Seeking Derangements - SD 438 - Movie Jacque-Set: Predator with Max

Episode Date: September 21, 2025

It's Seeking Sunday! Hesse, Jacques and Max review the 1990 action/sci-fi film Predator 2! Listen to Max's show The Drain...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Thank you. Uh, no. No. You got to go. Some people have taxes on the brain. Others have politics on the brain, but we've have movie on our minds. That's right. This is Jacques movie mindset.
Starting point is 00:00:47 To remind Shack's that, please don't infringe on our copyright, me and Will. Um, hi, I'm Will Minnaker, and this is Chapo Trapa. No, I'm just kidding. Um, hey, everyone. This is Jacques Gonsolin. We're here with Max. Hey. My favorite guy.
Starting point is 00:01:05 And then my favorite gal, Hesedini. I want to share my address, too, just so the audience knows. I think that's very important. You'll mute out your last name, or Max. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:01:15 I'm sorry. I was just being formal. I'm just impressed you. You've pronounced it so well. It's usually, like, a huge sticking point for white people. Well, no, it's, you know, that old saying, like, no thine enemies. You know, no.
Starting point is 00:01:30 how to pronounce your enemy's name so you can trash talk them efficiently but I love you thank you thank you you look too good why don't you why don't you explain what what movie what the hell are we doing here
Starting point is 00:01:45 today well don't think anything that you remember about the movie predator don't even think about Predator at all because what you know about Predator to throw it out the window because we're about to dive into the 1990 film Predators
Starting point is 00:02:00 Or Pretter Oof Already took It's a great movie Danny Glover Gary Busey Bill Paxton Maria Conchita
Starting point is 00:02:11 Kevin Spacey as the predator Kevin Spacey is Harvey Weinstein produced Yes It's a biopic of Harvey Weinstein Actually not produced by Harvey Weinstein I have to
Starting point is 00:02:23 I have to I did my homework on this This is a non-Preditor Was Kevin Spacey really in it? No Yeah, he was wearing a lot of prosthetics. He was invisible for a lot of it by Kevin's face. He's invisible for a lot of it.
Starting point is 00:02:38 But he shows up. It was a crazy movie. I remember it being very crazy, but it far blew my expectations out of the water. And when we're ready for it, I have some very interesting facts to bring up. So save a good five minutes. Can I have a semi-interesting fact about this? Jock, you mentioned, to throw. everything you know about predator out the window
Starting point is 00:03:01 I don't know anything about predator this is my first predator franchise experience Wow Max what did you think I thought it was fucking awesome I thought I for a long ass time I thought this was John Wu because it has all the Who Hall hallmarks
Starting point is 00:03:16 except not quite as good I was like was the cocaine not that good that year but this was not a John Mood joint You'd have to be addicted to cock and be a total pussy to be denying that this is a solid incredible action guilty guilty yes so this this movie is the predator goes from the jungle in the first movie the predators in the jungle of course of south america being hunted by a crack
Starting point is 00:03:47 team of commandos in nicaragua led by screenwriter shame black yes who is inexplicably in predator as the first guy who gets killed. But this one, the predator goes to the concrete jungle, if you know what I'm on. Los Angeles. And we are getting racial in this movie, people. There's some racial elements in this movie. Yeah, I was like, wow, I kind of remember something being so cancable about this movie.
Starting point is 00:04:22 And then I was rewatching it. And watching the depictions of the Colombian and Jamaican gang people was insane. Yes, the Jamaican gang people doing voodoo, which I think is Haitian. Yes. I don't think they do voodoo in Jamaica. So let me bring some
Starting point is 00:04:39 really quick facts to the forefront immediately. First of all... Did you watch the movie, Jacques? Yes, I watched the... I've seen the movie before. I've seen the movie before and I also... Okay. So the movie takes place at the height of a gang war between the Colombians and... It takes place in the future
Starting point is 00:04:55 of 1997. It's one of those movies that's like we're going to take place like seven years in the future and everything is going to be like kind of futuristic even though it's in the near future well i mean we're talking about 1997 i think so like yeah um i i i guess golden eye uh aesthetics right like all the guns have like these weird little attachments to them oh i want to i really if we're going to get into the guns i I have a whole thing to go into the gun. I was, I, okay, y'all, the gun list on this movie is absolutely crazy. The plasma caster, that's what the Predator's triangle laser gun is called Max.
Starting point is 00:05:39 I was thinking about all the real life guns on this movie. I mean, okay, let's just start with the craziest fact about this movie. The main predator throughout this movie has a very, you know important spear his very his noteworthy incredible spear stolen from the set of the movie before the release of the film never tracked down till this day i think a crazier fact about the movie is that the end at the ending when nine predators emerged from the miss all all nine of those predators are played by the 1990 los angeles lakers and that's not a joke because they need a tall They needed tall people to play the actors.
Starting point is 00:06:27 And Danny Glover was, like, friends with them and is, like, a huge Lakers fan and was like, can you guys be in, can you be predators for me? Oh. He's torn to force this whole movie. Yeah, like, he's tearing. He's carrying the movie for everyone. I do hate one thing about this movie, and that it is, it is a- Gary Busey?
Starting point is 00:06:49 No, actually, I love Gary Bucy in this film. This is the first, the first Bucy film after. After his TBI. Yes. Yes. After he became mentally deranged. And it looks like it, too. He is looking at it.
Starting point is 00:07:03 But the ravages of age have not affected him, you know, a whole ton yet. So he looks good in this movie. TBI not the standing. No. I wanted to mention, like, the Spanish in this movie is crazy, right? like the like the set dressing like all the accoutrements all the all the all the non-white like racial accoutrements that are there are out of this world um the apartment the penthouse apartment of the gangly can we yes that's like an aztec tem case yes yes it looks like raiders of the lost art style blade runner meets raiders of the lost star it looks like the big ball's gonna come running down
Starting point is 00:07:52 the hallway like any minute now yeah yeah um no god that shit got brutal quickly too when they immediately you go and you see this jamaican gang escape in the beginning scene and a huge firefight with the cops and they end up going to the columbian drug it's the columbian gang well they go to the columbian drug lord's penthouse the jamaicans do and they tie up the head guy and hang them by his toes and start doing Haitian voodoo oh my god that was a great scene. Maybe one of the greatest like portrait scenes
Starting point is 00:08:26 like in like those B movies where it's like you have like very gratuitous blood a lot of like gore afterward. Like the whole fucking thing is painted red. A screaming naked woman. I can't just kill you. He says
Starting point is 00:08:44 I got to take your soul. That's a better to make an accent than whatever the guy's had in the movie. Also, I was reading that the gangs, the Jamaican gangs featured in the movie that are practicing voodoo are based on a real group of New York and Kansas Jamaican gangs, which I find really hard to believe that there's a Jamaican Kansas gang, but whatever. I kind of, something in my heart doubts the, you know, I mean, because here, like, first of all, the action and the gang violence. In this movie, it depicts a future world where gangs have, like, taken over Los Angeles. And it's, like, perpetual, like, war where a hundred people die a day of gang war.
