for like a coward's failure detonates itself
and like basically levels the entire jungle,
which I feel like is a very,
cheap that that kind of hints towards a very americanness of the of that predator
you know um kind of like in and in this movie i do think that that comes back a little bit
where it's like um you know the i feel like the other predators are like it's a bad look
to just blow yourself up like that if you're you know if you just because you're losing
um and yeah i i do love um but like yeah Danny Glover like the
Predator goes into a bathroom and this couple is watching Jeopardy.
The answer to the Jeopardy question is Richard the first, because I looked it up.
That is asked.
I don't remember what the question was.
I do remember hearing that out loud.
Yeah.
The, and basically, like, they're like, oh, predators just go to wherever there's, like,
heat and conflict.
Because this is also a sweaty movie.
Like, this is one of the sweatiest movies.
Well, they do.
explain that the creature
tries to seek
places that are hot and
violent, which is why he
shows up in Central America at some point.
They were also mentioned
at the beginning of the movie that L.A. was going
through a heat wave. Yes. Yeah, a hundred and
everybody was a scowarton
all over each other.
Everyone's squirting.
Danny Glover has squirt all
over his face for a lot of the movie.
He looks like he's been erased.
I thought it was
so cool looking when the
predators in the bathroom and he opens up
his like first aid kit
that he pulls out of his asshole
which oh my god yes and
then he then does this weird
thing where he starts breaking
the mirror of the bathroom in front
of him and the wall
and then he takes pieces of rocks
and puts them in a
mini satellite dish
looking metal bowl which he then
pours a glowing
blue liquid on top of
it then it turns into a jelly and then he rubs it on his wounds why did you turn into a burger king
foot lettuce uh at the end of that it turned it to a jelly sorry um i did also see the movie
i thought it was amazing uh he yeah he shut up i saw the movie i watched the no i'm i'm trying to
say that i saw the movie as i'm trying to to deflect back from me bullying you
but I do love the predator doing medical shit on it
I think there's a scene like that in the first movie as well
but like that is always like and that's such a cocaine idea
of like what if the predator because they're so advanced
all they got to do they just need some material
but it's always a cool scene they just mix it with a goop
it's a cool scene in any movie
yeah I want anything glowing green or anything glowing
Ronin when
Yes
Yes
I was thinking of
Not cool runnings
Bruce Stern in
Running something
What is it
Running scared
No not running scared
Oh fuck
Midnight run
No midnight run
Fuck he's in a fucking
Spaceship
The running man
Not the running man
Fuck you
I'm gonna have to look it up
Hang on
Run DMC
He's not in run DMC
It's silent running
Is it
Yeah silent running
Oh, the
The submarine movie
Kind of, yeah
He's not deep underwater
But he's actually high up in space
Oh, the 1962 movie
The Loneliness of Long Distance Runner?
No, no, no.
Yeah, the loneliness of the long distance runner
That's what you're thinking of Max.
Yes, that is absolutely it
And also silent running
With Bruce Dern and a bunch of little people
In metal questions, yeah.
by the way honorable mention to the movie blade runner
yes yeah a lot of the
a lot of this movie really really invokes blade runner
in the you know the the look of it
they're really like especially the police station
all the monitors you know well actually no
I was gonna say something really stupid you're right
you're right I was gonna say
they probably base this off of demolition man
but that shit no I think
I think you're actually right I do think it's actually
like I'm not
kidding. I wouldn't be surprised if they had the same.
I'm actually going to look it up right now. It's a prequel to
Demolition Man. It's a canonical prequel. I've never seen
Demolation Man. No, wait. Wait, Max. That actually makes
perfect sense because Demolition Man, if you, do you remember how it opens?
I do remember how it opens. The future year, the future year
1997. Whoa. And L.A. is a gang ravaged
Hellscape. No, wrong. It's 2032.
No, Jock, shut up. You're wrong? Because it actually
starts, it actually starts in
1997, in the future
year of 1997, and then he gets
frozen for 27 years, and then
it's 2032.
He gets frozen for 36
years? Okay.
I'm gonna look it up
and he's, and he was
frozen in what they called the cryo
prison. Yep, yep, they put
him in the torture chamber. Just a fun fact for all the
listening. It was actually 1996, I just looked
it up. Wesley Snipes' character.
Simon Phoenix.
one year before this you know maybe this is basically where you know uh this is where
everything went wrong and they were like okay we've got to create a neutered society yeah and
change the name of a murder to a murder death kill and stuff i'll tell you i'll tell you the moment
when everything went wrong september 23rd 1992 the second i was born okay period
it.