Starting point is 00:09:33 And, like, the gangs are crazy. It's, like, cartoon-level violence. It's, like, Verhoeven movies. It literally looks like a GTA online lobby. The way that people are just blowing up constantly. The most incredible part is when the Colombian gang is having a huge fire. fight in the beginning scene and the guy pulls out that grenade launcher
Starting point is 00:09:56 shoots it at the cop car and they're all like yeah as soon as it blows up it really felt like I love the news station that's called hardcore and it just shows like skinned bodies on the like at like one o'clock PM
Starting point is 00:10:12 on a Wednesday what movie is that Nightcrawler Nightcrawler is basically like a sequel to this movie basically Morton Downey Jr is he related to Robert Donny Jr. I don't think so. I think Robert Downey Jr. would probably be like in the family, but Morton Downey Jr. Yeah. Are you talking about the news host
Starting point is 00:10:34 named Tony? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my God. Amazing. This guy this guy's like, okay, we've got six more bodies. Everyone is completely dead. Victims. We've got five gang members and one good cop. But that's like a classic like like shock jock like me he was that for a long time he had a
Starting point is 00:10:56 like a few talk shows and stuff that he had to resign from because he like he would like post the other competing this jockey's like phone phone number like home phone on the air
Starting point is 00:11:09 and like calling his wife a fat bitch or whatever and then like yeah like he was he was kind of an asshole but like this is the real life guy He's, like, playing himself, basically, in the movie.
Starting point is 00:11:22 He's kind of notorious in California because he was, like, a pro-life guy in the 80s, like, when Roe v. Wade was, like, a new thing. And he, like, tried to run for president. He was bombing. He was, like, bombing abortion clinics. Not almost, like, kind of. He was, like, funding, like, the pro-life council and, like, students, like, all these, like, like like propped groups or whatever to like you know yeah raise shit on campus you know
Starting point is 00:11:56 like some pretty like I don't know pretty modern shit now but Danny Glover must have loved punching him in the face oh my god yeah absolutely I mean he's just an asshole all the way through and amazing casting by the way because like the guy really sells it he like brings his eight game yeah oh absolutely incredible casting Bill Paxton is so hot you would have to be an idiot not to think so I think his teeth are too crazy in this movie his teeth are going out of here hessa his teeth are like scary
Starting point is 00:12:26 you know his like crazy 80s veneers that he has in this yes I'm sorry you're just you're being very y'all are both being very judgmental and not understanding of what beauty is he is cute he is cute but I would not like I would ghost him after
Starting point is 00:12:44 what's his big movie I would rather his big biggest movie i mean he was in aliens too playing pretty much the same character actually i mean more scared in aliens he's like less competent i guess in that movie he was in a bunch of they have more cocaine yeah he's in a ton of yeah yeah he was like huge i just can't think of out the top of my head um but the the the main cast we got danny glover is like the main detective that his crew is made up of maria conchita alonzo queen who
Starting point is 00:13:18 has the most dyke-ass haircut on the planet. Max said she looked like she got stuck at the salon and never came out until asleep. Sorry, she looks like that that lesbian cop, Dominican cop
Starting point is 00:13:32 that Ben is always reposting on Instagram. Yes. Oh, the security guard. Yeah. Yes, yes. That is. That lesbian security guard is so funny.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh my God. My favorite. Yes. Um, but, but obviously like a little bit more cunty. Yeah, yeah. And we have, of course, uh, Ruben Blades, the only actor in this movie, uh, to have a song that was remixed by Ricardo Villalobos.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Yes, yes. Which is a great honor for him. I mean, he's also like, much better known for other better stuff, but yeah, let's. What was his name again? Ruben. Better stuff. Come on. I didn't recognize him.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Ruben what sandwich? Ruben Blades. Dude, Pedro Navajo. The coolest name ever. Dude. Yeah. No, no, no. Plastico.
Starting point is 00:14:22 He's in, he's in Dexter, I think, too. Also playing a cop. Yeah. Yeah. That's probably his, the best thing he's ever done is being in Dexter. Yes. Is he in Dexter? Is that the same guy?
Starting point is 00:14:33 Oh, my God. Yes. Oh, my God. He's like walking dead stuff as well. He's an incredibly racist movie with Joe Pesci. Called Predator 2? No, well. I love the subtext in the, oh, go ahead, John.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Well, called The Super Isn't another really crazy movie It's the fact that he's in both of these It's Joe Pesci as a slum lord Forced to live at the slum Would it surprise you to believe that this guy was also in The Two Jakes Another favorite of ours
Starting point is 00:15:03 Of course he's in The Two Jakes Yeah, he plays the mob boss guy Yeah, Mickey Nice! Yep Yeah, I love it The Listen to Max, the episode of Max's podcast Where we discuss the Two Jakes in death Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:15:18 More on that. Yes. Yes. Max has a podcast. Oh, my God. Let's not get into it. Oh, no. It's not movie mindset.
Starting point is 00:15:25 I'll tell you what. Yeah. Y'all go check out the drain. Max has been working so hard to drain guys and talk about his experience of draining them. Yes. Yes. We have gone on Sniffies in the governor's mansion and, you know, the capital and stuff. No takers yet, but there are a few.
Starting point is 00:15:47 gay guys givers if you yes wait wait if I'm understanding this right you left us for other faggots you're in the white house I'm not barely let's focus on the movie it's a whole thing we'll tell you later
Starting point is 00:16:03 yeah so yeah Ruben Blades is in a lot of shit but he's also in Predator 2 which is a movie we watched the plot of this movie is that there are two gangs that are fighting the Scorpio's, which are Colombian,
Starting point is 00:16:20 and the Jamaican voodoo posies. The Scorpios have gold attachets filled with cocaine that they do the biggest amount of coke. It's like the most racist way to do coke. He gets it all over his nose and goes, ah, at one point, one of them is shot, and it takes a handful of cocaine and just puts it on the wound,
Starting point is 00:16:43 which I'm like, I guess that would numb it maybe a little bit. but another one like opens a gold Faberge egg and just does Coke out of that which was very confusing to me. It was a scorpion. It was a scorpion. It was a gold Faberge scorpion. It was like an ancient idol, I thought.
Starting point is 00:17:04 But that also makes sense. It's kind of crazy like that first intro scene because it does, it's a movie that does expect you to know a lot of the lore because there's no formal introduction to the... Is Predator One the same way? Yes, that's what I... Also, one of the things I love about this movie
Starting point is 00:17:26 and Predator, the first Predator, is that they don't... They really, like, keep the Predator's backstory, and, like, they keep it very obscured. Like, you don't know anything about really the predator except that he's an alien. He's there to hunt people. And he's indestructible, basically.
Starting point is 00:17:44 And he keeps trophies, yeah. and he's like hard to kill and that's like it that's all you need to know though for this movie um it's really beautiful and basically oh my god jock jacques just answered the phone why do you answer the phone when we're recording because it's coming up on my computer and i can't like i don't have it just press ignore how's that my mom will be in like some why don't you press ignore next time call and like we'll get another call on the home phone and then another call and then like you know whatever um your mom's ever get a lot of calls period um the uh the uh the but like basically the predator hops in and starts fucking both of the gangs up yeah and the cops are like
Starting point is 00:18:34 what some someone or something is killing everyone um and the feds come in and they're like cops please stop investigating uh you know uh armand asante is like i don't know the president of the police or something i'm like he's a military president or something is that is that is that it yeah you know who the hottest guy in this movie was was the um the captain oh um uh kent kent something the like the other i thought it was james woods is it not james woods no it wasn't james woods no is james woods in this fucking movie no he's not in this movie okay then who the fuck was that i think you might be thinking of armandesante the guy with the sunglasses yeah yeah yeah that's armanda sante he looks like if
Starting point is 00:19:26 james woods and um Sylvester Stallone fucked and had her yeah beautiful baby wait do none of us even noticed that Adam Baldwin was in there uh not a real Baldwin so I don't really care Yeah, not a real Baldwin, so he's a pretender. I don't acknowledge him. I don't, he's non-canon. Non-canon-canon Baldwin. If he dies, he dies. But basically, the Predators there, and Danny Glover has to fight the Predator.