Shut the
fuck up, bitch.
You're so retarded.
I hate you,
dumb bitch.
Go back to Los Angeles.
Oh my God.
It's the same
it's literally
the same production designer
as Blade Runner.
Is it really?
Wow.
No shit.
Okay, no wonder it's so good.
Yeah, I'm going to check
the art director too.
I want to know what they,
what the public's opinion is
is through the
Rotten Tomato Lens.
Oh, the art director did The Cell.
Oh, I love this.
How did this only get 44%?
30% on the tomato meat.
They just don't even know what they're raining.
They don't know.
They don't know.
The cell's pretty good.
They don't know it. They're always given 98%
to the worst fucking movies.
Yeah.
I can't wait.
I can't wait.
They can't hate.
You know that, who's that
critic in
the Times?
or like New York one maybe
that like just cannot hate
a movie. Yeah. Pocahontas.
Cannot hate a movie. Who?
Oh, um, what's his name?
Sydney Johannesburg.
Yes.
Not Richard Brody, right? No, because Richard Brody
has some, some dope takes where he hates me.
Yeah, I don't think it's Richard Brody.
But yeah.
Oh, you're talking about acclaimed critic Grape Johnson?
No.
But he does have like a weenie.
name. Oh, I'll see if I can remember. It's not worth
to remember it. It's not worth it. Gary Busey's amazing in this movie. That's
the final, that's the bottom line. He makes a lot
of those iconic Gary Bucy faces when he's angry and his whole teeth.
And he's kind of mid-ing growling. So wait, can you
explain to me what kind of accident he had that he got a TBI? I didn't know this.
He had a motorcycle accident and he got a TBI. Pussy.
And he became brain damaged.
yeah um but the um basically the way this movie ends is the um like danny glover and the predator face off in the predator's ship okay and the predator's ship really looks like um the jared letto's office and blade runner 2049 kind of yeah real quick detail he's chasing the predator throughout this building right before he gets the ship he's then falling through a elevator then the elevator's about to fall on
him and then he releases his hands into a dark hole and all he goes is ah and you see his body
fall into the darkness all of a sudden they show like him standing up on the ship and the ship
it looks like the size of seven buildings i think they cut that scene well you see the ship from
the outside after i think um yeah and but i do love like you have no idea why the ship is there
or why they're nine other predators there they know why it's there it's there because there's a meat
factory like two floors above it yeah yeah yeah yeah i think in my mind in my head canon the other
predators came there because this predator was like going to was bawling too hard and was like
about to be on the movie maybe he was like too ghetto maybe he was like uh yeah like the equivalent
of parking outside of walmart or something yeah and the other predators were like all right
we got to go back and get this guy because he's like fucking shit up and then danny glover kills him and
the other predators all appear
played by the
1989
and they dab him up
Lakers
yeah
and they literally
they dab him up
this big
like cooler
predator is like
he literally stands up
and puts his gun down
and goes
okay what do you guys
want to do now
no yeah
he says okay
who's next
and then
the
the guy hands him
a flintlock
pistol
with a name
like engraved on it and he's like here's your gift you killed a predator congrats and um i kind of
read that as because the year on the flitnlock pistol was 1715 so in my mind that the a predator
took out the um that Spanish armada of treasure galleons that was uh sunk that bankrupted the
spanish empire because all of their treasures got sunk by a storm well didn't it say like 17 14 or
something?
1715, yeah.
Yeah, that was a very,
I'm bringing up that gun, the name of that actual
gun, by the way.
But I feel like, yeah, they put that in there because they're like,
this is, we're going to do a prequel.
And I don't know,
they might have.
They did.
They did.
I would have loved, wait, they do a prequel set in that early days.
Yeah, it's called Prey.
And it's about two fur trappers,
two Native American fur trappers fighting the French
fur trappers in the
Northern Canada.
It is kind of a piece of shit.
I am told I haven't seen it.
So I really want to see the new,
there's a new one coming out too
with L. Fanning in it, right?
Is there?
Yeah, she plays like the top half
of an Android torso.
Yes.
And the pistol that's handed to him
is a Michelet Locke Pistor.
It's a Dinnix, Catalonian replica pistol.
And it was produced by Keystone
arsenal replicas and
I think it's interesting that
they were, it's an 18th century gun
and they're saying that it was
featured in 17th century. I mean, come on.
I have a keystone.
I think that is exactly how they work.
I have a keystone replica pistol. No, no, no, but that is
exactly how the century's workshop.