Starting point is 00:19:56 I also love the subtext in this movie that you got to be a brother to understand the predator. You've got to be black or else. I didn't think it was really interesting this series. the predator who also has dreadlocks fighting Jamaican guys with dreadlocks I was like are they trying to do something here? Yeah, I mean
Starting point is 00:20:18 the design of the original predator was based on like a Rasta warrior that Joel Silver had a painting of in his office which I... Yes. Yeah. Oh, I want to see this painting. Can you Google it? What a coat head move to have that painting. Yeah, I'll try to see if I can find it.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Imagine being the guy who's like who sees that at some fuck-ass flea market in in jamaica it's like i gotta fucking have this i got it's fucking peak wood dude doing a crazy amount of coke like a glass desk just like oh oh uh putting putting glass on it so you don't scratch it up with your razor when you're cutting up the coke lines that this is like yeah yeah this is like a predator of me cutting cutting lines like you're at a brisk you know they have They have, uh, they have, uh, Betty, um, Betty Davis is like personal nightstand, vanity stand that's made all of mirrors on display right now in a museum. And there's lines in it where they point out and they're like, that's where she used to do cocaine. Hell yeah. Oh, period. I love that. I, I, I, I wish that there was more shit like that in like public archives. I wanted to see about like the queen smoking a blunt. You know what I mean? I want to see shit about, you know, like, you know, like,
Starting point is 00:21:38 I want to see I want to see show about Chris Andrew and what he was up to This movie is like The gang war is kind of positioned as like cocaine versus weed
Starting point is 00:21:53 And those are the two sides Of the gang war The only two drugs really Yeah Yeah And obviously The weed you said this movie is insane Yeah
Starting point is 00:22:03 I smoke a lot of weed But these Jamaicans are smoking like mythical level looking giant joints all the time. What does Danny Glover tell him? You got to cut down. You guys got to cut down. Danny Glover,
Starting point is 00:22:20 the Jamaicans drive, the Jamaicans drive Danny Glover to a meeting with King Willie, who's like the head, the head of the Jamaican gang. And when like that car is so smoky, you know Danny Glover was high as fuck when he got out of that car.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, should have been, but that motherfucker is so cold. He got out that car. Yeah, he's ice cold. Ice clear, you know? Mm-hmm. Yeah, crystal. I mean, could you imagine, though, being high and having that meeting with King Willie?
Starting point is 00:22:52 I would kill myself, dude. Yeah, I couldn't deal with it. King Willie's like, something from the other side is coming to get you. Fuck. And his outfit is hot. Like, everything in this movie is actually so fashion. King Willie? Like, it, yes, King.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Willie has this silver chest plate that stops below his neck and he's got just like it's a swagger that could not be replicated today. I thought it was like a giant chest piece like a like a yeah it's
Starting point is 00:23:23 like a crusader is like curious no no no but like a pendant like hanging from his neck like a big ass sleeve of sleeve style like cut out of afric did my thing did I get my shit from like one torrent dot com whatever or like Did I guess my shit from some place?
Starting point is 00:23:39 It's like way too bootleg? Is it not a cutout of like the shape of the African continent? I thought that was fucking crazy. I read online that his chestplate was a reused prop from the movie The Vindicator. Okay. So and also let's just clarify something. The Jamaican gang is actually called the voodoo posse. I am not making this one.
Starting point is 00:24:03 That's a killer band name. mm-hmm it truly is and they would make the worst ska music you've ever heard in your life oh my god it would be all white people don't get me wrong it would be all white yeah one black guy playing the moroccas or something it's a band that already exists it's called my son the elephant or whatever yeah it's a band that already exists they're called jimmy eat world yes yes period teach these um devils take so basically they uh they you know the predator's on the loose he's fucking shit up um he can turn invisible let's go over the predator's powers yes okay he can turn invisible um he can breathe really loudly and watch people
Starting point is 00:24:50 in thermal vision and then when he's watching people in thermal vision he's listening to them and he's like mimicking their voices yes especially throughout the movie which was i don't remember him being able to do that i want a piece of candy he does that in um In Predator 1, he does that. Ooh, a piece candy. When they take his mask off at one point later in the movie, and he goes, Madarfucker. Yeah, that's a call back to Predator 1, because when Arnold Schwarzenegger takes his mask off,
Starting point is 00:25:21 he says, you are one ugly motherfucker. And in this movie, Danny Glover tries to say that, but the predator wakes up and grabs him by the neck and goes, motherfucker. That scared me. That shit scared me. This movie's so aesthetic. though the blood is like the brat neon green he's wearing like a a fucking mesh like tank top like you know he's got like a lot of jewelry on i mean it kind of reminds me of the people today i did also
Starting point is 00:25:47 enjoy the the aesthetic choice of doing some scenes in false color like i thought that was really fucking cool like the um like for context i guess the predator can only see in like certain wavelengths like not uh light yeah uh not visible light but like ultraviolet or infrared or infrared red so that means that they have to like wear special suits to like hide their like body heat and stuff um and they wear like thermal cameras and stuff but like how they like show uh oh he's like switching the um like the filters or whatever and the switching between filters yeah that that was amazing i i'm a huge he's pressing left on the d pad he's reaching up behind the console or something yeah yeah yeah um and i lo the the aesthetics
Starting point is 00:26:34 of the Predator are so fucking cool. Like that little thing in the heads-up display that appears on the left when he's viewing people. Oh my God. It's the way that it breaks down the audio into this wave form. It's not even clear if it's audio that it's breaking. It's like something like I love how inscrutable it is. Like all of the Predators like it's a great piece of art. Like a lot of the triumph of this movie is dedicated to like the production team, not necessarily.
Starting point is 00:27:04 really like the actors really well absolutely yeah in in 1990 when you spend 35 million dollars you better get a fucking you better get a fucking banger because that's what they spent on this movie by the way oh my god it's crazy because that's like how much they probably spent on like i don't know what's a shitty like recent movie that's the scarier 61st or something yeah no like uh what's it called the hard feeling the one like the j the jennifer lawrence oh no hard feelings yes yeah yeah yeah they probably spent maybe 60 million dollars on that movie and it's just like filmed on an iPhone inside of uh you know the the Trump Soho hotel or whatever has like for real rotoscoped uh like special effects like real you know uh oh the special effects are cutting edge from the movie the special effects are amazing amazing and I think under sold yeah do you guys um i didn't watch a movie in this era and like of this era film and think wow this is like actually impressed i mean i'm very easily impressed in general but this
Starting point is 00:28:17 it it was blowing me away the way that the the alien kind of camouflage was blending with i thought it would look better than a movie today yeah it really does look i mean like this movie is visually stunning it's it's beautiful and um like i don't i don't know if they did it the same way in this movie. I'm sure they might have done it a little differently. But in the first Predator movie, the way that they did the Invisible Predator is really cool. Basically, they had,
Starting point is 00:28:44 they would film the shots twice, once with no predator in them. And then a second time with someone in a predator suit that was completely matte red. So it was like completely painted red. And then they would chroma key out the predator suit. and the one without the predator in it is filmed with a wider lens
Starting point is 00:29:07 so they would just chroma key out the guy in the red suit and then put the other shot with the wider lens in the background so it was just like it looked like a distorted version of the like the jungle in the background
Starting point is 00:29:22 just in that like outline and it was like really cool and the guy in that predator suit was John Claude Van Damme what? Wait, wearing still. Yeah, this first predator movie. oh what that but he he only in the invisible shots because um he got fired because he was too short
Starting point is 00:29:41 i was gonna say what the fuck like was he was he wearing silk was he was he wearing like a cable harness or something what the fuck um they replaced him with the same guy who plays the predator in this who's seven foot two he was replaced by by tom cruise momentarily before he was truly also fired for yeah yeah Oh, my God. Being a short king. This movie changed my life. Also, I want to throw a little special shout out to someone we didn't mention.
Starting point is 00:30:13 The actor Henry Kingy, who plays El Scorpio, the guy who's running around with the two Uzi's, and the big necklace full of cocaine, long hair. Wow. This guy really gave me maybe a boner, maybe a feeling. Yep. I could fall in love. I saw him killing and I said, yes. Jacques, who, if you had to, if you could have sex with one person in this movie, who would it be?
Starting point is 00:30:38 The female officer, I was really... Wow. Maria Conchita Alonzo? Yes, Leona Conchrelle, what was her name? I'm trying to... Detective Leona... Critical fail speech check. Cantrell.
Starting point is 00:30:52 And you're trying to hit on her. And she, let's just break this down. So let's get a little to the guns for a second. I have to. She had the SIG sour P. 226 with the laser attachment on the bottom I think it matched her hair
Starting point is 00:31:09 and she had silver jewelry on the whole time I was kind of amazed actually she looked good from the very beginning when I saw her I like a short-haired one It's a great service weapon but it won't do a thing against our terrible predator unfortunately we move on and we got the
Starting point is 00:31:26 Sig Sour Pt26 and nickel for Bill Paxton meanwhile our delicious main defense against the predator has the Magnum Research Incorporated Mark 7 Desert Eagle, that beautiful nickel finish with the laser scope attachment Chef's Kiss
Starting point is 00:31:47 period. That's what they point at the cat. Jacques, do you have an idea on the shotgun he uses in the end? Oh, absolutely. I can bring, I'm looking at I have all of my notes right here. Let me grab it right here. So he is using he's using the Benelli M1 Super 9D entry
Starting point is 00:32:06 and he's blowing this guy he's blowing this guy with this shotgun and honestly when he's playing this there's a moment okay
Starting point is 00:32:16 there's a moment where Danny Glover's got the predator in the meat factory and he's got the predator on the meat factory pause
Starting point is 00:32:24 pause bro factory pause pause bro shit Oh, my God. You mean a slaughterhouse?
Starting point is 00:32:35 Yes. The meat factory. Look, I'm going to tell you right now. That is exactly what it is. Yes. It's a Benelli M1 without a stock. So it looks so tiny. It's got the scope on top of it.
Starting point is 00:32:50 I mean, you know, and I love that they put this blue light effect throughout the slaughterhouse. And it perfectly makes the. The Predators' Blood, which is also green, like the aliens, stick out in a way that, like, it lights up in the lighting of the dark blue, Colba Blue. It looks like my bedroom when I'm done with a... Period. Eight-hour goon session.
Starting point is 00:33:18 Am I right, sister? Am I right? That's, you put the goo in goon session, if you know what I mean. That is, yeah. Goonies. And I'm a predator in many other... Not perhaps in Los Angeles, but on Snapchat, maybe. Period.
Starting point is 00:33:34 A period. Can I, can I, can I, I, I would like to just really quickly give a, just one quick, an honorable mention from the guns featured in this movie is this Steyer-Og-A-1, an expensive rifle coming out at the very first scene, which from the Colombians, and shooting back at them, we've got a heckler and Koch, AK-9-1, A-2, with the police holding that I was like damn they just got everything God bless the Second Amendment
Starting point is 00:34:04 actually excuse me that was the Colombians that had that I mean I think even the most interesting gun feature in this movie is the Ruger AC556K which is used by the Jamaican gangsters without a stock I mean it's a gun you don't see
Starting point is 00:34:20 often why would you why would you say that Ruger is so interesting because it as far as I can recall doesn't use like any crazy like um like um like um like it's not like lever action operated or whatever it's not like roller blowback delayed uh what makes it so interesting okay with the wooden finish that you would see kind of like on an AK 47 that uh takes up most of the stock with that combined
Starting point is 00:34:55 you know, metal finish on the side. It's something that you don't see in like the later 70s, 80s sub-machine guns past. They're all black. You know. Yeah, it's kind of a... Talk about DDI.I... Shut.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Okay, okay. Oh! I'm like, I gotta go! Instead of pause. Stop. Okay, wait. I'm just to confirm, I am including a picture
Starting point is 00:35:21 of the gun that I'm talking about right now into the chat and so take a look at this gun and i mean we maybe can make this the clip i think the gun that has the greatest honors in this film is the gun at the very end which we'll talk about when we get to it but um i think just to go back to a few specific scenes we've got um i think my favorite scene in this movie is the the subway scene um max if you know uh you know about, you know Ball about California. Is that really what the L.A. subway system looks like? It is
Starting point is 00:35:59 well, see, here's the thing, right? This movie was made in 1990 and L.A. did not have a subway until after this movie premiered as far as I'm concerned. So, I mean, then again, this is set in 1997 so maybe, but it does not
Starting point is 00:36:15 look anything like this. I think they are basing it off of San Francisco's Bart which is not a subway system that is could be used in LA because like the system was designed specifically for like
Starting point is 00:36:30 San Francisco and not like LA. Anyway. Yeah. The subway sequence is so sick. Also not as loud inside. It should be like a million decibels louder if it's based on the bar. Because that motherfucker is loud
Starting point is 00:36:46 inside. Even when you go like from one set of debate to the other. That shit is not nice. period. Yeah, anyway, sorry. I love, I mean, that scene, obviously the Slaughterhouse scene with the, you know, the UV lights that are, and all the dust floating around, you know, and like, but the, you know, there's a lot of sick shots in this movie and sick sequences. The sea, I, but let's, let's talk about the politics of this movie. It's a very politically charged film, obviously.
Starting point is 00:37:20 It is very James Woodsy in, I think. Yeah, yeah. It's got some of those elements to it. That's why I expected him to be in the movie in the first place because it's like... Yeah. Yeah, very much his style. Everybody's crazy.
Starting point is 00:37:35 All the bang minorities in our cities. Yeah, yeah. How long was I muted for? Good Lord. Oh, my God. On purpose? I've just been saying, no, not at all. I didn't even.
Starting point is 00:37:47 I just was trying to say something. And I was like, why do they keep it? ignoring me. Well, I was like the subway scene was so cool. It was almost unwatchable because of the amount of flashing and strobing to show that kind of like
Starting point is 00:38:04 when the subway goes dark. Who's the pussy now? Who's the pussy now? Oh, shut up. I was already twisted off of the marijuana watching that movie and it was the, my lights were off and it started thundering and hailing.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Oh, my God. I'm not joking. 40 minutes ago, it was hailing while that was happening. It's very shocking. Okay, y'all can go. I'm sorry. When you were watching that scene 40 minutes ago, and that scene takes place with 53 minutes left in the movie, to be clear.