That is. Yeah, yeah.
What do you mean? The 1700s are the 18th century.
Yeah.
Because the first century is the zero hundreds of.
Yeah. That's why we're in the 21st century, even though
I just
on this out yesterday. That's why I'm being
gentle. Are you
serious? No. No. I've known this
for a long last time. I've never
known this. Fuck y'all.
I'm being very basic knowledge.
I'm being gentle because I'm not Ben.
Yeah.
If you were Ben, we would have a 10 minute
digression about this right now.
We would call
like a family member and
ask, hey, so like. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
I also honorable mention from when Gary Busey is confronting Danny Glover inside the all-red trailer,
the HQ of like the FBI kind of like team in charge of tracking this alien down.
And he's like, stay take your big nose and keep it out of my business.
He's a normal size nose.
Yeah, Danny Glover has a very normal nose.
I bet it was a Gary, Gary Busey, a Jerry Lewis.
Jerry Lewis did an uncredited rewrite.
That's amazing.
No, maybe it's like one of those things because like they had other people
considered to be the lead role for this, right?
Yeah, I think Stephen Segal.
I read it was Patrick Shwezy.
Yes.
Yeah, Patrick Shwezy, Stephen Segal.
Steven Seagal in that
weed in that weed scene
Holy
Holy
Chills dude chills
Just thinking about it
What's that movie where
What's the movie where he goes to Jamaica
And like kills a bunch of Jamaicans
I think
Is there one where he's like in Alaska
And he's like defending penguins
Oh yes
That's um
That's on deadly ground
That's genuinely a good movie
Genuinely good
Yes
And he tells it
He tells a white guy to sit his white ass down.
By the way, so they were saying, y'all, they had the hardest scenes filming all of the scenes shot in the alleyways,
particularly the scene where they were filming between Danny Glover meeting King Willie.
Apparently, it was so much garbage that while they were filming it, a crew member was backing up and knocked something over and found a dead body.
Holy shit.
Then, so then it took a few days.
fix that up. When the crew
came back, all of the
neighbors in the neighborhood had to call
Ray Donovan. Wait, listen up.
Listen up. That all the
neighbors in the neighborhood had put bags
of dog shit in brown paper
bags scattered throughout the trash.
So the alleyway
people are walking. So they threw away dog
poop? No, no, no.
They added extra bags
of dog shit all over scattered
where they were filming so they would step in dog
shit. Okay.
They should have just thrown them at them.
Wouldn't that make more sense?
Well, no, but that's too confrontational.
It's better.
It is more SoCal to just like.
Oh, actually, I'm reading it back.
They were throwing paper bags filled with feces from the windows.
So they were just throwing them up.
Oh, so they were doing that. Wow.
That is more credit than I, that I cared to give them.
The, um, okay.
So the Steven Seagall movie where he fights Jamaicans is called Marked for Death.
It's from the same year.
And in this one, they do explain in this one, apparently.
It says, Jamaican drug dealers led by screwface, using a combination of fear and
obeah, a Jamaican syncretic religion of West African and Caribbean origin similar to Haitian
voodoo and Santa Ria.
Okay, that kind of makes sense.
So in that movie, they, in the Stevens-A-Gal movie, they're like, okay, this isn't
voodoo, but it's similar.
Let's explain it.
And in this one, they're like, fuck it.
It's just voodoo.
Who cares?
which is funny to me um but yeah i really um maybe that's why i love this movie
yeah yeah he quit because they didn't teach it they didn't treat the subject with enough reverence
he was probably like i want to play a monk i want to play a priest who's doing this
fighting the predator and i want to i want to have a fist fight with them at the end yes yes um yeah
and no one can die that's like a stephen seagall last request is like my character
no one can die throughout the movie
oh fuck
yeah
Gary Beasie
amazing
Danny Glover
he tour
is Danny Glover
she tour
oh okay I wanted to also
mention this
this is the scene where they go to the ship
and the predator
and Danny Glover discovers
the trophy case of skulls
they see a xenomorph
skull
inside the
and this is the first time
that the Predator and Aliens universe crossed over
and which would later become canon.
Oh, cross over, crossed over.
Yeah, well, the Alien versus Predator movies
are not canon for the Alien franchise,
but they are canon for the Predator franchise, I think,
if I recall correctly.
And the new one is going to be a crossover of both
because it's El Fanning plays like a Wayland-Utani android
who's missing, who's just a torso.
Predator Badlands.
That's the name of the worst gay...
Sorry, it's like...
There's two gay clubs, so it's like the second best
gay club in Sacramento.
Badlands.
Oh, okay.
The worst.
Sorry, second best really.
What's the best one?
The best one is the depot,
but only because it actually has glory holes
in the bathroom.
Badlands does not.
Oh, period.
And you can score a good fish scale
if you're there on a good day.
At the depot.
At Batlands, they do not let you do that.
It's frowned upon.
Yeah, but yeah, the Predator's face is really scary.
It looks like a giant spater.
If you're racist, I thought it was cool.
I don't think.
Because it was Jamaican.
The face is not Jamaican of the Predator.
I don't think.
The face is like...
What do you mean?
What do you mean?
Explain yourself.
I don't know.
It doesn't look...
It's not human.
It looks like a giant...
Listen, I'm colorblind.
I don't see color.
It's not a problem for me.
Oh my gosh.
Oh my gosh.
This is a really good movie, though.
I think this movie has a worse reputation than it deserves.
I mean, the politics are inscrutable and like crazy.
Probably for the best.
yeah yeah i mean you can't make a movie like this nowadays you can't do it
people aren't brave enough yeah people aren't brave enough to do actually i don't think so i
think i think they have enough they did it i think to prove a point and to like pointedly do this
but now it's it's they have so many they have such a diverse cast of extras and they they show los angeles
to be such a melting pot of a city um yeah i think then it was just to be like
Yeah, it's all gang members and thugs.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No Salvadorans.
They got to be Colombian.
I have never met a Colombian in California.
Really?
Actually, I've met one.
I guess they're all in Miami.
Yeah, they're all in fucking Miami.
It's closer.
You got Mexicans.
You got your Salvadorans.
You got your Nicaraguans.
You got your Puerto Ricans.
Oh, God.
If you're really unlucky, I suppose.
Um, yeah, no, but you, you don't got Colombians.
What the hell?
You're not Puerto Rican?
Or Jamaica.
I don't think there's Jamaican gangs.
Or Jamaican gang.
Yeah, much less than Los Angeles.
Maybe New Orleans.
Well, I think, I think most Jamaican gangs are in Jamaica, honestly.
Probably 99% of Jamaican gang members are.
The Jamaican voodoo posse gangs seen in a film were based on actual gangs that were terrorizing New York City in Kansas City.
That is not true, though.
I'm reading the fucking trivia.
Don't you tell me it's not true.
Mind of Jason is one of those.
When you first read that trivia piece.
Well, listen to this.
It's another thing to just think about.
The Jamaicans were not played by actors or stunt people, but real-life bouncers because
the director, Stephen Hopkins, said they had to be able to be physically intimidating
and die fantastically horribly.
They don't show up any of that in the final cut.
I think
There's a lot of it that's hitting a different
I think you must have seen an edited version
Max because I feel like you're missing a lot of scenes
A lot of it feels like it's
A Jamaican gang called the
The shower posse
Pause
Wait they're called the voodoo posse
In the movie
But in this
You know
In this
In this thing we call real life
This
Oh they're in a brief history of seven killings
that's interesting
this
this
this
this
this third rock
from the sun
yeah
it's a little lonely
here
without no predator
now that
yeah
RIP
that of the
police kill one
well
as Danny Glover says
in the last
line of the movie
they'll get another
chance
because the predators
they come back
they're never done
for good
when they were dapping them up
they were like
hey watch out
we're going to come back yeah yeah and um i love the last shot of the movie at which is so
kind of art house like the last shot is like it's a helicopter but in the lower left corner of
the screen and the spotlight of the helicopter is just makes such a weird shape and like it's it's
it's just like so like eerie and like weird almost looks like a space it's like a lens flare right yeah
yeah yeah yeah and i really love that and i mean it really is like a a visually stunning movie
um yeah and it's awesome and i do think that you know it's it's not it's you know it definitely
has its it's redeeming uh it's not as racist as we probably made it out to see no i think it's actually
pretty damn racist well yeah yeah yeah but like you know
I mean, Danny Glover, I mean, imagine if Danny Glover
wasn't the main character.
It would be the most racist movie of all.
Well, not if it was Stephen Segal.
It would be extremely anti-racist.
It would have been very woke.
Patrick Swayze, though, that would have been a completely different story.
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, if Stephen Seagall was the guy,
he would have been walking around like,
this motherfucker.
Yeah, no, I don't know what kind of brother
he would sound the same.
Stephen Seagull is such a fucking idiot.
He's been $100,000 in a bulletproof suit.
Like, who's shooting you?