Starting point is 00:38:35 Well, I meant like an hour ago or two, you know, don't you dare. We've been recording for 36 minutes. Oh, Christ. Oh, give me a break, you junkies. But, yeah, there's a lot of, like, funny little details in the movie that are very co-kehead-like. Like, the Jamaican connection is insane. I only realized that later because the director is, I think, born in Jamaica, like, raised elsewhere. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:39:03 Yeah. Stephen Hopkins was born there. So. Is he white? He is a white fella, if it'll surprise you to believe. Oh, my God. He's a white, he's a bleached bombcloth batty. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:19 He was white boy. summer in 19 or sorry 1990 he also did a nightmare on elm street five the dream child that's how he got this job right is that the gay one yeah yeah yeah and he did the 1998 adaptation of lost in space period how do we forget a terrible movie um i thought that was an awesome movie don't try to get me into saying okay the um but the like politically yeah the the the the the the the the the the a lot going on i mean the first the first predator movie is basically like the u.s is like evil and they're sending these guys in and what if the jungle was like what if the jungle literally attacked them that's like a line in the movie is that um the girl that's with them is like the jungle came alive and killed him and like they keep talking about that because he is invisible he blends into the jungle and you know he does have a very you know non-white kind of aesthetic to him the predator I think you know like it is he is designed to have dreadlocks and such yeah um so it is kind
Starting point is 00:40:31 of like what is the scariest thing to the US and it's like that's what it is it's a race yeah it's a you know a predator aka a really tall black guy who's like part of the jungle and attacks them and the you know in this movie it's kind of like that is like the predator is kind of like the personification of like what if like the ultimate killer is loose in the city you know they're literally it's almost like let's put
Starting point is 00:41:06 the ethnics versus the ultimate ethnic an alien from outer space with dreads yeah and you know you've got these different you know uh this it's much more like socially kind of socially focused than the first predator movie where it's just like the jungle and by the end it's just Arnold Schwarzenegger and he has to use like sticks and rocks to fight a predator yeah the first one is a lot more like Zardaz in that way yeah yeah and it's yeah and by the end like it's Arnold Schwarzenegger like it has to fight like a gorilla who is like in the jungle and against something that has technology that is a thousand times better
Starting point is 00:41:50 than anything he has. It's like what is the worst possible nightmare for like a U.S. Special Forces Commando? It's like them being the people that they're hunting, basically. That's their worst nightmare. Well, I want to tell you a big difference between predator one, prior to two. And Prater one, I was voting for the Predator. And Predator 2, I was voting for Danny Glover because I wanted him to live. the predator.
Starting point is 00:42:15 Yeah, you are like Danny Glover is awesome in this movie and you do, you are wanting him to live and it seems like even the other predators want him to win.
Starting point is 00:42:24 He's trying to avenge the death of his fellow detective Danny boy. Of his boyfriend. Is that a gay? Yeah. Do you think they had sex? They do hold hands on the roof
Starting point is 00:42:36 at one point. I ship them. I ship them 100%. Yeah. Ed, What's her name? The female cop. Leona.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Leona. She's pregnant. It's never explained whose baby it is. Or why we should care. Like, yeah. I mean, pretty much, like,
Starting point is 00:43:01 by the end of this movie, the last like 40 or so minutes of this movie, they're basically like, all right, enough gang shit. Enough with everyone else in the movie. It's time for the predator
Starting point is 00:43:11 to fuck up a bunch of people. It's like, Be set loose, basically. Oh, Gary Busey gets just so fucked up in that goddamn slaughterhouse. He gets cut in half. He stands here. He slides over after he's almost been killed with a missing tooth and goes, I'm going to get him. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:43:30 Starts firing his, like, air blaster, like an upside-down keyboard cleaner. Oh, I just remembered. Yeah, the predator, like, scans her. so I was like trying to remember like what the fuck happened in that scene anyway where we find out that she's pregnant because there's no context right like there's no like there had never been like a little um uh you know like a a little reminder earlier on she has no romantic interest no romantic interest in the movie at all no mention of like oh I'm missing my period or whatever or like oh you're PMSing well actually for your information
Starting point is 00:44:08 my shit's like three months late uh nothing It's just like That's such a gay guy idea Of what a woman would say To a guy Who's their BMSing For your information My shit's three months late
Starting point is 00:44:21 Auntie Listen I'm playing it Like I feel it right And if I was a pregnant woman I would say yeah My shit My shit is three months late I'm
Starting point is 00:44:32 Can we just stop talking about The president What do you want Can we just stop talking about Prender 2 And just talk about If you were a pregnant woman I have been
Starting point is 00:44:40 thinking a lot about empeg. Because Jacques's getting hard. I'm like, oh my God. Yeah, I can see the picture of you kind of crying in a soft light that's a portrait of you naked with the big belly. No, I like the M-Preg videos that's like, it's two guys, it's AI generated, and one of them's like very pregnant, like alarmingly pregnant. And, you know, his, his, his, uh, hunk, a husband or partner i presume um it comes up behind them and they pat the belly oh he's kicking me right here can you feel it because of course you're having a boy um yeah no no girls allowed in this tree house yeah yeah yeah and imagine being two gay guys and one of them like in an mpreg thing and you give birth out your butt or whatever and it's a girl no you destroy your penis like that
Starting point is 00:45:29 that shit is popping your entire shit like a zit yeah that thing's coming out it is dr pimple popper up Like there's cloaca. It's bad enough when you have to push a kidney stone out that tiny tube. Yeah. A baby? Yeah. A real life baby. No surrogate.
Starting point is 00:45:46 Yeah. Those are amazing. My Instagram has been plagued by them lately. By lately, I mean like the last year. You mean because you keep saving a naked gay pregnant. I keep saving it and sending them to my friend John. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:04 you do i it's not surprising i'm still looking for that amazing there's one video that was like where the where the baby slides of the asshole no no the one um what do you what which one what oh the video that max uploaded where the guy's getting fisted and then a baby doll squirts out of his yes that is classic yeah yeah yeah i'm my favorite is the one where the camera's pointing up at the ceiling and you see a guy like squatting like kind of scurry over the camera and then he crouches down a little bit and his erect cock flops out of his own butthole yes it's like really really looped up and wet you're not looking up at the camera he is walking into the into the bathroom at a hotel probably some
Starting point is 00:46:52 some disgusting cum dump that he's gone to to get bread in or something and uh it's probably a ramata yeah yes definitely a romata and because you can tell it because they use the the Formica bathroom tiles and those are awful looking so it is almost like
Starting point is 00:47:10 you're looking at the ceiling but he's actually just like kneeling on the like toilet on the tub and he's
Starting point is 00:47:19 walked into the room with his balls tucked in his ass so that is probably the more impressive thing about the whole thing yeah
Starting point is 00:47:28 yeah that he can strut his stuff yeah Max keeps checking behind his him to make sure his parents aren't. No, yeah, because I do not want to have this conversation with my mother about,
Starting point is 00:47:40 why is it talking about balls and M-M-Preg? Is that? No, they know. They know. Yeah. But basically, this movie ends with the Predator being defeated. The Predator gets its arm cut off in probably a nod to, what's his name? Star Wars.
Starting point is 00:48:02 Carl Weather is getting his arm cut off in Predator 1. Yes, but not all the way. Not all the way. Yes. Not this time. It was kind of, okay, let's just discuss the really quick sequence of events. What happens? The alien gets his arm cut off and chases Danny Glover to the roof.
Starting point is 00:48:21 They're fighting to the near death. Danny Glover almost falls off of the ledge. So does the alien. The alien's weapon is a disc with holes in it. the fit your fingers like a bowling ball but a disc blade. Danny Glover unwedges it from the wall at the last minute chops off
Starting point is 00:48:39 the arm that is about to self detonate to the size of something like 300 football fields. I think has mentioned how big the bomb would have blown off that he cuts off the arm at the weapon point right before
Starting point is 00:48:55 it blows up. The alien predator falls down into the bathroom across the fucking street. I love the display of the, again, the beautiful aesthetics of the predator, the display of like the way the numbers look is like crazy.
Starting point is 00:49:15 And also that's how Predator One ends with the predator losing and in a coward's bid for like a coward's failure detonates itself and like basically levels the entire jungle, which I feel like is a very, cheap that that kind of hints towards a very americanness of the of that predator you know um kind of like in and in this movie i do think that that comes back a little bit where it's like um you know the i feel like the other predators are like it's a bad look
Starting point is 00:49:48 to just blow yourself up like that if you're you know if you just because you're losing um and yeah i i do love um but like yeah Danny Glover like the Predator goes into a bathroom and this couple is watching Jeopardy. The answer to the Jeopardy question is Richard the first, because I looked it up. That is asked. I don't remember what the question was. I do remember hearing that out loud. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:16 The, and basically, like, they're like, oh, predators just go to wherever there's, like, heat and conflict. Because this is also a sweaty movie. Like, this is one of the sweatiest movies. Well, they do. explain that the creature tries to seek places that are hot and
Starting point is 00:50:36 violent, which is why he shows up in Central America at some point. They were also mentioned at the beginning of the movie that L.A. was going through a heat wave. Yes. Yeah, a hundred and everybody was a scowarton all over each other. Everyone's squirting.
Starting point is 00:50:53 Danny Glover has squirt all over his face for a lot of the movie. He looks like he's been erased. I thought it was so cool looking when the predators in the bathroom and he opens up his like first aid kit that he pulls out of his asshole
Starting point is 00:51:08 which oh my god yes and then he then does this weird thing where he starts breaking the mirror of the bathroom in front of him and the wall and then he takes pieces of rocks and puts them in a mini satellite dish
Starting point is 00:51:24 looking metal bowl which he then pours a glowing blue liquid on top of it then it turns into a jelly and then he rubs it on his wounds why did you turn into a burger king foot lettuce uh at the end of that it turned it to a jelly sorry um i did also see the movie i thought it was amazing uh he yeah he shut up i saw the movie i watched the no i'm i'm trying to say that i saw the movie as i'm trying to to deflect back from me bullying you but I do love the predator doing medical shit on it
Starting point is 00:52:06 I think there's a scene like that in the first movie as well but like that is always like and that's such a cocaine idea of like what if the predator because they're so advanced all they got to do they just need some material but it's always a cool scene they just mix it with a goop it's a cool scene in any movie yeah I want anything glowing green or anything glowing Ronin when
Starting point is 00:52:30 Yes Yes I was thinking of Not cool runnings Bruce Stern in Running something What is it Running scared
Starting point is 00:52:39 No not running scared Oh fuck Midnight run No midnight run Fuck he's in a fucking Spaceship The running man Not the running man
Starting point is 00:52:48 Fuck you I'm gonna have to look it up Hang on Run DMC He's not in run DMC It's silent running Is it Yeah silent running
Starting point is 00:52:58 Oh, the The submarine movie Kind of, yeah He's not deep underwater But he's actually high up in space Oh, the 1962 movie The Loneliness of Long Distance Runner? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:53:15 Yeah, the loneliness of the long distance runner That's what you're thinking of Max. Yes, that is absolutely it And also silent running With Bruce Dern and a bunch of little people In metal questions, yeah. by the way honorable mention to the movie blade runner yes yeah a lot of the
Starting point is 00:53:33 a lot of this movie really really invokes blade runner in the you know the the look of it they're really like especially the police station all the monitors you know well actually no I was gonna say something really stupid you're right you're right I was gonna say they probably base this off of demolition man but that shit no I think
Starting point is 00:53:53 I think you're actually right I do think it's actually like I'm not kidding. I wouldn't be surprised if they had the same. I'm actually going to look it up right now. It's a prequel to Demolition Man. It's a canonical prequel. I've never seen Demolation Man. No, wait. Wait, Max. That actually makes perfect sense because Demolition Man, if you, do you remember how it opens? I do remember how it opens. The future year, the future year
Starting point is 00:54:15 1997. Whoa. And L.A. is a gang ravaged Hellscape. No, wrong. It's 2032. No, Jock, shut up. You're wrong? Because it actually starts, it actually starts in 1997, in the future year of 1997, and then he gets frozen for 27 years, and then it's 2032.
Starting point is 00:54:37 He gets frozen for 36 years? Okay. I'm gonna look it up and he's, and he was frozen in what they called the cryo prison. Yep, yep, they put him in the torture chamber. Just a fun fact for all the listening. It was actually 1996, I just looked
Starting point is 00:54:53 it up. Wesley Snipes' character. Simon Phoenix. one year before this you know maybe this is basically where you know uh this is where everything went wrong and they were like okay we've got to create a neutered society yeah and change the name of a murder to a murder death kill and stuff i'll tell you i'll tell you the moment when everything went wrong september 23rd 1992 the second i was born okay period it. Shut the
Starting point is 00:55:22 fuck up, bitch. You're so retarded. I hate you, dumb bitch. Go back to Los Angeles. Oh my God. It's the same it's literally
Starting point is 00:55:35 the same production designer as Blade Runner. Is it really? Wow. No shit. Okay, no wonder it's so good. Yeah, I'm going to check the art director too.
Starting point is 00:55:45 I want to know what they, what the public's opinion is is through the Rotten Tomato Lens. Oh, the art director did The Cell. Oh, I love this. How did this only get 44%? 30% on the tomato meat.
Starting point is 00:55:58 They just don't even know what they're raining. They don't know. They don't know. The cell's pretty good. They don't know it. They're always given 98% to the worst fucking movies. Yeah. I can't wait.
Starting point is 00:56:09 I can't wait. They can't hate. You know that, who's that critic in the Times? or like New York one maybe that like just cannot hate a movie. Yeah. Pocahontas.
Starting point is 00:56:24 Cannot hate a movie. Who? Oh, um, what's his name? Sydney Johannesburg. Yes. Not Richard Brody, right? No, because Richard Brody has some, some dope takes where he hates me. Yeah, I don't think it's Richard Brody. But yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:41 Oh, you're talking about acclaimed critic Grape Johnson? No. But he does have like a weenie. name. Oh, I'll see if I can remember. It's not worth to remember it. It's not worth it. Gary Busey's amazing in this movie. That's the final, that's the bottom line. He makes a lot of those iconic Gary Bucy faces when he's angry and his whole teeth. And he's kind of mid-ing growling. So wait, can you
Starting point is 00:57:08 explain to me what kind of accident he had that he got a TBI? I didn't know this. He had a motorcycle accident and he got a TBI. Pussy. And he became brain damaged. yeah um but the um basically the way this movie ends is the um like danny glover and the predator face off in the predator's ship okay and the predator's ship really looks like um the jared letto's office and blade runner 2049 kind of yeah real quick detail he's chasing the predator throughout this building right before he gets the ship he's then falling through a elevator then the elevator's about to fall on him and then he releases his hands into a dark hole and all he goes is ah and you see his body fall into the darkness all of a sudden they show like him standing up on the ship and the ship it looks like the size of seven buildings i think they cut that scene well you see the ship from the outside after i think um yeah and but i do love like you have no idea why the ship is there
Starting point is 00:58:14 or why they're nine other predators there they know why it's there it's there because there's a meat factory like two floors above it yeah yeah yeah yeah i think in my mind in my head canon the other predators came there because this predator was like going to was bawling too hard and was like about to be on the movie maybe he was like too ghetto maybe he was like uh yeah like the equivalent of parking outside of walmart or something yeah and the other predators were like all right we got to go back and get this guy because he's like fucking shit up and then danny glover kills him and the other predators all appear played by the
Starting point is 00:58:49 1989 and they dab him up Lakers yeah and they literally they dab him up this big like cooler
Starting point is 00:58:57 predator is like he literally stands up and puts his gun down and goes okay what do you guys want to do now no yeah he says okay
Starting point is 00:59:06 who's next and then the the guy hands him a flintlock pistol with a name like engraved on it and he's like here's your gift you killed a predator congrats and um i kind of
Starting point is 00:59:23 read that as because the year on the flitnlock pistol was 1715 so in my mind that the a predator took out the um that Spanish armada of treasure galleons that was uh sunk that bankrupted the spanish empire because all of their treasures got sunk by a storm well didn't it say like 17 14 or something? 1715, yeah. Yeah, that was a very, I'm bringing up that gun, the name of that actual gun, by the way.