Who's trying to actively kill you that remembers you?
Not me.
Who thinks about you daily?
I'm going on a little preview for listeners.
I'm going on Chopo tomorrow to do a Stephen Seagall movie episode.
That's going to be fun.
A little crossover.
He kind of used to be my crush.
Really?
I mean, elementary school, a guy with a gun that had long hair?
Sure.
He looks like, I don't know, like, what does Steven Seagal even look like?
Man without traditional lengths of hair are attractive.
I don't think so.
I think they're absolutely across the board less attractive.
I think any...
I think he's brave and that, that I think is beautiful.
I think he's brave for doing everything he's doing.
Wasn't he at that big-ass military parade in China recently?
Oh, yeah, for sure.
He was at that motherfucker?
The Russian government also recently released, like, an official statement that said he is, quote, as heavy as a bear.
Hell, yes.
Which is sick.
What a king.
Oh, God.
Maybe, like, the only remaining person that can successfully succeed Trump.
Yeah, absolutely.
We need Segal in here.
and he'll be like we're annexing Chechnya
everybody would be like sir yes sir yes
I'm ready I'm ready
my hole is quivering sir I'm your hoochicoochoochee man
sir my whole is quivering
oh my whole is quiverin from Buda
all right do we have any closing thoughts
because I do have to go um yeah I was really mad
today when I ordered Mediterranean food
and I ordered Hulumi cheese
and they brought me
a Hulumi cheese wrap
smothered in liquid mayonnaise
to the point where it was oozing out
like a biting into a lemon
He ordered there was so much liquid
Quote unquote Mediterranean
Quote unquote Mediterranean
We all know what that means y'all
Greek
Mm-hmm great yeah
BDS baby
Ooh not good
Yeah Chuck
Big big dukey shit
Tel Aviv
The Tel Aviv grill
Yeah
Chuck was horrid
No I probably wasn't called bad
Let's give him more credit.
It was probably called like Happy Dance Factory or something.
It's called Zeus.
It's called Zeus.
Z-U-Z-S.
Z-U-Z-S is how you think you.
So it's Polish.
It's a Polish restaurant.
No, Z-E-U-S.
First of all, it's Juge, and that's still Jewish.
Don't you ever accuse me of being Jewish again.
I got Hulumi cheese from, don't you ever accuse me of being one.
of them again.
Don't you ever accuse me
to be a Jewish again.
I hate them.
Don't how many times I have to tell you.
Don't you ever accuse me of being Jewish again.
Okay, Jacques just held up a Nazi medal to the camera.
I'm not kidding.
I did not hold up a Nazi medal.
That's insane.
Hold it up again, Jack.
Jacques is holding up that up.
Hold it back up.
Show Max.
Oh, hang on.
I got a tab back again.
Oh, Christ.
No.
Show Max the medal.
That is a Minecraft
New Hickey
of some sort?
No,
go to the other one.
Yep.
Look at that.
That's the poor
Maritare or whatever it is.
The Blue Cross.
That shit's normal.
No, it's not.
Because I remember when he bought it
and he sent me the page
from the website he bought it.
I did not say it.
The Germans have had an army
before World War.
Listen, I've been reading a lot
about the guns of August.
You guys, I think they might have been
stabbed in the back.
But I will be doing
more.
reading later and going back to you
with some more trends and thoughts
about the Treaty of Versailles
and
period. Yeah. Other
All right, Jack. What the hell is that? Closing
Thoughts, Chuck.
Predators 2 is an action movie
that will take anyone in for
a ride of their lifetime with
action, intrigue,
and alien technology.
Period.
Period.
It's basically what it's like to live in China.
yeah
shut the fuck pretty much
feels like the future jock
what is your rating jac
10 out of 10 there was not a
beat that I didn't love
I concur
I only give movies
I'll give it a 10 out of 10 as well
I'm gonna give me
period
um
the
also on the bonus features
of the DVD there's a video of
all nine predators dancing with Danny Glover in the spaceship.
And I'll send that to both of you so you can watch it.
Yeah, yeah, I'll send it to both of you.
Wait, can you find that damn painting?
I couldn't find it.
The one they found in Argentina recently?
No.
The one of the Rasta Warrior that was on Joel Silver's wall, that he was like,
this is what the predator should look like.
I'm jockeing off at the moment.
I'm joccing off.
Yeah.
I don't know what that means.
Don't use my name and V.
Love you all.
Goodbye.
Love you.
Love you.
Goodbye.
We'll see you next time on movie Jacques set.
Muh.