Starting point is 00:59:53 But I feel like, yeah, they put that in there because they're like, this is, we're going to do a prequel. And I don't know, they might have. They did. They did. I would have loved, wait, they do a prequel set in that early days. Yeah, it's called Prey.
Starting point is 01:00:07 And it's about two fur trappers, two Native American fur trappers fighting the French fur trappers in the Northern Canada. It is kind of a piece of shit. I am told I haven't seen it. So I really want to see the new, there's a new one coming out too
Starting point is 01:00:26 with L. Fanning in it, right? Is there? Yeah, she plays like the top half of an Android torso. Yes. And the pistol that's handed to him is a Michelet Locke Pistor. It's a Dinnix, Catalonian replica pistol.
Starting point is 01:00:43 And it was produced by Keystone arsenal replicas and I think it's interesting that they were, it's an 18th century gun and they're saying that it was featured in 17th century. I mean, come on. I have a keystone. I think that is exactly how they work.
Starting point is 01:00:59 I have a keystone replica pistol. No, no, no, but that is exactly how the century's workshop. That is. Yeah, yeah. What do you mean? The 1700s are the 18th century. Yeah. Because the first century is the zero hundreds of. Yeah. That's why we're in the 21st century, even though I just
Starting point is 01:01:15 on this out yesterday. That's why I'm being gentle. Are you serious? No. No. I've known this for a long last time. I've never known this. Fuck y'all. I'm being very basic knowledge. I'm being gentle because I'm not Ben. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:32 If you were Ben, we would have a 10 minute digression about this right now. We would call like a family member and ask, hey, so like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I also honorable mention from when Gary Busey is confronting Danny Glover inside the all-red trailer, the HQ of like the FBI kind of like team in charge of tracking this alien down.
Starting point is 01:02:02 And he's like, stay take your big nose and keep it out of my business. He's a normal size nose. Yeah, Danny Glover has a very normal nose. I bet it was a Gary, Gary Busey, a Jerry Lewis. Jerry Lewis did an uncredited rewrite. That's amazing. No, maybe it's like one of those things because like they had other people considered to be the lead role for this, right?
Starting point is 01:02:34 Yeah, I think Stephen Segal. I read it was Patrick Shwezy. Yes. Yeah, Patrick Shwezy, Stephen Segal. Steven Seagal in that weed in that weed scene Holy Holy
Starting point is 01:02:44 Chills dude chills Just thinking about it What's that movie where What's the movie where he goes to Jamaica And like kills a bunch of Jamaicans I think Is there one where he's like in Alaska And he's like defending penguins
Starting point is 01:03:00 Oh yes That's um That's on deadly ground That's genuinely a good movie Genuinely good Yes And he tells it He tells a white guy to sit his white ass down.
Starting point is 01:03:12 By the way, so they were saying, y'all, they had the hardest scenes filming all of the scenes shot in the alleyways, particularly the scene where they were filming between Danny Glover meeting King Willie. Apparently, it was so much garbage that while they were filming it, a crew member was backing up and knocked something over and found a dead body. Holy shit. Then, so then it took a few days. fix that up. When the crew came back, all of the neighbors in the neighborhood had to call
Starting point is 01:03:44 Ray Donovan. Wait, listen up. Listen up. That all the neighbors in the neighborhood had put bags of dog shit in brown paper bags scattered throughout the trash. So the alleyway people are walking. So they threw away dog poop? No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:04:01 They added extra bags of dog shit all over scattered where they were filming so they would step in dog shit. Okay. They should have just thrown them at them. Wouldn't that make more sense? Well, no, but that's too confrontational. It's better.
Starting point is 01:04:15 It is more SoCal to just like. Oh, actually, I'm reading it back. They were throwing paper bags filled with feces from the windows. So they were just throwing them up. Oh, so they were doing that. Wow. That is more credit than I, that I cared to give them. The, um, okay. So the Steven Seagall movie where he fights Jamaicans is called Marked for Death.
Starting point is 01:04:37 It's from the same year. And in this one, they do explain in this one, apparently. It says, Jamaican drug dealers led by screwface, using a combination of fear and obeah, a Jamaican syncretic religion of West African and Caribbean origin similar to Haitian voodoo and Santa Ria. Okay, that kind of makes sense. So in that movie, they, in the Stevens-A-Gal movie, they're like, okay, this isn't voodoo, but it's similar.
Starting point is 01:05:04 Let's explain it. And in this one, they're like, fuck it. It's just voodoo. Who cares? which is funny to me um but yeah i really um maybe that's why i love this movie yeah yeah he quit because they didn't teach it they didn't treat the subject with enough reverence he was probably like i want to play a monk i want to play a priest who's doing this fighting the predator and i want to i want to have a fist fight with them at the end yes yes um yeah
Starting point is 01:05:34 and no one can die that's like a stephen seagall last request is like my character no one can die throughout the movie oh fuck yeah Gary Beasie amazing Danny Glover he tour
Starting point is 01:05:49 is Danny Glover she tour oh okay I wanted to also mention this this is the scene where they go to the ship and the predator and Danny Glover discovers the trophy case of skulls
Starting point is 01:06:01 they see a xenomorph skull inside the and this is the first time that the Predator and Aliens universe crossed over and which would later become canon. Oh, cross over, crossed over. Yeah, well, the Alien versus Predator movies
Starting point is 01:06:21 are not canon for the Alien franchise, but they are canon for the Predator franchise, I think, if I recall correctly. And the new one is going to be a crossover of both because it's El Fanning plays like a Wayland-Utani android who's missing, who's just a torso. Predator Badlands. That's the name of the worst gay...
Starting point is 01:06:44 Sorry, it's like... There's two gay clubs, so it's like the second best gay club in Sacramento. Badlands. Oh, okay. The worst. Sorry, second best really. What's the best one?
Starting point is 01:06:55 The best one is the depot, but only because it actually has glory holes in the bathroom. Badlands does not. Oh, period. And you can score a good fish scale if you're there on a good day. At the depot.
Starting point is 01:07:10 At Batlands, they do not let you do that. It's frowned upon. Yeah, but yeah, the Predator's face is really scary. It looks like a giant spater. If you're racist, I thought it was cool. I don't think. Because it was Jamaican. The face is not Jamaican of the Predator.
Starting point is 01:07:35 I don't think. The face is like... What do you mean? What do you mean? Explain yourself. I don't know. It doesn't look... It's not human.
Starting point is 01:07:42 It looks like a giant... Listen, I'm colorblind. I don't see color. It's not a problem for me. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. This is a really good movie, though. I think this movie has a worse reputation than it deserves.
Starting point is 01:08:01 I mean, the politics are inscrutable and like crazy. Probably for the best. yeah yeah i mean you can't make a movie like this nowadays you can't do it people aren't brave enough yeah people aren't brave enough to do actually i don't think so i think i think they have enough they did it i think to prove a point and to like pointedly do this but now it's it's they have so many they have such a diverse cast of extras and they they show los angeles to be such a melting pot of a city um yeah i think then it was just to be like Yeah, it's all gang members and thugs.
Starting point is 01:08:38 Yeah, yeah, yeah. No Salvadorans. They got to be Colombian. I have never met a Colombian in California. Really? Actually, I've met one. I guess they're all in Miami. Yeah, they're all in fucking Miami.
Starting point is 01:08:51 It's closer. You got Mexicans. You got your Salvadorans. You got your Nicaraguans. You got your Puerto Ricans. Oh, God. If you're really unlucky, I suppose. Um, yeah, no, but you, you don't got Colombians.
Starting point is 01:09:09 What the hell? You're not Puerto Rican? Or Jamaica. I don't think there's Jamaican gangs. Or Jamaican gang. Yeah, much less than Los Angeles. Maybe New Orleans. Well, I think, I think most Jamaican gangs are in Jamaica, honestly.
Starting point is 01:09:23 Probably 99% of Jamaican gang members are. The Jamaican voodoo posse gangs seen in a film were based on actual gangs that were terrorizing New York City in Kansas City. That is not true, though. I'm reading the fucking trivia. Don't you tell me it's not true. Mind of Jason is one of those. When you first read that trivia piece. Well, listen to this.
Starting point is 01:09:43 It's another thing to just think about. The Jamaicans were not played by actors or stunt people, but real-life bouncers because the director, Stephen Hopkins, said they had to be able to be physically intimidating and die fantastically horribly. They don't show up any of that in the final cut. I think There's a lot of it that's hitting a different I think you must have seen an edited version
Starting point is 01:10:09 Max because I feel like you're missing a lot of scenes A lot of it feels like it's A Jamaican gang called the The shower posse Pause Wait they're called the voodoo posse In the movie But in this
Starting point is 01:10:25 You know In this In this thing we call real life This Oh they're in a brief history of seven killings that's interesting this this
Starting point is 01:10:35 this this this third rock from the sun yeah it's a little lonely here without no predator
Starting point is 01:10:45 now that yeah RIP that of the police kill one well as Danny Glover says in the last
Starting point is 01:10:54 line of the movie they'll get another chance because the predators they come back they're never done for good when they were dapping them up
Starting point is 01:11:02 they were like hey watch out we're going to come back yeah yeah and um i love the last shot of the movie at which is so kind of art house like the last shot is like it's a helicopter but in the lower left corner of the screen and the spotlight of the helicopter is just makes such a weird shape and like it's it's it's just like so like eerie and like weird almost looks like a space it's like a lens flare right yeah yeah yeah yeah and i really love that and i mean it really is like a a visually stunning movie um yeah and it's awesome and i do think that you know it's it's not it's you know it definitely
Starting point is 01:11:47 has its it's redeeming uh it's not as racist as we probably made it out to see no i think it's actually pretty damn racist well yeah yeah yeah but like you know I mean, Danny Glover, I mean, imagine if Danny Glover wasn't the main character. It would be the most racist movie of all. Well, not if it was Stephen Segal. It would be extremely anti-racist. It would have been very woke.
Starting point is 01:12:11 Patrick Swayze, though, that would have been a completely different story. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, if Stephen Seagall was the guy, he would have been walking around like, this motherfucker. Yeah, no, I don't know what kind of brother he would sound the same.
Starting point is 01:12:25 Stephen Seagull is such a fucking idiot. He's been $100,000 in a bulletproof suit. Like, who's shooting you? Who's trying to actively kill you that remembers you? Not me. Who thinks about you daily? I'm going on a little preview for listeners. I'm going on Chopo tomorrow to do a Stephen Seagall movie episode.
Starting point is 01:12:48 That's going to be fun. A little crossover. He kind of used to be my crush. Really? I mean, elementary school, a guy with a gun that had long hair? Sure. He looks like, I don't know, like, what does Steven Seagal even look like? Man without traditional lengths of hair are attractive.
Starting point is 01:13:11 I don't think so. I think they're absolutely across the board less attractive. I think any... I think he's brave and that, that I think is beautiful. I think he's brave for doing everything he's doing. Wasn't he at that big-ass military parade in China recently? Oh, yeah, for sure. He was at that motherfucker?
Starting point is 01:13:32 The Russian government also recently released, like, an official statement that said he is, quote, as heavy as a bear. Hell, yes. Which is sick. What a king. Oh, God. Maybe, like, the only remaining person that can successfully succeed Trump. Yeah, absolutely. We need Segal in here.
Starting point is 01:13:58 and he'll be like we're annexing Chechnya everybody would be like sir yes sir yes I'm ready I'm ready my hole is quivering sir I'm your hoochicoochoochee man sir my whole is quivering oh my whole is quiverin from Buda all right do we have any closing thoughts because I do have to go um yeah I was really mad
Starting point is 01:14:25 today when I ordered Mediterranean food and I ordered Hulumi cheese and they brought me a Hulumi cheese wrap smothered in liquid mayonnaise to the point where it was oozing out like a biting into a lemon He ordered there was so much liquid
Starting point is 01:14:38 Quote unquote Mediterranean Quote unquote Mediterranean We all know what that means y'all Greek Mm-hmm great yeah BDS baby Ooh not good Yeah Chuck
Starting point is 01:14:49 Big big dukey shit Tel Aviv The Tel Aviv grill Yeah Chuck was horrid No I probably wasn't called bad Let's give him more credit. It was probably called like Happy Dance Factory or something.
Starting point is 01:15:01 It's called Zeus. It's called Zeus. Z-U-Z-S. Z-U-Z-S is how you think you. So it's Polish. It's a Polish restaurant. No, Z-E-U-S. First of all, it's Juge, and that's still Jewish.
Starting point is 01:15:18 Don't you ever accuse me of being Jewish again. I got Hulumi cheese from, don't you ever accuse me of being one. of them again. Don't you ever accuse me to be a Jewish again. I hate them. Don't how many times I have to tell you. Don't you ever accuse me of being Jewish again.
Starting point is 01:15:35 Okay, Jacques just held up a Nazi medal to the camera. I'm not kidding. I did not hold up a Nazi medal. That's insane. Hold it up again, Jack. Jacques is holding up that up. Hold it back up. Show Max.
Starting point is 01:15:49 Oh, hang on. I got a tab back again. Oh, Christ. No. Show Max the medal. That is a Minecraft New Hickey of some sort?
Starting point is 01:16:00 No, go to the other one. Yep. Look at that. That's the poor Maritare or whatever it is. The Blue Cross. That shit's normal.
Starting point is 01:16:07 No, it's not. Because I remember when he bought it and he sent me the page from the website he bought it. I did not say it. The Germans have had an army before World War. Listen, I've been reading a lot
Starting point is 01:16:18 about the guns of August. You guys, I think they might have been stabbed in the back. But I will be doing more. reading later and going back to you with some more trends and thoughts about the Treaty of Versailles
Starting point is 01:16:33 and period. Yeah. Other All right, Jack. What the hell is that? Closing Thoughts, Chuck. Predators 2 is an action movie that will take anyone in for a ride of their lifetime with action, intrigue,
Starting point is 01:16:49 and alien technology. Period. Period. It's basically what it's like to live in China. yeah shut the fuck pretty much feels like the future jock what is your rating jac
Starting point is 01:17:04 10 out of 10 there was not a beat that I didn't love I concur I only give movies I'll give it a 10 out of 10 as well I'm gonna give me period um
Starting point is 01:17:18 the also on the bonus features of the DVD there's a video of all nine predators dancing with Danny Glover in the spaceship. And I'll send that to both of you so you can watch it. Yeah, yeah, I'll send it to both of you. Wait, can you find that damn painting? I couldn't find it.
Starting point is 01:17:38 The one they found in Argentina recently? No. The one of the Rasta Warrior that was on Joel Silver's wall, that he was like, this is what the predator should look like. I'm jockeing off at the moment. I'm joccing off. Yeah. I don't know what that means.
Starting point is 01:17:58 Don't use my name and V. Love you all. Goodbye. Love you. Love you. Goodbye. We'll see you next time on movie Jacques set. Muh.

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